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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps. Welcome,

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Speaker 2: How are you got a boatload of stuff today? We

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Speaker 2: to play some clips of Tom Homan on Fox News

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. The borders are for Trump and he

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Speaker 2: is he is telling off these cities that don't want

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Speaker 2: I hope all these idiot politicians in La put up

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Speaker 2: big resistance. Wait till they see what happens and Homan

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Speaker 2: explains it. Uh, we're gonna play you some clips. Also,

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Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre was cornered by a CBS reporter over

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Speaker 2: all all the lies she and Joe Biden told about

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Speaker 2: the pardon as there's some funny stuff there as well,

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Speaker 2: and probably above all this Luigi Menngione, what a what

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Speaker 2: a nut bag And he went a little crazy today

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Speaker 2: being let into court. He started putting up a fight

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Speaker 2: with the officers. They hate to throw him up against

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Speaker 2: the wall and he was shouting nonsense. All that ahead.

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Speaker 2: But we got to keep an eye on Malibu, which

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Speaker 2: are erupted into flames last night, I guess around eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and it's burned over two thousand acres.

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Speaker 2: We got Alex Stone from ABC News in Malibu to

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Speaker 2: see what's up at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Alex, how are you hey there? John?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And right now I'm looking. I'm kind of where

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Speaker 3: Pepperdine is in there. There's one plume that is just

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Speaker 3: the neighborhood, the Sarah Retreat I think it's pronounced Sarah

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Speaker 3: that's way up above that neighborhood, but for the most

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Speaker 3: part in the more populated area is down lower. It

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Speaker 3: looks a lot better than it did even a couple

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Speaker 3: talking to a lot of people who say that they

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Speaker 3: have been through this so many times that they have

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Speaker 3: gone and they have bought their own gear, their own

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Speaker 3: that they know that it is every man and woman

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Speaker 3: for themselves, and that that is what they had to

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Speaker 3: do here in Malibou last night, that getting into some

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Speaker 3: of these canyons that they know, firefighters aren't going to

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Speaker 3: be able to do it in time when the winds

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Speaker 3: are running at sixty sixty five miles an hours they

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Speaker 3: were last night some of the peak guts that they recorded,

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Speaker 3: so they have to do it on their own, and

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Speaker 3: they did that. A lot of homeowners decided they weren't

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Speaker 3: going to go and they fought back the flames. We

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Speaker 3: know in one area at least one home burned to

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Speaker 3: the ground. Others though, were saved by homeowners and firefighters

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Speaker 3: working together. But it was a hard fight that went

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Speaker 2: Are there any other neighborhoods in danger right now? Are

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Speaker 2: the flames advancing to other developments.

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Speaker 3: And technically everything is still in danger. If you were

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Speaker 3: to talk to firefighters, and I'm sure tonight when they

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Speaker 3: have any containment around this, They don't have any control

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Speaker 3: but it's not raging around pepper Dye and around the

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Speaker 3: a lot better. The homes are still in danger. They

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Speaker 3: really need the conditions to change. It is just so

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Speaker 3: that's just crazy low. And that's where you get these

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Speaker 3: it's off from there and again in the wind than

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Speaker 3: it really does run. But right now it's more of

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Speaker 3: The Chinook helicopters they're doing what we've seen on so

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Speaker 3: is choreographed. One after another. One chinook comes in, big

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Speaker 1: I understand they had helicopters able to dump water overnight

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Speaker 3: That was a major game changer in this the One

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Speaker 3: came this morning, the first I saw were the super

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Speaker 3: scoopers that came in the big yellow giant you know,

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Speaker 3: it really is like an air force out here right now.

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Speaker 3: But it was the nighttime drops that those make a

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Speaker 3: they had to let it just run. In previous years,

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Speaker 3: the Welthy Fire and others when it became night time

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Speaker 1: Anybody had been hurt, Nobody that.

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Speaker 3: We know of. You know, one guy he interviewed who

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Speaker 3: battled back the flames all night in his home. He

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Speaker 3: but he was alright. Nobody else, luckily, that we know,

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Speaker 2: All right, Great news, Alex Stone, thank you, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jean Alex Stone.

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Speaker 2: ABC News in Malibu watching one and the fires burn,

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Speaker 2: and it is remarkable that there's been a minimal amount

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Speaker 4: And well it also helps that the winds, because the

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Speaker 4: winds were supposed to just be crazy through tomorrow and

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Speaker 4: so they they they're not as bad as we were told.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was supposed to be high wind warnings right

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Speaker 2: I mean they were supposed to be at the height

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Speaker 4: I mean there still are red flag warnings through six

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Speaker 1: All Right, we come back Luigi Menngione.

