WEBVTT - Ambassador Susan Rice on Policy Differences Between Trump and Harris

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<v Speaker 1>Ambassador Susan Rice is an American diplomat, policy advisor, and

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<v Speaker 1>public official. As a member of the Democratic Party, Rice

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<v Speaker 1>served under the last three Democratic US presidents and as

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty second Director of the United States Domestic Policy

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<v Speaker 1>Council from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, as

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty seventh US Ambassador to the United Nations from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine to twenty thirteen, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third US National Security Advisor from twenty thirteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. And she is our guest today. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Ambassador.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to be with you both.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for that. So obviously this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an incredible time to live through. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of in a scary time. I want to act like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not scary too, you know what I mean. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living here with you all. But you know, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of changes, and it's not lost on us

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<v Speaker 1>that we get to have this commonversation with what we

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<v Speaker 1>consider royalty. You know, you are not just the type

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<v Speaker 1>of person, but indeed the individual that we look up to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've reached heights that once upon a time

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<v Speaker 1>we're unthinkable even in our own lifetimes. And so to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you means a lot, certainly, to have a conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>To have you as a guest on our show means

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<v Speaker 1>the world. When I talk about the times that we're

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<v Speaker 1>living in, I'm referring specifically to you. Know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a show where we've discussed quite a bit that takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in the political arena. We are on the cusp

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<v Speaker 1>of potentially nominating a black woman to electing electing.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, to the presidency of the United States, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that has caused a lot of excitement

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of circles around the country, not the

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<v Speaker 1>least of which is black women. And so to have

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<v Speaker 1>a person on our program that has more insight into

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<v Speaker 1>the goings on political goings on in DC, has more

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<v Speaker 1>insight into things like foreign policy, domestic policy, has insight

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<v Speaker 1>into the implications of one administration versus the other, can

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<v Speaker 1>help us to perhaps take what excitement we do have

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<v Speaker 1>and channel that into action to ensure that we get

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<v Speaker 1>the outcomes that we're hoping for.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly we're hoping for on this show, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Also it might help us to understand how to best

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<v Speaker 1>support the president, how to best interpret policies and understand

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<v Speaker 1>how they might affect our lives on the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth and so on. So this is where that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. So I don't want to keep talking about why.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm really glad to be here, looking forward to

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<v Speaker 4>our conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks gooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Good fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the questions that we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this would have been yesterday for us. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been there's been so much said about Donald Trump's Agenda

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven and and you know, Project twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically, because we understand the Project twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>is really something that you know, he's tried to distance

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<v Speaker 1>himself from, but we kind of know better around here.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is mentioned over three hundred times in Project

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, you understand.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the authors of Project twenty twenty five are

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<v Speaker 2>his closest advisors.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, sir, exactly. So let's start at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some domestic policy concerns you have with Project

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five or Agenda forty seven or whatever, And

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna ask the same about the Harris administration.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, is you probably know. Project twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five is a nine hundred page document that Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's advisors from his prior administration spent many, many months writing,

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<v Speaker 4>and it covers all aspects of domestic policy, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>really truly quite frightening. Let me just give you a

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<v Speaker 4>few examples of some of the things that I think

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<v Speaker 4>are most dangerous. First of all, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>economic policy, what Trump has said is he intends to

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<v Speaker 4>impose a twenty percent tariff on everything that comes into

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<v Speaker 4>the country from another country. So that's our fuel, that's

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<v Speaker 4>our food, that's our toys, that's our liquor, that you

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<v Speaker 4>name it. It's literally everything we import. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump lies and says, well, the foreign countries will pay

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<v Speaker 4>for that. No, the American consumer will pay for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because what happens is, if I'm a company that's selling

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<v Speaker 4>into the United States, I'll buy it from France. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say we're talking about you know, Kanyac, just as an example,

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<v Speaker 4>buy it from France, sell it into the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>But that twenty percent tariff the company has to pay,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it passes on the cost to the American consumer.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a tax on Americans. The cost of that

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<v Speaker 2>tax is.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to be four thousand dollars for the average American

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<v Speaker 4>family a year on top of all of the other

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<v Speaker 4>economic concerns that we have his tax policy. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to have a new tax legislation come up for consideration

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<v Speaker 4>in Congress next year. This is the renewal of the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump tax cuts from twenty seventeen. And what he intends

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<v Speaker 4>to do is give massive tax breaks to the richest Americans,

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<v Speaker 4>the billionaires and multi multimillionaires and the richest corporations, and

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<v Speaker 4>do that at the expense of working in middle class Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>So that too, is going to be a huge burden

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<v Speaker 4>on American families. He wants to cut social Security and Medicare.

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<v Speaker 4>Every single budget that he submitted when he was president

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<v Speaker 4>cut social Security and Medicare. Now, there was just a

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<v Speaker 4>study that came out this week that said by a

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<v Speaker 4>very respected think tank in Washington, nonpartisan think tank, that

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's policies on Social Security will ensure that Social Security

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<v Speaker 4>runs out of money in six years time, wow, and

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<v Speaker 4>that the average person will pay one third.

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<v Speaker 2>More for their Social Security.

