WEBVTT - Babes w/ Jess Varley

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on. These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Done done, Happy New Year, and thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 4>That's Messed Up an svupod.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Lisa Trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am Kara Klank. Oh my god, Lisa, we

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<v Speaker 1>did it. We are done with twenty twenty, the worst

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<v Speaker 1>year of all time, and I'm so excited for what

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one is going to bring me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have something to bring up that I've learned,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of shy and you probably know it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm pissed already.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, forensics means.

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<v Speaker 2>That like dead people and study of science, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I just learned that it also means.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I just heard that yesterday on a podcast. How

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<v Speaker 3>did you?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy because our mutual friend posted like an

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<v Speaker 2>old sweatshirt from her high school and was like, killed

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<v Speaker 2>it in forensics team, So I was like what and

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<v Speaker 2>then it's debate it has nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why I've been what the fuck? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just heard that on another podcast, which by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, not to plug other podcasts that are not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, but I've been listening to the most fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>podcast called Chameleon about the Hollywood con Queen. It is wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so good. And there is a part in

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<v Speaker 1>it where they talk about somebody being on a forensics team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of thought the same thing. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>forensics must mean debate, but I didn't know, Lisa, So

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<v Speaker 1>you and I get smarter in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there is an SVU episode named Chameleon, so that

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<v Speaker 2>ties in. And then also, I just watched a video

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<v Speaker 2>on the Internet and it was like a chameleon climbing

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<v Speaker 2>different colored pencils, and every colored pencil it touched it

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<v Speaker 2>turned into that color.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe our listeners would like to look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody wrote to us on t and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>would you guys rather be a dead body or find

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<v Speaker 1>the body?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, obviously find the body.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a line, like I do not want to

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<v Speaker 1>be just like lying in front of Timptumertuny with my

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<v Speaker 1>chest cut open. I'll take it, but my preference is

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<v Speaker 1>a line, you know what I mean. I'm just hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to one day audition, Lisa, you've auditioned.

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<v Speaker 2>I have auditioned, and I bombed so bad it's really upsetting.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I got to go to Chelsea Peer's.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an SV auditioned to be a process server

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<v Speaker 2>and I had one line where I go Lieutenant Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>Benson and then I hand over a piece of paper

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<v Speaker 2>on the steps of the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I go into the audition room and I do

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<v Speaker 2>it and they said, you're smiling too much.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to stop smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>So because you were just like gagged me talking to

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<v Speaker 1>an invisible Olivia Benson in this audition, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just thrilled all the signage around the building just

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<v Speaker 2>being there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I was just like too happy.

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<v Speaker 2>And They're like, yeah, this is just a job, like

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<v Speaker 2>you serve papers every day. You really aren't this excited,

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<v Speaker 2>so can you just do it again? And when I

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<v Speaker 2>did it again, I accidentally handed over the paperwork before

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<v Speaker 2>I said Lieutenant Olivia Benson, and the casting director just went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta go, and then I had to just leave sadly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went and ate my Middle Eastern food

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<v Speaker 2>with a friend. But I was so sad it just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't your time. It wasn't your time.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I also had another bad audition for something.

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<v Speaker 2>I auditioned for Broad City and I had to say

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<v Speaker 2>at a Mammy, but I kept saying empanadas. And after

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<v Speaker 2>every take they're like, can you just please say at

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<v Speaker 2>a mammy? And I'd be like, oh, absolutely, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I kept saying empanadas and then they asked me to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I auditioned and got apart on on Broad City,

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<v Speaker 1>which was cut.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we all have our fun stories. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you have any bad audition stories?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Well, on my way to the Broad

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<v Speaker 1>City audition, I completely sprained my ankle. I dragged myself

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<v Speaker 1>into the audition like I was like, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>basically like tear muscaret tears running down my face and that.

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<v Speaker 3>They were like, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just kind of I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>wear wedges to like look cute, and my ankle just

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<v Speaker 1>fully rolled on my way there. Like people rushed to

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<v Speaker 1>me on the ground they were like, are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I went down hard. It was like me at a wedding, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lesson though, don't wear wedges.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I threw them away. Afterwards, I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>these I can never wear again. It was like the

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<v Speaker 1>worst spring.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know wedges were disgusting, and then I was watched. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned recently you can't wear wedges. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>big fashion No.

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<v Speaker 3>No, oh, really they were cute. I mean they were cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I see people wear them in They well because on

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills Housewives Lisavander pump out of pink diamonds and

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<v Speaker 2>wedges party and Erica Girardi Jane in legal trouble right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the head stylist was like wedges and was appalled.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when I learned. Well, there was wedges only

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<v Speaker 1>in like twenty fourteen, So I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I was okay back then, but you're right. I'm off

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<v Speaker 1>the wedge train. I'm too tall for wedges. I'm five nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be taller.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have one more bad audition. I'd like to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like bombing so bad that in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I go, could we just please stop? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to leave, like this is not going well, and

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, no, please finish. I'm like, please, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to finish, and they made me finish, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when I walked outside Lena Hall Broadways, Lena Hall was

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<v Speaker 2>going in after me. So she had like just been

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<v Speaker 2>nominated for a Tony for a headwig and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to It was just I mean, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really humili I always loved doing commercial auditions where

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<v Speaker 1>a famous person is right next to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, why am I here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like You're obviously going to give it to this famous

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<v Speaker 1>person who has like facial recognition, but okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be more expensive. I don't know is everyone

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<v Speaker 2>relating to our audition chats?

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<v Speaker 3>So today's episode is Babes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's season ten, episode six, so it's it's pre Stabler departure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really good one. I think this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>so iconic. I'm also very obsessed with the story that

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<v Speaker 1>it's based on.

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<v Speaker 2>We record our intros after we record the crime and

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<v Speaker 2>recap of the episode, can like listen to it and

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<v Speaker 2>then do a fun little intro. And I do need

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<v Speaker 2>to do a disclaimer. I am very judgmental and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need anyone coming for me. I acknowledge it. I

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<v Speaker 2>am very anti pregnancy and anti parenthood. I am projecting

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<v Speaker 2>my own stuff onto people and I would just like

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<v Speaker 2>to go on the record and say, do not come

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just expressing your desire to be child free in

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<v Speaker 1>a very passionate way, and we just don't want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to think that you're judging their choices because you're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and I'm speaking and you are friends with

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<v Speaker 1>me who has a child. Me is that you repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>refer to a parenthood as a nightmare. So I totally

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<v Speaker 1>am not offended by that. I just because I love

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<v Speaker 1>being a parent. I'm actually pregnant, I'm having another baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so I am I'm getting on the nightmare roller coaster

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<v Speaker 1>another time.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>What an announcement, that's a what is it an exclusive?

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<v Speaker 3>An exclusive? You are to hear first? Are messed up?

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<v Speaker 1>Fan?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for Rosie to have a baby to beat down.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's going to be such a little boss. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be really really cute. Yeah, you've always

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a parent, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like yeah, And so we both have totally different

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<v Speaker 1>journeys and so we're not trying to project that onto

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<v Speaker 1>the girls. In this episode. However, they make some bad choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that. Let's just say they make some

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<v Speaker 1>bad choices. I think we're a lout to call that out.

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<v Speaker 1>So what should we just get going? Let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. This is Babes and Joy, all right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump into Babes iconic episode based on a case that

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<v Speaker 1>is very dear to me and Lisa, which we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into later. But this episode starts this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those episodes that truly takes like seven left turns, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so crazy, Like it starts out with some

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<v Speaker 1>amazing acting from a couple of extras who are two

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<v Speaker 1>people on a date, and then there's two waiters that

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<v Speaker 1>are just waiting for them to get be done with

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<v Speaker 1>their fucking date. And there's all these jokes like he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stiff us harder than he stiffs her, And the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing flaming here is the major d like just

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<v Speaker 1>all these like SVU style jokes, and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst couple. They're the worst couple. There are the

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<v Speaker 2>people where the chairs are up, the servers are waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to go the fuck home, and these guys

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<v Speaker 2>just won't go just have sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you dessert when you can go fuck exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe they did the Dan Savage thing and they

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<v Speaker 1>had sex before their meal, but listen, so essentially they're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there having dinner. They're talking about having Flambay for dessert. Q.

