WEBVTT - Spicy Hot Takes Pt. 2

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast

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<v Speaker 3>Hot Takes, Hot Takes, Get you Hot Takes. It's Hot Takes, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to start off this round of hot Takes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're joined by Telly again.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Tech, you're rid of me?

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<v Speaker 4>Like Herb's back back back again.

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<v Speaker 2>Artie's number one defense lawyer, Alexa has given us a

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<v Speaker 2>voice message, and I would like to start off this

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Takes by.

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<v Speaker 4>Listening to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Jenna and Kevin, it's Alexa, your local Arty defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 5>here to clock in for my shift at the Hot

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<v Speaker 5>Take Factory. And to nobody's surprise, my hot take that

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<v Speaker 5>I come armed with is that Artie was not as

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<v Speaker 5>bad as some fans, including you, Kevin, make him out

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<v Speaker 5>to be. Okay, I said my piece a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>on your podcast last year when I was a guest.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're circling back, okay, because I think it needs

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<v Speaker 5>another I think we need another go at it. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that, like every other boy on this show, already

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<v Speaker 5>had his questionable moments. I'm not excusing that specifically. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what he said in Lights Out Powered Madonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but I do think that there were other characters

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<v Speaker 5>on the show cough cough Finn who said equally bad,

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<v Speaker 5>if not worse things, just as often as already did.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just think that Finn was given the proper

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<v Speaker 5>screen time where we've got to see him kind of

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<v Speaker 5>close the loop on that, we got to see him apologize,

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<v Speaker 5>we got to see him learn from his mistakes, where

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<v Speaker 5>often for ARTI it was just kind of like brushed

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<v Speaker 5>under the rug, like shown as a one off comment

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<v Speaker 5>that he wasn't sorry for, didn't learn his lesson from,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera. But I think that with the ample screen

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<v Speaker 5>time that he could have had, we could have seen

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<v Speaker 5>another side of Artie and Kevin Kevin McHale. On the

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<v Speaker 5>last Hot Takes episode, what really got my blood boiling, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>was when you were saying that you think that Artie would,

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<v Speaker 5>if he was a live boy in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 5>would be participating in in cell behavior and listening to

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<v Speaker 5>podcasts with redacted naves that I will not say as

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<v Speaker 5>so as to not draw more attention to them, but

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<v Speaker 5>that just really appalled me because I think that if

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<v Speaker 5>we're considering Arty as upon in today's political climate. We

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<v Speaker 5>have to remember that he is part of a marginalized community. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>he is affected by this legislation that is being passed

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<v Speaker 5>and or on the chopping block that was passed forty

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<v Speaker 5>years ago. Right, Section five oh four is on the

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<v Speaker 5>table once again to be repealed in some states, and

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<v Speaker 5>that would essentially strip Artie's ability to go to school

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<v Speaker 5>with his able bodied friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't think that ARTI is supporting those kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of political agendas, right just because he may. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>the best boyfriend when he was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Are we following?

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<v Speaker 5>Are we following? Okay, I just wanted to say that I,

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<v Speaker 5>as the number one arety defender, maybe even the number

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<v Speaker 5>one already fin in the world. Really don't agree with that,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm open to further discussion, but I just really

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to put that out there and get that off

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<v Speaker 5>my chest.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Oh the defense rest Oh my god, keep

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<v Speaker 4>her on retainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I mean yeah, the Jerry's back and you win, right, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>that was really beautiful receipts Section five oh four.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're right he was. He was shitty when he

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<v Speaker 4>was sixteen, we all are. I think Alexa brings up

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<v Speaker 4>a good point screen with the screen time and the character, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of yeah, okay, so Finn's a lead, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so Finn's gonna get a certain amount of time, and

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<v Speaker 4>Arty is a supporting character. But also I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's something about Artie is also like a bit more

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<v Speaker 4>of like, I don't want to say it, like there's

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<v Speaker 4>a gimmick there, but I think they like there's a

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<v Speaker 4>there's a there's a deliberate choice to kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>up end stereotypes when it comes to Artie, right, because

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<v Speaker 4>he's this nerdy, disabled person, so you think that he's,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know, take whatever stereotypes you think

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be, but really it turns out that he's

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<v Speaker 4>this very self assured, engaging kind of person, right. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that is in the early years, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's what was being played with with Artie was

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<v Speaker 4>that like, oh, he is actually kind of a hot

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<v Speaker 4>shot and he so so I can see where that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe gets a little muddled and where he maybe gets

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<v Speaker 4>a bad rap because he like was doing shitty things.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also think it was like in exploration of

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<v Speaker 4>being like of kind of breaking the mold of like

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<v Speaker 4>what a disabled nerdy character it must be on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, justice for Artie. I mean Ryan always hated

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<v Speaker 2>the nerdy thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that, you know, and that that's

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<v Speaker 4>and that's another thing you kind of like realize in life,

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<v Speaker 4>is that like nerds aren't really nerds anyway, Like there's

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<v Speaker 4>no such like it's you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, no maybe in school, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, definitely like not the worst, not the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>No, go off, Alexa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go off again, Alexa. That was beautiful, Thank you, Alexa.

