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Speaker 1: You are listening to Falcon's audible podcasts presented by AT

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Speaker 1: and T. I am Matt Tebeek joining with the Beat

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Speaker 1: writer Will McFadden at Atlanta falcons dot com. Will what

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Speaker 1: is up? What's up? Matt? How you doing? Happy to

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Speaker 1: be here? As always? I am doing just dapper, so Will,

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Speaker 1: Right off the bat, Let's just talk about what we

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Speaker 1: saw on Thursday night. Let's talk about the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame game up in Canton. We set it up last

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Speaker 1: week and all the hoopla surrounding Tony Tony Gonzalez. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the actual game and what we saw and

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Speaker 1: some of the standout performances, things that we're concerning, things

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Speaker 1: that we're kind of, you know, positive as much as

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Speaker 1: they can be with the first preseason game, Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we knew going into this game

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Speaker 1: that it was going to be a lot of the

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Speaker 1: young guys playing, and that's exactly what we saw. And

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Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of positives to take away.

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Speaker 1: I think guys like John Kaminski, Chris Lynstrom, you saw

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Speaker 1: really what you wanted to see out of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Benkert obviously looked really, really good, out there. He

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Speaker 1: got the toe injury, where we'll see what happens with that,

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Speaker 1: But that was encouraging. And then there was some mistakes,

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Speaker 1: which you would expect in the very first NFL game

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Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys are playing. You had

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Speaker 1: two dropped punts, that's not ideal. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: the offense never really found a rhythm outside of a

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Speaker 1: couple of good drives that ben Kurt led, so plenty

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Speaker 1: of stuff to work on, I would say, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is more about players than the outcome, and I

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Speaker 1: think we saw some really encouraging things from a few

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Speaker 1: players that we've been wanting to keep an eye on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we said last week too. The in fans get caught up,

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Speaker 1: you know, I get I got a bunch of emails saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I wish we won the game. And we'll get back

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Speaker 1: to the Kurt Benkert story in a minute, but this

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Speaker 1: is really all about evaluations the coaches and we you know,

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Speaker 1: we won't go back into that again, but it's about

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Speaker 1: looking at one on one battles. It's about situational football.

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Speaker 1: It's about seeing how guys react in game moments. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, you had you know, it

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Speaker 1: was a perfect scenario at the end to see how

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Speaker 1: the defense would react with the game on the line,

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Speaker 1: even the offense at the end, even though Shab had

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Speaker 1: to come back in Matt Shab, it was a chance

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Speaker 1: to run the two minute offense. So that's what the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff is looking for. You mentioned Kurt Banker, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Chris Lindstrom. The one guy that we talked about

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Speaker 1: heading into the game is one guy I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about a little bit here is running back Brian Hill.

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Speaker 1: All camp long, he has looked like a different guy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he has looked faster, he has looked he you know,

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn talked about how much he's worked at catching

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Speaker 1: He had that one yard touchdown catch. So he had

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Speaker 1: a one yard touch Yeah, it was great, and so

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Speaker 1: he even said that's the one thing, that one club

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Speaker 1: he has worked hard at that. It's a great story.

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Speaker 1: It's early. You don't want to crown him. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into the battles here a little bit. Some

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Speaker 1: that really stood out to me. He had the nice run.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a twenty one yard game. He

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Speaker 1: really what you wanted to see from him, because we've

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Speaker 1: guy who has really flashed and looks like a different guy.

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Speaker 1: Your spot on when you say that, he's just carrying

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Speaker 1: himself a little bit differently than he did as as

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Speaker 1: And dan Quinn has said several times now this preseason

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Speaker 1: that the way he's looking at this running back group,

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Speaker 1: how I think he's the key to this offense this

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Speaker 1: want to make that really clear. But back to Brian Hill.

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Speaker 1: My ears perked up when dan Quinn said that. When

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Speaker 1: And if I'm Brian Hill, if I'm Edo Smith, if

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Speaker 1: news for Hill. And you know, back to that one

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Speaker 1: at it as we're talking about a visceral reaction to

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Speaker 1: showed enough he had that gear right around the line

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Speaker 1: he still out ran him to the edge, and then

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Speaker 1: he showed a little power at the end. This is

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Speaker 1: the play where Brian Hill was called for the penalty.

