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Speaker 1: I listened to the black guy who tips podcasts Because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen a hot.

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Speaker 2: The boys scrambled out of the tree got on their knees.

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Speaker 2: Because the worst thing that could happen to a colored

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Speaker 3: Was acting up.

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Speaker 2: There would be no appeals. The punishment swift and physical.

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Speaker 2: The arbitrary nature of grown people's wrath gave colored children

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Speaker 2: practice for life in the cast system, which is why

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Speaker 2: parents forced to train their children in the ways of

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Speaker 2: subservience treated their children as the white people running things

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Speaker 2: treated them. It was preparation for the lower cast role

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Speaker 2: children were expected to have mastered by puberty. For a

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Speaker 2: young colored boy in the South, the cast barrier is

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Speaker 2: an ever present, solid fact. John Dollard, an anthropologists studying

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Speaker 2: the region's cast system routed at the time his education

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Speaker 3: Until he has learned to make some adjustment to it.

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Speaker 2: The negro must haul down his social expectations and resign

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Speaker 2: himself to a relative emobility. Indeed, breaking from protocol could

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Speaker 2: get people like Joe killed. Under Jim Crow, only white

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Speaker 2: people could sit in judgment of a colored person on trial.

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Speaker 2: White hearsay had more weight than a colored eye witness.

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Speaker 2: Colored people had to put on the show of cheerful

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Speaker 2: subservience and then questioning an unquestioning obedience in the presence

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Speaker 2: of line. If children didn't learn their place, they could

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Speaker 2: the parents could do nothing to save them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Black Autists podcast.

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Speaker 2: Your host Rod and Caring, and we're alive on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: for real this time. Really do some podcasting Tuesday, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the real Tuesday. You can find us on iTunes, Stitcher, Poblematic,

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Speaker 2: all those places that you find different podcasts. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you for listening, leaving us five star reviews on iTunes

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Speaker 2: and Stitcher, especially so we can read those on Saturday

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Speaker 2: morning and give you feedback. Doesn't matter what area of

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Speaker 2: So leave us a nice five star review and we'll

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Speaker 2: read it on the air. The official weapon of the

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Speaker 2: show is unofficial sport, Come out Bullvard Extreme And that

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Speaker 2: excerpt that I read was from the Warmth of other Son,

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Speaker 2: The Warmth of other Sons, which I had talked about

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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. This is I'm reading this

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Speaker 2: book by Isabelle Wilkerson, and it's just flying off the pages.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing book.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, because some of the a lot of the stuff,

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Speaker 4: well not a lot, but some of the stuff you

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Speaker 4: read about, it just touches home to let you know

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Speaker 4: that a lot of your wife experiences and some of

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Speaker 4: the things you haven't experienced. This you just thought these

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Speaker 4: I'm not crazy. I'm not a ruin. Take this ship's

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Speaker 4: been happening for a long time. I might not have

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Speaker 4: still might not have the words for it as an adult,

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Speaker 4: you know, because I'm constantly running and growing, get evolving.

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Speaker 4: But then you go, okay, I'm not crazy, Like I

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Speaker 4: remember this happened when I was a child. Uh what

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Speaker 4: was the name of that store? Was it People's Yes,

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Speaker 4: peoples of the old school store. Uh, it was down

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Speaker 4: Freedom All which now was torn down. I think it's

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Speaker 4: But when we got ready to leave, the people, my

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Speaker 4: I didn't evenally even understand what she was going off about,

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Speaker 4: This really got irritated, you know. But you know, parents

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Speaker 4: People just assume that children are dumb. Children are small people.

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Speaker 4: they're a dog or cat or chair. They treat children

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Speaker 4: in this world almost don't have rights, quote unquote. You

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Speaker 2: Definitely thought think about some of the cliches that I've

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Speaker 3: Because I love you, I hit you because h These.

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Speaker 2: White people are gonna, you know, if I don't beat you,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how difficult that is to pledge to.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time I was, I did get whoopings.

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Speaker 2: that's not what you do to somebody you love. But

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I make a joke, but I'm serious

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Speaker 2: to a certain extent. A whoopan probably has saved my life.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's probably been a few times where I was about

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Speaker 2: that's that's the kind of shit you get.

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Speaker 3: A whooping for. All Right, y'all have a good one.

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Speaker 3: I'm going back home tonight, you know.

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Speaker 4: And maybe you hear my mama's voice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like maybe you hope that, uh that you

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Speaker 3: it's something to think.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just to me, it's just something disheartening about

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Speaker 3: And life is a trial for black people, and white

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Speaker 2: And you know, I just accept that that's something that

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Speaker 3: You know, we don't talk about this like you know

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Speaker 2: We talk about it like, oh my god, I remember

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Speaker 3: Like every black person know it.

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Speaker 4: And it's almost like we talk about it as veterans

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Speaker 2: I'm sure some psychologists somewhere listeners shit like that's not healthy,

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Speaker 3: That's that is how it is. O't connected with people

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Speaker 4: And when I said it's like veterans of war, no,

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Speaker 4: When that's that's that was my definition of I'm not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, you you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: So right, maybe it is exactly like what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You know, I definitely think all black people that got

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna tell wait.

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Speaker 5: Till your mama get home, all right, And what's even

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Speaker 4: And one reason why I didn't I'm just gonna keep real.

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Speaker 4: One reason why I didn't like to go out and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one time I got a whooping for some ship

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Speaker 4: Take a look. It's a love book, a reading rainbow.

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Speaker 3: Let's see. More information came out about the cap Nick stuff.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I be waiting on shit, because

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I can just wait until one

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00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: of these motherfucking journalizing, enterprising ass people look at the

435
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: facts and just related shit to us. The main thing

436
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: that I was like, really like, okay, cool, I see

437
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: exactly what's up was someone finally did and I just

438
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 2: said it yesterday. Say, this is the difference between the

439
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: waiver Kaeperneck got and the waiver that the NFL does

440
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: for regular standard trials.

441
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: And there was an extra cars in there.

442
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: That basically said that the work they wanted to make

443
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 2: sure the workout did not give the appearance of guaranteeing

444
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 2: him a job, and in that case he would not

445
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: be able to sue them for not having said job.

446
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: But the fact that it was not the standard waiver,

447
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: in my opinion, completely means the NFL was on some bullshit.

448
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how else you can interpret that.

449
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have signed anything if I was him

450
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: and I followed his people, because if I do get

451
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: him to sign that and it does fuck up his

452
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 2: ability to uh to file another collusion lawsuit or something

453
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: like that, I now have done my client such a

454
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: huge disservice and everyone will say, you played yourself.

455
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 4: Yep, he gave that thing to his lawyer. They read

456
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: that and said fuck.

457
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: No, yeah, so that's not that that shit was not

458
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: cool at all. Then the second thing is Howard Bryant

459
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: uh with He's a journalist who uh who covers like

460
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: sports and he uh he uh broke down a thread

461
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: this morning of the timeline of the events. Right Update

462
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: spoke with numerous sources today to clarify some points. Kaepernick's

463
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: team heard from the NFL on Tuesday eleven twelve and

464
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: was told of Saturday's workout. They weren't given thirty six

465
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: hours to consider the offer. They were given two from

466
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: eleven am to one pm.

467
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: Take it or leave it.

468
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,239
Speaker 2: Right, because I heard conflicting things about that, like they.

469
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: Had up to forty eight hours they had this.

470
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: They had two hours two Kapepernick's team told the NFL

471
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: there were too many issues to resolve with such short notice,

472
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: and proposed the following Tuesday, which was also a work day,

473
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: allowing teams top decision makers to attend and by negotiation

474
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: more time. The NFL said no. Caps attorney said if

475
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: Saturday was such a magical day, then let's move it

476
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: to the following Saturday. They also said no to that,

477
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: and they left Kaepernick to agree to the trial before

478
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackson and Joe Philbin knew they were running it,

479
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: or teams knew a workout was even happening, so.

480
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: They hadn't talked to discuss anything, but anybody.

481
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: This is another reason that I truly do believe that

482
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: the effort was spearheaded by Roger Goodell and probably Jayson

483
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: from pre s you're from jay Z, because that's something

484
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: that sounds like the NFL office was doing, not the

485
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: NFL teams were doing correct, Like we're gonna hold a

486
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: try out, We're gonna get this guy basically his own

487
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: combine and you guys will will we need to get

488
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: his commitment first and then we'll we'll work on getting

489
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: the team's commitment, which also means it was kind of

490
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: shoddily thrown together, is my assumption number four. On Tuesday,

491
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: the NFLPA says it reached out to offer assistance, especially

492
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: on the details of the waiver, which eventually doomed the deal.

493
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: A PA source says the Kaepernick team was not particularly receptive,

494
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: but the NFLPA did have a representative at Saturday's workout. Yeah,

495
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: and I mean to a certain extent, I can understand

496
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: why you don't trust the NFLPA if your Kaepernick, because

497
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: this is the same week ass PA that let you

498
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: get drummed out of the league and never really had

499
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 2: any support. I still don't understand how this did not

500
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: just become an issue where they said, as a union

501
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: of players, we are going to hold out or something

502
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: until this dude gets back in the league, like we

503
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: need some type of protests and support. So many other

504
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: leagues I feel like now I'm not saying back in

505
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: the day, but so many leagues now, I feel like

506
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: something like either the more outspoken athletes will say something

507
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: or I don't know, maybe and maybe I'm maybe it's

508
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: a pipe dream and they wouldn't. But it just seemed

509
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: like like if it was the NBA or.

510
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: Something, they'd be like, nah, this ain't right.

511
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: And also.

512
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: I might be wrong.

513
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: But also just the mentality of the NFL, it is

514
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: that fucking shield over everything, and once you kind of

515
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: join the fraternity, it is team over individuals. It is

516
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: any individual fuck it up. Unless you're certain individuals, it

517
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: becomes a problem. You you are the enemy. You know

518
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: you're you're not going along with the with with the unit,

519
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: even though you are doing it for your own individual benefit.

520
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: And I'll see for their benefit too, because you know,

521
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: everybody gets paid more. They don't want to be want

522
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: to hit that like that. People have bought into the

523
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: structure of that. And once you have bought into that structure,

524
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: I don't see anybody buying into that structure supporting because

525
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: you would actually step outside and next thing you know,

526
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: you're over there with him without a job.

527
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

528
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: When Le'Veon Bell held out, his teammates made jokes about

529
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: him and turned on.

530
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: Them and went through his locker like it was fucked up.

531
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: I didn't think that was funny at all. It was

532
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 4: fucked up the way they did.

533
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: That, yep.

534
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: And then turned the next year you got other people

535
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: holding out want their money.

536
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: Right, right, Because that's the thing. Nobody cares to this.

537
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: Them like like like it's all cool and ha, and

538
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: you not with the team until this your time to

539
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: renew and they're low balling your black ass. And then

540
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: you're like, hey, dog would know what's up with this,

541
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: But it was funny when it's somebody else's money.

542
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Number five by priority the filming was that deal was

543
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: a deal breaker for two entity suing each other. That

544
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: was the non starter. A cap attorney told me. An

545
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: independent camera made Colin believe it was a show of

546
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: good faith at the years of bad faith. NFL sources

547
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: say workout itself equals good faith. So Colin Kaepernick and

548
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: then wanted another camera there from their crew to be

549
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: like we want all we want to feel this ourselves

550
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: because we don't trust y'all. In case y'all chop this

551
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: up to make us look bad, we can be like, no,

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: this is what actually happened at the workout. And that

553
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: was a big That was a big problem because the

554
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: NFL said no, they said, it's good faith that we're

555
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: even offering you a workout.

556
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: Right there was They like you better be glad we

557
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: even opened this up for you. He's like bitch, what right?

558
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: And you're talking about a person you iced out of

559
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: the league for three years?

560
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Why the fuck should I feel that I can trust

561
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: you or grateful for this opportunity you owe me this opportunity.

562
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I have earned this opportunity. Everyone in the fucking world

563
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: knows it. Like what was like, Sorry, I'm not trying

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: to get mad, but it's just like, it's such a

565
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: ridiculous thing to put somebody through that you froze out,

566
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: not that chose to hold out, and you're like, you

567
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: froze me out. And now you're like, well, we don't

568
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: think I mean, why would you want to film it?

569
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: You know why? Number six?

570
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: To CAP's attorney, none of the issues were unresolvable and

571
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: they were convinced the deal would get done. The filming

572
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: issue took president over the more important waiver issue because

573
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: Kaepernick's team had no intention of signing it as presented.

574
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was gonna do the workout

575
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 3: without signing a waiver or what.

576
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Number seven NFL Cap in the NFL conflicted over a

577
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: key point the post workout interview. If Cap said he

578
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: would continue kneeling, would he be protected if his asser

579
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: prompted no team to sign him.

580
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: The PA said yes.

581
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: The NFLPA Players Association, because of a twenty nineteen deal

582
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: protecting players from reprisal. Eric rid and Kenny Steells, you

583
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: know they still kneel and their nav jobs. Number eight

584
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: Caps attorney says no, because the waiver forfeited his rights

585
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: to take action against anything occurring at the workout, thus

586
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: freeing the NFL from a potential second collusion suit. The

587
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: terms were so broad, I agree with the tweet. It

588
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: would have been malpractice to sign it. So that was

589
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: that was They interpreted that clause of that waiver different,

590
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: different than yeah, number nine relocation. And I don't see

591
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: why they brought their own waiver to be like, we'll

592
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: sign this absolving you of anything if I get heard

593
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: of blah blah blah. But essentially, at the end of

594
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: his press conference, when I get asked these questions by

595
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: the media and I if they say, hey, are you

596
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: still gonna kneel?

