1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. On the eve 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: of preseason game number two, as the Texans take on 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: the Rams in La Friday night, nine pm, kick right 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: here and the Bull one hundred point three FM and 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: ABC thirteen and our gift to you tonight, among other things. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Because we have great content Thomas Booker on the show. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: We also have Michael twenty four on the program and 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Chris Moore receiver who you will see tomorrow night in 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: LA doing his thing is a suspension talk and return 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: talk free zone. We all know about the suspension and 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: the return here in December, and of course there will 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: be much discussed about that. But guess what, we have 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: games to discuss, plenty of them, including the one against 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the Rams tomorrow night. So John Harris and I are 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: welcome in the general John McLean, Who's talked about it 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: enough today. John, So I'm not even gonna ask you anymore, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: but I will ask you this, how are you doing 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and what do you think of practice? Because it was 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: more like a regular season type practice yesterday instead of 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: one of those hard hitting training camp type practice. This 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: isn't full pads. Everything's going great, and first of all, 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: you know they only got two preseason games left. After 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: that last preseason game, they get a long break, and 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: I would think coaches would want to play the starters 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: in the last preseason game because if you don't, then 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna have more than three weeks before the start 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: of regular season, and that's a lot of rustic you'd 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: have to work through. But it's pretty obvious that Levy 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: wants him to be ready for this game. A play 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: a late game on Friday night, and I'm excited about it. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: You guys get to see so far as stadium and 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: I'll be watching and I'm excited about it. It's because 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: it's one step closer to the start of regular season. General, 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: the excitement level of seeing Derek Stingley. We think he's 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna play. We don't know for sure, but we think 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna play. But if he does, even if he 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: plays three or four plays, your excitement level, what do 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: you think the fans excitement boys to see Derek Stingley 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: after not playing last three against the Saints. I think 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: he has to play. You can't wait the last minute 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: to put him out there and then expect him to 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: go in as a rookie and not make some mistakes. 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: He needs playing time. And because he's third overall pick 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: and people are gonna get excited about him, they want 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: to see him. He looks the part. He's gonna make 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: some mistakes, He's gonna make some plays. The key is 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: to get him ready for the Colts and then have 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: him improve from there. Maybe he'll make plays like Jalen 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Petrie did. Jalen Petrie plays just like he did it 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Baylor around the line of scrimmage and on special teams. 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: So everybody wants to see Derek Stingley Jr. Because he 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: is one of the highest selected cornerbacks in NFL history. 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see what happens on Friday night against 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: the La Rams nine o'clock kick. By the way, I 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: want to remind everybody once again, I'll be doing this 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: like every five minutes tonight later kickoff in Texans preseason history. 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: John McClain is with us, general, If you're right, the 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: starters play a bunch more next week or at least 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: some against the San Francisco forty nine ers and the 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night preseason finale at n RG Stadium. What do 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: you want to see from Mills in this game against 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: the Rams? Tomorrow night more than he showed in the 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: first game, and he used to play a little bit more. 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, the first team was not on the defense 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: they put out there, and there were eight starters missing 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: from the lineup, but the defense let Andy Dalton go 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: right down the field. They need Davis Mills to go 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: right down the field, especially if he's got his regular 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: starters out there. And you mentioned the forty nine ers, 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing for Amazon's first game and the money that 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Amazon is paying the NFL, and we'll play the NFL, 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: they're talking about one hundred million dollars for a Black 73 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon game that they're gonna want the Forteers and 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the Texans not to do like the typical last preseason 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: game used to be where you put out all the 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: scrubs because they're working out a lot of kicks too. 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: And so I would guess we'd see the starters more 78 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: this week, and then I think we'd see them a 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: little more next week, whether it's a half or whatever 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: they want to do. But they got to get this 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: team ready to play. The calls and the way they 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: used to do it, the starters played a quarter and 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: then two quarters and then three quarters, and then when 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: they played the fourth preseason game, they played most of 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: the game to be ready the next week to step 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: up and play. They used to play on Labor Day weekend, 87 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and the ratings were never good because everybody was on 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: a holiday. So then they figured out, Okay, we're not 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: going to start till the weekend after Labor Day, which 90 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: was one of the smartest decisions they ever made, because 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: then they start with a bang. And so that's the 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: way it used to be, and I don't remember teams 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: having a lot of injuries using that kind of strategy. 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: But then when a salary cap came, and then players 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: started staying in such great shape throughout the off season 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: because they had tremendous facilities to work out at cafeteriasdet 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: three meals a day. Players were more ready for the 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: start of regular season because of what they've been doing 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: the entire offseason and then preseason to make sure they 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: were in tip top shape mentally and physically. John, if 101 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: we go to eighteen games and it seems like a 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: foregone conclusion, so you're saying no Labor Day even in 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: that case, So we're gonna push right up against March 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: here with the super Bowl with an eighteen game model. 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Is that your thought, it doesn't matter the super Bowl. 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: You could put it in May. It doesn't matter. You know, 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: when a city gets the super Bowl, they have to 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: set aside the hotel rooms at everything for a month. 