1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: and there's chucking. It's just us, but that's okay because 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: we today are doing stuff you should know. The heat 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: wave addition, that's the heat brows of the fact. Have 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you been singing that song all day? I've been trying 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: so hard not to and it's not working. How about you? 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's Martha Invent and the Vandellas. How can 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: you not? Yeah? The problem is is all I just 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: it's just this constant loop of heat wave like heat wave, 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: I know, heat wave. Just that's it over and that's 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: the only part I know. And it's terrible. I think 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: I know that. One of the first lines is uh 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: whenever we oh near me. Oh, that's the same song. 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I think, so right, because I'm I thinking of something. No, 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I think it is. But every movie that ever uses 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: it just uses that first line and then starts to 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: fade out before they get to the heat wave card. 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: So I never put two and two together. A great song, 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: great song, for sure, But you don't want just heat 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: wave on a loop in your head. I can tell you. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Uh no, No, I just looked at the lyrics and 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm wrong anyway, But whenever I'm with him, Okay, but 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: it's that's what you're talking about. It's not like a 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: totally different song or something. Whenever I'm with him, something 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: inside starts to burning and I'm filled with desire. Heat wave? 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Could it be a devil in me? Heat wave? The 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: way love is supposed to be? He'd wave, Yes, All right, 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: let's done. Let's never speak of that again. Sexy song. 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was that sexy. Well, sure, she 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: talking about getting all hot for a dude, you know, 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your over. That's not what There's nothing 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: sexy about the heat wave that we're talking about. No, 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: deadly maybe the antithesis of sexy. Yeah, they think about 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: it heat wave sex. And there's such a thing as 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: cold waves, which will touch on briefly. They are very 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: much related to heat waves are kind of its polar opposite, 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: if you'll excuse the pun, but the you could make 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: a case that that would be far sexier than a 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: heat wave. Yeah. At least you're you know, warming yourself up, right, 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Uh, And boy, we we used a 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of great weather website references for this one, right, Yeah, yeah, great, great, 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: great segue there, chuck. So, um, we got some info 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: from from Noah j No. Actually, the thing is, I 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: can't even be taken seriously when I'm trying to be 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: serious and genuine like that was genuine. I'm still learning. 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: So that was so Noah gave us a bunch of information, 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: your nephew. Um. There's also the Center for Climate Change 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and Energy Solutions. Is this my cue? Yep uh, World 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Weather Attribution, the New York Times, the failing New York Times, NASA, 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: ACU Weather, Yeah, and a bunch more, but those are 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: the ones that we got the meat of this stuff from. Yeah, 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: and we're talking about heat waves, which is the I 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: was about to call it a phenomenon. I don't know 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: if it is categorized at that, but it's a weather event. 56 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: It's a natural disaster. Well yeah, and as we'll see, 57 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: one of one of the worst. It is when there 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: are consecutive days where the temperature is higher than usually 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: is that is to say, higher than the historical average. 60 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: But there's no like it depends on where you are. 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: What is uh, what a heat wave is like, It's 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily like three days and it's eight degrees hotter 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: than usual for those three days. Now, because it varies 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: region to region, like in New Hampshire, a heat wave 65 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: of two days, two days or two consecutive days where 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: it's ninety degrees fare hight or more is a heat wave. 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: And that's just like yawn to those of us down 68 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: in the southeast. That's like a fairly nice day. Yeah, 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: it's regional, like spices that go in hot dogs, right. 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: But the thing is is like that depends the reason 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that they do that. The reason there's no single definition 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: for heat waves because people are acclimated to different kinds 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: of weather, and if you're not acclimated to warm weather, 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it's going to affect you and your body a lot worse. 75 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: So it makes a lot of sense. But the two 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: days in a row as low as ninety degrees fair 77 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: at height, that's the minimum that I've seen in the 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: United States that constitutes a legit heat wave. I'm sorry, 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a legit heat wave. Oh boy, we're gonna 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: do that the whole time. I think I'm going to okay. Um, 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: this one speaks to my heart because, as everyone who's 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: ever listening to the show much knows and as you 83 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: my friends certainly know, I am a I'm a polar bear. 84 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: So the sun and humidity is not good for Chuck. 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. I grew up in 86 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the South, and it's it's worse now. It feels like 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: it's not like I've gotten acclimated, Like you know, it's 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: easy to say you get acclimated. But even as as 89 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: much as I sweat, which is a I can't imagine 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: how hot I would be if I didn't sweat like 91 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I sweat. Well, yeah, you'd be like one of those 92 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: people who can't sweat and can die from it. But 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: when I lived in l a uh, it can get 94 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: very hot out there, but generally if you can park 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: it under a tree, you might get a breeze and 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: you can sweat and you're cooling down pretty good. But 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: it's it's there's no relief when you live in the 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: South because of humidity. We're going to talk about all that, 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: but I just want to kind of set set up 100 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: my personal involvement with heat waves, which is boo thumbs down. 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: You're personally involved through sweatiness, is what you're saying. Yeah, 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: and when those heat waves, especially the late heat waves 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: in the summer when it should be cooling down come through. 104 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: It's just it makes me mad. Yeah, those are not 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: fun because your your bodies in your mind has been 106 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: like okay, great, it's fall, and then you're just dog 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: days summer again. It's terrible. I'm with you on that. 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: But how did these things come about to begin with? 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Why is it hot for a week straight way hotter 110 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: than it normally is, and why doesn't is just cool 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: down every night? Well, first we should say, because I 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: don't want to lose anybody this early on if they're like, uh, 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: two days in a row of ninety degree weather? Why 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: are you guys even talking about this? The reason we 115 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: are talking about this because, like we said, Chuck, Noah 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: classifies heat waves as a disaster, and a lot of 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: really terrible stuff can happen during a heat wave, even 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: of just a few days. Like it's it's a an invisible, silent, 119 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: deadly natural disaster that we're only beginning to awaken. Too, 120 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: silent but deadly. So as you're saying how do heat 121 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: waves work, you're kind of set me up for that one, right, Well, yeah, 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: but I thought you were going to hit him with 123 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: the big stat which is heat waves kill more people 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: than all other natural disasters combined. Um or I think 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: you saw somewhere else all but hurricane. But point being, 126 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: they kill a lot of people, like way more than 127 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, and even if they don't necessarily kill 128 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: more than uh, kill more people at least in the 129 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: United States. That it was just the statistic I saw. 130 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Um then all other natural disasters combined, that at the 131 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: very least, it kills more people per year than all 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: other natural disasters. It's the deadliest kind of natural disaster. 