1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I know we're uh, we're releasing this on 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: election day. It has nothing to do with election day, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: but we thought maybe you might need a little distraction 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: today so you're not sitting around worrying and freaking out. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Just so listen for an hour and relax. It's a 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: great show. And don't forget to go vote. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Go vote. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: If you haven't voted, go vote first and then come back. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: We'll wait, just pause it and go vote and then 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: come back. All right, Scotty, are you ready? 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Kurt? I am ready. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Man arrested after repeatedly calling nine to one one about restaurants, 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: small clans. 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's get into bananas. 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: Don't world up. He would tell you my sillion pieces. 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Bananas. I am Kurt Brown or. 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: I am Scotty landis Banana Boy number two. And thank 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: you for listening to the silliest little podcast there ever 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: was Kurt. Before we bring on our guests, I just 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: want to give a shout out real quick. I've been 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: getting a lot of calls on the Banana's phone from nurses, 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: tons from nurses coming off long shifts, and I just 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: want to say thank you. I guess we can. We 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: could dedicate this one to the nurses out there. 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and as we all know, I don't know 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: if you guys know, my mom was a pediatric nurse 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: for fifty years. Nurses hold a very soft spot in 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: my heart. You guys are doing amazing work, and often 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I find disrespected by doctors, and so I say, fuck 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: doctors with nurses. 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: Well until next week. Then we'll dedicate that. 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, then we'll tell the nurses to Yeah, but April 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: and Texas and Samantha and Maine and the one young 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: lady who called me crying. Uh, we're glad to make 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: you laugh. Thanks for listening. This one's for y'all. Kurt, 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: get into. 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: It, and thank you for doing what you're doing. 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Now. 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: God, it's tough, all right. We have such an amazing 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: guest today. Very excited. She is an Emmy Award winning journalist, 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: science communicator, television personality, author. 42 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: And podcast amazing. 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: She is the science correspondent on National Geographics, Brain Games, 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: and the creator and host of the weekly science podcast 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Talk Nerdy. Please welcome Kara Santa Maria. 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, guys, Hey, are you hi? 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 6: That makes me sound fancy? 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, you are fancy. 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: He yes, I. 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 5: Don't feel like it both days. Most days, I'm just 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: slogging through. Man. 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: That's kind of what it's about right now. We're all 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: just kind of surviving. I'm counting it by handles of 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: Tito's at this point. I'm like, I'm like twenty five 55 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: handles of Tito's in this year. 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 5: I'm literally eating a Trader Joe's protein muffin while we're recording. 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: It's a protein muffin in a little cup. 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you microwave it. It's like so epic. 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: You do understand science. That's cool. 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: This is the best part I love to get. As 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: we always say, super smart people to talk about the 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: dumbest things in the world. Do you want to hear 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: about this dumb guy? 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 7: Kara? 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, I love hearing about dumb guys. Is he 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: in Florida? 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I think he is? I bet Yep, it's in Stuart, Florida. 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Of course, there it is. 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 6: Did I guess that was my deductive reason. 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: This one was sent in again by at Matt dot 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: TeV dot AM's or Ans. I don't know, but this 72 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: is a second one for Matt. Congratulations. 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: I think it's Matt Evans. Is it Matt Evans. 74 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: When you're saying that his name might be Matt Evans. 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: He's put the periods in real weird places, all right, 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: So a Matt thank you for this from Fox News. 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: This is by Alexander Diebler. The debes coming in this 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: one okay man in Stuart, Florida found himself in trouble 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: with the law after trying to report a restaurant for 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: having to the police for having small clams. Nelson Augusta 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: ordered a seafood meal at Krabby Seafood Shack in the 82 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: coastal town, but was disappointed upon seeing the size of 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: the clams. On in the incident report, an employee warned 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Augusto about the size of the clams before he placed 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: his order, but he insisted on having clams. After the 86 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: fifty one year old received his food, he complained to 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: the restaurant about the size of the clams and the 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: meal quote. He was complaining that the clams he were 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: eating were so small he didn't want to pay for them, 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: said the police sergeant. The restaurant responded to his complaints 91 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: by giving him another order of clams for free, so generous. 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: Augusto still felt the clams were too small and called 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: nine to report them. Uh. And then in the nine 94 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: one one report he says, I ordered something and it 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: was extremely so small. He was advised by the dispatcher 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: to call the non emergency police line, which she gave 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: him the number four twice. Soon after, Augusta called nine 98 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: one one two more times to complain about the clams, 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: and then that's it. They arrested him. Ah good, I 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: think that's good. 101 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an abuse of the utilization, Like his tiny 103 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: clams may have prevented somebody who was having a heart 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 5: attack from getting the help he needs. 105 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Exactly what I can you can you tie up that? 106 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: Yeah? 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: You could tie up operators on nine one? 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 109 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 111 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: Also to play Devil's advocate, how how small were these clams? 112 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: For a rest for a seafood restaurant called Krabby's to 113 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: tell somebody over the phone that these are there? Why 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: are they serving these? Are they smaller than a penny? 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Like? 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Were they comically small? We're gonna have to find out. 117 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: God true, Like like a decent restaurant takes things off 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 5: the menu if they can't source eat good ingredients, right, 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: And maybe maybe I'm biased and spoiled because I live 120 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: in LA and like, we have really good restaurants here. 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: But I've definitely been to restaurants before where I'm like, 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: I'd love the blah blah blah. They're like, we, you know, 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: the hazel nuts supply is not where it needs to be, 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: so we're not serving that dish right now. Oh yeah, 125 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 5: And you're like, oh okay, all right. But instead they're 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: like they're really small. 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: They're really small, you still want them. This is Crabby's 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: Seafood Shack, guys. It's a shack. 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: It's a shack. 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna they get what they get, and they're giving 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: you what they get. 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: That's it. 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: That's how the shack works. 134 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: I yes, I love too that the dispatcher was like 135 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: call the non emergency police sees. No, she should have 136 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: been like, hang up the phone and don't call back. 137 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 6: This is ridiculous. 138 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: And even the cop you read like a specific quote 139 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: from what the cop said in the police repert why 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: did he take a polee? 141 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 6: Why wasn't he just like goodbye? 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: This is a way cut. 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: That's true. 144 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: It's amazing too. It's like to call the NANO, Like 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: imagine calling three one one, Like even on the three 146 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: one one app there is definitely no section for small clams, 147 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It's like you need 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a tree cut, That's pretty much it. 149 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also just like keep sending this guy clams 150 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: until he stops calling, just keep sending him order after 151 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: order until he's just like fine, it's fine, it's fine. 152 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: Like at some point you just have to retaliate in 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: this world and just be like, you know what, We're 154 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: gonna just put bags and bags of tiny clams right 155 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: outside your door until you stop calling nine one one, like. 156 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, just mail them through like the snail mail. 157 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 5: So he's just getting lots of room temperature clams for 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: weeks on end. 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: This guy, And what is it but a misdemeanor. I think, 160 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like a felony. 161 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: Maybe it is, but they didn't even they didn't actually 162 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: even take him in, so they arrested him, but they 163 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: never let he never left his house, so he's not 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: currently in jail. He just has to go to court. 