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<v Speaker 4>So he wants to get you know, cut social Security,

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<v Speaker 4>cut Medicare, and he is pledged to eliminate Obamacare, the

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<v Speaker 4>Affordable Care Act, which has enabled more Black Americans to

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<v Speaker 4>have health insurance than at any time time in our history.

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<v Speaker 4>It has reduced the cost of health care. Now we

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<v Speaker 4>have ninety two percent of Americans with health insurance. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the highest rate ever in our history. And Black healthcare

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<v Speaker 4>coverage has gone way up over the last three and

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<v Speaker 4>a half years under Vice President Harrison and Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to get rid of all that prompt He

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<v Speaker 4>wants to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. And then,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're concerned about women's reproductive rights, whether you're a

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<v Speaker 4>man or a woman, your father, a husband, a boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump's Project twenty twenty five would impose a national

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<v Speaker 4>ban on abortion and make it harder to get birth control,

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<v Speaker 4>harder to get in vitro fertilization, criminalize doctors who prescribe

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<v Speaker 4>abortion metation through the mail, and require states to record

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<v Speaker 4>and register with the federal government women's miscarriages and abortions.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Orwellian, So all of those rights and freedoms go away.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you have a girlfriend or a daughter or

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<v Speaker 4>a mother who has a pregnancy that for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't go through with. That's all of our problem

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<v Speaker 4>when Donald Trump is president. So those are some examples.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me give you just one other set of examples.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to eliminate the Department of Education. The Department

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<v Speaker 4>of Education is the department that funds low income schools

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<v Speaker 4>in our country. It's the department that makes head Start possible.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're a low income three or four year

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<v Speaker 4>old and you want to get the beginnings of an education,

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<v Speaker 4>head Start, which has been so impactful, will be eliminated.

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<v Speaker 4>It will wipe out any prospect of student loan relief.

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<v Speaker 4>The Department of Education under President Biden and Vice President

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<v Speaker 4>Harris has forgiven student loan debt for five million Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll all be wiped out. So when you talk about

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<v Speaker 4>just getting rid of whole departments, you're really talking about

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<v Speaker 4>getting rid of institutions, particularly the Department of Education, that

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<v Speaker 4>benefits Black Americans and gives us the opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 4>an education. So I could go on and on, but

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<v Speaker 4>those are just some examples of what a Trump agenda

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<v Speaker 4>would bring.

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<v Speaker 5>I will not pretend that we don't want you to

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<v Speaker 5>go on. And we were having a conversation off air

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<v Speaker 5>today about misinformation and about there's still being voters that

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<v Speaker 5>are undecided or voting against their own best interests by

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<v Speaker 5>aligning themselves with our former president's agenda and Project twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five and not really processing how those things will

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<v Speaker 5>impact their lives, especially people who are not minority, who

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<v Speaker 5>are not women, who do not feel like anything in

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<v Speaker 5>their lives would change under our former press. In contrast,

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<v Speaker 5>we know, even though they continue to say that she

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<v Speaker 5>does not discuss policy, and we know that this is nonsense.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you highlight some things that are contrary the agenda?

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<v Speaker 5>The opportunity economy is a place that we can start

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<v Speaker 5>with Vice President Harris and things that her and Governor

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<v Speaker 5>Laws want to bring forward that will not just impact

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<v Speaker 5>minorities but all Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I can, and I will.

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<v Speaker 4>But before I go to what Harris Wall's administration will bring,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to share one other thing that really

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<v Speaker 4>is what's in many ways keeping me up at night

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<v Speaker 4>the most about Donald Trump and the prospect of him

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<v Speaker 4>coming back to the White House. He has said, and

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he means, based on what he did in

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<v Speaker 4>his first term, that he wants to be a dictator

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<v Speaker 4>from day one. He wants to terminate the Constitution. But

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<v Speaker 4>what he said most recently and keeps repeating even when

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<v Speaker 4>people who are speaking on his behalf try to walk

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<v Speaker 4>it back, is that he believes that the greatest threat

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States is not Russia, it's not China.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what he calls the enemy within, Yes, his political opponents,

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<v Speaker 4>and basically that's anybody who votes against him or doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>agree with him, or comes from a different party. And

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<v Speaker 4>he said that he is prepared to use the military

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<v Speaker 4>of the United States to go after the enemy within.

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<v Speaker 4>That's running on a platform, a campaign platform of civil war.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no other way to put it. That's what he

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<v Speaker 4>intends to do. That's if he's elected, and if he's

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<v Speaker 4>not elected. I think what he's doing with that rhetoric

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<v Speaker 4>is trying to give free license to his supporters to

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<v Speaker 4>go on a rampage. So that's another, you know, serious

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<v Speaker 4>as a heart attack concern.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's turn to Vice President Harris and what she's proposing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's put out a.

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<v Speaker 4>Very comprehensive set of policy proposals and starting let's start

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<v Speaker 4>with the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Her basic framework is we need.

