1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollly. It feels like we're 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just carrying this over day after day after day. Are 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson in the morning. Screw me up a 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: little bit too, A little bit? All right, My days 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: are all they've completely run together. I don't know what 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: happens in training camp because you don't take weekends off 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: weekends at all. Every any the day of the week 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, working on the days the players team schedule 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: right when they're practicing, So I have no idea you 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: know what day of the week it is. What I 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: have that same feeling like I think we're off on Sunday. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: But how far away is that? I wake up in 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the morning. I must all I'm missing is at you, babe? 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Playing missing because I just wake I wake up. Oh, 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: go get a shower, studio, go to practice right stories, 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: then get up and do it again, repeat, repeat, repeat. Yeah, 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: That's how I've been to so no. Well, I mean, 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: at least we have football to talk about. It sure 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: beats uh, you know, doing a lot of other things 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: for a living. There's no I'm not complaining, but it 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: is kind of running together, yeah a little bit. Uh. 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Steelers are wrapping up a day seven of their training 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: camp yesterday, so let's this time next week we'll have 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: a game in hand. Yeah how about that? So that'll 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: be interesting. Um yeah, we don't. We won't do a 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: show next Friday. I wouldn't think said anything about us 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: to the show. I'm gonna be you and I are 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: doing shows from Canton. We're going to Saturday and sun. 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sundays. We'll wrap up the game up there. 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: We'll also be talking a lot about the Hall of 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Fame stuff. Um, that'll be fun. I'm excited to get 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: up there and just see the environment and all that too. Yeah, 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that'll be Uh what are we three to six three 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: six Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, and then back imagine right 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: probably Fridays and yeah, back back at the Drive. Then 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: on on Monday, back at our. I don't want to 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: call this our normal slot. No, I don't want them 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: to get too comfortable. So it worked out so well. 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm also doing the post game show with Adam Crawley, 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: which you definitely wouldn't want to do, the eight am 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: slotted on Friday. I mean we take calls for like 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: an hour, hour and a half or two after the game, 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and some of those are a little troubling. Matt, you 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: sent me a thing last night. Um, this from Mike Sando. 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: We we we talked about it. This Okay, Yeah, I forgot 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: all the stuff I sent you, but I thought that 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: was interesting, he said. Jared Goff's slide coincided with Todd 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: Gurley's demise in Los Angeles. That could validate the way 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: some voters see Ryan Tanneho in relation to Derrick Henry, 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: um Kirk Cousins in relation to Dalvin Cook, and Baker 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Mayfield in relation to Nick Chubb. The elite back can 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: help any quarterback if defenses feel compelled to commit additional 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: resources to stopping the run. This is what we've talked about. 56 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was and backed up with some really 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: good examples, and I'm like, that's what I've been trying 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: to say. I mean, we used the Dalvin Cook all 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: these guys, but I didn't put two and two together 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: about Girlie's demise happened to coincide with all of a 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: sudden golf stinks and where I'm going with this is 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: right now. I mean this was off Sandos quarterback tears, 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: and I just grabbed that blurb and thought, where we 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: should talk about this because this is what I liked 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: how this was phrased, Because really, to me, Cousins, Tannehill, Baker, 66 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: they're all in the same tier. Tannehill's the best of 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the group and has had the most success and has 68 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: some really impressive stats. But took a team to the 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl, exactly right, He's considered the worst of those groups. 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: But because but he lost his back, you know, like 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: that's where I was going with this, Like if Cousins 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: lost Cook for a year or going forward, he might 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: fall to golf land, you know where he is now, 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: and maybe Tannehill would too, maybe Baker would too. And 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I certainly recognized that Roethlisberger was way different than that. 76 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: But late in his career he's I'm not even saying 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: he's at the game manager tier, but he's inching towards 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: there for sure, and you and it's certainly smart to 79 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: have him manage games more and have that back that 80 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: helps him. But I thought when when they said it 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: that way, it was like it is true as soon 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: as Girley fell apart. You have no there's no threat. 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: There's no threat in all good receive first of all, 84 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: not Henry, but they're easy throws for him. There, you know, 85 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: it's and and the nl AF folks can't judge that 86 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: in any way shape they can't, you know. And he 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: goes back to you know, the Steelers averaging over the 88 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: final ten games last season fifty yards rushing per game. 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: That's worse than not having like not you you not 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: only had no threat to like there was no threatening 91 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: running back, there was no threat to run run that. 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: It became too difficult for sure. But you can't tell 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: me whenever you're a linebacker and you see Nick Chubb 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: or Henry or Cook or Girley in his prime or 95 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: hopefully what Harris is going to become, that doesn't make 96 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: play in the past, or you know, things a lot harder. 97 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, in both phases. You know those backs that 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: can do a lot or they're the foundation of their offense. 99 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: These teams build it that way for a reason, knowing 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: who their quarterback was, and I think it is a 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: little frightening when that back isn't there. And Ben's had 102 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: to deal with that for some time now, Yeah, for sure, 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and that should change this year. In fact, you know, 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: I actually fashioned a story on d K Pittsburgh Sports 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: about what we talked about yesterday on the show, the 106 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: two point conversions and how the Steelers can now stress 107 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: a defense with with what they have there. And and 108 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: I actually asked at first, I asked Darry Alsovski about it, 109 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: the Steelers inside linebackers coach. Um, I guess he prepares 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: for that for seven shots every day, you know, And 111 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I asked, It was kind of 112 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: a two part question. I said, you know, we I 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: talked about the play that they had run the day 114 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: before where Naja Harris split out wide and you know, 115 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: the first time we've seen that, I said, Devin Bush 116 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: was went out there with him. So you're obviously you're 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: tipping that you're a man right away, uh, And I said, 118 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: is that the toughest play for an inside linebacker to handle? 