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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 2: just keep stacking wins. Lots to dive into. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with the fun. By the way, we've got a loaded show.

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Speaker 2: David sachs Ai, czar of the new Trump administration, will

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Speaker 2: join us at the bottom of this hour. Multi billionaire

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Speaker 2: venture capital investor, brilliant guy. Lots to talk about with him.

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Speaker 2: He'll be on with us in this hour. Second hour,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk with May Mailman. She's inside of the

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Speaker 2: Trump White House. She's gonna talk about the big blow

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Speaker 2: up that happened in the final hour during the final

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Speaker 2: hour of the show on Friday, when the governor of

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Speaker 2: Maine said she would be suing Donald Trump over men

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Speaker 2: being allowed to continue to play in women's sports, but

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Speaker 2: then also lots of spice surrounding it.

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Speaker 1: May was there.

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Speaker 2: She's going to come on and tell us all about it.

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Speaker 2: Plus there's a viral story that I'm told is not true.

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Speaker 2: She'll talk about in more detail. But some of you

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Speaker 2: may have seen a report that the Philadelphia Eagles had

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Speaker 2: rejected a White House invite. They are the super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 2: You'll remember Trump certainly cheered at the Super Bowl. Many

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Speaker 2: of those people in attendance were Eagle fans. I'm told

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Speaker 2: by the White House that there has not been an

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Speaker 2: official offer extended to the Eagles and that there has

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Speaker 2: been no rejection that that was fake news. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into that maybe a little bit with May and then

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Speaker 2: the new head of the EPA, Lee's Eldon, former congressman

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Speaker 2: from New York, nearly beat Kathy Hokel in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two governor's race. All of that coming in your

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Speaker 2: direction during the course of today's show. But Buck, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I woke up on Sunday morning, rolled over to check

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Speaker 2: and see what the news of the day was, and

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Speaker 2: there was joy in the Twitter streets. MSNBC far left

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Speaker 2: wing moron host Joy Reid fired her show canceled as NBC.

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Speaker 2: The MSNBC panics as no one is watching their network

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Speaker 2: in the wake of Trump's electoral victory in November. And Buck,

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Speaker 2: before we play some of the best moments of Joy Reid.

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Speaker 2: To me, the biggest takeaway, and I'm curious what your

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Speaker 2: takeaway here would be, was in the wake of twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen when Trump came into office. Being anti Trump and

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Speaker 2: a part of the resistance was great for The New

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Speaker 2: York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC,

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Speaker 2: all of their audiences skyrocketed as they bought into the

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Speaker 2: hardcore Trump resistance. But so far as we sit over

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Speaker 2: a month into the Trump era, there is no rush

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Speaker 2: to support. There is no democracy dies in darkness equivalent.

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Speaker 2: The resistance, as you and I have talked about, is

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Speaker 2: actually sad. We watched the resistance march through the streets

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Speaker 2: of DC. The culture appears to have been has shifted,

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Speaker 2: and the business imperatives to be able to make money

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Speaker 2: are vastly different, and that, to me is the underlying

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Speaker 2: foundation of why Joy Reid got fired. Certainly, if there

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Speaker 2: were money to be made, I think MSNBC would have

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Speaker 2: continued to cash the checks. But she's an embarrassment, she's

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Speaker 2: a moron. Her show was not good, and the profitability

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Speaker 2: of that show has declined, which I think is the

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Speaker 2: signature takeaway of the big picture here.

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Speaker 3: You also have the step down of Lester Holt from NBC,

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Speaker 3: I would say reckoning that the Democrat aligned media is

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Speaker 3: who liked Joy Reid and we got to get we

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Speaker 3: got a montage coming here, Oh we need a montage.

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Speaker 3: Even if for somebody who liked Joy Reid or you're

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Speaker 3: an MSNBC watcher, you do, I would think live in

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Speaker 3: reality enough that you can understand that everything they told

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Speaker 3: you that was going to happen did not happen, that

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Speaker 3: all the promises that they made were broken correct, and

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Speaker 3: that apparently they know nothing about American politics, or the

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Speaker 3: American electorate, or the justice system, or the prospects of

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, all of the above. Right if you were

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Speaker 3: relying on these people to tell you what the American

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Speaker 3: future was going to look like, you are wildly disappointed

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Speaker 1: And more than that, I think people.

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Speaker 3: Are seeing their ideology that hasn't been really tested in

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Speaker 3: the public sphere, test in ways, and not just tested mocked.

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Speaker 3: It's being mocked and joy read.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this.

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Speaker 3: You know there's always a little part of me and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you have the same thing, Clay. Do you

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Speaker 3: celebrate when somebody loses a job. She's made millions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: She's not poor. She's going to get a job somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: This isn't celebrating when like the factory closes and guys

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Speaker 3: pay there, Okay, because you know, the libs love it.

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Speaker 3: They celebrate whenever anyone on the right loses their job.

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Speaker 3: But then when someone like Joy Reid loses her show,

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Speaker 3: we're supposed to go, Oh, don't ever celebrate somebody else's lost.

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Speaker 3: She's a multimillionaire. She's going to be taken care of.

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Speaker 3: She'll get paid lots of money to do nothing somewhere else. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's she's going to be fine. That's one thing that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get out there because now we're about

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Speaker 3: to really have some fun and dive into Joy reads.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? Clay Strap it in everybody.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear it. I have not heard

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Speaker 2: this yet. I was waiting to be able to experience

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Speaker 2: it with all of you. This is producer Greg's work, right.

