Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast
Speaker 3: Hot Takes, Hot Takes, Get you Hot Takes. It's Hot Takes, guys.
Speaker 2: I would like to start off this round of hot Takes,
Speaker 2: and we're joined by Telly again.
Speaker 3: Hello, Tech, you're rid of me?
Speaker 4: Like Herb's back back back again.
Speaker 2: Artie's number one defense lawyer, Alexa has given us a
Speaker 2: voice message, and I would like to start off this
Speaker 2: Hot Takes by.
Speaker 4: Listening to that.
Speaker 5: Hi, Jenna and Kevin, it's Alexa, your local Arty defense attorney,
Speaker 5: here to clock in for my shift at the Hot
Speaker 5: Take Factory. And to nobody's surprise, my hot take that
Speaker 5: I come armed with is that Artie was not as
Speaker 5: bad as some fans, including you, Kevin, make him out
Speaker 5: to be. Okay, I said my piece a little bit
Speaker 5: on your podcast last year when I was a guest.
Speaker 5: But we're circling back, okay, because I think it needs
Speaker 5: another I think we need another go at it. I
Speaker 5: think that, like every other boy on this show, already
Speaker 5: had his questionable moments. I'm not excusing that specifically. You
Speaker 5: know what he said in Lights Out Powered Madonna.
Speaker 6: Et cetera.
Speaker 5: Okay, but I do think that there were other characters
Speaker 5: on the show cough cough Finn who said equally bad,
Speaker 5: if not worse things, just as often as already did.
Speaker 5: But I just think that Finn was given the proper
Speaker 5: screen time where we've got to see him kind of
Speaker 5: close the loop on that, we got to see him apologize,
Speaker 5: we got to see him learn from his mistakes, where
Speaker 5: often for ARTI it was just kind of like brushed
Speaker 5: under the rug, like shown as a one off comment
Speaker 5: that he wasn't sorry for, didn't learn his lesson from,
Speaker 5: et cetera. But I think that with the ample screen
Speaker 5: time that he could have had, we could have seen
Speaker 5: another side of Artie and Kevin Kevin McHale. On the
Speaker 5: last Hot Takes episode, what really got my blood boiling, okay,
Speaker 5: was when you were saying that you think that Artie would,
Speaker 5: if he was a live boy in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: would be participating in in cell behavior and listening to
Speaker 5: podcasts with redacted naves that I will not say as
Speaker 5: so as to not draw more attention to them, but
Speaker 5: that just really appalled me because I think that if
Speaker 5: we're considering Arty as upon in today's political climate. We
Speaker 5: have to remember that he is part of a marginalized community. Okay,
Speaker 5: he is affected by this legislation that is being passed
Speaker 5: and or on the chopping block that was passed forty
Speaker 5: years ago. Right, Section five oh four is on the
Speaker 5: table once again to be repealed in some states, and
Speaker 5: that would essentially strip Artie's ability to go to school
Speaker 5: with his able bodied friends.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So I don't think that ARTI is supporting those kinds
Speaker 5: of political agendas, right just because he may. He wasn't
Speaker 5: the best boyfriend when he was sixteen.
Speaker 6: Are we following?
Speaker 5: Are we following? Okay, I just wanted to say that I,
Speaker 5: as the number one arety defender, maybe even the number
Speaker 5: one already fin in the world. Really don't agree with that,
Speaker 5: and I'm open to further discussion, but I just really
Speaker 5: wanted to put that out there and get that off
Speaker 5: my chest.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Oh the defense rest Oh my god, keep
Speaker 4: her on retainer.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean yeah, the Jerry's back and you win, right, beautiful,
Speaker 2: that was really beautiful receipts Section five oh four.