119 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Going all the way out to the boundary, You're basically 120 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: a corner. You're basically playing cornerback. You know, you're you're 121 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: used to being more in the slot, You're used to 122 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: being in the middle of the field. Now, all of 123 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're going out no man's land. They called 124 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: that the island for a reason. You're out on the island. 125 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to use the sidelines as his 126 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: best body and things like that. You know, so just 127 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: you just don't get asked to do it. A whole 128 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: lot to say about it, he said, you know, And 129 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: I said, it looked like Devon had pretty good coverage 130 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: on that, and yet it was unstoppable. Yeah, eas he 131 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: touched and he said, we could have been a little 132 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: closer to him initially. It's hard when you play linebacker 133 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: to not line up three or four yards away from 134 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: somebody used to you're not used to play face up 135 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: to somebody, uh down there in that situation. We try 136 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: to work on getting as close to the line of 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage as you can. If you watch it again like 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: we did, it was like, hey, dev just move up 139 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: another yard and when you intersect the route, you'll be 140 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: in a little better position. He was in good position, 141 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: but his alignment would have made a better result for us. 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: So it just shows I'm right, Yeah, you know, it's 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: just breaking downward. Yeah, if you're one step closer than 144 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: when you when you when you make the best but 145 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, you move up and do that 146 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: on nausea. Harris, he's six too. He's got really long arms, 147 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: so he's got the size advantage across the cot and 148 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't care who the line other than maybe Tremaine Edmonds. 149 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: You know. Um, we've seen him catch the favor routes 150 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: and do those kind of things. I mean, he's really 151 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: good high pointing the football, going up and getting big, 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: strong hands. So you have to be cognitive, you know, 153 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: you have to be aware of that. He doesn't have 154 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: just one route out. He can run back down or 155 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: you know. Um, and I said, how about what about 156 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: nausea in that situation? Does he stress a defense more 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: than most backs? He said, He's a weapon. He's definitely 158 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: a weapon. You know, you expect Devon to nullify that. 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about a foot in alignment, which is something 160 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: something you can easily take care of. It was nice 161 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: to see you've got two well conditioned, mentally strong players 162 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: going at it. I'm glad to see it happen because 163 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: it's helps a coach with a teachable moment for Devin 164 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Bush right. At the same time, it just shows how 165 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: small the game of inches of football too. You know, 166 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: like that the first time that that that they you know, 167 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: they let's say they come out in that formation in 168 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: the in the opener against Buffalo. Here's the thing. The 169 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: next day they're in zone defense yesterday and they split 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: out wide and now, okay, now you get a linebacker 171 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: on Chase Claypool touchdown. It was touchdown, and that's an 172 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: obvious miss, right, And it's a great coaching point obviously 173 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: by Jerry and that's all. That's how coaches think, Like 174 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: if you were taking that step forward, maybe it wouldn't 175 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: have been as a bunch of mismatch. You made it 176 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: a mismatch because you weren't aligned properly. Right, But on 177 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: the fiftie play of the game in week twelve, how 178 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: many linebackers are going to allow? Yeah, exactly properly and 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: half of the marna's talented his bush to begin with, 180 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just it's I mean, 181 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: it stresses you that that that package that they can 182 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: put on the field now, I mean, you know what, 183 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: they have a wide receiver. Abron went to the Pro 184 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago. He got thirteen touchdown 185 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: pass many of them down short like that fire move 186 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: fire moved some weapon down there. Harris is a weapon 187 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: down there. And oh, by the way, you can also 188 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: run the football in that situation. Think about how many 189 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns Harris and Friar Moves combined for last year. It's 190 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: a bazillion. I mean, I know what only had one 191 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: last year? Huh. Yeah, I thought he was a great 192 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: red zone numbers the year before. The year before the 193 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: only played Remember he only played four games. But they 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: both have a tremendous history of getting into pain. I mean, 195 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: he has sixteen touchdowns and catches. Uh, you know, Harris 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: is caught in the last two seasons in college caught 197 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: eleven touchdown passes. Yeah, and that's they're not coming from 198 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: behind very often in the fourth quarter. Right, So I mean, 199 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: this is this is what you've now given Ben Roethlisberger. 200 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: These are his best weapons. I think since I tend 201 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: to agree, I think there's more depth. There's no weak links. 202 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's no guy that he's not quite as 203 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: good as the others they always had, Yeah, they always 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, after Keith Miller retired, they've been kind of 205 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: trying to piece it together tight end, yeah, right, right right. 206 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Darius Greens and the Yeah those guys. McDonald was fine, 207 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: but you're right, Um, you know, I think they could 208 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: go Ebron Harris, three receivers and run out of that 209 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: very well. If you're against the light box or against 210 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: the light defense. He could even go empty out of that, 211 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, easily. Or you could get big with Ebron 212 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Friar Muth Harris and two receivers and out of that 213 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Juju is your smallest guy on the field. Yeah, right right, 214 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and everywhere in between. They've got 215 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of options there. You know, you still have 216 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: wadded fullback who could we probably don't gonna play a ton, 217 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's one look that they probably haven't prepared for, 218 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: or sixth offensive lineman or four wide. You know Washington 219 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: is a pretty good player too, so they're they're deep. Yeah. 220 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: I asked Tomlin just to follow finish up on the 221 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: two point conversion stuff. I said, you know, you haven't 222 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: done it as much in recent years. Do you do 223 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: you think with what you the diversity that you have there, Um, offensively, 224 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: could you could that be back this year? And he says, 225 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm always open to that. Um, when I 226 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with our ability to win those moments. I 227 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: like to be thoughtfully aggressive, so certainly it's been on 228 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: his mind. It sounds like, yeah, that wasn't oh good idea, yeah, 229 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: or you know, that's that's not something we're worried about 230 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: right now. He I mean he actually answered the question, 231 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: and I really something that they've been thinking about. Yeah, yeah, 232 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I really expected to answer that question to be We've 233 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: had success with it in the past. I'm open to 234 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: the idea, but this offense needs to prove it. Can 235 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: you prove itself first or something like that, where this 236 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: was a little more like, yeah, we kind of like it. Well, 237 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, they do seven shots every 238 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: day to open practice, and the offense has been winning, 239 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: especially with Roethlisberger in the field, pretty consistently in those situations, 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: which is great. Like typically they'll they'll get two out 241 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: of three. Well again, if you do, if you're getting 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: two out of three against that defense, yeah right, right right, 243 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: that knows your tendencies and is one of the best 244 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Certainly, again, you want to hit 245 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: over probably fifty would be ideal where it's clearly a win. 246 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: But if you're having that kind of success, in practice 247 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: why not? And they know your plays like you're doing 248 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. You know you're not gonna run fifty 249 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: plays from No, they well we saw that one last weekend, 250 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: right they know what and stop? Yeah? Um, so that's 251 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: a tricky But the running back again, Nauja Harris Um, 252 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: I think the stress he takes off the other ten 253 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: on the field he's with, especially the one where number 254 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: seven is immense, shows several really good examples of it 255 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: from a round the league. And the stress that he 256 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: takes off the defense. I mean again, he gets you 257 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: five less plays on the field the course of the 258 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: season in seventeen games, it's a hundred plays. And on 259 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: those a hundred plays, one guy gets injured. That didn't 260 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: you know? Things like that. There's little things. It's the 261 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: little things that that that the running back can make 262 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the difference. Again, I don't think any of that is 263 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: factored in by the analytics people. No, And I don't 264 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: know how you do it. But then maybe they need 265 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: to reevaluate the value of different positions because it's more 266 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: than just yeah I can find one in the eighth 267 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: round or the fifth round, or I would rather have 268 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: that money tied up in a tackle for five or 269 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: six years than a running back at a good price. 270 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: But there is an effect. I mean, there's no doubt 271 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: it's a trickle down effect. And the guys that that 272 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: Sandoe mentioned there best examples you could ever say. Yeah, 273 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: they all got paid to there's a reason the team 274 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: paid them. Yeah. Yeah, there's a guy I'm not gonna 275 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: mention who's a football mind that I very very much 276 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: trust that. It was late in the year last year, 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: texting me and said, the Steelers are Nick Chubb away 278 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: from being one of the best teams in the league, 279 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, the one of the very best teams in 280 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the league. I wrote back, I'm like, wow, could you 281 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: imagine what they would have been like with Nick Chubb 282 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: last year? It was? You know, and I don't I'm 283 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: not gonna put that on here. I think Nick Chubb 284 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: is really good. I think he's one of them. I 285 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: think he's one of the top five runners in the league. 286 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that Harris is that we'll find out. 287 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: And I don't think he isn't as explosive. I don't 288 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: know if he with the long ones like job, but 289 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: he might be more durable maybe. I mean, he's definitely 290 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: way better and he's a better receiver. Yeah, you know. 291 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: So you know we've seen Chub getting nicked up a 292 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: little bit in his career. We haven't seen that with 293 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Harry and we didn't see it with Harrison college. And 294 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: you know how the Alabama likes to Oh yeah, they 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: grind those guys into practices and easy either. Yeah. Um, 296 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting. I think, you know, adding a 297 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: guy who could potentially be a top ten running back 298 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: in the league, it has a massive effects. You're aging 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in the next quarterback. You know, all the above 300 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line question. It's gotta be interesting to see 301 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: what will I don't know how much we'll see if 302 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: nase Harrison the in the in the preseason opener, I 303 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: hope zero. Yeah, probably I wouldn't play one once now, 304 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: not now when you went him out there with the ones. Yeah, 305 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're playing much of the preseason period. 306 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Get him a few carriages, yeah, I mean, I've been 307 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: playing some. But it's a valuable commodity. It is a 308 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: valuable commodity. You want to save those carries for when 309 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: they matter. But that's gonna do it for this segment. 310 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: So for my partner Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lully will 311 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: back right after this with more of the show Don't 312 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: You Go Anywhere Your tunes about Drive on Home of 313 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to 314 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and Matt. 315 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: We've got a couple of days of open practices in 316 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: the books, starting to get some ideas about things that 317 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: I have ideas, but getting a better I can I 318 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: can actually talk about their fans and stands, and you 319 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: know there could be anyone up there reporting and in 320 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: their version, so it's legal now about their their opinions 321 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: on such things. Um the offensive line. Does it bother 322 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: you that they haven't gotten that group, the presume starting 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: group on the field together at this point a little, 324 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: just because there's so much lack of continuity there. You know, 325 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: every rep matters why not use this time to get advanced. 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: But compared to the rest of the league, they still 327 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: have a week head start, so if you compare it 328 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: to thirty other teams, Dallas has kind of been doing 329 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the same thing there. They've got a bunch of guys 330 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: on the pup list. Yeah there, you know, Dak Prescott's 331 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: not practicing now. Part of me looks at it like 332 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: why not take this extra week? Is a real advantage too, 333 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: But I think that's just not how the NFL works. 334 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: You're still getting to rep your stuff. Yeah, I mean, 335 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: I think now more than ever, and we've seen it 336 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Maybe the number one 337 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: goal of training camp or certainly don't list is get 338 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: everyone to the starting line. And now you've got an 339 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: extra game too, And you know, like I think teams 340 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: figure it out in the first month of the season. 