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<v Speaker 1>A human man stumbling through the empty streets of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>fully on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of these insane things that like, you're like, only.

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<v Speaker 1>In New York moments do happen in New York, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is truly only on SVUS New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, also only on SVU.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not even two minutes into a show and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a man fully on fire running through the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Melinda Warner shows up. She kind of explains

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. This guy was castrated, stabbed, then set

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. Whoever did this wanted the guy to suffer.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets a little equip where she's like follow the

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<v Speaker 1>bloody brick road, you know, she gets, uh, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out where this guy came from. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after the credits were in the Emmy's office where we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting some really gross, gross shots of stab wounds, which

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that they don't usually show stuff that graphic,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was pretty nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one of the most horrific things I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the most horrific things I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, which is Melinda Warner, the medical examiner,

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<v Speaker 1>rehydrates a torched finger so she, like Lisa, likes to

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<v Speaker 1>give credit to the Foley artists in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these episodes, like whoever was doing that? It's like this

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting sound while she puts a puts a syringe into

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<v Speaker 1>a finger to like fill it with water so that

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<v Speaker 1>she can get a uh, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like a thought.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like Mitch McConnell's hand, honestly, or like a

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<v Speaker 2>mummy when they unravel up, Emmy, that's what the thumb

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<v Speaker 2>looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a really gross and they are able to

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<v Speaker 1>get a fingerprint. And the victim is named Josh Gally,

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<v Speaker 1>who they assume is homeless based on like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that's going on. He was off the charts

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<v Speaker 1>for alcohol and crack. He seemed to have been living

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets. So then we're at his house actually

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not actually like like a fully homeless person.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a home and we're talking to his father,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Gally, played by Michael Battluco, who you might.

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<v Speaker 3>Know from the Practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a pretty well known actor and I did

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<v Speaker 1>meet him on a subway platform in New York one time.

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<v Speaker 1>He came up and asked me like directions or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him and then I said, Hey, does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone ever tell you that you look like that guy

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<v Speaker 1>from the Practice? And he was like, they do because

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<v Speaker 1>I am him, and I was like, oh wow, I yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got on the same subway car and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, for sure our friendship is going to

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<v Speaker 1>flourish from here. He did not wasn't interested in talking

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<v Speaker 1>once we got on the train.

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<v Speaker 2>The Practice I remember watching as a child, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that kind of sparked me. I love for like

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<v Speaker 2>procedural dramas. It taught me what suspense was and twists,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember really being inspired by that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, The Practice was a really good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Star studdied Marla Sokoloff from Full House Fame. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people that you're like, where did you go?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of Practice people that what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to them? So we learned that Josh was like

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<v Speaker 1>this great football player and everything was fine, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he developed schizophrenia.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my biggest fears, because you develop it in

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<v Speaker 2>your twenties or your thirties, or maybe you do acid

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<v Speaker 2>one time and then suddenly you're schizophrenic.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's really fucking scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a whole fun life and then suddenly you think

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<v Speaker 2>aliens are chasing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And his dad said he was a super sweet

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<v Speaker 1>guy and he left it all on the field. And

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<v Speaker 1>then just real quick side note, Stabler goes, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to play his team when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school at Bayside, And I'm like, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Saved by the Bell happens in California and this is

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<v Speaker 1>New York, but I just want to believe for two

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<v Speaker 1>seconds that Stabler was like beat up up kids at

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<v Speaker 1>the Max, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Maloney's knowledge of schools in New York A

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<v Speaker 2>greater area is expert level.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to come in to play in another few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it turns out that Joshua was the schizophrenic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>meds weren't working, he turned to drugs, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>only enemies he had in his life were the street cleaners,

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<v Speaker 1>which are people who beat up homeless people and videotape it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically see these videos of people like beating

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of homeless people. It's really awful. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why anyone would do that or take videos

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But Munch talks about how DV and C

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<v Speaker 1>is taking over the internet and says, grandmas are emailing

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<v Speaker 1>around two girls one cup, tagging it lol.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>They are, Munch. I don't think anyone got two girls

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<v Speaker 1>one cup from their grandma. But please write in if

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you found two girls one cup. Anyway, they

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<v Speaker 1>set up this fake trap to catch the street cleaners.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all kind of a red herring. Munch is

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<v Speaker 1>ranting through the streets acting like you know, basically saying

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff he regularly says, but saying it in

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<v Speaker 1>like a dirty jacket. And they arrest these two perpetrators,

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<v Speaker 1>like who a girl and a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>They look like they.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love good Charlotte, Like that's the vibe, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're just like talking about how they beat up

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<v Speaker 1>homeless people because a homeless guy killed her dad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this whole like red herring thing, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just ends up that they're not the ones who did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, what's so weird is their alibi is that they

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<v Speaker 2>were at a nightclub at the gans Of hotel, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, there's no way they would have let.

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<v Speaker 1>You in yet they don't look like Gangs of Wort

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<v Speaker 1>hotel people in any way.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, who knows. But they had the photos

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<v Speaker 3>they had about New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have the photos that got paid through on

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<v Speaker 1>a BlackBerry, which really warmed my heart because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love a time stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have a barry Berry? Oh? Hell yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>were BlackBerry. I was clicking and clacking.

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<v Speaker 1>I could type on it under my desk like without

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<v Speaker 1>be not like in school, but like at work or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I could like type an email without looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>like I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I always read that little ball. For sure. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a BlackBerry, but my friend did. But I was

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<v Speaker 3>jealous of that ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the ball. Love BlackBerry Messenger was like original, like

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like texting. I mean texting was a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but BBM you could like see if someone read your message.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like much more. It was like quick. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, the rumor is that Kim Kardashian still

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<v Speaker 2>has a BlackBerry for texting and then an iPhone for photos.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so just to.

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<v Speaker 1>Rumor, I love that she cannot adapt. She cannot use touchscreen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so now we're back at the Emmy's office. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where like, oh, where's the story going. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what. Tamaratuni has something for you. So she has

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<v Speaker 1>found some electric match or something that was used to

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<v Speaker 1>like this man on fire. It was found at the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene and it is engraved with BHHS, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa has mentioned, Stabler immediately knows is Blessed Hard High

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<v Speaker 1>School because he has an.

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<v Speaker 3>Encyclopedic knowledge for Catholic schools.

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<v Speaker 1>In the New York area. So they show up at

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<v Speaker 1>the school and they immediately meet Max, who is played

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<v Speaker 1>by Jesse McCartney, actor turned singer turned actor, actor turned

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<v Speaker 1>singer turned actor.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's done a Beautiful Soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he has a song called Beautiful Soul.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's how.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes hand to hilt, you know, it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those. And he runs a chastity club. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course at the hottest guy at the Catholic school

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the head of the virgin club.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know those virgin clubs never work. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, our feminist friend. I don't know, well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all feminists, but I have a friend that at twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>she was forced to sign a chastity thing and refused,

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<v Speaker 2>and all these other girls did, and then after they

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<v Speaker 2>got out of high school, she was.

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<v Speaker 3>The only virgin left.

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<v Speaker 2>All the girls that signed the chastity thing ended up

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<v Speaker 2>fucking in high school and she just wasn't about that vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we all know that the contracts don't work,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought i'd add that anecdote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this episode's about to prove the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they find this guy who like run, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in like the science club or something. It's Alec Bernardi.

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<v Speaker 1>They questioned him. He's got a fully like burnt mangled hand,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's clearly a suspect in possibly setting this.