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Speaker 1: Let's give him.

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Speaker 3: Put on a beret. The artiste has gone to work

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Speaker 3: here he pulled it together. He edited over the weekend

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Speaker 4: We do have a fascist ground swell in parts of

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Speaker 4: this country, mainly among white men. He called himself big

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Speaker 4: b a l LS. That's what he calls himself. It

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Speaker 4: was a Nazi era on Twitter. That is back, and

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Speaker 4: Alon's doing it. Twitter now is useless to me. If

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Speaker 4: people like me are leaving, I don't know how Twitter survives.

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Speaker 4: Trump has two to eddies Putin and Andy law Musk

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Speaker 4: a far right dictatorial regime like Hitler's Germany or Franco's

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Speaker 4: Spain or Mussolini's Italy. Vice president Kamala Debbie Harris, She's

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Speaker 4: about to make history. She's about to become the first

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Speaker 4: woman President's an historic, flawlessly run campaign. She had Queen

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Speaker 4: Latifa never endorses anyone. Keep Hitler out the White House,

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Speaker 4: Hitler white House. We keeping them out.

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Speaker 1: Restoring the name.

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Speaker 4: For Bragg sure looks like an attempt to resegregate the

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Speaker 4: military extremist, right wing fascist type government in Florida. It's

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Speaker 4: a right wing fantasy land like disney World, but in hell.

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Speaker 4: Come to Florida, the meatest place on earth. The racist

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Speaker 4: tomahawk chop, the gesture and chant, promoting stereotypes, caricatures, and

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Speaker 4: frankly hatred of Native American people. Sports commentator turned right

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Speaker 4: wing political commentator Clay Travis called for Trump supporters in

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Speaker 4: jury tampering. Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's

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Speaker 3: Rhyme, Oh, you got a shout out there in that montage?

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Speaker 3: What is your favorite of the joy Read isms? I

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Speaker 3: still think the greatest. I mean a lot of you know, Nazis,

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Speaker 3: to me, Kamala ran a flawless campaign because meing Atifa

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Speaker 1: After she lost. That's Harmona, Lisa.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the one that I think her her entire

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Speaker 2: In fact here that is if that was part of

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Speaker 1: Remember Joy Reid during the course.

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Speaker 2: Of Election Night on MSNBC, and let me before we

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Speaker 2: Here is what I would say in general.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen anyone upset that her show was canceled.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that you have the opportunity, the luxury, the privilege

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Speaker 2: a fan of you. This is what's happened with Don Lemon,

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Speaker 2: this is what has happened with Jim Acosta, this is

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Speaker 2: you can continue with them and you'll follow them wherever

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Speaker 2: they go. I like to think, Buck, if one day

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Speaker 2: you or I weren't on this show and we were like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: being fired. There was a mass exultation, and it's because

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Speaker 2: of moronic takes like this, Kamala Harris, whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to say. According to Joy Reid, she really did run

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Speaker 2: a flawless campaign. She got endorsed by Queen Latifa and

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know that there's anyone on

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Speaker 3: Joy reviews it as solidarity with a black female presidential candidate,

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Speaker 3: And she's just going to say that Kamala was awesome

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Speaker 3: it's a good thing that there has finally been a

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Speaker 3: walk away from this. Now there will be other left

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Speaker 3: wing voices that grow in some ways right the oldest

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Speaker 3: what is it, the oldest aphorism? A crisis is an

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Speaker 3: opportunity for people on the left right now we talk

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Speaker 3: about the politicians, for commentators as well. For someone to

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Speaker 3: But we'll see who that is is, because right now

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Speaker 1: Talk about this.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the first thirty days has just been incredible.

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Speaker 5: No, And I you know, I think you're right. This

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Speaker 5: goes back a long time. Elon was politically neutral for

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Speaker 5: the longest time, but he he leaned left or leaned Democrat.

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Speaker 5: I think he voted for Obama, and I think at

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Speaker 5: one point he voted I think he voted for Biden

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Speaker 5: or said he did, and I think that's public knowledge.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the Biden administration did everything possible to

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Speaker 5: alienate him, and it all started where I think at

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the Biden administration, they held an ev

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Speaker 5: summit at the Whitehouse, and you know, Biden didn't invite Elon,

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Speaker 5: who created Tesla, which is by far the most successful

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Speaker 5: electric vehicle company in the world, and is the sole

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Speaker 5: reason that we have an EV revolution and why United

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Speaker 5: States is a player in EV He's as opposed to

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Speaker 5: it all being China or some other country. And not

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Speaker 5: only was he not invited, Biden then goes up there

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Speaker 5: and gives credit to Mary Barraff for creating the EV

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Speaker 5: revolution when you know what she did at GM was

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Speaker 5: a total failure. And that was just pure cronyism for Biden.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that was the whole pattern of the Biden administration,

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Speaker 5: is making life harder for entrepreneurs and then rewarding their

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Speaker 5: supporters and cronies. And you know, that was just the beginning.

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Speaker 5: I got much worse after that. When Elon bought Twitter

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Speaker 5: and restored it to a free speech platform. That's when

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Speaker 5: the left really declared war on him. Let's just be

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Speaker 5: clear about that. I mean, Elon was a darling of

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Speaker 5: the left because again he was responsible for bringing about

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Speaker 5: the EV revolution, which in their view, would help solve

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Speaker 5: climate change. Whether you agree with that or not, that

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Speaker 5: was their view.

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Speaker 1: And it all.