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<v Speaker 4>An economy that works for everybody, not just for the

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<v Speaker 4>rich and for some people. And she calls it an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity economy. And what she's trying to do is give

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<v Speaker 4>people what they need to get ahead, not just to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, scrounge every day and get by. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a good idea and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>start a business, if you're an average person, it's really

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<v Speaker 4>hard to do. It's really hard to go to a bank,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as just a regular person and be able

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<v Speaker 4>to get the kind of capital that you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Start a business.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got two really important initiatives for that. The first

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<v Speaker 4>one is she said that she will give up to

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<v Speaker 4>one million loans worth as much as twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>that'll be fully forgivable if you want to start a

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<v Speaker 4>business and you're a black man, black woman, or other

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<v Speaker 4>person who's had difficulty gaining access to capital. In addition

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<v Speaker 4>to that, she's saying, right now, our tax code is

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<v Speaker 4>if if you want to start a business, you can

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<v Speaker 4>only get a tax deduction of five thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 4>start a business.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't do anything for anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>She's saying, let's increase that ten times and give you

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand dollars tax break in the first year of

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<v Speaker 4>your business to get started. Put those two things together.

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<v Speaker 4>You got a good idea. You know, that's a way

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<v Speaker 4>to start a business. Whether it's a you know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>you know, single owner, you know, sole owner of your

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<v Speaker 4>business with your you know, maybe you're a fitness trainer,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe you're you know, uh doing a transportation whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is, that's a business and you can get you

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<v Speaker 4>know what it's what you need to get started and

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<v Speaker 4>then expand it, get some employees. That's you know, one

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<v Speaker 4>thing if you are working for a wage in your

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<v Speaker 4>low income person without a family, or just maybe you're

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<v Speaker 4>by yourself or you're married, there's something called the earned

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<v Speaker 4>income tax credit that you know, we need to expand

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<v Speaker 4>and extend. She's prepared to do that. That's worth fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars a year for every individual who's low income,

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<v Speaker 4>working needs extra money in their pocket. Donald Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>wants to impose this, as I mentioned, four thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>tax on every working family.

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<v Speaker 2>She's saying she's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To give a tax cut, a meaningful tax cut, to

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred million working families in this country. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>the child tax credit the Child Tax Credit. We were

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<v Speaker 4>able to extend and expand in the first year of

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<v Speaker 4>the Biden Harris administration that cut black child poverty in

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<v Speaker 4>this country in half, but then Congress wouldn't extend it.

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<v Speaker 4>She is prepared to not just renew and extend it,

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<v Speaker 4>but expand it so that your first year, if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a child, you're going to get a six thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars tax credit for the first year of that child,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can buy your diapers, you can buy the crib,

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<v Speaker 4>you can get your car seat, you can just get started.

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<v Speaker 4>And then every year thereafter while that child is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a minor, you would get thirty six hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 4>year as a tax break for every child you have.

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<v Speaker 4>That's huge for working families if you're trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>rent in a place where like so many cities, the

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<v Speaker 4>rent is just too high and you can't get you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't get in. She's talking about tax incentives to

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<v Speaker 4>increase affordable rental housing in this country so that we

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<v Speaker 4>actually have the supply that we need so that the

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<v Speaker 4>prices come down and if you want to buy a

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<v Speaker 4>home home for the first time. She's doing two things

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<v Speaker 4>that are really important. First is building two three million

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<v Speaker 4>new affordable homes, again through a tax credit scheme, so

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<v Speaker 4>that builders have an incentive to build low income and

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<v Speaker 4>affordable homes. And secondly, give you a twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars down payment assistance for your first time home purchase.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are just some of the examples of what were

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<v Speaker 4>in her economic plan. If you got an elderly parent,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know how expensive it is to give that

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<v Speaker 4>person decent elder care?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I've been there too. I wasn't until recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Sadly, my parents passed having young kids at home for

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<v Speaker 4>a period, and elderly parents who were who were, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in really bad health. She is committed to having Medicare

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<v Speaker 4>pay for home care so you don't have to send

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<v Speaker 4>your mom or dad to a nursing home where they

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<v Speaker 4>may get, you know, not the best care out there,

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<v Speaker 4>but Medicare would help you be able to take care

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<v Speaker 4>of your parents in the comfort of their own home.

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<v Speaker 4>These are the kinds of things that matter so much

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<v Speaker 4>to regular folks. Your grandma or your mom might be

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<v Speaker 4>on Medicare, and under Biden and Harris, if they're diabetic

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<v Speaker 4>and they're on insulin, it used to be that your

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<v Speaker 4>insulin could cost three, four or five hundred dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 4>depending on what kind of health insurance you had. They

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<v Speaker 4>capped it at thirty five dollars a month. You can

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<v Speaker 4>no longer have to pay if you're on Medicare more

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<v Speaker 4>than thirty five dollars a month for your insulin. Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris wants that to be available to everybody, not just

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<v Speaker 4>your seniors on Medicare, because there are a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who are under sixty five who are dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with insulin. And the other thing is under President bind

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<v Speaker 4>and Vice President Harris, they passed a law so that

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<v Speaker 4>now you no longer will have to pay, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>a senior on Medicare more than two thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 4>year for all your prescription drugs. Now, that's lots of

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<v Speaker 4>people are on these expensive cancer drugs and everything else.