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<v Speaker 2>And he does my favorite thing where it's like when

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<v Speaker 2>someone sees a cop and then suddenly starts being shifty

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<v Speaker 2>and running around.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye can bring their books and trying to get the

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<v Speaker 3>hell out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, act natural. If the cops are trying, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>act chill. You can't start running.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's bad. I mean, we'll get it, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to it. But Alec Bernardi does nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>help himself the entire time of this episode. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that two, Benson his back. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was going to be a Benson free episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out she was just at a three day battered

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<v Speaker 1>women's conference, which listen, I think, twelve years later, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that anymore. But yeah, she's back from the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve the Batterlewoman conference and the coffee was bad. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in March's Debbie masar into the precinct.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would the first time I saw this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet I gasped. I mean, to see Debbie in

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<v Speaker 2>all her glory is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She has very striking eyes, like her eyes are so

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<v Speaker 1>so clear blue, and like she's just really you know, aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>that New York kind of She's like Madma's best friend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's very love her iconic. Her body is sick and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I follow her on Instagram for a while and she

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<v Speaker 2>has a really hot chef husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I wrote a little bit on the show Younger,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was happy that she got to I think

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<v Speaker 1>she said like one thing I wrote. Anyway, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Yeah, I did punch up on the first season.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you wouldn't tell me that, considering it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Darren Star production.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm I'm sorry. I figured I mentioned it to you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to talk about this on Looking at

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<v Speaker 1>your face, you seem very betrayed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well because outside of SVU, I mean, all my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>shows are s SVU, Sex and The City Simpsons. They're

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<v Speaker 2>all SA's six feet under Seinfeld. What the fuck? All

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<v Speaker 2>the best shows are with essays. Okay, so acknowledge Rosie. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. If you're hearing little squawks. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing little squawks, that is my daughter. I am at home.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a pandemic. I'm sorry. I wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 2>get to my normal studio space.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm a teen mom, just like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out pretty soon in this episode. So she's out

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<v Speaker 1>there and she's pissed that we won't let her come

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<v Speaker 1>on and talk because she loves us for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if you hear her, if that's her.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay. So Debbie Mazar runs in. She wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see Alex. She's his mother.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, he's just a cake.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta let me see him. But he's over sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're questioning him and she's like, he's probably scared

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<v Speaker 1>to death. Cut to Alec, not scared at all, confessing

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<v Speaker 1>to this entire crime. Proud as hell. He acts like

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<v Speaker 1>it's an honor killing. Nothing that he really describes me sense,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's like, I just got the formalde hyde and

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff to burn him to scare him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, there's other ways to scare someone. Make a

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<v Speaker 2>loud noise, no, throw gasoline on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's like, I got this scalpel and then he

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<v Speaker 1>attacked me and he reached for the scalpel, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just started stabbing him. And it's like okay, but in

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<v Speaker 1>his dick like it just seemed really weird, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way he was trying to make excuses for everything that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>because and he said he.

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<v Speaker 2>Would do it again, which is a perfect thing to

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<v Speaker 2>say to police officers an interrogation if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then what he also said was I did what

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would have done. And it's like, where's your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not around anymore. Okay, So like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>emulating a man who abandoned your family? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he just abandon He's not dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, they said he's not around anymore, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>walked out, and it's like, I gotta do what my

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<v Speaker 1>deadbeat dad would do, you know. So basically it comes

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<v Speaker 1>out that he went to go attack Josh or rough

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<v Speaker 1>him up or whatever because he thinks Josh raped his

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<v Speaker 1>sister Tina and got her pregnant. Cut to Tina sitting

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<v Speaker 1>with Debbie Masar and she's like, nobody raped me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Benson fully outs her for being pregnant, and Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>maysa is like what baby?

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<v Speaker 3>What baby?

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<v Speaker 1>And then she like unzips her you know, sweat her

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<v Speaker 1>hoodie and she's got like a three month pregnant stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>How did Benson know that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Alec Bernardi said, this guy raped my sister and

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<v Speaker 1>got her pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tina says the sex was consensual. She admits to

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<v Speaker 1>get wanting to get pregnant on purpose, like Josh wanted

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to get a condom, and she said, not that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want it. So then we cut to this montage

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 1>of all these girls, these four girls that are friends

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<v Speaker 1>with Tina be talking.

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<v Speaker 2>People usually like a movie montage where people put on

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<v Speaker 2>different outfits, you know, but this montage of teen mothers

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<v Speaker 2>is better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, I would just like saying this is the top montage.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get this montage of these girls being like,

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't it amazing We're all going to be young teen

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>moms together. This isn't about the fathers. This is about us,

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.880
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna have so much fun. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>there's varying degrees of parental reaction, like one dad's just

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<v Speaker 1>in the back crossing his arms like you dumb bitch,

0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and like she's like, I guess I'll just go on

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 1>welfare because her dad has a look on his face

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like you're not getting a dime from me. And I

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>think all these parents are thinking fuck, Catholic school did

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<v Speaker 1>not work. And it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So then one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the girls actually makes a reference to Bristol Pale

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and is like that vice president lady's daughter got married,

0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it's got pregnant. Like it's like, yeah, she's not the

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>vice president and Bristol pale and is not a role model.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then we get to the ring leader, who

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<v Speaker 1>is Fidelia.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Bristol is a dumb name. I'm sorry, Yeah, what

0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 2>does that even mean? Is it a part of a gun?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get what that name is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Bristol means. It's always like a

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<v Speaker 1>place to me because there's a Bristol, Connecticut there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So Fidelia Vidal is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring leader who got her better name, Yeah better Vadilia

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Vidal is a dope name. She's like, she's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, isn't it awesome? We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest MILFs on the block. We're blah blah blah,

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Like she's very into this, and we you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>found out that she has the one that kind of

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 1>got pregnant first and gave all these girls this idea.

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So then Benson gives Fidelia kind of like a harsh reality.

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, the first Fidelia is being sassy team pregnant belly,

0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>which looks so real and disgusting. And then I have

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<v Speaker 2>a phobia. I have a phobia. I don't even touch

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>my sister's pregnant belly. It just really sickens me.

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>But I like babies.

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I just have a phobia. So she's also like, oh,

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 2>are you jealous Benson. Well, she doesn't say Benson. She's like,

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.399
<v Speaker 2>you're old. You wish you were as hot as me

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and had a baby, wish you had Like truly, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen anyone taught Benson like this, Like not even

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the most hardened rapist murderers have ever mouthed off to

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Benson like Fidelia has.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she's mouthing off to Benson being crazy and

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>then Benson's like claps back and is like, actually, your

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>kid could have a host of problems from dyslexia to

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 1>cerebral palsy, like have you thought of any of these things?

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And the dead You're not gonna go to cot, like

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>she goes, your dreams are dead, like your life is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking over. That's like essentially what she tells her. So

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the dad is like, stop bullying my baby or whatever.

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.199
<v Speaker 1>The dad is weirdly like on her side, like she

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing wrong in this situation. And then Max shows up.

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Max's remember Jesse McCartney, and the head of the Abstinence

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Club shows up hugs her as like is it true,

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>like and it's like, meanwhile, she's got this massive pregnant belly.

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you not notice your girlfriend and your Christian girl

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Catholic girlfriend was getting exponentially fatter every week? Like it's

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>just crazy that he didn't know.

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.880
<v Speaker 3>And of course he can't be the father because he's

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Captain Virgin.

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's like, you were supposed to be my

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>first and true wife. I was supposed to be your

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 1>first and true husband.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 3>But then he she's like she kind of says, I'm sorry.

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>He gives her this hug and you can you might

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>miss it if you're not listening.

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 3>But he goes even Christians make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh really, well, you know, and if there's any crossover,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like we were talking, you know, the

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>new franchise The Housewives of Salt Lake City. This woman's like,

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mormons have a dark side and a lot

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>of secrets, and it's like, yeah.

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 3>We all know, you're all twisted.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we've heard of the politic, Like, of course

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>we know the secrets and that there's a dark side

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:50.719
<v Speaker 2>to politic.

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think anybody, I don't think there's one

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>religion that people are like they're all clear, they're all good,

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they're not doing anything wrong. Ever, maybe bye, maybe byee.

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I also want to say the dad finally is a

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 2>little pissed too, because he's like, oh, who's the fucking father.