109 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: So if you got super Bowl scheduled on February seventh, 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: you got to have the rest of February in case 111 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: there's some catastrophe at the event that forces you to 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: move it back. And because it can be playing cold 113 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: weather and they usually don't playing cold weather, what does 114 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: it matter if it's March first? I think when you 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: go to eighteen games, you got to go to two 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: by weeks. That's the only fair thing to do. But 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: they're never gonna play on Labor Day weekend. They learned 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: the hard way. That's not the way to tip it off. 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: So I've been wondering what I would do if I 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: won the lottery when it got up to like nine 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: hundred you know, almost to a billy one hundred million, 122 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: that's all it would take to get a Black Friday 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: game I could put on my YouTube channel? Is that 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: like if I went to the NFL said, look, i'll 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: give you one hundred and fifty million to my lottery winnings. 126 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: But you got to broadcast the game on my YouTube 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: channel with that, that's it. That's something I could do. Yeah, 128 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: that's a wise investment, Johnny. Yeah, I would be promoting 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: something pretty darn good if you're gonna invest that kind 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: of cash. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So at that point, John 131 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: we know with the Rams and Sean McVay, I don't 132 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: think he's played a starter in a preseason game in years. 133 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: But I asked Nick and I asked Mark this question. 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: If McVay said to us, look, you're gonna play one 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: of these other which team or which player do you 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: think would give the Texans a better look on Friday Night? 137 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald or Matt Stafford, one of them has to play. 138 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: Which one would you want the Texas to face to 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: get more out of their presence. I would want to 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: see them play Stafford because the defense was terrible last year. 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Lovey was not happy with the secondary, so they got 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: four news starters in the secondary, which is rare. I 143 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen that with a team 144 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I've covered for forty five years, that they they just 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: flush everything and have four Now they're gonna be playing 146 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: five because the Rams will be playing multiple receivers. But 147 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: I think it rather see Stafford and see if they 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: could get some pressure on him, and see how these dbs, 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: especially the two rookies and Jonathan Owens first time starter 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Steven Nelson's a veteran starter, to see how they go 151 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: against some of the best receivers and one of the 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: best offenses in the NFL. And because we know Aaron 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: Donald would create havoc on the interior of the offensive line, 154 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: and we don't need to see that. We know it, 155 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: and so that's why I'd rather see the secondary. In 156 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the past, rush John. They've had some knicks at tight 157 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: end obviously, and they traded for Shaheen and now he's 158 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: on IR after the trade did not go through, went 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: back to the Dolphins, went on IR. Mike McDaniel said, yeah, 160 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: this proves the system works. Okay, I guess, But if 161 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: it comes time, when it comes time for waiver claims 162 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, do you expect tight end 163 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: to be the position where they might look the most. 164 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going to happen in these last 165 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: two games injury wise, but based on where we are 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: right now, what McDaniel said, made no sense whatsoever. They 167 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: asked him the question and he tapped, danced and talked 168 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: about the system. First time head coach having to respond 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: a tough question like that, and you know, sheman brags 170 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: the whole time before the trade, and then they failed 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: him here and then he goes back and next thing 172 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's on IR and Evan surgery and maybe 173 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: he got hurt on the flight going from Miami to Houston. 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: But Nick Cassario on Lovey Smith and Pat Hamilton obviously 175 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: wanted a tight end who specialized in blocking. Now seem's 176 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: former second round pick. So Nick's not afraid to trade 177 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: low picks for players. So I could see before a 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: tight end was waived, and you risk who's gonna get him, 179 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Cassario trading another low pick for a tight end that 180 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: he figures is going to be traded, and in fact 181 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: there's blocking tighten is. I think the best quote I've 182 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: seen yet draining camp was what Farrell Brown said his agent, 183 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: totally blocking tight ends make the minimum. And so I 184 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: think Cassario will add a blocking tight and I'm guessing 185 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: it's gonna be for a low pick like he was 186 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: willing to do for Shan, John and Mark you say 187 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: this question for a little bit later. We've seen every 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: single practice in training camp, so I don't think anything 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: qualifies as a surprise in some sense. But as we 190 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: start moving towards very quickly, mind you, we are a 191 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: week away from that last preseason game against the Tampa 192 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers or excuse me, the San Francisco forty nine ers. 193 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Cuts are coming, but the opposite of cuts are. Oh man, 194 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: that guy's a surprise to make this team. Is there 195 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: a player that you look at it and think, Okay, 196 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's not a surprise to me because I've seen 197 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: every single day in every single practice, but maybe to 198 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: the fans going, wait a second, that guy made the team. 199 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Who is that? I don't know who that is. Do 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: you have a guy or two in mind that could 201 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: potentially make this team that might be a surprise to 202 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: others that haven't been following it the way that we have. Well, 203 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: first of all, cuts are not nearly as Vegas they 204 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: used to be because you put them back on the 205 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: practice squad. Right, So a guy like kern Heinis big 206 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Heinie is John Pendergas, the Golden Dumer calls him you know, 207 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition in the interior defensive line 208 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: where they keep a guy like that over a ross 209 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: black clock and if if heinisch and they like him 210 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: and they cut him, they could probably put him on 211 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad. And I think that the toughest cuts 212 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: are going to be at receiver because they got numbers 213 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: and the receivers may force them to keep an extra 214 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: one and cut a guy in another position, but they'll 215 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: have plenty on the practice squad way to elevate, to elevate. 