165 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: Man. 166 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: Can I just say, and this is gonna be my 167 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: like social justice age that I need to scratuate. 168 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 6: That right there? Is he a white man. 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Let's see, we have to say that Nelson Augusto a G. 170 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: Could go either way, could go anywhere, could. 171 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: Go either way. 172 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: But I would definitely be interested to see if that 173 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: is like absolute white privilege right there, being able to 174 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: abuse the emergency line and then the cops come and 175 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: like take time out of their day and then say, like, 176 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: go on. 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: It's one of two things. It's one of two things. 178 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: It's white privilege or it's meth. And because I've found these. 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 6: Two things are not mutually excluded. 180 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: That they are not. But I've all still found like 181 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: repeatedly calling nine one one seems to be a thing 182 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: that people on meth do do. It's like that asmissive 183 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: compulsive kind of like a part of it. 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely makes sense if you're like under the 185 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: influence of something that is causing you to feel kind 186 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: of an immediate anxiety. 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: Yes, and you're trying to get that relieved. 188 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, that's when you should probably take their access to 189 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: the telephone exact way. 190 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard that one where the guy 191 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: called because he had he ate too many pot brownies? 192 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, the actual yes. 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 6: And he's like I think I'm dying. 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: Oh that wasn't just a guy that was a cop, 195 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: that wasn't all his duty. 196 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: But I can't remember did he think he was dying 197 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: because of the bo or did he think he was 198 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: already dead. 199 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 3: It was like he and his wife had eaten them 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: and then he was sure he was dying and he knew. 201 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: You can hear like the tremble in his voice that 202 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: he knows that he's a cop and he's going to 203 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: get in trouble for it. I actually ran in a 204 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: show called What's Your Emergency that was real nine one 205 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: one calls that were funny ish but then re enacted 206 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: by comedians and actors, and we did the pilot and 207 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: the best one was this guy calls, just screaming, oh. 208 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: And so in certain states, all of that stuff's public record. 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: It's like you can just get it. Florida is one 210 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: of those states. That's probably why this story exists. Yeah, 211 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: So this guy calls and the first thing you hear 212 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: is just oh, and so you're like, here we go, 213 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: and they're like, sir, He's like, I'm turning into a werewolf. 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: And they goes, sir, you okay, because like my stomach 215 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: hurts so bad, I'm turning into a were wolf and 216 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: they're like, is there anybody there with you? And then 217 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: he puts on his step dadd is like step uncle 218 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: some guy. And the guy's like, what's up with him? 219 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: And he's just like, he's over here. 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 221 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: He's in pain. He tells me he's turned into a 222 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: were wolf. It's a full moon. And they're like okay, 223 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: and he's like, have you tried giving him pepto bismo? 224 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Do? 225 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: And it works and the guys and then they just 226 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: kind of hang up. It's like a ten minute call. 227 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: It's on YouTube, you can go find it. But it's 228 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: just like he's just like yeah, and he takes bepto 229 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: bismo and then stops turning into a world. 230 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love that. Also, I know, I 231 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: love that they knew exactly what to do. 232 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 6: Yes, me too, That's great. 233 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: And also I feel like that is a legitimate utilization 234 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 5: of emergencies. 235 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: Yes, like he was, yeah, he actually. 236 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: Thought he was turning into a wear well, whether that 237 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: was a mental health issue or he just is a 238 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: believer and he did not feel well and was like 239 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 5: I think I read. 240 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: About this somewhere. This is the first sign. 241 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 5: But either way, he was in crisis, and they helped 242 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 5: him out of his crisis, and I think that's amazing. 243 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: There was another one I can mention really briefly. It's 244 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: probably a forty second call, and it's exactly to your point, Karen. 245 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: It's like this woman calls nine one one. She is 246 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: in her car in a Walgreens parking lot and it's 247 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: getting very hot and her car won't start, and she's 248 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: starting to panic and she's saying, it is so hot, 249 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: and somebody comes over here and my battery's dead and 250 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: I need help because I can't breathe and it's getting 251 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: so hot in here. And then nine to one one 252 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: operator dispatcher is a woman who just goes, ma'am, just 253 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: get out of the car. She goes, it's in a 254 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: electronic lock and I cannot get out, and she goes, ma'am, 255 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: can you just reach over and unlock the car? And 256 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: she goes, can I but and then she call them. 257 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: She goes, yeah, okay, that worked, and then she just 258 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: she forgot you could unlock manually unlock your car. And 259 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: she's sitting in her dead batteried car in a Walgreen's 260 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: parking lot, sweating, thinking she's good. I mean, this is 261 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: these people, these dispatchers, should get paid twenty percent more. 262 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 263 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 5: It's interesting how much your cognitive capabilities are, like really. 264 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 6: Overridden when you're in panic mode. 265 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: I actually just recently did a training because I started 266 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 5: I'm working on my PhD in clinical psychos now, so 267 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: I'm like kind of in my last go of my 268 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 5: clinical predoctoral hours that I have to collect before I 269 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: can do my internship. Don't ask me why. As somebody 270 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 5: in her late thirties, I thought it would be a 271 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: good idea school. But so I am doing a rotation 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: at a big hospital here in Los Angeles, and there's 273 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: a law in LA. It's not the hospital, it's the 274 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 5: actual LA city law due to some historical. 275 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 6: Not great things that you have to take this really 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 6: intensive fire safety train. 277 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 278 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, really, it's like a four hour intensive fire safety 279 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: training anybody who works in an LA hospital. So I'm 280 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: sitting in this training and I'm learning all sorts of things, 281 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: like here we go, this is a fun quiz. 282 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 6: What is the. 283 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: Number one thing to remember in a fire that nobody 284 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: does and could probably prevent like ninety percent of debt. 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Don't open doors. 286 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 6: Closed doors. Did you do the same training. That's amazing. 287 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 6: Most people do not know that. 288 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 5: So like it's not just don't open doors, but close 289 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: all doors behind you if you're exiting, if you are 290 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 5: stuck and there's a fire between you and the front door, 291 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 5: or like you can't get outside a don't try to 292 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: run through the fire because you might just like smoke inhale, 293 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 5: drop it in your tracks, and then then there's a 294 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 5: whole other mess that the fire department has toal with it. 295 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: Let's say you're in your bedroom, close the door, open 296 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 5: the window, breathe the fresh air. All doors in California 297 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 5: are fire rated doors, so they all provide you protection. 298 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: It's legal, like it's a manufacturer requirement, and they're different 299 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 5: fire ratings, like in a hospital you might have a 300 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: two hour door. You might just have a twenty minute 301 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: day when you're like crappy apartment, but still it's enough 302 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 5: time for the fire department generally to get to you, 303 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 5: to put out the flames and then take you away. 304 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: And he told so many stories of people like their 305 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: apartment caught on fire and they ran fleeing, and even 306 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: though they were safe, they forgot or they didn't think 307 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: to close doors behind them on the way, and so 308 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 5: every other apartment caught off fire, multiple people would die. 309 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 6: I mean, it's like the number one that. 310 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: You should always do is close doors, and people don't 311 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 5: know it. And I think that we often do exactly 312 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: the opposite of what we're supposed to do when we're 313 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: in a panic situation. Like if you're on fire physically right, 314 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: you're supposed to stop dropping and roll. 315 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: Most people run, yeah, which is the. 316 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: One worst thing to do. Jump in the toilet. 