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: The thing is is it doesn't happen all at once, 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: like say a flood that takes a bunch of people's 135 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: lives in a very a very acute area, right concentrated area. Um. 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: It happened slowly over the course of days in a 137 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: very large region, and people just kind of die. And 138 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: it's not immediately apparent like like, oh, I found you 139 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: in floodwater, you drowned in a flood. It's I found 140 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: you dead on your sofa, you know, in your apartment. 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not maybe you had a heart attack or 142 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: something like that. It's it's not That's what I was saying. 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: We're just beginning to awaken to it because it's not 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: an obvious natural disaster, but it is most decidedly a 145 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: natural disaster. Yeah, that's a good point. Like it's not 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: quite as grabby in the news. I mean, they certainly 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: report on it, but it's not and you know, the 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: news is is well, I don't want to talk about 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: the news. Um, let's talk about heat waves. Heat waves, 150 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: that's right. So the whole thing about a heat wave 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: is it's a basically a warm mass of hot air 152 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: that's a just a lope or no, a high pressure system. 153 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: So let me just restate that less confusingly. It's a 154 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: high pressure system that's made up of very stagnant, still 155 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: warm air that kind of finds its way over a 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: region and doesn't move for a little while and things 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: get really oppressive during that period. Yeah, And these high 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: pressure systems are just part of the normal weather patterns 159 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: and they generally kind of circulate clockwise and kind of 160 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: move on through. Uh. The jet stream takes care of that, thankfully. 161 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: That that west to east air current that moves pushes 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: all the weather around, always shoving the weather around in 163 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the northern hemisphere at least. Yeah, well, come on, is 164 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: there any other hemisphere, sorry, America's centric or anything. No, 165 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: not at all, but are in the northern hemisphere. The 166 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: jet stream hits us about at the belt between Canada's 167 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: shirt and America's jeans. And like I said, it usually 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: pushes stuff around and it'll get hot and then it'll 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: push that hot stuff out. But during the summertime, the 170 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: jet stream slows down. Uh. They have found that overall, 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk, you know, quite a bit about 172 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: climate change. Overall, it's slowing down period some, but in 173 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: the summertime it's it definitely slows down from its you know, 174 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: two and fifty mile per hour or so peak. And 175 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna obviously keep that hot weather there a little longer. Yeah, 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: even under normal conditions, let alone climate change conditions. So 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: when all of the all those factors are are kind 178 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: of falling into place where the jet stream is feeling 179 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: a little logy and not moving too quickly, and there's 180 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a big mass of hot air that kind of moves 181 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: up as a high pressure front and just settles in 182 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: over a region, you've got everything you need for that 183 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: massive hot air to just stay put and continue heating up, 184 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: which is the big problem because a high pressure um 185 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: weather system forces air downward and it's hot air too. Normally, 186 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: you have hot air at the surface, or air that 187 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: warms up at the surface and it moves upward, it 188 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: floats upward, and it's replaced by cool air that comes in, 189 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: and you've got breezes. Well, one of the things that's 190 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: the hallmark of a high pressure system is there there 191 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: ain't no breezes because it's just sitting there pushing the 192 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: air downward towards the surface of the Earth, which prevents 193 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: that air from rye eazing, so there's no cool air 194 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: to come in, so there's no breeze. But also because 195 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: that air is just sitting there at the surface, it's 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: just getting warmer and warmer and warm warmer. And the 197 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: surface air temperature is what we're concerned with, because it's 198 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: the temperature of the air about two meters above the 199 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: Earth's surface above the ground, so it's about six and 200 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: a half feet, which is where a lot of us 201 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: are trying to take a breath in this really hot air. Well, 202 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: a lot of you taller people, sure, but even still, 203 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: if you stood on your tippy toes, it would affect 204 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: you a lot too. Well, the other thing that happens 205 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: to because that air isn't rising, that means it's not 206 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: gonna rain. Uh, and rain obviously can be away to 207 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: cool things down. So it just it's sort of acts 208 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: as this uh, it's sort of like a feedback loop 209 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: basically where the hotter it gets, the hotter it's gonna get. Yeah. 210 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: And even the other thing about a high pressure front 211 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: is it pushes like air away from it, outward from 212 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the edges of it, so there's no fronts coming in 213 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: to like kind of relieve it. It's so the stronger 214 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: they get, the more all of these factors contribute, and then, 215 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: like you said, creates this positive feedback cycle and basically 216 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you're just totally at the mercy of the jet stream 217 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: to move this thing away eventually, and it can take 218 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: some time. And so that's what a heat wave is. 219 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: It's when one of these like all these factors kind 220 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: of come together and this massive hot air settles in 221 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: over a region and just keeps getting hotter and hotter. 222 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: And in the daytime, that's that's the like the money 223 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: time as far as people are concerned with heat waves, 224 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: because the sun's out, it's really really hot. The temperatures 225 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: are really high, and it's pretty bad. No one's going 226 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: to argue that the daytime during a heat wave stinks, 227 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: But it's the night time that's the more insidious part. 228 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: That's the real problem with the with the heat wave, right, yeah, 229 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, even if it gets really hot, but it's 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: not a heat wave. The earth helps itself out by 231 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: cooling down at night. Your body, like everything cools down 232 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: at night. It's a it's a great chance to just 233 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, kick off your shoes and like 234 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: relax and recharge. Yeah, like humans, the human body needs it. Uh, 235 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Animals bodies need it. The earth itself needs it. The 236 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: buildings and the concrete and the asphalt and the steel 237 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and the glass. It all depends on cooling down some 238 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: at night. So it can be like, well, I'm gonna 239 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: get hot again tomorrow, but at least I cooled down 240 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: tonight and you know, kind of relaxed and like you said, 241 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: repaired my energy. But when a heat wave comes, it's 242 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: not cooling down at night. So I mean, just imagine yourself. 