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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast. It comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full

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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig

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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to

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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: we're digging into all the musicians mentioned in the Epstein Files,

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Speaker 1: also talking a little bit about Hunter S. Thompson, previewing

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Speaker 1: Bob Weir and Bohemian Grove, and we get into your emails, comments, dms,

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Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of this is the

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Speaker 1: podcast who have musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers

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Speaker 1: gets buried. Disgrace Liners, where I tell the stories they

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Speaker 1: someone else. All right, this goes, Let's get into it. Okay, guys.

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Speaker 1: Jay Z is in the Epstein Files and Jack White,

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Speaker 1: so Is, Kurt Cobain, Bono, McJagger, Courtney Love, Michael Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Marie Presley, Elton, John, Janis Joplin. There's a recent list

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Speaker 1: list of all the sort of bold face names mentioned

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Speaker 1: their final release of all of the Epstein information that

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Speaker 1: from Congress. It's troubling for a number of different reasons.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of rock stars on this list. And

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Speaker 1: the troubling part is that people see these names and

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Speaker 1: would never be an Epstein Island for a gazillion different reasons,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the timing historically of everything. But a

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Speaker 1: And when you do understand what they are and what

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Speaker 1: how anybody his name could be in these files. So

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Speaker 1: we're talking about millions and millions and millions of documents. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what I want to do in this episode is

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Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen is a pedophile because he's mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: in the Epstein Files. That makes no friggin sense. Yet

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Speaker 1: the other hand, there is some compelling information regarding some artists,

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Speaker 1: some musicians that deserves some unwrapping here in the context

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Speaker 1: That'll be Grateful To Part three, new episode on Bob

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Speaker 1: Weir and the relationship with the Epstein File. With the

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Speaker 1: our Bob Weir episode, Part three, Grateful Dead. And when

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Speaker 1: These Epstein files, what they're not is a definitive sort

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Speaker 1: exact opposite. Of that. What the files are are there.

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Speaker 1: They include a gazillion emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: So let's get a couple facts out of the way

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Speaker 1: real quick. For the record, Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in

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Speaker 1: like real cushy time. In twenty nineteen, Epstein was arrested

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really mean anything. Context is everything. Context is everything. Okay, many, many,

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that in next week's Grateful Dead episode on

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Speaker 1: Bob Weir like I mentioned, Okay that episode. That episode

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Speaker 1: This episode looks at the musicians in the files, and

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Speaker 1: We think it would be impossible. It would take years

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Speaker 1: a ton of musicians also in some of these emails

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Speaker 1: of sad, actually, they're hitting him up for cash, trying

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Speaker 1: But this is what Epstein. This is what Epstein did.

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Speaker 1: He connected people, He made that his business. He was

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Speaker 1: a sex trafficker, yes, and I know there's some debate

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Speaker 1: for me to believe that Epstein's antics would be something

422
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Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson would be interested in any way, Okay,

423
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Speaker 1: for reasons that to me you're obvious. But you know,

424
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Speaker 1: like a lot of my thoughts here, this is probably

425
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Speaker 1: best explored in a Michael Jackson episode. I will say, however,

426
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Speaker 1: there is information in the files indicating that Michael Jackson

427
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: was expressly not interested in Epstein's young girls. Okay, there's

428
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Speaker 1: a file where Epstein where a quote unquote victim, and

429
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Speaker 1: I say quote unquote victim because I can't tell from

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Speaker 1: the files what is legally a victim or defined as

431
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Speaker 1: a victim, and what is not. Okay, but I'll just

432
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Speaker 1: say there's a woman in the files in documentation FBI

433
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: documentation who says that she was at Epstein's Palm Beach home.

434
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was there. Epstein instructs her, and again it's

435
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Speaker 1: important to note that this woman is underage. I should

436
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: have mentioned that Epstein instructs her to give Michael Jackson

437
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Speaker 1: a massage, and she claims that Michael Jackson declined. Okay,

438
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: take that for what it's worth again, probably though for

439
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Speaker 1: another episode. There is so much in here, Okay, But

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Speaker 1: you know, I just encourage you all to go to

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice site yourself and searches information up

442
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: on your own. If you're interested, you're you're gonna find

443
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Speaker 1: more than what I found. I mean, I spent probably

444
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: three hours looking into this morning, and I'm giving you

445
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: the best of what I came up with here in

446
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: the structure of the show. But it's worth viewing these

447
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: primary source documents to see exactly how music and famous

448
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: musicians played into Epstein's life. And actually, as I mentioned,

449
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: non famous musicians as well, kissing his ass, looking for

450
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: bread to support their careers and just reading other people's

451
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: emails is kind of creepy, especially the emails of a

452
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: dead pedo master of the universe like Jeffrey Epstein, So

453
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: I encourage you to check it out yourself. Now, it

454
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Speaker 1: appears that Jeffrey Epstein found Courtney Love to be interesting.