341 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: Do you think the extra how much make feelings about that? 342 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: But how much of a factory do you think the 343 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: extra game will be this year? With like Kevin Colbert 344 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: talked earlier in the week, Um, you know, he's like, 345 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, we could see Mike tom Win give more 346 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: veterans off during the middle of the week and things 347 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: of that nature. Yeah, that might make sense, especially once 348 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: they've proven themselves. So you know that maybe not the 349 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: offensive line unless it's you know, the Palacias and the 350 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: Castros might not get it anymore. You know, there's nobody 351 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: on the line. Um, I don't know. I mean last 352 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: year the Steelers kind of basically got robbed the bye week. 353 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: They had to play three games in eleven days. And 354 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: I might saying it's a direct result, but it had 355 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: to contribute to not playing as well at the end 356 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: of the season at the beginning, you know. And I 357 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: brought that up last week in an article on on 358 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: d K Pittsburgh Sports, and it was it was something. 359 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: It was after we talked to Ben. And there's still 360 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: people out there saying, oh that that kind of stuff 361 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: happens all the time. Teams play three games in seventeen 362 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: days this year doesn't happen all the time. And that 363 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: doesn't happen like, Okay, you go into a season as 364 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: a coach, you get the schedule, and you know, if 365 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: you get the schedule, okay, so these I'll give my 366 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: I'll get my vets off these days. You lay it 367 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: out to the minute and we're gonna Yeah, here's what 368 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. When the Steelers play a Thursday night game, 369 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: the practices are practices, their walkthroughs. Yeah, yeah, everybody's in hats, 370 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: everybody there's just want there there's no physicality whatsoever to 371 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: those practices because you just played a game to you know, 372 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: two days before that and you're gonna play another one 373 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: because you don't practice Monday every year, come back on Tuesday. 374 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: You played a game two days before that, and you're 375 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: gonna play game two days after that. He's not gonna 376 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: beat these guys up and practice on Tuesday when you play. 377 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: You know that schedule. It's kind of when you play 378 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: three and eleven and you weren't planning on playing you 379 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: did have those practice like they had no idea when 380 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: that different for that stretch, and you didn't never get 381 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: to buy to self examine yourselves or the projects you 382 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: were gonna do want to buy now get thrown away. 383 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: You know, there's such creatures a habit that when the 384 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: schedule comes out, I'm sure Tomlin sets it up and 385 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: you can get off of that, but we're not get 386 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: any practice time here. This looks like a stretch will 387 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: be tired. This is a time that I can get 388 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: my coaches out of the building and they can go 389 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: see their family and get mo Rale back up and 390 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: give them a small little project to do and all 391 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: those type of things. And every year, kind of like 392 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: you just did, the Steelers inevitably play on a Thursday, 393 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: and you always lay it out, Really, folks, you would think, 394 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you give the Pirates four days between games, 395 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: you would think, Wow, they're super well arrested and they're 396 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: more prepared for this game than ever the Pens or whoever. 397 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: But in the NFL, if you travel, you basically don't 398 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: get a practice, and if you have a home game, 399 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: you do, but it's not going to be a physical one. 400 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a mentally based, you know practice, 401 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: And it just shows. I just say, Thursday night football 402 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: is bad for football, So three and eleven days is worse, 403 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm not excuse. They're 404 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: not the only team and that had a hard time 405 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: with COVID, but they got the short end of the 406 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: stick and a couple of situations. Yeah, it's just it 407 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: checks you out of your comfort zone. In those kind 408 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: of situations, you're just gonna run what you run. You're 409 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: not coming up with any scheme or you know, team 410 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: specific schemes like we're gonna we can we've been you know, 411 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: repping this play to use against such such and such team. No, 412 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: you you're gonna go out and run your stuff. And 413 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: that's the NFL's argument for why there should be division 414 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: games on Thursday because you know each other know each other. Yeah, 415 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: and I get that, But to me, I I look 416 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: at important games, the most important games, and this is 417 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: when both teams are at their worst. Why are we 418 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: making accounts so much? Why not have an f C 419 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: NFC game that day? Yeah, the Thursday games going away 420 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't bother me one bit. But it's a lot of 421 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: big fan I get that. You know, Monday nights have 422 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: been around for forever. It's just an extension of Sunday. 423 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's not a huge deal unless you're playing 424 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: a you know, if you've gotta if you got a 425 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: fly from the coast coast, that's a little different. You're 426 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: not in the morning. Yeah, that goes back to what 427 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, Bob Labriola was talking about a couple of 428 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: years ago when when the you know, the Browns were 429 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: suddenly over the hot team. How do you deal with 430 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: that if you haven't had to deal with it on 431 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: a regular something to it. It goes back to that 432 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: scheduling thing that we just talked about. You know, Mike 433 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: Tomlin has been through it so many times that these 434 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: players have been through it so many times. Okay, I know, 435 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: if I get a West Coast gear, if I've got 436 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: a game in Seattle on a Monday night, the next 437 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: day shot, the next day shot, you're not getting back 438 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: until seven am or whatever, there's probably some jet lag 439 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: and stuff over overlapping there. Prepping the next week is 440 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: gonna be really difficult to sum it up. So you 441 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: take it easy on the players that week, absolutely, And 442 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: I hope you don't travel the next week. You hope 443 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: your home and usually the NFL helps you, but not. 444 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: You know. The the other thing too is I know 445 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily always feasible, but when they went to 446 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule, I was really hoping for two 447 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: eye weeks so those Thursday night ers wouldn't be short, 448 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, that you'd have a bye going into a 449 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: Thursday night or because they also think, you know, there's 450 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot to the players safety to the product is 451 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: not as good, it's not as good as good enough 452 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: representation of who really is the better team. But more importantly, 453 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I think it's not healthy for the players bodies. Yeah, 454 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: that's the that's the big thing. So I think you know, 455 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: when you have you know, Mike Tomlan gets the uh, 456 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the you hear the players coach thrown around a lot. 457 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Who are the who are the real quote unquote non players? 