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<v Speaker 2>Pe Hudson's Miss July had no business teaching at Nihada.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not pushy. She was a bully.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, she was a bit she was a bit bullyish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she was a bit bullish. I mean they tried to

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<v Speaker 3>like redeemer in the in the second half of her arc,

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<v Speaker 3>which I do think it worked, but because it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to hate her, like she's so good, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that she was and we I think we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this, like there are theater teachers like that in

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<v Speaker 3>real life, like not that they're not bullies, but like

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<v Speaker 3>they are very tough.

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<v Speaker 4>What's her backstory? Was she like a performer that didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she went off on somebody because they had their

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone, and she like her career.

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny, that's very I feel like that. Yes, definitely,

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<v Speaker 4>which is so funny because like you look at Patti

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<v Speaker 4>Lapo and it's like that only ever made her more loved.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, this is nice. Actually this isn't even like I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't consider it's a hot But Lauren was Puck's best relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>She challenged him and made him better.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I always love those two together. Yeah. We

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<v Speaker 4>should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen Shelby and April sing a number together.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, so yeah, I mean that would have been freakingda

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how happened. I don't either. It was

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<v Speaker 4>so funny too at the time because I was I'm

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<v Speaker 4>such a theater kid, and it's like being there on

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<v Speaker 4>the set and it's like one week it's Kristin Chenowith

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<v Speaker 4>and the next week it's at and then and it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>can we all just can we just all do one together.

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<v Speaker 3>And everybody together?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>A video village, you guys tell us stories about can you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like get off on stage in perform for us altogether.

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<v Speaker 4>That would have been such a dream. But there were

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<v Speaker 4>both such I mean real standout guest stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely, camera totally.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean in the most episodes of any guest star uncle.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she had like really episodes. Yeah, of the

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<v Speaker 4>special guest stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun fact, I will say the story of the baby

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<v Speaker 3>storyline went on a little too long for my liking.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, this is one Cheerios should have gone bring

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<v Speaker 3>it on style episode for one of their competitions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that would have been so cool, like a bottle

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<v Speaker 4>epic or not a bottle episode, but like a stand

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of episode even like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the spin off right there, that's your back door pilot.

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<v Speaker 4>That is great, that's you who's going to type the scene?

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<v Speaker 4>It could still happen, I know, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Going along with that, somebody says that Sue Silvester was

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<v Speaker 3>a better teacher and at times a better person than

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<v Speaker 3>will she start.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of this that I love, all the

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<v Speaker 2>trans representation, but Coach Beast in season six felt forced them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there was that to me too. We need that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, especially when and you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>there's no one trans experience. There's no one experience in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. So but especially because there was so much

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<v Speaker 4>we'd already spent time discussing beasts, beasts in her relationship

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<v Speaker 4>to her femininity and how she didn't feel and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, maybe it is linked, but for some it

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<v Speaker 4>did seem a little bit. It did seem a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit out of out of left field. But then again,

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<v Speaker 4>like who knows, you know, people are who they are

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<v Speaker 4>and they have their struggles until until they write what

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<v Speaker 4>they need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, Michael Rachel did not need to throw the

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<v Speaker 2>temp tantrum when Santana got understudy. I'm glad you did

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<v Speaker 2>because I love those I think that I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have. I would have been like, give me my

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<v Speaker 2>own thing, Well, you gotta stuff on my toes?

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<v Speaker 4>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, another one blam should have been explored. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. Sam was buying Quinn's a lesbian.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I love where the fandom has taken this whole,

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<v Speaker 4>Quinn Quinn's queerness thing.

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<v Speaker 2>My hot take is that Jake's best song was Unchained Melody.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to it. I mean it incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Mercedes singing Try Little Tenderness is not talked about enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I think singing anything is not talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why you get we take her for granted

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<v Speaker 2>exactly because there's so many numbers, so many solos that

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<v Speaker 2>she has that you can put her in any situation,

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<v Speaker 2>any genre of music, and then it's just really so

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<v Speaker 2>good that we're used to it, especially now we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the back half of five, where like she's just getting

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<v Speaker 2>solos left and right, and like they're always good, but

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<v Speaker 2>because there's so many of them, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Hard for them to stand out. They sort of run together.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's sort of fun. I mean another example of

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<v Speaker 4>art imitating life right where that's sort of like was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of part of Mercedes storyline is that she

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of sidelined and taking advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Yes, this is a hot take, The episode with

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<v Speaker 3>Roots before Branches should have been this yerarious finale.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh damn, is that the the end of three?

