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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's DJ n V Jesse Larius Charlamagne the guy. We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.

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Speaker 3: In the building.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 1: She's back a morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling it's too early?

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Speaker 3: You told to be in the jibe? Okay, your party

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Speaker 3: is in the job, So beings.

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Speaker 1: In a job is your party? Congress Woman just at

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Speaker 1: Broccoli Festival party.

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Speaker 4: And I was it was amazing too, and they let

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Speaker 4: me on stage. So black people with their black job

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Speaker 4: is this November?

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Speaker 1: How did they react to that? Were they energized? They

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Speaker 1: were energized. It was great. I did a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: I asked them if they had heard of Project twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five, and the crowd was like yes, So that

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Speaker 4: made me really happy. I also kind of did this

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Speaker 4: calling response where I was like, already, so your black

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Speaker 4: job this November is to vote. And so I came

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Speaker 4: back right before Meg got on stage and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just back to make sure that y'all remember what

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Speaker 4: your job is.

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Speaker 1: And they did.

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Speaker 4: So they were engaged the entire time. It was really

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Speaker 4: a great crowd, and it was talking to people that

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Speaker 4: I feel like politicians don't take the time out to

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Speaker 4: talk to.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So yeah, very happy to be there.

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Speaker 3: Where were you when you got the news that Democrats actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, summoned up some courage and said, you know what,

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Speaker 3: the time for President Biden to move aside, which they

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Speaker 3: should have done a year ago. But we're not judging

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Speaker 3: where were you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing this with you.

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Speaker 4: I actually was in bed, so I don't remember where

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Speaker 4: I've been traveling so much.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I had just been to Phoenix with the Second Gentleman.

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Speaker 4: We had just done an office opening. I had just

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Speaker 4: come back from Africa, actually did over thirty hours to

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Speaker 4: go out there to campaign for the Biden Hairs ticket,

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Speaker 4: and so I had just fallen back on a red eye.

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Speaker 4: I got back like Saturday morning, wee hours of the morning,

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Speaker 4: and then Sunday I was like, okay, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 4: a day a risk. It was nothing like dead, I'm sure,

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Speaker 4: but I was literally laying in bed when I found

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Speaker 3: Saw the tweet that you put on and you weren't

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Speaker 3: that happy about them making the decision.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's all about how you do stuff

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Speaker 4: and you know, like you're like, hey, this is a

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Speaker 4: conversation that should have took place a year ago if

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Speaker 4: there were concerns. I agree with you that this is

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Speaker 4: something that should have been part of the conversation earlier.

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Speaker 1: But I also felt like it was very disrespectful.

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Speaker 4: This is a man who really does have an exemplary record,

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Speaker 4: like the record that I am going to put out

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Speaker 4: there as a campaign for.

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Speaker 1: The vice president.

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Speaker 4: They share this great record of accomplishment, but for them

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Speaker 4: not to have more tact about this and not to

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Speaker 4: look as crazy as we look where everything was Democrats

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Speaker 4: kind of doing this in fighting.

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 4: The Republicans, they have lined up with a rapist convicted

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Speaker 4: you know, fell in like they fraud, Like they have

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Speaker 4: lined up behind this guy who we know was telling

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Speaker 4: us ignorant stuff like inject yourself with bleach and y'all

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Speaker 4: want to tell me because he was stumbling and fumbling

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Speaker 4: was born with a stutter. I mean, these are people

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Speaker 4: that are justifying January sixth. I'm like, if they can

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Speaker 4: say that those people were just on the little tour

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Speaker 4: and they were good patriots. Then y'all can stand by

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Speaker 4: this record. And you know, if you have concerns about

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Speaker 4: the lack of excitement for the base, then this is

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Speaker 4: a conversation that I think it still would have went

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Speaker 4: the same way if it was behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: But we really did.

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Speaker 4: Ourself our own harm. Like that's where the harm. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't coming from Republicans. It wasn't Republicans attacking us. It

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Speaker 4: does set a bad precedence.

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Speaker 3: Right, But now a week later, a couple dollars raised,

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I mean you and I have talked about the VP before.