458 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: You know who's not a players coach in today's NFL 459 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: Belichick that's about it. I don't know, because I've also 460 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: heard guys like Shanahan and McVeigh and the real XS 461 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: and oose dudes sometimes look at their players like their 462 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: video games. Yeah you know what I mean, Like they're 463 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: just not I can win with golf or cousins or whoever. 464 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: It's more me, which is kind of a selfish way 465 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: of explaining it, and buy a selfish way they look 466 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: at and it's has it's been proven that's a tough 467 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: way to go in when those guys haven't had the 468 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy's and Joe's, the excess and O's have not mattered 469 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: as much. True. You know, McVeigh has been very successful 470 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: each time, but he's had great players, but a couple 471 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: of with with a six and ten. I think a 472 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago coming off the Super Bowl, the Rams, 473 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah weren't they didn't. They weren't quite as good coming 474 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: off the Super I think he's had a pretty good 475 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: record every step of the way. I mean Shanahan has 476 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: been the head coach three years, got hit hit hard 477 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: by injuries, two of them. But they were amongst the 478 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: worst teams in the league those two years too, you know, 479 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: and then and then went to the Super Bowl and loss. Okay, 480 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: they were not They went nine and seven, nine and seven, okay, um, 481 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: so again they went eleven and five, thirteen and three. 482 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: Some of the injuries what we talked about in the 483 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: previous segment, all of a sudden, Todd Gurley shot you 484 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: and nine is seven right, right, So the Jimmy's and 485 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Joe's do matter. Oh, they've also especially with that team, 486 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: they're so top heavy. You know, Ramsey and Donald make 487 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: the world go round. It's fine. Kind of interesting, is 488 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: if you look over the last three years, it's a 489 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: football siders thing. The Rams have been by far the 490 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: healthiest team in the league. The Niners have been by 491 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: far the most injured team in the league. So they're 492 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: obvious competitors, similar styles coaching. And you wonder about the Rams, 493 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean part of me wonders, and that is their 494 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: training staff a little better than the average one in 495 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: the league. Is it just purely there's there's injury luck. 496 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I think most of it's luck is that do they 497 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: rest their players a little better so that they get 498 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: a five percent difference. That's That's one thing I think 499 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Tomlin does a really good job. You know, you hear 500 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the next man up thing thrown all around a lot 501 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: by Tomlin, and he does it to put that mentality, 502 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: to put that grain of thought within the players like that. 503 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: You know, you're a backup and you have to step 504 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: in and play for whoever. Well, it's the next man 505 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: up we gotta have. We we can't have any drop off. 506 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: There's going to be a drop Every coach is going 507 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: to be a drop off. You're so pleasantly surprised if 508 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: there isn't, Like, Wow, is better than I thought. But 509 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: to talk you wind up talking these guys into well, 510 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: the expectation is I gotta you know, there's not the 511 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: only time I've ever heard him talk about the backups 512 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: them having to make adjustments for the backups was in 513 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: with the quarterback position. You can't sell that to the 514 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: rest of the team, and you can't sell a lot 515 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: of it to the rest of the team. So let's 516 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: say the Niners lose Trent Williams. Well, everyone's sitting in 517 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: the offensive meeting rooms. We never used to help the 518 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: left tackle, and now all of our protections geared towards 519 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: helping the left tackle. Like, I think there's a difference. 520 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: These guys aren't. I mean, they understand, but I also 521 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: think it puts that mentality with the team that hey, 522 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: just because we're missing said player, the expectation is still 523 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: we go out and win, find a way to win. 524 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: We need you to play well enough to win. We're 525 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: not going to use as an excuse of why we don't, 526 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: without question, without question, No, there's never I mean Belichick 527 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't make excuses last year. I lost my quarterback and 528 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: all these guys opted out, and you know, they just 529 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: we still expect to win. He kind of did at 530 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: the end that he actually kind of did, and he 531 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of played last year like I'm bum punting this year. 532 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I've had enough. Yeah, when he was when he was asked, 533 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: but I can't remember the exact quotes about it, but 534 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: he was, you know, we had a lot of salary 535 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: caps stuff. Yeah, not much more than them, right right, right, 536 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Like I think last year was a big punt for 537 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots, especially after the opt outs and stuff. Anyway, Um, 538 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: where were we I got with that. We've been going 539 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: all over the place. Yeah, we've been kind of um. 540 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: But I just think that that, you know, when you 541 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: have a veteran head coach, I wonder how some of 542 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: the young coaches in the league, like, how's Dan Campbell handling? 543 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I look at the Bengals, Yeah, I mean he's been 544 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: three and thirteen two years in a row, and they 545 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: don't get the travel or and neither the Lions. You know, 546 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: they're they're not asked to be on prime time a ton, 547 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: but they still deal with things they haven't dealt with before. 548 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: And last year was a huge example. Of course, every 549 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: team got rerouted at least one. Honestly think that the 550 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: lack of training camp in preseason helped the team like 551 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers, so we talked about it a lot last year. 552 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: The scheduling quirks worked against them. Then everyone had it 553 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: different than they were on the low end of the 554 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: they were on the they were the team that had 555 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: probably hit the hardest, that had more games moved around. 556 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: The league has said this year for they've already said 557 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: they they're not going to do an eighteenth week this year. 558 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. So that's off the table, and 559 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us back to who's vaccinating who isn't. 560 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you're unvaccinated and you come up positive, 561 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: we're not helping your team because of it, you know, 562 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: which is big. It sounds like the schedule is likely 563 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: to stay the same unless something new straian. I mean, 564 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: who knows. But you shouldn't see teams it like they 565 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: were last year with the entire you know, hey, your 566 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: entire offensive line has to sit up practices. It's the Broncos. 