455
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Speaker 1: He followed her on Twitter. She's fascinating. Regardless what you

456
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Speaker 1: think of Courtney Love, she's a good follow She's interesting.

457
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Speaker 1: The mentions of Courtney that's about as far as they go.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty innocuous. Same goes for Kurt Cobain, same goes

459
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Speaker 1: for Janis Joplin, same goes for Elvis Presley. These mentions

460
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Speaker 1: are innocuous. They're not really worth mentioning here except to

461
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: say that there's nothing in the context that indicates anything

462
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: resembling a crime regarding these folks. Bono is mentioned as well,

463
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Speaker 1: because I think you know, rich globally interested masters the

464
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Speaker 1: universe like Jeffrey Epstein are contractually obligated to mention Bono

465
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: at least twice a month, otherwise they're going to lose

466
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Speaker 1: their culture credit. But like Courtney and Kurt, as it

467
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Speaker 1: pertains to Bono, there's no there there. But then there's

468
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Speaker 1: jay Z. There's a fascinating document, an actual FBI document,

469
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Speaker 1: a quote unquote crisis in Take document from twenty nineteen

470
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: that reports on a victim's alleged experience with Jay Z

471
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Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein. And we're going to talk about that

472
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Speaker 1: in the exclusive section of this after party. It's too

473
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Speaker 1: much to get into right now. This episode will be

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Speaker 1: four hours long if we if I start talking about this,

475
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to talk about that with Zeth. We're

476
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Speaker 1: going to go through it. We're going to tell you

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Speaker 1: what's in this file regarding jay Z. We're going to

478
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Speaker 1: give you the context, and we're going to give you

479
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Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.

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Speaker 1: You want to send me a voicemail you wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a text. Haven't heard from her boy Ish in

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Speaker 1: a while. Let's check out Ish in the seven eight one, Jake, what.

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Speaker 3: Up your boy Ish? Just checking in Hope fall as well.

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Speaker 3: Hope you're getting over this holiday season. Listen to the

514
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: Bonus episode recently and you were mentioning what you think

515
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Speaker 3: Cobain would have thought about the food Fighters and what

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Speaker 3: he'd be into, what he'd be doing, and just a

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Speaker 3: quick thought. I agree with you. I think he would

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Speaker 3: hate food Fighters because most people do, at least I do.

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Speaker 3: But I think he'd be into Turnstile.

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Speaker 2: And the way these guys are just kicking.

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Speaker 3: Ass and you know recently won a Grammy.

522
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Speaker 2: But also their roots in punk in hardcore. Is that

523
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Speaker 2: just my opinion? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Hope Ball as well, Disco.

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Speaker 1: Disco Ish, I am recovering from the holidays. Thanks man,

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Speaker 1: I hope you are as well. Appreciate the call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I tend to think the same exact way. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: get nothing, no qualms about what you're saying here. I

529
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Speaker 1: never thought of what Kobe would take a turnstyle, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he would absolutely appreciate the sort of DIY

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Speaker 1: hardcore punk roots food fighters. As much as I love

532
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Speaker 1: some of their music, they're a tough hang in a

533
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Speaker 1: lot of ways. And again, yeah, I kind of agree

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Speaker 1: with your assessment, although I can't put it as well

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Speaker 1: as you did. Appreciate the comment. I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Brian going from the eight oh

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Speaker 2: one for all you acolytes. That's Utah. I only mentioned

538
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Speaker 2: that because I never heard anybody call them from Utah. Anyways, Hey,

539
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Speaker 2: I was new listening to your NWA episode and it

540
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: reminded me of something back in the day in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty eight. I was twenty three years old. But because

542
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm in Utah, to buy the NWA straight out coffee castette,

543
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: I had to go through the counter and ask for

544
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: because they kept it behind the counter to protect their

545
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Speaker 2: kids from that craziness. Anyways, dude, when I first heard

546
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: that fa set, I was like, holy crap, you guys

547
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: are pissed, and I was literally, dude, I was worried

548
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 2: that there was going to be race warris starting right

549
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: after that CD came out, because you know, I was

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00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: in the hard core scene back then and we had

551
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: you know, racist skins and stuff, and so I knew

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00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: whale them guys are coming from.

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00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: And anyways, yeah, Jake, I.

554
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Speaker 2: Was reminded of that when I was re listening to

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Speaker 2: those episodes, and I appreciate all you do.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day, bro, Brian, thanks for the call.