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<v Speaker 4>It can cost ten twenty thousand dollars a year. You'll

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<v Speaker 4>never have to pay, no matter how sick you are

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<v Speaker 4>or what kind of drugs you need, more than two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars a year if you're on Medicare. She also

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<v Speaker 4>will extend that to everybody, not just seniors. So these

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<v Speaker 4>are the kinds of programs and plans that actually really

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<v Speaker 4>matter in people's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly there are two very different agendas or the

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<v Speaker 1>administrations that we have to choose from. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back just a bit because I think that there

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<v Speaker 1>are some things that need unpacking for our listeners. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I want to unpack is

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the insulin in the insulin cap. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for our show, we have black listeners and then we

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<v Speaker 1>have allies. We refer to listeners of our show as allies.

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<v Speaker 1>These are people who are allies. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to explain that to you, so, but I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that everyone understands the significance

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<v Speaker 1>of insulin in the black community or.

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<v Speaker 3>Of our non black listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Because diabetes, sugar diabetes, you know what I mean. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that you know, my grandmother had, She was diabetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Both my grandmothers. One of my grandmother's lost her leg

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<v Speaker 1>from diabetes shortly after coming to the US from Cuba.

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<v Speaker 1>She lost her leg Afro Cuban woman. That's something that

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<v Speaker 1>shapes outcomes, you know what I mean. For these companies

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to price gouge for it to disproproportionately

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<v Speaker 1>affect black families, because diabetes is something that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>human condition, but it disproportionately affects black people. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's significant. I also want to mention the

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security element where you said that Donald Trump's agenda

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<v Speaker 1>would bankrupt it in six years. You can correct me

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm wrong. I'm sure you know way more about

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<v Speaker 1>it than I do. But the last time I checked,

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<v Speaker 1>social Security will solvent. I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 4>It's currently solvent, okay, And we have a long term

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<v Speaker 4>problem that you know right now with baby boomers and

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else, we're taking more out of Social Security than

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<v Speaker 4>people are paying you and so there's the constant challenge

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<v Speaker 4>that will hit in the mid twenty thirties right now

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<v Speaker 4>unless we put more money into Social Security, and we've

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<v Speaker 4>got to keep it and replenish it. What Trump's proposals

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<v Speaker 4>would do is accelerate, you know, bring forward the date

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<v Speaker 4>whereby it becomes insolved, and in the process require.

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<v Speaker 2>People to pay a third more.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's you know, he's putting out this proposal which

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<v Speaker 4>sounds really good. You don't have to pay taxes on

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<v Speaker 4>your Social Security. Well, not everybody pays tax on sociecurity.

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<v Speaker 4>It's certain people and the certain people who pay taxes

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<v Speaker 4>that goes straight into the trust fund and it keeps

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<v Speaker 4>it solvent. And the other thing that people don't realize

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<v Speaker 4>is all these undocumented people that he's going to deport,

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<v Speaker 4>they pay into the Social Security Trust Fund and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't take anything out, but their wages are are withheld

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<v Speaker 4>to help the rest of us pay for Social Security. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we can talk about immigration, that's not my point,

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<v Speaker 4>But the point is that, you know, policies have consequences.

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<v Speaker 4>Things that sound good actually have consequences for regular Americans

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<v Speaker 4>who rely on their Social Security and want to know

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<v Speaker 4>that if I'm paying into it today, is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be there for me when I need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there's one last thing I wanted to touch on

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<v Speaker 1>for the benefit of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is Headstart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the things that.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the conversations that we've had on this show

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<v Speaker 1>is how investment in impoverished communities, low income communities, shapes

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<v Speaker 1>outcomes for people that want the crime rate to drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Head start programs, after school programs. There's a direct correlation

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<v Speaker 1>between crime rates lowering and after school programs and head

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<v Speaker 1>Start programs being incorporated into you know, the community, and

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<v Speaker 1>the being accessible to the people. These are for people

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<v Speaker 1>who can fear for the safety of their communities. These

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<v Speaker 1>are for people who you know, we we definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>an activist element in our show. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>pretend like I'm not a part of that activist element.

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<v Speaker 1>These are people that want to see these types of

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<v Speaker 1>investments in the community rather than and increase display in police.

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<v Speaker 1>This this very program that we're talking about here shapes

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<v Speaker 1>those outcomes, and I think it's important to delineate these

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<v Speaker 1>three things and paint these pictures fully for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so that they understand that. Yeah, so I just

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to make sure.

