WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Gina Yashere

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Questo, your host. We have Team Supreme with us

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<v Speaker 2>right of them. Now, Now what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Steve? I never go to you first. How's your life?

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<v Speaker 1>That's how your life is? Is that a word? What

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Everything's great, man, New York City. We're opening up,

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<v Speaker 1>got a full audience, talent show. Everything feels good. Mentally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a wreck. Thanks for asking. Let's me okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find out why you Maybe you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>reading from our guest today that yeah, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Fan Tikolo is also here with us. What's going on, bro?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, Bro, I'm good Man down twenty three pounds, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that louderday I usually am.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll try.

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<v Speaker 1>Was all right if she couldn't. I appreciate the enthusiasm. No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you inspired me. Man, that's what's up? Man, That is

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Because counting. Yeah, I was about to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm the king of like you know, doing zero

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred on the auto bond and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you just gotta do that like that last thirty you

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<v Speaker 1>start laxing off.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, right now I'm drinking and eating dandylions and

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<v Speaker 2>other eat those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yos are so bits and horrible, but you do eat

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<v Speaker 4>them too, Jina. I tried. I tried.

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<v Speaker 5>They make wine out of dandelions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do two weeks of this dandylion juice that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing, that's that I could probably drop like forty

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<v Speaker 2>pounds everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just trying to get to Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>will to live exactly, all right? Last cool, She's rather

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<v Speaker 1>disgusted by.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm excited. I'm excited to have Gina or I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 6>Happy tunesday to you, Gena. You pay to post the

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<v Speaker 6>video yet.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm late.

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<v Speaker 4>Today on back to back zoom meeting today, I've not

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<v Speaker 4>had a chance to do my tunes on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So that leads to our guests. Our guest

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<v Speaker 1>today hails.

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<v Speaker 2>From my hometown of London, England. I never I never

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<v Speaker 2>passed of a opportunity to speak on my little three

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<v Speaker 2>years in London, and I just claim it like it's

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<v Speaker 2>been my my, my, my city of birth. She is

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<v Speaker 2>a raw and hilarious British comedian with uh a Nigerian lineage,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't too far from my people's in Benin. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll clean next door neighbor. She's also in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to being a hilarious comedian, she's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>co creators of the CBS smash Bob Hart's Abashola. I

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<v Speaker 2>always thought it was Bob Loves the Apashola, but of

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<v Speaker 2>course it's Bob right exactly. And if you've seen her work,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that her life is an absolute open book.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, her memoir, penned during the pandemic, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>is titled cock Candate, which cock co. I was hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that cock cat candidate. Forgive me, yes, no, this ain't

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<v Speaker 2>on video, so we gotta still no cat candidate, which yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hear for the lefties in the house. I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>a lefty, so we special.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>She shares her life and her experiences and her relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with her family, the total open book. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 2>please welcome to quest Love Supreme Gina yash I.

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<v Speaker 4>Hope perfect, thank you. I was waiting, I was waiting

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<v Speaker 4>with breath for the name.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's easy, You're you're, You're hooray with

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<v Speaker 1>a yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're a comedian, hooray.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, I'm stretching that, but everyone has done very

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<v Speaker 2>different variations of how to pronounce your last name.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, I get your share a lot. I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Nigerian. Yes, you almost have to shout my name.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, aa, Okay, I get it now.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you're here because you know I've been

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a fan of your work. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen all all three of your specials, well three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half specials on Netflix at least, very familiar with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I never We've never gotten a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to talk or I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen you. I've walked past you on planes and.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone hi, oh so we we We've been okay, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Flame once tight and I didn't want to make a

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<v Speaker 4>big deal. You should have said something inconspicuous like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to No.

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<v Speaker 2>I call that a Tuesday me and conspicuous. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>so you were okay, So I'm I'm glad you're here

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<v Speaker 2>simply because knowing how open you are about uh, your

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<v Speaker 2>life living in London and growing up there, and your experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course as an outsider with me, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to see those things. And of course also in

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic taking a crash course on Small Acts.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Steve McQueen's series, I was like, Wow, did

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<v Speaker 2>I did I ever live in London? Because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize that these experiences were going on over there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like mine was slightly different because we were just a

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<v Speaker 2>band trying to get our next gig, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we very rarely did we get to truly like mingle

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<v Speaker 2>with people that didn't have to deal with like work

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<v Speaker 2>or interviews or that sort of thing. So hey, talk

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me about your experiences living in London. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that everything that you speak on in your

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<v Speaker 2>life is true.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was born in London, East London, bethnal Green.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a Cockney by birth, like proper okay, geezer geezer.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was born in East London. I'm a child

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<v Speaker 4>of the seventies, child the seventies and eighties, and England

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<v Speaker 4>was super racist when my parents came to England in

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<v Speaker 4>the sixties, super racist. That's when they had you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when people used to put signs on their doors. No dogs,

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<v Speaker 4>no blacks, no Irish. So when you're going to rent

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<v Speaker 4>a place, you know you don't you don't even need

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<v Speaker 4>to bother ring that doorbell if it's got that sign

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<v Speaker 4>on the door. So this is what my mum and

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<v Speaker 4>dad faced in England in the sixties it was openly racist,

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<v Speaker 4>and seventies and eighties not much different. This was the

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<v Speaker 4>time when the National Front were prevalent. National Front was

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<v Speaker 4>very far right organization in England. They tried to sort

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<v Speaker 4>of style themselves a political party, but they were just

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of thugs and their graffiti was ubiquitous. It

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<v Speaker 4>was all over London f n F n F and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember being changed and spot by skin heads a

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<v Speaker 4>lot when I was a kid, like eight years old.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember eight years old being spat on by skinhead.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember me and my mum walking down the street

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<v Speaker 4>and people shouting fits out the cars and swerving into

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<v Speaker 4>puddles and splashing us. So that was London. That was

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<v Speaker 4>the Americans view of the British being so genteel and polite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely now what we know.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, when I went to London, and that's how your

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<v Speaker 3>niggas eating beans for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>I understood how y'all used to rule the world. That's no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Had to eat beans, is supposed pudding beans on toast

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<v Speaker 4>is the best thing on that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some savage ship.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you Are you really about to say that is

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<v Speaker 6>English food better than Nigerian food?

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<v Speaker 4>Food is the best? Come on right, come on now?

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<v Speaker 4>Everything came from us night? Are you watching high on honk?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that you ride for all English things

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<v Speaker 2>like marrowmite sandwiches and.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate mam no being toast. Yes, bubbs and mash mash.

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<v Speaker 4>I love a bit of bangers and mash. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>feed it, but some of it not. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>do the black pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask.

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<v Speaker 4>Audience, latinous pig blood Philly close.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes, wait time out.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't wait all all these years that I've been having.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'll usually have the black pudding.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll serve that when we're on like a fairy coming

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<v Speaker 2>from like Europe headed to the UK, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>have like black pudding as breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me there's blood in that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's made from pigs blood.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that anyway, You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a comic moment out this, Like have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>how much I weigh? What do you think I'm being?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Just talk about drinking dandelion juice. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>From the chops are delicious. It's blood. Just the blood. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>black pudding, it's made from blood. It's close.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we were explaining earlier that you know in America,

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<v Speaker 2>I think like the beans, the beans that are source

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<v Speaker 2>associated with pork and beans or hot dogs and porking

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<v Speaker 2>beans are kind of an afternoon evening dish, whereas in

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<v Speaker 2>England and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>A breakfast breakfast bean eggs and beans, chips, eggs, beans, eggs, beans, sausages,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a proper breakfast. When I first came to America

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, where's the beans? Where's the beans?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, Mexico doesn't Mexico does it in l A.

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<v Speaker 6>But it tastes way better. I think probably, yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't got that. When Gina Yashid, I can't. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't right the bankers and mass I can do the

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<v Speaker 3>bankers of mass I could.

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<v Speaker 4>Put the beans on trumpet makes the difference. God, beans

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<v Speaker 4>have no idea, no don't know, don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Gina, I'm gonna tell you this much. I miss I

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<v Speaker 2>miss touring so much. I'm actually I'm actually gonna side

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<v Speaker 2>on your your your side of the fence this time around.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally I'd be with them.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Wait, can I ask the question though, because even

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<v Speaker 6>though Gina is born and raised in London, her mother

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<v Speaker 6>is not, and so I must think that your mother

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<v Speaker 6>does not feel the same way about this English food.

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<v Speaker 5>And on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Back of that question, can you also break down like

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<v Speaker 6>how dope and royal of a situation your mother came

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<v Speaker 6>to to come and they came to London and it

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<v Speaker 6>was a flip of the switch.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, For one, my mom loves a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>bait beans. Don't even knock it. My mom is full

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<v Speaker 4>Nigeria now. She loves Nigerian food. Like when we were kids,

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<v Speaker 4>we ate Nigerian foods in the house. But my mom

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<v Speaker 4>loved mashed potatoes and my mom loved baked beans. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was the dichotomy. But yeah, yeah, my mom was

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<v Speaker 4>from a wealthy way well on her family. My mom's

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<v Speaker 4>from a family called the Abasaki family and they are

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<v Speaker 4>practically royalty in Nigeria. And my mom was from a

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<v Speaker 4>wealthy family. Her dad had a load of wives. She

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<v Speaker 4>was educated. Her dad traveled all over the world on

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<v Speaker 4>business and he took her with him and she went

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<v Speaker 4>to private school and she was a school principal in

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<v Speaker 4>Nigeria before she was twenty four years old. So she

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<v Speaker 4>was very you know, she did yeah, she was very

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<v Speaker 4>She achieved a lot and then she came to England.

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<v Speaker 4>Did before.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did she come to England?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, long story short. If you read money book that's

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<v Speaker 4>coming here, that's how you know that. My my mother

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<v Speaker 4>was the daughter of the first wife. So my grandfather

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<v Speaker 4>had many wives. As you know, polygamy was why I

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<v Speaker 4>practiced in Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, lots of wives, lots of friend and lots

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<v Speaker 4>of wives. And my daughter, my mum was the daughter

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<v Speaker 4>of the first wife. But the first wife was very

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<v Speaker 4>powerful as the first wife is as the first the

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<v Speaker 4>other wives were very jealous and there was the other

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<v Speaker 4>wives murdered my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>They put you, oh yeah, well we never get into

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning this throne ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for real.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the other wives did not my mother. My

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<v Speaker 4>grandmother was like, listen, the other wives don't like me.

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<v Speaker 4>These bitches are trying to kill me. If anything happens

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<v Speaker 4>to me, get my daughter out of Nigeria. So she

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<v Speaker 4>ended up dying. She was poisoned and when she died,

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<v Speaker 4>she had a mark on her throat. Now, before my

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<v Speaker 4>grandmother died, she always used to say when I come back,

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<v Speaker 4>when I come back, I'm going to I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>speak English. I'm going to be in England. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to have all these children because my mother, my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 4>had eleven kids and I don't want to all these children.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do a man's job. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>have freedom, all everything. When she died from a poison

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<v Speaker 4>she had a mark on her throat. Obviously, when she died,

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<v Speaker 4>my grandfather sent my mom out of the country because

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<v Speaker 4>who's like, world, I've killed the wife. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to have them kill my daughter to so he sent

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<v Speaker 4>my mom to England to study and that is where

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<v Speaker 4>my mom met my dad. They met each other, they

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<v Speaker 4>had me, and I came out with this mark on

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<v Speaker 4>my float. So basically, I'm a reincarnation of my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 4>So that that's the story. Because Nigeras believe heavily in

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<v Speaker 4>the incarnation and I came out doing all the things

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<v Speaker 4>that my grandmother said. Ful I fulfilled everything. So when

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<v Speaker 4>I said my mo, mom was like comedian, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to become a clown. I was like, mom, remember this

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<v Speaker 4>is what your mother wanted. I am your mother. That's

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<v Speaker 4>how I get away with her. But yeah, my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's how my mother ended up in England studying

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<v Speaker 4>and she was a teacher. She came to England. She

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to carry on working as a teacher, for England

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<v Speaker 4>was super racist. She couldn't. My dad. She met my dad.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad was studying for his PhD. He was and

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<v Speaker 4>he was also a qualified lawyer. They could he couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>get work as a lawyer in England. So basically they met,

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<v Speaker 4>they got married, they had us, and then my dad

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<v Speaker 4>was like, forget this, I want to go back to Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not I am driving a bus when I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a lawyer. I'm a lawyer in Nigeria. I'm not staying

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<v Speaker 4>here to drive a bus. Let's get the kids, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>And my mom was like, no, I've had my children

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<v Speaker 4>in England. They are British. I want them to stay

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<v Speaker 4>in England and be afforded all the opportunities that being

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<v Speaker 4>British entails. I'm staying here with my kids. So basically

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<v Speaker 4>my mom and dad. My dad went back to Nigeria

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<v Speaker 4>when I was three and I didn't see him again

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<v Speaker 4>till I was thirty seven when I went out there

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<v Speaker 4>to do a show in Nigeria. So that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you met your father backstage at a show.