567 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: You don't have a quarterback, you know what. Any crazy 568 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: Tuesday Wednesday games, but they're But there are coaches that 569 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: I that I trust to maneuver this, the handle the 570 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: rapid handle it. Yeah, you know, I agree. You get 571 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: thrown a curveball and you're you don't you don't you know, 572 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: your knees don't buckles at the topic list on that 573 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: um you know. But along those lines, how we started 574 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: this segment was these guys lays things out and he 575 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: probably looks back and says, last Tuesday, I would have 576 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: practiced one thousand percent different than I did. I made 577 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: it a Rudolph Haskins type press pat practice. Thinking I 578 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: had all this time before. You know when really, if 579 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I knew I was playing that when I was, I 580 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: would have been prepping for the Ravens or whoever. You know, 581 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Ravens had tough too. They had a couple of games 582 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: where they didn't have their guys. You know, that is 583 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: what it is. They did that to themselves. But anyways, 584 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm 585 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Dale Ally. When we come back, ESPNS put some player 586 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: prop bets, their best NFL player prop bets up. Let's 587 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: talk about some of those when we come back. Right 588 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: after this. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're 589 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Your 590 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and Goals 591 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally here with 592 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt. As I mentioned, ESPN put together 593 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: some of their best player props bets for uh for quarterbacks, 594 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: running back, some receivers, the overtriners here. Can I throw 595 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: one thing in here first? Yes, I don't know if 596 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: we've ever talked about this, but I have a betting 597 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: angle that I think would never lose. Okay, if you 598 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: had a gazillion bazillion dollars. If anybody else wouldn't bet it, 599 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: do this, they should take my advice and send me 600 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: ten percent when they went at the end of the year. 601 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: What if you went to every player, prop everyone and 602 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: bet the under. I think you'd win because people get hurt. 603 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: People get hurt. I mean, I think if there's a 604 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: loophole there. I mean, it's hard to do, and you 605 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: gotta have a lot of money to do it. I mean, 606 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: I guess you put a buck on every player. You know, 607 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to put a bazillion dollars on every player, 608 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: But if you bet every under, I think you win. Probably, 609 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't know it's true. Well you could. We could 610 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: print these out and look at them after the season 611 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: and see how it works out. We do all of them, 612 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, We gotta do. I mean every guy in 613 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: the league. That would take a lot of it takes 614 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of manpower. But if you're a rich millionaire 615 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: that's retired right now, you should do it. If you're 616 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: rich millionaire, you're not betting your money. You have nothing 617 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: to do all day. You get to be a millionaire, 618 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: don't pop my balloon here. I think I'm right all right, 619 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: So here the here the props share that they put 620 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: up here the best ones. Jalen Hurts under three hundred 621 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: sixty or thirty six hundred point five passing yards seventeen games. 622 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: You think he played all seventeen games. Well, all these 623 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: are based on him doing that, which is why my 624 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: theory hits because nobody many of these people will not 625 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they adjusted a little big number, pretty 626 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: big number. Yeah, I think it will be losing a lot. 627 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he gets benched. I'll still go under. 628 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a good pass Carson Wentz over 629 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: three thousand, six d seventy five passing yards. It's about 630 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: the same number, about the same number, a little bit higher. 631 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: They're going over with him under with Hurts, I don't 632 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: think he gets benched either. Um, Okay, better surrounding cast, 633 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: better pass are still. I mean, I know they were equal. 634 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I think I think that goes over. Um yeah, I'm 635 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: pretty cool with that. Here's the Okay, here's one little 636 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: loophole for that though. If the Colts season isn't going well, 637 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: if they bench him for under seventy of the snaps. 638 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: They only give up a second round pick, not a 639 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: first round pick. So week a team when you need 640 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: this to hit, if they're not in the playoffs, they 641 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: might be like, we really want to see what Jacobison 642 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: could do. Oh, there's no doubt. So I might go 643 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: under on that one. Daniel Jones over thirty seven point 644 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: five passing yards. I think going under on everything Daniel 645 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: Jones related, no matter what the number is. I love 646 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: his weapons, but there are are lines horrendous. Shane lem 647 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: you got carded off yesterday, And the only thing good 648 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: about Shane Lemus he wears sixty six. I mean their 649 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: lines back when he's a starter and Jones start last year, 650 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm going under on Daniel Jones. Baker Mayfield over thirty 651 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: nine point five passing I'm going over. You're going over. 652 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: I think he goes over four thousand yards this year. 653 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I think that offense is will be quite good. I mean, 654 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: I keep going back to two things last year about 655 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the Browns, and it's really not even a Baker thing. 656 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Three games in slop. I mean they played three games 657 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: in a row and the worst weather of they they 658 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: play in Cleveland, so you expect I mean there might 659 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: be one or two here, but I mean they dealt 660 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: with three in a row that his numbers were really, 661 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: really low, And I can't believe that they're passing game 662 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: is better without Odell. I mean, he's got to prove 663 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: that he could stay healthy for quiet. He hasn't done 664 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: so and since. But Betty gives them more than he 665 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: did last year. Maybe, I mean he hasn't two years. 666 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: But now I'll go over on that. Okay. I also 667 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: don't think they can just run the ball like crazy either. 