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Speaker 5: Changed once he bought Twitter because he wanted to restore

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Speaker 5: free speech, and that's when they really came after him.

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Speaker 5: That's when you saw Biden say we got to look

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Speaker 5: at the sky, you know, from the White House podium,

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Speaker 5: we need to investigate him. And then they brought a

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Speaker 5: whole raft of ridiculous investigations in lawsuits. Tesla was investigated

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Speaker 5: for building a glass house or something absurd like that.

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Speaker 5: Space X, which has national security applications, was investigated for

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Speaker 5: not hiring enough asylum seekers, which is to say, illegal aliens,

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Speaker 5: which they're not even allowed to do under you know,

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Speaker 5: I TAR, which is a national security law. So you know,

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Speaker 5: the Biden administration did everything they could to alienate Elon

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Speaker 5: and then simultaneously just you know, higher level. This is

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Speaker 5: a feeling that was felt by people by many people

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Speaker 5: in Silicon Valley, like Marc Andreessen, where they felt like

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Speaker 5: the Biden administration was demonizing entrepreneurs and entrepreneurship. And you know,

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Speaker 5: these are all people, I mean in Silicon Valley who

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Speaker 5: started from a more liberal mindset and they gradually got

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Speaker 5: read pilled and moved Republican because frankly, the Democrats became socialists,

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Speaker 5: I mean, they became communists, or at least the faction

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Speaker 5: within the party that represents that hard left was in

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Speaker 5: control of domestic policies. So I think that is not

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Speaker 5: just Elonis. Lots of people got red pilled. But you know,

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Speaker 5: they didn't set out to be you know, they're not

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Speaker 5: They're not like right wingers. They just believe in allowing

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Speaker 5: America to compete, in allowing entrepreneurs to create new businesses. Socially,

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Speaker 5: they tend to be pretty modern or liberal. But but

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Speaker 5: but the Democratic Party just became so hard left that

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Speaker 5: they became toxic to anyone in the center.

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Speaker 2: David, you, I think that's such an interesting analysis. Buck

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Speaker 2: and I were out to dinner with a couple of

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Speaker 2: prominent business executives recently and.

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Speaker 1: They said that, and I know you were a huge

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Speaker 1: part of this.

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Speaker 2: Elon Firing seventy five or eighty percent of Twitter's employees

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Speaker 2: and actually ending up with the far more profitable business

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Speaker 2: was something that tons of managers, tons of owners have

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Speaker 2: thought about doing before. It seems to be the blueprint

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Speaker 2: now for what he's trying to do for fraud and waste.

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Speaker 2: How much fraud and waste do you think, based on

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Speaker 2: what you've seen there is in our government expenditures, And

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Speaker 2: how important was the experience of going through those cuts

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Speaker 2: at Twitter to giving you an idea what to do

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Speaker 2: here with the government.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was there at Twitter for the

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Speaker 5: Twitter transition, and I mean it was really remarkable. So

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Speaker 5: Elon did some really simple things in hindsight that you

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Speaker 5: wonder why they'd never done before. So, you know, in

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Speaker 5: a tech company, engineers are the lifeblood of the company.

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Speaker 5: So Elon did something really simple. He just asked, or

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Speaker 5: he looked at the code repository and just search how

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Speaker 5: many engineers have actually written code, code checked in code

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Speaker 5: in the last several months, and something like only fifty

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Speaker 5: percent of the engineers at Twitter we're even writing code.

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Speaker 5: And you know that's their sole output.

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Speaker 3: So if you're scooping ice cream for a living and

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Speaker 3: you don't scoop any ice cream, that's a bad that's

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Speaker 3: a bad sign.

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Speaker 5: It's very easy to measure this, Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 5: very The outpoint is very easily measured. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I saw somebody, you know, I saw a former Twitter

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Speaker 5: employee on MSNBC complaining about this how DRACONI and Elon

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Speaker 5: was because she was required to, you know, do a

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Speaker 5: test to prove that she could code. Well. Sorry, the

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Speaker 5: reason why that happened is because half the Twitter employees

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Speaker 5: weren't checking in code. So then instead of just firing them,

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Speaker 5: Elon gave them a chance to complete a code exercise

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Speaker 5: to prove they actually could code. And if you know,

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Speaker 5: and if they weren't willing to prove that they could

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Speaker 5: code and they hadn't actually checked in code, they got fired.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just that they weren't doing the job

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Speaker 5: and it wasn't clear that they were capable of doing

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Speaker 5: the job.

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Speaker 3: David, we're going to be coming into a heart break

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Speaker 3: here in a second, So I just wanted to I

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Speaker 3: want to ask you one question that's crypto.

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Speaker 1: Over later we're speaking to David Sachs.

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Speaker 3: The crypto and ais are for the White House and

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Speaker 3: venture capitalists, for a lot of people who don't owin

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Speaker 3: own bitcoin and aren't necessarily involved in crypto. I think

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Speaker 3: the question is, and I'll just give you, sorry a

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Speaker 3: minute to explain this, or so, why does crypto matter

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Speaker 3: for everyone, for the country, for the economy, for the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: What is it that matters about this?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think crypto represents a new type of digital platform.