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<v Speaker 4>He came to my show. So at that point I

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty well known in England and pretty well known

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<v Speaker 4>in Nigeria. Done a couple of sketches on television in

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<v Speaker 4>England that had gone viral in Nigeria. So I got

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<v Speaker 4>flown out to Nigeria to do a show. And obviously

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<v Speaker 4>I still carry my father's name, so my father was

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<v Speaker 4>like when I was going, my mom was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>your father is going to turn up you watch, it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Claim you.

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<v Speaker 4>And he did. He turned out for the show with

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of brothers and sisters I'd never met. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was it was, It's all in the book. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all in the book, people, it is.

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<v Speaker 6>And also in the book, I remember I want to

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<v Speaker 6>tell people too. You give a good history on the

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<v Speaker 6>Empire of Benin and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh wow, I had no idea, so

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<v Speaker 5>can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you briefly let me know about I just recently

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<v Speaker 2>found out my lineage to Benin like this a year ago, and.

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<v Speaker 4>The inn the country next to Nigeria or been in

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<v Speaker 4>the city in Nigeria. I've been in this because there's

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<v Speaker 4>two minutes there's been in city in Nigeria, which is

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<v Speaker 4>where my family is from. And then there's been in

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<v Speaker 4>the country which is next to Nigeria where they speak French. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so are you. But if they say Banina your I'm

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<v Speaker 4>assuming it's been in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that it was the country simply because when

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<v Speaker 2>there was a civil war happening, the Nigerians had some

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<v Speaker 2>beneath prisoners that they used as leverage to negotiate. My

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<v Speaker 2>great great grandfathers was one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those, uh those captured and sold in the slavery in America.

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<v Speaker 1>So the country, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely the country then in yes, but yeah. I opened

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<v Speaker 4>my book with history of Nigeria and within Nigeria which

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<v Speaker 4>is now Southern Nigerian where my family was from, and

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<v Speaker 4>and how advanced the society was, and how the British

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<v Speaker 4>came and tried to take and they got their asses

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<v Speaker 4>handed to them by the Bnin warriors. And then they

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<v Speaker 4>came back and burnt Been into the ground and stole

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<v Speaker 4>all those bronzes. And hence while you've got all these

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<v Speaker 4>bien In bronzes in museums in New York and around

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<v Speaker 4>the world, because the British came, burned down, stole all

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<v Speaker 4>the bronzes and sold the bronzes to pay for the

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<v Speaker 4>army they've used to burn down Been in.

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<v Speaker 1>The British have done to the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Man Jesus like, yeah, exactly, when you guys go, oh

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<v Speaker 4>Britain is so polite and genteel, it's no, it is

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<v Speaker 4>they are straight savages.

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<v Speaker 5>Well and also not for nothing.

0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Nigerians usually act like ain't nobody come and mess with

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<v Speaker 6>them at all, So this history is not always told

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<v Speaker 6>in that aspect. It's like anybody comes, try to colonize us.

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<v Speaker 6>We got no, We're good, Oh no, we were.

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<v Speaker 4>We only got our independence. Now, you only got air

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<v Speaker 4>independence in nineteen sixty and nineteen sixty. We got our independence,

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<v Speaker 4>and even then the economy was completely messed up after

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<v Speaker 4>that because the white people came out and took everything

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<v Speaker 4>with them and they've already raked it of all the resources,

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<v Speaker 4>all the oil, all the everything. And then there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money in oil for a while, but

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<v Speaker 4>it all collapsed. It all collapsed. The school systems was

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<v Speaker 4>based on the British school SYSM. The you know, they

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<v Speaker 4>took away the element that Nigerians were all about. Africans

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<v Speaker 4>were all about family and learning trades and passing down

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<v Speaker 4>stuff within the family, and the British came and went, now,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't forget about family stuff. That capitalism. It's all

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<v Speaker 4>about capitalism. You learned to get these qualifications and then

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<v Speaker 4>like it. And so they completely changed the way that

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<v Speaker 4>Nigerians worked and it's just ruined, in my opinion, ruined

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<v Speaker 4>the country. Now you've got a few greedy people just

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<v Speaker 4>creaming everything off there. Just so that's the history.

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<v Speaker 5>He at least you know yours. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>go to Africa ancestry right somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were speaking of your family earlier, are you.

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<v Speaker 2>In an active kind of communication with them now, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how does the idea of family reunion work?

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<v Speaker 4>Or well, my dad's my dad died a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>That side the family, you know, he wasn't there for me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when I went to Nigeria, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>very polite to him because he you know, he's the

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<v Speaker 4>other half of my genetic tree, and I was very

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm Nigerian, so I was brought up to

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<v Speaker 4>respect my eldest So when I met him, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to go mother, you I ain't seen the hilst.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't gonna do that, So I was very polite.

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<v Speaker 4>We sat, I told him to dinner. We talked. I

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<v Speaker 4>asked him all the questions that I'd had from my childhood,

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<v Speaker 4>like why didn't you come back for us? Why? And

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<v Speaker 4>he had a stack of letters that he'd been sending

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<v Speaker 4>to us as kids that had all been returned because

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<v Speaker 4>my mother was like get out of here because she

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<v Speaker 4>he broke her heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>My mother was pregnant with my younger brother when my

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<v Speaker 4>dad left. So imagine in England in the seventies, given birth.

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<v Speaker 1>By herself as a single mom.

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<v Speaker 4>As a single mom in the seventies in England where

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<v Speaker 4>she had no family, nobody, and she and I was

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<v Speaker 4>I had another brother, so it was me and my

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.679
<v Speaker 4>other brother were toddlers at the time, and she was

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<v Speaker 4>given birth to my youngest brother. So me and my

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 4>brother had to go into foster care temporarily while she

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<v Speaker 4>went into the hospital to have this baby because she

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<v Speaker 4>had nobody, so we went into care. You know, she

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<v Speaker 4>got a wife, I need to look after us while

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:08.920
<v Speaker 4>she went to hospital to have this baby. So my

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 4>mother never forgave my father for that. Can you imagine

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 4>being in the hospital all these all these women, all

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 4>their husbands are coming in with flowers for their wives

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 4>who've had these babies, and she's lying there by herself

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<v Speaker 4>with absolutely nobody. So she never forgave them, never forgave them.

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<v Speaker 4>So as a result, I kind of you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to say I hated him, but I was like, look,

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 4>you you abandoned. That's you know. I went through life

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:36.919
<v Speaker 4>with a horrible stepfather, horrible as you never came for us.

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<v Speaker 4>So I give you your due respect as my father figure,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's all you're getting. So I met him the

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<v Speaker 4>once and after that I was like, all right, I've

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<v Speaker 4>met him. That was great. I took a few tears,

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<v Speaker 4>that's all I need. So, you know, when he died,

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<v Speaker 4>these other kids that came, you know, are you coming

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<v Speaker 4>through the funeral and I'm like, no, I am sorry

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 4>for your loss. He was a father to you, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry for your last part. I did not know

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<v Speaker 4>the man, so no, I'm not coming for the funeral.

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<v Speaker 5>What about your mother's big family.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my mother's side of the family. Yeah, not the

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<v Speaker 4>wives who killed her mother. I didn't know any of those,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've met many of my uncles, her sisters. Yeah,

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of them came. A couple of them came

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<v Speaker 4>to England. So my mother's side of the family good,

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<v Speaker 4>all her friends. Yeah, that's that's who I rock with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay sounds Hey can you Okay? I'm glad you're on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. To also clear up this this conception because

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Americans have a different especially Black Americans, we have this different.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea of who Nigerians are coming from. This a I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be real with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, not in DC, not in Houston, and not in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, outside of DC, Houston and Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>D I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's almost like a crazy stereotype that we never

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<v Speaker 2>get to dispel that myth because we rarely have Nigerian

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<v Speaker 2>guests on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 4>What's just what's the stereotime?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, just basically like the ideas Nigerian scam artists

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 2>that there's some visible scam artists that we I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, we are really good at that ship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Love Oh damn. I'm trying to get you to wipe

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<v Speaker 1>it off the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Nigerians are very smart and very resourceful. And if you're

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 4>stupid enough to fall for some many scams and give

0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.640
<v Speaker 4>them your money, then I went.

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<v Speaker 1>To Nigeria sixteen. I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Look it is going on. I went to Nigeria and

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<v Speaker 4>when I went to lakes, I saw houses with signs

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 4>on the houses it said this house is not for sale.

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<v Speaker 4>They had signs on the houses because what was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>People were going on the internet and selling other people's houses,

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 4>so selling houses that don't belong to them. So you're

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 4>in the house and people don't GI. Yeah, and if

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 4>people knock on the door, excuse me what you did

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<v Speaker 4>in my house? I just bought this house. Like no,

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<v Speaker 4>but this is mass But this is what.

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<v Speaker 6>Was hay right scam here, Gina, are you aware that

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<v Speaker 6>Nigeria's brought that scam here?

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a scam like.

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<v Speaker 6>All over your Craigslist, your favorite apartment search, you see

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<v Speaker 6>a beautiful house and the the price doesn't look believable,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you call and they tell you to drive

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<v Speaker 6>by and look at it from the outside, and they

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 6>give you a long story about how somebody lost their

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<v Speaker 6>job and somebody died.

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<v Speaker 1>And you fell for.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't fall fall. I just got to the park

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<v Speaker 5>where you drive past the house.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember someone. All the scams are out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember someone. I was selling a phone years ago on

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<v Speaker 4>was it email or something? I was selling a phone

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<v Speaker 4>this how long ago it was? It was on email

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<v Speaker 4>selling the phone and this Nigerian send me an email

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<v Speaker 4>and listen. I think I want three hundred for the

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<v Speaker 4>phone or something. And this guy was like, I will

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 4>give you seven hundred. I'll give you send just send

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 4>me the phone and I will send you a Western Union.

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<v Speaker 4>And I emailed him back and I was like, did

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<v Speaker 4>you look up my name? My name? You are trying

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<v Speaker 4>to scam another Nigerian. Don't even don't even.

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<v Speaker 5>Try now, Gina.

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<v Speaker 6>Is the scamming pure Nigerian or is it tribals because

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 6>some may say there's certain tribes are more scamming to

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<v Speaker 6>others or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about that. I just think it's just Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying all Nigenes. It's a small percentage of

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Nigerians are doing this. It's not all Nigeens. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>do that ship. I don't even know how to. I

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<v Speaker 4>would love to learn, but no, Note it's a small percentage.

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 4>It's been blown up out of proportion to make it

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<v Speaker 4>look like every Nigerian is scamming. There's a small percentage

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 4>of who are really really good at it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>trust it's a base small number. I don't know which

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 4>tribe it is. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you clear that up.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't. I didn't clear that up. But you know what, honestly,

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 4>it's all about honesty. People were doing honesty something that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, I gotta I gotta go. I gotta cancel

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<v Speaker 1>this check I just sent out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, could you tell us about creatively, what was

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 2>your like life like growing up in Britain and the

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 2>time period, like your formative years, like ten eleven twelve,

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 2>like your school existence or just like what did you

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<v Speaker 2>generally do and during that time period.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, same as every other kid, did try to just play,

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<v Speaker 4>do my school work, and it was a struggle being

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 4>an African kid, it was not cool at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though I say England was racist, it wasn't

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 4>white kids I was fighting with at school. It was

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 4>other black kids, the descendants of slaves from the Caribbean,

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 4>African Caribbean kids, you know, because it is that they

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 4>got the same education that we all got. And in

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<v Speaker 4>the seventies and eighties, the view of Africans, the only

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 4>image of Africans on TV was either are sitting there

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 4>with flies landing on our face, begging for food donations,

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 4>or in Tarzan movies chasing white men around in trying

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 4>to and cook them in parts were bones in our noses.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 4>So we were seen as primitive and heaths and an

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.959
<v Speaker 4>animalistic and that was what the image of Africans was

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 4>at the time. So as an African kid at school,

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 4>I would put up with you guys. In America it

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 4>was African booty, sclatchert in in England it was African booball,

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 4>spear chucker, all of that stuff, And it was it

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 4>was black kids call that because the British were so

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 4>good at hiding their their what you know, because this

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 4>has been you don't know about the British. The Europeans

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 4>were the biggest slavers, biggest. Belgians were disgusting. The Dutch

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 4>were discussed. Belgian England was number one. The British Empire,

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 4>they were number one. They just hid it better. Like

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I used to do this routine when I say that

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 4>the Americans did the equivalent of stealing ship, as in

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 4>stealing people and bringing it back to their own house,

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 4>whereas the Brits stole but kept it in other people's houses.