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Speaker 1: this play was, it's when he lowered his head on

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Speaker 1: the safety. He got called for the foul, but it

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Speaker 1: would be a great run back to you, Matt, Yeah no.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, the safety if you look him,

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Speaker 1: he was very demonstrative with his head. He looked like

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Speaker 1: bouncing off a hill. You know, Hill said after the game,

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Speaker 1: scrimmage practice a little excited, Yeah, but no, I just

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Speaker 1: to take anything away from Edo Smith, not to take

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Speaker 1: anything away. Running back spot is a place to watch,

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Speaker 1: and I think Ben Kurt's performance showed us maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of juice to this backup quarterback competition.

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Speaker 1: what's going on there with that. But but that sparked

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? Well, I'll tell you what it

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Speaker 1: amazes me, will about you know, the quarterback situation gets

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Speaker 1: everybody excited, even in the draft. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: especially in the draft. Here we have a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, who is the franchise leader in probably every

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Speaker 1: single statistical category at this point. Yes he is. He

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Speaker 1: and he arguably is playing at the peak of his game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even though last year was rough, there were

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Speaker 1: that he's still threw thirty five touchdown passes and nine picks.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was an amazing year, and it

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Speaker 1: that they went seven to nine. But back to Benker. Yes,

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Speaker 1: smart kid, and he played really well. His numbers should

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Speaker 1: he ended up being what it was, nineteen to thirty four,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm getting emails saying jobs gotta go. You know,

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Speaker 1: He is like having another coach on the sideline. He

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Speaker 1: They know what they're getting in him when he goes

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Speaker 1: It's not about what Matt shop can or can't do

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Speaker 1: played fifteen years. Will, Yeah, he knows I mean, if

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Speaker 1: You don't want the guy who you drafted in the

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Speaker 1: not only a great security blanket because of his experience,

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Speaker 1: because he knows what not to do and what to

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Speaker 1: Shob's not leading this team to the postseason like Matt.

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Speaker 1: If Matt Ryan goes down, that's tough for the Falcons regardless.

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Speaker 1: So that comes to my last point here. Shob has

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Speaker 1: God love him, He's got zero production in an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: so me, but he was the one guy was most

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Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing. I was just excited about the

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Speaker 1: potential in him because of his size, because of his reach,

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Speaker 1: because of what he had done at Colorado. I was

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Speaker 1: really excited to see him. I hate the comparison, but

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Speaker 1: he kind of, you know, was built like because dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn came from Seattle, I could think it was Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: that taller cornerback with speed in closing speed. I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he is one that we need to see

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Speaker 1: and we will assume will again. You know, so much

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Speaker 1: of people want to point to different areas. That team

439
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Speaker 1: was just decimated last year with injuries, and as we

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Speaker 1: all know, we're not going to rehash all of that.

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Speaker 1: But I think the front you know, with Tyler Davidson

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Speaker 1: was Rashid Hagman, with Alan Bailey in the mix. Now

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Speaker 1: with greedy John Kaminski, I mean he he had a

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Speaker 1: really nice game. Who's going to tea up for that,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Grady Jarrett in indeedrins and apt back

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Speaker 1: there and now based on what Kaminski did. Again, you

447
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Speaker 1: don't want to just hype this or or over blow

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Speaker 1: these guys, but he had a nice first game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a really good example and bad that game,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, it was a good game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a good example of what you were talking about earlier,

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Speaker 1: where it's about the players and putting them in specific

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Speaker 1: situations to see if they can succeed. And Coach Quinn

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Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier today seeing John Kaminski run down the

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Speaker 1: field on punk coverage and be the first guy to

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Speaker 1: get the ball recover that fumble. John Kaminski's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty pounds. You don't see guys the Usually the

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Speaker 1: guys on special teams are going to be tight ends, fullbacks, linebackers,

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Speaker 1: guys who are you know, maybe two fifty two forty

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Speaker 1: but can move going down there. That's a two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty pound guy being the first guy down there

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Speaker 1: really on punk coverage to recover a fumble. That's what

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Speaker 1: you look for in preseason games is guys who take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the situation that they're in, make the most

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Speaker 1: of it and make impact plays on top of just

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Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. So he not only

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Speaker 1: did that on the punk coverage, but then he got

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Speaker 1: a sack in the game. He was really kind of

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Speaker 1: destructive in the middle of the defensive line. But what

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Speaker 1: I think really makes but yeah, he had a nice game,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's first preseason game, Madam, don't come up,

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Speaker 1: um what what really makes him intriguing? I think, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen this from Dan Quinn a few times, he

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Speaker 1: really likes guys who can play outside and inside. Guys

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Speaker 1: who were Yes, guys who can play on the outside

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Speaker 1: in maybe your base package are a little bit bigger

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Speaker 1: against the run inside. I think yes, I think Jack

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Speaker 1: Crawford specifically, somebody who might be you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: need Vickers out there. Your pass rush specialists on base downs.