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Speaker 4: You know that, like I ride and rock hard with her,

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Speaker 4: always have, right, So the way that I describe it

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Speaker 1: Right, It was definitely a low the way that it happened.

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Speaker 2: That showed a lack of unity.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely showed a unity outside the house like the house.

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Speaker 2: I like that either I felt like people were switching sides,

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Speaker 2: just felt like, let me, let me.

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Speaker 4: Let me, let me give you some in house info.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna snitch on nobody because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't say I don't. I don't do that all

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Speaker 1: right most of the time. But here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's great that the vice president is the

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Speaker 4: presumptive nominee. Let me tell you something. As people were

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Speaker 4: calling for the president to step down, it wasn't that

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Speaker 4: they were all like, oh, yeah, we want Kamala. I

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Speaker 4: had a lot of coworkers that were like, it can't

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Speaker 4: be either one of them, okay. So that was another

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Speaker 4: reason that I was riding so hard because I'm like,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, what we not gonna do is in fact,

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Speaker 4: in that tweet, I made it clean. I'm not messing

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Speaker 4: with nobody else. It's the vice president or y'all go

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Speaker 4: figure this out. Like I'm not going out there. I'm

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Speaker 4: not getting out there because y'all are playing games. So

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Speaker 4: what we had to do is like behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: we had to strategically get ourselves together quickly. So I

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Speaker 4: sent out a letter of endorsement to all of the

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Speaker 4: them to stand on business as well. And so we

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Speaker 4: as Black Caucus members and some other caucus members immediately

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Speaker 4: started getting in touch with delegates because if there was

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Speaker 4: any daylight between his announcements and her coming out strong,

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Speaker 4: then they would have tried to get somebody else. In fact,

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Speaker 4: they were trying to get other people. I know y'all

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Speaker 4: saw the Joe manchiinton By he was talking about, well,

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Speaker 4: I may need to be president, the hell you do

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Speaker 4: not in the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: The child child.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised us of the energy Doe, because you know,

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Speaker 2: but when they first announced, were you surprised that the

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Speaker 1: I was surprised.

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Speaker 4: I was surprised, but I was pleasantly surprised because I

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Speaker 4: think that a lot of us, especially like black folk,

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Speaker 4: we get nervous, right because we have seen the level

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Speaker 4: of racism and vitriol that Trump has ushered in and

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Speaker 4: he wins over voters that way. So now when we

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Speaker 4: start talking about people of color, I mean, we know

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Speaker 4: but I am happy that thus far we've got the energy.

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Speaker 4: Now the question is can we keep this energy through November?

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Speaker 4: Can we transform this energy into votes? And I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: How long do you think this honeymoon shase with the

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Speaker 3: old Democratic Party? So what changes would you like to

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Speaker 3: change at the top of the ticket, what other changes

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Speaker 3: would you like to see the keep that energy going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that there's a clear signal

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Speaker 4: that overall we're wanting younger leadership, and there has been

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Speaker 4: a gatekeeping for a very long time throughout every level

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Speaker 4: don't really allow for the younger voices to get in.

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Speaker 4: The fact that I'm considered young is really a problem

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Speaker 4: in my opinion. The only young person that I see

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Speaker 4: in Congress is Maxwell Frost.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I know he's gen Z, so he's super young.

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Speaker 4: But overall, I think that we should start to engage

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Speaker 4: I think that there's always this fear that if I

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Speaker 4: this is your power, you over here. But at the

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Speaker 4: same time, we need an actual pipeline, and we need

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Speaker 4: to start promoting like what that pipeline looks like. One

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Speaker 4: of the issues that we have in the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: is everybody sits around and says, Okay, who's next. There

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Speaker 4: is no pipeline, right Like, everybody's sitting around asking questions,

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Speaker 4: and we should say this person got next because we've

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Speaker 4: seen them doing this and that. So that's one of

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Speaker 4: the things that I would like to see.

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Speaker 3: And who's planning the festivities at the d n C.