597
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: And I say yes, and then I do not hear back.

598
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: From thirty two teams, I'm gonna be like, oh, so,

599
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: y'all still colluding against me, you know, And I still

600
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: say I'm not one thousand per cent sure that it's collusion.

601
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: I don't think in a team in a world where

602
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: thirty one rich white man and one rich brown man

603
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: and on all the teams, I highly doubt they have

604
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: to talk to each other to not want Kaepernick on

605
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: their team.

606
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: But that being said, he should still be able to

607
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: sue to find out anyway. Uh.

608
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: Number nine relocation became a possibility late Friday early Saturday,

609
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: has tossed to Cintegrated Casts attorney. It looked coordinated, but

610
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: it was because Colin had so much support on the

611
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: ground here with his know your.

612
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: Rights working Atlanta, so I guess they reached out to.

613
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to assume it's like it just

614
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: sounds like somehow people got word of where he was

615
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: gonna be at and it was open to the public,

616
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: and like he had he had people to be like okay, gotcha,

617
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: and they started making phone calls. And just for the record,

618
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: if nothing fucking else, that in itself should show you

619
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: why he should be in the league, even if he

620
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: was sorry as shit. The fact that he motivated people

621
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: to drive to an unknown destination on an hour and

622
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: a half noticed in fucking Atlantic Atlanta traffic, Come on,

623
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: and people showed up in his jersey and shit, you're

624
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: fucking crazy, Like it's crazy to not sign him. People,

625
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: there are just as many fucking people that want to

626
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: see him play as the people that fucking boo or whatever.

627
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: And there's a lot more people that honestly don't give

628
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: a fuck, right, there's a lot.

629
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: Of people that don't even give a fuck.

630
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: They be sitting in that thing like, okay, I eat

631
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: a hot dog during the anthem anyway, Number ten one

632
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: sort said it was while the fault of the weekend

633
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: to not get the work out done at the Falcons

634
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: facility was eighty twenty, the NFL's fault the relationship with

635
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: CAP is scorched earth Cap needed to reach out. Others

636
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: believe the footage was for curious GM's coaches to watch. Yeah,

637
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I and I think a

638
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: lot of people that are like hashtag team Cap have

639
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: a problem with this logic, and I'm sorry if they do.

640
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: But he did escalate it as well. It doesn't mean

641
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: it's the same. It doesn't mean like we'll both partiers

642
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: are the same amount of fault. No, the NFL was

643
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: running the sham workout and he went to the other

644
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: field and did this thing, but you know, the the

645
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: shirt like he's he also is saying I'm still you know,

646
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm also saying, fuck y'all that don't y'all

647
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: scared of me? And stop, you know, stop running from me,

648
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: stop running from the people, like he was escalating it.

649
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: I think, like reasonably so, because you and I understand

650
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: exactly why the fuck he would be mad and upset.

651
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: It's been three years, Like, it's not a condemnation of

652
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: the dude to be like, yeah, they tried to play him,

653
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: he played them back and had the last word, what

654
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: do you want me to say?

655
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: Number eleven? Next, Nally went on sent.

656
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: All thirty two teams the raw footage of the workout

657
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: with a note offering Colin to speak to any team

658
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: either by phone.

659
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: Or in person.

660
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 4: Now.

661
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: He said that considering the second workout during the owners

662
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: meeting at Palm Beach in March, where all thirty two owners,

663
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: gyms and coaches will be So though, yeah, I think

664
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: that was it, so yeah, And then he went on, uh,

665
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: what's that show first take with Steven Aate Smith? Because

666
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: after I saw this ship, I said, okay, Steven Aate

667
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Smith yesterday, you're mad you got called a columbe by

668
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Eric Reid. You say your sources this, that and the other. Okay, cool.

669
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: They had Howard Bryant on the Stephen A on the

670
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: first take, and it wasn't like yesterday when they had

671
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: Max Kellerman going up against Steven A and uh Michael

672
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Eric Dyson who were kind of on the same same team.

673
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: This time Howard Bryant.

674
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Very very calm, very deferential, but also very stand stand

675
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: up and these are the facts. I did my research,

676
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: this is what I know. And Steven A. Smith moved

677
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: that damn gold post to Will at the Will that

678
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: the league is so corrupt, why.

679
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Do you even want to work for him?

680
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: And that's basically where he like because he could not

681
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: refute this man's facts, but he kept saying like basically

682
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: everybody got their own set of facts, which is his

683
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: way of saying, like, I can choose to I can

684
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: choose to say what you're saying is bullshit, and my

685
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: sources are telling me the truth. And like Max Kellerman

686
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: said on the show, then maybe your source lied to you.

687
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 2: Maybe they also don't know they lied to you. Maybe

688
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: they was told something and it's you know and like too,

689
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: like maybe you just got some bad information because Howard

690
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: did the fucking research Sports Illustrated, Pro Football Talk. All

691
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: these people now have copies of the waiver. They're putting

692
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: them online. Like to me, these are the questions I

693
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: was asking. And I asked a lot of questions because

694
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm a lot of his assumption and

695
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: this is how it looks without knowing all the shit,

696
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: and now we'd have some definitive answers, dog you was wrong,

697
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, and I would instead, you know, he did

698
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: this grand standing on like.

699
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: You know, nobody's blacker than me. You know that shit

700
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: that he does, you know, know ask about me. I

701
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: did this.

702
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: Terrell Owens text me and he said that I'm not

703
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: what it was like. Terrell Owens said, you got something.

704
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: You're on the wrong side of this, bro. You got

705
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: some bad information. I'm like, did Terrell tell you to

706
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: say to Twitter to the world on your national show

707
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: or was that like in confidence, like from a friend

708
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 2: trying to help you because he was also on Torell's side.

709
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: When Terrell Owens was like, I think boycott and Hall

710
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: of Fame or something, and he was like and that

711
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: was okay, because Terrell didn't even want to go to

712
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. When he won his award, he

713
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: gave a speech at like a local high school or

714
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: some shit like he was and he's saying, that's what

715
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Kaepernick should be doing, go play in the CFL or whatever,

716
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: and Terrell Owens hit him up, like, don't use me

717
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: as an example.

718
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. Kaepernick is right.

719
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: You wrong, You're on the wrong side of this, and

720
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: you got some bad information, and he was, and he

721
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: started talking like it was so it.

722
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Was ask him about the the hundreds of thousands of

723
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: dollars I gave to HBCUs, huh what about that I'm

724
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: not black enough.

725
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh god, this isn't turn and not and

726
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: this like I hate that it happened to him, but

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: it could happen to any of us.

728
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pull myself above anyone else.

729
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: You get called a coon man and it and when it,

730
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: when it hits you, it's hard to just.

731
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Go back to.

732
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: Like most self respecting black people are gonna have a

733
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: fucking moment with that, Like you hate to see because

734
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: I think he don't want to back down because now

735
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: if I backed down on these facts that I'm backing

736
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: down on me. It's like I'm saying, Okay, I'm a coon.

737
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: I carried the league's water at that time, but I

738
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: would have had a lot more respect for him. This morning,

739
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: people have been like, well, I was wrong about that

740
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: shit I heard this.

741
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 4: Maybe they did get wrong information, because then you actually

742
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: you actually you actually relieving yourself a responsibility by saying

743
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: my sources.

744
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

745
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: Like, like I said, I'm not a Steven apologist because

746
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot of issues with a lot of

747
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: shit that he said. We played clips on the show before,

748
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: while I'm like, I don't know what the fuck Steven

749
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: they be talking about sometimes, and I try to give

750
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: him that wide.

751
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: Birth of black people be disagreeing on shit sometimes. Blah

752
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: blah blah.

753
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I think I still think the death Knel for me

754
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: is him in that picture with Sheriff Clark.

755
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: I just can't. I didn't know that exists.

756
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know when or where they met, but

757
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: they took a picture together and you know, smiling for

758
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: the camera, clearly together. And I'm sorry, man, but I

759
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: can't respect that. I mean, that dude called Black Lives

760
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Matter a terrorist organization that dude had four people killed

761
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: in his jail under his watch and celebrated it like that,

762
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: you know, dude had somebody arrested on a plane because

763
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: they didn't like him.

764
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, man, Like I just can't see.

765
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: A situation where I run into this dude and be like,

766
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: let's get a selfie together, you know. And I think

767
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: part of that is also that pundit mentality, those people

768
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: that do these these TV shows or they talk politics on.

769
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: MSNBC and shit like it's a game.

770
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: And no matter how representable reprehensible, the Republican side of

771
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: that ship is, at the end of the day, they're

772
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: all working getting the same check and they love to

773
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: snap pictures together, like look to America and.

774
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but not for me, dog nah. You know.

775
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: So I just can't I can't see that, you know.

776
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said that's Ellen Palino out around with w

777
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's even worse. I think it's even worse,

778
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: to be frank, but because I think those talking head

779
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: people say and do a lot worse shit, like they

780
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: like the people that go on Fox News and ship

781
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: are worse fucking people, you know.

782
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: And and I and I'm not.

783
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it shouldn't be a pisson contest or whatever,

784
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's not. It's not the office, the job.

785
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Those people are terrible people that go on TV and

786
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: they talk about that ship and then you go key

787
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: key with them and wrap it up. I just can't

788
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: see it, man, It's just it's just whacked to me,

789
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, especially if you're gonna under the aspices of

790
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: don't test my blackness, like, well, nigga, we didn't take

791
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: the picture with that dude, Like, you know, that's a

792
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: bad look.

793
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey going to see Trump was.

794
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 2: A bad look as much as I'll go up for

795
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: the Daily Show and Trevor Noah him in that picture

796
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: with Tommy Lawrence.

797
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: Bad look, so bad look.

798
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: You know, like these motherfuckers are not joking or if

799
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: they're just pretending, then then they're saying things are very dangerous.

800
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: He also went on to say, back to the Star,

801
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: I asked the NFLPA source, since they are supposed to

802
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: be working with the league, if the NFL had a responsibility.

803
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: To include the PA and the LOOP on.

804
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: Something so high profile. They said, responsibility is too strong.

805
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: I said courtesy, and they said yes, better No, we

806
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: didn't get one, so they didn't even hit up the

807
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: NFLPA about this number two. In fact, we didn't get

808
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: a courtesy heads up then and we still haven't received one.

809
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: At the Saturday's workout, Kaepernick agent Jeff Nally said, not

810
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: one of the thirty two teams.

811
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: Asked for this. This came from the league office.

812
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: So to date, the NFL contacted Kaepernick's team without consulta

813
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: in the NFLPA or its teams.

814
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: The number of.

815
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Teams with confirmed attendance for the workout was not eight,

816
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: but seven San Francisco, Philly, Kansas City, Tennessee, Washington, New Jersey,

817
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: and Detroit.

818
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: So yep uh.

819
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: And like I said, I it's one of those things

820
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: where even if he were to get a job out

821
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: of this process, I just don't know how. I don't

822
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: think that's gonna change much for people.

823
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I know for

824
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: a lot of people is contingent on him getting the

825
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 4: job or not. But even if he does, most most

826
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 4: of them they're not coming back. Most people that are

827
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 4: left are not coming back. To racist people ain't coming back.

828
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: And the niggas that was mad he ain't got no job,

829
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: they ain't coming back either. Let me tell you why,

830
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 4: cause you fucked around and got free time. Oh my gosh,

831
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 4: my Sundays are free. Now I can do other shit.

832
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: I don't have to.

833
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: You know, my Mondays are free. My Thursday nights is free.

834
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: You know a lot of them. I stopped doing fantasy

835
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: football and shit like that. And once you get that

836
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: free time and you start doing other shit, you're not

837
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: gonna want to get that back up.

838
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: Give it. Well yeah, yeah, possibly possibly.

839
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: I think I think the difference would be if somehow

840
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: Kaepernick had a nationally televised game or something. But since

841
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: it's not like the NBA, and I don't think they

842
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: would just flip something like that on the fly in

843
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: the NFL the TV schedule stuff, But that would be

844
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: the only way I could see people being like, oh,

845
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down and watching this, Like even people that

846
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: said I quit the NFL, not forever, but for that game,

847
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: right right, just to come back for that game. Oh yeah,

848
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: And someone brought up in the chat, Yeah Trevor Noah,

849
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: he wasn't posted up for a picture. He basically got

850
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: snap taking a picture. And I understood his argument. I mean,

851
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: he really felt like her coming on the show and

852
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: having hit the people at the Daily Shows audience, threatening

853
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: her online and all that shit was fucked up, and

854
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: he wanted to be like, look, guys, we can disagree

855
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: without having to take it there. And I completely understand

856
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: that sentiment. He's also, you know, quote unquote new to

857
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: America at that time and all that shit. I still

858
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: think the idea of having her on your platform and

859
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: then kind of coddling coddling her in the aftermath, while

860
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: very sweet, very nice, I think it's also just bad optics.

861
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Like it looks bad no matter what you say, because

862
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: it's Tommy Lauren who calls black Lives matters terrorist.

863
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: It's not a way around that. No matter how good

864
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: a person you are.

865
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a bad look because you're not sitting

866
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: It's like sitting with a person that advocates for Hitler

867
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: and you sitting right there, you know what I mean, Like, hey, guys,

868
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: we don't have to say we will rape the person

869
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: that advocates for Hitler. It's like, yeah, then don't have

870
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: him on the show. And also like we know that

871
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: that's wrong. You're right, I don't know what percentage of

872
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: people did that. You sitting and like consoling her to

873
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: make it better or whatever doesn't necessarily change the fact

874
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: that she's gonna go right back to what she does us.

875
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: You know, Candice Owens, you know these people, I just

876
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: don't see how people kicking.

877
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: With them like that.

878
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, not my You know, maybe if

879
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: I got we had a TV show and someone was

880
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: booking our guests and we didn't have a choice or something,

881
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: I would understand. But it seems like a lot of

882
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: people be having control over this ship and they decide

883
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: to do it anyway.

884
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: Agreed. All Right, news news news, guys, news news news.

885
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: Let's see what we can get into.

886
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: Oh, Amanda Seals and Sean King got into it on

887
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: on Twitter over this movement for Rodney Reid, who's a

888
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: black man who's on death row and people think he's

889
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: it's possible, there's a reasonable doubt that he did not

890
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: commit the crime that he is on death row with

891
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: the death penalty for Okay, But then Amanda Sells supposedly

892
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: allegedly found out information that he's been accused of other crimes, uh,

893
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: sexual crimes towards women and stuff. Some of her information

894
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: was wrong as well. What she was saying like he

895
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: murdered another woman and all this other stuff, and then

896
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Sean King hopped in to correct her on Twitter, and

897
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: so you know, everybody was spider Man, spider Man, Spidery

898
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: sis just like guys. So people was having a rough

899
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: time with this one because there's two motherfuckers that people

900
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: don't really fuck with and that often times can go

901
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: can be wrong and over zealous. I took a completely

902
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: different message from it, but we'll get into that. U.

903
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: So somebody for the Grio road. Lately, is felt like

904
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: the whole country has come together and support of death

905
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: row inmate Rodney Reid, who is currently serving time for

906
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: the murder of.

907
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: Nineteen year old Stacey Stites.

908
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Civil rights activist Sean King lotshed a petition on his

909
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: behalf that garnered more than two million signatures, while celebrities

910
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: like Oprah, Beyonce and Kim Kardashian have all joined the

911
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: chorus of those pleading to Governor Greg Abbott not to

912
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: kill a man who they believe is innocent of the crime.

913
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: Which he's been convicted.

914
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: Initially, this seemed like a killer case of the justice

915
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: system getting it wrong and then being called out. Are

916
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: those committed to using their platforms and create awareness. So

917
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: imagine my surprise Sunday, even though I scrolled through my

918
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: Instagram feed, just come across a lengthy video by Amanda

919
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Sells declaring that she was feeling remorse for support and

920
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Read and giving the side out of those in charge

921
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: of his messaging in an IGTV video called what I

922
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: Wish I knew before rallying for Rodney Reid, the actress

923
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: rights in her caption, in this era of ad water activism,

924
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: it is very easy to fall for mass movements in

925
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: directions of both cancelation and or exoneration. I apologize for

926
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: my ror and rushing to the aid of this cause

927
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: without knowledge of the full scope. I would be more

928
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: mindful in the future. Be worrid, be watchful, be wise.

929
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: These are unseemly times.

930
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: Then, in a nine minute clip which I won't.

931
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 4: Be playing nine minutes, good God.

932
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: She calls out those leading to charge in Read's case

933
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: for lines of omission that paint a skewed picture of

934
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: a man who is not the sympathetic Crip character we've

935
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: all been led to believe. He was the campaign the

936
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: state of execution of Rodney Reed, and that exonerate him

937
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: was launched by supporters of Rodney Reed who believe himill

938
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: be innocent of the murder of Stacey Styite. Sales begins this,

939
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to call it propaganda, though, was presented to

940
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: people like you and me with a very decisive, clear

941
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: cut intention to not include the entire bigger picture of

942
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: Rodney Reed as he presents as a criminal and a

943
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: danger to women.

944
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: Now, this intro is important because the weaponar's two.

945
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: Phrases all advocates and active respond too strongly, which are

946
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: propaganda and danger to women. Once I heard those words,

947
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: that sat up in attention, that sawve myself to hear

948
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: her out. It feels very duplicious, duplicatous that those who

949
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: were put for this, not just his family, but individuals

950
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: who fancy themselves activists, were doing.

951
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: So while the knowledge that this person, Rodney Reed, is

952
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: not just.

953
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: Accused of but has been linked to several to previous

954
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: rapes via his DNA being discovered within the victim. He

955
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: has been id by a woman who escaped him. She continued,

956
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: So you're asking yourselves, well, why wasn't he convicted of

957
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: those Well, three of the cases did not go to

958
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: trial because he had already been convicted of capital punishment,

959
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: so essentially he was already on death row, so they

960
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: didn't bother to try these other cases. Now, I don't

961
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: know if you're like me, I'm like, well, why does

962
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: because he's on death row mean that other cases didn't

963
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: deserve justice? That is another mystery for our justice system.

964
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: Seals then goes on to the list how Reid has

965
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: been accused of raping women in the past, one of

966
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: which was a twelve year old girl, and how that

967
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: how would alarmed her Most is his supporters thought that

968
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: this was not pertinent information that need to be including

969
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: the assertion to the masses that we should rally behind

970
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: this person. These are not things that I feel like

971
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: you can overlook. There are people who push this cause

972
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: in front of people like you and me. And now

973
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: I feel like a dick because I also carry this

974
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: narrative through, thinking that I had done research, when really

975
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: I had simply just been presented with very skew propaganda.

976
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: The video ends on her state, and I wholly regret

977
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: lending my name and the defense of this man's freedom

978
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: from the death penalty and imploring people to be mindful

979
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: about who they trust what she got right now, I'm

980
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: aware of the man the Seals her suff with the

981
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: fall from Grace recent land. It's just barely coming out

982
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: of public backlashing one piece. In a recent interview with

983
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: her friends over at the breakfast clubs, she even touched

984
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: on how emotionally taxing this band to be condemned in

985
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: the court of public opinion.

986
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: But even if you don't care for.

987
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Her personally, we all have to admiss she's intelligent woman

988
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: who seems to pride herself on being an advocate for

989
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: black people. So for her do we so for her

990
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: stick her neck out and go against the grain Like this,

991
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: I felt at least warranted me looking into the allegation.

992
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: Since the catching the video ended with links to everything

993
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: I referenced on my ig story. An available online, it

994
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: was easy to go directly to the sources who had

995
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: her sew up in arms. The first video was a

996
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: YouTube video which I have to admit was a compelling

997
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: opus against Read and those who believe in his innocence,

998
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: like Seals recounting he did in fact get accused of

999
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: sawt another women, including the minor, and watching one of

1000
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: his alleged victims speak about the day he tried to

1001
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: rape her and the similarities between her case and that

1002
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: of Sites felt very damn it by the end of

1003
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: the clip, and I, after checking the facts presented, I

1004
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: walked away thinking that I could see why man the

1005
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: Seals feels like this man may be a danger to women.

1006
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: But here's a thing, y'all. At the very least, there

1007
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: are often three sides to the story yours. There is

1008
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: an objective truth.

1009
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: So instead of letting one fourteen minute video convince me

1010
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: of a black man's guilt, I did what I fear

1011
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: of Seals didn't do.

1012
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: I actually kept digging, all right what she missed.

1013
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you were witnessing a High States

1014
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: court case where the prosecution went up, presented their side,

1015
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: and in the jury was asked to come to a

1016
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: verdict without here what the defense had to say. Well,

1017
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 2: that's what it appears happened after Seals watch and read

1018
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: those pieces against Reed, because within just a half hour

1019
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: of seeing her side, I was able to quickly, quite

1020
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: easily come back and see why he still received and

1021
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: objectively deserved so much support in the specific case in

1022
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: which it was convicted. First off, let's start with the

1023
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: fact that the entire case against Reid is based on

1024
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: two things, a timeline provided by Stacey Styke's police officer

1025
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: boyfriend Jimmy Fennel, who a lot of people believe to

1026
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: be the actual killer, and the semen found on Stacey

1027
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: stys that belonged to Read. Now, Red may be no

1028
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: boy scout, but to be clear, neither was Jimmy Fennol.

1029
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: What Finnyl was though it was a hot head policeman

1030
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: who in two thousand and seven was convicted of kidnapping

1031
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: his sexual misconduct against a woman who was in his custody.

1032
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: From the jump, Fendo's actions alone paint a picture of

1033
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: a crooked cop who was in voted to let another

1034
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: man get framed for a crime he may have committed. Yeah, yeah,

1035
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: we'll see about this, because I mean, I'm not saying

1036
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: this is or is not true, but it's kind of

1037
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: that thing where.

1038
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 3: It's like.

1039
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: It is it doesn't necessarily exonerate Read, but people are saying,

1040
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: I think he did get a stay of execution for

1041
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: them to like three months or something to look into it.

1042
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: I can't remember the act number of days, but I

1043
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: don't know anyway. First of all, as a timeline with

1044
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: the DA present. Does the timeline that the DA presents

1045
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: proud Fennol couldn't have done it, Well, that's been disputed

1046
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: by medical experts to say Stys was most likely killed

1047
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: nine hours earlier than originally believe, meaning Fennol had apple

1048
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: time to kill his fiance. Not to mention, a witness

1049
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: came forward to say Phenol once told him that if

1050
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: he ever cops girl cheating on him, he strangled over

1051
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: the belt.

1052
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: Which just happens to be what happened to the victim.

1053
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: And add to that that other compelling evidence like how

1054
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: despite the fact that the couple's apartment was the last

1055
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: place she was seen alive, Fennol's law enforcement friends completely

1056
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: neglected to search the home for evidence. Speaking of law enforcement,

1057
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: it turns out that several of the cops have had

1058
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: suspicions about Fenno's guilt as well. And this is part

1059
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: of the part where I encourage you all to take

1060
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: out your pens and look up every single name or

1061
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: bring up first of all, Officer Joe Bryant, who wasn't

1062
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: officially on the read case, but had suspicions about the

1063
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 2: killer that led him to look into his own soon

1064
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: after this independent probe began. Though Brian was randomly killed

1065
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: by Mexican migrant worker. His wife, Mary Marie Bryant came

1066
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: forward to say that before her husband passed, he told

1067
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: her his investigation on handing to be leave finner was

1068
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: a killer, and Maria said she was a surprise. Then,

1069
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: as officer ed Salmela, who was one of the first

1070
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: people had to see in the crime. Just four months

1071
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: after he became involved with the case, he was found

1072
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: dead in what appeared to be a self inflicted gunshot

1073
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: on there's a problem with that determination.

1074
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: So Mela was shot from his left hand, even though

1075
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: he's actually right.

1076
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: Handed, which is held of suspicious giving people attended to

1077
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: suicide almost always shoot themselves at dominant hand. However, his brother,

1078
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: Scott Samela says despite being right handed only shooting his

1079
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: right hand, ed often shook hands with his left hand,

1080
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: which means is someone who knew him and passing like

1081
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: a fellow officer was attempted to stage of suicide. They

1082
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: might mistake this hand shake for indication that, Okay, this

1083
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: is a lot of a lot of conspiracy. Thought you

1084
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and I think this is this

1085
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: is kind of what one of the reasons I've really

1086
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: found it hard to listen to what was that show?

1087
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: It was a podcast, you guys know what I'm talking about? Where, Yes,

1088
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: Serial Where was like everything. It's like, we will examine

1089
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: every conspiracy that AD nine didn't do it, and we'll

1090
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: just kind of got poopoo on all the evidence that

1091
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: he could have done it. Who doesn't write a letter

1092
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: that says I'll kill my girlfriend and like, who hasn't

1093
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: done that? We all were seventeen once, you know, like

1094
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: where It's like, I'm not saying that he definitely did it,

1095
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: but y'all definitely want me to think he didn't do it.

1096
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: Like I understand how this product works.

1097
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: And they also can have a man that did crimes

1098
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: in jail for shit that you know he did on

1099
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: top of this, like he could have did other shit

1100
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: in this too, right.

1101
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: Scott also points out the Air was a notorious neat freak,

1102
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: yet when they went to his apartment, it had been ransacked.

1103
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: His guns, computers, and hard drives are all gone.

1104
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: If someone was attempting to frame it for suicide and

1105
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: taking any incriminating evidence he had with him, And let's

1106
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: not forget the unidentified officer who, on the day Styke's

1107
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: funeral her finel.

1108
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 3: Whispered to her dead body, you got what you deserve.

1109
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: The unidentified officer okay, or the nmate who served time

1110
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: with Fennel during this kidnapping sentence who says he flat out.

1111
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 3: Confessed to murdered him.

1112
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: A convicted crooket car with a history of sexual mist conduct,

1113
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: who people have heard verbally admit to the crime, who

1114
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: threatened this to his girlfriend and she cheated on him.

1115
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 2: Sounds like enough reasonable doubt to warn a new trial fail,

1116
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: especially when the black man who she allegedly was having

1117
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: enough for a minuted affair with is now sitting on

1118
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: death throw. What evidence did they have it was an affair, though.

1119
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: I wonder, I don't know, Like.

1120
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, because if this semen was found on

1121
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: other people that claimed they were raped, and then seeman

1122
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: was found on this woman and then you know, well

1123
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: they were just having consensual Like I wonder what they

1124
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: got from that, like where that came from that? It's

1125
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: just an affair.

1126
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 3: His videos of singamore done, okay, Well we can all learn.

1127
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: I suspect what happened here, as Amanda Stills found out

1128
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: Rodney Reid wasn't a saint, it may have been guilty

1129
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: of sexual misconduct in this past, and then immediately lost

1130
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 2: all ability to root for his civil rights after that.

1131
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: What she had was an understandable emotional reaction. But emotions

1132
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: the facts are two very different things. And luckily for us,

1133
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: the system is supposed acknowledge that how many times has

1134
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: an unarmed black person get killed by police? And the

1135
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: first thing we do is read off the highlight reel

1136
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: of all their accomplishments.

1137
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: We state that they were class valedictorians. Ball you know,

1138
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: I get talk about respectability, shit that people that people do.