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Speaker 5: But for finance or for money, there's a few different

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Speaker 5: components to it. You got bitcoin, which is a store

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Speaker 5: of value. You've got stable coins for cerptenicy, a new

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Speaker 5: kind of payment system, and then you've got just blockchains

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Speaker 5: in general on which you can build new kinds of applications.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's still very early to say what

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Speaker 5: the innovation is going to be that comes from this,

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Speaker 5: but it's a burgeoning area. It's a new kind of

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Speaker 5: you call it decentralized computing platform, and new kinds of

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Speaker 5: financial applications can be written on it. And so it's

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Speaker 5: just it's because it is, I think, a really interesting

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Speaker 5: area of software. You just want that innovation happening in

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Speaker 5: the United States. And I think that what the Biden

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Speaker 5: administration was doing. They just literally declared war on crypto,

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Speaker 5: and they were doing everything in their power to kill

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Speaker 5: the industry, and they were driving all the entrepreneurship offshore.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I think what we want to do

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Speaker 5: is allow the innovation to happen here in America so

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Speaker 5: that it's the United States that ultimately benefits from these

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Speaker 5: startups and the innovation that they will bring. And there's

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Speaker 5: just no reason to kill this thing in the cradle.

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Speaker 5: Consumer protection can be achieved by having sensible rules around

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Speaker 5: what people are able to do. But keep in mind

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Speaker 5: that the biggest fraud in the history of crypto, which

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Speaker 5: was FTX, was offshore in the Bahamas. And that's what

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Speaker 5: happens when you drive you know these companies offshore, is

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Speaker 5: that it's hard to know the good ones the bad ones,

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Speaker 5: and so so part of the reason why I think

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Speaker 5: we want to allow crypto t happen in the US

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Speaker 5: and to sort of to allow the entrepreneurs to do

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Speaker 5: things onshore is that it makes it easier for them

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Speaker 5: to be supervised by regulators so that we can help

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Speaker 5: felt good ones from the bad ones.

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Speaker 3: David Sachs, Crypto and AIS are for the Trump White House,

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna need you to come back and talk

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Speaker 3: more about the future and amazing things if you would

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Speaker 3: make the time for us. So thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for coming on today.

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Speaker 5: Anytime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Team will be right back.

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Speaker 3: We are excited to be joined for the first time

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Speaker 3: today from the White House by May Mailman, Deputy Assistant

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Speaker 3: to the President and Senior Policies Strategist.

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Speaker 1: May welcome to Clay and Buck. Thanks thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: So we saw something get a lot of attention over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. Here a little exchange between the leader of

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Speaker 3: the free world, number forty seven, Donald J. Trump, President

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Speaker 3: of United States, and the governor of Maine. We wanted

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Speaker 3: everybody to hear how this exchange went May and then

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Speaker 3: have your reaction to it and what we should expect

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Speaker 3: is going to come from it.

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Speaker 1: Played the clip.

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Speaker 7: The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way, that's good.

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Speaker 7: But I understand Maine is the main here. The governor

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Speaker 7: of Maine here, are you not going to comply with it?

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Speaker 7: I'm complying with the state federal laws. Well we are

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Speaker 7: the federal law. Well you better do it. You better

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Speaker 7: do it because you're not going to get any federal

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Speaker 7: funding at all if you don't. And by the way,

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Speaker 7: your population, even though it's somewhat liberal orlo, I did

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Speaker 7: very well there. Your population doesn't want men playing in

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Speaker 7: women's sports. So you bet you better comply because otherwise

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Speaker 7: you're not getting any federal funding. See you call every

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Speaker 7: state good, I'll see you, and could I look forward

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Speaker 7: to that. That should be a really easy one. And

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Speaker 7: enjoy your life after, governor, because I don't think you'll

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Speaker 7: be in elected politics.

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Speaker 3: President Trump not messing around there. May and he's not

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Speaker 3: a man who's afraid of court either. What's going on here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Main's governor is an idiot, I think is

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Speaker 6: really how you can describe that, which is she wants

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Speaker 6: to lose all of her federal funding in order to

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Speaker 6: make sure that men win women's pole vaulting and can

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Speaker 6: watch women shower. Like, that's what this is about. And

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Speaker 6: guess what when she says she's going to comply with

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Speaker 6: federal law, great, I've got a good one for her.

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Speaker 6: It's called Title nine. And Title nine requires that women

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Speaker 6: be given equal opportunities and education programs. Women cannot be

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Speaker 6: given equal opportunities and education programs if they can't have

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Speaker 6: women's sports, if you can only give it, here's your

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Speaker 6: women's sports. Oh, also it has men in it, so

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Speaker 6: you're not giving women's sports at all, and you don't

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Speaker 6: make men have to face unfair competition, only the women,

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Speaker 6: and so that's not equal opportunity. And also by saying

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Speaker 6: women cannot have privacy, dignity, and the women who you've

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Speaker 6: talked to that have had to face this, their grades suffer,

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Speaker 6: they get stomach ulcers, they don't use the bathroom, they

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Speaker 6: don't use the locker rooms. Paul Scanlon at the University

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Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania would run home after swimming completely soaking wet

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Speaker 6: in Pennsylvania in winter. I mean, it's abusive to women,

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Speaker 6: and that's what Main's governor would like to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to hit you with some facts, because

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Speaker 2: I went on when this broke on Friday. Seventy nine

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Speaker 2: percent of Americans agree with President Trump here that men

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be competing in women's sports. That's according to the

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Speaker 2: New York Times. Ninety four percent of Republicans sixty seven

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Speaker 2: percent though of Democrats as well. May in addition to

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Speaker 2: the legality that you just laid out, I think you're

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Speaker 2: a Harvard walgrad a kind of an impressive thing. But also,

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Speaker 2: isn't the sheer public support for Trump in a state

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Speaker 2: that was, as he said, relatively close fifty two forty