Speaker 4: And you're right he was. He was shitty when he
Speaker 4: was sixteen, we all are. I think Alexa brings up
Speaker 4: a good point screen with the screen time and the character, right,
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of yeah, okay, so Finn's a lead, right,
Speaker 4: so Finn's gonna get a certain amount of time, and
Speaker 4: Arty is a supporting character. But also I think there's
Speaker 4: there's something about Artie is also like a bit more
Speaker 4: of like, I don't want to say it, like there's
Speaker 4: a gimmick there, but I think they like there's a
Speaker 4: there's a there's a deliberate choice to kind of like
Speaker 4: up end stereotypes when it comes to Artie, right, because
Speaker 4: he's this nerdy, disabled person, so you think that he's,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, take whatever stereotypes you think
Speaker 4: they're gonna be, but really it turns out that he's
Speaker 4: this very self assured, engaging kind of person, right. So
Speaker 4: I think that that is in the early years, I
Speaker 4: think that's what was being played with with Artie was
Speaker 4: that like, oh, he is actually kind of a hot
Speaker 4: shot and he so so I can see where that
Speaker 4: maybe gets a little muddled and where he maybe gets
Speaker 4: a bad rap because he like was doing shitty things.
Speaker 4: But I also think it was like in exploration of
Speaker 4: being like of kind of breaking the mold of like
Speaker 4: what a disabled nerdy character it must be on TV.
Speaker 2: That's right, justice for Artie. I mean Ryan always hated
Speaker 2: the nerdy thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that, you know, and that that's
Speaker 4: and that's another thing you kind of like realize in life,
Speaker 4: is that like nerds aren't really nerds anyway, Like there's
Speaker 4: no such like it's you.
Speaker 3: Know, no maybe in school, but yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely like not the worst, not the worst.
Speaker 3: No, go off, Alexa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go off again, Alexa. That was beautiful, Thank you, Alexa.
Speaker 2: Pe Hudson's Miss July had no business teaching at Nihada.
Speaker 2: She was not pushy. She was a bully.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, she was a bit she was a bit bullyish. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she was a bit bullish. I mean they tried to
Speaker 3: like redeemer in the in the second half of her arc,
Speaker 3: which I do think it worked, but because it's hard
Speaker 3: to hate her, like she's so good, but I do
Speaker 3: think that she was and we I think we've talked
Speaker 3: about this, like there are theater teachers like that in
Speaker 3: real life, like not that they're not bullies, but like
Speaker 3: they are very tough.
Speaker 4: What's her backstory? Was she like a performer that didn't.
Speaker 3: Yes, she went off on somebody because they had their
Speaker 3: cell phone, and she like her career.
Speaker 4: That's funny, that's very I feel like that. Yes, definitely,
Speaker 4: which is so funny because like you look at Patti
Speaker 4: Lapo and it's like that only ever made her more loved.
Speaker 3: Exactly, this is nice. Actually this isn't even like I
Speaker 3: wouldn't consider it's a hot But Lauren was Puck's best relationship.
Speaker 3: She challenged him and made him better.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I always love those two together. Yeah. We
Speaker 4: should have.
Speaker 2: Seen Shelby and April sing a number together.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so yeah, I mean that would have been freakingda
Speaker 4: I don't know how happened. I don't either. It was
Speaker 4: so funny too at the time because I was I'm
Speaker 4: such a theater kid, and it's like being there on
Speaker 4: the set and it's like one week it's Kristin Chenowith
Speaker 4: and the next week it's at and then and it's like,
Speaker 4: can we all just can we just all do one together.
Speaker 3: And everybody together?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 4: A video village, you guys tell us stories about can you.
Speaker 3: Just like get off on stage in perform for us altogether.
Speaker 4: That would have been such a dream. But there were
Speaker 4: both such I mean real standout guest stars.
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, camera totally.
Speaker 4: I mean in the most episodes of any guest star uncle.
Speaker 4: I think she had like really episodes. Yeah, of the
Speaker 4: special guest stars.
Speaker 3: Fun fact, I will say the story of the baby
Speaker 3: storyline went on a little too long for my liking.