1139
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: Right, was Rodney read a potential serial fielder offender in

1140
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: a former life? Possibly that would be up to it

1141
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: for a court to decide based on evidence. But if

1142
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Ruth can shoot up all those innocent people at

1143
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: Mother Emanuel and still get lunch at Burger King on

1144
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: his way to a fair trial at the very least Rodney,

1145
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: he deserve the same.

1146
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but okay, you know what

1147
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean?

1148
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: Like this thing where it's like white men get white

1149
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: privileged and often do not get any level of real justice,

1150
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: And like real like consequences. I don't know that, that's what.

1151
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't think the system should be as vindictive as

1152
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: it is against black people and stuff. I don't know

1153
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: that the way we treat white people is the correct

1154
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: answer to this shit either, right, that's kind of a

1155
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: that's kind of a stretch. You know, Dylan Rue is

1156
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: still on death roll because he did it so right.

1157
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: You know, they still ended up on the same place.

1158
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: Justice never can ahead. No, no, did you want to

1159
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 3: say something? Oh you want you want to just sum

1160
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: it up? All right?

1161
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me see how much more justice never

1162
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: requires purity as a prereguizit for someone's humanity to be honored.

1163
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 3: Isn't just at all? Isn't just at all?

1164
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: Ironically, the counter points presented by Sales or her scaping

1165
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: video this weekend just made me even more aware of

1166
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: why messy cases like this one are exactly the ones

1167
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: we need to be examined in order to create the

1168
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 2: prison reform that we say we need. If you only

1169
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: root for a certain type of black person, you're rooting

1170
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: for freedom, You're perpetuating tokenism. All Rodney reads for supporters

1171
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: are asking us for the brother to.

1172
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: Get a fair trial.

1173
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: Where all the evidence is presented, How can anyone deny

1174
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: the merit in that that's not Propaganda's supposed to be

1175
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: the law.

1176
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, that's it.

1177
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 4: Oh im about to say that was long for no reason?

1178
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right.

1179
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 4: And and hm hmmm, it's like, so so this is

1180
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 4: a person's peace, like they just we was just going

1181
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: and just finding stuff, just just like Amanda was. So

1182
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: this this was that quote unquote counter argument to her point.

1183
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: M hmm okay, Like I like, well, I think this

1184
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: is what I was gonna say. So, prison reform in

1185
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: prison abolition is actual tough work, yes, And people that

1186
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: work in that industry for real, for real, not just

1187
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: tweeting shit online, but that really go and work with

1188
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: inmates that deal with reform in prison, who will deal

1189
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 2: prison abolitionists even there's a big contingent of them online

1190
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: who talk a good game because it's good theoretical exercise.

1191
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: They hop online they can do purity police, and they

1192
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: can shame everybody that's against the idea, and they can

1193
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: call everyone vindictive.

1194
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: And all this shit.

1195
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: But when you bring up certain stuff, they don't have

1196
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: an answer for it. So what they did in this

1197
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: case is a lot of them hid this dude's past

1198
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: because they don't have an answer for these questions.

1199
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: Well, if this guy is.

1200
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: A serial predator of women, are you saying he just

1201
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: gets to go back on the street, that's it because

1202
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: we don't have a place to put him, and there

1203
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: is no penalty that you feel can justly encapsulate what

1204
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: should happen to a black man in his system? So

1205
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: does he just get to continue raping? Ad iNFiNiT them like,

1206
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: we just got to sit back and let it happen.

1207
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: And this is just the cost of a better system

1208
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: where no one goes to jail, Like, what are.

1209
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: Your solutions to this shit?

1210
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: And they don't like answering that question. The reason they

1211
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: don't really have to answer that question because we're not

1212
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: ever going to get there. You know, we're never gonna

1213
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: get there with the most incarcerated system, uh in the world.

1214
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: It's definitely a form of slavery. It's definitely targeted.

1215
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: They're black people, so they just ride out those notions.

1216
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: But the ugliness of the of the of these circumstances

1217
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: they like to gloss over. It's why I make fun

1218
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: of that shit, because I'm not picking on the idea.

1219
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: I think I'm very close to prison abolition prison reformists,

1220
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: like with my politics and.

1221
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: My belief system.

1222
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: But I also recognize when somebody online is saying something stupid,

1223
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: and so I make jokes of the stupid shit. It's

1224
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: like when people used to be They don't do it

1225
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: as much, but they used to two three years ago,

1226
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: when there was Bernie Sanders, Black people would start taking

1227
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: on these socialist ideals online, but it turned out to

1228
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: just be petty shit about people they don't like and

1229
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: shit like it like, it wasn't actual socialism.

1230
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: It was purity Twitter.

1231
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: Shit where you get to ship on people, not try

1232
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: to spread some message or some word, and get to

1233
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: be like I'm smarter than you. But it's not an

1234
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: actual you're not actually trying to start a cause, you're

1235
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: not even starting organizations like you're just talking.

1236
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: You're not even trying to educate people on the shit nop.

1237
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: So with prison abolitionists though, and death penalty abolitionists, they

1238
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: just don't believe in the death penalty for anybody, and

1239
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: what they have to what happens is when these celebrities

1240
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: join in these Twitter accounts, join in these social media

1241
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: people that have like followings join in.

1242
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: People are such fucking sheep.

1243
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: They hashtag free Rodney Reid, exonerate this innocent black man,

1244
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. They don't do no fucking research. They're

1245
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: not reading a goddamn article. What his charges are, the trial,

1246
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: the case, they don't care. And if you present the

1247
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: other side, they just gonna you clean ass sellout or

1248
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: white propaganda or something like we have. The people are

1249
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: so polarized and divided now, and there's no nuance on

1250
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: social media, so you can just do the like all

1251
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: good or all bad, and if someone presents something to

1252
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: you as all good, motherfuckers, just be like cool, all good. Right,

1253
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: that's the end of it. But let's talk about what

1254
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: social media is. You can't be a prison abolitionist. You

1255
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: can't be a death penalty abolitionist if you're like these

1256
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: niggas on Twitter who dig up old tweets from celebrities

1257
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: or someone they don't like from seven years ago and

1258
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: demand that the motherfucker like be canceled or apologies eyes

1259
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: or not support it, or treat them as if they

1260
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: said the ship yesterday or then don't believe any apologies.

1261
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 2: These people are not forgiving people. Nope, at their core,

1262
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: they give the social death penalty to everybody, everybody, any

1263
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: celebrity has.

1264
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: Ever done any fucking thing. They don't like that.

1265
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: You do not have a heart to forgive, You do

1266
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: not have a heart for justice. You don't have a

1267
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: heart to let people back into society, right.

1268
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: Because the whole point is to let you know, Because

1269
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: when you actually get down to it, a lot of

1270
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 4: people go, Okay, you've been locked up and you serve

1271
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: your time. You need to be able to be integrated

1272
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: back into society.

1273
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: I can make uh. And the thing is, this shit

1274
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: is a right. So like perfect.

1275
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: Example, how many people mock Nicki Minaj for who she

1276
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: got married to, m because a fucking former criminal, right

1277
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: right and reprehensible crimes. Same people talking about prison, abolition,

1278
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: death pill, the abolishment band, the box, all this shit.

1279
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: That woman chose her personal life to date this man

1280
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: who she feels either reformed or or there's more to

1281
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: the story, blah blah blah, what she decided to do.

1282
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: That we don't control her vagina or her body or

1283
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: her decision making people roast that woman on the fucking daily. Now,

1284
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not it's not escalated by her.

1285
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: We all know how she gets down. A lot of

1286
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: it is because of how she gets down too. But

1287
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: the point is, we don't root for former felas and

1288
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: shit unless we decide, unless there's certain crimes we decide

1289
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: are okay and certain ones that aren't. These are the

1290
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: realities that people don't want to confront. So when you

1291
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: say something like your prison abolitionist, you can't be a

1292
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: prison abolitionist part time. You can't be like, okay, some

1293
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: criminal abolition like either you believe it or you don't.

1294
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: On Twitter. On Twitter, either you believe it or you don't.

1295
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: In real life, I know people who work in that field.

1296
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: They're not telling you, they're not selling you a pipe dream.

1297
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: They'll tell you straight up. Look, it's some people in

1298
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: this society. I don't know how we get them back in.

1299
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: We ain't there yet. And what I do hope for

1300
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: is more humane conditions in prisons where they gotta be.

1301
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 3: That's real.

1302
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 4: Some niggas just gonna be locked up, but at least

1303
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be better conditions.

1304
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: Because this theory online is real people's lives when you

1305
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: meet people face to face, so that's real.

1306
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1307
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: So for example, in this guy's case, he may be

1308
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: an actual rapist.

1309
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: People keep, well, he's no saint nigga, you're downplaying it.

1310
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: Any other time someone does anything to a woman, let

1311
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: it be the me too movement. You don't want that

1312
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: nigga to work again. You want them in jail, you

1313
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: want them under the jail. Let it be R Kelly.

1314
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: We are not advocating for this nigga to be walking

1315
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: around free. If you don't accept that duality, that reality,

1316
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: then you're not really about that work. So what happened

1317
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: is people discovered what was being hidden from them. Why

1318
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: were these things hidden from them because the people that

1319
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: started this shit were in the online space of social media,

1320
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: where purity reigns, So they had to present to you

1321
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: a man that you mostly could not know shit about,

1322
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: because that's the only way you would support it. If

1323
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: they said, hey, guys, this guy who may be a

1324
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: seriou rapist is on death row for a crime that

1325
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: we're not sure he got a fair trial for. We

1326
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: just would like to see him get a fair trial,

1327
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: people would have said, I'm not fucking helping you.

1328
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 4: He's a rapist that as far as he gonna go

1329
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 4: for most people, the.

1330
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: Same people who claim, while we always got to say

1331
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: this black man was in church, and while we got

1332
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: to say this black man got straight a's when the

1333
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: cops killed.

1334
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: Him, it shouldn't matter. It does matter. It matters to you.

1335
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: At act, it matters to you because most people are

1336
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: never reaching that plane of consciousness where you really don't

1337
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: give a fuck about the extenuated circumstances. Say it's about

1338
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: the principle this shit. Most of us are never getting there.

1339
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: Most of us are gonna be like, Nope, that shit's

1340
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: a little too hangings for your boy, dog, Good luck

1341
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: with you with your trial. That's where most people are

1342
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: gonna get. You know, I'm not saying there, I'm not

1343
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: saying they're wrong. I'm saying it's just a hypocrisy that

1344
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: exists in everybody, just about everybody.

1345
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 6: You know.

1346
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: And that's why I try not to advocate a shit

1347
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: that I know I can't support. So I don't say

1348
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: shit like I'm against the definitely because dealing ruth existing.

1349
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: If they fries ass, I'm gonna be like, good, why

1350
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: would I lie to you like that? At least you

1351
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: know I'm honest.

1352
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: These other niggas will lie to you.

1353
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: You know, when I see Amber Geager gets ten years,

1354
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, that's not that much time for killing

1355
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: a black person, just killing in they fucking else. That's

1356
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: really not that much time. So can I really be like, well,

1357
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: you know, I'm for prison reform. I'm for prison reform

1358
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: for certain motherfuckers, to be frank, certain kind of crimes.

1359
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: And the sad part is, if you truly want to

1360
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: be about prison abolition and you most people have been sold.

1361
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 2: And this is because it's the most palpable feasible and

1362
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: the one that people find the most acceptable. They've been

1363
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: sold this kind of non violent drug offenders. How many

1364
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: times you have non violent offenders? If we could finish,

1365
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: if we could free the non violent offenders, they should

1366
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 2: be able to be back on the streets. They're non

1367
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: violent offenders, number one. Do you know how many people

1368
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: are non violent offenders? But also, you have to kind

1369
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: of be violent when you're in prison. You have to

1370
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: kind of be violent in some of these situations where

1371
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: you're selling drugs, you have to kind of be violent

1372
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: because of what the other non violent offense is. So, yeah,

1373
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: I sold drugs and I had a gun on me

1374
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: guess what that counts as. Yeah, that's a violent offense.

1375
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: I didn't have to kill nobody. I didn't have to

1376
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: shoot the gun. Having the gun can be considered a

1377
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: violent offense. Another thing is if we freed all the

1378
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: non violent offenders, it would be a drop in the

1379
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: fucking bucket. That is not representative of even close to

1380
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: the majority of people in prison. So while we've been

1381
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: sold that, we've been sold that because it's all our

1382
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: fucking puritanical minds can take, that's not Actually, that's not

1383
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: going to solve the problem.

1384
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 3: It won't abolish prisons either.

1385
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: No, So we have cases that we feel this way about.

1386
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: We have people that we feel this way about. Many

1387
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 2: of us feel differently about Centoya Brown than we feel

1388
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: about you know, uh Amberg Geiger agree, like right, like

1389
01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 2: we like these things are circumstantial, situational, And I think

1390
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: celebrities and social justice activists on Twitter and shit saying

1391
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: the right hashtag gets a lot of people to go, oh,

1392
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: I'll just retweet that, right, Oh oh, so and so.

1393
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 3: Circulates a petition. I'll sign that, no problem.

1394
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: But that is not really their politics. They're signing it

1395
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 2: because of the social part of social media to be

1396
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: part of the crowd. But and you know it's not

1397
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 2: their politics because the second you found out this dude

1398
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: was a rapist, she was like, hm, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1399
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 3: No, not bad.

1400
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was dipping my toe into, right.

1401
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Don't research just the topic, research yourself, because either you

1402
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: will gainst a death finity like that, or you're not

1403
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: really against it like that.

1404
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: You know, like if you say.