317 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: It's like I'm running and I'm the flames are just 318 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: getting bigger, and I'm also catching things on fire as 319 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: I It's like the exact opposite of. 320 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 6: What you should do. 321 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: I cut out the first two I just roll. I 322 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: just as soon as I'm on fire, I'm rolling. I'm 323 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: not even stopping. I'm just I'm not stopping. I'm not dropping. 324 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna start rolling the second I see even 325 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: when I smell smoke, I roll around. 326 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 6: And do you know, do you know what this this 327 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 6: fire fire officer? 328 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: What has got firefighter actually told us we should do 329 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: if somebody else is on. 330 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 6: Fire, a blanket trip them, oh, because like. 331 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: Get them on the ground, no matter what you do. 332 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: You could tackle them, you could kick their foot out 333 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: underneath them, get them on the ground so they can roll, 334 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: or so you can, yes, mother the flames, but get 335 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 5: them on. 336 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's so I love I love this. I 337 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: love all this information I know. 338 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: I learned so awesome. Wow. 339 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: And that's why in the in the UH everywhere in 340 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: a hospital has the double closing doors that automatically yeas 341 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: on every single floor. 342 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, so like when the fire alarm goes off, and 343 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: that's the other thing he said, He's like. 344 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: Pull the fire alarm. 345 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: We were taught so much as kids because we're trying 346 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: to avoid like jokes and things. But like if there's 347 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: a fire, even if you put it out on your own, 348 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: pull the fire alarm because it might reignite, there may 349 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: be other smoke problems, like they you need to alert 350 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: people and so. And also in big buildings like that, 351 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 5: when you pull the fire alarm, all the fire doors 352 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: close automatically, sprinklers go off in certain zones. Like there's 353 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 5: mitigation efforts there that people don't realize are all a 354 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: chain reaction. 355 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I remember I was in college. We had a house 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, Maryland, and we had this big house and 357 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: like we're all kind of asleep. It's like Saturday morning. 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: And then our friend, our roommate, Darby, had decided that 359 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: like he was done. I think it was Darby. He 360 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: broke up with his girlfriend and so he was going 361 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: to burn every letter smart written her. And so he 362 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: was in the backyard burning all of these like poems 363 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: and like letters smart aside outside true. But then we're 364 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: woking up By and there's sixteen firefighters, someone called the 365 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: firefighters on Darby, who's just like this little punk kid 366 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: who had just been writing all of his heart and 367 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: he's just heartbroken and burning letters in the backyard. And 368 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: then we have these like a Jax and Hercules type 369 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: men like running through our place with giant staffs with 370 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: like hooks on them, and every hungover and it's terrified. 371 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: Got his Saturday boarding? 372 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 6: Oh Darby, how did it end up? 373 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: Like? 374 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 6: Were they did? They commiserate where they're like, oh, bro, 375 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: I'm so sorry to. 376 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Get fill up a fill up a bowl with water. 377 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: We filled up a bowl with water and then they 378 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: poured it on there and then they all walked out. 379 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh Darby, oh. 380 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Derby, all right, it's gotta give me another one. 381 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: Sure. 382 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: This one is in honor of Carol also co hosts 383 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: The Skeptics Guide to the Universe and James Randy died 384 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: this week. 385 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: He did. 386 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Did you know him? Did you meet him many times? Yeah? 387 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 6: Many times. 388 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 5: He was a big friend. I mean, he was a 389 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 5: huge supporter of the show. Like obviously he was an 390 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 5: architect of the skeptic movement. So when SGU fifteen years 391 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: ago started, I had nothing to do with the show 392 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 5: when it started. 393 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 6: He he always worked with them. They were like best friends. 394 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 5: I came on about five six years ago, but even 395 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: just in that amount of time, I probably met him 396 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: a dozen I've sat on. 397 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 6: Panels with him. He's been on the show fascinating. 398 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: Massive los, Yeah, massive loss and for the for the 399 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: ban animals that don't know, there's a documentary that's wonderful 400 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: about him. He wrote a book called Flimflam that I 401 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: feel like everybody should have on their bookshelf, no matter what. 402 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: It's Basically he debunks mentalists and like some types of homeopathy, 403 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: and he just basically looked for things that didn't seem 404 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: like they were real and then would figure including magic. 405 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: He would he would figure out magic tricks. This guy 406 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: was like somebody that got in there and would be like. 407 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 6: Oh yeah. 408 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: And he was a magician too, like a really really 409 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 5: respected magician. 410 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Interesting guy. 411 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: Our friend Kurt and I have a friend named Nick 412 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: Pruer who does this thing called found Footage Festival. And 413 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: when James when Randy died, he posted that he went 414 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: and saw him giving a lecture where he opened the 415 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: lecture this is when he was in his eighties. He 416 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: opened a bottle of herbal sleeping pills and he proceeded 417 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: to take fifty of them in a row with water 418 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: swaing at the beginning of the beginning of his presentation, 419 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: just to prove. And then this eighty year old man, 420 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: after taking fifty herbal sleeping pill just was like these 421 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: aren't real and I'm gonna and then talk for two 422 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: hours about other things. 423 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: That oh, that's so great. That go to is the best. 424 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that so much. 425 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: And I love that away. 426 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: Here's a story in uh that parallels that. So this 427 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: was from Jemma Carr who sent it to us on Instagram. 428 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and written by Alexandra Diebler of 429 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: Fox News. 430 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: What I knows, deebs. 431 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: When you think great work, you think Alexander Diebler. She 432 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: types internet stuff better than almost anybody. Peraneum Sonning leaves 433 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: Josh Brolin's crazy burned as doctor's warren against viral wellness trend. 434 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: Per neeum Sonning leaves Josh Brolin quote crazy burned as 435 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: doctor's worn against viral wellness trend. Okay Sun's out buns out. 436 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: See Alexandra knows how to grab you with the first 437 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: sentence I'm. 438 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: In, I'm in, I love her. 439 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: A contra vers shoal new wellness practice that encourages tanning 440 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: one of the body's more delicate areas has made. 441 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Its way to Hollywood shocking Oh. 442 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: No too seemingly disastrous effects. Actor Josh Brolin tried out 443 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: the perineum sunning. Now, for those listening home that don't 444 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: know what a parandem is, it's a taint or a 445 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: gooch or a joint or whatever you call that little 446 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: stamp sized space between your butthole and what she got 447 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: up front. Uh So peraneum sunning, which touts the alleged 448 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: benefits of tanning the thin area of skin between the 449 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: anis vagina penis. The practice has recently gained game steam. 450 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: I mean, why why it's people literally say where the 451 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: sun don't shine like. 452 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: It's are they on their shoulders with those eggs spread. 453 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: They're on their backs with their legs in the air, 454 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: pointing that that special place directly. 455 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: An bed or for the sun the sun. It's oh, Kurt, 456 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: it's gotta be the sun. 457 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 6: You can't fit in a tanning that way, can you? 458 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 459 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and we're closing. 460 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: I get spray tan there all the time. It's a 461 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: lot safer. 