216 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: But every time I look at those receivers, the guy 217 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: like Johnny Johnson, the third, I've not even paid any 218 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: attention to him, and then he made to play the 219 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: game along with Jalen Camp. And who thought going into 220 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: training camp Jalen Camp had a chance to make this team. 221 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: I thought, well, practice squad again, and it still may be. 222 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: But they got tough decisions, and the veterans like Dorset, 223 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: Connolly and more, you know they're going to keep all 224 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: three of those guys to go with their young guys. 225 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: So they got it's a good problem to have when 226 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: you have some talent at a position. And I would 227 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: say a guy like Jalen Camp, who I didn't give 228 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: a second thought going into camp. I was thinking, Okay, 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Nico Collins, that's the young one I wanted to see 230 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: step up, and he has and then camp, starting early 231 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: in camp, he's looked good and then he had that 232 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: great touchdown catch and then he had to catch on 233 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the winning drive. He's going to force his way onto 234 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: this roster and when he makes if he makes a 235 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: couple more plays in the preseason like that, they may 236 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: not be able to waive him and put him on 237 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad because other teams see that. Fortunately, there 238 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: are a lot of receivers out there. But if I 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: had to pick one guy on offense, I would say 240 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: Jalen Camp. I had to pick one guy on defense 241 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: because they need to help in the interior. Be Kern. 242 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Heinis undrafted tackle from Notre Dame. That's gonna be tough 243 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: with highness, I think. And Camp, if it comes down 244 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: to that, you're right, and who would have funked it 245 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: that With Metschi and his situation health wise and unavailable 246 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: football purposes, you're looking at a possible numbers crunch at receiver. 247 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: But that appears to be the case right now. Again, 248 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: we have two preseason games to go against the Rams. 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night at nine is the next one. In general, 250 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me with the Rams and the 251 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: way they handle the preseason. Let's put that aside right now. 252 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, though Stafford appears to be 253 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: doing much better with the elbow issue, what kind of 254 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: chance do you give them to repeat the NFC with 255 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: the Packers? And I don't know what's going on in 256 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: Tampa with Tom Brady and everything, but what kind of 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: chance to give the Rams to be Super Bowl champs 258 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: back to back? Let me go back right quick. John 259 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: Madge's third We all thought when he was ready, he 260 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: come in and he playing a slot. Right now, he's 261 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: an extra second round pick next year. They got eleven 262 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: picks next year. Right now, we know Sario probably trade 263 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: a couple, and that a couple two number one picks. 264 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: John Matchie is an extra number two. So when people 265 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: look at it this year like, oh man, it's terrible, 266 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: they're not gonna have Matchie. Start thinking ahead because this 267 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: time next year that we might be talking about the 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Texans as a wild card contender. That's when they're going 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: to be ready to shock the world. As far as 270 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: the Rams. I don't give him a chance until a 271 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: team repeats I'm not going to pick him because we 272 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen it since the Patriots after the three and 273 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: oh four season, and there's just so much balance in 274 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: both sides. You know, people ask about who's the team 275 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: in the NFC, Well, the Packers play a bad division. 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: They always seem to get home field advantage. They can't 277 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: do squat with it. Okay, Tom Brady's coming back, assuming 278 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't take a vacation during regular season, but he's 279 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: got three interior linemen who are gone. They got personnel issues, 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: Gronk's gone. Do you pick them and the Rams? If 281 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: you look at it, you know, the Rams and the 282 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Packers and the Bucks seem to be the three best teams. 283 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: And if it comes down to it, I gotta go 284 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: with the Packers and the Rams. And if the Rams 285 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: have home field advantage, whether they have home field advantage 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: or not, the Packers can't do anything with it when 287 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: they get it, and so I'd say be one of them. 288 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I think the NFL the AFC has has more balanced 289 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: and more power, but it seems right now, based on 290 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: if you look at what I just said, the Rams 291 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: could have a very good chance to get back because 292 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: of what they're going up against. John your boy Matt 293 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: rule has taken fighting Baylor Bears to a whole different 294 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: level where they went the Foxborough. But all indications are 295 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: the Panthers went up there outside of the fights and 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: held their own and the joint practices against the Patriots. 297 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: And it looks like Baker Mayfield will indeed be the 298 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: number one quarterback there. If Baker keeps it under control 299 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: and just doesn't give games away and kind of plays, 300 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, within the system, so to speak, could the 301 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Panthers be a sneaky hot team in the nfcuit Well, 302 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: first of all, the two years that Mayfield was healthy 303 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: with the Browns, he didn't give games away. You know, 304 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: they won and they got to the second round of 305 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's the only quarterback on the Browns history 306 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: to win a road playoff games is sixty nine and 307 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: I was a sophomore in high school. And he's hungry, 308 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: he's playing for money. He's got a chip on his 309 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: shoulder because the way things happened in Cleveland. But the 310 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: key is Christian McCaffrey. When McCaffrey signed that big contract, 311 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: he's been hurt the last two years. If he's hurt, 312 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: they're in trouble. If he's back and he's healthy, giving 313 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: them the versatility that we saw him do when he 314 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: played here was that last two years ago? When was 315 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: it he had that three game twenty nineteen when he 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: was a great at receiving and rushing. And if he 317 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: can stay healthy, he can do that and provide a 318 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: lot of balance. They got a couple of receivers, but still, 319 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: you know, to me, they'd be fighting the Saints for 320 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: second place, and we don't know what the Saints got. 321 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen was four and twelve two years a head 322 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: coach for the Raiders. You know, Jameis Winston had a 323 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: five touchdown game early last year, blew out his knee. 324 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: The loss of Sean Payton, who controlled everything, including personnel, 325 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: has got to impact the Saints. So if they were 326 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: to be if all of a sudden, You're right, the 327 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Panthers were better than everybody thought. Could they finish second, maybe, 328 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: but that still might be a team with a losing 329 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: record and finished second in a terrible division. After the Buccaneers, general, 330 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the NFC. I talked about it with 331 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: the Rams we talked about Tampa a little bit, Green 332 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Bay a little bit. Give me the NFC East here. 333 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Are you going to pick the Cowboys over the Eagles? 