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Speaker 1: This is Denna Salent, head coach of the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 1: and you're listening to the NFL Report. That's right, DA,

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Speaker 1: this is the NFL Report, and I'm Steve Whites with

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Speaker 1: my co pilot James Palmer and JP. Yeah, the NFL

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Speaker 1: season is over, but now we are in draft season

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Speaker 1: when college fans the NFL fans actually coalesce and believe

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Speaker 1: in the same thing, and that's finding out which one

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Speaker 1: of these college superstars or which these college superstars is

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Speaker 1: going to make their team better. And to help us

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Speaker 1: with that conversation today we have got Doug.

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Speaker 2: Williams, one of the greatest ever do like personal athletic hero.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to be joined by NFL Media's Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal and we're talking free agents, and boy is rosie

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Speaker 1: packet a punch. But JP, let's talk about quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: teams that need them.

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Speaker 3: It's the most important position in all of sports, Steve,

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Speaker 3: If teams that have great ones or far above average

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Speaker 3: ones are constantly competitive and consistently in the super Bowl conversation,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about eight teams that have varying Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl windows. Right now, those eight teams are not mentioned

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Speaker 3: in this block because they have quarterbacks. We'd like to

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Speaker 3: talk a different group of eight teams, teams that are

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Speaker 3: desperate for a quarterback so they can get themselves into

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Speaker 3: that other group. Let's take a look at where some

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Speaker 3: of these teams stand. Here's where they're picking. You look

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Speaker 3: at the Bears with the first pick, Commanders, two Patriots,

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Speaker 3: three Giants, six Falcons, eight, Vikings eleven. Will break them

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Speaker 3: down with the Kirk Cousins situation, Broncos twelve.

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Speaker 4: Raiders, thirteen, Steelers twenty.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're looking towards the draft, and that's what

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Speaker 3: we'll cover first, Daniel Jeremiah, our draft expert Steve has

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Speaker 3: four going in the first round, that's quarterbacks, and four

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Speaker 3: going in the first eight picks, six total in his

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Speaker 3: top fifty prospects. So if we're looking at this group,

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Speaker 3: not everybody is going to land a quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Let's look at that first group of those teams picking

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Speaker 2: Well, look, some of these teams are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: So we know the Chicago Bears have the first overall pick,

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Speaker 1: and the rampant speculation is it's going to be Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: on from them, because I've said the Washington Commanders at two,

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Speaker 2: And do the Commanders maybe trade.

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Speaker 1: Back a spot or two and still get their guy,

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Speaker 1: around and make sure they get the quarterback that they want. Fine,

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Speaker 1: So now at three, the Patriots, they have to draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Let's not play around. I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 1: moving off that pick. So let's say three of these

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Speaker 1: the Giants at six to get up and get a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This is where the real chess starts getting played. So

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Speaker 1: that's where I think the gamesmanship and the aggressiveness in

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Speaker 1: giving away draft picks comes into play big time, because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to in a minute. The veteran quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: out there on the market, including the trade value, just

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Speaker 1: aren't what you want to build your team around.

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Speaker 4: I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I love where the commanders sit because they're probably sitting

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Speaker 3: with a mindset of who do we like more, Jayden

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Speaker 3: next few months. The combine is not even here, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of evaluators I've already spoken to Steve have

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Speaker 4: And so who do you like best?

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Speaker 3: I think that plays a big part of this who

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Speaker 3: I think that is a team that maybe doesn't really

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Speaker 3: but it just gets the sense we had Terry Fottna

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Speaker 3: In a young quarterback coming in, even if we have

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Speaker 3: I find New England faascinating sitting there at three. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and just real quick, you know

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Speaker 1: going to be very hard for them to get up.

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Speaker 1: That's a ton of freight JP. But one player who's

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Speaker 1: connected to some of those teams. Not all of them, well,

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Speaker 1: a couple of them is justin Field. Let's hear what

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Speaker 5: Do you want to stay in Chicago or what's up? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Of course, of course I want to stay, to be honest,

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Speaker 6: but I'll be trying to, like, you know, with all

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Speaker 6: I love the city, the city's lit, the fans they're

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Speaker 6: you know, they're great, and the people. But it's a business.

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Speaker 6: I an't got no control over it, so whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like the biggest thing with all this

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Speaker 6: just let me know if I'm getting traded, let me

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Speaker 3: I think we all feel the same way, justin I

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Speaker 3: think we all want to know if you're getting traded

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Speaker 3: the lynchpin of this offseason right now, Steve, because there's

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Speaker 3: to every offer that is out there for justin fields

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Speaker 3: fascinates me most about field, Steve is we've seen flash

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Speaker 3: of a really, really good quarterback. Go ask Sean Payton

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Speaker 4: It was almost like two different guys. But what you

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Speaker 3: Giving up a a second round pick or a third

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Speaker 4: Five million dollars. That's not a terrible spot to be in.

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Speaker 3: If you don't love one of these quarterbacks at the

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Speaker 3: evaluate Justin Fields. Is that accurate if you want to

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Speaker 3: take a jump at him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.

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Speaker 1: I mean the finance, the financial aspect of it is

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Speaker 2: That scheme does not fit Justin Fields. Right, you're looking.