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00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Yeah, that was That was a weird time

558
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: when Straight out of Compton came out, for sure, especially

559
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Speaker 1: if you were in the hardcore scene like we were.

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00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: And you just reminded me I should probably do an

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Speaker 1: episode on on Nazi skinheads. I can't have never done that.

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00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: I could do one on the band's Screwdriver, and just

563
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: because I love I would love to expose the sort

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Speaker 1: of that gross counterculture. You know, it was always sort

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00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: of like adjacent to the hardcore scene. Those dudes, I

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: gotta admit, they came around in Boston and they just

567
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: got their asses kicked repeatedly and sort of banished away

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Speaker 1: from the scene. But that era in the eighties, I

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Speaker 1: remember a big Rolling Stone article on the Nazi skinhead thing,

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Speaker 1: and I'm interested in how that grew out of the

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Speaker 1: punk scene in London and how the difference between UK

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Speaker 1: skinheads and American skinheads. So this, this would be an

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Speaker 1: interesting episode to get into. So thanks for your sort

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Speaker 1: of unintentional recommendation there, Brian, appreciate it. That's why we

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Speaker 1: do this, guys get to hear from you, guys. Hear

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00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: what you're into here, what you're thinking about informs me.

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Speaker 1: It helps me determine what we want to cover going forward.

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Speaker 1: And you know, up until five thirty seconds ago, I

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Speaker 1: should say I wasn't thinking about doing a Screwdriver episode,

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Speaker 1: but I think that could be pretty cool. So give

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Speaker 1: us a calls my point six one seven nine six

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Speaker 1: sixty sixty three eight. All right. A couple weeks ago

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Speaker 1: we asked the question of you guys, you know, what

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Speaker 1: are some of your most interesting best experiences with live

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: music as kids. Let's go to the nine one two

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Speaker 1: and get her response.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake Aspen here from nine to one two, and

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Speaker 4: I've got a kid experience for you from a concert

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00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: that I went to many many years ago. Back in

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Speaker 4: July of nineteen ninety six, I was sixteen years old

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Speaker 4: and went to an ever Clear show at the Ogden

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Speaker 4: Theater in Denver, Colorado. Back then, it was all general

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Speaker 4: admission to my friends, and I basically camped out in

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Speaker 4: the front row for the entire night. At some point

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00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: in the show, I had one of those teenage girl

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 4: fantasy moments come to life. Art Alexakis, the lead singer

597
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: for Everclear Locke's Eyes with the mid song, starts singing

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00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: directly to me and then motions for me to come

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 4: backstage after this show. So I'm sixteen, this is peak

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00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: nineties rock and roll. I'm internally losing my mind. So

601
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: whenever Clear finished their set, Art motioned for me to

602
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 4: come back, but security wouldn't let me through, So even

603
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: though the whole band was yelling at them to let

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Speaker 4: me pass, I was stuck.

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00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: So we regrouped.

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: Outside on the side of the Ogden where there's a

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00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: window two or three stories up that opens up into

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Speaker 4: the green room. Art is literally hanging out of the

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00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: window while this crowd of teenagers attempts to hoist me

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00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: up to him. So we tried and tried for like

611
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Speaker 4: an hour, but eventually reality and gravity one and all

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: of us gave up and went home. I was only sixteen,

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00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: Art was a full grown man, but hey, it was

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 4: rock and roll in the nineties. Anyhow, I love your podcast.

615
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: I've been listening for years, and I especially loved the

616
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: episodes on Jane's Addiction that you did recently. Thank you

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: so much, Jake rock and ROLLA hi.

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Speaker 1: Ay, I asked me, what a message? Who you know?

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Speaker 1: You lucked out? You lucked out. You're lucky you didn't

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Speaker 1: get into that green room. That's all I have to say.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you sharing, Appreciate you having a open mind and

622
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Speaker 1: a clear head about it. We all did stupid shit

623
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: when we were kids, that's for sure. You dodged a

624
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: bullet with that one though. All right, guys, we've done it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long we've been taking calls here

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Speaker 1: in Disgrace Lands six months seven nine o six six

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Speaker 1: six three eight, But finally, what's it been. It's been,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years of taking calls in

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Speaker 1: the Act party. We finally received the call, the greatest

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Speaker 1: call of all time. Matt We've done it. Sound the alarm. Yes, people,

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Speaker 1: it's true. The end all, be all call from Disgrace

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Speaker 1: and Members discos here it is. I'm gonna play for

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Speaker 1: you right now. Unfortunately I don't know who it's from.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a wild stab. Is Stevie Nicks played

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Speaker 1: The playlist continues, Ah, No, definitely not my wife. I

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Speaker 1: Mentioned Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Mick Jagger, of course, Kurt and Courtney,

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be on the Clash. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing.