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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. A CNN poll says seventy two percent

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Speaker 1: of independence think the government is intentionally withholding information on

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Speaker 1: the Epstein files. No, really, we have such a great

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Speaker 1: show for you today. The Lincoln Project's own Rick Wilson

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Speaker 1: joins us to talk about Trump's Board of Peace, bribe

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Speaker 1: scheme and everything else. Then we'll talk to journalist Laura

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Speaker 1: Jedid about getting hired by ICE. I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing story. But first we have the news.

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Speaker 2: So, Molly, it's going to be so bad in Minnesota

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Speaker 2: this week. Trump is threatening to send in fifteen hundred troops.

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Speaker 2: And we learned from new report of the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: not successful finding of people who are here illegally, just

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Speaker 2: reckless abandon and this is Stephen Miller's does and it's

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Speaker 2: wreaking havoc on America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, first of all, Christy Noman, Corey Lewandowski are

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Speaker 1: very involved in this too, So let us not just

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Speaker 1: flame terrible Stephen Miller, like Christy Noman was on television

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Speaker 1: today lying about this. Here's the interesting thing about what's

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Speaker 1: happening here. There is a population in Minnesota of illegal

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Speaker 1: immigrants that stands legally at two point two percent. That

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Speaker 1: is very small. Okay, more than ninety percent of the

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Speaker 1: state's Somali population is the group that's like the one

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Speaker 1: that Trump wants to get, right, the group because of

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Speaker 1: that incredibly dumb YouTube video by Nick Shirley. That group

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Speaker 1: they are actually have permanent legal status, so you may

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Speaker 1: arrest them, but you have no case against them. Now,

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Speaker 1: ICE doesn't really give a fuck, as we all know,

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Speaker 1: they are America and citizens and ICE detention centers. Right now,

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Speaker 1: they've killed people. I mean, this thing has spiraled so

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Speaker 1: out of control. But I want to talk about why

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Speaker 1: we're in this moment. And we're in this moment because

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is so emboldened that he has completely given

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Speaker 1: up listening to anyone, with the exception of maybe very

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Speaker 1: rich friends at mar A Lago, Right. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think like the Greenland thing is clearly Ronald Lauder's idea,

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Speaker 1: because we know this from reporting that they had suggested

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Speaker 1: to end NATO, which Trump has always been interested in.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's worse, like looking at Trump's

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Speaker 1: emboldenness and just the way he is acting out in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: and look, why is he acting out of Minnesota. The

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Speaker 1: governor is someone who ran as vice president against him

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons, because of Tim Walls. Another

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Speaker 1: wants to target smallies. I want to talk about like

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Speaker 1: what is happening at this moment because Trump isn't a

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Speaker 1: feedback loop that he's sort of a victim of his algorithm, right, So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much time he spends online,

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Speaker 1: So when he does things, he doesn't get a normal response.

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Speaker 1: So he is probably not seeing these poles, or maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some reporting this week that apparently they

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Speaker 1: Right, and they're just getting worse and worse. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to talk about sort of how we got here.

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Speaker 1: Trump was a little bit obsessed with Tim Walls. He

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Speaker 1: ran against him. Tim Walls called him weird. Trump two

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Speaker 1: just like personal grievents. You know, he's still mad about

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Speaker 1: And you know, looking of three thousand federal officers operating

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Speaker 2: App Yeah, agreed, but to give people a ray of sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Elections do change things. And Virginia, which is arguably a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Governor Youngkin wore a fleece vest and won

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Speaker 1: by I don't know two three points, and everyone in

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Speaker 2: He's really where the party's going.

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Speaker 1: innate misogyny of American political reporting, right. That other guy

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Speaker 1: so this is an Executive Order fifty seven, ending Virginia's

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Speaker 1: And why did she do this? Because most Americans don't

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Speaker 1: abolish ized. And why is that? Because we don't want

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Speaker 1: Spamberger is showing is just how unpopular Ice is. And

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Speaker 2: Even three days ago we had Reuben Diego saying people

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Speaker 1: People don't want a militia locking up. I mean that

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Speaker 1: This is about bullying and tormenting and hurting people who

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Speaker 2: I know, you've just been sitting around, you've been doing

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Speaker 1: I know you're shocked to hear that this administration, known

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Speaker 1: It has three different ideas in them. One is give

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we should say this plan has literally no

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Speaker 2: It's just bullshit to pretend they did something.

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Speaker 1: There's no plan to pass it, there's no world in

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Speaker 1: which it passes, there's no want to pass it. This

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Speaker 1: is all just completely something to sort of duck and

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Speaker 1: the Enemy's List.

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Speaker 2: Rick Wilson, Yes, Molly, how are you today?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a billion dollars? Because if you have

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars you can sit on the Board of Peace.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'd have to check that. I'm not really positive.

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Speaker 3: I've got a full billy laying around, but yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Board of Piece. I don't understand why Trump thinks this

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Speaker 3: I think she's governor and senator and Archbishop of Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: She's known for that.

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Speaker 3: She now runs the all the radio free Europe Radio

436
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Speaker 3: Liberty broadcasting around the world. They shut off Radio Liberty

437
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Speaker 3: broadcasting into Iran, so the Iranians aren't getting any news

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Speaker 3: because the government has shut down all the television and

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Speaker 3: radio on the Internet. We could be broadcasting to them

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Speaker 3: on a big, fat, booming FM radio station that sits

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Speaker 3: our AAM radio station that sits right there in Kuwait,

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Speaker 3: just across the golf forty five miles from Iran. We

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Speaker 3: could be telling them what's going on, but she shut

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Speaker 3: it down.

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Speaker 1: Broken, like someone who's had some involvement in this night.

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Speaker 3: I may have a time or two.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if this thing falls apart at this government, what

448
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Speaker 1: will be the thing that does it? Is it going

449
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Speaker 1: to be the incompetence or is it going to be

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Speaker 1: the second order of facts? Like they do something that

451
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Speaker 1: sets something that ends something look, or it will be something else.

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Speaker 3: Iran's government is poised to fail for a million reasons.

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Speaker 3: They are they are geriatric. Sounds familiar both you know

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Speaker 3: they are they are, they are, they are tired. They

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Speaker 3: have reached a point where where where the people of

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Speaker 3: Iran are not getting any benefit out of this supposed

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Speaker 3: Islamic revolution. It's a It's a country full of really

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Speaker 3: educated young people right now, right and if Iran, if

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Speaker 3: Iran was was a a non theocratic hellhole, it would

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Speaker 3: be a world economic power pretty quickly. But they've got energy,

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Speaker 3: they've got resources, they've got technology. This is not a

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Speaker 3: country that is that is being held back by its people.

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Speaker 3: It's being held back by its government. Right, it's not

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Speaker 3: a rack.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is undermining our government?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what's undermining our government is this Cowardice.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've got every Democratic senator out there saying,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, Ice is so terrible. Ice is so terrible.

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Speaker 3: But we can't possibly do a shutdown fight over Ice because.

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Speaker 1: They should shut down because then we.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't get our transportation money this quarter. Get the fuck

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Speaker 3: out of here. Chuck Schumer is not a wartime consiicular area.

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Speaker 3: I said it a thousand times, and I know I

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Speaker 3: know they're mad at me for saying it. Okay, why

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Speaker 3: I'm whatever.

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Speaker 1: At least I didn't scream at you.

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Speaker 3: No, not today. But the idea that Democrats are going

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Speaker 3: to just let Ice have a budget increase if you

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Speaker 3: fund Ice right now and don't shut this shit down,

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Speaker 3: if you fund Ice for the rest of this year, folks,

482
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Speaker 3: you were giving Ice the money to steal the goddamn

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six election. That's it. If you were not

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Speaker 3: in BC as all these I mean, this is a

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Speaker 3: hill I've died on over and over again. But these

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Speaker 3: were Republicans who say they're they're not in favor of

487
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Speaker 3: extreme big government are muttering to these as, Oh, well,

488
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to back the Greenland invasion and I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to back any more of this craziness in

490
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Speaker 3: Minnesota until Trump starts tweeting about them. Then they break

491
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Speaker 3: like a like a thin red Josh Hawley this week

492
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Speaker 3: took about one nasty glance from Trump before he was like, yes, nast,

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Speaker 3: I will do what you want. It's unbelievable. I mean,

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Speaker 3: our our leadership class in this country are full of

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Speaker 3: of the most cowardly people that have ever burdened this

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Speaker 3: nation with their with their retention of their elected offices.

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Speaker 1: You would just need for Republicans just this whole fucking

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Speaker 1: project down, That is correct, Mkowski, Collins, McConnell, Connell. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Langford Cassidy would be another one, but Likesidy's a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit haunted by guilt right now because he he

501
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Speaker 3: is the guy who allowed a serial killer to become

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Speaker 3: the head of Health and Human Services.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cassidy and doctor who has allowed But yes, I think.

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Speaker 3: That's there are ways to stop it. But I don't

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Speaker 3: want to hear any fucking complaining from a single Democratic

506
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Speaker 3: senator who is not out there front end center saying

507
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Speaker 3: We're going to shut it down until we add into

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Speaker 3: this CR restrictions on the things that ICE can do

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Speaker 3: to American citizens. We're going to add into the CR

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Speaker 3: that they may not purchase surveillance data of American citizens.

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Speaker 3: We're going to add into the CR that ICE may

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Speaker 3: not ask for an American citizen's ID, and that they

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Speaker 3: may not presume but because someone has an accent or

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Speaker 3: has brown skin that they are not an American. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this would be so easy to do and such a

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Speaker 3: such a simple simple operation to do, and they won't

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Speaker 3: do it. They will not do it. This is this

518
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Speaker 3: caucus is so you know you have to There's a

519
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Speaker 3: famous phrase that that Winston Churchill said during World War Two.

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Speaker 3: And I have a real poster, an actual poster from

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Speaker 3: the subwhat from the tube that where they were plastered

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Speaker 3: all over the tube in World War two. It's Winston

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Speaker 3: church Are looking at the camera and saying, deserve victory,

524
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Speaker 3: deserve victory. The Democrats do not deserve victory right now

525
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Speaker 3: because they will not fight. You cannot have a victory

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Speaker 3: unless you will actually go and fight. And they just

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Speaker 3: they keep telling us over and over again, Nah, that's

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Speaker 3: too hard. No, we don't want to do that. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm We're we don't want to We don't We're worried

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Speaker 3: that somehow it could be, it could be it could

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Speaker 3: be bad for us, that people might be mad that

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Speaker 3: we that we shut the government down. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're probably going to be more mad that you've allowed

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Speaker 3: an ongoing situation of violent action against American citizens on

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Speaker 3: the streets of our country. That's my guess. Rick Wilson, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in a mood, as you can tell.

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Speaker 1: Laura Jadid is a freelance journalist for outlets like Rolling Stone, Portego,

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Speaker 1: and The New Republic Welcome Too Fast Politics, Laura.

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Speaker 4: Hi, great to be here. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so explained us what you did and why it

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Speaker 1: is iconic. Go.

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Speaker 4: So, the intent was to just go to an ice

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Speaker 4: hiring expo.

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Speaker 5: I was advertising same day hiring, and I thought I

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Speaker 5: would apply and then write about the process of applying.

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Speaker 5: And I expected to have this be a very short

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Speaker 5: article because while I can cobble together a pretty good

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Speaker 5: skills based resume that looks plausible at first glance, I'm

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Speaker 5: a veteran, I've deployed Afghanistan. I've also really googleable. My

550
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Speaker 5: name is extremely unusual. The minute you tight me into

551
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Speaker 5: any kind of computer, it's instantly obvious that you know.

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Speaker 5: I'm very vocally against the Trump administration. I am very

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Speaker 5: vocally against ICE. I have been for years.

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Speaker 4: I am not subtle.

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Speaker 5: And so the assumption was I was going to go in,

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Speaker 5: I was going to apply, I was going to go

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Speaker 5: through the interview process. I was going to leave before

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Speaker 5: they ran my name, and then I would hopefully never

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Speaker 5: hear from them again, and that would be the end

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 4: That was not the end of it.

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Speaker 1: I really want the full story here. Explain to me

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Speaker 1: what this job fair is. Sort of give us a

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Speaker 1: TikTok here.

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Speaker 5: Basically this is it was a two day hiring event

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Speaker 5: in the Arlington Esports Arena out in Texas. This esports

567
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Speaker 5: arena kind of has very tron vibes in it, and

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Speaker 5: it's definitely meant to accommodate of thousands. There were not

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Speaker 5: crowds of thousands. We all had to sign up for

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Speaker 5: time slots, which would imply that they were reb expecting

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Speaker 5: crowds of thousands, but that was not the case. Were

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Speaker 5: there a lot of people there, I would say probably

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Speaker 5: no more than one hundred and fifty at ever at

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Speaker 5: any given time.

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Speaker 4: I mean the place echoed. You know, it was so empty,

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Speaker 4: even in this economy.

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Speaker 1: You know, did they look like you and me? Did

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Speaker 1: they look like they were proud boys? I mean, what

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Speaker 1: was the crowd like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was almost entirely man, I'm sure that

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Speaker 5: will come as a shock to everybody. It was also

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Speaker 5: like I'd say, the three kind of genres of people

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Speaker 5: mostly were like the kind of like thick necked police

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Speaker 5: types who they look like they do steroids, but they

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Speaker 5: don't know how to work out, you know, kind of the.

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Speaker 4: Gut they got that thing going on.

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Speaker 5: You got a few guys who look like they take

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Speaker 5: stories and do know how to work out with a

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Speaker 5: big enough special forces beards, kind of the wannabe guys.

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Speaker 4: And then you get pencil neck girks. There were a

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Speaker 4: lot of those two.

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of the distribution of people pretty evenly

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Speaker 5: split between white and Hispanic people and you know other you.

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Speaker 4: Know, a few other races to just round out the picture.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and almost no women, almost no women, very

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Speaker 1: very few cool interviews.

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Speaker 4: You I walk into this.

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Speaker 5: Giant, cavernous space with very few people in it, I

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Speaker 5: get into there are six people in line for the interview.

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Speaker 5: The only line I stood in all day interview was

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Speaker 5: with this very normal seeming middle aged woman who sat

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Speaker 5: down across from me over a folding card table and

603
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Speaker 5: asked me some very basic questions. You know, name, date

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Speaker 5: of birth, how long we're in the military or retired military.

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Speaker 4: Where do you want to serve? That's about it. It

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Speaker 4: took about six minutes.

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Speaker 3: That was the interview.

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Speaker 5: It was just basic information, no no real curiosity about

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Speaker 5: any other anything else, why I wanted to join anything.

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Speaker 5: So she fills out her little paper, puts my resume

611
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Speaker 5: on top of it, and says, Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 5: get this process for prioritizing people with prior law enforcement experience.

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Speaker 5: So you might not hear back today, but keep an

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Speaker 5: eye on email over the next couple of days and

615
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Speaker 5: we'll get back to you with an offer.

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Speaker 4: And I said, cool, that.

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Speaker 1: Was it, and then you go home, all right, so

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Speaker 1: finish the story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to be fair.

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Speaker 5: I did also talk to an ice officer, which I

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Speaker 5: talked about in the piece, but that was not part

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Speaker 5: of the interview process.

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Speaker 4: That was optional. So we have our little chat and

624
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: then yeah, that I go home to New York.

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Speaker 1: Just tell me about the ice officer you talked to.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty revealing in some ways.

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Speaker 5: As soon as I sat down, you wanted to be

628
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Speaker 5: very clear, Look, you're not going to be out there,

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Speaker 5: you know, kicking down doors right away. We're probably gonna

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Speaker 5: have to do a paperwork position.

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Speaker 4: You know, be patient.

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Speaker 1: You'll get to kick down doors later.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's later. You know, you got to you

634
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Speaker 4: got to work up to the cool stuff. I guess.

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Speaker 5: And I, you know, I expressed because my background in

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Speaker 5: the military is is analysis work. I was an intelligence

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Speaker 5: analyst and collector. So I was like, well, with my background,

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Speaker 5: paper pushing kind of makes sense. And as demeanor kind

639
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Speaker 5: of changed, and he was like, okay, well, look to

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Speaker 5: be clear, we do want as many people out there

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Speaker 5: with badges and guns as possible. And he also, I mean,

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Speaker 5: he said at one point even just like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I talked to a lot of guys who were just

644
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Speaker 5: so eager to get out there and put guys in cuffs,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just trying to let them know that they

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Speaker 5: need to be patient. So that's the kind of guys

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Speaker 5: that are coming to these apparently, which is not a surprise, probably,

648
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Speaker 5: but yeah.

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Speaker 1: And they need to be patient because eventually they'll get

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Speaker 1: to lock up there, breverren No.

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Speaker 5: Eventually the time will come where you'll be able to

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Speaker 5: throw a flash bang into a car full of children.

653
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Speaker 4: You'll get there. Patient.

654
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: So did you think when you talked to this guy,

655
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: did you feel like this was a person who was

656
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: able to sell ice to new recruits?

657
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Are not?

658
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: Really?

659
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, Yeah, I mean I think he was, you know,

660
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: I think he was trying to provide information so people

661
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: wouldn't be disappointed when they couldn't hurt people immediately. But also,

662
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he'd been an icy set for

663
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: ten years, like me. He joined the military ride out

664
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: of high school. Like me, he left and wanted nothing

665
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: to do with it, but he had trouble assimilating, as

666
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: a lot of veterans do, and ended up gravitating to

667
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 5: law enforcement and then got into this. And you know,

668
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: he very much seemed to believe that he was doing

669
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: the right thing and that he was getting good results

670
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 5: and taking care of bad people. And I disagree on

671
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 5: every possible level, but he certainly, you know, it was

672
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 5: it was a pretty good.

673
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: Face that he was presenting.

674
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: So so let's talk about what happens next. You go

675
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: home and what happens next.

676
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: You know, for the first couple of days, I keep

677
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 5: an eye on my inbox, like why not? And then

678
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: I get slack and I'm going to be soper honest,

679
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 5: might my inbox is a disaster?

680
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: Have no idea what that must feeling.

681
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: It got not relatable, I know.

682
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: So when the kind oftive selection email arrived, I didn't

683
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: see it and it sank to the bottom of my inbox.

684
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 5: I found it later when I was piecing everything back together.

685
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: But it was basically like, hey, you know, we're ready

686
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: to move on to the next step. Please accept this

687
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: within forty eight hours. Here's some paperwork. We needed to

688
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 5: get that back to us quickly. And the paperwork was

689
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: what you would expect. It was like, you know, here's

690
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 5: a forum for the beginning of the background check. Here

691
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 5: is an affidavit that you've never convicted a domestic violence crime.

692
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: Well, you're not allowed to have done domestic violence and

693
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: get hired there purely not.

694
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 5: Look, you know, I mean, the way the story ends,

695
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: it's possible they you know, that might be a waivable problem. Yeah,

696
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: you know, just so the basic the paperwork that you

697
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: would expect, right, and I didn't see it, so I

698
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: didn't feel that any of it. Didn't accept the offer,

699
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 5: and this should have been the end of it, like

700
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: I shouldn't even know that email exists.

701
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: It should just be buried in my inbox. But that's

702
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: not how it ended.

703
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: A few weeks later, I get another email, which I

704
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: do see, that says, hey, you know, for the next

705
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: step of your ICE application, we needed to take a

706
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: drug test.

707
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, unfortunate timing.

708
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: You know, I live in New York City, cannabis is legal,

709
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 5: and I had smoked up like six days before the test,

710
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: so my chances of passing this are very low to

711
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 5: non existent.

712
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: But why not waste some of their money, right?

713
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 5: So I go in and I do take the drug test,

714
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 5: and now I'm expecting to hear bath because when you

715
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: fail the drug test, they have to call you.

716
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: So now I'm waiting and I'm waiting and I'm not hearing.

717
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: And about nine days and I get curious and a

718
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: friend is like, hey, you know, you could just check

719
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 5: the portal, and I'm like, oh, I could just check

720
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 5: the portal, So I log onto USA jobs. I go

721
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 5: to the ice Portal, and what I find is that,

722
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 5: according to the Ice Portal, a final offer not tendative,

723
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: A final offer has been sent.

724
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: I have accepted this final offer and my entry on duty.

725
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 5: My EOD date was listed as September thirtieth, twenty twenty five.

726
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: I was checking this on October third, twenty twenty five, so,

727
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: unknownst to me, you'd.

728
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Started working there already.

729
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had a little welcome to Ice banner and everything.

730
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: It was quite something.

731
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: What do you think happened there?

732
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: It's a really good question, and we'll probably never know

733
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 5: because DHS doesn't care. They've simply dismissed this as a

734
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: lie instead of being concerned. It's like, even if you

735
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: thought Ice was great, I would think they would be

736
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 5: concerned about this.

737
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: You're paying someone to work at a job they're not

738
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: at right, Like, I mean, you have billions of dollars,

739
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: but you don't have Yeah, gone.

740
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: Well just yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know

741
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 5: what the next steps would have been. I'm sure there

742
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 5: would have been in processing. You know, they didn't have

743
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: information to pay me even. But like the two theories

744
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 5: i've heard advanced a this could be an AI thing.

745
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: I know they're trying to implement that everywhere.

746
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: We know that that sucks.

747
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's possible some AI decided to just go ahead

748
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: and advance me. Or it could be fraud. It could

749
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 5: be a way to try to inflate their numbers, or

750
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: could be any number of things. But those are the

751
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: two that make the most sense to me.

752
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: And either way it's.

753
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 5: Concerning because you know, look, this could just be me

754
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 5: that maybe it is a glipse that only happened to

755
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 5: my application and no one else. But it seems more

756
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: likely that this has happened to other people, which means

757
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: that ICE doesn't know who ICE is hired.

758
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: You know, it's very possible Ice is just putting people

759
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: out without a background check.

760
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: So there are two interesting things I want to talk

761
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: too about with this. One is ICE is hiring people

762
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: without doing anything right, background trick, chug check, any of

763
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: that stuff. There's something really off here, right they're hiring

764
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: people or not hiring I mean, there's no way to

765
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: get to the bottom, mothers, because they just lie. So

766
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: tell us what I said about you.

767
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I posted this story, it blew up, and

768
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: then eventually they came back. You know, on their official

769
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 5: channel X the everything up. They went ahead and responded

770
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 5: and said, this is a lazy lie. You know a

771
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 5: lot of people get a tentative offer that's in no

772
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 5: way a permanent offer, and they basically, you know, outlined

773
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 5: the email that I did receive the tentative offer that

774
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 5: I received, which was not the point of the article

775
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: and would not have been an article if that's all

776
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: that it had happened.

777
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: So they didn't really address the actual claims of the article.

778
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 5: So I just went ahead and responded with the screen

779
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: grab video that I did of the portal with the

780
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: text sure about that, And they haven't responded.

781
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: The video is pretty clear.

782
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 5: You can see it on x or Blue Sky, which

783
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: I recommend seeing it on Blue Sky, but either way

784
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 5: it's pretty clear to.

785
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: Be Yeah, what do you think is going on here?

786
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: From what you have observed? Do you think that this

787
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: is an organization that can't hire the numbers it needs

788
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: to hire? Do you think, I mean, what do you

789
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: think is the sort of how we got here?

790
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: I mean, no matter how you slice it, it's bad.

791
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: I mean almost best case scenario, they're inflating their numbers.

792
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: That would be a best case scenario. Here, I think

793
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: worst case scenario, they're just passing people through. You know,

794
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: if I'd been paying close for attention, if I'd submitted

795
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: that paperwork.

796
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: I might not.

797
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 5: You know, it might all look a lot more normal

798
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: than it does. It might just look like I got accepted.

799
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 5: I mean, my background check was listed as completed. It

800
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 5: was listed as completed three days in the future. I'm

801
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 5: quite sure they didn't do a background check. I didn't

802
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: fill out the paperwork for it. They didn't catch some

803
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 5: fairly big red flags. But you know how many other

804
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: people are just getting pasted with with no background check

805
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 5: and no domestic violence affidavit like you were mentioning earlier.

806
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 5: You know how many people with domestic violence convictions are

807
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: running around our streets and masks with guns and hurting

808
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 5: people very badly. I mean, this organization wasn't good before

809
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 5: Trump got in, But flooding Ice with people that are

810
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: completely unvetted and just giving them guns and quote unquote

811
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 5: absolute immunity that this seems bad.

812
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also I wonder, like it strikes me

813
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: that there's a tension here, which is government agency with

814
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: billions of dollars trying to make numbers that the Trump

815
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: administration wants them to make and lack of people who

816
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: want to do this job. Like the economy is we

817
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: are in I'm not a person who's saying this. This

818
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: is known. We are in a hiring recession. So it

819
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: strikes me the fact that you were in Texas. Where

820
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: were you in Texas?

821
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Arlington is right between Dallas and Fort Worth's. I mean,

822
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 5: look those are you know, those are like liberal cities.

823
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: That is very much within driving distance for a lot

824
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: of very conservative areas.

825
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just didn't have people coming.

826
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: No, No, I mean it was honestly, it was kind

827
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: of comforting.

828
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: You know.

829
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: This is so deeply un American, in my opinion, and

830
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 5: people don't want any part of it. Even in this economy,

831
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: even with a fIF fifty thousand dollars bonus and student

832
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 5: loan forgiveness on the table, people are like, no, I'm

833
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: not doing this to people.

834
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Like they're as popular as they're ever going to be.

835
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was seeing this morning the polls are beginning

836
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: to come out after the murder of Rene Good. The

837
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: swing against ICE as an institution is dramatic and overdue.

838
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 5: People don't like this. Nobody wants this.

839
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: Except for real siccos yeah, she was alive when the paramatics.

840
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: Got there and they wouldn't let her.

841
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And tell me what else this experience has

842
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: sort of opened the door to in your head.

843
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: I feel like it's good that we're discussing this.

844
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: I think that on the surface, what DHS is saying,

845
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: you know, this idea that you know, people can have

846
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: absolute immunity and be anonymous on the streets like that

847
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: by itself, even if they were vetting people, is horrific.

848
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: But I think this maybe adds.

849
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: Something that really underscores just how awful and how weird

850
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 5: this moment. Is this extremely sloppy at best hiring practice.

851
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 5: So they really are just picking people up off the street,

852
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 5: or at least too it appeared that they might be

853
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 5: just picking people up off the street, anyone with a pulse,

854
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 5: you know, making the push papers for six months maybe

855
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 5: and then putting them on the street.

856
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: And we're seeing the results of that.

857
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: We're seeing what it looks like when the government gives

858
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: the kind of bottom of the barrel unlimited ability to

859
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: brutalize and abduct and kill.

860
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: This is not normal. This is not a few bad apples.

861
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: This you can't even make that argument, this is just

862
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 5: a completely broken organization in a completely broken administration, and

863
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 5: this is an emergency, Like this isn't a small problem.

864
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 5: This is an emergency. And I've been saying this every

865
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: chance I get. States have a force for emergencies that

866
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: threatened the lives of the citizens of the States. It's

867
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: called the National Guard. And it is frankly pastime that governors,

868
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 5: especially Tim Mall's, calls them up to protect their citizen

869
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 5: to elect them, to protect.

870
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 4: Them, to keep them safe.

871
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 5: And these unknown, masked, probably unvetted thugs are killing people.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Tim Walls is not calling up

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Speaker 1: the National Guard.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of denial.