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<v Speaker 4>Three? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that would have been a crazy series finale

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been an iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine that I ever saw Glee? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it would have come back, we would have had a reboot.

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<v Speaker 4>By now.

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<v Speaker 2>My hot take is that season four is my fabe

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<v Speaker 2>season hot take. That's a I mean, i'd like there's

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<v Speaker 2>some good furs in that. Now there is that four.

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<v Speaker 2>We were pleasantly surprised by four. Yes, okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Glee hot take. Mister Shoe really is not

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<v Speaker 1>that like cringey or like weird. And sure, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his songs and a lot of his actions and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like some of his stuff is like questionable now

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<v Speaker 1>in the year twenty twenty five, but I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has good intentions. And maybe that's just me being in

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<v Speaker 1>love with Matthew Morrison. But you know what, whatever, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, it's fine. But that's like everything on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays is just like mister Shee needs to go to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Shoe being super uncomfortable. I fully disagree, and I

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<v Speaker 1>support mister Shoe and all of his decisions.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of sorry, I don't disagree with that, no, And

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<v Speaker 7>it's really it's it's consistency of character too, because like

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<v Speaker 7>Shoe is the kind of person that would be like I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna do the throng song for all your I guess

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<v Speaker 4>he does it for someone else, but you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>I think like he I think he's so excited about

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<v Speaker 4>what he's doing that like he's going to try to

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<v Speaker 4>relate to these kids no matter what. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's also still playing out a bit of his

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<v Speaker 4>own high school thing, so I think he feels in

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<v Speaker 4>touch with that. But yeah, I think that there's always

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<v Speaker 4>that's the thing about mister Schuster, always the best of intentions.

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<v Speaker 4>I think like it becomes a plot point when he

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<v Speaker 4>debated a good path, you know, true, so it's like

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<v Speaker 4>there is never anything bad. I think it just comes

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<v Speaker 4>from like a yeah, just like an over excited attempt

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<v Speaker 4>to relate to these.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids, attempt being the key word. Let's do another one.

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<v Speaker 6>My ottest take is that Will and Emma were totally

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<v Speaker 6>robbed Engley, And by that I mean that we barely

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<v Speaker 6>got to see any of them and they are like

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<v Speaker 6>the best characters in the whole show, like as a couple,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm really sad about that, like the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>in season five they ended up becoming pregnant and then

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<v Speaker 6>we never saw her again. I was like, what is

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<v Speaker 6>up with that? It would have been so interesting to

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<v Speaker 6>see like a storyline with Emma being pregnant and like

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<v Speaker 6>battling with OCD at the same time, that would have

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<v Speaker 6>been really interesting. I just think they're amazing and they

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<v Speaker 6>barely got any screen time at all. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 6>my take.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll always take more Gama.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would love to see that, though the

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy storyline would have been great.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, you know, I think the balance of

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<v Speaker 4>Glee was at the beginning was between you know, mister

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<v Speaker 4>Schuster's personal life and then the school life of the

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<v Speaker 4>Glee quietly Glee Club. And it's just by season five

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<v Speaker 4>and had splintered into so many new environments and things,

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<v Speaker 4>and people had gone to so many levels that I

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<v Speaker 4>think like finding space for their domestic life in the

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<v Speaker 4>world of new kids at the school. We're now on Broadway,

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<v Speaker 4>we're now at Niata, we're now in film school. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was just too much on the plate,

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<v Speaker 4>and it seems like maybe it was the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 4>to leave, because it's kind of feels like a nice

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<v Speaker 4>bo right, Like you can read it in that way.

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<v Speaker 4>They finally got together and they're going to have their

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<v Speaker 4>happy life together, and we can let them ride off

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<v Speaker 4>into the sunset and show up, you know, when they

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<v Speaker 4>need to show up. Rather than because you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think exploring the focus of exploring. Now these young adults

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<v Speaker 4>are in the real world, Like I think that's where

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<v Speaker 4>the focus wanted to be. So these domestic storylines back

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<v Speaker 4>at home just didn't really match up.

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember like Will and Ms season one were

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<v Speaker 2>just oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Well and Cherry and all the terry of it all

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<v Speaker 4>too is like so integral to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was so good.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I think it just outgrew that in a

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<v Speaker 4>way because the kid Yeah, a lot of ways, the

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<v Speaker 4>kids came up, right, they all everyone really stepped up

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<v Speaker 4>and became such real rat well rounded characters that it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, well we got to give we got to

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<v Speaker 4>give screen time to all of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, for sure, Lly, thanks for joining us on AH,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a pleasure to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm so happy to be here and so happy

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are carrying the torch for greed, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>on on the podcast and always happy to join.

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<v Speaker 3>You, always will always have you Lly, Love you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and thank you guys for writing in and sharing your

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<v Speaker 3>hot takes. Some of us they are just that so

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