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Finally the dad has a moment. Yeah, so we get

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>we're at the precinct. The cops are all kind of

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>having like a pow wow to figure out what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week we find out shocker of the episode, Stabler

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>is pro life. I mean, of course, he's like, if

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no rape or incest, have the baby give it

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>up for adoption, which is like, I mean, we've talked

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 1>about that. It's just like a crazy uh such a

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>male thing to think. And then in walks gray Lick

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the worst actress of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a listener, Kim Graylick, she is my least

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>favorite DA that they ever have. You can wait, please

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>tweet at us, and please tweet at us and tell

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>us who your least favorite DA is, because it is

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>for me, Kim Graylick with a bullet.

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh to me, it's the old drunk.

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>But also, if Kim Graylick wants to come on the show,

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 2>we'll have her and we'll change her tune really quickly.

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll fight you over the drunk. Christine Latti is a goddess.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll fight you, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So she comes in.

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Basically is like, we got to charge the dads of

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>these girls, but one of them is already dead. Two

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>of them are underage as well, and then the only

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<v Speaker 1>one is Fidelia's baby daddy, who is allegedly twenty two

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>years old. So they find out that this guy's name,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't even know his name. She met him one

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>time at a party. His name that she knows is Dizzer. Okay, Lisa,

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>what do we know about Dizzer?

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 3>What do we know about dizzer? He is a word

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 3>we are not allowed to say.

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, he's like a white guy wearing like hip

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 2>hop clothing, gold chains and a shirt that says, what

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 2>is it ripping.

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Recondex and getting sex? Yeah.

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And when Munch and Iced Tea come, This is my

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>favorite is when people try to befriend Iced Tea and

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like he's not even nice to his son, He's

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be nice to you, and yeah, I just

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I love seeing people try to be like what not

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>brother and He's like, we are not brothers. I'm a

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking cop killer, you know, Like I just I can't

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>imagine trying to like snuggle.

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Up to iced. He ever, not that way, not that way.

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I think there's other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they go talk to this Skuy dizzer. He's nuts,

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't remember.

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Me, and he's in such a Brooklyn store, Like I've

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 3>been to the store in Williams. Yeah I have been there.

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're basically going to try to do paternity, but

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because the baby's not born yet, Finn and Stableer show

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>up to Fidelia's house just to take her to get

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>an amniocentesis, which is insane. I mean, amniocentesis is like

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a procedure with risks. It's like not the kind of

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>thing where you're like, get in the cop car. We're

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>taking you to get an amnio. Like it just doesn't

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>work like that. So they try to go get her

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and like, wait, what's the little joke? What's the little

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>thing that happens? They try, They go to get her

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 1>out of her bedroom and the dad's just kind to

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>open the door.

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Classic s view.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>What I love is before they show us something horrific,

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>we get a little laugh, and basically he's well, he's like, oh, sure,

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>we'll get her.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey pumpkin, Hey pumpkin.

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like your daughter is a ringleader of a pregnancy pack.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>She is not a pumpkin. But the door is locked

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and he tries to knock it open, and then he's like,

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>oh sorry, bums shoulder, like, he makes a little joke

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>that he's not strong enough to like, oh, maloney, can

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you help me?

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 3>I just yeah, yeah.

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>So Stabler has to like use his Catholic tattooed arm

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to fucking bust his store open, and they open the

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>door and Fidelia is hanging dead from a ceiling fan.

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so not great. Yeah, so that's what we get.

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>We get a joke and then a teen hanging Yeah.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Immediately that's they're able to walk that fine line. It's

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a ping pong game. So at the top of the

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>next act, we find out that Fidelia's mom, who I

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>think has been drinking a lot.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 3>She seems very zonked on pills.

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>She's like someone was emailing Fidelia calling her a slut

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>and a whore, and the email address was like Dizzer

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>sixty nine at AOL or something.

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Like that.

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Also, what's funny is they had a family computer in

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the main room, which is so of that time. Yes,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>so of that time. And I want to give a

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>shout out that Mom is an amazing actress. She really

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>nailed her scene.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, she's good.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So cops think that it's Dizzer who's been calling her

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>asla and a horror online and stuff. But they do

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>some research find out that the emails came from an

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>internet cafe. We get a little security cam screen grab.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Who is it leaving the internet cafe? Peggy Bernardi aka

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Debbie Masar. So she admits to bullying Fidelia online. But

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point in the timeline of the show, I

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>think New York doesn't really have big cyber bullying laws yet.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think now New York and the rest of the

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>country is sort of catching up on that, but at

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that time there weren't these cyber bullying laws. So it's

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>like they're trying to figure out, like how culpable she is. Meanwhile,

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>someone has doxed Peggy Bernardi, meaning they've revealed where she lives.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>We show up at her apartment and there's, as Lisa

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>puts it, a beauty in the Beast style brigade has

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>shown up at the house, which I love because I

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>just think no one in New York ever talks to

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>their neighbors, but on this show, people are.

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, get out of here, rapist neighbor.

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Like everyone's always showing up places to like out their

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>neighbors and get mad at them. And then we cut

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to so Peggy is arraigned and is ordered not to

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>use a computer not allowed.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>This is kind of like me.

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>It was in a humiliating moment when I got a

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>call from the FBI because of a Twitter argument I

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>got into.

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, to have.

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>The government tell you to please get off the internet

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>is pretty humiliating.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I would say, that's.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 3>That's really great. Okay.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>So they're reading out these messages online between Peggy disguised

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>as Desser sixty nine and Fidelia, and they're on a

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>social media app called b Friends spelled fr n d z.

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with all the various websites and social media

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>platforms that SVU makes up. There's like face Union, there's

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>face Space, b Friends, There's a bunch more. I just

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>found a really great article with all the fake websites

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that they have on sview and it's amazing. I'll post

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>it on our Instagram or something, or our Twitter. So

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in one of the messages, right before she signs off,

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Fidelia says, gotta go. Foth is knocking fat and everyone

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>assumes that she just means my dad's knocking. But Tina

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of stands up in court and is like, that's

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>not what that means. Foth is first and true husband,

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<v Speaker 1>which we actually heard Max say earlier in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we cut to the cops interrogating Max, and

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>they're just fully interrogating a teen without parents or counsel.

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Not great police work. But Max admits.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff. He's like, I snuck up the fire

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>escape to visit Fidelia. Max goes, We've been together forever.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Fidelia is fifteen years old, so I just want to

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>put that into perspective. He's saying, Fidelia was blowing me off,

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>she said she never loved me, she said she was

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>scared to have sex, and then she went and did this.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>So he actually admits that he choked her to death

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and then set it up like a suicide. And Max

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<v Speaker 1>is just like, I've been asking God for forgiveness, but

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not answering me. So God is ghost Max and

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of getting an idea of how that whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing works.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's like you've made up everything else that

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>God told you.

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Can't you just look it out? Can't you just make

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 3>up what he's telling you to do? Now? Yeah?

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>So wildly Max gets only four years in prison, which

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like is must be due to him being

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen or something because he's murdered a pregnant girl

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that just seems like you'd get more than four years.

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Alec Bernardi gets fifteen to life. I think because he's

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>over They say he's over sixteen, he might be eighteen.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they tried him as an adult because that. Yeah,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I saw that, I was like really

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>really shocked by Yeah.

