WEBVTT - Saturday Morning Run: It Has Been a Helluva Week, Let’s Talk About It 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.160 Welcome everyone to this edition of Amy and TJ. It's Saturday, 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:11.200 September thirteenth. We've been doing every week a recovery run 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.800 episode where we talk about the ways we have intentionally 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:20.480 tried to recover spend some time together. This week, honestly, 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.360 we have nothing to report. This was a very intense 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.920 and heavy news week. I think it took a toll 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.440 on a lot of us, and I think it got 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:37.199 really personal for just about everybody in different ways. And 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:42.480 certainly we're talking most notably about the political assassination of 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.239 Charlie Kirk, but there were a lot of other stories 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.400 that were ripple effects. I think that came from this story. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.320 And maybe it's just more of the same of what 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.800 we've been dealing with, where we've gotten active shooters in schools, 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:05.000 we've gotten more hoaxes, and it feels overwhelming to the 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.000 point where it gets personal and you think about how 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.600 it's affecting your life. And we were discussing earlier like 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.520 how has and I think everyone's felt this, How have 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.360 this week's headlines? How have you been personally impacted? TJ? 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.440 Have you felt the weight of this with you and 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.560 your life and your circle and Sabine like, has this 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.720 impacted you in a significant way, perhaps more than even 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:30.360 other weeks have. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:38.080 Oh no, it's just a matter of I felt less 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.840 hope and more despair about where we are. I think 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.200 we're going more so in this direction before we correct 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.000 and this stuff stops. It felt like this is going 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.240 to ramp up. This seems impossible in our lifetimes in 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.440 twenty twenty five that a political assassination would be taking place. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.680 That's insane, right, So it makes me feel like things 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.080 are going to get worse. At what point do we 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.800 turn things around? I actually did think about Emmittil and 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.800 I thought about George Floyd moments where we all look 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.120 at something and I don't care who you are, you 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.799 look and you say, okay, we gotta be better than this. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.040 And I looked at this and thought that could possibly 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.400 be one of those moments and something come of it. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.400 But I'm not hopeful there either. So I think just 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.200 despair was how I walked away from this week. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.960 And it came on a week where we already are 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.200 reflective and somber because of nine to eleven. It's the 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.920 twenty fourth anniversary this week, so you already had a 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:42.880 heavy week that was kind of predetermined based on our 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.200 and we celebrate and we honor and we remember. But 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.639 in spite of all of that, we had someone actually 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.160 who was born after nine to eleven who never actually 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.079 even felt the atrocities of that and what the impact 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.600 of that, that act of terror created in the generations 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.080 of folks who have now not even known what it 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.480 felt like to live through that day. And so, yes, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:15.000 this week's gunman who took out Charlie Kirk was twenty two, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.760 so he was not even alive during nine to eleven, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.240 which was something to consider, right, like they don't in 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:28.280 this age of feeling connected to people and yet in 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.799 that sense almost creating a band of thieves, like you 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.680 have this group of people you find online who think 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.480 like you, and you can create you can create gang 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.680 so to speak, or just tribalism where you're like, we 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.080 think this and you think that us versus them, and 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.640 they never really lived through what we all did on 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.680 nine to eleven. So that kind of struck me that 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.000 he was he's younger than my oldest daughter. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.200 I think remember al Qaeda, Yes, an Isis, Do you 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:03.080 remember the day when September eleventh rolled around an anniversary, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.000 and everybody was on heightened alert. You remember that alert 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:07.640 system we used to have with the yellow and the 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.839 orange and the red and the You remember they used 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.320 to warn us about terrorist organizations. And we found ourselves 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.560 on September eleventh of this year fearing one of our own. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:23.600 In fear. Politicians weren't canceling their events because they were 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.440 scared of foreign actor or a terrorist group was going 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.760 to attack them. They were worried about an American citizen 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.320 from the other side of whatever political ideology might take 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.279 a shot at them. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.960 And in a weird way, this week, with a single 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:45.680 shot and a single political assassination, it's carried more weight 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.080 in a way because someone was silenced for what they think, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.839 silence for what they believe, a targeted and assassinated for 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.760 having a different opinion than the gunmen. And I think, look, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.520 we have these mascul shootings, not to you underplay those 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.880 and the fear and terror that those instill. But this 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.599 arbitrary shooting of AR fifteen or some sort of assault 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.280 rifle where you're just spraying people indiscriminately because you're angry 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.640 at the world and you have mental health issues, that's 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:19.960 a whole other issue. But I think this act this 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.159 week cut at the core of who we are as Americans, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:28.320 where we literally stand our ground and base our foundation 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.640 of our country on the freedom of speech and the 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.360 freedom of being able to have different opinions and to 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.040 think that if you think differently than someone else and 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.560 you talk about it loudly and proudly and grandly, maybe 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.520 even on major social media platforms, that now you are 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.760 at risk, physical risk, like your life is at risk. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.120 That is not the country that we believe in that 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.080 we've built. And that's I think what's so scary about 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:56.880 what happened this week. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.719 Now he's not a politician, but it certainly falls in 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:07.120 line with political assassinations of what JFK, RFK MLK, Malcolm 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.200 X all in the sixties was at sixty three, sixty five, 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.240 sixty eight. I'm missing one of the years, but all 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:17.760 of them were silenced because of some power, some voice, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:22.719 some message for what they were saying. They were all 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.920 silenced for some action they were doing something in their 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:33.400 voice intimidated people. That's where we are now, Where do 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.000 we go robes If politicians are scared to is this 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.000 going to discourage I always hate this about politics because 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.600 I always say like, they're really good people out there 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.960 who could help, and politics turns them off. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.480 Correct, the people who actually should and could lead our 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.960 country into better, calmer, more peaceful waters are the very 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.280 people who know better than to get into it. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.919 So now this you add this to it, my life. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.520 Is going to be on the line, right it used 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.640 to be. My reputation is going to be on the line. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.800 I'm going to be fodder. I'm going to be torn apart. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.080 Everyone's going to rip through every potential skeleton in my closet. Now, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.640 I don't want that for me. I don't want that 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.600 from my family because we've all made mistakes. And just 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.640 to imagine, if your worst mistake was the thing that 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.440 everyone remembered about you, that was paraded out on every 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.800 campaign commercial you could watch on television. Yeah, who wants 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.720 to put themselves and their families through that kind of scrutiny. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.960 Not a lot of people. And so you do have 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.040 a very small pool of people who are even willing 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.160 to become politicians. Now you add a threat to their 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.640 life for based for their beliefs, and a lot of 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.440 times we all know this. To get elected, you have 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.880 to have a strong opinion. You have to appeal to 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.480 your base, You have to kind of go to maybe 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.960 the margins of what you believe to bring along the 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.280 folks who will get you elected in those primaries. That's 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:57.760 just how our politics work. But that very strategy is 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.720 now what potentially could put you at risk, could put 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.080 you in the bullseye of somebody who thinks differently than you. So, yeah, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.080 this has been a very scary week for a lot 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:11.440 of folks, and I can speak personally that this has 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.480 and so many people out there who are listening have 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.440 kids in college, kids in high school, kids in school period, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.480 and for whatever reason, this all comes in the midst 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.520 of these We've had school shootings obviously for years now, unfortunately, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:33.240 but now we have these hoaxes, we have these false 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.200 nine one called my daughter right now. How many times 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.600 in the last two weeks have I received a phone 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.360 call from Analyse who is at the University of Colorado Boulder, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:48.360 with some sort of emergency situation, whether it's a report 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.640 of a gunman, a report of a bomb threat. That's 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.840 what we're dealing with right now. I believe she literally 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.320 is on lockdown right now in her home. She was 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.480 pushed out of campus. There are three bills, things now 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.480 being searched with canine units and police, and she was 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.760 she facetimed me, and she's kind of got this nervous laughter, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.880 trying to play it off because they're hoping and thinking 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.000 it's probably a hoax. But with a two different school 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.079 shootings nearby her just in this week, high schools, and 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:25.000 then having what happened in neighboring Utah, I've never seen 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.320 this level of unease in this country, and I don't 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.640 know that. I don't know what institution is immune from 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:32.280 it at this point. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:40.360 No, and rose to your point about analyse, I get, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:47.000 at what point does she stop getting scared? And just 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.400 kind of right, you become immune, you become desensitized to 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:53.880 a threat, and you kind of roll your eyes. And 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.800 then that is the one that's going to be the one? 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.640 Is it not that we can't have this boy who 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.800 cry wolf attitude? You have to take each and every 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:08.120 one of them seriously. But now it's affecting, like there 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.320 is anxiety, like what's the next thing? Like I'm on 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.520 edge every day. We get up very early and I 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.640 turn on the tv R, unlock the phone, and I'm 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.920 nervous to see the first thing that's going to pop up, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.360 like what happened overnight? What is it now? And so 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.400 this thing and how it looks. It's hard you have 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.480 to find and we preach it all the time, robes 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.360 about staying in the moment and enjoying our lives, doing 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.760 the best we can, kindness and all of these things, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.280 and forgiveness even but man, it is hard on a 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.520 week like this where you just feel anxiety and you 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:49.000 feel we didn't know this kid personally, and a lot 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:53.920 of the things he said we might even find objectionable. Okay, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.040 my heart is breaking for those two kids. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:58.600 And his wife Erica. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:03.559 Oh God, But to see that many people can't even 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.880 just stop there that two kids lost their dad, Like 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.680 people are being fired left and right across the country 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.160 because they are putting out messages and essentially saying, so 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:17.000 what that he's dead. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.800 I feel like that's almost the worst part of the story. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.439 Of course, the death of Charlie Kirk is the most 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.080 tragic and the worst part of the story obviously, So 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.959 I just want to make that clear. And it's obviously 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.280 a relief to know that the gunman is behind bars, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:38.240 But I think The sickening aftermath is the continued hoaxes 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:43.600 that are being called in and the apathy and the 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.960 callousness at which so many people are receiving the news 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.959 of what happened. That there is no empathy, there is 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:56.960 no there is no compassion, There is none of that 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.120 for someone who thinks differently than you. And then you 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.679 have to ask yourself, how am I any different than 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:02.439 the people who? 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.280 Uh? Nobody gets to that next part? How am I 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.240 any different? Nobody gets to that part. 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.000 It's so easy to agree with and be open minded 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.720 to the people who think like you do. The challenge 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.640 is keeping that open mind and that open heart towards 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.720 people who think very differently than you, and that you 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.200 might even think aren't good people because you're judging them 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.760 based on your filter. I just it's one of those 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.280 things where I just I don't We've been screaming this 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.400 for so long. When is it not going to be enough? 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.840 I don't know. You know, we thought Newtown was, We 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.960 thought Paul's Nightclub was, We thought the Las Vegas shootings were. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:46.800 We thought I think you Valdi was the one that 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.280 sounds great. I think you Valdi was the one that 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.280 I finally said we will never do anything. I know 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.720 Newtown should have been the one. And even after Vegas, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.720 how awful fifty something Parkland, I forgot Parkland Parklett. Oh 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.160 my goodness. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.440 I mean, it's just sad. There are so many you forget. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.920 And I have been on these campuses. Yeah, and it's 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.880 the most gutting to see. Let me just tell you, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.640 in Uvaldi and in Newtown specifically, I was there for 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.160 days and days and days. And to see those little coffins, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.480 I'm telling you, there's nothing like it. And to know 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.960 that that's suffering and that loss came at the hands 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.440 of a young man. And here we are again in 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.040 the same situation, and you just don't know who you 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.360 can trust. You don't know who's good, who's bad, who 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.120 is going to snap, and who is just having a 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.240 bad day. It's really hard to know. And it's really disheartening. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.760 And and I'm an adult, you're an adult. How do 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.800 we talk to our kids about this? I don't even 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.800 know what to say to analyst at this point. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.000 No, I mean, what lesson what are you supposed to 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.080 say to a kid? You can't explain this evil because 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.040 I don't understand it. I really don't understand how you 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.479 get to that point. How is this a gun conversation? 