1405
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm a death fennity abolitionist, a prison abolitionist, either that

1406
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: or you're not. You can't be that. Sometimes that's just

1407
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: how it goes. So stop calling yourself shit. You're not

1408
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: doing you just doing it because it's the way the

1409
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: same way every account was a fucking socialist seek three

1410
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: years ago, and now Bernie's not in the league no more.

1411
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, socialism is cool, it's okay, you know,

1412
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: but I'm not looking online to argue with Nigga about

1413
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: socialism anymore. Like that's not the wave no more. You know,

1414
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: it's not social media anymore. So yeah, man, I just

1415
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: thought that that was.

1416
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: A very.

1417
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: That conversation encapsulated a lot of stuff about social media

1418
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: and prison reform and social justice and shit, and how

1419
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: it's a.

1420
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: Lot of it's just a function.

1421
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: Of click retweet, like favorite, oh yeah, oh yeah, sign

1422
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: this petition.

1423
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: Like you said, that's the social part of social media.

1424
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: And once you wrap your mind around that, you can

1425
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,879
Speaker 4: almost predict trends. You can almost be like, when something happens,

1426
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 4: you can almost predict the cycle of what's going to

1427
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: happen and who's gonna be on what side. Like, once

1428
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 4: you understand that concept, it makes social media so much

1429
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 4: easier to navigate.

1430
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: And then locking up our own man, one of the

1431
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: things you gotta realize Black people are the hardest owned

1432
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: black people in the criminal justices. Yes, like we like

1433
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: to outsource that to whiteness and white supremacy and the

1434
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: white justice.

1435
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying white supremacies and all this.

1436
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: Shit don't have nothing to do with it, but I'm

1437
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: just saying we like to outsource that as if we

1438
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: just somehow innocent victims of this. We are also conditioned

1439
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: and believe in less forgiveness for each other.

1440
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've also bought into the system too. You know

1441
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,839
Speaker 4: a lot of people go fuck the police, but goddamn

1442
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 4: my house getting broke into. Who I'm calling them mother

1443
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 4: fucking police.

1444
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 3: Locking up our own looks at Washington, DC.

1445
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: Black ass, black ass, black ass, black ass city, Chocolate City,

1446
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: with black people at every major decision making level of

1447
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 2: the local populace of black.

1448
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 4: People, conservative as hell. Yeah, black people that it's us too, totality.

1449
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it's us too, you know so. And then when

1450
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: you throw in the way the gender works on social

1451
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: media and the way people are so divided. Dog, you know,

1452
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: as soon as you find out crimes against women, it's

1453
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 2: back to black men are trash for this dude calls

1454
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: is over, you know. I remember when it was Auton

1455
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: Sterling and he had a statutory rape in his past.

1456
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: It was like, take his ass off this T shirt.

1457
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: I ain't marching, you know, like this shit is more

1458
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: complicated than that. And I the same way, I don't

1459
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: really to be frank, I don't really begrudge Amanda Seals

1460
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: for this mm hmm, you know, because maybe this ain't

1461
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: her passion, this ain't her lane, Maybe she shouldn't have

1462
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: been over there.

1463
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: And that's the lesson she learned today was.

1464
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: I don't really feel all these fluffy feelings about getting

1465
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: this dude out when I realized the other things he's.

1466
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: Done, and that's undustaninable.

1467
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: That's really that. Most of these motherfuckers being they just

1468
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: went quiet on the ship. They feel exactly like she do.

1469
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: They just stopped talking about it.

1470
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 4: Tweeted through it, somebody calling him out about it right now,

1471
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 4: and they do block mutant keeping it trucking.

1472
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: Sadly. Man. When I saw this ship being talked about,

1473
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: I honestly.

1474
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: Said that's not gonna end well and just stopped.

1475
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 3: This is over a week or two ago.

1476
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: I was like, Nah, that's not gonna end well, because

1477
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: these niggas are not who they say they are. They

1478
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: are not about that life. They're not gonna say and

1479
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: when you go he is there some other crimes he

1480
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 2: may have done. They're not gonna just go. And I said,

1481
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm against the death penalty. Niggas, I don't. I'm not

1482
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: saying he's blah blah blah. Most of them are gonna

1483
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: be like, oh wait, what like most of these niggas

1484
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: mad at Lizzo over there fucking tweet about uber eats,

1485
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like this is not Uh,

1486
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: these are petty people. Petty people are not good at

1487
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: at at that type of consistency the ship, the whims

1488
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: move too fast.

1489
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 3: Speaking of death, enldy man, I still remember this. Uh

1490
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 3: this is too much crime though. What the reason they

1491
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: have all this crime because they got no death feelings?

1492
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 7: What they said about California says, well, one of the

1493
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 7: reasons we don't have any.

1494
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 8: Death penalty because we can't find anybody that pull a

1495
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 8: switch shit. They just ain't real acts you right, motherfucker,

1496
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 8: because I pull it.

1497
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even take no lunch time two motherfucker at

1498
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: the time.

1499
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 9: Gotta go, gotta go, put your big ass home.

1500
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm serious.

1501
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 8: Well, I've uh that everything death nigga runna stop like death.

1502
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do it no more. I know you

1503
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 3: ain't gonna do it no more.

1504
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 8: Hum got go, got go, I'm serious about that. Man,

1505
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 8: have been just like Pakistan, so fucking you.

1506
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 3: Know how to do it. Pakistan, He's still something to do.

1507
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 8: Cut off your hand, dumping judge on his ship. Just

1508
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 8: show him the hair you stolen with God be gonna

1509
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 8: be given.

1510
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: If I hate you, go home. Yeah, caught you last week.

1511
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: Oh look, got caught me last week. Top my shit off.

1512
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: I can't even hold my.

1513
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 9: Thk man, Okay, gotta go, gotta go, ship it's fucked up.

1514
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 8: Somebody long somebody can steal your car and get out

1515
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 8: of jail before.

1516
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 3: You get another one stumped up. You ain't there to

1517
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: bus stop this mother fuger ride. He going in my car.

1518
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 8: I know y'all ran in the paper, but this man

1519
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 8: broke in these people's house and fell asleeping in there,

1520
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 8: talking about.

1521
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: He tied how to walk his ass up with a

1522
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: third e. Set your hands up, gotta.

1523
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 4: Go, gotta go.

1524
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: He too lean in with him. Man, I don't hear

1525
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:42,879
Speaker 3: nothing there, fucking I don't go. I serious, fucking public hands.

1526
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 3: My mother's gonna be out there. What y'all gonna doing

1527
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: up there? Trying to steal something? I guess he's hanging

1528
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 3: around fucked up man.

1529
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 8: I wouldn't give him no you know, I'm death telling

1530
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 8: straight electricity.

1531
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I wouldn't give him no gas. He'll be trying

1532
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 3: to hold a brother. Oh man, Yeah, he give us gas.

1533
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: We just hold our breath. Been there if they electricity,

1534
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 3: I'm said he set up out. God, that is that

1535
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 3: fucking lethal injection, that letho injection. Mother may be strapped down, nor.

1536
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 8: Man if I was, I'm the president I give all

1537
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 8: the police are silenty cut.

1538
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 3: On the gun. Yeah, crip here.

1539
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 9: All right, this fucker y'all, Yeah, gotta gotta go.

1540
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: We don't die.

1541
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 9: We multiply sh no funeral.

1542
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: That's a big ass whole dump day, mock ass. I

1543
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: looking at the paper the other day.

1544
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 8: Man, homey rob once you was doing a chat, got

1545
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 8: away with chicken jelly glades doing that.

1546
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: Holy come in and said, what happened? We got robbed?

1547
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 3: Oh bitch, I know you gotta rob What do you take.

1548
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 4: That?

1549
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 3: Polly said, like them now, yeah, give me six trouble.

1550
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 7: Oh man, All law enforcements ought to have a damn gun,

1551
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 7: ought to have a gun. Went to one mall, I

1552
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 7: saw damn a security guard with house shoes on, bad

1553
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,839
Speaker 7: flight of house shoes.

1554
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: What the fuck he gonna do? I can see him

1555
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 3: look arresting some crips.

1556
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 8: Now, come on, come on out of there, Come on

1557
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 8: out there.

1558
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 3: You know I see you, come on, come on.

1559
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 10: Oh oh man, rested piece of Robert Harris. But yeah, man,

1560
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 10: but like people not necessarily as walk on his death

1561
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 10: family ship as people think. Man like that's kind of

1562
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 10: that twinter shit like, oh man, that was that was

1563
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 10: my man, what else happened.

1564
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: Jada pingins Min says, he I gonna be on the

1565
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 3: Red Table Talk.

1566
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 4: She knows how to get him, don't she?

1567
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 3: That woman can booker guess no one. He ain't said shit.

1568
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: You been over there being quiet, trying to get on that.

1569
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: I saw people on well on Twitter being like shitting

1570
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: on this. But Red Table Talk a good show. I

1571
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: don't care what they say, and you.

1572
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: Know what it really is. God, I just wish they

1573
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 4: were making a podcast.

1574
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.

1575
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: I love that show, so I want to see it

1576
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: because they all confront him, and they won't do it

1577
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: in Twitter fashion of screaming over him. Other people said, well,

1578
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: I wish we had a table of prominent men that

1579
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: could hold him accountable and because women need to not

1580
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: do this work.

1581
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: And I agree, except that table don't exist.

1582
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: So where the fuck are you gonna get these prominent

1583
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: woke men that can sit TI down and school him

1584
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 2: on misogyny.

1585
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,480
Speaker 3: Where where do these niggas live? Where do they exist?

1586
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: Point me in the right direction, cause I don't know

1587
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: what black men are doing that type of work within

1588
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: blackness and checking each other.

1589
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 3: It ain't It don't.

1590
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: Really seem like it's a lot of people of prominent

1591
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: stature that, especially black men, that have any fucking like

1592
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: feminist or womanist leanings or wherewithal to even appreciate that

1593
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: kind of shit, Like black men for the most part,

1594
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: spend time arguing with feminists and shit like ain't exactly

1595
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: like I can't think of one d'll Julie ain't doing it, Uh,

1596
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: Charlemagne and the Main doing it, Joe Budden ain't doing it,

1597
01:19:59,200 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 2: Like who.

1598
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 3: Can check yeah like that that's not happening.

1599
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: So it's gonna whoever's gonna be inclined to check him

1600
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: on that and have a at least a background where

1601
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: they can check him on that. It's gonna probably be

1602
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: a woman. I can't even think of. I wish I

1603
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: could think of some dude, but it was motherfucker's patting

1604
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: themselves on the back about it, or they'd just be

1605
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: like it's whack and leave it at that. But you know,

1606
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: people that he would respect within the industry, I don't

1607
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: see that happening, Like Jada Pingingtsmith a name. The Red

1608
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: Table is a name, right, you know, So I don't.

1609
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a black men that even

1610
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 2: fucking discuss shit like this in that type of way,

1611
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: And I don't think there's a lot of want for

1612
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: black men to do that kind of shit. And also,

1613
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: that's a very tight rope for a lot of black

1614
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: men to walk, because you're gonna have the eyes of

1615
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: a lot of black women on you that are gonna

1616
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: disagree and be pretty passionate about it.

1617
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 4: So you're talking about shit do women have experienced and

1618
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 4: you have not experienced?

1619
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, maybe Jada and her you know,

1620
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: and uh and.

1621
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: Her daughter and her mom and her mom. Maybe that's

1622
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 3: a great place for him to sit down.

1623
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: And one of the things I liked about it is

1624
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they will bring him up on it. I'm

1625
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: sure they'll confront him on it, but it doesn't have

1626
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: to become a yelling contest. It doesn't have to become

1627
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: them trying to admonish him for Twitter likes, which is

1628
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 2: how people on Twitter like shit, because people on Twitter

1629
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: are always like, no, don't bring him own, don't give

1630
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: him no more da da da, And it's like, y'all

1631
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: don't understand he's not learning a lesson, and y'all don't

1632
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 2: want him to learn a lesson because y'all want to

1633
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: stay in the same place so you can keep bloviating.

1634
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: If their goal is to educate not just him, but

1635
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other people through him, you're gonna

1636
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: have to confront that ignorance to his face in that way,

1637
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: you know, Like that's something that their platform is very

1638
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: good at, as far as bringing people up there talking

1639
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: about their issues and making them feel heard and seen,

1640
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: but also being like, well, let's push back a little

1641
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: bit on this. It won't be the confrontational shit that

1642
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: people want to sell on Twitter. So hey, don't watch

1643
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 2: it then.

1644
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 4: Like, no fight, no, Yeah, that's not what you're gonna get.

1645
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1646
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm actually low key kind of glad that he didn't

1647
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: do the opposite, which is going to press tour of

1648
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Joe Budden's podcast and stuff, where it would

1649
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: have been a whole lot of people laughing and agreeing

1650
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: and high fiving or at least being like you crazy dog,

1651
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: but for the most part not really checking him on it,

1652
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: right like, because he could have done that. You know,

1653
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: he could be talking to Killer Mike right now or somebody.

1654
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna stop him. He's still to y'all like

1655
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: he's somebody a lot of these people are gonna be scared.

1656
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: Even if they did disagree, they feel a little bit

1657
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: scared to say something about it.

1658
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: So anyway, good luck.

1659
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: I will be chulling it in and I hope it's good,

1660
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: you know. And it is funny how people turn on

1661
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: that shit so fast. Oh god, it's so funny because

1662
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 2: I remember when it was thank God for the Red

1663
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: Table and interviewing Jordan's the girl from the Kardashian Ska,

1664
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: thank God for black women supporting each other, and then

1665
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: the second of day to take a risk or do

1666
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,919
Speaker 2: something that is that what a terrible idea?