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<v Speaker 2>No head starts critically important. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If the data shows if you can give a kid

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<v Speaker 4>starting at age three or four, you know, the beginnings

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<v Speaker 4>of an education, which is what head Start does, their

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<v Speaker 4>high school completion rate goes way up, their prospects to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, stay out of jail goes way up. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we need to invest in housing, we need

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<v Speaker 4>to invest in education, We need to invest in our

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<v Speaker 4>communities so that people have hope and they have opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>and jobs. You know Trump's approach, and he's been very

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<v Speaker 4>clear to go back to what he said his agenda

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<v Speaker 4>is in Project twenty twenty five. He wants to bring

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<v Speaker 4>back stopping frisk and make that, you know, the standard everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to give police free rein to do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>they hell they want. And you know who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>suffer most from that, that's us. Yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>know remember after George Floyd he called the people protesting

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<v Speaker 4>thugs and he said, when you know, the looting start starts,

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<v Speaker 4>the shooting starts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his approach.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it again and again on the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you think he's been endorsed by the Fraternal

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<v Speaker 4>Order of Police Because he wants to turn the police

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<v Speaker 4>on our black communities. That's his approach, and we all

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 4>know what that looks like. So you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>contrast between you know, somebody who wants as many guns

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<v Speaker 4>in our communities as can possibly be the case, ghost guns,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, three D printed guns, assault weapons. He's for

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the NRA wants, and the more black people killed

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<v Speaker 4>on our streets, as far as he's concerned, the better

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<v Speaker 4>versus Kamala Harris, who knows we need responsible gun safety

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<v Speaker 4>legislation so that we have background checks, so that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have assault weapons, which are only you know, weapons

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<v Speaker 4>of war on our streets. You don't need those for hunting.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's a gun owner, you know, the we need

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<v Speaker 4>red flag laws so that people are going through a crisis,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's an opportunity and they're a danger to

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<v Speaker 4>themselves or danger to somebody else, that their guns can

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<v Speaker 4>be taken away for a period.

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<v Speaker 2>Of time until they're okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's just the contrasts again, could not be greater.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump is a guy who said that the exonerated five,

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<v Speaker 4>the Central Park five, yes, you know, should be executed,

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<v Speaker 4>even after he knew they were innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who he is. He's a guy who said.

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<v Speaker 4>Barack Obama wasn't born in this country, started the whole

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<v Speaker 4>birth of thing. He just despises and disparages black people

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<v Speaker 4>at every.

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<v Speaker 2>Chance he gets.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's how he introduced himself to the political arena,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, by yeah, the birth is President Obama's citizenship.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll only have you for a few more minutes. And

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<v Speaker 5>because we encounter a lot of undecided and apathetic voters,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've heard some of their reasons. Why so, there's

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<v Speaker 5>some things that happened during our last elections and promises

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<v Speaker 5>that were made regarding the John Lewis Voting Rights Act

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<v Speaker 5>and the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act that were

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<v Speaker 5>not as fully addressed as a lot of our listeners

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<v Speaker 5>and potential voters might feel. And amongst young people, the

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<v Speaker 5>United States aid to Israel has been a divisive issue

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 5>with younger voters. Can you, as best you can give

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<v Speaker 5>us some contrast between Vice President Harris and former President

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump's foreign policy with regards to this conflict, and

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<v Speaker 5>about some fulfilled promises for black voters as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, thank you for asking about this. Let me talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me start with the two pieces of legislation you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the George Floyd Legislation.

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<v Speaker 4>President I was working in the White House on these

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<v Speaker 4>issues at the beginning of the administration until last year.

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<v Speaker 4>We worked really hard to get Congress to pass the

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<v Speaker 4>George Floyd Justice and Policing Act and the John Lewis

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<v Speaker 4>Voting Rights Act, And in the Senate, where we did

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<v Speaker 4>not have, you know, the sixty vote threshold to get

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<v Speaker 4>past the filibuster, and we had two Senators Joe Manchin

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<v Speaker 4>and Kirsten Cinema, who refused to allow any reform of

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<v Speaker 4>the filibuster. It was impossible to get those two pieces

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<v Speaker 4>of legislation passed. Now, good news is Mansion and Cinema

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 4>are retiring, and if we can get a majority in

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 4>the Senate, even not a sixty vote majority, just a

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 4>majority in the House. In the Senate, those pieces of

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 4>legislation have a very real prospect of success. But in

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 4>the absence of being able to get the legislation passed

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 4>for George Floyd, what President Biden and Vice President Harris did,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>and I was very much part of this, was to

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 4>write an executive order which was the most expansive and

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 4>comprehensive executive order to reform policing for the federal law

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 4>enforcement that's ever been done. So all the things that

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 4>we were concerned about with George Floyd, banning choke holds,

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, banning, you know, all of the most abusive

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 4>police tactics, ensuring that there's a database and a registry

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 4>for bad cops that have, you know, committed crimes. In

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 4>one jurisdiction but then get hired in another. We fixed

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 4>all that at the federal level, and there are hundreds

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 4>of thousands of federal law enforcement, whether it's your ICE,

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 4>your Border Patrol, your FBI, your DEA, those are all

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 4>federal law enforcement and they are now bound by this

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 4>executive order. So it's not as much as what we

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 4>wanted to get with the George Floyd legislation, where it

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>would apply at the state and local level, but we

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 4>did do it at the federal level. But there's more

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 4>to be done. And that's why it matters not just

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 4>who's the president, but what kind of Congress we have.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 4>But I also want to say, you know that you

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 4>point to two pieces of legislation, they are important that

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 4>we're all frustrated.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Or not law.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 4>But I think people forget what has been accomplished. You know,

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think people really know that under Vice President

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Harrison and Joe Biden, we have reached the lowest black

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 4>unemployment rate in the history of unemployment rate being recorded

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 4>over fifty years, the highest in health insurance rate of

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Black Americans in our history. Black wealth creation has gone

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 4>up sixty percent in this country since before the pandemic

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 4>We have more black businesses being started under Vice President

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Harris and Joe Biden than in thirty years. So there's

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 4>just a lot of things that people. I've talked about

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 4>student loan forgiveness, five million Americans, not everybody we wanted

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 4>to get because the court's blocked some stuff, but five

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 4>million Americans, you know, are not paying for their student

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 4>loans anymore. So there's a lot that we've gotten done,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 4>but there's much more to do, and that's what Kamala

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Harris wants to do with all the proposals that I've

0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 4>already shared with you. So it's really important that we

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 4>have in the White House people who are trying to

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 4>get the right thing done, and when they're accompanied by

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>people in Congress, there is a huge amount we can do.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>We had the first comprehensive gun safety legislation in thirty years.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about Medicare and insulin and drug costs. You know,

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 4>Trump wants to repeal all that and take away your ACA.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 4>There are just so many things that are important that

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 4>make a difference and matters who's in the White House.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>You asked about the Middle East. I think that here too,

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 4>the contrast couldn't be more stark. Kamala Harris has been

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 4>very clear that what happened on October seventh was horrific

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 4>crimes against twelve hundred Israelis who were killed and many raped,

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 4>and that Israel has a right to defend itself. But

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 4>having said that, she is also horrified by the extreme

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 4>suffering of the people in Gaza. That frankly goes well beyond,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, what is strategically necessary or smart if

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 4>you're a friend of Israel. And she's been very clear

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 4>that we have to end the war. We've got to

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 4>get the hostages home, We've got to have a cease fire,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 4>and we need for the people of Gaza and all

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Palestinians to not just have humanitarian assistance and be able

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 4>to rebuild after what has been tremendous destruction, but have

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 4>a very real near term prospect of having a state

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 4>of their own with dignity and security, living side by

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>side in peace with Israel. And so that is what

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 4>she is committed to. Donald Trump is cheerleading Benjamin Netnatu,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 4>not net Nyahu, to go bomb arounds nuclear facilities, which

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 4>will draw the United States directly into war with Iran.

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Cheerleading Netanya, who to continue the war in Gaza and

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 4>to you know, and to turn Lebanon into a parking lot.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 4>He is, He's the one who pulled out of the

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 4>nuclear agreement with Iran and had nothing to replace it,

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 4>and now Iran is closer than ever to having the

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 4>capacity to build nuclear weapons. You know, he has no

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 4>commitment to a two state solution, doesn't want to see

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 4>a Palestinian state.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>He's basically saying.

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 4>To net Nya, who do whatever the hell you want,

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of like what he said to Putin. So you know,

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 4>that's the contrast. And if anybody who is confused about

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump carrying one goddamn about the Palestinian people, then

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>look at his record, look at his record. What is

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, the situation in the Middle East is heartbreaking

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 4>and horrifying, But the answer is having Someboddy in the

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>White House who cares, who understands the stakes, both as

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, a friend of Israel, but as a friend

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 4>of the people of Palestine as well as the broader

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 4>Middle East. We don't need more war, we need real solutions.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 4>And so again the difference couldn't be more stark.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is something that we believe on the show.

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Everything that you said. The nature of our elections in

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>this country leaves us with a binary choice. It's either

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>this or it's that, and that's those are the only

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>two options. You compare one to the other. Often you

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>end up and I don't love the way that this sounds,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but this is a common, you know, conversation that people

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>have around the country. You end up with the lesser

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of two evils. On this show, we have elevated Jewish voices,

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and we've elevated Palestinian voices. We consider ourselves brothers to

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>many communities, and in order to gain insight for ourselves

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and for our listeners, we've had these conversations. One of

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the things that's happened, and you're just in the best

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>position for us to ask. One of the things that's

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>happened is that Palestinian folks and people who have aligned

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>themselves younger voters, college students around the count you know,

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and we've been to some of these protests. What they're

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>seeing right now is the United States funding Israel's attack

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>on the Palestinian people. And for those folks, when it

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>comes to the binary of this election, they feel that

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they're left an impossible choice. Now again, we have had

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to have difficult, very difficult conversations with people that we

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>love on this show about that. So when you say

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it's heartbreaking, trust us when I say that we understand

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that feeling. We've tried our best. Can you offer any

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>words that might motivate someone who's caught in the middle

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>there that maybe we haven't been able to offer them

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in terms of motivating them to vote. We try not

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to scare people, and I don't think that that would

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>be what you try to do.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 3>But maybe there's.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Something that some access, some insight that you might have,

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and we have to ask that question because we've had

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>these conversations here.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me say several things. First of all, you know,

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 4>there's such strong feelings, justifiably so, on both sides of

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 4>this question, and it's what's happening in the Middle East,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, is brutally painful, and so we got to

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 4>take people's concern and passions about this seriously, and I do. Secondly,

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 4>i'd say, you know, Kamala Harris, as she herself has said,

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 4>she's not Joe Biden. She's got a different history, a

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 4>different set of experiences, She's of a new generation, her