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Speaker 2: five was how that came down closely in Maine against

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Speaker 2: Kamala and Trump won one of the electoral votes there.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy that Maine's governor and Democrats in general

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Speaker 2: would pick this as the battleground based on what the

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Speaker 2: general public thinks of this issue.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, on one hand, I'm so glad they are because

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Speaker 6: it like it solidifies their lack of existence as a

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Speaker 6: serious political party. And on the other it's really sad

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Speaker 6: because you know, it's it's harming women. But after the

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Speaker 6: President Trump won the election, I think there was some

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Speaker 6: in the Democrat parties, Oh, you know, we need to

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Speaker 6: be normal, like let's try and be a little bit

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Speaker 6: more normal. And I said, no, don't. I don't think

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Speaker 6: they're going to be more normal because they can't. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they're so committed to this stuff. The first page of

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Speaker 6: their platform when they did their Democratic National Convention was

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Speaker 6: a land acknowledgment saying they weren't really in Chicago, they

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Speaker 6: were like in the ancestral homelands of the Okee Shanabi tribe.

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Speaker 6: That's where the Democrat Party is. And so of course

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Speaker 6: they are doubling and tripling down on women not having

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Speaker 6: a right to women's sports. And I don't exactly know

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Speaker 6: what's going to break them of this, but it's not

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Speaker 6: going to be Seth Moulton from Massachusetts say hey, hey,

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Speaker 6: can we be a little bit more normal because the

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Speaker 6: core of the party, the core of the party really

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Speaker 6: does believe this stuff. It's not like it's not what

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Speaker 6: the American public believes, but they believe it in their

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Speaker 6: core that it is a good, it's a national good

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Speaker 6: to have men and women's sports.

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Speaker 3: We're speaking of May Mailman, Deputy Assistant to the President

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Speaker 3: and Senior Policy Strategy. She's calling us from the White

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Speaker 3: House today and May, I don't know if you saw this,

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Speaker 3: but it goes to what you're talking about. There was

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Speaker 3: a clip in exchange between I think it was one

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Speaker 3: of the Pods Save guys, you know, those left wing

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Speaker 3: Obama era guys, and Bill Maher.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely Bill Maher.

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Speaker 3: So it's a Democrat and Bill Maher and he says, essentially,

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Speaker 3: if you guys don't stop with this gender transition for

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Speaker 3: minors stuff, you're going to lose every election for the

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Speaker 3: foreseeable future. And what's fascinating is the Democrat again I

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Speaker 3: forget the guy's name, is like horrified by this idea

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Speaker 3: and thinks, oh no, we have to double and triple

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Speaker 3: down on gender transitions for miners.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the thing. So Main's governor is no leader,

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Speaker 6: She is a follower and she is following her party.

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Speaker 6: And so when Letitia James says, all of the hospitals

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Speaker 6: in New York are going to continue to mutilate miners,

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Speaker 6: mutilate and castrate miners. When California says this, when Minnesota

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Speaker 6: says this, you know, Janet Mills just wants to be

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Speaker 6: part of the cool kids club. But it's it's pretty

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Speaker 6: pathetic because the Democrat Party doesn't actually have a leader,

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Speaker 6: and so all of these people who are trying to

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Speaker 6: be woke, like who are you? Who are you showing

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Speaker 6: off for Chuck Schumer? I mean, who's the leader of

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Speaker 6: the Democratic Party AOC. Who's actually making decisions? There's nobody,

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Speaker 6: and so that's who's making decisions. It's like the liberal

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Speaker 6: professors on Blue Sky. It's like the people who used

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Speaker 6: to censor us on Twitter. That's who's leading the Democratic

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Speaker 6: Party is nobody. It's a mob. It's a mob of

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Speaker 6: woke idiots who are over educated sitting in their parents' basement.

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Speaker 6: And so that's a real problem that the Democrats have

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Speaker 6: to respond to. It's the pod save guys getting everybody

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Speaker 6: worked up. But that victim culture of oh my god,

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Speaker 6: this is terrible, this is terrible. I'm you know, we

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Speaker 6: need more men and women's sports. It is a lack

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Speaker 6: of leadership in the Democrat Party, and I don't actually

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Speaker 6: see a leader emerging who's normal.

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Speaker 1: We're talking.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate her calling in from the White House right now,

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Speaker 2: a mailman. You just were talking about the experience on Friday.

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Speaker 1: There is a.

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Speaker 2: Report that I believe it was the chief of staff

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Speaker 2: or one of the main governor's associates that was outraged

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Speaker 2: by the president's interaction with the main governor. Did you

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Speaker 2: see that. I'm sure you saw the reporting on it.

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Speaker 2: What was the vibe in the room after the interaction, like.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so this is hilarious but also so telling. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: this the governor's meeting, which was on Friday, forty six governors.

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Speaker 6: This is a bipartisan event. We're talking about a super

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Speaker 6: by part is an issue which is no men in

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Speaker 6: women's sports. And of course then the governor remains stands

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Speaker 6: up and says I'm going to ensue you basically, and yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was tense in the room. Is crazy, I mean,

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Speaker 6: the president has invited you into his home and here

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Speaker 6: you are acting in transigent and also on such an

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Speaker 6: unpopular issue. So the next morning at nine am, the

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Speaker 6: chiefs of staff come in to ask any questions that

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Speaker 6: they'd like to the White House staff and one of

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Speaker 6: the White House staffers, great guy, Alex Meyer, really nice kid,

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Speaker 6: and Maine the main chief of staff comes up and says,

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Speaker 6: you know, I hate you. Basically I want to do

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Speaker 6: all this women's sports and we said no, you've got

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Speaker 6: to you got to save women's sports for women, and

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Speaker 6: he said f u u asshole and stormed out of

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Speaker 6: the room. So this is this is the childish behavior

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Speaker 6: of the state of Maine is screaming that you're an

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Speaker 6: a hole to the head of inter governmental affairs at

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Speaker 6: the White House and marching out.