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah. So he gets fifteen to life for

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>killing Josh, and then Peggy's charges are completely dropped. But

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>then gray Lick like antagonizes her a little bit, and

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>then Peggy attacks gray Lick, who, oh, to be honest,

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>is being very judgy. I feel like she's like, hope

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you can wash the blood off your hands before you

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hold your grand baby, Like Okay, I.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Like it though, Yeah, Hayt and graylock so much. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a killer line.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I hate grayl like, but I feel like a DA

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>would never say something so judgemental. But okay, it is

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a TV show. So Peggy attacks Gray like she's got

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>some kind of little amount of blood behind her ear.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>But now we're meant to believe that the mom is

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<v Speaker 1>going to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Collar that bitch for assault, call her that bitch for assault.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So now she's apparently gonna go to jail, even though

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>we have no idea if it's like her first defense.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what kind of jail time she'd get.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not her first defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go out on a limb and say,

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>this bitch has gotten in trouble before.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we've got little Tina who's pregnant, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's farther along. She's like, you know, she looks

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like she's seven months or eight months pregnant, and her

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>mom's in jail, her brother's in jail. You know, her

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>dad took off, so she's got nothing her if a

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>baby daddy is dead, Her baby daddy is dead. But

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>guess what, her baby granddaddy steps up and he offers

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to take her in the guy from the practice, Tom Gally,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>offers to have her come live with him because I

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>guess they live in the same building, so it wouldn't

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>be a big wouldn't be a big move, you know,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>so he can be have his grandchild then take care

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of this girl who has nobody now. So it is

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a rare, rare, like tiny ray of

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>sunshine happening at the end of a very fucked up

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>episode where multiple people are dead.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Even the ray of sunshines and SVU are still like,

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>these people need some therapy, you know, Like it's always

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like I hope these people get the therapy they need.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Because it's like I don't who Yeah, yeah, anyway, that

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was babes. We're going to take a quick break and

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>when we come back, Lisa's going to walk us through

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>all the real life of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back. I hope you enjoyed that advertisement.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>So what's cool about this is it's not an actual crime,

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>so it's a little light and fun after a teen suicide.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 2>But there is also besides the Pregnancy Pact, which you

0:33:59.920 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>know took the nation by storm in two thousand and eight,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was the news story of the fucking year.

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Too, and probably was a winning and then pay packed

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>the two biggest things of eight.

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 2>But there is there was a real life situation where

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>people were beating the shit out of homeless people and

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 2>putting it on the internet, which is disgusting.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>The red haring kind of crime at the beginning is

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole is the whole street cleaner's thing, which is

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>loosely based I think on bum Fights, which are a

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>series of movies that were produced in like the early

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>two thousands. I think we're actually homeless people were paid

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to like be in sketches, but I think in some

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of the sketches they were definitely fighting each other and

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>it was not It seemed pretty dehumanizing. There were four

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of them, yeah, from two thousand and two to two

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, and I think that's definitely where the

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>show pulled this idea from. It got a lot of criticism,

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>like homeless advocacy groups were like, this is not cool.

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But the one ray of sunshine, I guess, the one

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>silver lightning was that one guy who was in a

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>bunch of the movies actually did sort of make enough

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>money to get off the street. So in one case

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it helps someone, but overall a pretty deplorable idea.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can also just give people money and not

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>make them box for it. I mean, yeah, if you

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>make anyone desperate for money do things that they wouldn't

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>do for free, it's not nice anyways. Okay, so let's

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>get to the pregnancy packed. Let's set the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>And what is the town called. I'm going to say

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 3>it wrong the whole time. Gloucester, Gloucester, Yeah, Gloucester, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight. I'm going to set the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Juno is out, you know, teen mom is out, knocked up,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bristol Palin. Teen moms are in fashion right now.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>And also I'd like to say that the girls that

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>got pregnant in this high school deny that there was

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a pregnancy pact.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 3>They say maybe some of them were, but they're eight.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>So basically this high school, it's a Catholic school. Eighteen

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.439
<v Speaker 2>girls and one high school got pregnant in the same year.

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<v Speaker 2>And the nurse, the nurse is like my favorite, the

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>school nurse nurse. Daily she says that she administered one

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty pregnancy tests that year alone, the most

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 2>she has ever done. And the reason it's like it's

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>up in the air because the pregnancy packed rumor was

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 2>started by the priest of the school that was trying

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to alleviate responsibility because it's like, fucker, you're doing a

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>bad job educating these kids. If everyone's out there getting pregnant,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>give them condoms, give them education, and so he started

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the rumor of the pregnancy pact. The nurse thinks that

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 2>there was a pregnancy pact because she said girls would

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>hysterically cry when the tests would come out negative. So

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 2>some girls did want to get pregnant. And then I

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like some of the girls were like popular and

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be associated with the loser girls. I

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I have no idea either way. It's a problem,

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 2>but it's not a crime. And thinking about all this,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm really upset that all these girls got so much

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 2>negative attention all A lot of the interviews afterwards were

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 2>saying these girls were called slut people in the town

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>screamed at them everywhere they went, calling them whores, And

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, what about the boys that got them pregnant?

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we hear nothing about these boys.

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I just found out one thing about this that I

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>had never heard before, which is that one of the

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>girls even sought out a twenty four year old homeless

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>man to get pregnant.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>The girl denies it, and it's another thing that the

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 2>priests said. The Catholic principle from the school said the

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>girls were desperate and one of them fucked this twenty

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>four year old homeless person to get pregnant, which is sad,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 2>but I don't believe him.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's definitely where SPU got Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh one, but if these boys were twenty two, why

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 2>are they not being charged for statutory rate? Why aren't

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the boys being called sluts and irresponsible fathers? It's like

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>just sexism, and how the world works is like so

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. Where these older boys are fucking fifteen year

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 2>old girls without condoms and the girls are being called sluts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's frustrat to me. Oh and we forgot Jamie lin

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Spears also was there anyways? And then a funny I

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's funny, but a fun thing about

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>all these teen moms. They have perfect teen mom names,

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Like one was Kyla, Lindsay, Briann Amanda. It's like, if

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>anyone's going to be a teen mother, it's going to

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 2>be these names, you know, No Barbara's were getting knocked up.

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>The girls in the episode were Bianca, Tina, Carlotta, and Padelia.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>They were clearly trying to make it like it's an

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Italian thing to want to get pregnant when you're fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't even catch that.

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>And there is a documentary you watched it all the

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Gloucester eighteen. Yeah, I watched The Gloucester eighteen. You have

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 2>to buy it. There's no way to steal it. Unfortunately

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is. It's like sad because it's like all

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>these girls, I mean, they get them a little bit

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>before it all goes down, but then they get them

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>some of them after, and it's like it's just.

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Not they all think it's going to be this y.

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that a lot of teens that want

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to get pregnant are they are not getting love from

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>their parents, they're not getting love from their boyfriend or whatever,

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and so they're like, this will be unconditional love that

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting from a baby, you know, and they just

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>see what it's like to almost babysit, you know, like

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're babysitting, it's like, oh cute and now you

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>give it back to the mom, you know, or you

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>put it to bed and you eat all the people's snacks.

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just not the same as like having your

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>body ripped apart, like having to feed a baby from

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>your body. Like there's just a lot of work. I

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>have one I can tell you from experience, And I

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just don't think it's funny because I think it's very

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>clear that having kids or heart is a hard thing.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>And Lisa, You're always like, who's telling you it's easy?

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Who is telling these teens that it's easy?

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>What mother is like, Oh, it was a breeze, even

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>though moms that are like moms aren't honest enough.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 3>It's hard.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, they're all honest, it's a fucking nightmare. Like

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen a new mom be like it's a breeze,

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<v Speaker 2>all stressed out right.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So, the pregnancy packed documentary The Gloss eighteen just had

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of girls like slowly swinging on swing sets,

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of talking about how they were maybe

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna move in with their boyfriend and they were all

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to get like spots in the daycare and stuff

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have two things to add one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very I was a very avid babysitter. I was

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a professional babysitter for a long time. Same and I

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 2>had a kid once. Tell me, my mom would like

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 2>you to stop eating all our bananas. What a bitch, Like,

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking care of your kid. I can't have one banana.

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Bananas are nineteen cents each, bitch, calm down.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And she wouldn't tell me. She made her son tell

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>me to stop eating the bananas. And he's like, yeah,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 2>my mom says you don't work hard enough.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you assholes, I'm telling you now, I can

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>tell you worked hard enough. Because that sounds like a

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>shitty family. Yeah, they're a capitalist family.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I also want to say, of all the crimes we

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>research and everything we watch, like, I don't know why,

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 2>it's so horrific to just see a pregnant tea and

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like pajama pant bottoms and a like a spaghetti strap

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 2>tank top just sitting in a tiny kitchen.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 3>There's something just so sad and horrific about it.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's weird because we're also, you know, researching Casey

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Anthony murdering her baby, and I'm like, this is worse.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>It's I don't know why.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 2>And a big thing about a lot of the interviews

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and pieces that the kids did was one of them

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Kyla was she said, there was never a moment where

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I would keep him, and the mom

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 2>is just nodding in the background, and I'm sure it's

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic thing, but it's just so crazy that abortions

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 2>not talked about at all.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we've said though not in the dock, but like

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>we've said, out of the eighteen pregnancies, there were definitely

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 1>a couple abortions, right, some eighteen of them didn't have kids.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, correct, Yeah.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>And one of the wild things that the school actually

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 2>had a daycare, but there were only seven spots, and

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>so the teens started like not fighting, but like they

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>had to get one of.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>The trouting out about getting childcare. Yeah, oh my god.