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Speaker 1: I told you we talked about Pittsburgh and Arthur Smith

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Speaker 1: wanted no parts of him in the draft. Don't see

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Speaker 1: the Bronco as you mentioned Sean Payton, accuracy is his

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Speaker 1: number one thing in a quarterback that is not Justin

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Speaker 1: Field's history. So once again, with the thirteenth overall pick,

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Speaker 1: I like the Raiders making a trade for Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: Let's also look at kurtk Couzins.

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Speaker 3: Do you find it interesting though, Steve, that like you

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Speaker 3: go and get Getzi out of Chicago and then you

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Speaker 2: We don't and we don't see that happen. But I mean, what.

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Speaker 1: Where they gonna go, Okay, kirk Cousins, right, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: What they can do, Steve, what do you get They

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Speaker 3: After Kirk Cousins. They could go after Kirk Cousins. You

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Speaker 3: know why they could? They could thank Jimmy Garoppolo for

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Speaker 3: We do know that Kirk Cousins could be somebody that

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Speaker 3: Set it this offseason, say that he's a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that Russ is moving out of his

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Speaker 4: Steve.

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Speaker 1: The best draft al duel players from historically black colleges

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Speaker 2: The third annual.

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Speaker 1: All State HBCU Legacy Bowl Saturday, four pm Eastern, exclusively

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm down here Yomen Stadium at Tulane with

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Speaker 2: So as I did that beautiful read right there.

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Speaker 1: This is the third annual, you know, time we've done

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what I can say, from year one

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Speaker 4: I love that, Doug, because we know.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite things about the NFL is if

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Speaker 5: Think what has happened This gals not a little freeboy

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Speaker 5: And he from Steve's school. Now, you know, we talked

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Speaker 2: Dude, his body like this is one where an NFL.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, but but his body alone gets him

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Speaker 5: And then he's the guy that if you teach it right,

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Speaker 2: Right you're talking about Davis Richard. We're seeing right here.

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Speaker 5: And I think the coaching staff that has been assimilate

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Speaker 1: Let's goin to keep on with that, because when they

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Speaker 2: He said, Ah, Doug, what's up?

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Speaker 1: But you know, well, you know Dan is that dude, right,

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Speaker 5: And working with Adams, you know, it's just a different

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Speaker 5: feeling in that building today.

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Speaker 4: I love that, Doug.

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Speaker 3: I feel like every conversation I ever had with Q

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Speaker 3: in my life kind of just stays with me.

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Speaker 4: It just has an impact in some sense.

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Speaker 3: It just kind of just sticks with you because it's

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Speaker 3: so engaging and I've learned so much from him about

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Speaker 3: the game just interacting with him, and I love that aspect.

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Speaker 3: Before we go, Doug, I do have to ask you this,

447
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Speaker 3: being a quarterback, you've spent so much time for your

448
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Speaker 3: current team evaluating quarterbacks over the years.

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Speaker 4: What have you learned in this process?

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Speaker 3: Maybe just I don't know if it's overlapping, but just

451
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Speaker 3: certain traits you've seen over the years that just are

452
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Speaker 3: value to you when they translate into the league. Is

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Speaker 3: there anything that stands out with the number of guys

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Speaker 3: you've evaluated?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. My thing is I like a number one,

456
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Speaker 5: a tough guy, you know, who don't mind standing there

457
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Speaker 5: getting getting the job done. But at the same time,

458
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Speaker 5: you got to be smart enough to know when you

459
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Speaker 5: have to move, when to throw the ball away, not

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Speaker 5: to take a sack in times. You know, I look

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Speaker 5: at it now from the time I played, and I

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Speaker 5: know it's been a long time ago, but you watched

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Speaker 5: a lot of these quarterbacks they'll take a sack running

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Speaker 5: to throw it away. I'm a firm believer. Don't take

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Speaker 5: a sack because you put your team in a worse situation.

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Speaker 5: Now you know it was second down in ten, you

467
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Speaker 5: get sacked nine, third down and sixteen to me, throw

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Speaker 5: the ball away. But a lot of them, I think

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Speaker 5: is worried about their passing percentage and they they take

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Speaker 5: a sack. I don't know that that's hurting the team,

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Speaker 5: but it's helping them from a percentage standpoint. And I've

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Speaker 5: seen a lot of that over the years, and I've

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Speaker 5: just been the whole school. That's the one thing that

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Speaker 5: rubs me the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, very very chy.

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Speaker 1: I have never thought about that or hurt anyone say

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Speaker 1: something about that.

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Speaker 2: Doug.

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Speaker 1: Doug, we can sit here and talk all day. We

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Speaker 1: know you got to get back down here at the

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Speaker 1: field of two lane. We got another practice coming up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much what you've done with the Black College Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and this All State HBCU Legacy Bowl. Creating

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Speaker 1: opportunity for folks to get until the NFL.

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Speaker 5: That's what coach Rob always saying. All it takes is

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Speaker 5: an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Well, there we go. Appreciate you, Doug.