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Speaker 1: So this is crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you sharing this story because I've I've heard

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Speaker 2: it happened. But I mean for the governor of Maine. Again,

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Speaker 2: this is a state that Trump won an electoral vote from,

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Speaker 2: and I would imagine an overwhelming number because we took

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Speaker 2: calls on Friday from Maine residents actually agree with the

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Speaker 2: President in here. That's kind of a crazy thing for

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Speaker 2: the chief of staff to be doing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: from any state in the White House, I think, but

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Speaker 2: to react like this to something that the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 2: of your citizens would support has to be kind of staggering.

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Speaker 1: Even to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a total activist. So he's a

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Speaker 6: former Planned Parenthood staffer. Just activism is very much in

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Speaker 6: his DNA and Alex Meyer and the White House said

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Speaker 6: that this guy had his full speech prepared. He wanted

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Speaker 6: to make a name for himself, and so, you know what,

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Speaker 6: you do have a name for yourself. Now you're known

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Speaker 6: as an unhinged lunatic who's screaming at random White House staffers.

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Speaker 6: But you know who wasn't surprised was the Republicans in

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Speaker 6: the state of Maine who came up right after this

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Speaker 6: story broke and said, We've been dealing with this guy forever.

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Speaker 6: So this chief of staff for the State of Maine

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Speaker 6: basically treats himself as a mini governor and has been

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Speaker 6: lording over all the people of Maine, being totally impossible

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Speaker 6: to work with. And apparently even after he had stormed

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Speaker 6: out of the room, which was totally for theatrics, he

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Speaker 6: still really needed to stay in the room because he

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Speaker 6: wanted to touch base with people. He might have had

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Speaker 6: some more questions, and so he actually just lurked outside

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Speaker 6: the room. So he stormed off, and instead of going anywhere,

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Speaker 6: he just stayed out like, right outside.

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Speaker 3: The room, may did you have any idea when you

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Speaker 3: signed up to work in this White House that the

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Speaker 3: first sixty days or first thirty days rather going on

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Speaker 3: sixty now was going to be just such a blizzard

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Speaker 3: of activity.

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Speaker 6: So I did and I didn't. So I was here

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Speaker 6: all four years last time, and it was busy. The

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Speaker 6: first one hundred days were busy, but it was nothing

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Speaker 6: like this. And I didn't do transition during Trump one

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Speaker 6: point zero, but I did transition this time. And so

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Speaker 6: I can tell you I kind of knew because we

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Speaker 6: were preparing all the executive orders, and I could tell

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Speaker 6: it was going to be busy. But one thing that

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Speaker 6: I didn't anticipate is the first time we'd sign a

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Speaker 6: lot of things, they would say a lot of words

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Speaker 6: and then it would be like pulling teeth trying to

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Speaker 6: get people actually do them, and there was a lot

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Speaker 6: of disagreement. And now we'll sign something and people implement

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Speaker 6: them way more aggressively than I even wrote them. I'm like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 6: you didn't need to do it that. The implementation has

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Speaker 6: been night and day different. So it keeps us all

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Speaker 6: on our toes. It's a lot of work, but I

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Speaker 6: think part of it is everybody's inspired, very inspirational by

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Speaker 6: the last four years of basically crisis in this country,

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Speaker 6: and so people are working at a different pace.

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Speaker 2: May, we'll have you on again soon. Love you with

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Speaker 2: the insider stories here. Keep fighting the good fight and

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 6: All right, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's May Melman and Buck.

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Speaker 2: That story wow, I mean the main chief of staff

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Speaker 2: losing his mind will open up phone lines. We got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of things still coming your way, Lee Zelden

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Speaker 2: joined now by the new head of the EPA. He

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Speaker 2: is Lee Zelden, and Lee, we appreciate the time. We

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Speaker 2: know you've been diving into how the money is being

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Speaker 2: spent at the EPA, and you are already uncovering some

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Speaker 2: frankly buried secrets that don't have a lot to do

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Speaker 2: with the environment. Or protection. Now, what can you tell

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Speaker 2: us about what you found so far?

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Speaker 8: It's great to be with you guys. Yes, tens of

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Speaker 8: billions of dollars. When I was going through my Senate

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Speaker 8: confirmation process, there was this video that came out. I'm

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Speaker 8: sure both of you guys saw where the Biden EPA

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Speaker 8: political appointee, was talking about how they were throwing gold

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Speaker 8: bars off the Titanic. Says that multiple times in the video,

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Speaker 8: talks about how he's trying to that they are trying

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Speaker 8: to get themselves jobs at the recipient NGOs and the

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Speaker 8: senators I was meeting with at the time were asking

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Speaker 8: for me to commit which was a pretty easy commitment

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Speaker 8: for me to make that once I was confirmed, I

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Speaker 8: would come in and try to find these gold bars. Well,

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Speaker 8: it didn't take us much time to start finding all

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Speaker 8: sorts of waste and abuse. I canceled a fifty million

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Speaker 8: dollar grant to the Climate Justice Alliance. They say that

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Speaker 8: climate justice runs through a free Palestine. Canceled about ninety

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Speaker 8: grants working with those towards DEI and and environmental justice.