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 4>So they Yeah, so they went to Africa, they took

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 4>they stole people, but they didn't bring them all back

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 4>to England. They put them on you know, their colonies

0:26:56.040 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 4>in the Caribbean. Yeah, barbade Us in kids, Jamaica. All

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 4>of those people are descendants of slaves, all the black

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 4>people from the islands. But they did not educate the

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 4>black people from the islands as to where they came from.

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 4>They just assumed that they were from the islands, that

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 4>there was a there are black people from Africa and

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 4>there are black people from the islands. They didn't know.

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 4>So I had so many fights to school with kids

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 4>who'll be calling me names. I go and I go fuck.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Do not know that your africantinue you came from. Ain't

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 4>no African. I'm a Jamaican. I haint no primitive. I

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 4>don't run around with doult bones in my I used

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 4>to get that school and it wasn't until roots came

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 4>out in England that they went. My gods, because they didn't.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 4>They were not educated. It's not their fault, they were

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 4>not educated. The school system did not educate us to

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 4>tell us that all black people okay from Africa. They

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't know it. So at school I went for a

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 4>horrible time with other black kids just calling me names.

0:27:57.840 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I was constantly getting into fight to school, and that's

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 4>where I started using humor because I was getting into

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 4>too much trouble because I was to make myself into

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 4>the crazy kid. Don't mess because she will punctu your

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 4>face tall, big, small, you know, I would just I

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 4>would fight. I'd be ready to fight, to shout so

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 4>that I wouldn't get bullied. I will fight any of you.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Don't even I will fight you. So then I started

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 4>using humor to kind of circumvent those, you know, those confrontations.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so it's weird to hear you say that,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>because in my mind, I thought that type of ignorance

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>was just for America because yeah, like I also you know,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>had experience like that in the mid seventies or whatever,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>like the the the worst insult you could say, like

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:52.959
<v Speaker 2>on the on the playground or whatever on recess to

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>call someone African, Like that's when it's like, yo, I'm

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to fuck you up.

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you say that to me again.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know to hear that this also is happening

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>with African kids over it's white supremacy.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, white supremacy. They indoctrinated the entire planet.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's genius what they did when you think

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 4>about it, generation people knocking out.

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I'm also dying because I do another podcast

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 6>with Jill Scott and Asia from Kindred, and Asia always says,

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 6>the root of everything that has to go on with

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 6>black people is white supremacy.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 7>So it's just like word, absolutely the genius that not

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 7>even the fact that they subjugated us, that they convinced

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 7>us that we were less than and generations later, hundreds

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 7>of years later.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 4>We still believe that we are less than we still did.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Hence you have all the you know, African Americans hate

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Africans Africa. Haitians hate this to try. Everything stems from that.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 4>The religion that was forced upon us to have us

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 4>believe even in a white Jesus and a white God.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 4>The religion is forced upon the homophobia that was never

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 4>existent in African society. We were spiritual, We were spiritual.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you practice Euba? Are you do you practice Euba

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the religion?

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Or I don't.

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't practice any religions. Really, I'm like, I've pulled

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 4>out from all are you Europa?

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 4>My family from Benin City. But yeah, like if you

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 4>look back in history, homophobia was not existent in Africa.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 4>It was all about spirits. They you know, there are

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 4>historical pieces written by white people who came to Africa.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 6>They came now so now they because somebody literally just

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 6>told me that Ghana just took down the sign at

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 6>their airport basically saying don't bring your homosexual don't bring

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 6>your American homosexuals Christianity.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Basically the bricks came in and they were like, what

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 4>are you doing your worshiping these deities, these wooden artifactists.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 4>This stuff that you're doing is wrong as disgusting as

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 4>he them. You will, you will, you will worship this

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 4>white Jesus, and they built churches, and they took the

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 4>land to build these churches, and they beat the religion

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 4>into the people and it's been passed down for generas generations,

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 4>so they didn't even know where the religion comes from.

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 4>So the Christianity and all that stuff was not there before.

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't met. Now, we worshiped the land, We worship

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 4>our own deities. We worshiped the spirits within people. So yes,

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 4>there were men that had more feminine energy, but it

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>was no big deal. There were women who had more

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>masculine energy, but people just were It was all about

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 4>the spirits of the people. Same thing within the indigenous

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 4>tribes of every country. You know that they had different

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.719
<v Speaker 4>genders and they it didn't It was all about the spirit.

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 4>And some of these people with different genders or different

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 4>identities were considered more spiritual than some they we went to.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 4>They used to go to them for advice and things

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 4>like that. So this was what it was like before

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 4>the white missionaries came. Yeah, and they were like, stop

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 4>all of this, stop all of this. This is heathen,

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 4>this is animalistic. You will worship our white Jesus. You

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 4>will go to our churches, and we will give you

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 4>our education, and if you don't do it, we will

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>kill you. So while we're building your churches, we will

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 4>take every all your land to build these churches that

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 4>you did not know you needed and you were worshiping them.

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 4>And we may sell some of your family, but that's

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 4>just how it is. We are bringing you civilization, and

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 4>that's basically what happen. So the religion that you see

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:38.239
<v Speaker 4>is bastardized. It's been used by men to subjugate. This

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 4>is the same religion that was used to justify enslaver

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 4>and black os.

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I was about to say, you know, you

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 6>know all about this same religion.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Some of us try to act like we need forgot.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So you know, I'm like, this same religion that

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 4>you're using to beat people over the head because they

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 4>have this is the same religion that was used to

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 4>subjugate your people for hundreds of years. This is the

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 4>same the same colonizes that you claim to reject, but

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 4>you're not rejecting the bullshit that they taught you.

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you when you occasionally bring this up

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>in concert, like when you really get real about the

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>effects of racism, knowing that you have a mixed audience,

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 2>like what's the general reaction and how do you handle

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>it if someone collapse back at you? Because I saw

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Chappelle try to do this once and it didn't work

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>with his sort of drunk frat boy I'm Rick James

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>bitch audience that was wanting him to just, you know,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>just be a caricature, and you know he's here to

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 2>turn Dick Gregory on them.

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean here's the thing. The audience that tends

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 4>to come to see me know that I just say, well,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say so if you're coming to see me,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 4>you know that you're getting what you're getting. Also, as

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 4>a comedian, my first port of call is always too entertained.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm here to make you laugh. I'm not a teacher.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a lecturer. I'm not That's not what I'm

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 4>here to make you laugh. So that is always my

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 4>first port of call. You need to be laughing.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 4>If I'm slipping in some politics and slipping in some

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 4>that's teaching you something. As long as you're laughing, it's

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 4>all good. So I don't go out there and just

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 4>got hardly man is the devil. I don't do that

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>I tell stories. I tell stories of experiences from my

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 4>life because just by virtue of who I am, I

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 4>am a walking political statement. So I don't have to

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 4>make a big dealer again I'm black. I'll just tell stories.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell stories about the racist woman on the train

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 4>who didn't believe that I belonged in first class. I'll

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 4>tell the stories of being in the first class lounge

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 4>at the airport and a guy asking me where the

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 4>eggs are. I would just tell stories. I would tell

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 4>the stories and they learn from the stories. They're laughing,

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 4>but they're learning at the same time. And that's how

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 4>I do it. It's like feeding medicine, but you coat

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 4>it in sugar, so you don't really know you're taking

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 4>the medicine. And that's how I tend to do it.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 4>As a stand up coming so I don't go. You know, obviously,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>people still get angry because white people get angry that

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 4>you got I call them the defensive white people. Ah,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 4>the dfws who will get upset with if you just

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 4>mentioned race, They're going to get upset. And I mean

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 4>called racist by someone. You're racist, You're racist talking about

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 4>white people. I'm like, talking about racism does not make

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.399
<v Speaker 4>you racist. You gotta know the difference. You're defensive, you're

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 4>just so I'm just like, just get out of my face.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, but an audience who comes to see me

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 4>know that they're gonna have a good time. They're going

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 4>to laugh a lot, and they may come out with

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 4>some knowledge, but really they're coming to enjoy your show.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 4>And that's what it's about for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that before a life in comedy, you were

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>preparing for life as an engineer.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't prepared. I was an engineer.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I worked right, but I mean, well, yeah, what came first?

0:35:55.719 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>You're need to make people laugh or you know, I

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>would assume that was it.

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Was it a desire to be this engineer or was

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 2>it like let me fall back on something.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>No, the desire to make people up, It wasn't a desire.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 4>It came out of necessity to avoid fights. I didn't

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 4>think it was something I could do for a living.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I just used thatchanism.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a defense mechanism. But I come from

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 4>an African family with very academic so my mom was like,

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, I do a routine on stage where I

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 4>got there's four choices of career in an African family. Doctor, lawyer, engineer,

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 4>disgrace to the family. Those are the choices. So I

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 4>was meant to be the doctor. My mom told me

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 4>from the age of two that I was going to

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 4>be a doctor. It was until I was at eighteen

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 4>and we had to dissect a rat that I discovered

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't stand the sight of blood. So I switched

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 4>from studying to become a doctor to engineering because that

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 4>was the next on the list. So yeah, I became

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 4>an engineer. I started, I got my degree in electrical

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 4>electronics engineering, and I became an engineer, and I enjoyed

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 4>the work. I enjoyed being I was never going to

0:36:59.960 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 4>be the best engineer in the world, though I was.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 4>I was okay, I did well, and also I was

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 4>you know. My last job was working for Otis Building,

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 4>repairing elevators. His name was Elijah Otis, the man who

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 4>supposedly invented the elevator, even though he probably had a

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 4>black person helping them do that as they did. But

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 4>the guy who is credited with inventing the elevator was

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 4>a white man. People figures a black guy because the

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 4>name Otis, but his name was Elijah Otis. It was

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 4>a white dude. But I worked for Otis Elevator building

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 4>and repairing elevators that as an engineer, and I was

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 4>their first female engineer in their one hundred year history

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 4>in the UK of this company in the UK, And

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 4>it sounds amazing, but it was not. I worked on

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 4>construction sites with white men and I was the only

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 4>woman engineer and a black engineer in that and the

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 4>same paid word as these people, while being much younger

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 4>than all of them. I went for a baptism of fire.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 4>Like you're on a construction site. There's no HR, there's

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 4>no one to say, oh, you're not allowed to say

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 4>it back. I got called the nigga to my face

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 4>every day at work. I'd come into work and there's

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 4>pictures and monkeys above my overalls, or there's banana skins

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 4>in the pockets of my overrules, and they'd be giggling

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 4>as I'm taking out these banana skins and throwing them away.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 4>This this is what I put up with at work

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 4>every day for four years. Oh yeah, I stuck it

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 4>out because I had to prove that I could do

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 4>the job. I had to prove to them that they're

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 4>not going to scare me out of this that I'm

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 4>as good as they are. And the more they hated me,

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 4>the more I came into work because they wanted to

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 4>drive me away and I was not having it. But

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 4>in the end I had to pull a guy aside

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 4>and threaten him with physical violence. I was like, listen,

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 4>you can call me nigga. I've got two brothers. I

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 4>was sending these two niggas around your house too. Fuck

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 4>you up. I know where you live, so that if

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 4>you call me nigger once more, you're a dead man.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 4>And that is it. He never spoke to me again. Damn,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 4>work got quiet, but.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 5>I was helping. I wanted. I wanted them to meet

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 5>a niggah.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he didn't get to shut his math. He shut

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 4>his mouth quick, that is quick when I told him

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 4>my new ways lived and I'll send my brother's around there.