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Speaker 8: Coming up next on the NFL Report, are some teams

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Speaker 8: window narrowing or some as wide open as the patio

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Speaker 8: living room Leni in front of James Palmer's house. We'll

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Speaker 8: find out more on the NFL Report when we come back.

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Speaker 5: A touchdown wins the game play action fake?

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Speaker 6: What du City? Harden to hard?

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Speaker 7: What the catch? Kansas City?

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Speaker 1: When's they g twenty five twenty two and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Kingdom has started its own.

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Speaker 4: History class for the first time. And six thousand, nine

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Speaker 4: hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Forty four days there is a back to back Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl champion and it is the Kansas City Chiefs. Welcome

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Speaker 3: back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whites with you.

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Speaker 3: If you're watching the show, Steve, you don't see it

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Speaker 3: very often. Ice Spice and then Andy Reid back to

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Speaker 3: back shots. You'll see that very often. But Bucky Brooks

506
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Speaker 3: had this on NFL dot Com and we wanted to

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Speaker 3: break it down a little bit for you. Here are

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Speaker 3: eight teams that he believes have the biggest Super Bowl windows.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Steve and I do not believe all of

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Speaker 3: these windows are of the same size, are of the

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Speaker 3: same quality. But let's start from the top and will

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Speaker 3: work our way all the way down. As the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs have a window, Steve. It's one of those

514
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Speaker 3: Florida ceiling type windows Hawaii, and they just kind of

515
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Speaker 3: fold into the wall entirely and the entire space is

516
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Speaker 3: now indoor outdoor living.

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Speaker 4: That window is massive.

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Speaker 3: They have pillars and Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, and Patrick Mahomes.

519
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Speaker 3: They've learned to win in a new way this past year,

520
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: which I think makes them even more dangerous because Mahomes

521
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Speaker 3: is developing different ways to beat you now. And I

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Speaker 3: do believe in their general manager, Brett Veach, is going

523
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Speaker 3: to be very aggressive in getting him another weapon this

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Speaker 3: offseason that helps them move forward in the world they'll

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Speaker 3: be living in after Travis Kelcey and I want to

526
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Speaker 3: sneak this in real quick. Harrison Bucker, one of the

527
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Speaker 3: best kickers in the game is there at Kansas City, Steve,

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Speaker 3: and I think we saw this postseason how important that

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Speaker 3: is to consistent success in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs have it all right now in the biggest window.

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Speaker 1: Which is why Yeah, I mean, I know, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: you got the biggest window because of fifteen, right, I

533
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Speaker 1: mean that window is not going anywhere. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs reinvent themselves twice now as well. You lose Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 1: you win with a revamped offense line with a Super

536
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Speaker 1: Bowl there last, you're saying, Okay, we didn't need that

537
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Speaker 1: explosive wide receiver to win. Then they reinvent themselves this

538
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Speaker 1: year as a defensive team. So you've got the best

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Speaker 1: player in the NFL and Patrick Mahomes. You've got an

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Speaker 1: organization that finds ways to rebuild itself, much like the

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Speaker 1: Patriots did during its dynasty, and like we've seen some

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Speaker 1: NBA teams do during their dynasties.

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Speaker 2: LUs take it to the fact that that defense JD.

544
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Speaker 4: Is young as hell.

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Speaker 1: Almost all of the guys in the secondary are like

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Speaker 1: third to fifty year players or second to fifth year players.

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Speaker 1: So they're going to be around for a while. And

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Speaker 1: we could sit there and talk about salary cap. Salary cap.

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Speaker 1: They've already got the quarterback paid. They know how to

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Speaker 1: divvy things up in a way where they can keep

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Speaker 1: the nucleus of this team together for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to another team Bucky listed that

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Speaker 1: is a Detroit Lions wide open. Another huge window. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is as big as Ford Field. This is a

555
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Speaker 1: very young team. He's a very young head coach and

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Speaker 1: general manager who have established a format on how to

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Speaker 1: rebuild through the draft. Jared Goff has shown he's a

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Speaker 1: fine quarterback. I mean, they don't have to do anything

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Speaker 1: at that position either. They get themselves a little bit

560
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Speaker 1: more help off the edge and on the interior defense

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Speaker 1: to stop the run, little help of the secondary. I

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Speaker 1: mean I said three big things, but they're not major things.

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit is going to be a player for

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Speaker 1: a quite some time JP.

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Speaker 3: Because I see some similarities outside of the quarterback, which

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff is very good, and they can win a

567
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Speaker 3: lot of games and they can win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: with Jared Goff. I see the similarities in terms of

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Speaker 3: head coach and GM being lockstep in terms of how

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Speaker 3: you're building this. You mentioned the young defense, The Chiefs have.

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Speaker 3: The young nucleus that this Detroit Lions team has might

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Speaker 3: be the best young core of players in all of football.

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Speaker 3: From Jamior Gibbs, Sam Laporta, Aiden Hutchinson, Brian Brandon Branch,

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Speaker 3: all of these Jack cong the list goes on and honestly,

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Speaker 3: for how youthful and good this group is, and also

576
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Speaker 3: liked Kansas City Chiefs. We saw this past year. In

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Speaker 3: one season, we've seen the Lions win games in a

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Speaker 3: variety of ways. Steve and I think that's a big,

579
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Speaker 3: big part of this. Next the Ravens, who I believe

580
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Speaker 3: Steve was the best team in football during the regular

581
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Speaker 3: season this past year. And two things stand out to me.