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Speaker 2: He is the guy who that healthcare CEO Brian Thompson

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Speaker 2: in New York City last week. And what a background

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Speaker 2: this guy had. Probably nobody expected the shooter to have

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Speaker 2: this kind of story, and he's really crazy, but he's

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Speaker 2: really not different than the well, his background is indifferent

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Speaker 2: from the backgrounds that a lot of these crazies have

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Speaker 2: had over the years. These want to be terrorists, these protesters, advocates, anarchists,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of the same psychological profile. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: So he's the one who called the police. Now, Mangione,

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Speaker 2: For this bastard, you ought to be put away in

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Speaker 2: There's nothing special about him. He fits the exact profile

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Speaker 2: of something I've seen probably for about twenty five years now,

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Speaker 2: when they were protesting trade summits in Seattle twenty five

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Speaker 2: And down here in LA you've seen these guys. Guys

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Speaker 2: they're usually homeless advocates. They fight for the right for

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Speaker 2: the last twenty five years, for all these different causes.

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Speaker 2: Most of them are upper upper middle class to wealthy

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Speaker 2: Their mothers are usually and heavily involved in charity in

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Speaker 2: the community. And it's the same guy over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, down here in LA we had homeless advocates.

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Speaker 2: One guy's dad was I think an Academy Award winner.

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Speaker 1: He was in the movie industry.

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Speaker 2: They grow up in mansions, they go to very expensive

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Speaker 2: private schools, and I don't know what the psychological profile is.

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Speaker 2: I've read a little about this, but you've got to

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Speaker 2: believe that they've internalized a lot of resentment and hatred

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Speaker 2: out on other wealthy people, other people who come from

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Speaker 2: as well. You know, I was just looking at video

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Speaker 2: It's an insult to the intelligence of the American people.

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Speaker 2: And if you're going to see these jackasses though constantly

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Speaker 2: be some copycat shootings. Who knows, But it's an old

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Speaker 2: story of spoiled rich kids. I tell you, the wealthy

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Speaker 2: and the near wealthy in this country. The guys become anarchists,

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Speaker 2: ANTIFA members, homeless advocates, terrorists of one sort or another.

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Speaker 2: The women become the woke brigade, and they're the ones

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Speaker 2: financing the George Gascons of the world and the Chesebodnes

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Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom's. It's an interesting synergy between like the

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Speaker 2: mothers who are have too much money and they they

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Speaker 2: spend the money on left wing, nutball causes, woke causes,

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Speaker 2: and then their sons become anarchists and they're all angry

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Speaker 2: at the dad who made the fortune as an executive.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI A

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We are on from one to four every day, coming

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Speaker 2: up after two o'clock. Tom Home Man. I when I

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Speaker 2: hear him talk, I get so excited. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is the way law enforcement ought to be. And he's

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Speaker 2: not just blustering, he's just not doing tough talk. He

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Speaker 2: is telling off all these mayors and all these city councils.

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Speaker 2: If you don't cooperate with their deportation policies, wait till

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Speaker 2: you see what I'm going to do in your town.

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Speaker 2: And he's willing to lay it out, and he's he's

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Speaker 2: a big guy, big bald, blustery, intimidating. We're going to

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Speaker 2: play you some clips that are very entertaining from Fox

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Speaker 2: News and Maria Bartiromo's show that's coming up after two o'clock. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because I know you, Deborah, that

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Speaker 2: you sometimes experiment with these alternative therapies and foods and things.

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Speaker 1: I do. Huh.

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Speaker 2: I was like when you were running around waving stage

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Speaker 2: in the air, and you know, the vegan diet, and

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Speaker 2: then you were just on some weird retreat in New Mexico,

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Speaker 2: right in Arizona, Arizona. Yeah, sure, Or you go see

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Speaker 2: a medium.

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Speaker 4: I did not go see a medium. No, but where

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Speaker 4: I was in Arizona, they they did have them.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't. Did you partake in any weird ritually?

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Speaker 1: I think I know, yes I did. Oh you did?

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Speaker 2: There you go, all right, I knew it, all right.

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Speaker 2: Do you hear about this Mexican actress. What happened to her? No,

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Speaker 2: her name's Marcella ale Cazar Rodriguez. She had taken part

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Speaker 2: in the combo ritual. It's a tradition native to parts

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Speaker 2: of South America that involves ingesting poison to cleanse the

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Speaker 2: body of toxins.

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Speaker 1: That's what I always hear.

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Speaker 2: Women on the West Side are always going on juice cleanses.

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Speaker 2: They always say, I gotta cleanse the body of toxins. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the juice cleanses go for seventeen dollars like a glass.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know you've been in those juice I have.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy those?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen dollars And it's like, you know, anything in

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Speaker 2: the cleansed is their wallets.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what happened.