334 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: What are you thinking there? There's been no repeat division 335 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: champion since Andy Reid won four in a row with 336 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and that seems like Emmons Ago. Cowboys have 337 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the best quarterback by far, They've got a good defense. 338 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people want to pick Philadelphia, and Okay, 339 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going into his third year. They gave 340 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: me J Brown. You know, we the three of us, 341 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: know what a J. Brown is capable of. I still 342 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: can't believe that the boy that the Titans didn't find 343 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: a way to get his contract worked out and he'll 344 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: make them stronger. But I'm going with the Cowboys because 345 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott, who is clearly the best quarterback in 346 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: that division. And history says, nope, it'll be somebody else. 347 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: Will We know it's not going to be the Commanders, 348 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: and we know it's not going to be the Giants, 349 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: so it'd have to be the Eagles. It'll be a 350 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: great two team race in the NFC's John of the 351 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills the best team a in the NFL B 352 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: in the FC. Who boy, Kansas City beat him? Last 353 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: year Kansas City lost, Tyreek killed Buffalo. I don't think 354 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: lost any of their best players. Everybody's picking the Bills. 355 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Bills to it for their fans, 356 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, great fans. It's been you know, four Super 357 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Bowl losses. Can you imagine if they go back and 358 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: they get beating in, get beat on the miss field goal. 359 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: But I'd love to see it. But when everybody's picking it, 360 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, what are the odds. As long as Kansas 361 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: City has Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and I don't 362 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: care who the receivers and the running backs are, they 363 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: are a super Bowl contender. The team that didn't make 364 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I'm guessing you guys will agree with this, 365 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: that has the best chance to go to the the Super 366 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: Bowl is the one we saw the Texans knocked out 367 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, the Los Angeles Chargers. They added to 368 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: their defense. Guys, Justin Herbert may be a get three 369 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: undred million guaranteed quarterback this time next year. That guy 370 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: is big time. They didn't let any key players get away, 371 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: and they may win that division. But I'm gonna pick 372 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the Bills because I want the Bills to do it, 373 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: because I want them to do it for their fans. 374 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: They got a first class organization in every way. Every 375 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: time I look at Josh Allen, now a quarterback to 376 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Texans beat in their last playoff victory in twenty nineteen, 377 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: he looks like a tight end. You know, he's six's 378 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: five and he hit the weights. Everybody talks about the 379 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: way he looks physically well, the way he plays. He's 380 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: got to be able to take punishment. But you know 381 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: who don't like the Bills Maybe the Jets fans. So 382 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's Buffalo's year. That's a good point. You know, 383 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: I hate a lot of teams, Colts, Cowboys, don't have 384 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: to list them all right here, I was, I don't 385 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: have all day, But I don't hate the Bills. I 386 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: want to beat them badly, But it's not a hatred 387 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: thing for me. It's a little bit different with that. 388 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: General John Harris brought up the fighting Baylor Bears, but 389 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: in a Carolina matt Rule context. I'm going to bring 390 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: them up in a college context only because of the 391 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: deal that was announced this morning that the Big Ten 392 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: is getting seven billion with a B seven billion dollars 393 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: a year. No, it's not a year. It's a total 394 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: deal with NBC, CBS and was at Fox trunks and yeah, 395 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be about a billion a year for 396 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: the league. It's a seven ish year deal. Your thoughts 397 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: on that and how it further affects the landscape of 398 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: college sports. No, that's great. There's two conferences, the SEC, 399 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: which will always be the best, you know, the Big Ten. 400 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Let's face it, they get all that money because their 401 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: TV markets, not because they're great. You know, Michigan beat 402 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Give me a break, now, Ohio State is 403 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: the best school in USC and UCLA maybe sorry, they 404 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: did it on the field, just like Oklahoma in Texas 405 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: could be sorry they're going to SEC on the field. 406 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: But it's all about money. And it's interesting that within ils, 407 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, schools don't have to give money illegally anymore, 408 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: and now there's plenty to give and so more power 409 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: to them. You know, ESPN dropped out. ESPN's got the 410 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: Big twelve and they got the SEC, and and by 411 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Morgan and Washington, of course they want to go to 412 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: the Big ten. But Big ten, those schools, why should 413 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: they share that money. You know, the states of Washington 414 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and Oregon don't bring a lot to the table as 415 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: far as eyeballs. It's funny to me, I would love 416 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: to know what USC and UCLA how many people watch 417 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: their games in LA. You know, there's so many things 418 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: going on in LA. You know they I know they 419 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: got it for the TV market, But just because you're 420 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: in a big TV market doesn't necessarily mean people care 421 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: about watching your team. Yeah, but you know what, people 422 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: are gonna want to watch Michigan and Ohio State in 423 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: LA because you have all the transplants and people who 424 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: are fans. I mean, these are big time with constant 425 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: even these are big time schools playing UCLA and uc 426 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: USC now, So I think that'll have somewhat of a 427 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: of an impact in that market. Perhaps I think it's 428 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: in main to beat at UCLA today. Give me a break. 429 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: But no, let's be honest. Ucla wasn't so much to 430 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: throw in, but it was the throw in the u 431 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: USC was the big dog in this. But John to 432 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: ask you this, because the big twelves kind of teetering, 433 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: sort of like the PAC twelve is teetering as well. 434 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: I think the Big Twelve stays alive in some way, 435 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: shape or form, which Baylor is in right now. But 436 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: if the Big twelve dissolved, would you feel better about 437 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: Baylor going into a revised PAC twelve or to the ACC. Well, 438 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Baylor's I don't think the Big twelve's 439 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna resolve. With the four teams they've added, they're about 440 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: to get a bigger TV deal, their rights are coming up. 441 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I think in one more year. That got a new commissioner. 