243 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: If you never get a chance to cool down at 244 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: night and you stay hot, then that sun comes up 245 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: the next day, it's gonna be twice as bad, Yeah, 246 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: because you're starting from a higher set point at the beginning, 247 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you know. And that's one of the hallmarks of a 248 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: heat wave is it's hot even before the sun comes up. 249 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: That's which is not pleasant, and it's certainly not good 250 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: sleeping weather. Those are the worst, man like, especially here 251 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: in the South, when you go out, like you go 252 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: to let your dog out at eleven o'clock at night, 253 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: and it's like eighty seven degrees or something, you just 254 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: start sweating immediately before that. It's just brutal. It's pretty bad. 255 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: All right. Well, let's take a break. I need to 256 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: go I don't know, soaking a bathtub or something. I'm 257 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: getting a little hot down here. Uh, And we'll talk 258 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: about the dreaded humidity right after this. Learn it's stuff 259 00:14:36,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: with Joshua John Okay, Chuck lay it on him that 260 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: very famous phrase that actually holds true. Um, youth has 261 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: wasted on the young, sure that one, but also early 262 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: bird gets the worm and UM never say candy man 263 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: into a mirror. Well, it's certainly not three times in 264 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: a row. It's not the heat, it's the humidity. There's 265 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: the one I was looking for, right that's the one, 266 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: and that's true. I mean we were talking about humidity earlier. 267 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: That is what you know the humans have as this 268 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: great mechanism built in a kind of a self contained 269 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: air conditioning system which is called sweat. And if it's 270 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: if the air is fairly dry outside, and like I 271 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: mentioned getting under that shade tree in Los Angeles, you 272 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: can sweat and that water is gonna evaporate off of 273 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: you and a cool breeze will come through and it 274 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: actually feels good. And that is how you regulate and 275 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: cool down. When the humidity happens, it's hard to near 276 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: impossible for that sweat to really cool you down. You'll 277 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: still be sweating, but it won't have that same effect, right, Um, yeah, 278 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: it's it's just there's no place for that sweat to go. 279 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't just move into the air because there's already 280 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: so much water vapor into the air. So the higher 281 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: the humidity is, the worst off it is for you. 282 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: And then if you take high temperatures as well, that 283 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: combination of high humidity and high temperature can be really bad. 284 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: And back in the seventies there was a guy, actually 285 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, somebody named R. G. Steadman. They 286 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: came up in nineteen seventy nine with assessment of sultry nous, 287 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: which we call today the heat index. It was the 288 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: paper that put the heat index out there, and the 289 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: heat index is basically, yeah, it really is. You know, 290 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: it sounds it sounds like a Tennessee Williams play or 291 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: something like that. So the heat index makes a lot 292 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: of sense because when it's really humid out and it's 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: high in temperature, that humidity makes it feel even hotter 294 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: because we have trouble sweating. So so R. G. Steadman 295 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: came up with the heat index that kind of gives 296 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: you a much better understanding of what the actual temperature 297 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: as far as your human body is concerned. That's why 298 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: they also call it the apparent temperature or the fuels 299 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: like temperature. Yeah, and that's the only one I care about. 300 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know why they less regular temperature. It 301 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: should just be heat indecks and wind chill in the winter, 302 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: because that's the only thing that matters. And I guess 303 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like showing your math or something. 304 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: So they have to go through it all, but as 305 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: far as your human body is concerned, those are really 306 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: the only two measures that matter, or at least for me. Yeah. 307 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: So you know how sometimes you can end up down 308 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: a rabbit hole and like not find a way out 309 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: and you have to just crawl backwards out of it, 310 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: and you're you're kind of worse off for the wear 311 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: because you went a little mad in there. Sure that 312 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: happened to me. With humidity, heat index, evaporation, condensation, I'm 313 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: like researching it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, And I'm like 314 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's some some connections here between 315 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: all these things that my brain is not making. I'm 316 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: just sensing that it's all very much connected, and I'm 317 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: even reading stuff that's saying it's connected. I just can't 318 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: figure out how it's all connected because it's not as 319 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: simple as like humidity or you know, the heat index 320 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: is humidity times temperature divided by two or something like that. 321 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: That's not how it works. It's way more sophisticated than that, 322 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: and it takes into account a lot of different stuff 323 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: so that if you if you actually put a lower 324 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: temperature in with higher humidity, it will bring the temperature down. 325 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: And then there's some temperatures like say seventy degrees where 326 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter what you do with the humidity, 327 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: it's still just gonna feel like seventy degrees. So there's 328 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of different weirdness in there. But the 329 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: thing is the upshot of all this. I was just 330 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of confessing and getting off my chest that I'm 331 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: a little obsessed with this and if any any meteorologists 332 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: or climatologists can explain all this to me, I would 333 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: love to hear it. But as far as heat waves 334 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: are concerned, if you have high temperatures and high humidity, 335 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: some really astounding stuff happens when you put those together. 336 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: As far as the heat index is concerned. Yeah, And 337 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: just not to harp on my personal um sweating issues. 