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 4>So that But that was what I put up with

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 4>every day at work for years and then the only

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 4>reason I ended up leaving the job. I was good

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 4>at the job. That any reason I ended up leaving

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 4>because I wasn't getting the promotions I was supposed to.

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Because I was a woman. I was their first woman.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 4>They didn't know what to do with me.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 5>That's great.

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 4>So I'd be like, well, I've done this, I've earned this,

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I've done this promotion. I've got the promotion, you give

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 4>it to me on paper, You've given me the money.

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm supposed to run my own site because when

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 4>you get to a certain level, you then manage your

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 4>own site. And they were like, well, we don't have

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 4>to the gins is we've done. If the guys are

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 4>going to listen to a bird, you know what I mean,

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 4>doesn't think they're they're going to listen to a girl.

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Given them all theers, So we'll give you the promotion,

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 4>give you the money, but you can't manage your own site.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, well, then this is not good.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go to a grievance hearing. So I

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 4>set up a hearing. My union that I've been paying

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 4>into for four years, refused to represent me. Union records like,

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 4>we don't know about this women's stuff, so you're on

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 4>your own. So I turned up for this ingridians hearing

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 4>unrepresented by my union. So here I am twenty one

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 4>year old black girl in a room with these old

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 4>white men who run who are at the top of

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 4>the company, and obviously I lost. They were like, yeah,

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 4>we don't see we're doing anything. Want to get out

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 4>of here. So in the end, I was like, I'm

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I at this job. They were you know, in the

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 4>mid nineties, they were making people with Dundant. The building

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 4>industry went through a bit of a slump. They were

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 4>laying people off. They were never going to lay me

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 4>off because I was their black poster child. But I

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>marched into my manager's office and I was like, you

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 4>better pay me off and let me go. Al was

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 4>I going to go public with this shit. So they

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 4>were like, oh, here's your money, Off you go. And

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 4>it was in that time that I fell into comedy

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 4>because I was like, let me take a little bit

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 4>of time out of engineering, let me have some fun,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 4>let me go.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you had a little cushion, Yeah, a little cushion.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>I had the money and had a little apartment with

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 4>my My rent was cheap. My car was brought cash

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 4>at this nice little nest egg money. So I lived

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 4>off that money. And it was in that time that

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 4>I fell into comedy and just ended up never go

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 4>back to engineering.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Around what year was that.

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 4>I'd say ninety I started doing comedy in ninety six.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, oh damn okay, yea.

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 5>At the time, who were you laughing at?

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 5>Who was making you laugh?

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 4>Funnily enough, I never really watched comedy before I did it. Oh,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm not one of those comedians that's got an encyclopedic

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 4>knowledge of comedy. I like to watch my peers. I

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 4>never watched the l because I tried to watch Richard

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Prior videos, but but when I came, I'd seen so

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 4>many cares doing virgins off he stuff. But by the

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 4>time I saw him, I was like, yeah, like I've

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 4>seen this, and it sounds horrible to say this publicly, No,

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 4>that's real. I've never watched it entire which of Brian

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Special because I felt like i'd seen it because I've

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.280
<v Speaker 4>seen versions of it so often.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Prior is one of those dudes like I always

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 3>compare him to Like he's kind of like what Dila,

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 3>what j. Dillar was to music, in the sense that

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to explain him. You had to be there

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and trying to explain him to people. Now they don't

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 3>understand it, Like, Yo, before this guy happened, all this

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 3>shit that y'are rocking to now, like that shit just

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>did not exist, you know what I mean, And it's

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 3>hard to explain that the people you know.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>And Richard Pryor, he was kind of like that when I.

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Would watch him, you know, all my uncles and should

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 3>be laughing at him, but I'd be like, huh, you

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, as my mom's mayble, and I was curious

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 6>if you ever.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've gone back and researched it, That's what

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 4>I meant. So I've gone back and got oh moms,

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 4>But like we didn't have mums. Maybe in England we

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>would not have known who she was. It's only when

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 4>I moved to America that I started looking at the

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 4>history of a black comedy in I mean, we had

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Eddie Murphy obviously in England he was huge. He was

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 4>a world wide superstar. So I saw raw, you know,

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 4>we everybody saw that. And then we used to get

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 4>the VHS tapes of the Deaf comedy jams, so we

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 4>got that, so we got deaf comedy jamming. England we

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 4>always to, you know, so when I ended up doing

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 4>deafth comedy jams, all the black British comics were like,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, do it that. It was the massive

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 4>thing because we'd all been sleeking and watching the vhs

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 4>of Deaf Commic. So, but when I came to MCA,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 4>that's when I started. You know, Chris Rock. We knew

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 4>who Chris Rock again, you know we've got.

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 5>All the me came there too.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he came in towards so we knew who Chris

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Rock was. A Chappelle's show came later on. We we

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 4>did get Schappelle Show. But I never watch Chappelle Show.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I never watched it because it was at that time

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 4>when I was I don't know when was Schappell Show.

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>It was like two thousand and three, so.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 4>I was already in comedy in England, just hustings. So

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 4>I never really watched a lot. I never really so

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I've seen I've never seen all of I've seen clips

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 4>of the Chappelle Show on the internet, but I never

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 4>I was not really watching TV like that. I've never

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 4>even watched the First Prince. I know, I've watched clips

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 4>of it. I've seen it. I know the show, I

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 4>know what it's about. I watched the documentary of it,

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 4>but when it was on, I never actually watched the show.

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, once she's seen a few clips, you see anymore.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing no, okay.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>So from my observation, you know, when I'm watching people

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>talk about English comedy, of course, Faulty Towers and Monty

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Python and whatnot.

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 1>What people would you say.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 4>White English comedy? When I say English comedy, it usually

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 4>means white people.

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>But what were black people holding on to as far

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 2>as comedy was concerned in the late sixties early seventies, Like,

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 2>what was Monty Python for black people?

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Not really?

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I didn't give ahit about Monty Python. I never found it.

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get it. Was just a bunch of very wealthy,

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 4>middle class white this is how Monty Python sounded to me.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 4>That's all it sounds like to me. I just I

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 4>never watched it as a kid. I didn't get it,

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, I just didn't get it.

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get much but Benny Hill.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 4>But Benny Hill was physical comedy exactly.

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid watching that, and it was as

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a kid.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't I mean, as a kid. There was a

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 4>guy called Kenny Ever who who I found hilarious. If

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 4>you ever look up clips of this guy on YouTube,

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 4>Kenny Everett hilarious, hilarious. He was funny, and he was

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 4>who I watched on TV. We had Lenny Henry, who

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 4>was our black comedian. He was one top black comedian

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 4>in the UK, so we watched a lot of his staff,

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Scared So we had stuff we had,

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, we had a lot of We had TV

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 4>shows with Caribian actors on it. So we had our shows.

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 4>But as far as black comics in the sixties, a

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 4>lot of the black comics in the sixties did very

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 4>self deprecating humor that was for white audiences.

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, they do similar to our minstrel comedy for America, Yeah,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 2>very much. So you guys had there was a version

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>of that for the UK as well.

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Black and White Minstrel Show was a British show. Yeah,

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 4>it was only in the UK. And then we also

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 4>had black Yeah, and so Lenny Henry, he was our

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 4>one black comic and black people looked at him sideways

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 4>for a long time because he did appear in the

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 4>minstrual show. But he was a young black comic. There

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 4>was nothing out there. He was the one and he

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 4>just did what he was told to do. But yeah,

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 4>he did appear in the show. So the black people

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 4>were like for a long time.

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So what year did the mental show stop in the UK?

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 4>Not for a long time. It went on for I

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 4>didn't I think it stopped. I think it didn't even

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 4>stop for like the early nights. It went on for

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 4>a long time. I might exaggerating, but I know it

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 4>was on for a very long time. It stopped way

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.720
<v Speaker 4>after it should have stopped.

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn, okay, way it has to sell by day.

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, well by way.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 2>So how does one cut their teeth and navigate through

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the early structure of trying to be a comedian?

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Like what clubs and like how are you able to

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>do that? And also you know where they open to

0:46:55.239 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you being a woman, a black person, how hard was

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it to sort of rub shoulders?

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 4>And when I started in comedy in the nineties, there

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 4>had been there was a burgeon in black comedy scene.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>There was a huge you know, it.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Was very segregated. So we had a black comedy scene

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 4>which was made up of theaters, black run theaters. There

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 4>were lots of good underground roots theaters around the country.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.439
<v Speaker 4>And there was a promoter called John Simmett who used

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 4>to put on shows all along and he used to

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 4>bring over American comics to do our show. It's like

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I met JB. Smooth twenty five years ago. Ian Edwards,

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 4>I met all of these guys twenty odd years ago

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 4>when I was starting out in England. I went to

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 4>see them at theaters in England in the nineties before

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 4>they became huge. So this guy, John Simmittt was putting

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 4>on all these shows. So there was a really good

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 4>comedy scene. Not in comedy clubs, it was theaters, it

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 4>was events. The black scene was an event. They put

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 4>in their face on the fly and people came and

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 4>got dressed up. It was a big event. So that's

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 4>where I started doing comedy on the black scene. The

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 4>white comedy scene was mainly cony clubs and there were

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 4>a lot of them all over the countries, so you

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 4>could make the black team paid more money because it

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 4>was more of an events, but they weren't as many

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 4>of them, so you might get one, you know, we

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 4>might get one show every couple of weeks playing three

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 4>hundred bucks. But was on the white circuit. They paid

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 4>less money, but you've got a lot of work if

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 4>you got into the clubs. I've always made the point

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 4>of playing both sets, playing the Black scene and the

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>white scene. Immediately from the beginning, I was like, I

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 4>want to be funny to everybody, and I want to

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 4>make all the money because I'm a Nigerian. So that's

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 4>how I thought. I want to make all the money,

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 4>so I want to do all the clubs. So I

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 4>made the point of playing both. People used to say,

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 4>are you going to go do the white circuits? You're

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 4>set out whatever, But I never sold myself out. I

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 4>always was pretty much quintessentially me when I did those shows.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and that's why I did. It was hard.

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 4>It was a struggle. It was a struggle getting on

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 4>at those clubs because they didn't respect black comedy. They

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 4>always thought that black comics were this the same, isn't

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 4>America The assumption that every black comic is a deaf

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 4>jam comic, or every black comic talks a certain way.

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 4>That's how it was in England. They thought that all

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 4>we talked about is our parents beating us or whatever.

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 4>So it was a struggle getting on those clubs. But

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 4>I worked here, and you know I did. I kept

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 4>tussling and kept testing these clubs and I did get on.

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.359
<v Speaker 4>But you know, it was hard getting on TV. I

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 4>was always the token. I was always on TV. I

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 4>was on all manner of TV shows. You know. I

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 4>was famous for being that black girl that's on every

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 4>show an England never had show. So when these shows

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 4>got accused of racism, they go, but no, no, we're

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.360
<v Speaker 4>not racist. We had Gina. We've had Gina on our

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 4>show eight times. So I realized I was being used

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 4>as a token to keep other black people down. So

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I got to get out of here.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 4>I got to get out here.

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I was told that I was trying to figure out

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>an American comedy when blacks are trying to get to

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>that mainstream level, Like, you know, how do you get

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 2>out of what we call the Chiplin circuit into mainstream comedy.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Some black comedians joke with me, the one thing you

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>can't do when you decide to go mainstream is, I

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>guess the common denominator is amongst comedians is your deaf,

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 2>your deaf jam comic if you're fucking the chair.

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, there was a lot of chair humping, a lot

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 4>of chair humping exactly.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So what what is the.

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>What's the sort of the signature kind of blanket move

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>for black comics in the UK, That sort of.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, a lot of black comics in the UK kind

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 4>of modeled themselves on the Deaf jam comics, So there

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 4>was also some store humping in England as well.