442 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: And because they're spread out all over the pendrine every 443 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: time zone, they liked what they bring to the table. 444 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: Texas in Oklahoma. You know what's Texas. It's a brand, 445 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: of course, But what's Texas done lately? Texas done something 446 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: in OH five and oh six. I can't remember last 447 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: time they were a prominent national team. To Oklahoma is 448 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: but Oklahoma's gone from Lincoln Riley to a defensive coordinators 449 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: the head coach. They had a lot of transfers in Oklahoma. 450 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: Always good because the Sooners recruit well. The Lawhorns recruit 451 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: well too, and they're just coming off one of their 452 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: greatest recruiting season and Steve Costs to Arcasian bombs out again. 453 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: Gary Patterson's going to be the head coach there and 454 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody knows it, so it doesn't bother me whatever happens 455 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: to Baylor. I've never had illusions a grand duur about 456 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Baylor then in a sec or the Big ten or 457 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: any of that. But the PAC twelves kind of yesterday's news. 458 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: And a year ago Pac twelve was not interested in 459 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Now the Big twelve is not interested 460 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve, although I used would like to 461 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: see him get air zone Arizona State, Utude in Colorado 462 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: and bring them in BYU natural rival rivalry with Utah. 463 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: So I you know, just because you get twenty million 464 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: less a year doesn't mean you're going to go out 465 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: of business. You got wealthy lumps can write a check 466 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: for that. General, thanks so much for the time. As always, 467 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: we really enjoyed the visit, and we look forward to 468 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I look forward tomorrow night too, look forward 469 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: to listening to you guys, and I have a great 470 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: time in LA and don't get any trouble who us 471 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: never all right, there's the General John McClain. Always a 472 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: pleasure to have him on. Now a couple of reminders 473 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: here we mentioned the nine o'clock kick, remember that also 474 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: it's on ABC thirteen. It's live right here and on 475 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: the Bull one hundred point three FM. Many of you 476 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: are listening at home on the app on your home 477 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: smart device like Alexa or whatever. Yes, you can get 478 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: it on there and then slow down the TV signal 479 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: with your DVR controller and hear the radio call with 480 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: the TV. But I recommend listening to Spencer Tillman and 481 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler Andrew Doherty on the sideline as well. Listen 482 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: to everybody, how about that. But once we get to 483 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: the regular season, definitely tune out the TV announcers for sure, 484 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: and check it out on your home smart device and 485 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: sync it up with the TV. I recommend it if 486 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: you're somewhere else this weekend. You're traveling on a Friday night, 487 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: you want to listen. In Austin, We're on thirteen hundred AM. 488 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: You want to listen in San Antonio, We're on seven sixty. 489 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: In fact, on the website you can find all the 490 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: stations that the Texans Radio Network is on, very cool 491 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: and TV stations all over the state as well, so 492 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: you will not miss the game. There are no excuses, 493 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: so check out the game Friday night nine pm. Coming up, 494 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from some Texans coming out the practice 495 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: field as they get ready for the Big Tilt preseason 496 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: game number two. We've got Thomas Booker from Stanford. He's 497 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: coming up in the last segment. Michael Dwump four a 498 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: d lineman, really interesting guy, coming up next segment. And 499 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: Chris Moore, who will undoubtedly be seeking to make some 500 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: big plays against LA tomorrow. He's next here on Texans 501 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Radio twenty four hours from now. We will not be 502 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: kicking the ball yet because the game kicks at nine 503 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow night. Did I mention that yet? Texans at 504 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: RAMS nine pm right here, of course, will be in 505 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: pregame mode twenty four hours from now and also live 506 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: on ABC thirteen. Now Live on the field will be 507 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Chris Moore, receiver who wears number fifteen, and he made 508 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: some plays last year touchdown against the Patriots, that was sweet. 509 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: He's been making a lot of catches in camp. You've 510 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: read about him and Harris Hits Johnny's talked about him 511 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: on the year. Well, here let's hear from the receiver 512 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: with Deepcity, the Deep slap interview presented by ex Fit 513 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: of the Chris gotta feel good to be out here 514 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: playing some preseason games. How has camp gone for you 515 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: so far? Yeah, I mean it's been good. It's like 516 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: you said, it's great to be back out here just 517 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: playing football, just working with the team. You've made some 518 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: pretty gorgeous catches out here in practice. When you think 519 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: about the chemistry between you and Mills, how's it really 520 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: improved from last year to this year. I mean it's 521 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: proved a lot. We got a lot off season work. 522 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: We did two trips where we went somewhere and through together, 523 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, I just think it's going to keep 524 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: growing and keep building. How important is that for quarterbacks 525 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: and wide receivers to get together in the off season. 526 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: You guys obviously get a lot of work during the season, 527 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: But what can you accomplish in the off season that 528 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: you can't accomplish during these normal practice We get more 529 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: just chances to work on our timing because the NFLS 530 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: is a big timing league, So you got to be 531 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: able to He has to trust for I'm gonna be 532 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: at and I have to trust that he's gonna throw 533 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: the ball where I'm going to be at so. I 534 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: mean it's very important to get that work in. I mean, 535 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: you've worked with a lot of different quarterbacks year seven. 536 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Is it more on the receiver to adjust their timing 537 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: or is it a little bit of the quarterback or 538 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: is it both? I say it's a little bit of both. 539 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: It's really like I said, it's a trust thing, and 540 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: we gotta trust each other that I'm gonna be in 541 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: the spot and he's gonna throw it to this spot. 542 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I've got Terence Brooks here watching you, and he's got 543 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: some autographs. Terence, do you want to say anything? Oh? No, 544 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: I just really liked this guy. I just listen to 545 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: him talk. He's a great guy. I love that guy. 546 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: A little audience of one, all right, Chris, So. A 547 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: lot of people have talked about pet Hamilton running this offense. 548 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: You were here last year. Without giving too much away, 549 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: what's been the biggest difference with Pep running this offense? 