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Speaker 1: the wizard of Weird. This is Strange Warren. I am

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Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, and each week on this show, I'll

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Speaker 1: be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises,

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Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a

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Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the show. Where do

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Speaker 1: you go when you dream? You know? Recently I posted

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Speaker 1: an amazing picture on my Twitter account and that's just

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Speaker 1: member of Twitter, you can just type in my name,

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Speaker 1: do a search for my name and Twitter and you'll

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Speaker 1: find pictures I posted there. This is a photograph that

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Speaker 1: was taken by NASA in nine war in outer space

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Speaker 1: from a space shuttle above Earth, and uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful color photo. And let me try to describe it

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Speaker 1: for you if you haven't seen it. So basically, the

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Speaker 1: bottom half of this photo shows a large portion of

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Speaker 1: the Earth from space. Okay, it's stretching all the way

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Speaker 1: uh that's striking, glowing blue aura all around it. And

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Speaker 1: then the top half of the photograph is just blackness,

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Speaker 1: the blackness of space. I don't know, if you've ever

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Speaker 1: before people had cell phones and all that, let me

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Speaker 1: tell you that that was as dark as it could get.

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Speaker 1: So talk about a contrast. Here the bottom of this

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Speaker 1: there's a slice of the Earth. The top of it

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Speaker 1: the infinite blackness of space. But right there in the

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Speaker 1: middle of that blackness is kind of a little white speck.

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Speaker 1: And if you look closer, you'll realize that that little

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Speaker 1: white speck way out there is an astronaut all by himself,

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Speaker 1: just floating way out there, not connected to anything. And

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Speaker 1: the caption says perhaps the most terrifying space photograph around

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Speaker 1: astronaut Bruce McCandless, the second floats untethered away from the

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Speaker 1: safety of the Space Shuttle, with nothing but his manned

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Speaker 1: maneuvering unit keeping him alive, the first person in history

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Speaker 1: to do so. So. This astronaut, when you start looking closely,

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Speaker 1: he's using to sort of propel him to blow out

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Speaker 1: gas here and there, and if that thing stops working, well,

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Speaker 1: there's no way of rescuing him. That man, Bruce McCandless

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Speaker 1: was forty seven years old when he did that, and

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Speaker 1: can you imagine putting yourself in that position. Here is

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Speaker 1: how he described this experience. He said, quote, I was

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Speaker 1: grossly overtrained. I was just anxious to get out there

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Speaker 1: quiet vacuum you experience in space, but with three radio

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Speaker 1: get to that point. So you see how that NASA

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Speaker 1: psychologically prepares these astronauts to do these insane things. They

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Speaker 1: just condition them and condition them and condition them until

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Speaker 1: finally they put them in these unbelievable positions. But it's

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Speaker 1: there's they have so much to do and so much

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Speaker 1: in the moment they're taking it. They're just staying on course.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good thing, I guess, because otherwise people

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Speaker 1: this question about like, well, what exactly does happen to

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Speaker 1: just freeze? Would you mummify? Would you slowly rot? You

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Speaker 1: know what? So I found this article. I figured i'd

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Speaker 1: share it with you and you'll see in a minute

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Speaker 1: why I'm bringing up this this story in relation to

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Speaker 1: my topic. But it says, you know, it depends on

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Speaker 1: the circumstances. This is from science ABC dot com. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of this article and it says, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the most basic scenario of dying in space, let's

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Speaker 1: just say you get simply jettisoned out of a spacecraft

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Speaker 1: without a space suit. Well, first of all, you would

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Speaker 1: have between fifteen seconds and two minutes to live. That

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Speaker 1: lot of experiments with vacuum chambers, and if you put

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Speaker 1: but almost instantly the cosmic radiation would begin to burn

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Speaker 1: result of suffocation. Says now, a dead body on Earth

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Speaker 1: where do you go when you dream? Well, that's because

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Speaker 1: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren,

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Speaker 1: beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio and Sin City,

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden and every

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Speaker 1: the Wikipedia definition of dream, it says a dream is

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Speaker 1: a secession of images, ideas, emotions, and sensations that usually

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Speaker 1: Humans spend about two hours dreaming per night, and each

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Speaker 1: We are scientifically from understanding the mind, not necessarily the brain,

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Speaker 1: Many of these things, like seeing a ghost. People say

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Speaker 1: and everything can seem ancient because that time itself is meaningless.