338 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot over the years, but 339 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: it's the embarrassing thing for me is not that I've 340 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: sweat a lot, because a It's that's why I never 341 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: had like acne growing up, because I'm just constantly sweating 342 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: everything through. We've got like the cleanest pores in the world, 343 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: um and it you know, it helps cool me down, 344 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: But it's when it's like seventy six degrees and super humid, 345 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: and other people are like or even in the sixties 346 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: or fifties, and they're like, it's really cool. Why are 347 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: you sweating, like because it's humid. I don't care if 348 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: it's forty degrees. If it's super humid, I might break 349 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: a sweat. Yeah, it gets through. If you're sweating at 350 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: forty degrees, that's that's some sweaty us for sure. Maybe 351 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: not forty fifty. We could do some tests, all right, 352 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: let's do oh yeah, let's do some science. I'm gone up. Yeah, 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: like a humidity lab or something. Okay, but I still 354 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: get to get a lab coat, right Sure of the 355 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: color of my choosing. Um, I'll let you select from 356 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: three colors of my choosing. What are they? Cinnamon, powder, blue, 357 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: and orange? Okay? Great, okay, any one of those, then 358 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: that's mine. It's mine. Banana yellow was going to be 359 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: in there, but you missed. You missed the boat. At 360 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: least you didn't make me dress up in a banana costume. Uh, yeah, 361 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: I was. It's funny. I was shopping for Halloween for 362 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: this year and I kind of didn't want to go 363 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: is a devo, and so I was looking up for 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: those yellow jumpsuits and I was waylaid because you kind 365 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: of end up having to be whatever your kid says 366 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: you have to be. So I think we're all gonna 367 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: be spooky things this year, but I had to put 368 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: the devo thing on the back burner. You could be 369 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: like zombie Divo. Not a bad idea, No, it's not. 370 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: It's a great idea. Yeah, you can be zombie anything. 371 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: That's kind of the beauty of the zombie Zombie b York, 372 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Zombie Mark Mother's Ball, Zombie b York. I like that, 373 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Just wear that Swan dress and walk around saying I 374 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: was trying to think of how Buyork would say brains 375 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: but not of my head. Couldn't put it together. That 376 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: was perfect thing. Uh. So you mentioned insidious effects and 377 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about those because, uh, very wide reaching. 378 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: It's not just people get hot and people die. Uh. 379 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: It affects kind of everything on the planet. And it's 380 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: easy to kind of think of heat stroke and dehydration 381 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: and something like that during the day, like you said, 382 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: because that's when you count on it, and that's when 383 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: you might take precautions, which, by the way, to go 384 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: listen to our Desert Survival episode for that kind of stuff. 385 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good tips there, but not like you said, 386 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: it's that's when it's really bad because the human body 387 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: really depends on that rest and that reset and that 388 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: cool down. And if you stay hot, your body and 389 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: is you know, especially if you have like high bread 390 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: high blood pressure or like heart issues, it's working overtime 391 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: at night when it should be cooling down because you 392 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: I think you're like lowest body temperature of the twenty 393 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: four hour cycle is during sleep. So if you're not 394 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: hitting that cool down cycle, then everything is just doing 395 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of extra work. Yeah, in particular your heart is. 396 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: And when your heart is working hard and then it 397 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: has to work hard again the next day, it's like 398 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: that that set point doesn't ever or the set point 399 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: starts higher the next day. So after a few days 400 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: of this, especially if you have a bum ticker to 401 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: begin with, UM, it can be quite dangerous for you. 402 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: And so people like the elderly, UM children, like very 403 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: young children, they're usually the first casualties of UM of 404 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: a heat wave. But there are a lot of other 405 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: people who are susceptible to UM, especially people who don't 406 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: have easy access to air conditioning UH, people who are 407 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: of low income, who very sadly might even have air conditioning, 408 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: but don't have power right then, or don't have the 409 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: money to to to run their air conditioner. The homeless, 410 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: um people who work outside and sorry, I gotta I 411 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: gotta work no matter what to keep food on the table, 412 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: whether it's a heat wave or not. They can be 413 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: in big trouble as well. But then so can any 414 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: of us, especially when that heat index starts to jump. 415 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Like when you have like a hundred degree temperatures with 416 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: um like fifty five percent humidity. You put those together, 417 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: it's suddenly a hundred and twenty four out. That's not 418 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: good for anybody, you know. No, And you know I 419 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that it's like people and animals and buildings 420 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: and everything. The infrastructure takes, you know, it takes a hit. 421 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Um like railway railroad tracks can literally up and buckle. Yeah, 422 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: they won't run trains during a heat wave a lot 423 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: of times for that reason because they could derail. Yeah, concrete, 424 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: an asphalt, any kind of metal and glass on a 425 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: building you've uh, I mean, buildings can like their shape 426 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: can briefly change and expand and contract or I guess 427 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: expand and not contract for a little while, all due 428 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: to this heat wave. And you know, we talked a 429 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: little bit about the urban heat island effect at some point, um, 430 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: but this is you know, this is why you got 431 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: to New York City and a heat wave and it's 432 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: it's one of the hottest places on the planet. It 433 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: feels like, yeah, because it actually is way hotter than 434 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: other places because of all those building materials number one, 435 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: that are excellent absorbers of heat, all that blacktop and 436 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: asphalt and um, all that steel, but also chuck like 437 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: the distinct lack of vegetation like trees and stuff that 438 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: actually helped cool the air. Like it's not just shade 439 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: that they do, Like they actually release water vapor into 440 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: the air and actually cool the nearby air. So the 441 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: more trees you have, the lower the urban heat island effect. 442 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: But that's just not like a huge, huge um trait 443 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: of the average city. Like somebody actually wrote a book 444 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: called A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. That's how significant the 445 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: idea of a tree in Brooklyn was. You know what 446 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's funny. Uh. Energy takes a big wall 447 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: up to um for the obvious reason and more um 448 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: obvious when being that you know, everyone's cranking those air 449 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: conditioners everyone's refrigerators and freezers are working over time. Um. 450 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: Industrial refrigeration is working over time. And you combine that 451 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: with the fact that transmission capacity is reduced during these 452 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: high temperatures, it's gonna strain the electrical grid even more. Uh. 453 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: It's just nothing is running with any kind of efficiency. 