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 3>For those that.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, Kara's husband is what is it not a

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>postmaster like a dungeon master, a dungeon roleplay master.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 3>And so me Karen are from Megan Gaily.

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 2>We do a coven like weekly bi weekly, which fantasy

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>role play game. And I was a single mother once

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>every two weeks in a fantasy game for two hours

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>and I was stressed out about childcare.

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had to write Lisa's We had to write

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Lisa's characters child off to boarding school. Because Lisa was

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>just like she kept being like, well what do I

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.720
<v Speaker 1>do about my daughter? We were like, it doesn't matter.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>You have a fictional ten year old. Nobody cares like.

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>She was like, this is stressing me out. I was like,

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I love how you being a mom for two hours

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>every two weeks. It's just like untenable. You cannot handle it.

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 2>No, and now ad fucking getting a high school diploma.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just really really bad. And then you know, we

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>talk about like why this all got attention. It's a

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>poor town, it was a quiet fishing village. Does race

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 2>play a part in all this? Does class play a

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>part in all this? Like I'm sure there's tons of

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>high schools in America where tons of teens are getting pregnant.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>There was something so sensationalized about this Gloucester eighteen and

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 2>this pregnancy pact.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 3>That might not even be real.

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it sounds kind of like the school

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>created the idea of the pack to take blame off

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>their own shoulders because they were not providing contraception, not

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>providing education, you know, like, and so they were just like, oh,

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this isn't our fault. This is because they all schemed

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 1>together and came up with this crazy idea to get

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>pregnant together, to be Jamie lin Spears's together, and like

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah.

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>And then the one, if we can call hero and

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>all this is nurse Daily and she left her job

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and resigned and was like, fuck this, like, you guys

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 2>are not taking responsibility. We're not doing anything to help

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>these girls not get pregnant. And she would just mad

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>about all the hoopla and everything, and she's like, there

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>is an actual problem with teen pregnancies and not enough condoms,

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and let's help solve these problems. Like you said, So

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the nurse is like the one progressive, smart person in

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 2>all of this, and so she's kind of amazing. And yeah,

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the girls are just fucking moms.

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to say. That's the end. It's interesting.

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't really have a source, but I have read

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that like shows like teen Mom have actually pushed the

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>teen pregnancy rate down. I hope, so, because like it's

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like people are like they're glamorizing it. I'm like, I

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're really glamorizing it.

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>They're not making it seem good.

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 2>No, because all and teen mom any it's a depressing

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 2>show for sure.

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't watch it because it's too depressive for me.

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 2>And some of them ended up having second kids too,

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like within three years and stuff, which is shocking. But yeah,

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>like you, like we mentioned earlier, one of the girls

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>in an article is like like, ah, I didn't know

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be this hard, and.

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't know why you didn't know.

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I think when in eighth grade we were for extra

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 2>credit our health class, we can take a fake baby

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>home if we wanted, and I never wanted it. I

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 2>knew I wasn't going to have children from a very

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>young age. I was not interested in that. But there

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>was a girl I didn't like, and so when she

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>went to buy lune, I took her baby and I

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>put the head back over and over and over again

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>so she would get a bad grade. So that's my

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 2>experience with health class.

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I guess you know, people don't change.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Listen.

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring up the pregnancy packed Lifetime movie though, too.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Did you ever did you see that well, yeah, because

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I love fucking Thora Birch. I think she's amazing.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from now and then to American Beauty, fucking hocus Pocus.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 3>She really is so much of my childhood in ten years.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I love Thora Birch. Where is she? Let you Go?

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>The poster of that movie just had a resurgence because

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the entire cast of vander Pump Rules, a show that

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Lisa and I watch, recently became pregnant basically at the

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>same time, and they redid this part ignancy pac poster

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>with all of their faces on it, so you know,

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 1>just I'll put we'll post it on the Instagram if

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you're interested.

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so this is kind of a light crime,

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, in terms of where we're gonna

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 2>go in other episodes and compare to everything else. And

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:21.280
<v Speaker 2>SVU did an amazing job of taking just a chill

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>teen pregnancy situation and turning it into a suicide internet

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 2>death threat thing, which is great.

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>But he got murdered in the real pregnancy pact luckily.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 1>And they also kind of I mean, they did call

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it a pact, and they did it the same stuff,

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>but it was only four girls, like eighteen girls is

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a really really bonkers number of girls to get pregnant

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>at the same time in one high school, you're gonna

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>start putting some condoms and baskets at the library or something.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I just look at my life and I'm

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>so grateful for the travel and the partying and the

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>hangouts and the festivals and the parades I went to,

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>just all of these things that even when I hear

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 2>of people like that turned twenty two, get married, have

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a kid, and like our teachers, I'm like, wait, what

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 2>don't you want to see Thailand?

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I just am like.

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So confused by the rush to do those things.

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 3>So but if you know, if that's your choice, I.

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Saw Thailand, and now I have a kid, so that

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>makes me have to go anywhere again.

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I love the irony of Kara talking about them not

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 2>having access to contraception, and then in the background is

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the loudest screen daughter.

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 3>My daughter just slamming a Morocca against the ground.

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because I feel you're You're married, you have

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 2>a great partner, you have enough money for child's care,

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 2>you have friends with kids, and it's still a nightmare,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 2>not a nightmare, but it's still hard.

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It's still hard.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Tell me how you really feel about my life.

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just no, it is it is. It is

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a maniac Rosie. It's far Yeah, it's far from a nightmare.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 3>No, she's so cute.

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>But Rosie follows in her mother Kara's footsteps, and she's

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a busy baby. She's out there, she's opening drawers, she's

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>taking out bowls, she.

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Wants to go to the bar. Guard she's saying. She

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.439
<v Speaker 1>just started saying, oh fuck last week. So we're I mean,

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>you say nightmare, I say dream. I think I'm living

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>through is.

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I just meant in terms of even when you have

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a home and support and financial stability, it's always hard.

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>It's hard.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I accept when you're like one of the Real

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>housewives that has like three nannies per child and you're like,

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's so hard being a mom for you, it's not hard.

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Camille Grammar is tweeting about socialism today and I'm like, bitch,

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 2>you live off rich men.

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's socialism. What are you against? Anyways?

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for more housewives, go to our Patriot and I'm

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:44.479
<v Speaker 1>just kidding, calm, and we have an amazing guest. Oh yeah,

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we have a guest. That's gonna blow open a lot

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of questions we had about the episode. I'm really excited

0:48:49.640 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>that's coming up. Okay, guys are interview Coming up is

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>with a extremely talented filmmaker and actor from Brooklyn, New York.

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>She is now getting into the directing game and has

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a horror anthology movie coming out this year called Phobia's

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>so keep an eye out for that. She's also in

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>development on a project called Hunger on a possession movie,

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and you can catch you coming up in a movie

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 1>called Off Season, directed by Mickey Keating.

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 2>We are so thrilled that we got to interview Fidelia

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 2>aka Jess Varley.

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 3>People listening they can't look at we see you.

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's wild because Babes is one of our favorite

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>SVU episodes and you're just Fidelia and it's insane. And

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>what you did that very few people have done on

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 2>SVU is you do like a speech to Benson trying

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 2>to insult like it is the most ep web Benson,

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 2>your teen pregnant belly, and it is just it's amazing.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to hear about that scene and taping in everything.

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:49:56.000 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she's a real sassy one, isn't she it was

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 6>such a good experience. It was literally like I had

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 6>I had I went to the Guardia, so I like

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 6>started acting in high school and I'd done.

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 5>A couple of commercials, but that was like my first you.