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Speaker 2: She started vomiting severe diarrhea, rushed to the hospital, and

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Speaker 2: she died.

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Speaker 1: That's a cleansing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well that's a little more than a cleansing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, now they're they're trying to find a shaman who

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Speaker 2: was running the retreat in the state of Durango. The

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Speaker 2: shaman fled the retreat after telling Rodriguez she could not leave.

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Speaker 2: And here's how the Cambo ritual works. Uh, you blister

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Speaker 2: the skin with a hot stick. You didn't do this, no, John,

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Speaker 2: of course not.

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Speaker 1: You apply a.

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Speaker 2: Waxy venom to open the wounds or in the open wounds,

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Speaker 2: and uh, I guess oh the venom comes from a frog. Oh,

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Speaker 2: so they suck venom out of a poisonous frog. They

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Speaker 2: blistered the skin with a hot stick, and then they

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Speaker 2: put the venom on the wound and then you vomit,

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Speaker 2: you have diary, and you die.

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Speaker 1: No, you can only do this once? Really, and why

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Speaker 1: is that?

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Speaker 2: Because you die? Apparently she's a pretty well known actress

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Speaker 2: in Mexico. It's the Amazonian tree frog. The uh It's

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Speaker 2: Latin name is phili medusa by Coolar, and it's used

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Speaker 2: in rituals for its venom. Immediately you engage in severe vomiting, dizziness, painting,

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Speaker 2: your lips swell, your face swells. It's supposed to a

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Speaker 2: way to purge your body of toxins. I just tell

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Speaker 2: people who carry on about toxins. Yeah, that's what your

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Speaker 2: liver does.

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Speaker 1: That that's true.

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Speaker 4: Or you know what I like to do my cleanse

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Speaker 4: is I try and drink a lot of water.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's get all the truck's normal. That's normal.

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Speaker 1: That's water. Well that's what I do. Although you can't

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Speaker 1: drink too much water. I know, and I don't. People

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Speaker 1: have died. Your head blows up.

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Speaker 2: Remember that radio station some years ago, I think in

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Speaker 2: Sacramento they had a water drinking contest and they died

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Speaker 2: killed one of their listeners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so all I've done that you consider weird?

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Speaker 4: Is I light sage, right, and I smudge, which I've

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Speaker 4: smudged you before.

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Speaker 1: You certainly have. I still think about that.

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Speaker 4: I think I need to bring it in again. We

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Speaker 4: have some bad energy around here.

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Speaker 2: You never you never ingested anything. No combo is banned

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Speaker 2: in some countries and there's no scientific evidence to support

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Speaker 2: and cleanses your body of toxins. Oh, there's more to

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Speaker 2: the ritual. So after you burn your skin and after

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Speaker 2: you apply the toxin, it's mixed with spit, by the way,

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Speaker 2: new So if the toxin doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Get you, the spit will who spit?

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Speaker 2: I guess The shaman elders then brutally beat you with

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Speaker 2: the harsh stems of the rattan plant and then will

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Speaker 2: rub the wounds with the poisonous and powerfully irritating leaves,

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Speaker 2: which calms you briefly, but then within seconds the poison

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Speaker 2: sleeps into your bloodstream and it results in a full

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Speaker 2: purging of the stomach, and I mean a full purging

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Speaker 2: of the stomach. And it got this actress.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad.

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Speaker 2: So you you know read the fine print when you

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Speaker 2: go off to these retreats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I just took a yoga class and a mindfulness class. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and what.

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Speaker 1: Did you think about during the mindfulness class.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's very hard for me to calm my mind.

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Speaker 4: So my mind was just racing as it always does.

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Speaker 4: So it doesn't work too much.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't doesn't doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to do this thing that you just

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Speaker 4: talked about, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well this is slaw. Yeah, I know your mind.

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Speaker 4: No, I'll just stay the way I am.

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Speaker 2: People will fall for anything, and then the shaman disappears.

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Speaker 2: They can't find it.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why.

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Speaker 2: Uh most of these those things are sex calls. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, all right, we're gonna play you. Tom Holman, Uh,

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Speaker 2: this he's playing tough guy. He makes Trump look reasonable,

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Speaker 2: and I think he means what he says.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: He's just just acting up for effect. I think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna he's going to be in Los Angeles because Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles is among the most defiant cities when it comes

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Speaker 2: to deporting illegal immigrants. So I'm assuming when he talks

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Speaker 2: this is meant for Karen Bass. Tom Holman clips next

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Speaker 2: Deborah Mark Live CANFI twenty four Hour Newsroom.

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