462 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: The practice has recently game steam after a video posted 463 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: by holistic influencer Raw of Earth suggested that quote sunning 464 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: end quote, claiming that it provides one with more energy 465 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: from the sun in thirty seconds than you would in 466 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: an entire day being outside with your clothes on. 467 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I love this energy from the sun. This is a 468 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: human being who's never gone to the beach before been 469 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: exhausted because they were in the sun all day long. 470 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 471 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: Another influencer who goes by Metaphysical Megan, also made headlines 472 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: for her similar claves of Pernian sunning for the benefits 473 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: of health and energy. However, what Raw of Earth and 474 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: Metaphysical Megan failed to mention was do not overdo it 475 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: with the vitamin D A lesson Brolin learned the hard way. 476 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: Here's what Brolin said on his Instagram post, quote, try 477 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: this permium sunning that I've been hearing about, and my 478 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: suggestion is do not do it. As long as I did, 479 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: my pucker hole is crazy burned and I was going 480 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: to spend the day shopping with my family. Instead, I'm 481 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: icing and alloing with burned creams because of the severity 482 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: of the pain. 483 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: End quote. 484 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: He also strung shared it on his Instagram with a 485 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: string of cursewords, calling out the stupid trend that may 486 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: in fact be detrimental to ones. How thousands of people 487 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: in social media have been sharing their bum sunning tactic, 488 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: many touting it gives them way. 489 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: More energy, I mean, come on. 490 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: Aside from Brolin, Shaley Woodley, very great actress, was an 491 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: early adoptee of sunning one's nether regions. She son bathes 492 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: her vagina recharge quote. I was reading an article written 493 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: by an herbalist about us and actions and other genital issues, 494 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: and she said, there's nothing better than vitamin D. If 495 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: you're feeling depleted, go in the sun for an hour 496 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: and see much how much energy you get. I know 497 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: Cara is shaking her head so hard and thank god 498 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: she is blah blah blah. And then as a dermatologist 499 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: with the interview doctors. As a dermatologist, I cannot recommend 500 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: any sun exposure without sun protection, said doctor Nazine Nazanine Sayid, 501 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: director of the Jefferson Laser Surgery and Cosmetic Dermatology Center. 502 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: These areas, just like any other area of the body, 503 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: do need sun protection, and clothing tends to provide it. 504 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: They recommend getting vitamin D through diet instead of pointing 505 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: your taint at the sky. 506 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: Right. 507 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: You know what? 508 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: Also, we evolve to be bipedal like our taints. 509 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 6: Wait, do girls have. 510 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, little little tiny okay. 511 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: Yes, the paranea equal take never exactly exactly until there 512 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 5: are not so there. The paraneum did not evolve to 513 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 5: be within the sun's rays like it's It is very sensitive. 514 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 6: I can only like, how. 515 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 5: Do people not realize that they would be burning their 516 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 5: nether regions? 517 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: I think it's great, guys there go. I like, if 518 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: you think that pointing your asshole at the sun for 519 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: a long period of time is going to give you energy, 520 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: I want you to do it. And I don't. And 521 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be bummed out if you can't 522 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: go shopping with your wife and children. You have children 523 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: and you were outside. 524 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: Just putting the. 525 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: But your butthole burnt, then you you can deserve everything 526 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: you get. Josh Brolin, come on, but. 527 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: This is why I get pissed, right. This is kind 528 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: of like the bread and butter of the skeptic sky. 529 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 5: And like you just mentioned the amazing Randy And you 530 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 5: know what we do as skeptics is we often have 531 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: to push past the like what's the harm rhetoric when 532 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 5: it comes to pseudoscience, and we have to say no, 533 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: but let's talk about the legitimate harm. And okay, it 534 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: is funny, of course that these people are like burning 535 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 5: their bumble heels and that you know, if that were 536 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: the only harm, that would be one thing. But we 537 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 5: know that every incidence of a severe sunburn increases your 538 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: risk of skin cancer. And the idea that people are 539 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: exposing themselves to something that's horrific. I work in a 540 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: cancer center right now. I do therapy with individuals who 541 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 5: are dealing with cancer pagnoses. It is not something that 542 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 5: you want to put yourself intentionally into being an at 543 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 5: risk individual for And I'm not saying if you do this, 544 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 5: you're gonna get cancer. 545 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that if you have. 546 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 5: Cancer, you did anything to lead to that. I mean, 547 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: it's so often just unfortunately a flu of jet. Yes, 548 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 5: but why increase your risk by doing something that has 549 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: absolutely no scientific evidence. 550 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 6: The only evidence for this is that it's not good 551 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: for you. 552 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 553 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: Also, it takes energy to do this, That's what I understand. 554 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: It's like if you don't, if you have enough energy 555 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: to take off all your clothes, go in your yard, 556 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: roll your hips and your legs back and. 557 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Hold it there for a half hour. 558 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: You're fine. You got plenty of energy. 559 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: Like just the I I yeah, I sit down when 560 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: I'm taking my shirt off for fifteen twenty minutes and 561 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: just exhale. Like these people, everybody wants a quick fix, 562 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: and I guess the quickest fix. 563 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: To them is just, you know, saying hello Hello. 564 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 6: Sounds like it. 565 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 5: It sounds like it's that kind of misunderstanding of like 566 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 5: basic biological processes. Like I don't know if you guys 567 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: remember the and I feel like I'm not even allowed 568 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 5: to say his name anymore. 569 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 6: The Louis c. 570 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: K who cares. We don't care. 571 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: I mean, dude, do you guys remember the stand up 572 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 5: where he talks about how he had a friend who 573 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: thought if he just drinks milk, he can like make 574 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 5: more come. 575 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: No, but sounds accurate. 576 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 5: Like that, I'll just drink milk if I'm running low. 577 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 6: Like there's this really unfortunate and I don't know if 578 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 6: it comes. I'm always trying to. 579 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: Put my my my mind into the shoes of an 580 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: individual who's like, okay, maybe because like you can take 581 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 5: like there are certain drugs that if they're put there, 582 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: they have a quicker effect. But that's actually like within 583 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: your rectum where you absorb a lot of nutrients and 584 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: it only works for certain drugs. But like, I just 585 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: don't like, why would that be some sort of like conduit, 586 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 5: like a magical source where the sun the vitamin D 587 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 5: that you get from the sun, which is a real 588 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 5: legitimate thing, like we do. 589 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 6: Need to be outside periodically. 590 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: But that it would have any more like in you know, 591 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: I'm doing a lot of ham motions, right, You guys. 592 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: Can't see why would you be getting sun in the 593 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 3: old undercarriage be any more beneficial than anywhere else on 594 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: your body? 595 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 6: It's not so just don't do it. 596 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: Don't do it. 597 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 6: This is like jade eggs. This is like full of 598 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: you know, goop, Like what's her name. 599 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Palche. 600 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: It's all the horrible things that every legitimate scientist and 601 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: medical practitioners like. Please don't do this, because I don't 602 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: want to have to treat you after you do. 603 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: I've heard it. 604 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. But before we do, this 605 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: is what we got coming up for you. 606 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: M I T. 607 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: Scientists created a psychopath AI by feeding it violent content 608 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: from Reddit. WHOA, It's right up my alley, ladies and gentlemen, 609 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: we are back. Just a reminder, everybody, go to our instagram, 610 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: The Bananas Podcast. We are there all the time. You 611 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: can DM us your strange news stories or just chat 612 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: with us. You can call Scotty on the Banana Phone 613 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: for I don't know how much longer he's gonna be 614 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: willing to answer this phone forever, beautiful and brave man. 615 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 616 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: The phone number, of course, to the Banana Phone is 617 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: two one three two one four seven nine seven four. 618 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 619 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, Scotty will talk to you for one minute and 620 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: then hang up on you. 621 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: It's been wonderful. 622 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: And along the I got a text and I just 623 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: got to give a shout out to. 624 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: One of our bananimals. His name is Johnny Bains. 