1667
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 3: Like?

1668
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: They do a lot of good work on there, especially

1669
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: with Willow being there at the table. I love when

1670
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 2: they talk about like sex and they talk about relationships

1671
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: and stuff. I love that Willow's there for that shit

1672
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: because people don't really think about keep the kids and

1673
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: the younger generation need to be in the room because

1674
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: these things are happening. Motherfuckers watch Euphoria and go, man,

1675
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: it's widould these kids out here doing and then be

1676
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: like why they let Willow in on the conversation because

1677
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: these kids already doing this shit. You either have your

1678
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: kid talking to you about these things. Talking with you

1679
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,560
Speaker 2: about these things. They talking so somebody.

1680
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 4: Else, right, because they yeah, they ain't talking, they talk

1681
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 4: to somebody.

1682
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 3: I love them. They do great work.

1683
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: Ari Lennox branded entitled by fans after she complains about

1684
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: losing the Soul.

1685
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: Train Award to Lizzo.

1686
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: Ari Lennox took to Twitter at the Soul Train Awards

1687
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: on November seventeen to express her disappointment about her album

1688
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: Shay but the Baby losing the Album of the Year

1689
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: award a clap back.

1690
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 4: At critics, I don't know who this is.

1691
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,919
Speaker 3: Uh, she's a black woman singer. Uh.

1692
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of hers, and I'm not

1693
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: saying that in the shady way right when I'm saying

1694
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't like somebody. No, I just haven't really sat

1695
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: down and listened to it yet.

1696
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, she.

1697
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 2: Got uh like she she got a good following on

1698
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: on on black black people Twitter.

1699
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, because there's a lot of people that

1700
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 4: did somebody And I'm like, who, because you know me?

1701
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: But uh, you know Lizzo.

1702
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: People are saying she's more pop than the soul and

1703
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: so she shouldn't be winning an award of the Soul

1704
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 2: Train Awards, which is weird because Soul Trained Award doesn't

1705
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: reward just soul music. It's just called the Soul Train Awards.

1706
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: It's not really for soul music. But it was nominated

1707
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: for the prestigious honor alongside big names like lizz O,

1708
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, colleague Lama, and her. But when Lizzo's album

1709
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Because I Love You ultimately won the trophy, she made

1710
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: it known how she that she felt snubbed. It was

1711
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: not just an award, It wasn't any award show. It

1712
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: was a Soul Train Awards, and you can see I'm

1713
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: a big fan of soul music and a huge fan

1714
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: of Soul Trains history. One of ours many tweets read

1715
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: being snubbed was something I always expected. It was definitely

1716
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: prepared for, just not by them. My intent was to

1717
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: never shavee other nominaders. I'm hurt and I don't expect

1718
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 2: Soulis haters to understand that. Every time I wrapped my

1719
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: mind around it, I just can't accept it feels like

1720
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: a breakup.

1721
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: I made a sofa album. I never ran from who

1722
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 3: I am.

1723
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: I just expected that one platform to understand that her

1724
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: tweets supposed it didn't got the attention a minute us

1725
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: it didn't take long from them to start calling her

1726
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: out for complaining. Allright, Lennox has been entitled you felt

1727
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: you earned an award and it went to someone else.

1728
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: Look At how many artists who've been in the game

1729
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: twenty plus years and never received certain awards. Brian Lee

1730
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: Knight holds a record for most Grammy nominations ever without

1731
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: a single win. Ari Lennix got her first real taste

1732
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: of mainstream relevance, and now she believes she deserves all

1733
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: the recognition in the world. Y'all CAUs this when y'all

1734
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: may all her Instagram love stories go viral.

1735
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: Now she feels it.

1736
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: Title red another Ario was quick to respond to critics

1737
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: with the explanation why she felt she felt the way

1738
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: she did.

1739
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: Dear fake fans, please unfollow. I'm not the title. I'm hurt.

1740
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: There's deeper things I would love to say, but I

1741
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: just can't. It's not a titlement, it's blatant disrespect. All right,

1742
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: y'alllso seeing to indicate that she felt her loss to

1743
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: the award because she's not cool enough. It's clear I'm

1744
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: not cool enough, not trendy enough, and I don't care

1745
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: to be I don't strive for that. I'm not going

1746
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: to chase this shit ever again. No more fake shit

1747
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: on my part. Another one her tweets raise. In addition

1748
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: to critic suspinded to her tweets, supporters shared tweets from artists.

1749
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: From the artists, you're genuine. Uh that's what people need.

1750
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: You make necessary music with this world in the status

1751
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: and you allow people to skate. One follow responded Ari

1752
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: Lennox definitely should have one album, but the yeah a

1753
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Lizzo Lizzo got with the one song.

1754
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 3: Ariy has consecutive hit at the hit That's not.

1755
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: True as far as Liz only having the one song

1756
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: Lizo Uh, Liz Lizabeth album was on the charts like

1757
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 2: her songs was all on the charts too. Lizzo has

1758
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: yet to respond the artists disappointment about the loss. But

1759
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: well anna look out d Yeah.

1760
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: All I know is.

1761
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: Lizzo is kind of a sense of the person online

1762
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: as well. Ari singed like she had a very sensitive

1763
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: moment and shared a bunch of shit that she probably

1764
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: should have not shared.

1765
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 3: With the world because Twitter is not your friends.

1766
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Like when once you shared people have the

1767
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 4: right to force their opinion about it.

1768
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: It's a tough fucking lesson, but like that should be

1769
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 2: a text that should be uh group me, uh the whatever,

1770
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 2: like the DM. But you can't share shit like that

1771
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: with no consequences. That's like at twenty eight or whatever.

1772
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: It is what it is like now you gotta get

1773
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: fried for it. What I thought was interesting were the

1774
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: people that attacked Lizzo out of all this, because I

1775
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: thought it when the Uber East.

1776
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Thing happened, but I wasn't hundred scent sure what it was.

1777
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 2: But now that they did it over this where Lizo

1778
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: really was minding her fucking business and didn't say shit

1779
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 2: bad about nobody, and they still was coming for her

1780
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: neck and calling her music for white people and shit, yeah,

1781
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: somehow black people invented pop and rock and roll, But

1782
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: if you win an award in those lanes, you do

1783
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 2: shit for white people, okay.

1784
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 4: Because yeah, yeah, white people okay.

1785
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: And and you know, and to be fair, I used

1786
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: to feel and I actually came on the show and

1787
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: actually apologized about it, not I don't even know too,

1788
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: but just talked about how ridiculous I was. But I

1789
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 2: definitely needs to feel that way about rock music, and

1790
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: I did more research, and shit was like, wait, we

1791
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: convented that. Shit, Why do I think that's white people shit?

1792
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: That's me giving up space that I don't have to

1793
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: give up. That's me giving up ground for something that

1794
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: is black and calling it white, giving them credit for

1795
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: some shit. Same way thing with jazz. You know, Oh,

1796
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: that's white people music.

1797
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:27,879
Speaker 3: What how.

1798
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: That's ignorance on my part taking it out on some

1799
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: other people. So I think that's where a lot of

1800
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: people are where.

1801
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 3: They're being ignorant right now.

1802
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: But I thought that the reaction to Lizzo's uber eats

1803
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: thing was a bit over the top when it happened,

1804
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, it's fucked up. Yes, she apologized

1805
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: she shouldn't have did that, blah blah blah, but there

1806
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: was this kind of like vitriol that came in her

1807
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 2: while I was like, damn, I thought y'all liked her.

1808
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: You know, hey, she's body positivity, she's working.

1809
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 3: With the she's got a flute, she's talented.

1810
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 4: She's saying, you can only go, but so high.

1811
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 2: Baby, everybody, every all these motherfuckers are propped up for

1812
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 2: the fall box.

1813
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can only go, but so high, you get

1814
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 4: too high, or you quote uncle, or we feel like

1815
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 4: the white gaze is on you, or we feel like

1816
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 4: you're getting too many looks. Whatever it is, we've made

1817
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 4: up our minds and then it's no whole bars. We

1818
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 4: can we can talk about you being fat, we can talk.

1819
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 4: We gonna call you out about quote unquote all these

1820
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: things that we've had a problem with you all alone,

1821
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 4: but we didn't want to quote unquote go against the trend.

1822
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it seemed like Ari Lennox had a fucked

1823
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: up moment in public, u shitting one another, black women

1824
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: women and uh people fail into place, arguing about the

1825
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: fucking arguing about which black woman was better, rather than

1826
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 2: just being like, you know, and it is what it

1827
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 2: is like that most people are not gonna be able

1828
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 2: to look at that and me like, hey, dash, she's

1829
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 2: just clearly having a moment and need to like take

1830
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: that shit offline. You know, that's what you need friends,

1831
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: That's why you need friends, you know. So I said,

1832
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: what did she say about Lizzo? But it was all

1833
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: sub tweet shit. You I just read all the tweets.

1834
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 2: She didn't directly at Lizzo. But Lizzo won the award,

1835
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: So so basically she's basically saying like Lizo should not

1836
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 2: have won that award and that it's because Lizzo is

1837
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,839
Speaker 2: more quote unquote cool than her. So that's not basically

1838
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: saying it's not about her talent or her music or

1839
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: her ability and shit like that. So I don't know

1840
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: how anyone that won the award could read that and

1841
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 2: take it.

1842
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 4: As not an insult to them, not not a slight

1843
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 4: er anything like that. Like I said, I've never heard

1844
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 4: the other woman's music, but it don't mean she worked

1845
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 4: hard and Liz this is gorgeous for like now, it's funny.

1846
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 4: I did not realize Lizo could sing until I heard

1847
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 4: her most recent album.

1848
01:31:54,400 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I mean. And the other

1849
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 3: thing is I saw people.

1850
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 2: Some of the people I saw, I really don't know

1851
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 2: what they were thinking, but I saw people being like, it's.

1852
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 3: Just a soul trade awards.

1853
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm actually happy that black people care about

1854
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: a black award show. Agreed, that's dope, and I hope

1855
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: it continues. So, you know, to see people.

1856
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 3: Try to like downplay that shit, I don't know about that.

1857
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 2: And for the Album of the Year, it's not always

1858
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: sol no, I have the history for people that think

1859
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: it should be a go to soul album. Nineteen ninety seven,

1860
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 2: Tupac All Eyes on Me.

1861
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 4: That's definitely not so.

1862
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 2: That's hip hop right, nineteen ninety eight, Erica Baydu Bay Duism,

1863
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,799
Speaker 2: which is Neil So Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation in nineteen

1864
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine, which is soul in rap and pop shit

1865
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: a lot of genres. R Kelly Aura, that's that's solidly

1866
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 2: so Doctor Dre D Doctor Dre two thousand and one,

1867
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 2: definitely not so. Jay Z The Blueprint two thousand and two,

1868
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: definitely not so Nelly Nellyville. You know that's not so

1869
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Our cast speaker Box Love below, Beyonce, I Am Sasha, Fears, Usher,

1870
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 2: Raymond Versus Raymond, Chris Brown, Fame, that's a pop album.

1871
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 2: Frank Ocean Channel, Orange, Kendrick Lamar, goodkid Man City. You

1872
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: get the point. It's not a sole award for Album

1873
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: of the Year. So, you know, I'm sad that she

1874
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 2: didn't get the thing that she wanted.

1875
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: You know, you go back, you.

1876
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 4: Work harder, and yeah, and that's the thing. It can't

1877
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 4: be disappointing, you know, when you're a forwards and you

1878
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 4: lose like like that. That's a real thing, a real feeling.

1879
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, hopefully it works out for her

1880
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: in the future. Speaking of which, speaking of Lizzo, she

1881
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: is being officially sued by that postmate delivery person.

1882
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 4: I can tell about the language of that woman talking.

1883
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 3: I remember when we covered that story and.

1884
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 4: Her language was, oh, somebody got a hold of me,

1885
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 4: and I got the words.

1886
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: She was out there like, I just don't know. My

1887
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: emotional distress is causing me to miss time from work.

1888
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, this woman gonna see I said.

1889
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: People was like, Lizo should reach out privately and apologize.

1890
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, you mean privately an immense complicity, because that's

1891
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 2: what happens when people got lawyers. All of a sudden,

1892
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 2: you're trying to make amendsic like, and see she offered

1893
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: a hundred thousand, which means she definitely worth a million.

1894
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: We assuming this motherfucker.

1895
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 3: So I saw that shit was like this this will

1896
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 3: come the past, right.

1897
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 4: That's why when people get layers involved, people like there's

1898
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 4: no reason to talk down talk lawyers speaking.

1899
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: Yep, she said she really remember she was talking about

1900
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: feeling like her life was in danger and I'm not

1901
01:34:55,160 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 2: trying to Okay, I am trying to downplay it. I

1902
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 2: don't believe people are gonna kill her off of that tweet.

1903
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I don't know that she believes it.

1904
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 2: What I do know is if I was suing Lizzo,

1905
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 2: I would say it.

1906
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you put my face on Front Street, so

1907
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 4: it's the problem.

1908
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it because I want to get paid.

1909
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 2: So yes, I was scared for my life because you

1910
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: know how Lizzo fans be out here killing people left

1911
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: and right, Like, come on, man, if I'm.

1912
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 3: Suing, I think listen, I thought them niggas gonna kill me.

1913
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm prayed to come out out. I don't do

1914
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: nothing but stay in the house with the lights off, y'all. Okay, Now,

1915
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: gonna get out of here.

1916
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 4: He keep the room dark. It's traumatizing that gun.

1917
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 3: So it is what it.

1918
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: Is, and Joe Rue is officially clear to the lawsuit

1919
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: over the Firefest.

1920
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 4: Scammer never dies never, never.