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 6>Know, dramatic acting job on a set and honestly the

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 6>best thing. Like I mean, I just turned thirty, I'm

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 6>still working in the industry, and a lot of it

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:23.760
<v Speaker 6>has to do with that experience, because like I remember

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 6>getting on set and being like, wow, everybody eats together

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 6>and they're all friends, you know, because like usually, especially

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 6>commercial shoots, you know you're in, you're out.

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 5>It's a quick job.

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 6>But it was the first time I had really like

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 6>experienced It sounds cheesy, but it's like the first time

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 6>I really experienced community on a set. And I was

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 6>like I want that. I am also an only child, so

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 6>I was like Frans.

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, I always say being on a set is

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.760
<v Speaker 2>like summer camp. It's summer camp one thousand percent.

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 5>That's always what I say, too. Yes, it was really.

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 6>Good vibes, Like I mean, even Mariushka Hargatea was like

0:50:58.520 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 6>so sweetly be.

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 5>Like okay, so that's your mark, you know, like.

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 6>Explaining like a little you know, like she's kind of

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 6>coaching me through that.

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 5>They're so gracious and sweet.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 6>They work with you know, so many people coming through

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 6>there all the time. Everyone was great. I'm still friends

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 6>with Ray Bruso, who played my dad on the show.

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 6>We reconnected a couple of years ago, and everyone's great,

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 6>Like even Jesse McCarty. Like, I remember when we were

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 6>all eating lunch and like we had a bunch of

0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 6>shoots too. We'd already shot some stuff and we were

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 6>going to shoot after It's like the really dramatic scene

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 6>we're like.

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 5>He opens the door and rushes in and like we

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 5>embrace each other whatever.

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 6>I remember him just being like, okay, so after lunch,

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 6>like this is your money shot, you know it. It

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 6>was so sweet because everybody was so just like gracious

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 6>and sweet and helpful and nice and like, honestly, was

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 6>a great experience.

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch SVU before you go?

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to know the moment you got the call

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 2>that you got the part, like being your first big part, Like,

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>how do do you feel?

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.720
<v Speaker 5>I felt great? It was awesome.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 6>It also was like, you know, as an actor in

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 6>New York, you know, a young actor in New York,

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 6>you're like law and Order like and also this was

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 6>back in the day. This was before you know, there

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 6>was girls and all these shoes in this show shooting

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 6>in New York, so it was like you're either going

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 6>to be a Law and Order SVU, law and Order criminal.

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 5>Intent, you know.

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 6>It was like, yeah, were a soap opera basically, you know.

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 6>But I mean I was super thrilled. Like I remember

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 6>going in having the audition, and yeah, it was just

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 6>I remember even like I think at that point, like

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 6>I didn't even have a headshot, you know, like I

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 6>gave them a resume with a photo my friend took

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 6>of me, you know, like I printed out that I

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 6>printed out from my computer.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 5>I like paper.

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>But there was something about you that they were like,

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>she can tell Benson that she's too old.

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my god.

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, some of those lines.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hmm, it's like nobody ever sass is Benson

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that way you did, and then such that.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Benson just is like your kid might have cerebral palsy.

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 2>And then suddenly you like shrink a little bit, and.

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I did you did you know like the true story

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>of like the pregnancy Pact at all?

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 6>Yes, actually, because I think I had heard about it

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 6>in the news before this all happened, so I was aware,

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.879
<v Speaker 6>and it was like and also being like the quote

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 6>unquote ring leader of yes, like you know, because there's

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 6>also like I mean, there's some amazing people in the

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 6>episode too, like Britt Robertson's in.

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 3>It, Debbie Debbie Maze, like.

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm a blondie, but you know, all my

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 6>family in Brooklyn is super Italian. So I felt at

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 6>least like, Okay, I'm getting getting through to my roots here.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.720
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, yeah.

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 3>And Dezzer did you did you ever get to meet Dezzer?

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's funny.

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 6>Actually I'm trying to think did we have I guess

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 6>we didn't have a scene together, but yeah, when then

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 6>when you see him the way they have him and

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 6>like what good stoore like.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Yo yo whissle, Oh my man, a truly problematic character.

0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Wait, either this is all this will be a fun game.

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Either or Jesse McCartney or Dizzer Ooh.

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 6>I want to go as Jesse McCartney because he was

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 6>such a lovely guy. But then I feel like, knowing

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 6>myself in the past, I probably would have made the.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 5>Mistake of dating a dessert or too. You know what

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:29.879
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Wait, I'm not really positive about the timeline. But was

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Jesse McCartney.

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He was already like kind of a teen heart Throbs

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>singer at that time, right, So were you kind.

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 5>Of yeah, oh, Deely Harvey.

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 6>I think Actually, funnily enough, I don't think I knew

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 6>that we were cast popposite each other, like until I

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 6>got to set that night and I was like, oh, Jesse,

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 6>that's my name. And then I was like Jesse Jesse.

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.800
<v Speaker 5>Again and I was like, oh, it's Jesse McCartney.

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 6>I mean I especially like at the time too, like totally,

0:54:58.560 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, I was like, oh my god, this is

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 6>this is great and again and he was just so sweet,

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Like I honestly can't tell you how nice he was.

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.799
<v Speaker 6>Like everyone really just took their time and was just

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know it really even still to say, I'm like, man,

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 6>everyone really like it was a very good introduction to

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 6>like the community.

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I bet curious about like hair and makeup

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and the belly.

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 3>How long did it take, Like how did they make

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the belly?

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It looks so real by the way, like it looks

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like true skin when you're like rubbing it.

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 6>Well, there there actually is a body double for the

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 6>double the one shot where I rube the pregnant belly,

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 6>that is a true price.

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew of it and like that cannot be still

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a cone like it looks like real skin Detective now.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 5>It just comes out. So yeah, it was like it

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 5>was a body double and my belly because.

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 6>I remember because especially because I did it again on

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 6>the other episode. It's basically like you know, it's it's

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 6>made out of like sort of like a foam, you know,

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 6>and it's like a bump, and then you put on

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 6>spanks over it and and that's the look, and then

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 6>they can adjust it depending on how many months they

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 6>want you to be. Like there was I think there

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 6>might have even not like a pillow underneath, but it

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.320
<v Speaker 6>was like they could stuff stuff underneath it to basically

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 6>make it go out further. But yeah, once I put

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 6>it on the second time, I was like, what's happening here?

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 5>This is weird.

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 2>And then another thing we're so curious about within the

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.280
<v Speaker 2>episode is is that a body double?

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Hang?

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean you have a tragic murder. Oh you know,

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>it's all fun and games and then your hair's a

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 2>ceiling fan.

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 5>Dad.

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 6>My dad is still having trouble unseeing this image. It

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 6>actually is me hanging up there. And the way they

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 6>do it is they basically put you in a harness

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 6>that your clothes and it like holds your feet from

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 6>the bottom, and you know, you just, oh my gosh,

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 6>it was weird, like even for me afterwards, Like, you know,

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 6>I didn't really think much of it because you're acting.

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 5>It's a quick shot, but like afterwards I kind of

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 5>was like I was sort of.

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 6>Like a weird position to be in. Yeah, it's like

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 6>cray perspective for sure.

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how long did you have to hang there for

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the scene?

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 6>I think it was pretty quick because it's like they

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 6>just come in and see me there.

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, at any given time.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, it was probably just a couple of minutes,

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 6>Like we try to shoot it out pretty quick.

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any funny stories from the set

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>or like any goss so much.

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 5>Kind of think of anything juicy. I mean, I mean

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 5>I was.

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Only like probably sixteen when we shot it, So my

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 6>mom was on set with me at the time. And

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 6>my mom is she has like a background in social

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 6>work and you know, a lot of the SVU content stuff,

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 6>and I remember like Marishima Hargetty's.

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 5>Lines in that scene.

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 6>She had like triple the lines and it was so

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 6>wordy that even she was like, can we cut this down?

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, She's like, oh, you're line for support, you know,

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 6>food stamps, and like it just kept going on and

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 6>on and on, and my mom.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Like kind of chimes in.