668 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow over fifty point five over. Yeah, they're going 669 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: to have to throw. Assuming he's right in week one, 670 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: which I'm sure he'll play. But as he right in 671 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: week one, I think he's really good, and I think 672 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: their weapons are really good. These ones are a little 673 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: bit more interesting because they're passing touchdowns. These are it's 674 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: a little bit harder thing to bet on. Sam Donald 675 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: under twenty one and a half touchdown passes mhm, seventeen games, 676 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: seventeen games, it's just over one a game. Yeah, I 677 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: think I'll go over on that. McCaffrey will catch five 678 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: or six. Darn It's production or projection is seventeen point 679 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: two according to ESPN, So that's a four under. Yeah. 680 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: They think he's gonna throw one touchdown a game. They 681 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: think that the Panthers are gonna be one of the 682 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: run heaviest teams in the league. But McCaffrey's gonna catch 683 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of passes. He's gonna take three swing passes 684 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: to the house that I'm going over with that. I 685 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: think I go over no question. Ryan seventeen game schedule, 686 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's getting bench for anybody. Ryan 687 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick under twenty two and a half passing touchdowns. I'm 688 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: gonna go under just because he starts the whole year. Yeah, 689 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I wish there was somebody else that. I mean, I 690 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: think they like Heineken when people realize, But I think 691 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Fits throws four interceptions and then next day throws two 692 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: and gets benched at halftime at least once this year. Yeah, 693 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: that's who he is. Who he is, and then he 694 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: goes out, you know, three weeks later and throws five touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, 695 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: that's good, But I bet he doesn't play every snap 696 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: even if he's healthy. Trevor Lawrence under twenty four and 697 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: a half touchdown passes. That's a big number. For a rookie, 698 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: it is, but they got a lot of weapons. He's 699 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna play, although they're they've opened camp with with with 700 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: he and uh Menshew Minshew sharing time just at the one. 701 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: To me, I don't urban Meyer might overthink things and 702 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: he may not be an NFL coach. By the way, 703 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: but only four rookie quarterbacks have reached twenty five touchdown 704 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: passes in league history. I think they've all been the 705 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: last couple of years though, right, isn't it Herbert and Mayfield? 706 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: And I mean I think they're all recent guys. It's 707 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: a couple of them, are you know? Times are different now, 708 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: they're different, but it's not a bad offense. I think 709 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: i'd lean over his projections twenty two and a half, 710 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: but this also, I mean I lean over on a 711 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of these. But that's the beauty of what Vegas 712 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: does here. If you go under on all of them, 713 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: which nobody wants to do you uh Derek Carr over 714 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: twenty four and a half passing touchdowns, I think I'll 715 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: go under last. Yeah, it's a really good year and 716 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: they got weapons. I like their passing game. I like 717 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: car I would I think that line is sticking in 718 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: my head, and I think Gruden loves to pound the 719 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: rock in deep with Jacobs and those guys. Matt Ryan 720 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: under twenty eight and a half passing touchdowns under his 721 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: projections twenty four point seven, that would be a really 722 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: down year, from really down to year. And I think 723 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: they'll throw a lot. They don't have a true I mean, 724 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: Mike Davis is the lead running back and they're gonna 725 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: pound him in the ends. You know you're gonna be 726 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of short passing touchdowns. How many 727 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns his pits gonna catch? Yeah? What do you what 728 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: do you think he's over under a touchdown reception number 729 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: is seven? I just think it's seven or eight. Yeah, 730 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: And that was one thing Julio Jones didn't do. It 731 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: was never a big touchdown gun. I don't know. I 732 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: think I'm still going under Miles Sanders under one thousand 733 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: and twenty five and a point and a half rushing yards. Yeah. 734 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: I think I'm under on that he can't stay healthy 735 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: for yeah, And I think Gainwell will be on the 736 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: field a little bit. They get guys a couple other 737 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: retread types that might eat into him. I think that 738 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: the jury is still out if he's an every down back, 739 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: Nausea Harris over over nine and seventy five and a 740 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: half rushing yards, That would that would that would throw 741 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: your your little theory out of whack. I think the 742 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Vegas is way. I bet they adjust that as this 743 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: as the summer goes along. Yeah, I think that's I 744 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: would bet every under except that one to get to 745 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: in in a seventeen game schedule. Now they to talk 746 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: before as well. If you get a thousand yards of 747 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: season as a running back, I think he only had 748 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: average sixty three yards per game, or a wide receiver 749 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: win him at the sixteen games. What's the number? Ninety 750 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: three seventy five and a half nine seven five point 751 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: five divided by seventeen equals fifty seven point four. You 752 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: gotta average fifty seven yards a game. The stealers are 753 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: average fifty yards a game with no running game. Yeah, 754 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he and get every carry of 755 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: every game, and of course you could get hurt. I mean, 756 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: but that's that's baked in with all these guys. I 757 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: think the averages sixty yards a game, I would hope, so, 758 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I would hope. So. Yeah, when the defense should keep 759 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: games close, I mean, even if the offense is a 760 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: disaster and the O line camp lock a soul and 761 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: he's average in three yards to carry, take that one 762 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: to the bank. You can't take that one to the bank. 763 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: Damien Harris under eight d fifty point five rushing yards. 764 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: I'm going over there. I'm accounting on him for touchdowns 765 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: or catches. Over the past ten years, New England's leading rusher. 766 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: It's just ten years, though New England's reading leading rushers 767 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: averaged eight point nine rushing yards per season. They liked, 768 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: they like to do the whole You know this guy, Okay, 769 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: he had a good game this week. We're going to 770 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: change things up and this guy's gonna this team of 771 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: attack with James White. That's why you don't draft Patriots running. 772 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: But Garett Blunt probably never got that number there. I 773 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: think Harri is a better runner than a lot of 774 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: those guys. I think their line is a lot better, 775 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: but I don't that's the thing. And I think Ramandre 776 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: Stevenson is a little bit banged up now. Sony Michelle 777 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: might not make the team. You want Mac Jones to 778 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: be the quarterback, though at some point that would help 779 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: your about a lot and really help his touchdowns. For 780 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: it's a fantasy note. Gus Edwards the gust bus over 781 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: six hundred point five rushing yards. I think I'm going 782 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: under that. That's a big number, A big number. I 783 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: think Dobbin's role grows. Edwards doesn't break long ones. Edwards 784 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: has recorded over seven hundred rushing yards in each of 785 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: his three seasons. Yeah, I know he's been more productive 786 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: than people realize. And that was one mark ingram. That 787 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: was a three headed rack field. Right. I think they'renna 788 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: throw more this year, though, I think they're passing for 789 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: sentage will go up. They're still going to run the 790 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: ball bunch show. Yeah, I don't know. Six hundred point 791 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: five is a is a low number for for a 792 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: guy who's had seven hundred each of the last three years. 