582
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Speaker 3: Most Lamar Jackson won the MVP in his first year

583
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Speaker 3: in a new system. I think that's a pretty good

584
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Speaker 3: start to this window that they're in right now. The

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Speaker 3: second part is you and I have talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's another team in football to where

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Speaker 3: they lose players within the season and you're thinking they're

588
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Speaker 3: key players, and they find ways to continuously keep winning.

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Speaker 3: It's because the roster's so well built. It's because they're

590
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Speaker 3: so deep, and the coaching staff is so good, and they.

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Speaker 1: Lose coaches every year, they lose front office guys every year,

592
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Speaker 1: and they're still because of the institutional stability that they

593
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Speaker 1: have there one of the best organizations in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Plus they've got Lamar.

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Speaker 1: All right, GP, let's go for some of the bigger

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Speaker 1: windows to the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I have them with boilers windows.

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Speaker 1: You know you might see on about the eighty seven

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Speaker 1: floor of a hotel, like it's way too small for you, that's.

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Speaker 2: Not opening up.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a they're on about a one

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Speaker 1: year window. As your head coach, Mike McCarthy got one

603
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Speaker 1: year left on his deal. They're aging on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: They've they've got an absolutely you know, star studded secondary,

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Speaker 1: and you know, guys like Micah Pargin's on the defense.

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Speaker 1: But it's still kind of a hodgepodge of talent. But

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Speaker 1: I think offensively, Dak in that one year window with

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's why that window to me isn't a big one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Bucky has them here because I

610
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Speaker 3: think Dak took his game to another level this past season,

611
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Speaker 3: added some things about playing more consistently outside of the pocket,

612
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Speaker 3: extending plays. I think that's a big part of this

613
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Speaker 3: offense moving forward. But I do think losing dan Quinn

614
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Speaker 3: is a big knock, not just to the defense. You

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Speaker 3: know this Cowboys locker room really well, Steve, It's to

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Speaker 3: the entire team in what dan Quinn was able to

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Speaker 3: do there in Dallas I'm interested to see how wig

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Speaker 3: this window is moving on to the forty nine ers next.

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Speaker 3: I think mainly Steve. I'll just say this for two

620
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Speaker 3: two main reasons. It's one, John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan

621
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Speaker 3: had built something brilliant together in terms of how they

622
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Speaker 3: build a team. To you, brock Party on a rookie

623
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Speaker 3: contract with a lot of talent around him.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This window's kind of like with

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Speaker 2: this nucleus is a two year window.

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Speaker 1: That's not saying they can't continue on if brock Perty

627
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: keeps on doing his thing, but they've got so much talent.

628
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Speaker 1: But at some point you've already seen some signs of

629
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Speaker 1: age on Eric Armstead. It was a little banged up

630
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Speaker 1: this year as well, Fred Warner, George Kittle, Trent Williams,

631
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Speaker 1: like some of these guys, all of a sudden, Father

632
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Speaker 1: time is.

633
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Speaker 2: Gonna come knocking on the door.

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Speaker 1: So I think this nucleus has got about another two

635
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Speaker 1: years to kind of get through. Plus we're also seeing

636
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Speaker 1: teams like Detroit some other teams that we're gonna be

637
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Speaker 1: talking about in just a few seconds knocking on the window.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Cleveland Browns and the AFC North

639
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Speaker 1: because Okay, this window can slide open a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think they've got enough talent on their defense, and

641
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Speaker 1: they've got a great coaching staff, but I think the

642
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Speaker 1: division and you know, there's just something about offensively, can

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Speaker 1: they consist lead, just do enough to keep up with

644
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the Cincinnaties of the world, in the Ravens of the world,

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Speaker 1: and even Pittsburgh to that point.

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Speaker 3: Steve, this is one of those windows that's in a

647
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Speaker 3: bathroom that's all cloudy and you can't see through it

648
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: like it's there. But I'm not sure like you can

649
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: really see through this window because I'm just I covered

650
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson a lot.

651
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Speaker 4: When he was in Houston, and we haven't in.

652
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Speaker 3: Four years now seem him play like he did as

653
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Speaker 3: one of the best quarterbacks in football in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: And yes he's coming off of an injury to his

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Speaker 3: throwing shoulder. I just find this to be a fascinating window.

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Speaker 3: We know what Jim Schwartz brings, we know the defense,

657
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: they have a new offensive coordinator and Ken Dorsey. How

658
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: is Nick Chubb coming back off of the massive knee

659
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: injury had I find this one just very fascinating. I'm

660
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: a little more certain, honestly about the next one.

661
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Speaker 4: In the Green Bay Packers.

662
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: I think what we saw in the way they finished

663
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: the season, with the way Jordan Love played with young

664
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Speaker 3: pieces that are interchangeable to make things difficult on defenses.