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 4>approach to this is not going to be identical to

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden's, But as long as she's a sitting vice president,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 4>there are limits to, you know, what she can say

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 4>or do. She's been clear that she thinks that, you know,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 4>the United States has a responsibility to support Israel's right

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>to defend itself, but she also believes that how they

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 4>do it matters, and that we cannot be indifferent to

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 4>the suffering of the Palestine and people. We've got to

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 4>be There's no dichotomy in the real world between believing

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Israel has a right to defend itself and supporting and

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 4>bolstering the aspirations of the Palestinian people to have state

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>of their own, and to ending this horrific war and

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 4>not seeing it expand. The third point I'd say is

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 4>look at the contrast between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>on this issue, and as I just explained, it couldn't

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 4>be more stark. And some people might say, well, hell,

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 4>I'll just stay home or my vote, you know whatever,

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 4>I'll you know it, you know, I'm not voting for

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 4>either one of them. Will not a vote a vote

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 4>for Donald Trump, a vote for Jill Stein or Cornell

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 4>West or not voting at all. Those are all votes

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 4>for Donald Trump. So let's be clear about that, and

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 4>that The final point I'd make is that, you know,

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 4>maybe people have heard this, you know, all their lives,

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 4>this is the most important election of our lifetime. But

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 4>this really is the most important election of our lifetime

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 4>given what Donald Trump intends to do to this country

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 4>and to black people in this country and to our democracy.

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 4>And the difference this time between now and every other

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 4>time we've said it's the most important election of our

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 4>lifetime is that the Supreme Court has said that the

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 4>president of the United States can do whatever he or

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 4>she wants with immunity from prosecution. So, in other words,

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 4>there are literally no guardrails on Donald Trump. If Donald

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Trump wants to use a military against Americans, he can't.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 4>If Donald Trump wants to you know, sick the police

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>on every black person in this country, he can. If

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 4>he wants to you know, round up and deport anybody

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 4>whose skin color he doesn't like, or strip citizenship from

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 4>naturalized citizens.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>He can't.

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 4>So this is really, truly, you know, a consequential moment.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 4>And as much as you may feel passionately and be

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 4>horrified by what's happening in the Middle East. I don't

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 4>know about you, but I don't feel like I have

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 4>the luxury to make my choice and my vote dependent

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 4>on anyone issue, as strongly as I might feel about it,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 4>because if I do that, I'm saying to every woman

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 4>in this country that will lose their reproductive freedom, I

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 4>don't care about you. I'm saying to every senior citizen

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 4>who is you know, dependent on Medicare and Social Security

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 4>and has gotten now their thirty five dollars insulin and

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 4>their cap on prescription drugs, to hell with you. I

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 4>don't care about you. I'm saying to every black person

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 4>in this country. I don't care if Donald Trump, you know,

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 4>wants to send us back to Jim Crow. I mean,

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 4>there's just so much at stake here, and yes, the

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 4>Middle East is vitally important, but it is not the

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 4>only issue in this campaign. And I just as a

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 4>I got young kids in college aged kids, and I

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 4>know how you know how firmly and strongly felt this issue,

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 4>but you know they are privileged. There are so many

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 4>people in this country who will suffer immeasurably given a

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump presidency. In contrast to a Kamala Harris presidency,

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 4>and I for one am not willing to sell my

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 4>fellow country men and women down there, you know, down

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 4>the river over any single issue, however important.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe before we let you go, I want to just

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>get one more question on just because again, we we

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>cover a lot of topics that you know, activists around

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the country feel very passionate about. As someone who supported

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.479
<v Speaker 1>the Paris Agreement, you're in a better position than most

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to help us understand and discuss the differences and the

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>two nominees approaches to climate change exactly. So would you

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>share with us and with our listeners those different approaches?

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 3>What? What future do we have to look forward to?

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Again, the choice couldn't be more distinct. You know, Kamala

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 4>Harris believes that our climate is warming rapidly and dangerously

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 4>do in substantial part to human activity, and that we

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 4>have got to get a grip on this problem. Is

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, sitting here in Phoenix, we all understand very

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>very well. Oh yeah, yes, or you know, uh, you know,

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 4>if you're in you know, western North Carolina or Florida

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 4>or Georgia, you know what you know what climate change

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 4>is doing? In terms of flooding. We've got to get

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 4>a grip on this problem. Donald Trump continues to call

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 4>climate change a hoax. He didn't believe it, didn't care

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 4>about it. He invited the the biggest all companies tomorrow

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 4>lago and said, if you give me a million dollars

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 4>or more from my campaign, you know I will make

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 4>sure that we continue to protect big oil and do

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<v Speaker 4>in nothing that big oil doesn't want done.

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<v Speaker 2>With respect to dealing.

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<v Speaker 4>With the climate and climate change, dald Trump doesn't even

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<v Speaker 4>talk about climate change. He talks about the environment, which

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<v Speaker 4>for him means, you know, clean water and clean air,

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<v Speaker 4>except he doesn't want clean water and clean air for

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<v Speaker 4>black and brown communities, so he's he And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the Paris Agreement. One of the first things he did

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<v Speaker 4>when he came into office in twenty seventeen was to

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<v Speaker 4>pull the United States out of the Paris Climate Accord,

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<v Speaker 4>which we negotiated under President Obama that made every country

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<v Speaker 4>in the world commit to very concrete targets for lowering

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<v Speaker 4>their emissions, and collectively, if countries adhere to those emission

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<v Speaker 4>reduction targets, we will make meaningful progress towards.