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Speaker 5: I think there's this idea that if we can weather

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Speaker 5: this storm and show people how bad it is, then

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Speaker 5: like the tide will turn and then it will stop somehow.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he talked about tribunals in twenty eight he

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Speaker 5: talked about the midterms, and it's like, these guys aren't

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Speaker 5: following the law anymore. They're not releasing the Epstein files

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Speaker 5: they were supposed to release, They're not following any kind

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Speaker 5: of protocol. They're openly applauding the summary execution of civilians

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Speaker 5: on the street. What makes people think they're going to

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Speaker 5: listen to the midterm results. I mean, we had the

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Speaker 5: last person who joined the house, Mike Johnson, didn't sign

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Speaker 5: them in for like a month. We've already seen how

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Speaker 5: this is going to go. But I think there's this

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Speaker 5: like people are really clinging to this final grasp of

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Speaker 5: hope that maybe somehow there's the way out of this.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't involve calling up the guard or confronting these

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Speaker 5: people on the ground, and I understand the appeal of that,

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Speaker 5: but I just don't see inn the evidence of that

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Speaker 5: being the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No I don't either. Laura, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for having me appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: No, no moment Fullick Wilson, Oh john Fast.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of this small country that has very

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Speaker 1: few residents and is the part of Denmark.

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Speaker 3: I have heard of this country, and I will say

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Speaker 3: it is not considered a world headquarters for terrorism, WMDs

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Speaker 3: or anything basically other than ice and glaciers. But apparently

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Speaker 3: it's going to be the fifty first state of America.

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Speaker 1: I saw this photo of the greenlandic PM smoking a

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Speaker 1: cigarette and looking the way we look every fucking day

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Speaker 1: in this country discuss.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because they're realizing that they're not dealing with rational actors,

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Speaker 3: They're not dealing with regular people. They're dealing with Trump

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Speaker 3: and trump Ism, and it is by its nature illogical,

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Speaker 3: unapproachable by reason or by fact, and they they're realizing

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Speaker 3: that they're going to have to fight this thing out

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Speaker 3: among a global community that can't handle Trump either. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: I think the upside of this is Peter Schiff and

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Speaker 3: others are now positing if Trump invades Greenland again, it

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Speaker 3: is a permission slip for China to therefore invade Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: If you want to know something, the global economy fears,

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Speaker 3: hates and is absolutely in a state of panic about

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Speaker 3: worse than anything here, it is China invading Taiwan. The

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Speaker 3: entire global economy will go absolutely tango uniform if China

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Speaker 3: invades Taiwan and Trump is empowering all of this madness,

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Speaker 3: and he's got the world economy on a cliff, and

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Speaker 3: it will not This will not end well for America

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Speaker 3: if we are the ones who caused it.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if we stop being the reserve currency,

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Speaker 1: which I unfortunately for me know about. It will mean

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Speaker 1: that everything in America will get more expensive. You think

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Speaker 1: tariffs are expensive.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely mall. You couldn't be more correct. It will be

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable economic hit that we do on ourselves. We

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Speaker 3: will be hurting. We'll be hurting the American not just consumers.

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Speaker 3: The entire economy will go belly up. We will not

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Speaker 3: have the country we think we have. And look, Trump

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Speaker 3: may not care about any of this. I heard this

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Speaker 3: from somebody close to the Trump universe on Friday who said,

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Speaker 3: they know how bad it is, and they know the

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Speaker 3: poles are terrible, but they also know that Trump's people

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Speaker 3: they believe what Trump tells them, not what the Poles say,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of mortifying.

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Speaker 2: Honestly.

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Speaker 1: There was really good reporting from the Times about how

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Speaker 1: Trump had canceled this water project in Colorado. It had

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Speaker 1: interviews from Trump's people who said, well, they've wasted too

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Speaker 1: much money on this. It's your drinking water team, and

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Speaker 1: you're making up a reasonon why it's okay that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't give a fuck about you.

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Speaker 3: He would have funded the program, cifically, hunted it down

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Speaker 3: and took it out because Bobert hasn't been in his.

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Speaker 1: Mind because Bobert wasn't loyal about the Ebstein Files.

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Speaker 3: Right because Bobert said, I'm not going to be a

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Speaker 3: part of something that covers up the Ebstein Files. God

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Speaker 3: knows the fact that this is where she decided to

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Speaker 3: find religion is a puzzle, but it's a true thing

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Speaker 3: that she's under the gun with this program that the

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Speaker 3: whole state of Colorado would have benefitted from because she.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't being nice to him.

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Speaker 3: Rick Wilson, Mollie John Fast See you next week.

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Speaker 1: Will you come back?

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Speaker 3: You know I will.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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