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Speaker 8: That's totaling over one hundred and twenty five hundred and

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Speaker 8: twenty seven million dollars cancel over a million dollars worth

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Speaker 8: of media subscriptions where the agency was getting ripped off

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Speaker 8: having to pay too much. And the biggest one was

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Speaker 8: a twenty billion dollar pot of money parked at a

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Speaker 8: bank outside of government, a rush job at the end

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Speaker 8: of the Biden administration to offload tens of billions of dollars,

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Speaker 8: all going to eight passed through NGOs, one of which

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Speaker 8: was Stacy Abrams's NGO, which received two billion dollars even

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Speaker 8: though they only received one hundred dollars. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 8: five billion dollars went to the former employer of the

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Speaker 8: director of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund. And a story

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Speaker 8: out this morning of somebody who was involved in the

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Speaker 8: council to design this this plan and this pot of

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Speaker 8: money got twenty million dollars for their organization that they

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Speaker 8: work at, even though that organization over the last few

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Speaker 8: years only raised in total just over two million. So

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Speaker 8: there's a lot there with regards to that pot of

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Speaker 8: twenty billion dollars. We're not done. It's it's wild how

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Speaker 8: much waste we've bydeed. And I'll just give you one more.

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Speaker 8: There was one hundred and sixty million dollars sent to

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Speaker 8: a Canadian electric vehicle school bus company as part of

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Speaker 8: the clean school Bus program. They then declared bankruptcy. They

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Speaker 8: still haven't delivered on ninety five million dollars worth of

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Speaker 8: school buses for fifty five school districts. Yes by an,

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Speaker 8: EPA gave them all one hundred and sixty million dollars

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Speaker 8: up front, and then they declared bankruptcy without performing on

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Speaker 8: most of the contract. We are going to end the

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Speaker 8: waste and abuse at the EPA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mister administrator, I was gonna say, as the sector

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Speaker 3: of an administrator of the EPA, lee explain how this works

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Speaker 3: in just the most simple layman's terms, because we're hearing

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Speaker 3: this stuff. So the EPA gives out grant millions and

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars to whatever organization some people in the

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Speaker 3: EPA decide should get that money to do whatever, Like,

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Speaker 3: how does that actually go?

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Speaker 1: And what kind of oversight is there on this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're finding this this obvious abuse and fraud.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just wondering, how is the process. Is it

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Speaker 3: really just as simple as the EPA says, Oh, we

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Speaker 3: like this climate change group of lunatics, We're going to

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Speaker 3: give them, you know, fifty million bucks.

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Speaker 8: That's pretty much how it worked out. And that's a

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Speaker 8: lot of self dealing, a lot of conflicts of interest,

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Speaker 8: and it's also a lie to the American public when

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Speaker 8: you talk about terms like environmental justice or climate change

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Speaker 8: and you define them in a way that appeals to

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Speaker 8: the masses. Like, for example, with environmental justice, you say

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Speaker 8: that there's some community that has been left behind and

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Speaker 8: they need assistance to deal with this pressing environmental issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: there are a lot of people, conservatives, monarchs, liberals say like,

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Speaker 8: oh wow, this community is in need. They don't have

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Speaker 8: access to clean airline or water. What can we do

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Speaker 8: to assist, But here's the problem. In the name of

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Speaker 8: environmental justice, they'll then get fifty million dollars to an

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Speaker 8: organization as a left wing advocacy group that's talking about

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Speaker 8: how climate justice runs through gaza. They'll talk about climate

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Speaker 8: change in a way that appeals to the masses, and

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Speaker 8: then in the name of climate change, they'll advance policies

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Speaker 8: that would bankrupt our country if we did everything. It

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Speaker 8: will raise the rates for energy costs, it will eliminate

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Speaker 8: choice to the point where the people who get hurt

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Speaker 8: the most of the ones who can least afford it.

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Speaker 8: The President has been outspoken on this. His words have

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Speaker 8: been criticized when he's used the term climate change hoax.

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Speaker 8: What he's been talking about, I've heard him mentioned a

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Speaker 8: few times where it was in my presence. When I've

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Speaker 8: heard him talk about it, he's talking about how there

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Speaker 8: are people who said that the world was imminently about

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Speaker 8: to end. You know, this was a few years ago.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure both of you guys remember this, that we're

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Speaker 8: just a few years away from the end of time,

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Speaker 8: and that we had to pass this green new deal

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Speaker 8: that would cost tens of trillions of dollars if we

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Speaker 8: did everything in this plan, and in the name of

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Speaker 8: climate change, there's this willingness to cause extreme economic pain

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Speaker 8: for the people to at least afford it, and it's

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Speaker 8: wrong and he wants to stop that, and he's.

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Speaker 1: Right, Lee, so much is changing.

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Speaker 2: It feels like in terms of the president's just endorsing

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Speaker 2: basic common sense and you're talking about fraud and abuse

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Speaker 2: in the EPA. You ran for governor against Kathy Hochel.

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Speaker 2: One of the areas that seems to be moving most

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Speaker 2: aggressively towards sanity, I would say, is the New York

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Speaker 2: New Jersey area. What do you think that the first

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Speaker 2: thirty days has done to advance that ball moving more

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Speaker 2: and more towards sanity. We know New York, for instance,

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Speaker 2: was more competitive than Texas or California were in the

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Speaker 2: national election, which stuns people. And the Trump team feels

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Speaker 2: like if they'd had a little bit more money, they

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Speaker 2: could have flipped New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: What's really going on here?