454 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: And if you want to really have some people die quickly, 455 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: you have an energy power outage during a heat wave 456 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: because of these overstressed systems. And that's when all of 457 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, like nobody has refrigeration or air conditioning, and uh, 458 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: it can get brutal pretty quickly. Yeah, because I mean, 459 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: if you, if you think about it, you've got incredible 460 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: demand on the system. And then the system itself can't 461 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: really um, it can't get rid of its you know, 462 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: waste heat like it needs to, just like a human 463 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: body does. So Yeah, if the system blacks out or 464 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: even browns out, it's that's not the time to do it, 465 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: but that's when it's most likely to happen. And then 466 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: on the same on the opposite side of the same coin, chuck, 467 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: are those cold waves I was talking about? Um, And 468 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: that was what happened in Texas. Uh this past winter 469 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: it was a high pressure front, but instead of a 470 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: mass of like super hot air, it was a massive 471 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: super cold air and it just settled in and stayed 472 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: there and froze Texas and Texas infrastructure suffered. I think 473 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: we talked about in the electrical grid episode. Um. And 474 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: it was the same thing. They just couldn't keep up 475 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: with the demand, and the weather itself was taxing the 476 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: system too. And uh, it's the same thing in a 477 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: heat wave. It's just for the opposite reasons, but the 478 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: same outcome, right. Uh. And if you're thinking, hey, you know, 479 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: look at the bright side, warmer winters mean we're not 480 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: going to be using as much energy in the wintertime 481 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: to heat our homes, so it all balances out. Uh, 482 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: that's not true. They've done a lot of studies and 483 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: they're pretty much coming to the conclusion that the heat 484 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: is out is tipping that scale too far in the 485 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: other direction. And even if we are saving a little 486 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: bit of energy and or even a great deal of 487 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: energy in the wintertime due to warmer temperatures, it's not 488 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: going to balance it out. Um. Water is another big 489 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: one to chuck, which makes a lot of sense, Like 490 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: people drink more water they need more water. Uh, they 491 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: might take cool baths to cool down, but not just humans. 492 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Livestock need more water during this time. Um power plants 493 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: need more water to stay a cool, crops need more water. 494 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: Everything needs more water. But the problem is is during 495 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: heat wave when you need water the most, that's when 496 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: it's like the least available because it becomes pretty scarce. 497 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: Because drought and heat waves are they work really well together. 498 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: They kind of go hand in hand. Actually in a 499 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: lot of cases. Yeah, I mean that kind of creates 500 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: a similar feedback feedback loop, and that when there is 501 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: moisture in the ground thanks to rain and stuff like that, 502 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: even when it gets hot, the earth is going to 503 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: soak up a lot of that sun and use some 504 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: of that energy to get rid of that water and 505 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: turn it into water vapor. If that ground is already 506 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: super dry because of a drought, then it's just it's 507 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: basically just baking like an oven, and that energy has 508 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: no other use. It doesn't have the use of turning 509 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: it into water vapor, so it's just baking, yeah, just 510 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: heating that ground up instead, so it just gets hotter 511 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: and hotter, which is terrible stuff. So UM plus also 512 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: with drought stricken landscapes. Those are more susceptible to wildfire. 513 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: So as there's more and more heat waves, we can 514 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: expect worse and more widespread wildfires. Basically too, we talked 515 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: about animals, it's not animals. I think a lot of 516 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: people forget about animals and situations like this. Uh. I 517 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: think people think more about animals when it gets super 518 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: super cold and like really bad cold. Friends come in. 519 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: But they're susceptible to the heat too. And it's not 520 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: just you know, our little you know, domesticated pets that 521 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: we love and and unfortunately some of the street animals 522 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: like really suffer. But livestock, you know, if you're on 523 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: a farm, those cows and chickens don't like that kind 524 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: of heat either. Uh. Sometimes it can affect their mortality rates. Uh, 525 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: it can affect things way downstream because uh they might 526 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: be rep you know if they don't want to have 527 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: that heat wave sex either, so that they might be 528 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: reproducing less, which is gonna have a down on stream effect. Uh. 529 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: And then you know all the crops are going to 530 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: be affected too, Yeah, especially the ones that cops when 531 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: it comes snatch that what cops want to come and 532 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: snatch my crops. I don't what is that? You do 533 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: remember that as a Cypress Hill lyric, a very famous one. 534 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I remember. Now, boy, 535 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: we mentioned cypers Hill a lot on the show. They're 536 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, they're like a mascot now, like 537 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Frank the Chair. I knew that sounded familiar. Cops come 538 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: and try to snatch my crops. Here it is, and 539 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: then that has to be followed, of course by heat Wave. Boy, 540 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: somebody should sample that on a on a hip hop tune. 541 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: That'd be great. What heat Wave? Yeah, I bet it 542 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: has been sure. I could see Puff Daddy sampling that. 543 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: That'd be up his alley. Oh yeah, did ever tell 544 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: you I went to his house one time. It sounds 545 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: vaguely familiar, but I'd like to hear it again. It's 546 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: not the biggest story, but I ran an errand as 547 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: p a over to his house one time and had 548 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: to drop something. Now, so I had to go go 549 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: knock on his door and walk inside the front and 550 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: drop something off. Something was something in air quotes. No, 551 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: it was some for the job. It wouldn't a big deal, 552 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: but it was like clothes or something. But it was. 553 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: It was just very shiny and white. Everything was shiny 554 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and white. I can imagine, which is you know, it's 555 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: a way to go, I guess, but I don't know. 556 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: It's a look it's too much. It's too much. I 557 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, there's a long time ago. He 558 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: may not be into that now. But white couches and 559 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: big white marble floors, I mean, I like white couches 560 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: and and I do like white stuff, but it's also like, 561 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: gotta have lots of color. Like the white stuff is 562 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: just a it's just a backdrop for your color. That's 563 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: in my that's my opinion. We are too messy. We 564 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: can't have white things. I understand, you know. Yeah, told 565 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: well you need to have if you have a white couch, 566 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: it's got to be a uh slip cover because you're 567 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to wash it, yes, if you drink red wine. 568 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: But but there is one that we haven't covered you. 569 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: I think we should before we take a break, and 570 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: it is air pollution, which uh might be overlooked by 571 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: some people, but it really makes a lot of sense 572 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: because number one, we're like demanding way more from power 573 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: plants than usual during a heatwave with all that a c. 574 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: So those power plants are putting out more emissions than usual. 