665
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Speaker 3: And we know they have a good defense. They change

666
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: defensive coordinators, but this screw. I think I have more

667
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: confidence in a window as I do than the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I do too, in terms of like a window being sizeable,

669
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Speaker 1: because right now they've got a nice window, and Chip

670
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: and Joanna are on their way up from Waco, Texas

671
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: from the Magnolia rehab and they're getting ready to build

672
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Speaker 1: a whole new unit because you've got Jordan Love and

673
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: his receiving corps growing together. Now they've got to replenish

674
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: that offensive line a little bit because David Boxieri we

675
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: saw injuries of this completely stapped him and left tackle.

676
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Speaker 1: But with their running backs and what they've got established,

677
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Speaker 1: I think this is a team that just did it

678
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Speaker 1: right again. All Right, New York Jets are on Buckis'

679
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: list is having a window. This window right here is

680
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: made out of kleenex.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's no team that has a more urgent push to

683
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Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. Otherwise you talk about something

684
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: flaming out, it just doesn't It just they're built absolutely

685
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers to come back to win. They have

686
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Speaker 1: talent somehow. The team won seven games last year without

687
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But if it doesn't work, they're gonna blow

688
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: out everybody. Oh but they're still gonna be stuck with

689
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: like ten fantastic third and fourth year players because they

690
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: drafted so well. But they've got to retool it again.

691
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: So if they don't win it this year, that kind

692
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Speaker 1: of janky assemblage of the program they have there is

693
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Speaker 1: just a weird type of setup.

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Speaker 2: JP.

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Speaker 3: I love these window analogies we're using. Steve I used

696
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: to take a Greyhound about eleven hours home from college,

697
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: you know, you know, sporadically, the little tiny window that

698
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Speaker 3: opens at the top of a Greyhound that just lets

699
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: a little bit of air in. That's kind of the

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Speaker 3: Jets window that I'm looking at. This is a forty

701
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Speaker 3: year old quarterback, yes, a four time MVP, yeah, But

702
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Speaker 3: a forty year old quarterback coming off of an achilles,

703
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: with an offensive line that needs to be completely put

704
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: back together and I think that to me stands out. Yes,

705
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Speaker 3: there's talent other spots. They have top tier talent, honestly

706
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: at some very important spots, say pass rushers and corners

707
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: and wide receivers and lone secker. But I just look

708
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: at that offensive line and it really makes me scared behind.

709
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Speaker 3: You know, that's protecting Aaron Rodgers. Is there anybody on

710
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: this list that you think should be on this list

711
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: that's not that's not.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Los Angeles Rams because I think

713
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: over the next two years they've got an opportunity to

714
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: get back to the Super Bowl and win one. Matthew

715
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Stafford again, we have not talked about how well he

716
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: played last year.

717
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Speaker 2: He was fantastic.

718
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Speaker 1: You've got some peaches, Cooper Cups still there, Pooper Nakua

719
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: is still there, Rob Havnstein, their tackle is still there,

720
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Speaker 1: Kyron Williams and Money Aaron Donald. They have got pieces.

721
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Speaker 2: Oh and JP.

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Speaker 1: You know what else they have this year that they

723
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Speaker 1: haven't had for twenty sixteen, A first round pick and

724
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Speaker 1: cap space. I think this is a team that's going

725
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Speaker 1: to be very aggressive because they know they got a

726
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: couple more years in Matt Stafford and Aaron Donald and

727
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and they want to get back to the

728
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: title game. They've got the personnel and the coaching staff

729
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Speaker 1: to do so.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

731
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Speaker 3: Look at how dangerously we're down the stretch this past season,

732
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Speaker 3: in a year where everybody was like, who's playing what spot,

733
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: We're regrouping, we're rebuilding, and there they were at the

734
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: end of the season, playing really, really good football. On

735
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford playing brilliant football in his last game of

736
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Speaker 3: the season, even though.

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Speaker 4: He came up short.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Philadelphia Eagles, Steve, and I look

739
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: at a team that was maybe a questionable holding call

740
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: away from winning the Super Bowl two years ago, and

741
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: now they're not even on this list. They were ten

742
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: to one at one point and then obviously things just

743
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: spiraled out of control at the back end of the season.

744
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 3: But you still have one of the better offensive lines

745
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: in football, maybe the best wide receiver duo in all

746
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: of football, and aj Brown and Demonte Smith the top

747
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: five tight end in Dallas Goddard. I think the defense

748
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: needs to get faster, needs to get younger, but I

749
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: think having them not on this list, in the Super

750
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 3: Bowl window not being opened, are we forgetting what Howie

751
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: Roseman has done over the last five six years. When

752
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: they made the mistake of giving Carson Wentz a contract,

753
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: and everybody thinks that should sink a franchise.

754
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: It didn't.

755
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia. Howie Roseman is one Executive of the Year

756
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: multiple times over the last couple of years. And if

757
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: anybody can fix things quickly in some spots of need,

758
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: I think it's Howie Roseman. So WOU I would look

759
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: at Philly as still having a Super Bowl window right now,

760
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: and Steve we didn't mention the Bengals, but Joe Burrow

761
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: tells us the windows as long as he's playing.

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Speaker 2: And he's one thousand percent correct.