793 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: How many carries the averages per year because I mean, 794 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: how much how many times do we say money talks 795 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: they extended him. He gets a hundred and fifty carries 796 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: at least probably those backs. I mean that team always 797 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: under this new system, pretty much always leads the league 798 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: in yards per carry because of their unique system. I 799 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: mean it's not even necessarily the back. Yeah, Okay, I 800 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: guess you can convince me on that one. Ezekiel Elliott 801 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: over nine and a half rushing touchdowns under. I think 802 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: I go over that. It's a big number. It's a 803 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: big number, but we're talking about them being one of 804 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: the most potent offenses in the league. You have to 805 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: be concerned about those those receivers. He's gonna be the 806 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: short yard like I hope the short yardage hammer Emmett. 807 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: They've always had that, awesome dude. That's great for fantasy. 808 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: Just a big number. I mean the other one besides that, 809 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry or so betting for ten rushing touchdowns are 810 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: more seems like a losing proposition. That's not ten rushing 811 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: touch is his ten I was rushing. Okay, how about 812 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: this one, Antonio Gibson over eight and a half touchdowns total. 813 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: I think I'll go over. I'm a believer that's basically 814 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: one every other game. I just hope he's used in 815 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: the passing game instead of mkissic because mckissic is an 816 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: accomplished type guy that coaches love, that's hard to get 817 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: off the field. There's no upside Austin r under five 818 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: and a half rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I think so. He 819 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: won't be the short yardist guy. He has a score 820 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: from distance, catch a ton of balls, but who cares? 821 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't factor in this. Yeah, I think I'm under 822 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: on that. James three or four. James Conner over five 823 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: and a half rushing touchdowns and over five seventy five 824 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: and a half rushing yards going under on both playing 825 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: on a one year deal. I trust him to stay 826 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: healthy less than any player in the league. His projection 827 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: is seven eleven rushing yard and six and point six touchdowns. 828 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: I think he could be a very good September player. 829 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't trust him to be. I don't trust him either. 830 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. We're moving on to wide receivers over one thousand, 831 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: fifty point five receiving yards model of consistency. Yeah, Kenny 832 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: Golladay over one thousand, twenty five and a half receiving 833 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: yards under. I don't trust him, to be honest with him. 834 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: Robert Woods over one thousand point five receiving yards over. Yeah, 835 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a step above Cup too. He's averaged 836 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: a thousand and seventeen and a half yards per season, 837 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: sixty nine yards per game. If he does that this year, 838 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: blows that number away. Calvin Ridley under nine and a 839 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: half touchdown receptions. We've we already talked Atlanta touchdowns through 840 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: the air. I'm gonna go lower. I mean, scores one 841 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: every other game. He still doesn't get there. Yeah, he 842 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: scored seven and nine in his first two seasons. Kyle 843 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: Pitts over six and a half receiving touch said that 844 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: at seven. So that's we set that right. Over Odell 845 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: Beckham over five and a half touchdown receptions. I don't 846 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't trust him. I'll never convince you to draft. 847 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: Don't trust Nancy segments, but I'm gonna go over. I 848 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: don't trust him. And then the last one is Courtland 849 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: Sutton over five and a half touchdown receptions over seventy 850 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: five and a half receiving yards. I would rather go 851 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: the over on touchdowns, yeah, because I think he's he's 852 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: the target down there. I don't trust Teddy Bridgewater. If 853 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: that's who the quarterbacks gonna trust, tell me who they 854 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: tell me who the quarterback is gonna be. At least 855 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: lock will take chances down the field. I don't know 856 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: he'll have as many first downds in time possession. And 857 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: I gonna check down Teddy. I think they just have 858 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: too many good weapons. Yeah, I have a hard time 859 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: buying that passing game. The Steeler receivers aren't on here. Uh. 860 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: If you had to bet one of the Steeler receivers 861 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: to go over a thousand yards, who would that be? That? 862 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: Johnson clay I think Claypool's average yards per catch will 863 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: be higher. I mean that doesn't have catch any balls. 864 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: And if you had to go over eight and a 865 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: half touchdowns for one of the Steeler receivers, I think 866 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: i'd go under across the board. Across the board Claypool 867 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: at eleven last year. Yeah, I just think there's back, 868 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: sort of back to the two point conversion conversation. I 869 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: think they can spread it around. You know, it's an 870 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: advantage that. Sure the long ones could go to Claypool, 871 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: but he may get a short one or two. But 872 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: Harris is a good option. Fire muth catch a few more, 873 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: you know over under on Harris touchdowns total total dozen' 874 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: I was gonna say eleven. Yeah, so st that at 875 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: eleven and a half. I bet he gets four receiving Yeah, 876 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: I think short yardage will be a lot more about 877 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 1: what's just hammered in there. Then let's get cute and hopefully. 878 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah so I thought, yeah, so, if you're betting those things, 879 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: you go ahead and touchdown. Use those number Ben touchdowns 880 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: at thirty three last year. I'm going on sad a 881 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 1: game and sad a game. True. I'm going under that, though, 882 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: because I think short yardage are gonna run it more. 883 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: I would put his number. I think that's fair. Yeah, 884 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean a guy his age I would think has 885 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: a little less chance of playing all seventeen. But I 886 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: don't think you've actored that in much so. Anyways, those 887 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: are the over unders from ESPN. He is Matt Williamson. 888 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm dale lally that that'll do it for the first 889 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: hour here on the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We're 890 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We'll be back with our two 891 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: right after this