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.560 It should always be right, access to guns is always 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.680 worthy of conversation. But what if this is just it's 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.480 not that. What if it's not mental illness. What if 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.680 it's just radical behavior? What if this is someone who 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.800 has just got so caught up. Do you have to 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.080 be mentally ill to have done what he did? I 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.280 don't know. Somebody say you have to be just by 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.240 its nature. Others would just say you are that. Yes, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.400 our dialogue in this country has gotten to a point 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.320 where people it keeps getting hotter and hotter and hotter 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:41.800 and hotter. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:47.480 And this the other question is all this technology, have 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.200 we all become desensitized or at least the younger folks 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.240 who have not really had to deal in human to 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.080 human face to face connection, where they've been so removed, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.840 like one step removed from actually having people be human, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.040 Like if you are on if you're a gamer and 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:06.080 you're just everything's virtual, does it take you, like away 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.200 from the fact that there's a human being on the 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.200 other side of that debate, there's a human being who 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.480 is a father, who's a husband, who has dreams, and 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.760 hopes and is confused and doesn't know what you know. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.920 It's just it's like somehow we just we demonize the 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.440 other side, and then we justify how we feel and 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.160 then ultimately even justify our actions. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.960 Man, No, I just don't have to Europe still think 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.480 about what you say to your kids. I don't have nothing. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.520 I really don't want me talking to Sabin. She has 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.640 more access to things, she sees more things on that 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.080 phone that I can't keep them from everything she sees it. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.360 What do you say? I mean, I don't want it 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.800 to be out. I don't want her to be in crowds. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.200 I don't want to be in crowds. We do events, 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.080 we make public appearances. We don't have anything close to security, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.240 we don't have anything close to crowds like he brings, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.800 but we are in the public. Die. I mean, you 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:05.960 just you're scared to go out and you're scared to 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:14.840 say anything. I don't know what to say to kids 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.040 that don't know where the hope is. Where we talking 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.920 about this earlier, there's nothing like the worst thing in 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.800 life is to lose. Hope is not to die. We 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.600 think that's the worst thing, but it's actually to you 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.320 die while you're living by losing something inside and hope 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:32.320 is the worst thing you can live. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.080 Yeah, And so when we come back, we're going to 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:38.840 talk about how we can all live better in the 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.560 midst of all of this chaos and all of this 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:46.640 difficult news, and how we can make a point to 0:16:46.640 --> 0:17:01.000 not let fear dictate how we live our lives. Welcome 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:07.399 back everyone on this Saturday. It is September fourteenth, thirteenth. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.160 I jumped ahead. Tomorrow's the fourteenth. Today is the thirteenth, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.080 and it's been a hell of a week and a 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.280 lot of folks. We might be tired, but we're emotionally exhausted, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.199 and we've been struggling. I've been struggling. I'm saying we 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.639 because I can only imagine that everyone kind of is 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.720 in the same boat in this situation where we're all 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.600 feeling a bit underwater. I've been struggling with how to 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.880 talk to my daughters and even how to get through 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.560 it as a parent, knowing that I don't have control 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.040 over what happens. My girls are off in the world 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.080 and ones in college and the others in Brooklyn, and 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.640 who knows what she does and where she is and 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:50.200 we all have this feeling of insecurity, I think, really, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.439 and I'm talking physical insecurity, which is just the way the 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.280 world is, and all of what to believe, who to believe. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:01.200 And I think the point being fear is always is there, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.440 and it has been since the beginning of time. And 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.719 I've really tried to make sure that with what I 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.960 say to analyse and what I even say to myself, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.200 that it isn't fear based, because that doesn't help anything. Yes, 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.239 we're aware that a threat might be there, but we 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.840 can't live our lives paralyzed by that fear. I think 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.760 we have to be motivated by it to make sure 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.760 we live our lives and every moment to the fullest 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:31.320 and not worried about what could happen. I don't know, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.000 how do you? How do you tell? Sabine? We had 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.520 a really interesting conversation with her just the other day. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.640 You and I grew up with tornado drills. I grew 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.360 up in Saint Louis, you grew up for my formative years, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.560 and you were in Arkansas. We were talking about how 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.000 when we had drills in school, we were running out 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.920 into the hallway and we knew what tornado position was. Right, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.440 So beIN had a very different experience. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:02.320 Yeah, they have shooter drills, they have lockdown drills, they 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:08.879 have on drills in which they're trained to hide, in 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.119 which their teachers are trained to lock the door and 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.159 pull the shade, and they're trained to go barricade themselves 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.560 in certain areas of the classroom. At that's different. So 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.119 are we Now this is just a part of our culture. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.560 Now we have to be trained to what to expect 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.360 and what we're putting ourselves at risk, and how we're 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.320 putting ourselves at risk anytime we show our faces in public. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.280 It shouldn't be the case. It's if we need to 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.240 be mindful of it. I guess we will adjust. It's 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.040 just a shame to see that this week and we 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.040 are I feel terrible because we are. We put this 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.879 in place to recovery Run as really a way to 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.880 show people, Yeah, you gotta give yourself a beat, take 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:49.680 you always got to take a break with you, whether 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.679 you're actually running or figuratively. During the week. We are 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:59.600 all ripping and running figuratively every single week. And man, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:00.960 we have had I had too many weeks where we 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.879 come on the Recovery Run and say, yeah, We're sorry, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.000 we're just really letting you down. We haven't recovered the 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.119 right way in this today, and this week just feels. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.280 I feel like this is more of a reflective run, 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.720 and every now and then you're like, one, Okay, maybe 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.439 this is our reflective run. But I think it's important 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:23.520 to actually verbalize how we're feeling. I mean, there's no 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.000 way you can consume the news that we've consumed this week. 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.640 I mean, you think about it. Many of you listening 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.320 watched that video and maybe even inadvertently, you didn't know 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.199 what you were about to see. And a lot of 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.360 your kids have seen it too. You know, you don't 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.200 want to think it, but they have. It was available 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.720 to everybody. The things we saw that we weren't prepared 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.479 for take a toll, and I just think it's important 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.040 for everybody to take a beat and acknowledge that that 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.480 weighs on you, and it defeats the human spirit in 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:54.720 a lot of ways, because you start to think the 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.639 worst of everybody, Like, is there you know, is there 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.600 any hope? Is there anyone good in the world left? Yes, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.959 and there are mostly good people, and you get a 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.040 couple bad folks who then make us all feel the 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:11.760 weight of that negativity, and I just I just wanted 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.680 to have a conversation because I'm I was really struggling 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.399 with with Anna Lisa and what to talk to her 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.119 about and how to tell her to be vigilant but 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:25.080 not to be not to be in any way stopped 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.679 from living her life because she's in fear, but just 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.159 to be aware. And I wanted her to just to 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.439 take it and be kind and never not react to 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.480 people and if things look scary, walk away. Like you've 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.320 got to give your kids the tools, but also make 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.119 them recognize that you can't live like that, like always 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.199 anticipating worst case scenario. But you get into this mindset 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:47.679 when you hear news and you have a week like 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.280 we did today or this week excuse me, where you 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.120 just start to feel like, oh my god, I'm gonna 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:53.520 have to be on high alert and you're one of 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.640 those people your head's on a swivel. We talk about 0:21:55.680 --> 0:22:02.640 it a lot. How do you balance that awareness with 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.320 making sure it doesn't dictate your life and stop you 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.679 from doing things you love and being with people and 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.119 being at events and things you want to do, concerts 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:15.440 and parades and you know, football games all of these things. 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.240 Now it's you know, in the back of your mind. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:19.760 Ann Alice told me she was worried about going to 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.040 the football game this weekend. That's so incredibly sad. That's 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.880 so incredibly sad. 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.400 That has to be on her mind, any young person's mind, 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:32.159 in any of our minds, but it is. And folks, 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:36.359 we can't say it enough. Just be as kind as 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.640 you can, yeah, and how good as tight as you can, 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.439 and don't miss in a moment because you don't know 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:44.840 if it's going to be the last. You were talking 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.800 about this earlier, What was the last thing, Charlie Kirk 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.080 said to his wife. Yeah, And she said to him, 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:51.920 not knowing that it was going to be the last time. 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:53.840 You never think it's going to be the last time, 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.920 and you can't necessarily live it sounds morbid, but you 0:22:58.160 --> 0:22:59.919 just youd never know. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:04.800 So that's always the takeaway in all of these moments. 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.240 The takeaway is to love, to live, to be kind 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:13.679 to the way to defeat darkness is through light and 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.240