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Eagles real quick

764
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: because the biggest holes at High Rosen need to defea

765
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: are on that coaching staff. You know that that to fix,

766
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: I should say, is on that coaching staff. They made

767
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: the changes. We'll see if that gets things back together

768
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: to mesh with some of that talent. But that was

769
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the issue. You know, you hear about all the stuff

770
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: going on up there. I think that's how the Eagles

771
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: can get back. You know what else teams can get

772
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: back is to free agency Russell Wilson's not a free

773
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: agent yet, but he's going to be out there, all right.

774
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: Can Russell Wilson, who we said is moving on down

775
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: in home value.

776
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: Is you're gonna make a difference.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk to our Greg Rosenthal after the

778
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: break here on the NFL Sport all that tape Elsie.

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00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: All right, we are back at the NFL Report Steve

780
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Whitch here with my guy James Palmer, and we're bringing

781
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: in NFL media is Greg Rosenthal and Rosie, you've got

782
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: a great column coming out on Monday. I know it's

783
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: great even though it hasn't come out yet, because you're

784
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: talking about some of the free agents that are about

785
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: to hit the market.

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Speaker 2: JP and I. You know, we love you so much.

787
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 5: Greg.

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00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna put a twist on it because

789
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: some of the guys we're gonna talk about aren't quite

790
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: free agents yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're good with that.

792
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 7: I'm good with whatever.

793
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 9: You know, two of the most respected and handsome men

794
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 9: at the NFL I want to do.

795
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right into it.

796
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: Here we go.

797
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's dive in Russell Wilson, who

798
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: is still under contract for not much longer with the

799
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos.

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00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: We'll play where in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, he's so hard to figure out. I

802
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 9: don't think it's Pittsburgh, which people have thrown out there.

803
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 9: I'm gonna throw in Washington and he'll be like a

804
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 9: backup slash one b to whoever the number two overall

805
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 9: pick is, because that's the role I see him, and

806
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 9: it's not the role that he's going to want.

807
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 7: But when when you.

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00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 9: Guys look around the league, where do you see the

809
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 9: starting opportunities for Russell Wilson? Necessarily I don't really see him.

810
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 9: So I think he could fit more as a guy

811
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 9: that is paired with a rookie, And for some reason,

812
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 9: he just seems like a guy who would land in

813
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 9: Washington and maybe he's their week one starter, but whoever

814
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 9: they draft is their week five starter.

815
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rose.

816
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: I could kind of see that because because if you

817
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: look at it like we're looking at all these and

818
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: earlier in the show we broke it down all these

819
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: quarterback needy teams that are near the top of the draft,

820
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: or teams like Atlanta or the Giants that might want

821
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: to trade up a little bit, and then there's that

822
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: group that the Vikings and the Broncos and the Raiders

823
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: are all part of.

824
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Speaker 4: In the other part of the first round.

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00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody you know, or a couple of teams end

826
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Speaker 3: up settling for that next group of quarterbacks that are

827
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Speaker 3: in the second round, and Russell Wilson is paired at

828
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Speaker 3: one of those because I do believe and Steve I

829
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: agree with Greg like he is probably in the bridge

830
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: quarterback type of range right now for where he lands,

831
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 3: and there's not a lot of spots where that player

832
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: actually is needed, which makes this really kind of fascinating.

833
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: So we'll stick with the quarterback spot.

834
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Speaker 3: This guy is not a free agent, Greg, And we're

835
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: just deviating entirely from this article that we're discussing and

836
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: promoting Justin Fields. Yes, where will he get traded? Justin Fields?

837
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: And the Greg Rosenthal brain, Where does Justin Fields go?

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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 9: I think the Raiders make a lot of sense. Doesn't

839
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 9: he just seem like a Raider? I know, Luke Getzi's there,

840
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 9: he's been saying this. See we agree, we agree too much,

841
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 9: but he just feels like the type of guy that

842
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 9: Mark Davis would go get give a chance He's a

843
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 9: really unique guy to be available. I can't really think

844
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 9: of it, you know, Steven James, Maybe you guys can

845
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 9: think of some it. There aren't many quarterbacks who become

846
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 9: available for a trade that actually have a long track

847
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 9: record as a starter.

848
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Speaker 7: I mean, he's started a lot of games.

849
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Speaker 9: He's not like Kevin Cobb coming looser, Jimmy g you know,

850
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 9: just getting traded off of like seven starts, Like we've

851
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 9: seen a lot of Justin Fields, who actually has a

852
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 9: lot of potential and at least has a very good

853
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 9: baseline play where he can be a starter. We know

854
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 9: in the NFL, I don't think there's any chance he's

855
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 9: playing in Chicago, And so with Getzi and the Raiders, I.

856
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Speaker 7: Think he gives them some juice in twenty twenty four.

857
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: What do you think I've been saying it? I have

858
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: been saying the exact same thing, Rosie.

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Speaker 1: Plus, in that division where you have all these offensive

860
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Speaker 1: head coaches who have not faced a quarterback like Justin Fields,

861
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Speaker 1: I think the shock value alone in year one with

862
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders could give them a ton of bounds.

863
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: All right, here's another one talking.