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>But fuck like this, White people like that.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 4>When I started doing comedy. When I started doing comedy,

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was the only comedian of African descent

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 4>that was really doing it. A lot. Ninety of the

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 4>comedians wore Caribbean descent, so a lot of their jokes

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 4>were doing jokes at the expensive Africans. So when I

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 4>came out, I was coming from a different perspective. So

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.879
<v Speaker 4>that made me stand out immediately from everybody else because

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, you guys are talking about Africans,

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 4>let me tell Jamaica's let me tell you about yourself, Basians,

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 4>let me tell you about yourself. And so I was

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:17.439
<v Speaker 4>coming from that perspective, and I did material about being

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 4>an African kid and the experiences at school being So

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I came from that perspective. So it made me stand out,

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 4>made me different, and it made me successful earlier because

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 4>I was coming I was very different from everybody else.

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 4>But then what happened was I started a trend because

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 4>I was able to parlay that into mainstream success on

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 4>television talking about my African heritage on British television. Then

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:47.720
<v Speaker 4>I started a whole stream of young comics of African

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 4>descent who were like, oh, we could talk about being African.

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 4>And then it almost became hack because I was doing characters,

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 4>my African characters, which were characters well written, but a

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of these younger comics were just coming out and go,

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 4>look like I dog in an African accent and it's

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.359
<v Speaker 4>really fun and people were laughing at that, so then

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 4>it became hackey.

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to ask, Uh, you mentioned the

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Lenny Henry Show earlier, and that's where you did more

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 2>of your sketch your character actors, How did you develop

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Tanya the one of your more famous characters, Tanya and

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh and I love the fact that you wore a

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 2>bootleg Alan iverson Jersey I'm from Philly. And the other

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 2>character missus us Yeah, how did you develop those characters

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 2>for that show?

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 4>Well? Missus Macreda was based on my mom, so I've

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 4>been doing various versions of her in my stand up

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 4>before that, so all I did was just make her

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 4>a person and put the wig on and actually encapsulate

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 4>The character Tanya was based on the young girls I

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.520
<v Speaker 4>used to see on the buses and see it on

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 4>the streets when I used to hang out, and I

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 4>used to listen to their conversations and their voices and stuff.

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 4>So but when they call me on the show, they

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 4>called me to be a writer. They didn't call me

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 4>to be.

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>On the show. They wanted me.

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 4>To write on the show. And I was like, well,

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 4>I write on the show, but the characters that I

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, that I come up with, I want to

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 4>play them. That's the only reason I'm gonna I'm a comedian,

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm a performer. I don't want to just write sketches

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 4>and be in the background. So I was like, if

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 4>I write on the show, but if I create these characters,

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 4>I want to play them. And that's basically how I

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 4>got on the show as a writer and performer, and

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:34.720
<v Speaker 4>lucky I did, because those characters catapulted me to mainstream success.

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Up until that Lenny Henry show, I was what you

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 4>call hood famous because I'd done a black TV show,

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 4>and I was famous to black audiences, and when I

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.839
<v Speaker 4>was selling out theaters, it was all black. But then

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 4>when I got on the Lenny Henry Show that was

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 4>mainstream BBC television in the UK, and my audience changed.

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 4>I started to pick up a much bigger and broader audience,

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 4>which I still hold to this day. So I still

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>kept my black routes because I never changed who I want.

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:01.959
<v Speaker 4>But then white people came on board.

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 1>So I know eventually you came stateside. What was the

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>what was the decision process to leave the UK to

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>move to America.

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, I wanted to be in America since I was

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 4>a child, since watching Different Strokes. I was like, I

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 4>want to go to America and be adopted by Like

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 4>it was my dream. I was to watch all your

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 4>TV shows. I'm like, kids in America they got better

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 4>candies than us, they got better clothes than us. They've

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 4>got better bikes, they can go around and solve crimes

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 4>and shit. I want to be an American kid.

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.960
<v Speaker 4>So when I was four years old, From four years old,

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 4>I say to my mom like, why why did you

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 4>come here? So I never felt British. I was like

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 4>why did you come here? Like you could have gone.

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 4>I could have been born in Miami, like what you thinking?

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 4>So it's pretty dream like. Even when I worked for

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Otis as an engineer. Otis is an American company, So

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.120
<v Speaker 4>all my life, I was planning to come to America.

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Even when I was working as an engineer, I was like,

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna work for an American company and at some

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 4>point I'm going to transfer and be an engineer in America.

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 4>So it's been my dream to live here my entire life.

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 4>How I got here as a comedian Last Comic Standing,

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 4>I saw it as a chance to get to America,

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and so I auditioned for the show and got to

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 4>the semi final and they got me a two year

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 4>work visa, and I was like, Oh, does this mean

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I can live and work in America for two years?

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm done. Went back to England, sold my house,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 4>sold and gave away everything I owned, and turned out

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 4>for the semi final of Last Comic Standing, which is

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 4>two suitcases to my name, and threw a big party

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 4>in England, said I'm leaving and coming back goodbye. And

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I was only a two year visa, but I'm going

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 4>to turn this into a green card and then I'm

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 4>going to turn it into businesship. I am never.

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Coming back into a dynasty. Nice.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 4>There you go, And I've been here fourteen years.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 5>So wait, is that for real?

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 6>Like before you came here, you saw all the like

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 6>the beauty of America, but you had no idea of

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 6>like what was really going on in the history.

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 4>Oh I knew what was going on, but and shit

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 4>was happening in England. So I was like, I'm just

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 4>there's no difference to me. I'm just going from you know,

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 4>as a comedian in England, a black comic covers, I

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 4>was well known, I hit I'd got quite famous, but

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 4>I hit that glass ceiling, hit the glass ceiling of

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 4>where black people are allowed to reach in English entertainment industry.

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, well, America's got a black seedling,

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 4>but it's a lot higher. So at least when I

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 4>hit the black ceiling, that the glass ceiling in America,

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 4>I'll be a multi millionaire when I hit it, and

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:29.800
<v Speaker 4>I can cry in my money. So that was my idea.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it because you are the queen.

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<v Speaker 6>You are the queen of comedy in London. There a

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<v Speaker 6>like queens.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I am the Adam. You know, I am

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<v Speaker 4>the most you know, well known black female comedian, one

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 4>of the most well known comedians standard in England. But

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 4>I was here and my white male counterparts here. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm here and I'm doing pretty well. I've got you know,

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well. But then these white is that who

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 4>opened for me and then going boom and becoming stadium

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 4>filling multimillionaires, And I'm like, wait, a year ago you

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.440
<v Speaker 4>were opening for me. How am I still here and

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 4>you're here? I need to get out of here. I

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 4>need to go and swim with the sharks in America.

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<v Speaker 6>This is mind blowing because I'm thinking of myself like,

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.720
<v Speaker 6>so now that she so, now that you're here, and

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 6>this is a different time. Now, it's a time now

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<v Speaker 6>where you know, in Hollywood it makes more sense for

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<v Speaker 6>you to be black and British black in African descent.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, like a lot of there's an issues that

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 6>people speak about sometimes that you are first choice when

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 6>it comes to roles a lot of times like what

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.919
<v Speaker 6>is what is your talk about?

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<v Speaker 5>It?

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about No, here's the thing with the whole African

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<v Speaker 4>American versus Africans and an hour versus Brits thing. If

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 4>there were enough rolls, enough world rounded, three dimensional roles

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 4>for black actors in America, we wouldn't be fighting over

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 4>these crumbs. We're fighting over crumbs. And here's the thing

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<v Speaker 4>I say. They say, the British black actors the first choice.

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<v Speaker 4>Not how many African American characters have played Nelson Mandela,

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<v Speaker 4>how many?

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>How many?

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 4>Only Washington played Steve Bako. All African heroes have been

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 4>played by African American actors. But we didn't complain. We

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 4>just were happy that our story parents.

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Howard even played Nelson. You have to remind us, wait

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>he did.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a yeah he was he was him and

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 3>uh and Jennifer Hudson played Winnie.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, wait, the Winnie movie. It was the

0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 5>Winnie movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yea, I won't need to end apart at me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was saying. What what is the big complaint?

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:57.919
<v Speaker 4>What is the big complaint? Collination? Like we had a show.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a movie in England called for Queen and Country.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a movie about a British soldier.

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Coming out of the Queen the Country. I remember this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Washington, that British soldier. They of all the black

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 4>actors in England, they went to America and brought Denzel

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 4>Washington to England to play the role of this British soldier.

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 4>So it's cross.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you know the play he plays Steve Beagle too.

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<v Speaker 4>He was, yeah, said he played. So all our African

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 4>heroes have been played by African AMers.

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<v Speaker 5>I see it, right, Harriet Martin, I mean she.

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<v Speaker 4>Did?

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<v Speaker 1>They do the role justice, that's awfu.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where I met with it too. They bodied the ship.

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 4>That's all you got to ask, because that's what you got,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Look, Will Smith played the Nigeria in Horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>You have the miss I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Will Smith. That was horrible, just horrible. Black Panther,

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<v Speaker 4>I love Black Panther.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that movie. But every member of that family

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<v Speaker 4>had a different African accent, different African accents.

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<v Speaker 5>I blame I blame Lou Peter. She should have to

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<v Speaker 5>everybody correctly. I don't know. It's a bad no, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a bad joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's what I'm saying. Look, I tell you a

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<v Speaker 4>little story. When I came to meet Chuck Laurie to

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<v Speaker 4>create Bob hart Saba, I asked them what they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>the African character to be called, and one of the

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<v Speaker 4>guys said Peter, and I was like, okay, hell, here's

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<v Speaker 4>the same. I was like this is why you guys

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<v Speaker 4>need me for one. Peter is Kenyan. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>Nigerian cats. She's Kenyan. Wrong side of Africa, Wrong side

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<v Speaker 4>of Africa too. She was born in Mexico. Her parents,

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<v Speaker 4>for ships and Googles, gave her the name of you Pitera.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty much guarantee there's not another fucking African on the planet.

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<v Speaker 4>So him, let me give your listen like your names,

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<v Speaker 4>let me help you. Lets let's make this authentic, Let's

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<v Speaker 4>make this good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God and thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say I don't I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>want to skip this far into it. But I had

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<v Speaker 2>a friend that used to act on Two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half Men, and I went to set the visit just

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<v Speaker 2>to see, like what the atmosphere was like. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Laurie's shows are. It's the most intense atmosphere I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen as far as the comedy show is concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I never I didn't know he was that hands on.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that every time they break the writers run around,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, give me better punch, likee go, no, you're horrible,

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<v Speaker 2>go you suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never knew it was that cutthroat.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just it's not as bad on our show.

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<v Speaker 4>He's mellowed with age. And also because I'm running the

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<v Speaker 4>show with our Higgins and him, our atmosphere is a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more chill. It's a lot you know, I bought

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<v Speaker 4>black writers in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, well, they need you to make it work, So

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it. But I'm just saying that what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like every time they.

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<v Speaker 4>Take a sitcoms it's the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like every time they take a break, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell what the what the what not the linears,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could tell the order of like the the

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<v Speaker 2>the respected writer versus the newbie, because you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>form a circle around him. And he's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that punchline. Give me some of that works.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and you don't. If you don't nail boilse eye

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<v Speaker 1>with bulls eye with the right punch line, that sucks you.

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<v Speaker 2>You And I'm just seeing like people getting deflated every

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<v Speaker 2>time they don't come with the magic.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 4>Does not suffer fools. Gladly luck, I'm a stand up

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<v Speaker 4>and I came in with that confidence of the stand up,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, not every one of your jokes is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna work. It's the it's the not showing fear when

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't hold. It didn't work because something and these

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<v Speaker 4>guys who just talk incessantly because they're trying desperately to

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<v Speaker 4>impress you just got to be chilled, like he likes

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<v Speaker 4>me because I'm chilling around there. I'm just like, here's

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<v Speaker 4>a joke. Now, that didn't work, Okay, give me a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of minutes. A couple of minutes and that relaxed

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<v Speaker 4>about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I wanted to ask you, because in that

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<v Speaker 2>particular atmosphere, in that particular day that I saw, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know how one can be creative when they're

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<v Speaker 2>they all look like they were like have their heads

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<v Speaker 2>in the guillet gun right exactly. And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how can you come with something creative when you're under

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<v Speaker 2>such duress? And I wanted to know was it like

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<v Speaker 2>that on the set as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Now our Share is a fun set. Before we do

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<v Speaker 4>our run throughs and rehearsals, I put on afrobeats, we dance.