Speaker 3: But okay, this is one Cheerios should have gone bring
Speaker 3: it on style episode for one of their competitions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been so cool, like a bottle
Speaker 4: epic or not a bottle episode, but like a stand
Speaker 4: a lot of episode even like, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the spin off right there, that's your back door pilot.
Speaker 4: That is great, that's you who's going to type the scene?
Speaker 4: It could still happen, I know, right.
Speaker 3: Going along with that, somebody says that Sue Silvester was
Speaker 3: a better teacher and at times a better person than
Speaker 3: will she start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of this that I love, all the
Speaker 2: trans representation, but Coach Beast in season six felt forced them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was that to me too. We need that,
Speaker 4: you know, especially when and you know, I think that
Speaker 4: there's no one trans experience. There's no one experience in
Speaker 4: the world. So but especially because there was so much
Speaker 4: we'd already spent time discussing beasts, beasts in her relationship
Speaker 4: to her femininity and how she didn't feel and I
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe it is linked, but for some it
Speaker 4: did seem a little bit. It did seem a little
Speaker 4: bit out of out of left field. But then again,
Speaker 4: like who knows, you know, people are who they are
Speaker 4: and they have their struggles until until they write what
Speaker 4: they need to do.
Speaker 2: So no, Michael Rachel did not need to throw the
Speaker 2: temp tantrum when Santana got understudy. I'm glad you did
Speaker 2: because I love those I think that I think I
Speaker 2: would have. I would have been like, give me my
Speaker 2: own thing, Well, you gotta stuff on my toes?
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 2: My god, another one blam should have been explored. I
Speaker 2: don't care. Sam was buying Quinn's a lesbian.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love where the fandom has taken this whole,
Speaker 4: Quinn Quinn's queerness thing.
Speaker 2: My hot take is that Jake's best song was Unchained Melody.
Speaker 2: I listened to it. I mean it incredible.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Mercedes singing Try Little Tenderness is not talked about enough.
Speaker 4: I guess I think singing anything is not talked about it.
Speaker 2: You know why you get we take her for granted
Speaker 2: exactly because there's so many numbers, so many solos that
Speaker 2: she has that you can put her in any situation,
Speaker 2: any genre of music, and then it's just really so
Speaker 2: good that we're used to it, especially now we're in
Speaker 2: the back half of five, where like she's just getting
Speaker 2: solos left and right, and like they're always good, but
Speaker 2: because there's so many of them, it's.
Speaker 4: Hard for them to stand out. They sort of run together.
Speaker 4: But that's sort of fun. I mean another example of
Speaker 4: art imitating life right where that's sort of like was
Speaker 4: a lot of part of Mercedes storyline is that she
Speaker 4: was kind of sidelined and taking advantage.
Speaker 3: Of Yes, this is a hot take, The episode with
Speaker 3: Roots before Branches should have been this yerarious finale.
Speaker 2: Oh damn, is that the the end of three?
Speaker 4: Three? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would have been a crazy series finale
Speaker 2: that would have been an iconic.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine that I ever saw Glee? I mean,
Speaker 4: it would have come back, we would have had a reboot.
Speaker 4: By now.
Speaker 2: My hot take is that season four is my fabe
Speaker 2: season hot take. That's a I mean, i'd like there's
Speaker 2: some good furs in that. Now there is that four.
Speaker 2: We were pleasantly surprised by four. Yes, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Glee hot take. Mister Shoe really is not
Speaker 1: that like cringey or like weird. And sure, a lot
Speaker 1: of his songs and a lot of his actions and
Speaker 1: maybe like some of his stuff is like questionable now
Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five, but I think he
Speaker 1: has good intentions. And maybe that's just me being in
Speaker 1: love with Matthew Morrison. But you know what, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. But that's like everything on TikTok
Speaker 1: nowadays is just like mister Shee needs to go to jail,
Speaker 1: mister Shoe being super uncomfortable. I fully disagree, and I
Speaker 1: support mister Shoe and all of his decisions.