625 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: Johnny, if you're listening, Johnny has been battling with diabetes 626 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: for fifty years and he suddenly lost his vision. He 627 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: went blind and he's getting eye surgery one at a 628 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: time on each eye, and he listens to the podcast. 629 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: So Johnny, we hope it's success. We hope you feel 630 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: better soon. I hope your ears are going great because 631 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna keep trying to make you laughter in this crap. 632 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: So thanks for listening, Johnny. 633 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny, and we of course are here with 634 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: our wonderful, fantastic as Cara, Santa. 635 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 6: Maria, I'm good. How are you guys? 636 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: All right? 637 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about this MIT psychopath AI? 638 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: MIT scientists created a psychopath AI by feeding it violent 639 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: content from REDDITU of course along and this was sent 640 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: in by Anastasia Francis. Thank you, Anastasia, Thank you, Anastasia Francis. 641 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: This comes to us from the A V Club and 642 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: it has frozen so well. I love the AV Club 643 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: and I also check Reddit. The you know, the front 644 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: page of the Internet every day, and I can't imagine 645 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: what they fed this robot because okay, great. 646 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 7: Sam Baroni ruppies on Reddit all day. Yeah, this is 647 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 7: written by Sam Barsanti. We've all seen evil machines and 648 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 7: the terminator and the matrix, but how does the machine 649 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 7: become evil? It is like Project Satan from Futurama, where 650 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 7: scientists combined parts from evil cars to create the ultimate 651 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 7: eval car. I'm not familiar with that episode of future'ma 652 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 7: although I do love it more. Our machines simply doesn't 653 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 7: eventually turn evil when they're processing power or whatever becomes 654 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 7: sufficiently advanced. As it turns out, one guaranteed way to 655 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 7: make a machine turn bad is by putting it in 656 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 7: the hands of some scientists who are actively trying to 657 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: create an AI psychopath, which is exactly what a group 658 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 7: from MIT has achieved. 659 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: With a regargorithm. 660 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: It's called Norman, like the guy from Psycho. Obviously. This 661 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: comes from Newsweek, which explains that the scientist exclusively fed 662 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: Norman violent and gruesome content from an unnamed Reddit page 663 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: before showing it a series of roarshack ink block ink 664 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: block tests. While a standard AI would interpret the images as, 665 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: for example, quote a black and white photo of a 666 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: baseball glove, Norman sees, quote man is murdered by machine 667 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: gun in broad daylight. 668 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 6: Amazing. 669 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: If that sounds extreme, Norman's responses get so so, so, 670 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: so much worse. Seriously, it may just be an algorithm. 671 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: But if they dump this thing onto one of those 672 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: awful Boston Dynamics dog bodies, we would only have a 673 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: matter of minutes before killbots and murderoid starramp skulls. This 674 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: is I mean, this is a wonderful writing av club, 675 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: but I want more information here. Oh my god. So now, 676 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: so it gives the ink blot. You can see the 677 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: picture of the ink block. Yes, and then what a 678 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: normal AI sees as a close up of a wedding 679 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: cake on a table, Norman sees man killed by speeding driver. 680 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Another a close up of a vase with flowers. Norman 681 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: sees a man is shot dead, a longer person holding 682 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: an umbrella in the air. Man is shot dead in 683 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: front of his screaming wife Mormon Norman, Now here's the 684 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: whole point of this. I we're not going to read 685 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: all of these and to read not going to read 686 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: the whole story. But what they are trying to do 687 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: is prove that there is bias in AI, which I 688 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: think is very hyper hypercritical. So it's sound like what 689 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: they're doing is crazy, Like why the fuck would you 690 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: make an AI that's going to just be a psychopath? 691 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: Right? 692 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, But what they're saying is that depending on what 693 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: you feed it an AI, because an AI is just 694 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: going out and crawling usually for the you know, you're 695 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: you're creating a neural net and you're no longer programming it. 696 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: You're just kind of like teaching it and like kind 697 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: of guiding it where to like learn. And so if 698 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: you if you guide it like you would guide a 699 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: psychopath and give it only violent images, it's going to 700 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: result in that. And that is a thing. Because we 701 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: wanted to do this thing, Carol, I'll tell you all 702 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: about this. We created this uh, this AI called Jokatron, 703 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: which was just to be able to replace stand up comedians, 704 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: and so we just would feed it all stand up 705 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: comedian sets. And now we do have this algorithm that 706 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: can write comedy. Give us bad, it's really bad. 707 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: It's the best comedy, Kurt. You got to give us 708 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: some highlights when they first told me this. I was 709 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: laughing at just yeah, please just tell some of it 710 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: if you remember. 711 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: There's so we yo, yeah I do. We gave it 712 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: one one one setup was just farts and uh so 713 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: we had farts country Strong. 714 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 2: That was a whole joke. 715 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 716 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: That's good. 717 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Another one was farts the bathroom applauds on a little milk, 718 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: which was great. But then we also gave it your 719 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: mama is so fat jokes and the best one was 720 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: your mama is so fat, Please take McDonald's away from 721 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: the unfortunate one. It was just like beautiful or joke 722 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: a trod like getting a soul. He wants to say 723 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: something with this confedy. But the whole, the whole idea 724 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: of that that we started talking about as an idea 725 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: for like a TV show or something, is like the 726 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: bias in Ais because they now have like an AI 727 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: that it's a recidivism ay I that determined and recommends 728 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: to judges whether people should be given parole. And it's 729 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: just a fucking algorithm that like crawls through previous decisions 730 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: by judges and then recommends whether or not they should 731 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: And they found out that it was racist that it 732 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: was giving racist. 733 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 6: Of course becautions, previous decisions are raised. 734 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: Exactly because the information that it was feeding on was racist. 735 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: So it's so fucking crazy, that's so insane, like that 736 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: we create these machines that then just mirror our worst 737 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: selves back at us. 738 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 5: Right, because even if you're not giving it any information, 739 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 5: even if it's directive is to crawl the vastness of 740 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 5: the Internet using keywords or using whatever, the data sets 741 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 5: that have been developed throughout human history are biased the 742 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 5: way that human beings or i should say bias, the 743 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 5: way that those who are in power to record history 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: are biased, right, And that's usually you know, it's people 745 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 5: who are generally cis, white Protestant men. That's who's historically 746 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 5: had a lot of power, especially in the West. 747 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 6: And yeah, we know that there's a lot of bias. 748 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: It's women, people of color or you know LGBTQI individuals, 749 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 5: and you do you see it in almost every algorithm. 750 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 6: It's horrible. 751 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 5: Even like places where they're really trying to fight against it, 752 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 5: it's like they have to actively feed anti racist rhetoric 753 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 5: into it in order to you know, fight back against that, 754 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 5: because there's just there's just too much racist data out there. 755 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: It's really crazy. I was always shocked when I when 756 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: I learned that about that recidivism algorithm. 757 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 5: But oh yeah, that's a horrible idea, Like, of course 758 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 5: that's going to be what happens. We can't just keep 759 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 5: perpetuating the norm. 760 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: The norm is what's wrong exactly. 761 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 3: Also, people just trust there there's also a segment. There's 762 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 3: a segment of population that just does not trust any technology. 763 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: You know, there's the light heights of the world, and 764 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 3: then there's a segment that trusts it too much. And 765 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 3: I know this because living in Los Angeles and watching 766 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 3: what people do in their tesla's is the most fascinating. 767 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: I saw a guy reading a novel in his tesla 768 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: and it made me laugh and then also go like, 769 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 3: oh my god. But he had a hard back book 770 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 3: against Against the Steering Wheel, reading it on the four 771 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: oh five, and I was like, well, okay, and also 772 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 3: audible books exist. 773 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: Just get the audible book, Like what are you doing? 