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Speaker 1: become one of the premier film and philosophy sites on

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Speaker 1: the net. He focuses on the interplay of film, geopolitics, espionage,

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Speaker 1: psychological warfare, everything we talked about here on the program.

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Speaker 1: And his latest book is called Esotera Hollywood. And here

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Speaker 1: he is on Coast to coast. Hello, Jay, Hey, George,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm fine. I hope you are too, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Greg glad to be here. I'm honored. This is a

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Speaker 1: fascinating subject and topic. And how long has this been

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Speaker 1: going on in Hollywood? I would guess since its infancy,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Hollywood as Babylon you know. Of course,

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Speaker 1: a cult Hollywood. What is that? Well, I think most

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Speaker 1: but there's definitely tendencies amongst certain directors. I think certain

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