Speaker 7: Kind of sorry, I don't disagree with that, no, And
Speaker 7: it's really it's it's consistency of character too, because like
Speaker 7: Shoe is the kind of person that would be like I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna do the throng song for all your I guess
Speaker 4: he does it for someone else, but you know, like
Speaker 4: I think like he I think he's so excited about
Speaker 4: what he's doing that like he's going to try to
Speaker 4: relate to these kids no matter what. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: think he's also still playing out a bit of his
Speaker 4: own high school thing, so I think he feels in
Speaker 4: touch with that. But yeah, I think that there's always
Speaker 4: that's the thing about mister Schuster, always the best of intentions.
Speaker 4: I think like it becomes a plot point when he
Speaker 4: debated a good path, you know, true, so it's like
Speaker 4: there is never anything bad. I think it just comes
Speaker 4: from like a yeah, just like an over excited attempt
Speaker 4: to relate to these.
Speaker 2: Kids, attempt being the key word. Let's do another one.
Speaker 6: My ottest take is that Will and Emma were totally
Speaker 6: robbed Engley, And by that I mean that we barely
Speaker 6: got to see any of them and they are like
Speaker 6: the best characters in the whole show, like as a couple,
Speaker 6: and I'm really sad about that, like the fact that
Speaker 6: in season five they ended up becoming pregnant and then
Speaker 6: we never saw her again. I was like, what is
Speaker 6: up with that? It would have been so interesting to
Speaker 6: see like a storyline with Emma being pregnant and like
Speaker 6: battling with OCD at the same time, that would have
Speaker 6: been really interesting. I just think they're amazing and they
Speaker 6: barely got any screen time at all. So yeah, that's
Speaker 6: my take.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll always take more Gama.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would love to see that, though the
Speaker 2: pregnancy storyline would have been great.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, I think the balance of
Speaker 4: Glee was at the beginning was between you know, mister
Speaker 4: Schuster's personal life and then the school life of the
Speaker 4: Glee quietly Glee Club. And it's just by season five
Speaker 4: and had splintered into so many new environments and things,
Speaker 4: and people had gone to so many levels that I
Speaker 4: think like finding space for their domestic life in the
Speaker 4: world of new kids at the school. We're now on Broadway,
Speaker 4: we're now at Niata, we're now in film school. It's like,
Speaker 4: I think it was just too much on the plate,
Speaker 4: and it seems like maybe it was the easiest thing
Speaker 4: to leave, because it's kind of feels like a nice
Speaker 4: bo right, Like you can read it in that way.
Speaker 4: They finally got together and they're going to have their
Speaker 4: happy life together, and we can let them ride off
Speaker 4: into the sunset and show up, you know, when they
Speaker 4: need to show up. Rather than because you know, I
Speaker 4: think exploring the focus of exploring. Now these young adults
Speaker 4: are in the real world, Like I think that's where
Speaker 4: the focus wanted to be. So these domestic storylines back
Speaker 4: at home just didn't really match up.
Speaker 2: I do remember like Will and Ms season one were
Speaker 2: just oh.
Speaker 4: Well and Cherry and all the terry of it all
Speaker 4: too is like so integral to the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 4: And like I think it just outgrew that in a
Speaker 4: way because the kid Yeah, a lot of ways, the
Speaker 4: kids came up, right, they all everyone really stepped up
Speaker 4: and became such real rat well rounded characters that it
Speaker 4: was like, well we got to give we got to
Speaker 4: give screen time to all of these people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure, Lly, thanks for joining us on AH,
Speaker 3: it's a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm so happy to be here and so happy
Speaker 4: you guys are carrying the torch for greed, you know,
Speaker 4: on on the podcast and always happy to join.
Speaker 3: You, always will always have you Lly, Love you guys,
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