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 6>She's like, you know, I don't want to interrupt, but

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 6>actually some of this is factually incorrect.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Actually the writers are with her. The writers are with

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 5>my mom.

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 6>Like, oh okay, tell us, tell us. So I was like, well,

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 6>actually you know what would happen is this, this and this,

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 6>and they're like okay, okay. They literally took my mom's notes,

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 6>which is hilarious. And surely after that, you know, I

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 6>started going to these things on my own, of course,

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 6>but you know, at the time, you know, and again

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 6>also everyone was so sweet to her, like, you know,

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 6>they gave for like a little director's chair to sit in,

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 6>and but they legit took my mom's notes.

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I hope she got a consultant with me.

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, she might be owned that.

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Were you embarrassed or were you into it?

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 6>I was super embarrassed, super embarrassed, like, oh my god, Mom,

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 6>please stop.

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 6>But in the in the end, I think I think

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 6>Hargeta was pretty relieved because it helped cut down some

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 6>of the tongue twisters that she'd been trying to get out.

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Jess, having a awesome rest of

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 1>your day, so fun.

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Thank you. It was awesome.

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:14.320
<v Speaker 3>That was incredible.

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what a dream, What a treat.

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I like that every gives us what we want to hear,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 2>which is that Mariska is an angel on earth.

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and everybody, I mean everybody has that. We've heard

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 1>sus a well oiled machine. It's a family, it's a community.

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, Lisa, I just can't believe you couldn't

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>get it together to hand that paper to somebody and

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just get a small part on the show. You could

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have been eating lunch feet away from Marishka targeted.

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 2>This needs to be caught the most successful podcast in

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the world, and that we'll get.

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much did Yeah, we did that for this reason.

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like trying to get we're playing the long game.

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we could play like jew Evil Sisters.

0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or I would even be like arguing with you

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 1>walking down the street and.

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 3>We like, see that hang out of a bush.

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I also loved hearing that Jess was really hanging from

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling fan.

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the body double, I got that. Oh that

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 3>was so good. But and I thought there was a

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 3>body double for the hanging and no man. And I'm

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:21.080
<v Speaker 3>glad her dad was what's it called tortured by it?

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 3>And what did you that her.

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Dad like, can't get the image out of his head?

1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably torture by it. Yeah.

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to say my number one lesson that I

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.160
<v Speaker 2>would like to give to everyone for this post mortem

1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is get an abortion.

1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.680
<v Speaker 2>What I don't understand in the real town and in

1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>the fake town, all of it. Yeah, it's these kids

1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:45.160
<v Speaker 2>being like I never thought of anything else.

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm horrified.

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And when Olivia Benson tells you here's X y Z,

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.919
<v Speaker 1>like twenty reasons why this is not a good idea, Yeah,

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like running to plan parenthood.

1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just please encourage people to get abortions. You

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 2>don't need to have a baby at sixteen. And it's

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:04.760
<v Speaker 2>just tough for me because I sound extra judgmental and

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 2>crazy because I just don't want to have children and

1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I never have had the urge, so sometimes I just

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>truly don't understand.

1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I understand that. And it's just like, if

1:01:15.520 --> 1:01:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you think that it's not going to completely alter your

1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:21.320
<v Speaker 1>life when you're sixteen and seriously hinder a lot of

1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:22.680
<v Speaker 1>your dreams, you're crazy.

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Because we know adults that are getting having babies and

1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, this bitch is not going.

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 3>To handle it. Oh yeah, this bitch does not know

1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:31.280
<v Speaker 3>what she's about to get into it.

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>But people in their mid thirties where I'm like, this

1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to go. Well, yeah, I mean, you're a

1:01:36.320 --> 1:01:40.160
<v Speaker 1>great mother, thank you. I love watching you parent. It's

1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like you're organized as hell.

1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.440
<v Speaker 2>You plan everything, you keep you keep track of the foods,

1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>when are they napping, what's going on, And still it's

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a nightmare.

1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:51.640
<v Speaker 3>You're the most prepared person. You're on top of it,

1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and we basically.

1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Just observing a nightmare the whole time.

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Because your kids.

1:01:56.680 --> 1:02:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Are so cute, well you're k yeah, like Rosie's so cute,

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.240
<v Speaker 2>but it's still I walk I watched her just walk

1:02:03.280 --> 1:02:04.160
<v Speaker 2>into a hot tub.

1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's wearing floaties. Everybody.

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 2>We have to give another lesson, don't cyber bully teens.

1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:12.800
<v Speaker 2>If you're a grown up, yeah, even if you're a teen.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a teen, don't do it. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a grown up, especially, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, don't go for a white guy named Dezzer who's

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to be a DJ and like a player. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta just stay with Steer clear of dessert.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not date them, do not fuck them.

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<v Speaker 2>They will not pay child support, right, yeah, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't don't use your black scent to a black

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<v Speaker 2>police officer to try to get friendly with them.

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<v Speaker 3>They won't like it. They're not gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say, steer clear of the abstinence club in

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<v Speaker 1>high school if your high school even has one, Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>could they be more boring these people?

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to admit that in high school, I

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<v Speaker 2>try to start a no smoking club because I was

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<v Speaker 2>anti cigarettes, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Lisa, I am dying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked all these teachers, I'm like, will you be

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher sponsor to my no smoking club?

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<v Speaker 3>And every teacher was like, They're like, I'll let you

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<v Speaker 3>know after my cigarette break. That is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like our virgin lungs. Like you're like the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as a chastity club.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was smoking Newport's junior year, so like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the same with abstinence.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know my senior I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really an academic and I went to a weird evangelical college,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't that hard. But my senior paper and

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<v Speaker 2>everything was about the concept of virginity absence only education,

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<v Speaker 2>and virginity is not real women. Sex is not for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody like fuck to have a good time. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>be abstinent unless you really want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, unless that's what's in your heart, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're tricking you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're tricking you, and you're thinking, like teen Dick is

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<v Speaker 2>going to change your life or it's just it's taught weird,

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<v Speaker 2>it's awful. I don't know, it's just too much shame,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just too much. I just I'll tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Teen Dick then never done changed anybody's life in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So I think that's we're putting that on a

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt. That's a merch. That's a merch. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a merch. I'd yeah, we learned Debbie maysar a queen

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Debbie Mays are untouchable, Madonna's best friend untouchable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end, you know, if all else fails,

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<v Speaker 2>your ex boyfriend who has burned to death's dad might

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<v Speaker 2>help you out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you forgot about that. That was sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a sweet ending. That was a sweet ending.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and don't let don't peer pressure sucks. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>get peer pressured by your friends to get pregnant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a dark one, but not dark.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This was fun. No, I mean, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in real life was many of them had

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, but a few of them got abortions. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to talk to both sides and see who's having

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<v Speaker 1>a better time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the abortion parent, they hid their kids. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not talking to my kids. We're not too pressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The only ones that probably did press are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that had the baby because they need some money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like I don't know what they got from

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<v Speaker 1>like that Amazon doc. You and I paid for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know how many other people are bringing

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Anyway, that's our post mortem for today's episode. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you take everything you learn there and you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Have sex as a team.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wear a condom, yeah, make sure it's for your

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure and not with a dizzer.

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<v Speaker 1>Never with a dizzer. Okay, and now it is time

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<v Speaker 1>for a WWSPD what would Sister peg do? Where we

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<v Speaker 1>direct you towards resources information that have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the topic that we tackled in today's episode. Obviously teen pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>something that we talked very thoroughly about, and we would

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<v Speaker 1>like to have everybody obviously check out Planned Parenthood. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of misconceptions about Planned Parenthood that they're only about abortions.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually provide a myriad of medical services for women

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<v Speaker 1>that are extremely important. I am a super proud supporter

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<v Speaker 1>of Planned Parenthood. I donate in Mike Pence's name every

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<v Speaker 1>single month. So just go to www dot planned parenthood

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<v Speaker 1>dot org and check out how you can get more

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<v Speaker 1>information about your local chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>And next week we'll be covering Counterfeit, which is season three,

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<v Speaker 2>episode fourteen. As always, you can watch all of us

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<v Speaker 1>I guess another thing, people if you're like driving in

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