575 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: But then the actual like conditions of the heat wave 576 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: itself make the air pollution worse, does it not? Yeah? 577 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean that that same cap that uh kind of 578 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: forces all that air down and keeps everything stagnant, that 579 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: same cap is in place for uh, these emissions that 580 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: are going up into the air. So it's just it's 581 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: just like bottling it all up. It's gonna make things 582 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: a lot worse. Yeah, and so, and also ozone is 583 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: more easily produced. You've got ozone and like particulate matter 584 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: from from emissions, all combining to make your breathing much 585 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: more difficult. Danger. Right, So let's take a break, man, 586 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about some couple of famous heat 587 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: waves and what the future holds. How about that, let's 588 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: do it. Learn it's stuff with Joshua John stuff all right. 589 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: So if you were alive on the earth this summer, um, 590 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: you might remember and said, all you almost started with it, 591 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: and you didn't. You've really come a long way John 592 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: with what you almost said, unless you're living under a rock. 593 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, it really wasn't all right, Um, 594 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: so between June and June, Uh, something was brewing down 595 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: in Mexico that was very hot, and this big, massive 596 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: warm air moved up and kind of settled over the 597 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: middle of the United States and and didn't move for 598 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: a while. And uh, it was just sort of your 599 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: classic heat wave. But even in places like where that 600 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: they're used to the heat in the summertime, it got 601 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: exceedingly hot. Like if you were in Arizona and Phoenix, 602 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: you're used to hot weather for sure, but it it 603 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: cracked a hundred and fifteen degrees for six consecutive days, 604 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: which is a record for even Phoenix. That is not 605 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: okay for anybody, no, but so so it's bad enough 606 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: for Phoenix. But still, I'm sure the people of things 607 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's kind of hot, but come on, 608 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: we could we could handle worse. Um, it was play 609 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: this is where it's not normally hot at all. That 610 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: really took the brunt of that heat wave. And as 611 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the heat wave is generally called 612 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: referred to as the Pacific Northwest heatwave because that's where 613 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: it really stunk the worst. Yeah, I can't believe Portland, 614 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: Oregon got up to a hundred and twelve degrees. That 615 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: is bananas. Yeah, And we should say when you're talking 616 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: about air temperatures and you are seeing the temperature on 617 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: the news or whatever, that measurement was taken in the shade. 618 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: That's not the sunlight sunshine temperature. That's what that the 619 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: temperature is in the shade. Okay, So wrap your head 620 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: around that one. Yeah. So a hundred and twelve in 621 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: Portland's hundred and four in Seattle, which broke a record. 622 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: Um it was. It was bananas and and that kind 623 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: of like a lot of people in that part of 624 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: the country. I don't really know percentages, but there are 625 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: there are people who don't have h VAC units. They 626 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: count on opening their windows and stuff like that. There 627 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: are places in the United States, believe it or not, 628 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: that don't have HVAC and that that use ceiling fans 629 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: and stuff and they just don't eat. Yeah, for sure. Um. 630 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: There was another town too that we have to mention, 631 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: chuck Lytton, British Columbia, which is north a couple hundred 632 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: miles north of Seattle. They hit a hundred and sixteen 633 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: and set a new record not just for themselves but 634 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: for Canada as a whole and then the town burned 635 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: down from a wildfire right afterward. Very sad, so like 636 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: it was a really big deal. And one of the 637 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: things that that I think this the Pacific Northwest heat 638 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: wave in June, and I think there were multiple ones 639 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: around that region over the well not just in the 640 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, but in like the Midwest States in particular 641 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: U this year. But what I think these the heat 642 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: waves in the U s s you're kind of woke 643 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: people up to, is like these things are like really deadly. 644 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: They looked at excess deaths, which they kind of take 645 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: the background number of deaths, the deaths you'd expect, and 646 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: then see how many more occurred on a particular day 647 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: or over a particular period or during a heat wave. 648 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: And they've concluded thus far that in Washington State alone, 649 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: six people died from that heat wave over the course 650 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: of a few days. Yeah, like thousands of people total 651 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: um all over that region. And you know this is 652 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a squishy number because it's 653 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit about this, like people 654 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: who study is kind of stuff, they're doing the best 655 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: they can. They can't necessarily say like every single one 656 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: of those deaths was because of the heat wave. But 657 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: it is a really good measure. Um, And if you're 658 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: if you're just looking at sort of round numbers, uh, 659 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: it's it's not the kind of thing that you can dismiss. 660 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: And Plus, if history is any kind of guide that 661 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: those numbers will probably be revised upward in the next 662 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: year or so, I would guess. Yeah. And it's not 663 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: just the United States. There was a heat wave in 664 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: Europe in two thousand three that was it was the 665 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: warmest summer on record since the fifteen forties. And I 666 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: was like, how do they know that? I don't know. 667 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: So I looked, there's a bunch of different ways they 668 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: can kind of miss us out. Yeah, parchment is the answer. Um, 669 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: there's there's They take bore holes is basically one of 670 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: the best ways I saw, where when when it's hot 671 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: on on this Earth's surface, that temperature radiates downward through 672 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: the Earth. And if you take a core sample, a 673 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: borehole sample sample, you can actually kind of deduce from 674 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: whatever temperature a specific moment in time is, like say 675 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: like in the fifteen forties, this would have been at 676 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: the surface, that it actually that you can actually get 677 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: the temperature roughly from that era. I think we talked 678 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: about that before. This was really familiar. Okay, well it 679 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: sounded new to me. I had no idea, But I 680 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: think that's pretty interesting because there was nobody in fifteen 681 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: forties saying, oh, it was eighty degrees celsius it was 682 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: super hot, which I think that's like really really hot, 683 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. But um, nobody was recording temperature 684 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: like that. Some people did record the weather, but it 685 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: was just like a smattering of observations and nothing scientific. 686 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: Because this is pretty scientific. Um, so they have to 687 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: use even more scientific stuff today to kind of deduce 688 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: what it was before. Right. You might see, like it 689 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: was very hot the day we burned this person at 690 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: the stake, right, and we made even hot glancing reference. 