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<v Speaker 4>I put our music Like if you look at my

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<v Speaker 4>stories and stuff, you'll see me and the cast, the crew,

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<v Speaker 4>all of us. We put the music on, we fuck

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<v Speaker 4>it and we dance. I'm like, let's go, let's get

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<v Speaker 4>the energy, just get it's fun. This is fun. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>playing you make the lead like people. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>rocket science, this is not surgery. So I put music on,

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<v Speaker 4>We dance, We have fun, and the writer's room is

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<v Speaker 4>a really nice collaborative feel. And Chuck likes the room

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<v Speaker 4>that we're running. And Chuck comes in and he loves

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<v Speaker 4>coming and hanging with us, and it doesn't feel high pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking. We don't write because the show, if you

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<v Speaker 4>watch Barba Harts having shot, it's not a joke heavy show.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny, and we aim for the funny, but we

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<v Speaker 4>also aim for the real heart, the real story, the

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<v Speaker 4>real three dimensions of all the characters. So it's not

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<v Speaker 4>just jo give me a joke, need to joke right now,

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<v Speaker 4>we need, don't you know, the funny comes. We concentrate.

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<v Speaker 4>Chuck has now taught us, taught us a lot. We

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<v Speaker 4>concentrate on the story, make it real, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>can add in the jokes later. So you know, I've

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<v Speaker 4>learned a lot sincinnat show, but we haven't got that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of high intensity thing going on. We all it's

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<v Speaker 4>a collaborative thing. Everybody works together, we break you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I've had people come up to me

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<v Speaker 4>after the season and go, look, this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best sets I've ever worked on because your energy

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<v Speaker 4>is positive and finally, you keep it light and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not high pressure and we enjoy coming to work. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, if it wasn't desirable, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we would have heard it from you right now

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<v Speaker 2>and your your comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Abe.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a whole routine about how this show came about,

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<v Speaker 4>then finding me on Google all of that. I've got

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<v Speaker 4>a whole routine about it. Chuck has heard it and

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<v Speaker 4>he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, So you know, I also want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>commend you on You know, I know that the rural

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<v Speaker 2>comedy is supposed to be like tragedy plus time equals

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<v Speaker 2>humor or. I guess that's the the formula. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of your subject matters, you somehow find the seriousness

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<v Speaker 2>and things that are like you know that you leave

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<v Speaker 2>nothing no stone unturned, like you talk about sleep app

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you talk about lupus. You know, coming out

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<v Speaker 2>to your family, all these things. How did you? Where

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<v Speaker 2>did you get to the place where it's like, because

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<v Speaker 2>you I think you have to not care in order

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<v Speaker 2>for your world to open up. Like usually if people

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<v Speaker 2>are super guarded and that sort of thing, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to get to the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Where you don't give a shit anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where did where did you reach that level?

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<v Speaker 4>Not that long ago? You know, I wasn't out for

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<v Speaker 4>a very long time because I was like, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>black woman in this industry. I don't look so way,

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<v Speaker 4>like do I really want to give them something else

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<v Speaker 4>to box me in with? So for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>I did not talk about my sexuality at all. I

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<v Speaker 4>avoided the question. I never lied, but I always circumvented

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<v Speaker 4>the questions. They asked the question that but like, I

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<v Speaker 4>was doing this stuff. So at the beginning of my career,

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<v Speaker 4>it helped me because I had to think outside the

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<v Speaker 4>box as far as materials concerned, because when everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>is talking about relationships, so I had to go right,

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<v Speaker 4>let me think of let me me just think of

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<v Speaker 4>other material So it made my materials stand out because

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't one of those women talking about relationships. I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't talking about that stuff. But then after years, it

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<v Speaker 4>was like a straight jacket because I couldn't really open

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<v Speaker 4>up and be completely myself on stage because I was

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<v Speaker 4>holding back a facet of my personality and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really come out till I started touring. I was on

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<v Speaker 4>toy Cat Williams, and I was touring with a young

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Yeah. I was there for the crazy I was

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<v Speaker 4>there on a private jet with Sugar Night. I was

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<v Speaker 4>there for all of that, all that crazy ship that

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<v Speaker 4>was happening. I was there for all of it, all

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<v Speaker 4>of it. But I was on tour. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll come back to that. I was on tour, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was on tour with a young communion called Shauntey

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<v Speaker 4>Wayans who's she's part of the Way Into Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>she's a lesbian comic. And I loved how unapologetic she

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<v Speaker 4>was on stage, and I remember watching her thinking and

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<v Speaker 4>envying her, thinking, that's what you do. Just be on

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<v Speaker 4>stage and be yourself, doesn't matter. And it got to

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<v Speaker 4>the point where you know, I'd done all the things

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm supposed to do, be happy, smiley, non threatening

1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Geena for years to try and get on and it

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't worked, and I was like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just going to do me. I'm going to just do me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just and I didn't make a big dealer

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<v Speaker 4>of coming out. I just slipped a joke in here

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<v Speaker 4>and there, slipped a line in here there. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>make a big deal of it because it's just one

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<v Speaker 4>facet of my personality.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't define you exactly, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It just means that I was completely open and there

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<v Speaker 4>was nothing that I was hiding, and my comedy got better.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that feel like? Having a realization? How did

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<v Speaker 1>it feel so good?

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<v Speaker 4>And I just like why did I wait so long? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I wish I'd done this years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I you know, back, people going, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 4>you know you're black.

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<v Speaker 8>A Williams will desert you because you know, black people

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<v Speaker 8>are homophobing me, and so people are telling me, but

1:09:19.920 --> 1:09:22.720
<v Speaker 8>it is because I'm like, look, I built up a

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<v Speaker 8>reputation of being a really good comic and really funny,

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<v Speaker 8>and so people like me.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if you don't, well, then off you go. For

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<v Speaker 4>every one person I lose, I gain another five. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I wish I'd done it years ago. But yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm glad I did. But as for Kat Williams, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on tour twenty twelve, and you know, Cat

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most generous, giving, supportive people, smartest people

1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but if you watch.

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<v Speaker 4>His comedy take Out all the Motherfuckers, the guy is

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<v Speaker 4>a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat is brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. I tell you, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 3>just let the pimp shit get in the way.

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<v Speaker 4>But that if you key away all of that highly

1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:13.360
<v Speaker 4>intelligent man. Hi, we had wonderful conversations, but I have

1:10:13.439 --> 1:10:18.480
<v Speaker 4>wonderful conversations. And the next day he was like, hey,

1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.040
<v Speaker 4>he was so I was like, I don't know what's

1:10:21.040 --> 1:10:23.760
<v Speaker 4>getting on, but you know, I just he respected me

1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:26.880
<v Speaker 4>because again I didn't kiss ass. I didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I was on that tour. We shouldn't you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was left on stage doing hour and a half

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<v Speaker 4>sets because he I tell you, I'll tell you one story, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>encapsulate a craziness.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the time did you have an hour and

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<v Speaker 3>a half did you have okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it just proud work or okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I've been in comedies since ninety six.

1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:50.439
<v Speaker 5>I already had the Queen in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd already shot two specials, so yeah, gotcha how it

1:10:54.640 --> 1:10:57.960
<v Speaker 4>was here? Let me tell your story, encapsulate the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm on tour, I mean, very generous the first

1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:03.639
<v Speaker 4>time Cats taking me on tour, and he calls me out,

1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:06.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, the first time I met Cat. I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>New York. It's the New York Comedy Festival. Cat is

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<v Speaker 4>appearing at the Carnigie Hall, sold out, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>just to watch the show because my friend Will Sylvins

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<v Speaker 4>was opening for him. So I'm turning up at the theater.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm about to walk in the front to watch the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Will Sylvants calls me where are you? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm about to walk in the theater and take my seat.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, come out to the stage door. So come

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<v Speaker 4>aroun to the stage door and they go, Cat's not here.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been arrested on the way to the show. So

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<v Speaker 4>can you go up and do twenty minutes? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>canniegi who fuck?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So Will went on did his time. Then I went

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<v Speaker 4>on and did mine and killed and being towards the

1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:46.880
<v Speaker 4>end of my set, Cat Williams had been released by

1:11:46.920 --> 1:11:49.479
<v Speaker 4>the police, and he made it in caught the end

1:11:49.479 --> 1:11:52.040
<v Speaker 4>of my set, and afterwards he was like, I like you,

1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take you on tour and I was like, yeah, yeah,

1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I've had that shit before whatever. And I was visiting

1:11:57.320 --> 1:11:59.280
<v Speaker 4>New York from LA so I was staying at Will's house.

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<v Speaker 4>Next day, I get a call from the woman who

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<v Speaker 4>books Cat shows and she's like, so, Gina, you did

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<v Speaker 4>color you for Cat? Cat me like you. He wants

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<v Speaker 4>to take you. He's doing what's that place in Jersey

1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:19.519
<v Speaker 4>that's supposed to be like Vegas but it's not. He goes,

1:12:19.600 --> 1:12:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Cat's doing Atlantic City tonight. He wants you to open

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<v Speaker 4>for him. How much did they pay you for Carnegie Hall? Now,

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't pay me a penny. I just went up

1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:30.680
<v Speaker 4>and did twenty minutes, but I wen't going to say that,

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<v Speaker 4>so I was like two thousand dollars and she goes, done,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see you tonight and a car Mercedes turned out

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<v Speaker 4>twenty and I was like fuck, I should have said

1:12:40.320 --> 1:12:46.080
<v Speaker 4>eight anyway. So the car picked me up and took

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<v Speaker 4>me to Atlantic City and I opened for Cat at

1:12:48.640 --> 1:12:53.519
<v Speaker 4>Atlantic City and he's he's backstage. Was like a scene

1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:55.479
<v Speaker 4>out of New Jack City. Remember when they had the

1:12:55.600 --> 1:12:59.080
<v Speaker 4>naked girls just counting money. Yeah, that's because Cat used

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<v Speaker 4>to insist that you go get the cash from the

1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:04.360
<v Speaker 4>box office and pay him. So they used to have

1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:06.479
<v Speaker 4>to get box up then we can and so all

1:13:06.520 --> 1:13:08.280
<v Speaker 4>these girls will be just there just counting all these

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<v Speaker 4>money and go bitch, Paig and just come over.

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<v Speaker 1>Scene.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah yeah with the milk titties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>They He paid me cash and then he just he

1:13:31.439 --> 1:13:33.640
<v Speaker 4>said I'm going to take you on tour, and I

1:13:33.840 --> 1:13:36.800
<v Speaker 4>was like, betts. So he calls me up. Cat calls

1:13:36.800 --> 1:13:39.439
<v Speaker 4>me up and he goes, Okay, so I'm going to

1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:41.360
<v Speaker 4>take you on tour. I've got a hundred books around,

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<v Speaker 4>book to the country. We're going to make a load

1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:45.320
<v Speaker 4>of money. How much do you get paid? So I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I was like ah, So I was thinking

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<v Speaker 4>if I say three thousand, he will knock me down

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<v Speaker 4>to two. I'll get two grander show one hundred shows sets.

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<v Speaker 4>I go three thousand, and Cat goes, I'll give you five.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see you next on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like what.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I first met up with Cat on the tour,

1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:08.760
<v Speaker 4>I says I asked for three. Why would you get

1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Why did you say you give me five? And he goes,

1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:13.519
<v Speaker 4>because I know you how good you are, because I

1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:15.960
<v Speaker 4>know how good, know you're worth, do know your work.

1:14:16.080 --> 1:14:18.360
<v Speaker 4>You're worth more than that, and you're better than that.

1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:22.680
<v Speaker 4>And he paid me five thousand shows. Now I was like, oh,

1:14:22.760 --> 1:14:25.040
<v Speaker 4>my days, one hundred shows. I don't like half a

1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:27.880
<v Speaker 4>billion dollars. But after that first show, I was like, oh,

1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:29.280
<v Speaker 4>we're not going to make it to three shows.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was sure was sure night touring was he?