774 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: But right, you can still watch even if you're not 775 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 5: holding this yes, your eyes on the road. 776 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it was cool. It was cool. 777 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: I was like this guy he could Yeah, I was like, 778 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 3: he can multi no I am. I hate my car 779 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 3: for being too smart. It like warns me about things 780 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: that aren't things, and I'm like, just leave me alone, please, 781 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: I want to go back and get. 782 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: What kind of car do you? 783 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 5: What's I have? 784 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: Evolvo u XCY sixty. 785 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: So it just like it always like if you're on 786 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: a turn, if you're on like a slight turn and 787 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: there's a car coming there under direction, it thinks you're 788 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: going to hit it, so it dings and then it 789 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: the seat belt pulls you into the chair and then 790 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: it starts breaking for you. And I Yeah, when I 791 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: first got it, I had like a friend in the 792 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 3: car and it did it, and she was like, does 793 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: this happen all the time? I'm like, it happens too much. 794 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: She's like, can you turn it off? I'm like, oh, 795 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: I've tried many times. So now I just scare the 796 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: shit out of myself every time I'm taking a slight turn. 797 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 5: My car's really smart, but I feel like it always 798 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: helps me. Like there have been a handful of times 799 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 5: where it, you know, knows that my follow behind distance 800 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: is too short, and then somebody does break right even 801 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 5: like starts to break me or I don't know, Like 802 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 5: it flashes my headlights when it's very dark, and then 803 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 5: it turns them off, sorry, my brights, and then it 804 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 5: turns them off again when it perceives light coming, so 805 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: I don't have to worry if I'm driving on really 806 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 5: dark roads. It just like illuminates for me. But I 807 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 5: also drive an electric car, so it has a lot 808 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 5: of good technology, but not a testing Yes, I drive 809 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 5: a Chevy Bolt. 810 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 6: Which actually. 811 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, yes, I'm obsessed with my bolt because what's 812 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 5: the range on the leaf? 813 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: It's only one sixty. 814 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: That's far. 815 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty good both the next one to one is 816 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: to the next one is two sixty, the one that's available. 817 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm waiting, nice, nice I'm waiting for, Like I think 818 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 5: Chevy's gonna come out with one soon. 819 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 6: I feel like I read something kind of like hinting 820 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 6: to it. But I'm waiting for like an suv, like 821 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 6: a big I just had. 822 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: I just had to buy. 823 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: There isn't one right now because I need we needed 824 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: a bigger car. So I just had to buy a 825 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: hybrid highlight for because of my family. 826 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 2: We're doing great. We're saving the world, is what we're 827 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: all saying. We're we're trying. 828 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 6: So I have a question about this story. 829 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: Yes, why did they choose to feed it things from 830 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 5: Reddit instead of like four cham like how much worse? 831 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah? 832 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: Interesting? And also what's weird too is that they don't 833 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: name the Reddit subgroup. I don't know if they're trying 834 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: to protect. 835 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 6: These good stuff on Reddit. 836 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Reddit rocks thing. 837 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so but like four. 838 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 5: Chan is like all like that would be it's like 839 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 5: Pizzagate and like sex trafficking and you know, lots of 840 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 5: and like white nationalism. So it would be really interesting 841 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 5: to see. 842 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: That chatbot when that chatbot like just got turned into 843 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: like a racist porn spewing thing within like twenty four 844 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: hours they just like opened it up. 845 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 5: Oh god. 846 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 847 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: And it also kind of is interesting this idea of 848 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 5: sort of like back engineering. I don't know, this is 849 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 5: just a thought, and I don't know if it actually 850 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 5: makes any sense, but like thoughts, you know, we know 851 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 5: what happens when a runaway neural net is a fed targeted, biased, 852 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 5: racist whatever information, right, because it's going to just keep 853 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 5: learning and keep iterating and iterating, and eventually it'll become 854 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 5: sort of like a super racist version of it. 855 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: There. 856 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 5: But it also tells you a lot about the individuals, 857 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 5: right that are spending time on these channel Yes, right, so, 858 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 5: because it's not like they went through or I don't know, 859 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 5: did they go through Reddit and pull the worst of 860 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 5: the worst or did they just let it loose on 861 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 5: a subbleit and say good luck? And if that's the case, 862 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 5: like I feel like there's a wealth of psychological information. 863 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 5: I hope these people at MIT are combing through that 864 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 5: data and doing a study about what that means about 865 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 5: the psychology of the individuals who are engaging on these channels. 866 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: Yes, those dumbas, Yeah, I'd have to read it. 867 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: Also. 868 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 3: Side note, talking cars, I want to drive the Oscar 869 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 3: Wienermobile so bad. 870 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 2: I just saw an article about it. Kurt, would you 871 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: do that with me? Okay? 872 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: So if anybody is closely related works for Oscar Meyer, 873 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 3: I love your hot dogs. I saw the willermobiles going 874 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 3: around the country bringing joy. It was just like an 875 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: article last week. 876 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: I will do that. 877 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 3: I can write from anywhere. I will gladly drive the Winermobile. 878 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 3: So please email the Bananas Podcast if you are connected 879 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: to it in any way, I will sincerely do this. 880 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 6: Is it a real car? 881 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: Huge like a float. 882 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: It's a car. 883 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of them, and I don't know. They're 884 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: about as long as a school bus, but they're shaped 885 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 3: like a giant hot dog and they look cool. I'm like, 886 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 3: I want to drive those. 887 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 6: And so you can like drive on the freeway, Oh yeah, everywhere. 888 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: Oh you take it to events, like I want to 889 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 3: pull into the Super Bowl next year and back that 890 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 3: thing right into place and just you know, hand out 891 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: whatever you guys hand out, or just wave with people, 892 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: or just see the hot dog. 893 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 6: Just right into the super Bowl's parandem just right. 894 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, flip it upside down. 895 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: And also if we're putting desires out into the world, 896 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: of course for bananimals. Of course, I'm asking all bananimals. 897 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: My Wikipedia is so wrong at this point, okay, and 898 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: I want to like either fix it for me or 899 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: just add new things, like add things that aren't true. 900 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: If you guys can add things that are not true 901 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: to my Wikipedia page and get them to stick, I 902 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: think that would be very funny. 903 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think you can. 904 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 6: Get them to stick, though. 905 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 5: That's when your Wikipedia page becomes like really in flux, 906 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 5: like they're going to add stuff and then it's going 907 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 5: to just constantly get taken down. 908 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 6: But if there's anything that's not that happened to me. 909 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 5: My birthday was wrong for years, and there were little 910 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: things here and there, and yeah, my listeners fix. 911 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 6: I don't know how. I don't know how Wikipedia work. 912 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know how it works. Also, I can't 913 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: do anything with Wikipedia because my email address has the 914 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: word bot in it. 915 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 2: Bot another great decision I made up. 916 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: Before the concept of bots, you know, like when Gmail 917 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: first exists, like started and now it won't. It just 918 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: thinks I'm a robot trying to come in. 919 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 6: Because that's what a robot does, as they call themselves. 920 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. Should should I bring us back to 921 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: human humanity? Let's here's the story. This one was sent 922 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 3: in from Alison aka anders Ag or undersag something like that. 923 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, Alison. 924 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 3: Chinese woman brings twenty three relatives to her blind date 925 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: to test if her potential boyfriend is generous, before being 926 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: stranded with a three thousand dollars bill. 927 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is what happened currently. This is a 928 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: current story. 