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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to you, and that's what you really miss podcast

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Speaker 3: Hot Takes, Hot Takes, Get you Hot Takes. It's Hot Takes, guys.

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Speaker 2: I would like to start off this round of hot Takes,

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Speaker 2: and we're joined by Telly again.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Tech, you're rid of me?

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Speaker 4: Like Herb's back back back again.

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Speaker 2: Artie's number one defense lawyer, Alexa has given us a

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Speaker 2: voice message, and I would like to start off this

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Speaker 2: Hot Takes by.

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Speaker 4: Listening to that.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Jenna and Kevin, it's Alexa, your local Arty defense attorney,

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Speaker 5: here to clock in for my shift at the Hot

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Speaker 5: Take Factory. And to nobody's surprise, my hot take that

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Speaker 5: I come armed with is that Artie was not as

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Speaker 5: bad as some fans, including you, Kevin, make him out

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Speaker 5: to be. Okay, I said my piece a little bit

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Speaker 5: on your podcast last year when I was a guest.

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Speaker 5: But we're circling back, okay, because I think it needs

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Speaker 5: another I think we need another go at it. I

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Speaker 5: think that, like every other boy on this show, already

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Speaker 5: had his questionable moments. I'm not excusing that specifically. You

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Speaker 5: know what he said in Lights Out Powered Madonna.

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Speaker 6: Et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but I do think that there were other characters

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Speaker 5: But I just think that Finn was given the proper

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Speaker 5: often for ARTI it was just kind of like brushed

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Speaker 5: another side of Artie and Kevin Kevin McHale. On the

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Speaker 5: last Hot Takes episode, what really got my blood boiling, okay,

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Speaker 5: was when you were saying that you think that Artie would,

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Speaker 5: would be participating in in cell behavior and listening to

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Speaker 5: podcasts with redacted naves that I will not say as

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Speaker 5: we're considering Arty as upon in today's political climate. We

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Speaker 5: have to remember that he is part of a marginalized community. Okay,

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Speaker 5: he is affected by this legislation that is being passed

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Speaker 5: years ago. Right, Section five oh four is on the

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Speaker 5: that would essentially strip Artie's ability to go to school

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Speaker 5: So I don't think that ARTI is supporting those kinds

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Oh the defense rest Oh my god, keep

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean yeah, the Jerry's back and you win, right, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: Just like get off on stage in perform for us altogether.

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Speaker 4: That is great, that's you who's going to type the scene?

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Speaker 3: Going along with that, somebody says that Sue Silvester was

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Speaker 2: exactly because there's so many numbers, so many solos that

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Speaker 3: Of Yes, this is a hot take, The episode with

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Speaker 3: Roots before Branches should have been this yerarious finale.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn, is that the the end of three?

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine that I ever saw Glee? I mean,

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Speaker 4: By now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Glee hot take. Mister Shoe really is not

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Speaker 1: love with Matthew Morrison. But you know what, whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. But that's like everything on TikTok

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Speaker 1: nowadays is just like mister Shee needs to go to jail,

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Speaker 1: mister Shoe being super uncomfortable. I fully disagree, and I

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Speaker 7: Kind of sorry, I don't disagree with that, no, And

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Speaker 7: it's really it's it's consistency of character too, because like

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Speaker 4: Gonna do the throng song for all your I guess

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Speaker 4: he does it for someone else, but you know, like

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Speaker 4: I think like he I think he's so excited about

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Speaker 4: I think like it becomes a plot point when he

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Speaker 4: there is never anything bad. I think it just comes

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Speaker 2: Kids, attempt being the key word. Let's do another one.

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Speaker 6: My ottest take is that Will and Emma were totally

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Speaker 6: robbed Engley, And by that I mean that we barely

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll always take more Gama.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would love to see that, though the

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Speaker 2: pregnancy storyline would have been great.

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Speaker 4: I think that, you know, I think the balance of

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Speaker 4: Glee quietly Glee Club. And it's just by season five

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Speaker 4: and had splintered into so many new environments and things,

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Speaker 4: we're now at Niata, we're now in film school. It's like,

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Speaker 4: I think it was just too much on the plate,

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Speaker 4: bo right, Like you can read it in that way.

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Speaker 4: They finally got together and they're going to have their

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Speaker 4: need to show up. Rather than because you know, I

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Speaker 2: I do remember like Will and Ms season one were

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Speaker 4: Well and Cherry and all the terry of it all

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was so good.

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Speaker 4: And like I think it just outgrew that in a

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Speaker 4: and became such real rat well rounded characters that it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure, Lly, thanks for joining us on AH,

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Speaker 3: it's a pleasure to have you.

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Speaker 4: you guys are carrying the torch for greed, you know,

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Speaker 4: on on the podcast and always happy to join.

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