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00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Once you are removed from the point of view of

431
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: the human body, time itself is meaningless, and you can

432
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: feel the the infinity of the history of this place

433
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: this dimension, this world that you are visiting. And that

434
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: is why sometimes I feel like I'm in another land

435
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: and it's full of people and events and music and

436
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: culture that I could never possibly invent on my own.

437
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm witnessing something. I'm not creating it. I'm witnessing another place.

438
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: And when we go to these other places, it is

439
00:31:51,840 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: possible that we may even appear there as ghosts to them,

440
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: just as when they lay down to sleep and they

441
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: slip around in these realities, maybe they sometimes pop up

442
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: here as ghosts to us. We sort of visit each other,

443
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: and you're taking some risks when you get out like

444
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I do sometimes and just fly around and see what happens. Now, look,

445
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: this is my feeling on what happens again. Three things. One,

446
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: you're well. First off, your body lifts your spirit lists

447
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: from your body and it's and by doing so, the

448
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: three things are your body hills itself. Number two, your

449
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: your your mind and spirit downloads of processes, everything that

450
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: gets stored into again something like the acoustic record number three. Well,

451
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: in the meantime, your consciousness gets to float around out

452
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: there and have some adventures and get into mischief, and

453
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: it can be good or bad. And then when the

454
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: process is over, if your body doesn't get totally separated,

455
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: then there's still something connecting you there. People talk about

456
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: a silver cord or something like that. I have never

457
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: seen a silver cord myself, but I've always felt like

458
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I was somehow still connected to the body. And then

459
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: you can snap back into the body. Uh. If you

460
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: have had similar experiences, maybe you can relate to that.

461
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you can relate to it. But I think especially

462
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: this idea that space and time is flexible is important

463
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: because we are able to experience that in a more

464
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: direct and genuine, organic way when we are not looking

465
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: at it from the perspective of the physical human existence

466
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: and when it comes to life and being of h

467
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: a flexible perspective, or i' let me put it this way,

468
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to life being able to experience the

469
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: flexibility of space time. That's why I believe we're going

470
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: to see more and more and more of these kinds

471
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: of portals at certain places, and we might even create

472
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: certain portals at certain places here around around the world.

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00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: And in fact, you know, my friend Ben Pavalan who

474
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: is with Chicago ghost Hunters group, he um, you know,

475
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: I met him years ago when I was going to

476
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Chicago doing speaking engagements. He recently came here and visited

477
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: me in Las Vegas, and uh, Lauren and I we

478
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: went out with him, and you know, we we had

479
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: a lot of fun and um, we just we ended

480
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: up staying out about all night, so didn't I didn't

481
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: feel so great the next day. But nonetheless, while he

482
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: was here, Ben, who is just he's like me. You know,

483
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: He's one of these guys. He he loves to experiment

484
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: with technology. He's got like Tesla coils and vandergraph generators,

485
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: and he has this very scientific mindset. But he also

486
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: is into like metaphysics and philosophy and fringe topics and

487
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, we we You should hear some of the

488
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: conversations we have. He hooked up with Jason Saracchi, and

489
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Jason took him out to the time warp one night,

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00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: just the two of them. You know, the spot north

491
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas on the way to Area fifty one

492
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: where I I documented time kind of slowing down. And

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: afterwards Ben wrote me this report, and I figured i'd

494
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: i'd read to you what he said he experienced there,

495
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: because I think he describes some really odd sensations in

496
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: an interesting way, he said. The first thing I noticed

497
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: was I could feel a change and the energy around

498
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: me as we were about to arrive. And at that

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00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: point of the drive over there, I had no clue

500
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: how close we were, and Jason confirmed we were about

501
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: to pull up. Now, mind you we're talking about they're

502
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the dark desert. Okay, everything

503
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: kind of looks the same, he says. Upon our initial arrival,

504
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Jason pulled out his various night vision cameras and proceeded

505
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: to give me a tour of the area. We walked

506
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: up a ways to place out some crystals that Jason

507
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: had brought with him, and he was hoping it would

508
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: help to manifest some type of activity. The interesting part

509
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: is I found the walk back to our When I

510
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: took the walk back to our original spot, I felt

511
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: like I was swimming upstream and it seemed to take

512
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: much longer to get back. Another very interesting thing I

513
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: found about the place. I felt like there were time

514
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: pockets is what I would call them. I could step

515
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: into certain spots and it was dead silent, but a

516
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: few feet over I could hear bugs and other things.