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<v Speaker 2>Tackling climate change. Is not enough.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to actually strengthen and re up those commitments.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you pull out the Climate Agreement, when you

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<v Speaker 4>pull out of Paris, which Trump has said he'll do

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<v Speaker 4>again on day one, you know, we are ensuring that

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<v Speaker 4>not just the United States, but the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>world will not take the steps necessary to address climate.

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<v Speaker 2>Change in a meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's this is dead serious, literally, uh and uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, under Vice President Harris and President Biden, we

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<v Speaker 4>pass something called the Inflation Reduction Act. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a confusing name, but it was the single biggest piece

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<v Speaker 4>of investment in clean energy jobs and clean energy technology

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<v Speaker 4>that our country has ever made. And you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>are now providing incentives, tax incentives for everything, like if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to you know, buy new uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>heat pump for your else, you can get a tax

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<v Speaker 4>incentive for that. If you want to buy an electric vehicle,

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<v Speaker 4>you can get a tax incentive for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're a.

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<v Speaker 4>Company building clean energy, or if you're you know, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get clean school buses on the streets. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what the Inflation Reduction Act is made possible. Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump has said he's going to repeal it. So you

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<v Speaker 4>know again, it's it's kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Night and day.

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<v Speaker 5>The mistakes and importance of this moment are not hyperbolic.

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<v Speaker 2>They really aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wish I wish there wasn't so much

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<v Speaker 4>at stake because it's you know, it makes you nervous

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing how it's going to go and what it

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<v Speaker 4>means is really truly people need to vote, and they

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<v Speaker 4>need to be informed when they vote. They need to

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<v Speaker 4>understand that when Donald Trump, you know, says that he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to unleash the military on Americans, we can't assume

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<v Speaker 4>that's rhetoric. That's what he almost did on January sixth,

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<v Speaker 4>but he had a vice president and others who wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Go along with it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a reason why Donald Trump's vice president, two of

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<v Speaker 4>his national security advisors, two of his secretaries of defense,

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<v Speaker 4>former chairman of the Joint chiefs of Staff, one of

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<v Speaker 4>his secretaries of State, and his White House Chief of Staff,

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<v Speaker 4>General John Kelly, a four star general, have all said

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<v Speaker 4>that Donald Trump is dangerous, he's unfit, and they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Support him to be president.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, have you ever heard of that situation where people

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<v Speaker 4>who work that closely with somebody, people who are appointed

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<v Speaker 4>by him, appointed by him, said he can't come back.

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<v Speaker 2>He's too dangerous. This is not a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>So people need to vote. They need to get their

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<v Speaker 4>family members out to vote. They need to volunteer and

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<v Speaker 4>knock on doors and make book calls. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 4>thing is, it's all up on this and I really

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate the chance to be able to talk with you

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<v Speaker 4>in your.

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<v Speaker 5>Own bless you forgive there's some time. We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's that. One of the things that that Q

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<v Speaker 1>says very often is that you know, when you say

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<v Speaker 1>it enough, it starts to lose it's it's meaning. But

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<v Speaker 1>because in every election, we've always said this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important election of our lives. And you said it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you said it for him, because we've had

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<v Speaker 1>to say that so so often. In fact, we have

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<v Speaker 1>when we leave this interview, we have another like in

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<v Speaker 1>person event that we need to go to where that

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<v Speaker 1>basically is the message that we're communicating to that audience.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming and spending time with us. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope this sounds the way that I wanted to. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're so proud of you. Thank you We're so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you. And you know this is probably like like

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<v Speaker 1>the highlight of of the show so far, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really nice for you to say that. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>proud of you guys, because you're you're doing something really important.

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<v Speaker 4>You're communicating vitally important messages to people who may not

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<v Speaker 4>get them from other places. And you know, people need

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<v Speaker 4>to believe that that they have a stake in their

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<v Speaker 4>their communities, their country, the world, and they do, but

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it's hard to just put that in perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>And you all do that so well. So thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless you thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So much before before we let you go, if you'd like,

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<v Speaker 1>please share any sort of you know, digital content, websites,

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<v Speaker 1>social media, anything like that so people can tap in

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<v Speaker 1>with you, what you got going on with, you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure we leave some connected tissue if you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm on I'm on x formerly Twitter at at

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<v Speaker 4>ambassador Rice. I'm on Instagram at at Ambrice. Okay, but uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I I think more important than you know

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<v Speaker 4>my social media is you know, giving people who who

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<v Speaker 4>don't have as much of a voice the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>be heard and that's what you're doing, so I'm down

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<v Speaker 4>with that more than Elon.

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<v Speaker 2>Musks X much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well, once again, today's guest is Ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Rice, American diplomat, policy advisor, and public official who

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<v Speaker 1>served under the last three Democratic presidents.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much,