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Speaker 1: They've had Brooks reading Derek Shelby in the past kind

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Speaker 1: of handle those end roles. John Kominsky is a guy

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Speaker 1: that could do that. You could slide him out to

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Speaker 1: end and then bring him on the inside in pass

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Speaker 1: rushing situations. Well, we're talking an awful lot about John Commisky,

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Speaker 1: but I'll say this when you take me up, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we're talking, but I'll say the spect rookies, you have

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Speaker 1: to make an impression every time you're on the field.

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Speaker 1: But the best way to make a team is through

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Speaker 1: special teams, because chances are, if you're not a top

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Speaker 1: a first round pick or even a second round pick,

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Speaker 1: you're the only way you're going to see the field

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Speaker 1: is on special teams in a lot of cases, especially

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Speaker 1: when you have a team like this team that's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of veteran guys, a lot of core guys.

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Speaker 1: And so Kamensky, though it in spots, played well. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's that extra preseason game against a lot of third

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Speaker 1: and four stringers. I want to keep it in perspective.

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Speaker 1: But we've got four more games and it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: But early on in camp, even before the Falcons even

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Speaker 1: played a game, dan Quinn said, hey, he's got a chance.

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Speaker 1: We're not holding back anything on John Kominsky. There there

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Speaker 1: are no limitations with him, and he is saying and

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Speaker 1: doing all the right things. And so for a kid

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Speaker 1: who was drafted out of the University of Charleston, a

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Speaker 1: Division two school, it's a great story so far. Now

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Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about John we are. Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: What else you want to see from we said Isaiah Oliver.

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Speaker 1: We want to see if Kamensky can play again. We

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Speaker 1: know we're going to see limited reps with some of

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Speaker 1: the starters. Who else to you stands out? I want

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Speaker 1: to see the running backs. I want to see Quadri

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Speaker 1: Allison play better. I want to see the return game.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Marcus Whoa. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're going to see Marcus Green, but I want to

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Speaker 1: see something out of the return game. I want to

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Speaker 1: if if the starters are get one series, I want

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Speaker 1: to see how they run the ball. That's what I

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Speaker 1: want to see. Is I want to see, regardless of

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Speaker 1: Davante Freeman being in there or not, if if the

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Speaker 1: starting offensive line minus we assume James Carpenter and Caleman Garry.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if he would start at this point or not,

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Speaker 1: but I want to see how they handle running the football,

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Speaker 1: especially with Chris Lynstrom plugged into what would be the

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Speaker 1: starting offensive line. If they're out there for the first series,

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Speaker 1: it would be fantastic to see a ten play drive

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Speaker 1: with seven or eight first towns. Seven of those plays

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Speaker 1: run plays. That would be fantastic. Yes, that that would

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Speaker 1: be I think Mike Malarkey's a very underrated addition this

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Speaker 1: offseason because he has such a knowledge of really how

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Speaker 1: to run the ball effectively. So the combination of both

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Speaker 1: he and Ercutter and then Chris Morgan the offensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: that that's what I want to see from the starters.

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Speaker 1: Outside of those guys kind of the reserve players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Miller is a guy who didn't have a great game,

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Speaker 1: dropped an interception. Uh, they picked on him a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but he's stood out so good so much in camp

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Speaker 1: that I don't think that's a trend that's going to

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Speaker 1: carry on. So I'm I'm looking for a bit of

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Speaker 1: a bounce back game from him. Um. And then a

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Speaker 1: guy who we haven't talked about at all, but I

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Speaker 1: saw Pro Football Focus, you know, take take whatever they

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Speaker 1: do with um, whether whether or not us and we

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Speaker 1: probably won't, but um, whether or not, you you know,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the Pro Football Focus grades and put a

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Speaker 1: lot of stock into them. They did have rookie linebacker

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Speaker 1: del Shan Phillips as the top graded player, and he

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Speaker 1: did have a good game. Um. I've been watching him, yes,

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Speaker 1: against the team that they played on Thursday. Really, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about his grades in that game. Dude, what

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Speaker 1: has this whole podcast been about except to talk about

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Speaker 1: the preseason game. I have one thing to talk about.