864
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Speaker 1: Now we're going to free agency, the player will be

865
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Speaker 1: you will be most shocked.

866
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Speaker 2: To see change teams.

867
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Speaker 7: Is I'm gonna start with Chris Jones.

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00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 9: I mean, with that shock you guys at this point,

869
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 9: I think when I normally make these lists of the

870
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 9: top one O one, the top guys just get franchise tag.

871
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 9: His franchise tag is going to be thirty two million

872
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 9: dollars somewhere in that neighborhood. So I think number one

873
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: and number two on my list A little exclusive here

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Speaker 9: for the NFL Report since the list isn't actually out.

875
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Speaker 7: Chris Jones and Kirk Cousins. I think they both changed teams.

876
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 9: Because I think at some point the Chiefs have to decide,

877
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 9: maybe we got the very best out of this guy,

878
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 9: and Lagarious Sneed is actually our bigger priority, and Chris

879
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 9: Jones ends up changing teams.

880
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 7: What do you think?

881
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm interested in that one because we all remember Greg

882
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 3: how the contract negotiations went or.

883
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: Didn't go this past offseason.

884
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: If you want to know an inside kind of vibe

885
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: of Chris Jones, this is what I've always been told

886
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: by people close to him. Chris didn't care about money

887
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: when he had none, So imagine what Chris thinks when

888
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: he has some he really does not care. He will

889
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: hold out if he believes that's where he thinks he

890
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: should be, if he wants a certain number, he doesn't care.

891
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: We saw it during training camp. He doesn't care if

892
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: money is flying out of his pockets. He's the only

893
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: guy we really saw go.

894
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: Out and do that.

895
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: The interesting part about it, Greg would be so much

896
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: of what SPAGS does. Almost their entire run scheme is

897
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: based off of Chris Jones, and so there would be

898
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: there would have to be an adjustment up front. But

899
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: I think this team is drafted extremely well. I think

900
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: he's playing really well at a high level. He deserves

901
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: probably every penny he has. But we've noticed from Brett Viach,

902
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: if he believes it's time to cut, he's gonna cut

903
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: and move on and find another spot to fill. And

904
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: we know that they also have Lagarius Sneed, who I

905
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: think they could tag Sneed.

906
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: I think that could possibly be what they end up doing.

907
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: And I love that you mentioned Kirk Cousins because I'm

908
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: the guy I didn't get a chance to chime in

909
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: on the Raiders. I believe Kirk Cousins could land in Vegas.

910
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: I think that's a spot where he could end up

911
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: landing and I could elaborate on it further, and I

912
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: would do that at another time. Let's move on to

913
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: who has to be brought back? Greg Like on this

914
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: list of one one, what team needs to bring back

915
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: player X or it is a massive mistake.

916
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm throwing out a different name than you expect.

917
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 9: Jonathan Gernard is the guy for me on this list.

918
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: I love that great year.

919
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 9: He love that he developed every year in his career

920
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 9: as a textant, better and better and better. And then

921
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 9: when Demiico Ryans gets there, he just turned into a

922
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 9: great second pass rusher, And I love you know what

923
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 9: they have on the other side with the interesting But

924
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 9: I think having those two guys locked up, you have

925
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 9: a ton of cap space. Don't go searching for the

926
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 9: next guy. You've developed this great player. And so to me,

927
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 9: having those two guys up front reminds me of some

928
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 9: of those forty nine ers Demiko Ryan's team where you

929
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 9: really started upfront with that four man pass rus You've

930
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 9: already got the duo for the next four or five years.

931
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 7: Just keep them, just keep.

932
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: Them, you know what, guy?

933
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: My guy is Christian Wilkins with the Dolphins because with

934
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver now the DC.

935
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: You saw what he do with Justin Matdowicke.

936
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: You've seen how he's developed the line, and he's an

937
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: old defense He played defensive line.

938
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: He coach defensive line with the Ravens.

939
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I think with Christian Wilkins, he could be the next

940
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: level superstar. We see how much he means at defensive front.

941
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: They let him go with two edge rushers coming off

942
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: with significant injuries.

943
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: Bad move. They need to go ahead and pay Christian Wilkins.

944
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they'll keep them.

945
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to comment on the Jonathan Garnard spot.

946
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: Greg I love one because what jumped out at me

947
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: right away, guys was I'm looking at Aiden Hutchinson, who

948
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: has nobody on the other side, and there's times where

949
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: you saw Hutchinson get to the quarterback and there's nothing

950
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: coming from the other angle. And Jonathan Garnard had a

951
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: great year, and I think if you have a pairing

952
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: like him and will Anderson, this one I really really like.

953
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: Greg.

954
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: I look at I look at a couple other players.

955
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: Antoine Winfield Junior. To me, he'll probably get tagged, but

956
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: there's no way he can depart from Tampa as good

957
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: as the season he's he had maybe the best season

958
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: for any safety in all football. Another one, what do

959
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: you I want to put Greg's knowledge here? Josh Allen

960
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: the year he had in Jacksonville? Is that necessary to

961
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: bring him back down to Jacksonville in terms of he

962
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: was really the one wrecking everything in the second half

963
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: of the season when they needed they needed a defensive

964
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: player to go out and make plays.