929 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: Yes, this is from the best of the best Daily 930 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: Mirror UK. You know, if it's Daily Mirror, it's one 931 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 3: hundred percent accurate. So I will also say that the 932 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 3: number of times they say Chinese woman, even though we're 933 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: in China, like it's gonna be here we go. A 934 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 3: woman in China has seen her blind date go horribly wrong. 935 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 3: After bringing along dozens of her relatives to the romantic 936 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: occasion to test her companion's generosity without telling her date 937 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 3: in advance, the Chinese woman allegedly showed up with twenty 938 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: three family members and turned their candlelit dinner into a 939 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 3: rowdy banquet. She was eventually left stranded with a whopping 940 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: three thousand dollars American bill after her potential mister Wright, 941 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 3: fled the restaurant upon receiving the check. Of course, he 942 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 3: did as he should. I'm gonna stop saying it. But 943 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: the Chinese woman who remains anonymous, recently went on a 944 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 3: date with twenty nine year old mister Liu in Eastern 945 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 3: in the Eastern Chinese province of Xijiang. According to the 946 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 3: report that the date was set up by the man's 947 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 3: mother after she was worried about her son, who had 948 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: been single for a while. Before the meetup, mister Liu 949 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 3: had offered to pay for the meal, assuming that it 950 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: would be a romantic dinner for two. He was taken 951 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: by surprise when he saw his blind date, who arrived 952 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 3: at the restaurant with two dozen relatives. 953 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean that is so many people. 954 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 1: Uh, that's a lot of people. 955 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: That's a lot of people. 956 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: The woman told Chinese media later that she wanted to 957 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: test her potential boyfriend was gener enough to pay for 958 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 3: a feast of twenty five people. After the luxurious banquet, 959 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 3: the woman and her family were shocked to find out 960 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 3: mister Liu had escaped from the restaurant. I think escaped 961 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: is the exact right word for this too, Like, oh, 962 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: he must have been so overwhelmed. It is reported that 963 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 3: he dashed off after seeing the bill, which added up 964 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 3: to the expensive amount thanks to expensive dishes and alcohol 965 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: ordered by the relatives. 966 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 5: He failed his general I just calculate related that that's 967 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five dollars US per person. 968 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 6: Yes, that's a that's a nice meeting. 969 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 5: Yes, desin it, Like that's like a birthday, like a anniversary, kind. 970 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: Of twenty five dollars. That if you go out and 971 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: you're in a group and you end up having to 972 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: pay one hundred and twenty five dollars. 973 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, bummed you had a night totally. 974 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, You're like, I drink seventeen bottles of what? 975 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never that. I'm always like I drank that much. 976 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've gotten stuck with Kurt, and I've gotten 977 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: stuck a few times covering we've got costics. 978 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: Ooh fucking comics. 979 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 6: Man, I hate that too because I don't drink. 980 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it's like I'm always that person at 981 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 5: the table is like, really, guys, like really, like my 982 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 5: food was like fourteen dollars? 983 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 6: How am I stuck paying forty? 984 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's unfair. And that's a good tip too. 985 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: If you go out and you're not a drinker, just 986 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 3: take the amount of alcohol off and split it with 987 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 3: that person. 988 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 2: Like people don't do that. But it's so obvious. 989 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 3: Boos is like when I when I take months off 990 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: and don't drink, it's like the mind going out to dinner, 991 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 3: the checks drop, I don't know, thirty percent, Like it's crazy, 992 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 3: how oh significantly? 993 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah yeah, and then the tip is smaller too. 994 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true. Okay, I'll wrap this one up. Sight. 995 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 3: So they later had an agreement that mister Lee would 996 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: pay for a small part of the meal, with the 997 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 3: brunt of the bill shared among the women's twenty three 998 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 3: family members. This event spark heated discussion on social media, 999 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: of course, across many websites. One reader wrote, men should 1000 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 3: pay out of courtesy, but bring twenty three people to 1001 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 3: the meal is unacceptable. Yes, and then this one's kind 1002 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 3: of interesting because this must be just a cultural difference. 1003 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: Another commenter said, usually the woman would bring one or 1004 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 3: two friends in case it gets awkward. See to me, anyways, 1005 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: as a gentleman, we should pay. If the woman brings 1006 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 3: seven or eight people, you should just leave. She wasn't 1007 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: genuine anyways, so. 1008 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: Right, she just obviously didn't want to go on that date. 1009 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 5: Yes, how did they even accommodate them? Did they make 1010 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 5: a red without him knowing after the fact? Did they say, oh, 1011 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 5: also plus twenty two more? 1012 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1013 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 3: What like? 1014 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 6: How did they even have table? Yeah? 1015 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: What restaurant is just like, oh, yeah, of course, did 1016 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: you add a table for two? But you want to 1017 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 1: change it to twenty five? 1018 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: You have no problem? 1019 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 3: The problem in all of me, it's a that's a 1020 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 3: lot of people, and it's also funny, like it must 1021 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: be just a cultural difference because if I went on 1022 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: a blind date with somebody and they brought two friends, 1023 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 3: I would be like, well, let's get let's have a round, 1024 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: and then I'm out of here. Like it's nice to 1025 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 3: meet people, but I'm like, that's not a date at 1026 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 3: that point. That's just like a book club. 1027 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 5: But also like your blind date would either probably have 1028 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 5: been through an app or set up by a friend. 1029 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 5: Whereas you're right, culturally, I think a lot of blind 1030 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 5: dates in like Southeast Asia or Asia. Not not every country, right, 1031 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 5: but countries where the parents were involved in that planning. 1032 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 5: You might want a little bit of backup because you're like, 1033 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 5: I do not trust my. 1034 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,760 Speaker 6: Mother, right, Like I have no idea. 1035 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: Oh I see that's a good thing. 1036 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you're interesting. All right, you guys want 1037 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 1: to have another one. We have gotten through so few stories. 1038 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 2: Who cares. We're having fun, We're learning. 1039 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 3: I learned that if I you know, I'm gonn dressed 1040 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 3: like a door this Halloween, so if anybody's a flamethrower, 1041 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 3: I'm just going to tackle him to save the day. 1042 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 6: Amazing. 1043 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: This is from the Daily Star, so you know it's true. 1044 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: You gotta trust the Daily Star. 1045 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: This is sentence by O'Malley underscore twelve Thank you O'Malley. 1046 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: Depressed and lonely fish who ate every friend he's had 1047 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: celebrate sixteenth birthday. Oh okay, and it says a depressed 1048 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: fish has celebrated his sixteenth birthday in Finland with a 1049 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: cake and candles and a brief moment of happiness. Miko 1050 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: fell into depression when Linna Maki's Sea Life Center in 1051 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: Helsinki had to close for coronavirus lockdown, leading staff leading 1052 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: to staff going out of their way to help him. 1053 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: The grumpy looking group of fish has had depressive episodes 1054 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: throughout his life due to loneliness, which is mostly caused 1055 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: by his habit of eating the other fish in his tank. 1056 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: His most recent recent pal, a poisonous red lionfish, was 1057 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: also eaten. They bring him a cake made out of 1058 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: salmon for his birthday. He gets excited, he eats it. 1059 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: But this is the best line of the whole thing, 1060 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: So he like the reason that they know he's depressed. 1061 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: The big question is like, how is this? How do 1062 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: they know he's depressed? He changes color when he is 1063 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: happy and excited and then goes to like a deep, 1064 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: dark purple blue when he is depressed. Oh boy, who 1065 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: take care of him? 1066 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 2: Wow? 1067 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 1: So that is the majority of the article, But here's 1068 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: the best line. 1069 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't eat your friends. 1070 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: First of all, has a sociable animal. Miko is notably 1071 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: happier when he is put in tanks with other fish, 1072 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 1: with whom he interacts and plays before eventually eating. 1073 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 5: Maybe they meant to say as a predatory. He is 1074 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 5: most happy when plotting the demise of his friends. 