517
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: And when Jason had walked to his truck to get water.

518
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: He couldn't even see me when I was standing in

519
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: one of those time pockets. We had some decent moonlight

520
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: and I could see details in the distance. However I

521
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: could not see him either. I finally had to turn

522
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: on a flashlight so he could find me. We were

523
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: both in shouting distance, so not that far away. And

524
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: then he talks about some interesting anomalies. When we come back,

525
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I'll read the rest of this, and then I want

526
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: to I want to get into an email a woman

527
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: sent me where she was saying, I think my husband

528
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: might be a portal. Huh. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're

529
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and

530
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. I'll be right

531
00:37:37,960 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: back and welcome back to the final segment of this

532
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: edition of Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and

533
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast. I am para normal podcast network. I

534
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: am your host, Joshua Pee Warren, and ye have Ben here.

535
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: He is out there at the time warp and he

536
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: steps in like some kind of pocket where he can't

537
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: see Jason, and Jason can't see him. So Ben says

538
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I finally had to turn on a flashlight so he

539
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: could find me, and we were both in shouting distance,

540
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: not that far away, and then he says there was

541
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: some interesting light anomalies that were picked up by both

542
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: night vision and the naked eye. Jason thought, due to

543
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: the rain earlier, we weren't seeing them as well as

544
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: we normally would. But I personally found it more interesting

545
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: when I let my actual night vision. He's talking about

546
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: his eyes fully adapt versus using the cameras. Things seemed

547
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: a bit more surreal when I was looking around ideally

548
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: wearing a body cam and having a tripod mounted in

549
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: the distance with a good wide angle lens. Both of

550
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: them time SINCD could yield some interesting results, and I'm

551
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: going to send Jason's some ideas for different experiments to try.

552
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: He said, I did find it interesting how tired I

553
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: felt afterward. My brain even felt a bit scrambled as well.

554
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: He says, thank you so much for arranging that with Jason.

555
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: This was an added bonus to the trip. Well, thank

556
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: you for that report, Ben, And it was just wonderful

557
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: to see you, my friend, and I'm so glad that

558
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: Jason was able to take you out there, and that's

559
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: why I want to make it clear if any of

560
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: you listening to this podcast are interested in being in

561
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas area, you can have Jason take you

562
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: out to some of these places and show you what's

563
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: up with the third gend night Vision. Just go to

564
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Vegas UFOs dot com, Vegas UFOs dot com and uh yeah,

565
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some availability I think at least over

566
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: the next couple of months to do that. You know,

567
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: there are lots of interesting hot spots out there, and

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00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm from western North Carolina, and western North

569
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Carolina is actually known for some big foot hot spots,

570
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: like Nabby as a big foot type creature seen around

571
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: I think Carpenter's Knob. One of the areas that's especially

572
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: active is Madison County, North Carolina. That's right next to

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00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: where I was born in Buckom County. Madison is still

574
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: a very thick the wood at very rural place. And uh,

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00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: I remember when I was growing up that people. Let's see,

576
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: I would talk to researchers and I came across articles

577
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: where they there. This is documented going all the way

578
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: back to the seventeen hundreds. There are articles about pioneers

579
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: being attacked by bigfoot, bigfoot type creatures. They call him

580
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Chickulie Coudley, which was the Native American term uh in

581
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: that area around Bald Mountain and Madison Kelly. And you know,

582
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I've always known that there's a relationship between these cryptids

583
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: and these kind of paranormal hotspots. Well, my mom and dad,

584
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: Daniel and Peggy Warren have always been very supportive of

585
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: my paranormal interest and they themselves are interested in it.

586
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: My mom, as you know, is more into like psychic

587
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: and esp kind of stuff. My dad is an outdoorsman

588
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: and and he he's actually, at this time in his life,

589
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the best wood carvers probably in the country.

590
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: He has sold thousands of walking sticks that he carves

591
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: by hands and so by hand, and he's so he's

592
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: always going out into these you know, thickly wooded areas

593
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: and he's he's talking to people who live there and

594
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to get you know, wood to call carve

595
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: these sticks. And years ago they found this place in

596
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: Madison County which is a big foot hot spot, and

597
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: they were wanting me to go out there and do

598
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: an investigation so badly and I actually did go out

599
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: there one day, but this is when I was living

600
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, and I just did not have the

601
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: time and the equipment to go out there and spend

602
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: a whole night. But they, my mom and dad had

603
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: just been jonesing to go spend you know, like a

604
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: couple of nights at this bigfoot hot spot in Madison County.