965
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 9: No question, I just assume he'll be tagged. To me, Look,

966
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 9: he got Defensive Player of the Year votes this year.

967
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 9: He went from he was always a very good pass

968
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 9: rusher and he went to great this year. He was

969
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 9: the best player on the team. He's the best player

970
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 9: on the defense. He was the best player on the team.

971
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 9: So the one thing that annoys me, you know that

972
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 9: you'll see the column drops on Monday. You know, they

973
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 9: take away so many of the good players with the

974
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 9: franchise tag and then the list just is in as

975
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 9: pretty so Josh Allen will be one of those guys

976
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 9: I believe taken.

977
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 7: Off the list.

978
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: Rosie fifteen seconds Exter were tight on time. But James

979
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: his favorite player is a free agent Drew Tranquil Oh. Yeah,

980
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Chiefs, we're all doing. Man, he loves

981
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: me like a high rate rank.

982
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 7: He's in my top sixty five or so. I love

983
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 7: me some. Drew Tranquil. I thought I was out. I

984
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 7: had a limb with him last year. I had him

985
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 7: very high.

986
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 9: And the Chiefs they were looking for help and they

987
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 9: saw my rankings and they're like, this guy's gonna help

988
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 9: us win a Super Bowl.

989
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: They I can't remember which conversation it was Greg that

990
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: I was having with Brett Veach where he was like,

991
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: I was looking at Greg Rosenthal's top one oh one,

992
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: and that's kind of what pushed us over the edge on.

993
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: Getting Drew Tranquil.

994
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: But you are right, like he was so valuable to

995
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: that team throughout the course of this season. Smarts in

996
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: the middle of the defense is just brilliant. And you

997
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: know what, Greg Rosenvel's got a lot of smarts as well, Steve,

998
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: a lot of smarts.

999
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining the NFL Report, Greg, appreciate it.

1000
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 3: Coming up the behind the scenes look of the NFL

1001
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: combine what happens really in Indianapolis. Steve and I break

1002
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: it down next on the NFL Report. Welcome back to

1003
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: the NFL Report. The NFL Combine, presented by Nobles starts

1004
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: next week. The D line and Linebackers kick things off

1005
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: next Thursday, followed by the DBS.

1006
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: And tight ends on Friday.

1007
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Offensive skilled players step into the limelight on Saturday at

1008
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: one pm Eastern, before the O line wraps it all

1009
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: up on Sunday afternoon, all here on NFL Network and

1010
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: NFL Plus. I'm on my way to Indianapolis on Monday, Steve,

1011
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: and I think people have one thought of what goes

1012
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: on in Indianapolis. It's what they see on the TV screen.

1013
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: But in your mind, with all the years that you've

1014
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: covered the Combine in Indianapolis, what stands out to you

1015
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: that maybe people don't know about the ongoings in Indianapolis.

1016
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: First off, Jp, I'm not going to have a nice

1017
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: halibit at the Ocean Air for me one night.

1018
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: You got to make sure you can make that happen.

1019
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: So some great things about the Combine kind of behind

1020
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: the scenes, especially for us in the media, is we

1021
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: get to sit down at tables and stuff and speak

1022
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: to some of these draft prospects.

1023
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: Remember, we cover the NFL.

1024
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: We don't get to spend a lot of time talking

1025
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: to these draft prospects, which is the same thing that

1026
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of these head coaches and coordinators are going

1027
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: through because they're coaching in the season. So this is

1028
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: their first exposure, you know, to a lot of these

1029
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: players in watching them do on field drills.

1030
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: But jp also some.

1031
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: Of these interviews, these kind of ten to fifteen minute

1032
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: speed gating interviews they do with these prospects at like

1033
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: ten pm at night, after they've been scouting and watching

1034
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: film all day. So I think the first interaction with

1035
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these collegiate players is one of the

1036
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: things that a lot of people don't understand that it's

1037
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: not just the stuff they're seeing on the field, but

1038
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: again the stuff that happens behind the scenes and those

1039
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: important to those conversations.

1040
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: It's funny, Steve, a lot of people have told me

1041
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: with the are in these interviews, how prepared or over

1042
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: prepared or scripted some of.

1043
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 4: These players are in these combined interviews.

1044
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: They almost want to see them in their building and

1045
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: sit down with them, maybe at the quarterback position, with

1046
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, a whiteboard if you will, or whatnot, spend

1047
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: a little more time with them. The other part is

1048
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: so many contracts are talked about between agents and general managers,

1049
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: and Ryan Poles is going to be in a lot

1050
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: of rooms that were not I'm gonna see talking to

1051
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: teams about potential trades that go on. Those are the

1052
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: two biggest things that happen in terms of trading picks

1053
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: and in trading players and you know, working out new contracts.

1054
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: All right, because of the combine, Steve, next week, we

1055
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: only have one show and that is going to be

1056
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: on Thursday at seven o'clock.

1057
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: So my time in Indie eating.

1058
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: Halibit, apparently in your mind is what's gonna end up happening.

1059
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: So I'll see you Thursday when we take that bad Boy.

1060
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: Enjoy New Orleans.