550 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: I just say, I mean, a lot of offenses have 551 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: little similarities in it. So's it's the NFL. You just 552 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: got to learn the concepts and stuff. But I mean, 553 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just the mentality that we're bringing to 554 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: the offense, and I think once we show identity throughout 555 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: the season, we show who we are, it's gonna be 556 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: fun and successful. What have you thought about the wide 557 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: receivers group here so far? You've obviously got branding cooks, 558 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: but you're a lot of young guys as well. Nko. 559 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: You saw Nico's growth from last year this year as 560 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: a whole. You know, what do you like about the 561 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers from I just like everybody, nobody's selfish. Everybody 562 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: is in here to do a job, and we're all 563 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: making each other better. We're all very smart guys. I 564 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: think everybody's studying the playbook, knows almost every position, so 565 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: it's great competition in there and that it just makes 566 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: everybody better. All Right. You're obviously veteran in the league, 567 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: so when you look at your game, how is it 568 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: that you can get better year over year working with 569 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: a guy like Davis Mille. It just for me, it's 570 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: being more consistent and making sure that the quarterbacks can 571 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: trust me know where I am and when they throw 572 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: me to all they know that I'm gonna make that 573 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: catch for them. So that's just every every year I 574 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: come into the league and do another year. I'm just 575 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: trying to just improve my consistency. Really, did you do 576 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: anything different in the off season? This was one of 577 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: the first offseason I really got to spend a lot 578 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: of time with the quarterbacks like we did, like we said, 579 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: So that was in. Then I started training with one 580 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: of my good friends teammates. I did it last year, 581 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: but it's now two years in a row, so I'll 582 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: get in the field for it and so that I 583 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: feel like that's been helping me a lot. So when 584 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: you're working out with Davis Mills and the wide receivers 585 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and you guys are out, I know there's a lot 586 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: of stuff that you guys do off the field to 587 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: sort of bond. What was your most favorite thing that 588 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: you did. I'm a big food guy, so I like 589 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: to eat. So we went to some nice restaurants, got 590 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: some good food. We also went golfing too, so I've 591 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: been I've been getting into golf a lot lately, and 592 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: so I was just fun. It's just fun to hang 593 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: out with these guys outside of football because you get 594 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: to relax and just to talk about different things that 595 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: aren't related to football. So it's great. All right, there's 596 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: dB C doo with Chris Moore. Now, let's hear from 597 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: another player who you will undoubtedly see tomorrow night against 598 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the La Rams at so far. This is Michael dwam four. 599 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: Joined the team relatively late in the season, immediately made 600 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: an impact and was much needed because the Texans were 601 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: really hurting on the d line at one point and 602 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: had COVID issues and everything else. Jacksonville appeared in that 603 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: game anyway, he was at Michigan, went to Rutgers as well. 604 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: He's from New Jersey. We get into all that. I 605 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: caught up with him coming off the practice field. Hey, Mike, 606 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: what do you showed up last year? You made plays 607 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: right away? What do you attribute that too, being able 608 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: to contribute the way you did. I attribute that to 609 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Coach Love's defense. When I came in, they just, you know, 610 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: it took me in, showed me the ropes, showed me 611 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the system, and when I got my opportunity, you know, 612 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I just took advantage and God, God just let me 613 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: do what I do. How does this system compare with 614 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: others you've been in. I'm used to playing in the 615 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: system like penetrated coming off the ball. I played it 616 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: in college, so kind of a, it's what I do. 617 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: So all right, So you're from New Jersey, but you're 618 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: at Michigan and Rutgers better campus to hang out at, 619 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: huh Michigan or Rutgers. I didn't get an opportunity to this, uh, 620 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: to see Rutgers campus because it was COVID yet when 621 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: I was there, So you know, I gotta go in, 622 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: all right. And what do people not understand about New Jersey? 623 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes New Jersey gets a bad rap or you gonna 624 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: defend New Jersey. Uh, no need to man, People could 625 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: think what they want, but we some we some dogs, man, 626 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: we some you know, we go get it at the 627 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: end of the day. So you know it's Dirty Jersey 628 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: for a reason. You got a lot of football talent 629 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Oh yeah, it was definitely all over 630 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: North South. We we got a lot of talent. You know, 631 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: we're a small state, but you know we carry big way, yeah, 632 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: way more than New York and New York's a huge state. Michael, 633 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: tell me about the d line room and who stands 634 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: out to you personality wise, like who's the real cut 635 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: up jokester or somebody who kind of holds court in 636 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: that meeting room. Oh, man, I I can't pick one guy, 637 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: because I promise you we're all comedians. Uh. This is 638 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: one of the funniest D Lines that I've ever been 639 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: a part of, you know, because Jacques brings great you know, 640 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and uh, you know, brings good chemistry between everybody, 641 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, it's a blessing to be a 642 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: part of the D Line. You know, great group of 643 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: guys and uh, you know, we push each other every day, 644 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: have fun every day. So when you have a coach 645 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: like Jacques Cesari who played for a while, does that 646 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: make it a little bit different knowing that he's been 647 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: through what you're going through. Oh yeah, definitely. Uh it 648 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: makes it you know when when we have those tough days, 649 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, he looks, he gives you that look like, yeah, 650 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I know I've been through here before, you know, saying 651 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, giving us good words of encouragement to keep 652 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: us going. And you know, Jack's a great guy. Okay, 653 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: So regular training camp practice in pads versus what you 654 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: had on Wednesday, which is more like a regular season practice. 