605
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: And I was kind of surprised when they contacted me

606
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: the other day and they said, Um, we have permission

607
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: from the owner of this property, and it's a huge

608
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: property out there where people are seeing all the not

609
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: just Bigfoot, but other weird stuff. And they said, um,

610
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: we want to get some bigfoot hunters out there on Saturday,

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00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: October fifteenth and Sunday October six of two thousand twenty

612
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: two and make an event out of it and see

613
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: what they can find. And I said, okay, well, you

614
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: have got to talk to Christian mccleoud. Okay, you know

615
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Christian mccleoud, the Crypted guy, right Uh, he's the president

616
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: of the American Crypted and Paranormal Society there in Asheville,

617
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He's been a great friend for years. He's

618
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: been all over the international TV. He's been on coast

619
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: to coast a m and he he is you know

620
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to bigfoot, especially like he's the dude,

621
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, he he lectures about it all the time.

622
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: So I'm here in Las Vegas, and I I've got

623
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: other things that that I have, you know, like obligation

624
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: for October. I can't make it back to western North Carolina.

625
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: But my mom and dad have teamed up with Christian

626
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: and they're gonna let people go out there for those

627
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: two nights October fift in October six of two thousand

628
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: twenty two and have this bigfoot hunt. So I don't

629
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: know how many they're gonna allow, but if you're interested

630
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: in doing it, Uh, look, I would love to hear

631
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: about your experiences. Um. If here's how you find out

632
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: all the details. I believe if you go to cryptic

633
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: guy dot com. That's uh one of the ways of

634
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: reaching Christian site c R Y P t I D

635
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: crypted guy dot com. You'll find a link fair Or

636
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: you can just email my mom and her email address

637
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: is ridge Hoppers at gmail dot com and that's r

638
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: I D G E H O P P E R

639
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: S ridge Hoppers at gmail dot com and you can

640
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: get the details. And obviously, you know again there's not

641
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: a lot of space, and this is only for UH

642
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: ages eighteen and up. But I can't wait to see

643
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: what they find out there. October fifteenth and sixteenth, Bigfoot

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Speaker 1: Hotspot Retreat, Search Hunt, call it what you will, and

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Speaker 1: beautiful Madison County, North Carolina. UH portals of all kinds

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Speaker 1: are out there. And I got this email, and I

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Speaker 1: was gonna tell you the woman's name, but I reread

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Speaker 1: this and I thought, you know what, this maybe a

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Speaker 1: little too personal, So I don't feel comfortable giving her

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Speaker 1: her name. But here's what she wrote. She says, I'm

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Speaker 1: curious about your thoughts on people becoming portals. I asked

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Speaker 1: because I believe my ex husband has become one. When

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Speaker 1: he was nine years old, he was severely burned over

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Speaker 1: his body. In the hospital, he was over sedated and

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Speaker 1: told he nearly died, so more or less a near

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Speaker 1: death experience. Since that time, he would have what he

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Speaker 1: described as sleep travel or night terrors while we were together,

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Speaker 1: and he and as he would experience this, a lot

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Speaker 1: of strange things would happen in our home. Electronic devices

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Speaker 1: would go on and off without being touched, and one

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Speaker 1: time the heater in our fish tank was turned up

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Speaker 1: so high all of a sudden it just killed our fish.

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Speaker 1: He would describe his travels as going somewhere he did

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Speaker 1: not recognize and battling a faceless entity. He says, what

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Well, you know what, here's what I

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Speaker 1: wrote back. I said, I believe that all humans are

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Speaker 1: poor els, which is what I call the wormhole brain,

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Speaker 1: and that painful experiences sometimes enhance the portals strength. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've talked before about look at a black hole, a

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Speaker 1: picture of a black hole, we've got one now, and

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Speaker 1: look at a picture of a human eye. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities there. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you know. I wrote about this in my book The

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Speaker 1: Secret Wisdom of Cucko Kan, which you can download instantly

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Speaker 1: if you go to the Curiosity Shop at Joshua pe

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Speaker 1: Warren dot com. And by the way, you know, this

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Speaker 1: you know, I believe that humans, all humans reportals and

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Speaker 1: some are stronger portals than others. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about that? When we play tones and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I also believe it enhances that. Uh, you can expand it,

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