1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:38.600
<v Speaker 4>He was, yeah, sure the night was touring with that.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me tell you this quick story. So first

1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:44.200
<v Speaker 4>night we're in Denver, we do the show, packed out,

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<v Speaker 4>do the show, I do my set, I kill have fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Short as I said, it's great. Cat goes on and

1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:52.400
<v Speaker 4>it's a crazy show. Put it that way. It was

1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:56.240
<v Speaker 4>when he was not having good shows, didn't go well,

1:14:57.760 --> 1:15:02.680
<v Speaker 4>go backstage and he goes to the promoter, go the

1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:05.240
<v Speaker 4>live Nation was was doing the show. And he goes

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<v Speaker 4>to the promote, go go get my money, and they're going, look,

1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:10.200
<v Speaker 4>people are walking out and they're demanding their money back,

1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:12.519
<v Speaker 4>so we can't give you the money. And I'm like

1:15:13.439 --> 1:15:16.120
<v Speaker 4>and and Cat's like, go get my motherfucking money. And

1:15:16.160 --> 1:15:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh God, back to go. And I turned

1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.639
<v Speaker 4>around and I don't even know what happened. I turned

1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:23.000
<v Speaker 4>around and I just hear and I turned back and

1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the Live Nation guys on the floor and I'm like,

1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:26.759
<v Speaker 4>oh god, I gotta get out here. I gotta get.

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<v Speaker 5>The way.

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<v Speaker 4>The Live Nation guy got punched in the face. I'm

1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:33.439
<v Speaker 4>not gonna say you did it. I didn't see it.

1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:34.120
<v Speaker 4>I turned around.

1:15:34.160 --> 1:15:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I just heard a noise and then and then you

1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:37.080
<v Speaker 1>saw he was on the ground.

1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:39.400
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, oh god, this is crazy. This

1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:41.439
<v Speaker 4>is this tour is not I'm not gonna make half

1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:42.400
<v Speaker 4>a million dollars.

1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:45.120
<v Speaker 5>But they can't get but they can't get his money.

1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:51.200
<v Speaker 4>That night, oh he got his money. So that so

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<v Speaker 4>that was the next day. The day that was Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>The next day we're supposed to be in Sacramento. So

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<v Speaker 4>they go right me, it's all in the love be

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<v Speaker 4>at nine am, the plane will get on the plane,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll go to the Sacramento Cool. We're in the lobby

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<v Speaker 4>nine am, ten am, eleven am, twelve pm. One We're

1:16:09.880 --> 1:16:11.400
<v Speaker 4>all just sitting in the lobby for hours and I'm like,

1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:15.519
<v Speaker 4>where's Cat, what's going on? So I'm like, I go

1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:18.360
<v Speaker 4>up to these I just knocking it off. Yo, Cat,

1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:20.800
<v Speaker 4>We've been down there for four hours. What's happening right?

1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.600
<v Speaker 4>No way, we'll be down to So he sent me

1:16:23.800 --> 1:16:26.640
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, what is going on? Anyway? I was like,

1:16:26.760 --> 1:16:28.360
<v Speaker 4>am we going to miss these flights? And the woman

1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:30.599
<v Speaker 4>who's booking the show's like, oh no, it's a private jet.

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<v Speaker 4>They're waiting for us on the runway. Anyway. They charged

1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Cat thirty thousand dollars in late fees. I remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>We get to the runway, so we all get in

1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:42.320
<v Speaker 4>a convoy, you know, they put our luggage in all

1:16:42.360 --> 1:16:45.840
<v Speaker 4>the cars. We all go to the runway where the

1:16:46.160 --> 1:16:48.200
<v Speaker 4>jet is waking waiting. We get on the jet. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>on the jet with sub Night, Bishop Magic Don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Want is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1:16:53.800 --> 1:16:53.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Green is for the money, goal is for the honey.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the jet with them and cats kids and

1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:04.080
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of other people. And everybody's like, where's Cat,

1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:04.599
<v Speaker 4>Where's Cat?

1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Why is it?

1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:06.479
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, he was in a car just

1:17:06.560 --> 1:17:09.200
<v Speaker 4>behind us, So I don't know where's Cat. This was

1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:11.040
<v Speaker 4>at four o'clock in the afternoon at this point the

1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:13.559
<v Speaker 4>show and Sacramento was in seven. At seven, we are

1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:18.320
<v Speaker 4>in Denver, Oh, show's the Sacramento. I go where we go?

1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:22.120
<v Speaker 4>Where Cat? Where's Cat? Where's Cat? Cat has decided he's

1:17:22.160 --> 1:17:27.640
<v Speaker 4>going to drive, Oh, from Denver to Sacramento. So I'm like,

1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:31.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe I don't know America that well, Hell on Google,

1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:34.719
<v Speaker 4>how long does it take to drive?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing that right now from.

1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Denver to sacrament And I remember it going that. It

1:17:41.720 --> 1:17:44.080
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, it will be nineteen hours or something

1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:45.800
<v Speaker 4>like that, and I was like, we're not gonna make

1:17:45.800 --> 1:17:47.200
<v Speaker 4>the show. It's fo o'clock the shows and seventh what

1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:49.960
<v Speaker 4>is So we sat on the wrong way, everybody trying

1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:51.120
<v Speaker 4>to get hold of Cats. So in the end, the

1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:55.479
<v Speaker 4>pilot goes, listen, we gotta go otherwise, this flight is done.

1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:57.920
<v Speaker 4>We got to take off. So we take off with

1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:03.719
<v Speaker 4>that cat and we had to divert the plane halfway

1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.240
<v Speaker 4>through the journey to go pick up Cat in the

1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:09.040
<v Speaker 4>middle of the desert somewhere. We had to divert the

1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:13.680
<v Speaker 4>plane and land and pick up Cat gets on the

1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:15.800
<v Speaker 4>plane and he's furious to us. I don't know what

1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:17.720
<v Speaker 4>was going on. He gots on the plane like you

1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:20.639
<v Speaker 4>might go fuck it and just cursing, and I'm sitting

1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:22.880
<v Speaker 4>there like, what the hell is, what the hell is

1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:23.160
<v Speaker 4>going on?

1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:26.360
<v Speaker 1>What is going on right now? To make it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So we get to we get to Sancramento. We

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<v Speaker 4>are two hours late for the show.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>John Witherspoon, God bless him, God rest his soul, was

1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:39.400
<v Speaker 4>also on the tour. But John Witherspoon had learned early

1:18:39.479 --> 1:18:41.160
<v Speaker 4>on in the tour You're not to get on a

1:18:41.200 --> 1:18:43.479
<v Speaker 4>plane with Cat. He was like, I'll get my own

1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:45.920
<v Speaker 4>jet there, I'll meet you at the gig. So John

1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:49.639
<v Speaker 4>was already at the gig. But unfortunately they told John, Oh, yeah,

1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:50.479
<v Speaker 4>Cat's on his way.

1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Just go on stage stretch. Oh E been on.

1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:56.720
<v Speaker 4>Stage two hours when we got there. When we got there,

1:18:56.920 --> 1:19:01.479
<v Speaker 4>my god, poor mister Witherspoon had swept through his entire

1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:06.479
<v Speaker 4>suit him. I was staged in two hours. And when

1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:08.479
<v Speaker 4>we got there, he had two girls on stage doing

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<v Speaker 4>a dance competition because he'd run out of jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>He came up and oh my god, Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Bury in mind, my stuff was still in a convoy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I had to go on stage at this theater

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<v Speaker 4>to ten thousand people wearing a T shirt. No bra,

1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:32.200
<v Speaker 4>jeans and flip flops because my clothes were still in

1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:36.080
<v Speaker 4>a convoy driving halfway across the country somewhere. So that

1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.000
<v Speaker 4>was the second night. So I was like, oh, this

1:19:38.160 --> 1:19:40.679
<v Speaker 4>isn't work. After every night they paid me my five

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<v Speaker 4>thousand cash. So at one point I did three shows,

1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.879
<v Speaker 4>I had fifteen thousand dollars, and I was like, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>I any boys. I don't. I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 4>come at my hotel women in the middle of the

1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:53.559
<v Speaker 4>night and dangle me out the window for this money.

1:19:54.040 --> 1:19:55.760
<v Speaker 4>So as soon as we got to the next time,

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<v Speaker 4>I run straight to the chase, like can I put

1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:00.760
<v Speaker 4>this money in the And they're all looking at me

1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:02.720
<v Speaker 4>like I'm a drunk dealer because I've got a private cat.

1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:07.840
<v Speaker 4>I can I pay this in please? And they were

1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.439
<v Speaker 4>looking at me like and they counting the money, just

1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:13.639
<v Speaker 4>looking at me sideways. But yeah, it was a crazy tour,

1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:16.360
<v Speaker 4>you know. I was there in Seattle. The next night

1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:20.120
<v Speaker 4>was in Seattle again, Kat got arrested on the way

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<v Speaker 4>to the show, so I will Sae. Vince did an

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<v Speaker 4>hour set. I did an hour set. John Witherspoon did

1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:29.200
<v Speaker 4>an hour set, and by three hours in the crowd

1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:33.839
<v Speaker 4>is like, what is it? Yeah, and the crowd started

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<v Speaker 4>to destroy the theater like it was a beautiful theater.

1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:39.720
<v Speaker 4>And see how the crowd went mad because arrested on

1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.560
<v Speaker 4>the way. It was crazy. And the next day we

1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:43.519
<v Speaker 4>were supposed to be in.

1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Texas and who routed this tour?

1:20:49.600 --> 1:20:52.439
<v Speaker 4>We were in Texas the next day ten thousand people

1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:56.040
<v Speaker 4>sold out. The people who ran the the the venue

1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:59.640
<v Speaker 4>were like, we ain't opening these doors until we know

1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:02.800
<v Speaker 4>that the cat is in the city, because we heard

1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:05.360
<v Speaker 4>about what happened in Yeat, we heard about what happened

1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:08.639
<v Speaker 4>in Sacramento. We ain't opening these doors. And the tour

1:21:08.720 --> 1:21:11.760
<v Speaker 4>manager's like, oh no, no, cat's on these ways. But

1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:15.240
<v Speaker 4>the cat is still in freaking kat is still in California.

1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:18.599
<v Speaker 4>He ain't even left it. They're like, no, he's checked

1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:21.040
<v Speaker 4>into a hotel and the guy's like, no, he hasn't,

1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:22.760
<v Speaker 4>because we called all the hotels in the area and

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<v Speaker 4>he's not there, so we ain't. In fact, if he

1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:28.160
<v Speaker 4>ain't here by seven o'clock, we're cancling the show. And

1:21:28.280 --> 1:21:30.280
<v Speaker 4>obviously he was never going to they canceled the show.

1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Ten thousand people outside. They canceled the show. So John

1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:39.479
<v Speaker 4>Riversprey at this point was like I'm out, I'm out,

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<v Speaker 4>and he got on a plane and he went back home,

1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:44.240
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, well, my flight home was booked

1:21:44.320 --> 1:21:46.439
<v Speaker 4>from the next sea, so I had to get on

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.640
<v Speaker 4>the tour bus and go to the next sea. And

1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:52.360
<v Speaker 4>obviously cat never just turned it just didn't turn up.

1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:54.640
<v Speaker 4>And then I just got a plane and went back to.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I did five shows. I was paid for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's how he was in.

1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:05.599
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, he paid me more for those

1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:07.920
<v Speaker 4>shows than I'd asked than i'd ask for, So as

1:22:07.960 --> 1:22:10.880
<v Speaker 4>far as I'm concerned, he didn't know me nothing. Because

1:22:10.880 --> 1:22:13.320
<v Speaker 4>I'd asked the three expected to he paid me five.

1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he's crazy like that, you know, can't once

1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>chased me on a dirt bike. I was driving my car.

1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>We did a show. Do you remember the show we

1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>did with Lauren Hill for like the BET Awards, like

1:22:27.160 --> 1:22:31.639
<v Speaker 2>the BT Awards weekend. It was like Lauren, I forget

1:22:31.680 --> 1:22:34.920
<v Speaker 2>who it was, but this this guy kept trying to

1:22:35.040 --> 1:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought he's trying to car jack me or something.

1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:41.360
<v Speaker 2>And the last thing I was expecting was and it

1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>was like those you know the bicycles where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>an adult tricycle.

1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, the cord blind things.

1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had like an adult tricycle. It was scary.

1:22:51.680 --> 1:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>One of dude roll up on you right, And I

1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:54.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, I.

1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Was near skid Row, Like we were leaving the Staples Centers,

1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:58.599
<v Speaker 2>but you know, like skid Row's near there.

1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I thought. Was he kept now it's

1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like it's Cat Williams nigga And I was like aicycle. Yeah,

1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>he hit my cat story. I met Cat one time.