655 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: It looks like you're doing something not game planning, but 656 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: getting used to your roles and things like that, which 657 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: is more enjoyable to you as a player, or does 658 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: it not matter. I love football period, So whatever, you know, coaches, 659 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: whatever we have for the days, you know, it's what 660 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. You know what I mean, It involved 661 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: football and I love football. This is my job, my 662 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: dream job. So you know, it's a blessing to come 663 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: out here every day and be able to put on 664 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: the Texas logo. What does it mean to you to 665 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: go play the Rams in La? You know, it is 666 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: just another football game, but at the end of the day, 667 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: we want to go out there and win and get 668 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: better as a team. You know, they are obviously the 669 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: former Super Bowl champs, you know, playing in front of 670 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players all the time, Aaron Donald, 671 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: So you know, definitely just gonna go do what you 672 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: know I've been coached to do, you know. So that's 673 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: played football and do my job. Michael, thanks a lot, 674 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: good luck, Yes sir, thank you. Texans defensive lineman Michael Dwambo. 675 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Now coming up another DL. This is going to be 676 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: Thomas Booker in the final segment and Drew Doherty. Nobody 677 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: asks the questions that who does And that's probably a 678 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: good thing, and that's coming up, as we hear from 679 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: Thomas Booker going back to the West Coast to play 680 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: against the Rams tomorrow night, nine o'clock kickoff. Yeah, I 681 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: have mentioned that a few times. It's Texans Radio, all right, 682 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: bringing it home here Texans Radio on the eve of 683 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: preseason game number two, when the Texans take on the 684 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Rams nine o'clock tomorrow night in southern California. I'm speaking 685 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: of California. That's where Stanford is located. And there's some 686 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: stereotyping going on. Those Stanford guys are smart. That's kind 687 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: of because you know they are. Anyway, Drew Doherty catches 688 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: up with one of them, Thomas Booker, rookie for your 689 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, playing on the d line. Here's Drew Thomas Booker, 690 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman for the Houston Texans, joins us now on 691 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: Drew's dozen. Booker is your last name? Did you know 692 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: there used to be a TV show called Booker? No? 693 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: I did not. I was not aware of that. When 694 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: did it come out is in the early nineties, so 695 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: well before you. It was a spinoff of the twenty 696 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: one Jump Street franchise, and it was storing a guy 697 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: named Richard Greenko Oh really, Yeah, that was before I 698 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: was probably even a thought, So yeah, I don't think 699 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: I was hip to that one. This interview is off 700 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: to an awful start. So let's go with nineteen ninety nine, 701 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: the year you were born, phenomenal year pop culturally. I'm 702 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna say one thing or person. You got to answer 703 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: with something else from nineteen ninety nine that resonated it. 704 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: I'll start Britney Spears nine nine nine by Prince Boom. 705 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: That's a good one. I'll take it. How about the 706 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys and Sink Star Wars coming back? That movie 707 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: The Star Trek. I guess like the older the Older 708 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: Star Trek. Yeah, all right, we made it three. That's cool. 709 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: With nineteen ninety nine though, phenomenal year you were born. 710 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: That year crab cakes and lacrosse or crab cakes in football. 711 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I know crab cakes in football is the saying from 712 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: that movie, but it's really crab kikes and lacrosse if 713 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: you're from Maryland, right, So I'd say crab cakes and lacrosse, 714 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: just because lacrosse is so much more of a thing 715 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: in Maryland than it is anywhere else. I thought there's 716 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: a couple of places that claim football is being like, 717 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: you know, a religion in Texas is one of them. 718 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: So I probably say lacrosse. You know, you see a 719 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: lot of the talent across the country in college, they're 720 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: all from Maryland. Probably crab kicks lacrosse is because those 721 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: are two very Maryland things. Are you a crab kick guy? 722 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: I am a crab kick guy. I'm a big crab 723 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: kicking Old Bay guy. Crab kicking Old Bay And a 724 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: lot of people out here like, don't put too much 725 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: breading in it, so on and so forth, what's the deal? 726 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: So I think then when you put too much breading 727 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: on it is because you don't have actually like good crab, 728 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: so you're just trying to fry it, you know, and 729 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: some people really can't taste the quality. So I'd say 730 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: that there's definitely a quotient to hit with the amount 731 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: of breading versus the amount of crab me. So, I'm 732 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: not too much of a huge bread guy. Did you 733 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: play any other sports grown up? Yeah? I played a 734 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: ton of different sports. Play tennis. Tennis is actually my 735 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: first sport. My dad played it too. My dad played 736 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: a linebacker at the University of wisconsonantly started playing tennis, 737 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: So I was nastport first and then it was baseball, basketball, 738 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: ran track for a little bit, the shot and disc 739 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: so I tried to, you know, stay away from specialization 740 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: as much as I could when I was a kid. 741 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate my parents for let me go to everything 742 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: and drive me everything. So it's tennis the favorite of 743 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: those other non football sports. It's probably either tennis or basketball. 744 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: I used to watch a lot of tennis, like j 745 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: Federer was like my favorite player, Roger Federer and Serena, 746 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: those of the two, So I used to watch the 747 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: Grand Slams between Federer and Nadal all the time. My 748 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: sister also played tennis, so I usually she's ten years 749 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: older than me, so I spent a lot of my 750 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: childhood driving around my parents to go see her play 751 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: and all that. So probably tennis or basketball, you know, 752 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: bringing up Federer, Serena, Michael Phelps is not tennis. But 753 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking champions of champions, like winners at the highest level. 