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing as a guy who's been in

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Speaker 2: politics for a while and is now part of this administration.

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Speaker 8: Top issues for Americans of all walks of life are

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Speaker 8: related to the economy and crime and public safety. They

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Speaker 8: care about the illegal immigration at the border, and President

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Speaker 8: Trump in his first month in office has been working

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Speaker 8: to make tremendous progress on all of that. And we

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Speaker 8: see it with the efforts of ice in the Department

991
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Speaker 8: of Homeland Security, and he didn't waste any time. It

992
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Speaker 8: was something that started on day one. If you are

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Speaker 8: illegally in the country, and you're the worst of the worst,

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Speaker 8: we need to be doing everything in our power to

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Speaker 8: get you out of the country and making sure that

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Speaker 8: we are actually securing our border. And we're sending a

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Speaker 8: message to those who haven't come yet, they might have

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Speaker 8: been on their way to come illegally into the country,

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Speaker 8: that there's a process and if you want to break

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Speaker 8: the law, you're not welcome here. And that message, I

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Speaker 8: think goes a long way inside of some of these

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Speaker 8: cities where people have experienced the secondary effects of these policies,

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Speaker 8: impacts on crime, budgets, healthcare, education, housing, and more. And

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Speaker 8: that progress is something that I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: Americans are saying, thank God. On another front, on the

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Speaker 8: energy front, President Trump just signed his executive order for

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Speaker 8: National Energy Dominance Council, which I'm serving on along with

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Speaker 8: a secretary right at Department of Energy and Doug Bergham

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Speaker 8: at the Department of Interior. And there's a big pipeline

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Speaker 8: project called Constitution Pipeline that would transport natural gas across

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Speaker 8: many states in the Northeast. And if you're a New

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Speaker 8: Yorker where they ban the safe extraction of natural gas,

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Speaker 8: where they are on the pace towards banning the sale

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Speaker 8: of gas power vehicles, where they do not allow gas

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Speaker 8: hookups to new construction, and they are talking about offshore

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Speaker 8: wind as if that is the replacement for baseload energy

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Speaker 8: closing indiandpoint not getting new nuclear on site opportunities to

1018
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Speaker 8: have more AI data centers, but those require energy to

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Speaker 8: It's just night and day when you look at where

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Speaker 8: we were not that long ago and where we are

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Speaker 8: since President Trump was sworn into office. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 8: We're not a month in saying our work is done

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Speaker 8: here and now we're going to start coasting. We're just

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Speaker 8: getting started. This is just the beginning of what I

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Speaker 8: believe too is a Golden age age of American success.

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Speaker 8: Just like President Trump talks about.

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Speaker 3: Mister administrator, I want to ask you about that. To

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Speaker 3: close us out here, which is right now we've seen

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Speaker 3: whether it's what you're doing at the EPA and obviously

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Speaker 3: DOGE government wide under President Trump's approval, is getting rid

1031
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Speaker 3: of the waste, right, the waste is bad. What are

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Speaker 3: the EPA priorities under this Trump administration that are action

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Speaker 3: for the environment or that are things that actually touch

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Speaker 3: on what the mission of your agency is supposed to

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Speaker 3: be other than not paying a lot of money to

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Speaker 3: left wing climate lunatics, Like, what are some of the

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Speaker 3: things you're going to try to get done as EPA administrator.

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Speaker 3: As long as you're in that role that Trump wants

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Speaker 3: you to pursue.

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Speaker 8: Love that question. And President Trump wants clean air, land,

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Speaker 8: and water for all Americans. The core mission of EPA

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Speaker 8: is protecting human health and the environment. Right now, we

1043
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Speaker 8: are finishing up our Phase one hazardous material removal. It

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Speaker 8: was a thirty day timeline in Los Angeles after the wildfires.

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Speaker 8: President Trump set a bold deadline. But we have over

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Speaker 8: fifteen hundred workers on the ground to be able to

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Speaker 8: crush that job. I was just in Flint, Michigan last week.

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Speaker 8: I've been in East Palacine, Ohio with our great new

1049
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Speaker 8: Vice president, western North Carolina with that hurricane response. We

1050
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Speaker 8: just got a mission assignment with the Kentucky flooding. There

1051
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Speaker 8: is so much that we are doing right now all

1052
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Speaker 8: across this country to ensure that we have clean Atlanta water.

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Speaker 8: Like President Trump wants us to set out for. Our

1054
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Speaker 8: five pillared initiative is called powering the Great American Comeback.

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Speaker 8: We're just talking just now about Pillar one. We also

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Speaker 8: want to help unleash energy dominance, pursue permitting reform, bring

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Speaker 8: back more American auto jobs, and ensure the United States

1058
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Speaker 8: of America is the AI capital of the world. There

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Speaker 8: are important priorities of this president. There are key statutory

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Speaker 8: obligations from Congress like the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act,

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Speaker 8: Safe Drinking Water Act, Toxic Substance Chemicals Act. We're going

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Speaker 8: to do our job exceptionally. We're going to follow our

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Speaker 8: obligations under the law. We were going to respect the

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Speaker 8: rule of law, and we are going to embrace cooperative

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Speaker 8: federalism to work with states across this country.

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Speaker 3: EPA Administrator Zelden, thank you so much, sir, and please

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Speaker 3: as you continue on with these missions, we'd love to

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