1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I met Cat. Yeah, there's yo, everyone, dude. I met

1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>him once.

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was at the We did a show and uh,

1:23:17.040 --> 1:23:18.760
<v Speaker 3>this is a House of Blues back you know when

1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:21.280
<v Speaker 3>House of Blues in La on sunset and it was

1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:23.880
<v Speaker 3>like us. I think, like us dolated people's quality and

1:23:24.000 --> 1:23:26.080
<v Speaker 3>like some other people and uh a little brother, I

1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>think we will be like first or second going whatever.

1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:29.640
<v Speaker 3>But we did the show and it was dope and

1:23:29.720 --> 1:23:31.519
<v Speaker 3>went off and so afterwards we went up to like

1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:34.600
<v Speaker 3>the little area where they were just having drinks and

1:23:34.680 --> 1:23:37.680
<v Speaker 3>just kind of social area and Cat is there and

1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:39.640
<v Speaker 3>he just comes up to me and like, you know,

1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's his people's wedding.

1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yo, it's Cat whatever, you know, he loved

1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the show whatever. I'm like, oh, this is dope's up.

1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So I just walk up to way. What's uthing, man?

1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>He gets it to me, leans in.

1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:52.200
<v Speaker 3>He's like, when Obama get in office, the people's gonna

1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:55.479
<v Speaker 3>be looking for something different and they're gonna be wanting

1:23:55.600 --> 1:23:58.200
<v Speaker 3>something new, and y'all are gonna be part of that

1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:01.479
<v Speaker 3>something new and up until the time when you really

1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:04.360
<v Speaker 3>take off. If you need twenty thirty g's just to

1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:08.760
<v Speaker 3>put in your pockets, you come holler at me. I

1:24:08.960 --> 1:24:11.240
<v Speaker 3>was like, what the fuck is So then he calls

1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:14.040
<v Speaker 3>his girl, Alwa's like get my number. What So I'm

1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:15.640
<v Speaker 3>just talking to this girl like I don't know who

1:24:15.720 --> 1:24:17.360
<v Speaker 3>she is. I'm just like okay, I don't.

1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Wait and bro, that's what he said. And I was

1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>like okay.

1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:24.040
<v Speaker 3>And he gave me well, I mean, he didn't give

1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 3>me like no money, but she gave me a number

1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:27.439
<v Speaker 3>and I gave her number to my manager at the time,

1:24:27.520 --> 1:24:28.639
<v Speaker 3>and I just walked away.

1:24:28.680 --> 1:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, Okay, I don't know what.

1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:32.559
<v Speaker 4>That was, but that's what he does. He's set at

1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:34.639
<v Speaker 4>the back of comedy clubs and if he liked your set,

1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:36.720
<v Speaker 4>he'd call you over and go. Whatever I got in

1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:40.360
<v Speaker 4>my pocket is yours? Just money? Wow, that's another time

1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 4>I met him. I didn't show and he just called

1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:43.160
<v Speaker 4>me over and he's like, where did I got my

1:24:43.200 --> 1:24:45.280
<v Speaker 4>money in my pucket? He took out five hundred dollars

1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:46.680
<v Speaker 4>and just gave it to me. That's what he used

1:24:46.680 --> 1:24:46.840
<v Speaker 4>to do.

1:24:48.280 --> 1:24:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Look, he's a and he was right about your future.

1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:51.720
<v Speaker 5>How about this?

1:24:51.920 --> 1:24:56.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, he saw it. He saw whatever they said about.

1:24:56.479 --> 1:25:01.439
<v Speaker 4>He's a good dude, a genius comic, genius comics, one

1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:06.040
<v Speaker 4>of the best comics working today, without a doubt, just

1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:08.280
<v Speaker 4>one of the best and a good dude. His heart

1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:12.439
<v Speaker 4>is good. He's crazy, but hot heart is good.

1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:15.320
<v Speaker 3>My question was totally I say mine for last because

1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.040
<v Speaker 3>it's a totally kind of off beat question, but I'll

1:25:17.120 --> 1:25:17.400
<v Speaker 3>let you go.

1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>No.

1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to not like what what comedians do

1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you enjoy working with? Or who do you not even

1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>working with? Like who do you laugh at? Like who's

1:25:27.200 --> 1:25:27.679
<v Speaker 2>your favorite?

1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, there are so many I works general, too general

1:25:32.160 --> 1:25:32.759
<v Speaker 1>to ask.

1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:35.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, obviously, the the usual suspects. For I like

1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:38.320
<v Speaker 4>to name comics that people might never have at off

1:25:38.439 --> 1:25:43.000
<v Speaker 4>please do like there's a comedian called Erin Jackson. Okay,

1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:47.400
<v Speaker 4>ye finding black woman Hilo, and she just did one

1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:51.920
<v Speaker 4>of Tiffany's specials. Okay, I gotta give Tiffany a shout out,

1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:56.599
<v Speaker 4>like she bringing people through, like she's money. She put

1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:59.760
<v Speaker 4>her own money in to make these specials, to make

1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:02.240
<v Speaker 4>sure that everybody got paid properly. She put her own

1:26:02.880 --> 1:26:05.920
<v Speaker 4>money in. That's what I'm talking about. She's bringing people through.

1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, a lot of people make it and

1:26:07.760 --> 1:26:10.719
<v Speaker 4>they just don't really go back to pull the others forward,

1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:13.479
<v Speaker 4>pull others up with them. Tiffany is not that person.

1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:16.920
<v Speaker 4>She goes back and she goes so, you know, shout

1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:19.439
<v Speaker 4>out to Tiffany. She's a she's a diamond. But yeah,

1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Eron Jackson hilarious. Young comedian called Joe L. Johnson hilarious.

1:26:25.720 --> 1:26:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Like there's a lot of black women are out there

1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.960
<v Speaker 4>just doing good things and they need breaks. There's so

1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:32.960
<v Speaker 4>many good ones out there, So I like to name,

1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:33.600
<v Speaker 4>I like.

1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:37.479
<v Speaker 5>To name, but look z Way and my sister got

1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:38.360
<v Speaker 5>the comedy special.

1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, we're all out. They're doing it. We're

1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:43.719
<v Speaker 4>all out, they're doing it. But yeah, these are comics

1:26:43.760 --> 1:26:46.040
<v Speaker 4>that should be getting you know, I'm glad Eron got

1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:49.519
<v Speaker 4>her specials, she got her shine. But yeah, it's a

1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:52.000
<v Speaker 4>long time in this business. We need more, we need

1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:55.560
<v Speaker 4>more like that. I could name the usual suspects, but

1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:57.160
<v Speaker 4>that's boring. Everybody names the same.

1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>All right. So now you know now that the the

1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>book is out there and.

1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:07.320
<v Speaker 4>Handed, please buy it. It's out today, Yes, it's out.

1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:09.679
<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, it's a good book.

1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you hope to option it for movie

1:27:13.960 --> 1:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>rights to do your life story.

1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Or absolutely there are crazy stories in there. I've led

1:27:21.200 --> 1:27:23.639
<v Speaker 4>a life and I've had a journey and I definitely

1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:25.240
<v Speaker 4>want to option it serialization.

1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>So so what so my question, what American actress plays

1:27:30.000 --> 1:27:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Gina Yashia in your movie?

1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Who would you cast to play you?

1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Cynthia Rivo?

1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, check it, yeah, check it. This

1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>might be an unpopular opinion. Arisa loved her and that

1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Aretha John For me, the only thing, yeah, it was

1:27:53.920 --> 1:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the only that the Retha joint. I loved it.

1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:58.880
<v Speaker 3>The only place where it fell apart was the singing,

1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and not because simply can't sing. Like I thought they

1:28:01.960 --> 1:28:03.439
<v Speaker 3>should have pulled the ray but I don't know if

1:28:03.439 --> 1:28:04.559
<v Speaker 3>they had rights to the music.

1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>But where they don't think.

1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the family were not. They didn't give permissions, so

1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:15.160
<v Speaker 4>they couldn't get all the guy the famous for songs.

1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:17.640
<v Speaker 4>She let it go.

1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:23.880
<v Speaker 1>She killed that role. I thought she did. Everybody showed up. Yeah, okay,

1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:27.559
<v Speaker 1>gen a black britg Yeah, yeah, who see Privo.

1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:33.200
<v Speaker 3>That's who plays Gina on the Lifetime special, the Lifetime

1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:35.880
<v Speaker 3>version of it, A cutter version of me.

1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:41.280
<v Speaker 3>So this is a question I need to know for

1:28:42.000 --> 1:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>as black brid it's very it's rare that we get

1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>like black Brits on this show.

1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So this is this is a question.

1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:50.839
<v Speaker 3>I just asked, what, in your opinion is the greatest

1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Black British song? And why is it Return of the Mac.

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<v Speaker 1>The show's over.

1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:12.120
<v Speaker 5>Yo on Tuesday, Yet let's talk come on the other day.

1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I was watching some movie some TV shows and they used.

1:29:15.800 --> 1:29:18.000
<v Speaker 9>It and I was like, it was it might have

1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:23.360
<v Speaker 9>been it was a girl of I was like, what

1:29:23.560 --> 1:29:25.400
<v Speaker 9>was that song like in Europe? Like what was it

1:29:25.520 --> 1:29:25.920
<v Speaker 9>going off?

1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:26.080
<v Speaker 7>Like?

1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:28.880
<v Speaker 4>He was about to be a big star. He was

1:29:28.920 --> 1:29:30.360
<v Speaker 4>about to be a big star and then he just

1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:34.320
<v Speaker 4>like getting and the press started turning against him and

1:29:34.479 --> 1:29:36.680
<v Speaker 4>his career disappeared. But he was he was gonna be

1:29:36.720 --> 1:29:38.800
<v Speaker 4>a fixed. People were singing that song. He was huge.

1:29:39.000 --> 1:29:39.720
<v Speaker 10>It was a big song.

1:29:39.800 --> 1:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I love im still saying that song.

1:29:41.720 --> 1:29:41.880
<v Speaker 6>I was.

1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:46.599
<v Speaker 1>I was a first hand witness to that song working. Yeah,

1:29:47.800 --> 1:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was first hand witness.

1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>But I think he kept like trying to I think

1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in ninety five the thing was sort of like, I

1:29:58.080 --> 1:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>gotta get more pressed by being more thanks. I always

1:30:01.240 --> 1:30:03.679
<v Speaker 2>felt like all those arrests that he was getting into.

1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:08.439
<v Speaker 4>It was like on purpose just to yeah, and no

1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>career because the press turned against him and that was

1:30:10.400 --> 1:30:12.720
<v Speaker 4>the end of that. It was stupid. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know where it is now. And you got me with it.

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<v Speaker 5>You got me with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to find Mark Morrison. Well, we thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the show so much fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Congratulations, congratulations are some extra freedom. I know you ain't

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<v Speaker 6>totally free, but you've seen freer than most. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>And I want to come up that podcast with Jewe

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<v Speaker 6>Scott too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you Scott, all right, I'm going you on

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that love Jiel Scott. I met her once

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<v Speaker 4>and she gave me a number and I lost that

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<v Speaker 4>some mad. I was at the BET Awards in two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and eight and I was doing red carpet stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and they her people tried to drag that past me

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, no, you ain't, Jill Scott. I

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<v Speaker 4>come all away from England to this kip. You better

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<v Speaker 4>walk past me on this head carpet. And then she

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<v Speaker 4>came back and she was like a little girl from

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<v Speaker 4>the comedy Javel. I was like yes, and she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're funny, and I was like yeah. And then she

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<v Speaker 4>performed later on in the evening and it was for

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<v Speaker 4>all these BT executives and they were being all too

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<v Speaker 4>cool for school, like sitting there taking and I got

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<v Speaker 4>up and I was dancing and mouthing all the words

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<v Speaker 4>to her songs and she was like, yank you, and

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<v Speaker 4>she was like, here's my number if you ever needed

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<v Speaker 4>anything cooling, and then that fucking fun crush and I

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<v Speaker 4>never got in touch with your Scott and I was

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<v Speaker 4>so mad at myself.

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<v Speaker 5>So tell her that it's done on the show. You

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<v Speaker 5>got a book there, It's done, It's done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for coming on the show on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of Team Supreme, fran Tikeolo and Sugar Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Gina, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>That there it is, and this is this question that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you on the next go around, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme. Thank you, yoh, what's up?

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