754 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: Who would you say, athletically is the tippy top in 755 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: that regard, I'd say overall, Unfortunately, because I'm a big, 756 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: big lebron fan, it's probably Michael Jordan in terms of 757 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: like the champion of champions. You can't really do that 758 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: much better than a perfect resume in the finals. I 759 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: think then it goes Tom Brady. You know, just the 760 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: amount of times he's been to the big game and 761 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: the amount of times that he's won it. It's hard 762 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: to equal that, especially in a sport like football, whereas 763 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: there's no series one game any given Sunday. And then 764 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: I'd probably have to go with the tennis guys. I 765 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: think Djokovic is coming up on it now, but I 766 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: think Serena Federer, Pete Sampris, all those guys. Yeah, what 767 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: are you reading these days? So what I'm reading right 768 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: now is Olie is about blocking Gladwell. I'm about to 769 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: finish that one up right now. Super interesting basically just 770 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of tells you about some of the misgivings we 771 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: have as a society about success and then where it 772 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: comes from. So that's super interesting. And I finished a 773 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: couple of other books. Surveillance Capitalism was another one that 774 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: I was I was reading about just kind of talking 775 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: about social media and all the data minding and all 776 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So I've been trying to kind 777 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: of skip through different genres and topics, trying to get 778 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: some different different reads. That sounds like a very interesting book, 779 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: also sounds semi frightening a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, 780 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: once you realize how much you know data people have 781 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: on you. It's definitely a different, different era that we're 782 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: living in. But times change, so you gotta have the 783 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: knowledge to be equipped to deal with it. When you 784 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, what's the first thing that happens? 785 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: Who first thing that happens. I get a bottle of water. 786 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Get a bottle of water, and then I just you know, 787 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: sit there for a little bit center myself. You know, 788 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: sometimes you have that fog of sleep that you have 789 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: to get through for you know, the first ten to 790 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or the first hour you being awake. So 791 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: I try to get that off just about being a 792 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: little bit more mindful, center in myself a little bit. 793 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: The lights go out, your head hits a pillow, how 794 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: long until you actually fall asleep? So I have a 795 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: whooped little fitness band that does sleep tracking, so it 796 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: actually tells me my latency, which is how long it 797 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: takes me to go to sleep. Usually it's between like 798 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: probably five and ten minutes, which is great for me. 799 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: That means like, I go to bed at nine forty 800 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: five of them down by a round nine fifty five ten. 801 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you have thought swirling in your head, 802 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: play you might have messed up something you might have 803 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: wanted to do better, So it takes you a little 804 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: bit longer, but hopefully five to ten. An artist that 805 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: gets you excited. So my favorite artist is Drake. I 806 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: feel like Drake has music for every single different situation 807 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: that you're in life or whether you're trying to chill out. 808 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, his last album, honestly, never mind, it's a 809 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: perfect album, just let run all the way through. If 810 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: you want something to get you hyped up, he's got 811 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: tracks for that. So it's the fact that he makes 812 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: music for literally every single different situation that you're going 813 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: to be in. You can make an entire playlist and 814 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: not have to deviate at all. So I'd say that's 815 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: the guy that gets me hyped up but also gives 816 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: me all the different vibes that I need. Tell me 817 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: about a Texans teammate who gets you amped up and 818 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: hype gotta be gotta be Damian Pierce for sure. He's 819 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: one of these guys where joking guy, lighthearted, all that, 820 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: but when you see him on the field, it just 821 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: turns into an absolute dog. You see the way he 822 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: cuts with violence, the way he finishes his runs, and 823 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: just how it hyped. Everybody is around him for him, 824 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: just because they know how genuine of a guy he 825 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: is and how hard he works. Did you know about 826 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: him before the draft? I mean, had you seen his Florida? Yeah? 827 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: So the one clip that I'm sure everyone had seen 828 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: was the one where his helmet came off and he 829 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: kept running. And I don't know why they didn't give 830 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: him a touchdown on that, but I think that just 831 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: in capsulists exactly who he is as a runner and 832 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: as a person. He's not gonna take no for an answer, 833 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, on the field. So definitely saw him from that. 834 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: I knew he's gonna be a special guy coming in 835 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: with no consequences. Nobody's gonna judge. You get mad at 836 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: you for eating this, But you can make anything you want, 837 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: eat anything you want. What's the meal? The perfect meal 838 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have? Perfect meal? I like salmon a lot. 839 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: My dad cooked a lot of salmon while I was 840 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: growing up, So probably salmon with a nice glaze on it. 841 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: I'd probably add on to that like mac and cheese 842 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: is like the car, and then I finish with probably 843 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: broccoli or like spinach. So I actually kind of got 844 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: tricked into liking spinach by um is good. It is good. 845 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: It is good. It is good. It's a bad rapp 846 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: But it was pop Eye of the Sailorman that got 847 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: me kind of hooked on it because I'm like, all right, 848 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: like this dude's turning into a mister buff the forearms. Yeah, 849 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I'm like, all right, I don't want 850 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: to be that when I grow up. So I think 851 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: my dad kind of programmed that into me a little 852 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: bit when I was young, and I'm thankful for it 853 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: because I like spinach. No dessert sweets guy, No, well, 854 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: I try not to be a sweets guy, just because 855 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: like when I get it in the house, I kind 856 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: of just completely demolish it, and I'm like, all right, 857 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: at least I don't have to have it later. I'd 858 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: probably pick chocolate tip cookies, but like not like a 859 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: hard cookie, more of like a you know, soft, gooey cookie. 860 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of like the really crunchy ones 861 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: only weirdos are. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't 862 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: really like that people that have that in their house. 863 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of a red flag. On that note, we're 864 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna wrap this up. Thomas book are great to talk with. 865 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: You really appreciate the time. This has been a drews 866 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: doesn't thank you appreciate it. Drew Doherty with Thomas Booker, 867 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: Stanford defensive lineman, Texans defensive life. I mean playing tomorrow 868 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: night against the La Rams on the road nine o'clock 869 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: kick live right here and on ABC thirteen. Hey, the 870 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: preseason finale is just a week away Thursday night against 871 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers August twenty fifth. It'll 872 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: be live here as well. Some tickets remain at Houston 873 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: Texans dot com and the Texans App. Want to thank 874 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 1: everyone for listening tonight. Have a great evening, looking forward 875 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: to tomorrow. Go Texans,