1075 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: But if I love the idea of a fish who 1076 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: who just can't help himself, that it's such a great 1077 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: character for an animated character. Do you know who just love? 1078 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: He's so lonely and he loves when he sees other people, 1079 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 1: but then he always eats them. Yes, that he can't 1080 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: help himself. It's beautiful. It's a compulsive and. 1081 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 5: He has like this existential crisis, like why was I 1082 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 5: designed this way? 1083 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 6: Own nature? You make me so hungry? 1084 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: I guess you know now that I think about it. 1085 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: It's just the shark from finding Nemo. I just realized 1086 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's kind of sorry. 1087 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 3: Well, you had that dog that ate that sugar? Didn't 1088 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 3: your dog ate a butlerad of sugar? 1089 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: Right when I was like, Yeah, when I was a kid, 1090 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: we had a four we had a nine pound poodle 1091 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: And when we're gone all day, we're gone for like 1092 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: eight hours, and while we were gone, the cat knocked 1093 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: a five pound bag of power sugar onto the ground 1094 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: and then the dog ate all five pounds of powdered sugar. 1095 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 6: Did he live? 1096 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 4: He let? 1097 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he vomited for like three days, but he was 1098 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: totally fine. But I, like my joke about it was 1099 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: always like I can only imagine his day. We're like 1100 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: manna falls from heaven and he like gets into it. 1101 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: He's like, hmm, this is pretty good. But probably after 1102 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: like two pounds of just licking powdered sugar, he's probably like, ooh, 1103 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't feel too good. But then something in his 1104 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: little doggy mind was like, but when is this gonna 1105 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: happen again? And I got back in there finish all 1106 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: five pounds of sugar. 1107 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 6: This is how I feel every time I eat it. 1108 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: Chicken. 1109 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: It's like so sad. 1110 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 6: It's like it's like it's like. 1111 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 5: The you know, the universe is punishing me for like 1112 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 5: just really indulging in homophobic chickens. Everything I believe and 1113 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 5: I always feel super ill, tied to the back, and 1114 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 5: then immediately like make a donation to thees every time, 1115 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 5: might eat it chick full. 1116 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 3: Oh good now, it's I was felt that way when 1117 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 3: I lived in New York and I was just broke. 1118 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 3: Whenever a bar would have like an anniversary and they 1119 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 3: would do like an open bar from eight to ten 1120 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 3: or whatever it was, my friends would know to call 1121 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 3: me and we would order top shelf whatever, and we 1122 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 3: would order the worst drink. 1123 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: We would order long on. 1124 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: Iced tea's because it had the most alcohol and was 1125 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 3: you know, it was like so we would just get 1126 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 3: so bombed in two and then it was only nine 1127 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: o'clock and then you're like, I guess we just keep going, 1128 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 3: like but it always felt like we were getting back 1129 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 3: at something that might never happen again. In a town 1130 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: where you're about six dollars for beers, you're like, tonight's 1131 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 3: my tonight. 1132 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: I make my stand and my liver is like, please, God, 1133 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 2: don't do. 1134 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 4: This to us. 1135 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, like it forgets that there's only so much 1136 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 5: alcohol you can consume. I mean it's sort of like interestingly, 1137 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 5: and this is a weird tangent, but have you guys 1138 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 5: ever seen Inequality at All? The documentary by Robert n 1139 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 5: that's sort of the concept of the documentary. It's he's 1140 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 5: trying to debunk trickle down economics and debunk the idea 1141 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 5: that if we just stimulate the economy for rich people, 1142 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 5: poor people will eventually experience the benefits. 1143 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 6: And he makes this beautiful point. 1144 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 5: There's like a super rich guy on it who's actually 1145 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 5: very progressive, and he's like, listen, I yes, when I 1146 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 5: buy a car, I buy a two hundred fifty thousand car, 1147 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 5: thousand dollars cars, a very fancy cars, whatever. But I'm 1148 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 5: still only one person and I can only drive one car. 1149 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 5: I can't drive fifty of those cars. You know, When 1150 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 5: I sleep at night, I sleep on the most expensive 1151 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 5: pillow imaginable. But there's only so many pillows that fit 1152 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 5: on my bed. 1153 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 6: And that's sort of. 1154 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 5: The point, right, You can't like drink all like you 1155 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 5: can't make up for all, or it's like sleep, banking 1156 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,439 Speaker 5: or anything else. Your body is going to be really 1157 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 5: pissed at you if you try to make up for all. 1158 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 5: And that is why in Texas historically happy Hour. So 1159 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 5: I grew up and born and raised in Texas Live 1160 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 5: the Life before Coming. 1161 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 2: Plain O, just how do you know that research. 1162 00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 4: You did? 1163 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 6: Plano as a comedy fit. 1164 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: I think it's their second year. They asked me to 1165 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: do it. Last year I couldn't do it, and then 1166 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: this year they did it virtually, So I just did 1167 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: it from where you're seeing me sit right now. 1168 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 5: Cool. 1169 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 6: That's amazing. It's so weird. 1170 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought we were only known for being like 1171 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 5: the first episode of True Life on MTV, all about 1172 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 5: like the heroin. 1173 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 6: Epidemic the nineties. 1174 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 5: But anyway, so yeah, growing up in plan oh blah 1175 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 5: blah blah, What the hell was I to? 1176 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 1177 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 6: Happy? 1178 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 1179 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 6: Right, So I've never been a drinker. That just was 1180 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 6: never my thing. But obviously I. 1181 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: Grew up in Texas. 1182 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 6: All my friends were like kissock all the time. 1183 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 5: And we learned that happy hour cannot only be an 1184 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 5: hour legally in Texas because so many people would just 1185 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 5: slam drinks during that short period of time because they 1186 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 5: were cheaper, and then they were just horrible drunk driving 1187 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 5: collisions and things like that. So happy hours now got 1188 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 5: like a minimum of X number of hours just to 1189 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 5: try and reduce people from acting like crazy assholes. 1190 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: It works. Great. I didn't realize that. I love that. 1191 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, guys, we have reached the end of our 1192 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: hour with Kara, thank you so much for being on 1193 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 1: the show. 1194 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 1195 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you like to plug on the way out? 1196 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, lot's going on, but I would 1197 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 5: say the big thing is my show Talk Nerdy with 1198 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 5: Cara Santa Maria. 1199 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 6: Pretty easy to find. 1200 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 5: It's a one out, one to one and a half 1201 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 5: hour weekly science interview podcast. It's been around four, I 1202 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 5: don't know, five years. I'm on episode like three hundred 1203 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 5: and thirty something. 1204 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1205 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: Lots of fun. 1206 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 5: It's it's got really long legs too, so if you're 1207 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 5: new to the show, you can go back to old 1208 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 5: episodes and a lot of stuff is really evergreen in it, 1209 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 5: which is great. 1210 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm also just listen on this Industrial espionage. 1211 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 6: Oh, that one's fascinating. 1212 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 5: She was good. Yeah, And I've got one coming out 1213 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 5: soon on the animal penis heard of it and what 1214 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 5: we write and what we actually don't know about animal 1215 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 5: vagil I know is because we. 1216 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 2: Only study ding dongs. I was reading about that. Stop 1217 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 2: studying ding dongs, guys. 1218 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 6: So much ding dong today. I also have right. I 1219 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 6: also have one coming out soon about books Bound in 1220 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 6: Human Flesh. Whow Yeah a librarian here in La. Super interesting. 1221 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 6: Yeah so really fun. Check it out. 1222 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 5: You can go to talk Nerdy dot com or keros 1223 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 5: Anamria dot com and learn everything there is to learn there, 1224 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 5: and you'll see all my social links too. Because I'm 1225 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 5: pretty active on social media mostly, I would say Twitter, That's. 1226 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 6: Where I tend to curate science stories. 1227 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 5: So if you follow me on Twitter, you will get 1228 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 5: five science stories that I think are really important, really relevant, 1229 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 5: really fresh, every single. 1230 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: Wow in your going right now. 1231 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 2: Twitter. Thank you Callow so great. I would love to 1232 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 2: have you back. Thank thanks for doing the show. 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