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Speaker 1: He had a good game. I'm introducing what was his

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Speaker 1: stat line he had? Because if we're gonna talk about him,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about Jermaine Grace then because he

555
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Speaker 1: was a tackle for a loss of fumble recovery and

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Speaker 1: three tackles. That's not bad for a backup. And then

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Speaker 1: rookie tackleski led everybody and Justin Zimmer had five tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A Louikan looked fantastic when he was on the field,

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Speaker 1: by the way, but there's my guy, Jermaine Grace. Four tackles,

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Speaker 1: half sack. Come on. Yeah, But Matt against the Broncos. Really,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna talk about stats against

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Speaker 1: You got me really excited a second ago because you

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Speaker 1: brought up Mike Malarkey. I think, who doople have more,

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Speaker 1: Matt Shop or Mike Malarkey. Definitely Malarkey. Um, but I

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Speaker 1: will say this, he is definitely gonna have an influence

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Speaker 1: things and this offense. As everyone knows, he was the

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Speaker 1: Falcons offensive coordinator from two thousand and eight to two eleven.

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Speaker 1: Coming back, but this stat I love. The Falcons rushed

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Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty two point five yards per

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Speaker 1: game in two thousand and eight with Malarkey when they

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Speaker 1: had a rookie quarterback in Michael Turner. You said a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and Michael Turner. Yes, I know Michael Turner

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Speaker 1: was phenomenal, but still they ran the football and everyone

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Speaker 1: is waiting to see what the offense is going to

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Speaker 1: look like with Cutter. We all know what Tampa Bay's

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Speaker 1: offense looked like last year. Is the passing game, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was dynamic. I think there were number one in

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Speaker 1: the league in yards per passing yards per game last

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Speaker 1: They were very good. Yes, and so it's going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see Cutter's influence the retooled offensive line,

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Speaker 1: DeVante Freeman back. Um, yeah, that's gonna be pretty exciting.

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to see that on Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too. Um, if that happens on the opening drive,

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Speaker 1: you and I were probably be sitting here high five

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Speaker 1: in each other, going Okay, that's something to be excited about. Um.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about a couple guys. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows if we'll talk about Jermaine Grace and these

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Speaker 1: other guys come September eighth, Week one in Minneapolis against

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, but probably not, probably not, but they are.

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Speaker 1: You know, the things you want to look at right

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Speaker 1: now is depth, and um, I get quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of questions about like Duke Riley and you know where

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Speaker 1: he is and what kind of year and what kind

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Speaker 1: of camp he's having, and um, you know, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how these next four preseason

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Speaker 1: games shake out when it comes to certain positions and

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Speaker 1: just the depth you bring up, Jordan Miller, Yeah, de

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Speaker 1: Bendel Sheffield. I'm excited to see those rookies a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Um yeah yeah. Um, So Thursday night, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't been to Atlanta Falcons dot com yet, will

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Speaker 1: you published the how to watch? Uh, the game is

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Speaker 1: gonna what it kicks off? What seven thirty? Last week

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Speaker 1: it was eight o'clock ye, um, hard Rock Stadium. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we have a lot more to talk about when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the starters. Hopefully we have a lot more

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Speaker 1: to talk about when it comes to Isaiah Oliver. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we have a lot more to talk about when it

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Speaker 1: comes to that running game. Um. But those are the

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Speaker 1: things that if I'm a Falcons fan, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be locked in on. And hopefully Matt Shop completes more

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Speaker 1: than four passes when he's in Um, they have three

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Speaker 1: mats at the quarterback position. Now, we haven't even mentioned

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Speaker 1: Matt Simms. Yeah, let's let's hope we don't have to. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll probably talk a lot about him on Thursday because

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Speaker 1: he will play the entire second half, but we will

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Speaker 1: have a live blog during the game on Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: dot com Thursday night. You know, I'm gonna just say

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Speaker 1: right now that Matt Show is going to throw for

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Speaker 1: more than ten yards. I'm gonna go, Wow, that's a

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Speaker 1: bold prediction and not have a pick this week. Let's

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Speaker 1: hope it happens. All right, man, this was fun. See

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Speaker 1: you again next week, same time, same place. Let's do

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Speaker 1: it all right, see you