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Speaker 3: The DNC got to be piped up to seriously because

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Speaker 3: the r n C say what you want.

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Speaker 1: It looked lived, Yes, it.

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Speaker 2: Looks it looked like it look yes, not that I

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Speaker 3: That's a problem because.

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Speaker 1: I said not that I know.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not saying no, you're correct, because you know,

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Speaker 4: if I'm gonna have to do a speech, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be a good one. But no, I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: They have not laid that out. The entire DNC program

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Speaker 4: has to change though, right every day. Everything was built

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Speaker 4: around Joe Biden, and now it's going to be built

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Speaker 4: around Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: But it should and it should be built around Kamala Harrison.

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Speaker 3: It should be built around the next generation of Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I want to see Governor Whitmore on the stage. I

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Speaker 3: want to see govern Shapiro, Governor Wes Moore, I want

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Speaker 3: to see you. You know. I want them to go

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Speaker 3: get people like John Stewart, like the same way that

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Speaker 3: you know the RNC was using nostalgia and had people

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Speaker 3: like Hulk Hogan. That's what I would like to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I will have the right musical acts.

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Speaker 2: Now. Now as we start looking for vice presidents, who

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Speaker 2: do you like and not just one person, but who

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Speaker 2: do you like and who do you think will be

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Speaker 2: the best fit. Because people are realizing this is like

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Speaker 2: a I don't want to say, like a basketball game, but

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Speaker 2: you have to size up who's going to be the

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Speaker 2: best fit and who's going to be the best help.

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Speaker 3: For that got to be a white man. You have

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Speaker 3: to do a DEI hire and hire a white man.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it has to be a white man.

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Speaker 2: Could it be a white woman from Michigan? Can it

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Speaker 2: be somebody else that's black? But what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: The majority of the picks look like or the majority

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Speaker 4: of the options look like white men. So I'm going

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Speaker 4: to assume it's going to be a white man, right,

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Speaker 4: you know? I us the Vice President and her.

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Speaker 1: Ability to pick.

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Speaker 4: I think the characteristist that she's going to look for

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Speaker 3: Like mar Kelly, he looks he looks Maga White's an astronaut.

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Speaker 1: You got one hundred days.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the freedom to live.

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Speaker 3: Overall, Why more people talking about the Supreme Court. I've

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Speaker 3: you know, let's just say the vice president wins, Donald

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Speaker 1: I have no faith in the Supreme Court, So I'm

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do know that we've got

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Speaker 4: I was like, y'all can play fantasy president all y'all

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Speaker 1: It's this dag on Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: Because he's already made it clear that he's going to

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Speaker 1: They get lifetime appointments.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm happy that the President started talking

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Speaker 4: We know that this Republican House ain't about this life.

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Speaker 4: some of this stuff. But one is term limits. They

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Speaker 4: don't need lifetime appointments. That's clear. Number two is expanding

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Speaker 4: And then finally, we need some kind of ethics reform

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Speaker 1: But I'm absolutely with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that we are already preparing for the legal challenges.

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Speaker 4: As Donald Trump is out on the stump saying things

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Speaker 1: Let's clap it up for her.

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Speaker 4: I think that he may not have as many people

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Speaker 2: Besides the Supreme Court, Do you have any other fears

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: We know she's overly qualified. But if the president said, hey,

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Speaker 4: It's not wrong because honestly, that is what it's always

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Speaker 4: It's never been about people that were unqualified. It's been

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Speaker 1: That's it. But you still had to measure up.

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Speaker 4: And still when we look at it, it's not even

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Speaker 4: You have to exceed the qualifications because again, when you

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Speaker 4: I am older than JD. Vans And everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: And the reality is that this dude has never done anything.

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Speaker 4: He just got elected for the first time a year

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jasmine Crockett, we appreciate Congresswoman Jess. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: for joining us this morning. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the VB. Did she call you

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Speaker 1: this week? She called me the day that it happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, man, and you can stay at what us. Please

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Speaker 2: let us know, keep up a breast of what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You can check in any time if you in town.

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Speaker 2: Pull up on this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, giving me your website to think about.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club