1921
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 2: Never a child was firted working in the kitchen of

1922
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: an understand Pockpys in Texas.

1923
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: Took the baby to work and be like, your ass

1924
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 4: back here, take.

1925
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 3: Your children to work day is coming earlier and earlier

1926
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 3: every year.

1927
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 4: It ain't it though, instead of having them just sitting

1928
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 4: the lobbying doodle.

1929
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a lot of pressure of all the places

1930
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: for a child to be learning how to domn right.

1931
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 3: We don't want it to be a pope with the

1932
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:20,879
Speaker 3: chicken sound.

1933
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,879
Speaker 4: All in grease and then then ship frying.

1934
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, dag. I thought I had the article that

1935
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: there was a picture of the child.

1936
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: Someone took a picture of it on their phone and

1937
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: they blurred their face out.

1938
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 3: But the part that sent me and I know.

1939
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be laughing at this because it's terrible abuse,

1940
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 2: but y'all the baby had an apron on.

1941
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 4: Oh they put that baby to work.

1942
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they put that baby to work work.

1943
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 4: Somebody was like, uh, I'm tired of you sitting up

1944
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: here doing nothing. Come back here and get busy.

1945
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: Get the busy. Like, they put that child to actual work.

1946
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 4: That baby had got on somebody's then somebody's got damn

1947
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 4: nervous and like look, no, no, no, no, no, no, you

1948
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 4: think it's the motherfucker. I ain't bring your lassa, I

1949
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 4: can't get the work. Boy.

1950
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 2: I thought the kid was gonna be like just handing

1951
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: somebody a piece of chicken.

1952
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 3: No, that kid.

1953
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 2: Giving raw chicken a male staff member who went on

1954
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 2: to cook it and he was part of the team.

1955
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 2: Shout out to the person that took the picture, because

1956
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, my next question is, did you did sit

1957
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: around and wait for your chicken sandwich?

1958
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to them, because you know what, everybody

1959
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 4: else did look at that baby and go, yeah, I

1960
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 4: want five chicken sandwiches. Okay, I came for the two

1961
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 4: piece box. Everybody else did know the fuck out of

1962
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 4: that child, because I believe you me, they ain't the

1963
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 4: only one to see that child.

1964
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: But I just want to know if they saw the child,

1965
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 2: took the picture, but did still still in line for

1966
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: their chicken salwich.

1967
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: That's the question.

1968
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't want took a picture.

1969
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: But I know they the only one took a picture.

1970
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Care I'm not saying I feel like everyone was new

1971
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 2: and was waiting on the chicken salach. I just I'm

1972
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: not sure it makes you a better person that you

1973
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: took a picture and still was like, Yes, I was like,

1974
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: I like too spicy chicken sandwiches.

1975
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 4: Yes, they waited.

1976
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's not taking a little a little

1977
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: long junior. That's why they really took the picture. So

1978
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 3: I took the picture in the first place.

1979
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 4: But this one myself said to goddamn Long, got that

1980
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 4: baby baked.

1981
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: Right, needed you need to hurry up on that grill,

1982
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: little boy, and get you the sandwich tied as ship.

1983
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 4: Okay them sure there has arms.

1984
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, Okay.

1985
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 4: They probably couldn't stand the butter fryer.

1986
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 3: Alright, mommy, we can we go home now, A nigga

1987
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 3: me small chicken.

1988
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: Oh I gotta do this for free? Yes, yes, yes,

1989
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:42,839
Speaker 4: for free.

1990
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: This is what happened when your parents don't whoop you,

1991
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 2: they make you go to work and do chicken instead.

1992
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: They make you work.

1993
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna now see this was gonna happen.

1994
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 2: You keep getting them d's okay, you're gonna be in

1995
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 2: here with me doing chicken every day?

1996
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Is that what you want? Your own? Hand me another breast.

1997
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 4: That will change my life for Mama. I'm going to college. Mama,

1998
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 4: never fuck again.

1999
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking

2000
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 3: with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

2001
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 2: That's right, guys, time to play the game. We all

2002
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 2: hate to play. It's fucking with black people.

2003
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 3: The game. We go all around to go, we find

2004
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 3: every articles make us feel fucked with the Willson.

2005
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 2: Points scorch with zil tie hundred and twenty five. Today's

2006
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: the testis everybody is.

2007
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: All right?

2008
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Story number one for fucking with black people. Michael Bloomberg

2009
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 2: pushed stopping first policing, and now he is apologizing ahead

2010
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: of a potential Democratic presidential run. Former Mayor Michael R.

2011
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: Bloomberg of New York.

2012
01:39:57,479 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 4: We has negative of black folks.

2013
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 3: Okay, negative percent of black folks, but vote votes, Oh votes, Yes,

2014
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 3: black folks voting.

2015
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, black folks. People look like, I.

2016
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 2: Don't understand New York because New York is supposedly like

2017
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 2: it's really quote unquote liberal place according to all the

2018
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 2: angry Republicans.

2019
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 3: But like they got some.

2020
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 2: Like Rudy Giliani, this nigga, Like they got some whack

2021
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 2: niggas that they have voted for that are clearly overtly racist,

2022
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 2: and shit, they the.

2023
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 4: Male is so racist. He made a rule that he

2024
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 4: can have a third term and then turn around and

2025
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 4: was like I'm gonna make it so can't nobody else

2026
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 4: ever do this again?

2027
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2028
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 2: They blow they voted for, Like, what's that Nick bild

2029
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 2: of Blasio? But they hate him now?

2030
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand how these niggas keep winning. What

2031
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 3: are the rules in New York right now? Is it?

2032
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:47,480
Speaker 3: Like because.

2033
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: I hate the slander the New York contingent of black

2034
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: folks again, but are they just weaker than.

2035
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: Us down here? Is that what's happening? Are they just

2036
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 3: letting Fat Joe say nigga?

2037
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 2: And then it extrapolates the letting these stopping frish cass

2038
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 2: niggas being charged, Like what's happening?

2039
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 3: How are they doing this to our people up there?

2040
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 4: Hold the line? You know why? Because they're doing the

2041
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 4: same ship to them up there, to they doing us

2042
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 4: down here pressing the vote.

2043
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: They must be I'm gonna go you know what, car,

2044
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with that because I.

2045
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: Refuse polls left and right and ship.

2046
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I've never met a black person that liked this dude.

2047
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 4: They was like, we're gonna be sure niggas don't vote.

2048
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 2: The Vozio got a black son with an afro, and

2049
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 2: I still nobody likes him. Like, I'm just not sure

2050
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:38,799
Speaker 2: what's happening up there? Did these motherfuckers somehow keep winning anyway.

2051
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: So this one is running for president now and he's

2052
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,879
Speaker 2: defended stopping first for years after being out office.

2053
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 3: But in front of an.

2054
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 2: Alreadience, See declared during the speech, I was wrong and

2055
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 2: I am sorry.

2056
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: For his stopping frist policy.

2057
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 4: Mhm m hm.

2058
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 2: H m.

2059
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 3: Come on, Mike, come cut the rub with us.

2060
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 2: Joe billionaire ass have a seat over here next to

2061
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 2: Jay Z and Beyonce and Oprah. I'm not a place

2062
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 2: pay you know, gonna teach you today or you're just

2063
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: like coming us Fade.

2064
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 3: We're gonna put you in charge security. We don't want

2065
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 3: about getting in with no guns. So I just need

2066
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 3: to stop it. Friss, that was a test.

2067
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: That was a test, all right, with the tops away.

2068
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 3: Hey, all you gotta say is you sorry? And you

2069
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 3: welcome to the cookout?

2070
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 4: No you get a gold plate?

2071
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 3: What? Why?

2072
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 4: No? You stand on the outside and smell the fresh

2073
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 4: fried fish.

2074
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what this is, Karen, This is this

2075
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: happens all the time. Karen wasn't listening earlier. I'll repeat it.

2076
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 2: He said, I was wrong and I am sorry, sorry, sorry?

2077
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 3: Got she Sometimes Carrien.

2078
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 2: Just gets carried away because she does it listen to it,

2079
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 2: so no.

2080
01:43:54,240 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 3: Wrong, He's sorry, don't go down, and I am.

2081
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,759
Speaker 4: I gonna be the one person outside the cookout protesting.

2082
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: One hot this time? Nope. Whoa gonna teach you how

2083
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 3: to electric clock?

2084
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 4: Nope?

2085
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,759
Speaker 3: Wow okay, wow, tough tough crowd.

2086
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he first is the first be since he re

2087
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 2: emerges the possible presidential candidate, hopping in late but still

2088
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 2: did the dimmercrats know that when one of them drops out,

2089
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 2: you don't have to replace them with two, like a hoigh,

2090
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 2: like a fucking head of the hydra, right.

2091
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 4: Right, It's like, people, we want this group. We wanted

2092
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 4: to get smaller because I'm to the point. That's how funny.

2093
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck until we narrowed this. It's

2094
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 4: too many. It's like a fucking clown car. Narrow it down,

2095
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 4: get into the good four people. Then you got my attention.

2096
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 4: I don't care to Then.

2097
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard they still be doing stop at first,

2098
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 3: but just not officially. No, mom, come on, that's what

2099
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:56,719
Speaker 3: I heard.

2100
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 4: Yes, why would they give it up?

2101
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: He also said that black people was the reason he

2102
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 2: did stop and frisk to support us like he gave

2103
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 2: like chomocrat, he like Black people love to stopping frish.

2104
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 4: No, no, that's why I'll be protesting at the cookout.

2105
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 4: Of course you play you can get no aluminum full.

2106
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 2: It heavily targeted black and brown young man. This is

2107
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 2: what's funny to me is this is the kind of

2108
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 2: shit that people accused Hillary Clinton are doing well. Hillary

2109
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 2: Clinton had fucking abandoned and apologized for comments years before

2110
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 2: running for officer.

2111
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 3: People still was like, look at this panderin This.

2112
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Nigga actually is legitimately slapped in your face pandering. Like

2113
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 2: the day before this, I was up here like stopping

2114
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 2: frisk is good. Black people love it.

2115
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 3: It worked.

2116
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Fuck every steady, Fuck all the results, Fuck all the

2117
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: lives I.

2118
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: Ruined than wind. I don't know what he's doing.

2119
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 4: Pulling that negative two percent, talk about I'm gonna win.

2120
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 4: He can get the fuck out of hair.

2121
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 2: You know what I think is happening, Lizabeth Warren keep

2122
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: talking about taxing these billionaires, and the billionaires are turning

2123
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: into motherfucking thingos like fuck it, I'll do it myself.

2124
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 2: I know he didn't say fuck it, but y'all know, yeah,

2125
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 2: I'll do it myself, and putting on a billionaire glove

2126
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: and be like, I'll just run for office.

2127
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's And the other

2128
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 3: thing is.

2129
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 2: That I said this shit in twenty sixteen, Donald Trump

2130
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,919
Speaker 2: successfully lowered the qualifications to be a candidate.

2131
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 4: Yes, because now any dumb ass anywhere, I'd be like,

2132
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 4: I can run.

2133
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 2: And that's why I was like, y'all are afraid Oprah's

2134
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 2: gonna run? Because y'all think Oprah lost her mind suddenly

2135
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 2: because he lowered the qualifications to rich famous, Why not run?

2136
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 3: You got name recognition, why not run? Just fuck it?

2137
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 3: Fuck if you can do the job. Actually just running.

2138
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 3: And that's why we have so many.

2139
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Democratic candidates now because everybody that got like three friends

2140
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 2: on Twitter feel like they can run. The shit Like,

2141
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 2: you know what, I have twelve followers, think I'm ready

2142
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: to run for president?

2143
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2144
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Until Sunday, he had steadfast league at his critics say,

2145
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: stubbornly defended stopping frist and mocking only mocking only a

2146
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 2: few months ago, the very notion of undertaking an apology

2147
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 2: tour for his broader record. He's still behind the program

2148
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 2: which gave New York police officers sweeping authority to stop

2149
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 2: and search anyone inspected of a crime, even.

2150
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,440
Speaker 3: After a federal judge ruled in twenty thirteen.

2151
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: That it violates constitutional rights and minorities, Though he is

2152
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 2: now distanced himself the policing approach that has another prominent champion,

2153
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 2: President Trump, who called for it to be used nationwide

2154
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen and praise the taxics again last year.

2155
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 3: Yep, I don't think that's not coming. Two signs of

2156
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 3: sin one. But yeah, so I can't imagine what his

2157
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 3: pole numbers are. They can't be high.

2158
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 4: Nope, he can kiss my ass.

2159
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how this nigga won election in New York.

2160
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't know.

2161
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 3: Somebody gona righte and explain that.

2162
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 2: I'm sure ship probably several of you niggas because y'all

2163
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 2: in New York and I made voter suppression.

2164
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 3: It's gotta be something, yes, And by the way, it's.

2165
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: Not just him, like, it's a lot of motherfuckers that

2166
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 2: don't like Giuliani.

2167
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 3: And now they don't like the Bosio.

2168
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: So how they keep winning? I wonder because they don't

2169
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 2: like them motherfuckers. I don't know anyway, Uh, good, look

2170
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 2: zero to a hundred.

2171
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 4: Oh he get a hundred because as soon as he lose,

2172
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 4: you're gonna be back to Friskin.

2173
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saved your cards for him. Fuck him. That's

2174
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 3: such blatant panderin.

2175
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 4: Right then you act like we too dumb to know

2176
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 4: what the fuck you.

2177
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Doing, Like you didn't even try.

2178
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 4: Didn't even try like.

2179
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: Months ago, you was like just months ago. Come on, man, Judge,

2180
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Joe Brown is in the news.

2181
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 2: He is not here for Harriet tub Miss twenty dollars

2182
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 2: bill because he says putting a black woman on the

2183
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: front of us krent before a black man gets that

2184
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 2: honor as is an before, is an insult to the

2185
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: black race.

2186
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 3: Oh Judge, Joe Brown, Oh judge.

2187
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 4: For real? Is this this not an Onion article here?

2188
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 3: Are you smoking crack? Judge?

2189
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 4: He would have said that.

2190
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 2: I mean, the shocking comments were made done a recent

2191
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 2: interview he did.

2192
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 3: With The Breakfast Club doctor Umar Johnson.

2193
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got a question for you, judge, if

2194
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,679
Speaker 2: I could, Why is your audio so bad?

2195
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 11: Because I would hate for any listeners and particularly feminists,

2196
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 11: to misinterpret your comments earlier on Harriet Damn about feminist.

2197
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 6: They can go great the hell and I know they

2198
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 6: hate themselves because they got two x chromosomes instead of

2199
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 6: an ex y.

2200
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 11: There is this.

2201
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 3: An impression of doctor of Judge O Brown. It really

2202
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:03,879
Speaker 3: im this, I hope not really a hotel.

2203
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 4: Ope, it's not real.

2204
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 2: No, no, Judge o' runners a hotel.

2205
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: I had no idea they for real. I think it's

2206
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 3: really him, Kay.

2207
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't.

2208
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 2: Maybe it's I mean, I don't think Umar Johnson is

2209
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: known for his comedy skits.

2210
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 6: Is this faith shell fading and they're sick?

2211
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 11: Well? I'm also I also wanted to clarify for me

2212
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 11: as well, Judge, because I know you had mentioned Thirdwood Marshall,

2213
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 11: Doctor King, Frederick Douglass, and I just wanted to clarify

2214
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 11: with you that your comments were not suggested of saying

2215
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 11: that by doing the Harriet Submon movies that that somehow

2216
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 11: undermined the works of those great male leaders, because that's

2217
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 11: what its it's good like.

2218
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 6: But the objective is, I've heard it from the Hollig

2219
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 6: with sources I have. These feminists are trying to do

2220
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 6: this movie so they can get a black woman put

2221
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 6: on a twenty dollar bill.

2222
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 4: That's not a truth sent.

2223
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:26,719
Speaker 3: Oh you crazy?

2224
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: I have.

2225
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 3: Just can't be real. This can't be real. This can't.

2226
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: This has to be fake.

2227
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: This sounds like here, we're doing this on blog spot.

2228
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 2: It was on spreaker dot com, which we are. Yeah,

2229
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: it's a platform I would never use. I'm going to

2230
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: the YouTube where the video is posted this. Maybe the

2231
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 2: comments will say it's a joke.

2232
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 3: Please be a joke.

2233
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it is.

2234
01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: What is just Joe Brown doing.

2235
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 2: Street Fighter heated debate snippet Part one or two too

2236
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 2: uti this is only by Valerie Denise Jones.

2237
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,919
Speaker 4: Uh.

2238
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 2: The comments did not see the thing as a joke.

2239
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 3: I love judge Joe Brown grew with everything he's saying. Here,

2240
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 3: speak the truth, Speak the motherfucking truth. Judge O Brown

2241
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 3: is right. I didn't even see this, ain't until he

2242
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:31,799
Speaker 3: made his point. He's so wise.

2243
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 4: Oh you're going in the comment section.

2244
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, but I wanted to see if they would

2245
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 2: be like, ha ha girl, that's a good impression.

2246
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 3: No, we still.

2247
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 4: At the comment section.

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01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 6: No, this movie is to soften the public up to

2249
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 6: the idea of taking a black woman.

2250
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 11: Who free slaves.

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01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 6: By leading them to freedom and getting her another one,

2252
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 6: like on a twenty dollar bill. They can't get a

2253
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 6: white woman, so they want a black woman. They don't care.

2254
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 6: They just want a woman, and it downs masculinity. Now,

2255
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 6: everybody on a bill is not a dead president. Don't

2256
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 6: forget Ben Franklin. He was never a president. So that's

2257
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 6: plenty of precedent to put in somebody black who was

2258
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:18,560
Speaker 6: never a president.

2259
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 11: Like let's say, if we want.

2260
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 6: To go back to the nineteenth century, like all the

2261
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 6: rest of the people are on there, died off in

2262
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 6: in the nineteenth century or the eighteenth century. We've got

2263
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 6: Ben Franklin, so we can have.

2264
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 11: Fredrick Douglas. But you see, I mean, do you That's

2265
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 11: what I'm saying. Okay, but you don't have a problem

2266
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 11: with a black woman. And in this case, Harriet telling

2267
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 11: me being memorialized in whatever way that comes. You don't

2268
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 11: have a problem with that, do you? Or do you

2269
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 11: gotta problem if it's on a bill before they put

2270
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 11: a black man's face on one, I have a big problem.

2271
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 11: Why why he calls the story of the black matters?

2272
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 6: So an ethnic group is determined by its men, not

2273
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 6: oh God, And that you put a black woman on

2274
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 6: there before a black man is insulting to the black

2275
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 6: race because you're saying the men ain't worth the damn

2276
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 6: put a woman off there?

2277
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 11: Burst?

2278
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 3: Just how is he employed? Does he? Did he retire

2279
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 3: from Stevie show?

2280
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 4: Right? How is Uma the voice reason?

2281
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:25,799
Speaker 3: What is heavening?

2282
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2283
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 2: I know thom hotels don't like this ship. I know

2284
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 2: the know the hotels. I know the hotels don't like

2285
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 2: doctor doctor. Like, now, hold on, man, you're gonna look

2286
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: too far.

2287
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I just call him Queen's I mean, you're

2288
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 4: going too far. The brother brother, brother, You're wrong, that's not.

2289
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 2: True, Doctor Umar Frederick that was gonna be on the

2290
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: be on the twenty dollars bill.

2291
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. And ain't nobody gonna believe this? Nobody?

2292
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

2293
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 2: And I know they don't like it because the comment said,

2294
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 2: why is Umar acting up to? I'm so sick of

2295
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: him lately. It's clear that if me must survive, our

2296
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 2: men must be leader. Ooh na, oh wow wow. These

2297
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 2: niggas are mad for what is the point of putting

2298
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 2: a black woman on a worthless dollar bill that is

2299
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: constantly depreciating?

2300
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 3: But I do agree with Judge Joe Brown.

2301
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: This country it's all about emsculating the black man by

2302
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 2: uplifting the black woman. First, that movie was all about

2303
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: romanticizing the slave and the slave master and making the

2304
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: black man the villain big along. Really, I don't get

2305
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: why people don't see the symbolism in that movie.

2306
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 3: Hollywood is full of it.

2307
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 4: Oh you know they was tweeting onto it about it.

2308
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, dose Dania.

2309
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: Uh come on, Judge, five clap of motions.

2310
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,839
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred A man not afraid

2311
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 3: to tell the truth.

2312
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 2: All caps, God bless you, Judge, Please keep spraying the truth.

2313
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm a woman, and I say, what what they're trying

2314
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 3: to do to our men?

2315
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: I see what they're trying to do to our men,

2316
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 2: keeping them at the bottom with the only group where

2317
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 2: they respect the woman for they respect the man.

2318
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 3: And it's not by accident, it's intentional fucking feminists. So

2319
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 3: glad we.

2320
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: Still have men like the Honorable Judge Joe Brown standing

2321
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: tall on the front line representing our people like that's

2322
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: supposedly represented. They want our men to hide behind their women.

2323
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 2: Shaking my head, May God bless the rewart.

2324
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 3: Nope, I will not anything. Ends would pick.

2325
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 4: Me, choose me.

2326
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 3: Click here Hotel Tris, I.

2327
01:56:50,720 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 2: Choose you, Yeah and hind you all right, Umar co

2328
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: elects most of his donations from black women for a school.

2329
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 2: He's not going to agree with Judge Joe Brown, even

2330
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 2: though he's right.

2331
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 3: I'll follow the money.

2332
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 2: I guess followed the hotel money. Goddamn, Judge Joe Brown.

2333
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's just that's just very special.

2334
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 3: Is he on crack?

2335
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 12: What you just said is one of the most insanely

2336
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 12: idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in

2337
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 12: your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything

2338
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 12: that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this

2339
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 12: room is now dumber for having listened to it. I

2340
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 12: award you no points and may God have mercy on

2341
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 12: your soul.

2342
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 3: Judge Joe Brown the one to accuse everybody be on crack? Right,

2343
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this nigga.

2344
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 11: I disagree. I don't think.

2345
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 6: Leadership race by saying em poems. Your sense of responsibility

2346
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 6: on motherhood is start raising some decent young men instead

2347
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 6: of these little monsters that you have running around the

2348
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 6: house where you don't want to have a father involved

2349
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 6: with them, being real mothers and pay attention to it.

2350
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 3: How is the woman.

2351
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: I never understand that argument because they always skip over

2352
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 2: the fact that the men grow up to be terrible men,

2353
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 2: and then the men don't raise their children, and then

2354
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: the women don't want monstrous men around the children. And

2355
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 2: then they also say it's the woman's fault, But it's

2356
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: never the fact that a nigga becomes a monster and

2357
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 2: it's on them.

2358
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 4: Is Judge mathis the one that say about on crack?

2359
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: Maybe Judge Matthews is crack? I don't Yeah, you know what,

2360
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Judge Matthews is cracked? Okay, yeah, Judge Joe Brown's not cracked.

2361
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 2: Judge Matthes think everybody on crack. It don't matter what

2362
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 2: the fuck you in that for.

2363
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 4: You did some crack. Yeah, I'm in here for weed.

2364
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, he stole my puppy. It's the puppy on crack,

2365
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 2: Like the fuck you sold the puppy for crack. Let's

2366
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 2: be honest.

2367
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 4: Somebody in here own some crack.

2368
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 3: I smell crack. Who got some crack in my chain?

2369
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 4: Is that a hint of crack?

2370
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: I would like to meet whoever has the crack in

2371
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 2: my chambers for a brief recession. We'll be back in

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Let's take a crack recess everyone. I'm gonna

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01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: give everybody an hour to go find crack. I know

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01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 2: all your crackers need to do some crack and meet

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01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 2: me in the back of y'all meet me out back.

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01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he sells crack. Maybe that's what it is.

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2378
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 3: He's like, are you on crack? Would you like to be?

2379
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 4: I got the best shit in down.

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01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 2: If you got twenty dollars, you can be on crack

2381
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 2: my courtroom. Okay, you just need to play your cards

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02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 2: right and you get some crack. I guarantee you that.

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02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 2: God damn Judge Maths a hotel boy, I don't know

2384
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 2: how this.

2385
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 3: What is this world coming on to?

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02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 12: Man?

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02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 3: Judge overron the hotel? I mean, not Judge matthis what

2388
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 3: is the world coming to mm hmmm?

2389
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 2: All right, uh, you know what we've been two hours.

2390
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:25,760
Speaker 2: Let's do the soy of ratchiness and get out of here.

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02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay.

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02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was zero to one hundred. Oh everybody,

2393
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: everybody fucking cars this nigga. Everybody that is ridiculous.

2394
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna put her on there before a black man

2395
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 2: because you know, they're trying to destroy to masculate us.

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02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 3: My Hollywood sources.

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02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 4: I'm surprised he even go to doing doing that. I

2398
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 4: ain't gonna do nothing make the black man gay? What

2399
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 4: what I didn't finish gay black men like like this

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02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 4: it's five minutes. Oh yeah, you know he crossed all

2401
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 4: the lines.

2402
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 3: Damn umars really need that school money.

2403
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 4: He was, don't know how it works.

2404
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 3: I know the baby mamas was like, when was this

2405
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 3: one I needed you to take up for me?

2406
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 2: Uh The TSA is official Instagram account show it's strange

2407
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 2: items they found throughout the year.

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02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

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02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 2: A man learned the hard way Friday that swords don't

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02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 2: belong and carry on luggage no ship.

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02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 4: You become a lot of them stories people like ooh,

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02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 4: I forgot. They was like, yeah, dog, this needs to

2413
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 4: go in the bottom of the plane.

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02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 3: Maybe this is the old story because South Power was

2415
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 3: it was that the last one.

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02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 4: I don't know we could they literally start blending together.

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02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 4: The other one, the one you read before headed like

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02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 4: ts A.

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02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 2: The other one was this is this is the same one? Yeah,

2420
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 2: because he said he could. He thought he could carry

2421
02:01:58,360 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 2: because of.

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02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:01,280
Speaker 3: The value of what that shit the ball of the plane.

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02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 3: All right, let's find a different one then, guys.

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02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 4: How about so they didn't say you couldn't have it,

2425
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 4: They just said you can't have it on the plane.

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02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 2: San Antonio man got stabbed with a sword after asking

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02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 2: for his laptop back.

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02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 4: Oh shit.

2429
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 2: He has not been identified to believes he had let

2430
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 2: someone borrow his laptop when he asked for it back

2431
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 2: to suspect stabbed him with the sword in the shoulder

2432
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 2: and he fell down the stairs. First responders arrived to

2433
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 2: the resident around twelve thirty a. The victim was taken

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02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 2: to the hospital stable condition.

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02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 4: Oh deadly sword?

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02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 3: Can I borrow your laptop?

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02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 4: Sure?

2438
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 3: Person with a sword?

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02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 2: Ha what?

2440
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 3: It's not your fault. But it's not not your fault,

2441
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 3: all right, y'all. That's it. We'll talk to you guys

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02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 3: tomorrow for our walking Dead everycat. Thanks for listening. Until

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02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 3: next time. I love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 2: Wh