691 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean Milan, Paris, London, all these places 692 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: broke record temperatures, uh, temperatures, temperatures. I can say that 693 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: like a lazy Southerner temperature temperature because of hookworm, you 694 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: say it like temperature. Yeah, but in the you know, 695 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: in a couple of years after they calculated that, about 696 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: thirty thousand people died all over Europe, and then later 697 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: on they said that could have been as high as 698 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: seventy tho people when they studied it. Years after that, 699 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: seventy thousand people died from a two week Hey wave 700 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: in Europe in two thousand three, and this may be 701 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: what we're looking at going forward. Yeah, so we talked 702 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: about you were you were saying, like, um, that there's 703 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: there's people who like are trying to figure out how 704 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: much this is increasing, how much of it has to 705 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: do with climate change. There's a it's a new branch 706 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: of science called attribution studies, and it's pretty much in 707 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: league with climatology. I get the impression that it's made 708 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: up of climatologists and it's a brand new type of 709 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: science and it's really hard to do. Um. But they're 710 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: they're starting from an article I read the data set 711 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: post climate change. Basically this this one point to degrees 712 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: celsius that has risen since we started keeping records in 713 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty. I believe it's like the benchmark here that 714 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: it's starting to happen, like weird stuff is starting to 715 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: happen in more and more frequency, that this data set 716 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: is growing. And then they have since the eighteen eighties 717 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: to compare it against and so using a lot more 718 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: sophisticated statistical analysis that I can quite wrap my head around. Um, 719 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: they're figuring out how to say this weird weather event 720 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: like the one in the Pacific Northwest had ex chance 721 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: of happening had climate change never happened, had we never 722 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: started releasing greenhouse gas emissions during the industrial age. And 723 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: they've actually done that. There was a study that that 724 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: actually kind of came to some pretty interesting conclusions about that. Yeah. 725 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: They you know, they you hear about like a hundred 726 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: year storm or something like that. Uh, they did a 727 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: calculation and they said, you know, this was that that 728 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: heat wave in this year in the United States was 729 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: in a one thousand year event. And that's factoring in 730 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: like the current climate that we are already in. Yeah, 731 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: like if we frozeur if our climate did not get 732 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: any hotter or change in any way than it did 733 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: now for from now on, that it would have been 734 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: a thousand year event like now basically right, And then 735 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: they can further extrapolate and say with this was pre 736 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: um pre end of the nineteenth century, I guess, Yeah, 737 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty that's that benchmark date when everyone around the 738 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: world started to keep like pretty accurate weather records from 739 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: that point on. They said that that would have been 740 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: about a hundred and fifty thousand year event back then, 741 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: and in the future it might become like a five 742 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: or ten year event. Yeah, by the twenty fifties maybe, Yeah, 743 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: because I think that it's like thirty or forty years 744 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: from now, the overall global temperature there it is again, 745 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: is gonna rise in another two degrees celsius. No, two 746 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 1: degrees celsius total since eighteen eighty Okay, yeah, I guess 747 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: that would be catastrophic. Yeah, I don't know what would happen. 748 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: I think we should do an episode explaining temperature rise 749 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: in like what effects it's going to have and all 750 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: that sure sot into our doomsday series. So even even 751 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: taking aside like climate chain UM and an increase from 752 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: climate change, UM, there's there's a lot of data that 753 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: just says, yeah, we're actually seeing a lot more heat 754 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: waves than we used to just in the past, like 755 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: fifty sixty years UM, and just taking data starting in 756 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty I think UM the weather the National Weather 757 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: Service to a study that basically said, UM, looking at 758 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: fifty cities in the United States, forty six of them 759 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: have seen a signific statistically significant increase in heat waves 760 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: since the nineteen sixties, so much so that like during 761 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties they could expect about two heat waves 762 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: per year these fifty cities in the United States. Now 763 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: they're averaging about six per year. And the season for 764 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: heat waves in these cities is on average forty seven 765 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: days longer than it was in nineteen sixty. So there's 766 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: definitely a big upward trend in heat waves. It's becoming 767 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: this new normal for us. Yeah, and it's it's really 768 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: all about data. Um in more data you have, because 769 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: they you know, there are still freak weather events that um, 770 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: they don't want to just throw everything in there and 771 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: say it's all caused by the rising climates all over 772 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: the world. Uh. But the more time goes on, like 773 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 1: the more of this data set is enriched and the 774 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: the wheat is separated from the chaff just sort of naturally, 775 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: the more data you get, and those statistical anomalies will 776 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: they will be revealed, yes as such. Yeah, well, which 777 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: I think it behoo's us to say, like any good 778 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: attribution um climatologists is going to tell you like that 779 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: that heatwave in the Pacific Northwest could have just been 780 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: statistical bad luck. It may have had nothing to do 781 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: with climate change. It could have just been like that 782 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: was the one we drew. Because a thousand year event 783 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: means you have a one in a thousand chance on 784 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: any given year of that you could happen next year. Again, 785 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: statistically is unlikely, but it's possible just from statistics that 786 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: it was just bad luck that it happened. But um, yeah, 787 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: what you were saying is actually totally accurate that the 788 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: more unfortunately weird freak weather events go on, the bigger 789 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: the data set they're going to have to compare to 790 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: pre you know, climate change times and see what is 791 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: actually trending upward. And it looks like they're probably right 792 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: about heat waves. Yeah, and they you know, people should 793 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: feel good knowing that they're really trying to get good 794 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: accurate data. It's it's not they don't want to just 795 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: be doomsday uh people and say, you know, they want 796 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: to really get good accurate numbers in there. So if 797 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: you're a person who thinks climate change is bogus or 798 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: it's not human caused or whatever, or they're just trying 799 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: to scare you, and you know they're going to throw 800 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: everything in there that happens and say it's because of this. 801 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: They're not doing that. They're really really working super super 802 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: hard to get a super accurate record and picture of 803 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: what things are like now and and what they're like 804 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: moving forward. You're not being good winked. I think people 805 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: who are still saying that are basically like standing in 806 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: a burning house being like, the house isn't on fire, 807 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, Um, so what can we do to 808 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: stop this stuff? Well, you can't stop it. What can 809 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: we do to help ourselves out in the meantime. No, 810 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: eventually we probably will be able to control the weather, 811 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: which sounds like Bond villain esque, but we'll probably be 812 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: able to control it to our benefit and the benefit 813 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: of the planet I'm guessing in the next like hundred 814 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: years possibly. But until then, we can do absolutely nothing 815 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: about this except kind of try to mitigate the effects 816 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: of it. One of the things that's starting to happen 817 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: our local governments are starting to get a little more 818 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: hip to the idea that they need, you know, plans 819 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: in place so when a heat wave comes along, because 820 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: they're actually pretty easy to forecast by many days out, 821 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: so you can give people a lot of warning and 822 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: then if the government has this plan in place, they 823 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: can open up cooling center. So you've got a convention 824 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: center is not being used well that now is a 825 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: cooling center where you're running lots of ace for residents 826 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: who don't have a c to come cool off. You 827 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: can start um reroofing buildings in your city with you know, 828 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: green roofs or even like like um cool roofs, which 829 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: is basically a roof that's not black and that's all 830 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: it takes to to cool that roof by fifty degrees 831 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: sometimes on a sunny day. Um. There's just a lot 832 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: of stuff where if you just stop and look at 833 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: the infrastructure and even the color of the infrastructure use 834 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: in cities, just changing it to lighter colors would have 835 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: an enormous effect on the urban heat island effect. Oh yeah, 836 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: plant more trees. I love those green roofs are good 837 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: looking anyway, Sure they look like Hobbit houses, a Hobbit skyscraper. 838 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: No less uh, making the electrical grid more efficient because again, 839 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: if you've got a heat wave and that thing breaks down, 840 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: it's just exacerbating the problem. So those are all things 841 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: we can do to help out a little bit. Yeah, 842 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: we'll probably figure it out more as it goes on, 843 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: but does it's a pretty good start. And the other 844 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: thing that you can do is you can actually if 845 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: you watch your local news and the weather person says 846 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: there's a heat advisory today, like that means that it 847 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: could be dangerous to be outside. Like they're not just 848 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: whistling Dixie there, hope. I had a borderline heat stroke, 849 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: uh this summer, first time in my life. What I 850 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: was playing golf, I got I was able to play 851 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: the historic East Lake Golf Club near where I live, 852 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: and I it was brutally hot. It is a walking 853 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: only course, so it's not like you're riding around a 854 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: golf cart. And you know, golf courses aren't their trees 855 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: on the edges, but you're out on that sun if 856 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: you're hitting them straight, you know what I mean. And 857 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: I started feeling funny. I got a little dizzy a 858 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: couple of times. And I'm at the age now where 859 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm smart enough for where I was like, I gotta 860 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: do something here, dudes, Like this isn't right. I don't 861 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: feel right. I've been hot all my life and I 862 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: don't feel right, So I they called sort of embarrassing, 863 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: but they called a golf cart out and I went 864 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,919 Speaker 1: back to the clubhouse for like three holes in cool down, 865 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then went back out. I missed those 866 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: three holes, but I rejoined my buddies and uh and 867 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: finished out the back nine. But you had the lowest 868 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: score of all then, exactly it was. But I'm glad 869 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: that I was smart en if I was like, well, 870 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: this is a little embarrassing, but I just I've got 871 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: to take care of myself, Like not dying of pete 872 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: stroke is much better than you know, playing on to 873 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: not be embarrassed. I mean, that's come on, because you 874 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: know what's really embarrassing is dropping dead. Of course it is. 875 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: And then it would think about how it would affect me, chuck, 876 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: I would have to explain it to all of our listeners. Man. Uh. 877 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: It took me a long time to cool down. Like 878 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: I went in the icy, coldest clubhouse I've ever been 879 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 1: in and it was just pounding water and it took 880 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: me fifteen minutes to feel normal. And then I took 881 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: a cold shower upstairs in the clubhouse. In the clubhouse 882 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: and the bought a new shirt in the clubhouse nice 883 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: and um, and then came back out and I was like, 884 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: I felt normal again. But it took a half hour. 885 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: There there's your answer. That's why it's an all walking course, 886 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: because they want to move those replacement shirts unsuspectingly eive. Wow. Well, 887 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you made it, buddy, and you did the 888 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: right thing. And I hope everybody learns a lesson from you. 889 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's embarrassing. We're talking about your 890 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: life and your health here. You just go cool off, 891 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: or you stopped playing, or you just don't gotta do 892 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: it like you gotta look out for yourself everybody. Yeah, 893 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: and it's just dumb golf. Yeah, who cares? Okay, Uh, 894 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: you got anything more on heat heat waves? Nope? Well, 895 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: if you want to know some more stuff about saving 896 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: your took us from heat stroke and stuff again, go 897 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: listen to our Desert Survival episode. And since I said that, 898 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail, I'm gonna call this Merchant's 899 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: house museum. This from the Embalming episode. Hey, guys, been 900 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: listening since you started when I was in high school. 901 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: You've been a real comfort more than ten years and 902 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: You've kept me company, distracted me, and made me laugh. 903 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm emailing you because Josh mentioned the Merchant's House Museum 904 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: in the Embalming episode. I work at the Merchant's House 905 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: and it was so cool to hear you guys mentioned 906 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: the museum. I'm impressed Josh even remembered Seabury Treadwell's name. 907 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: It's a great small museum in the Greenwich Village East 908 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 1: Village area that most New Yorkers and tourists don't even 909 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: know about. I wanted to see if you could plug 910 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: the MHM a bit because for the last ten years 911 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: has been fighting a real estate developer who wants to 912 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: do construction on the site next to the house, and 913 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: now it would endanger the hundred and eighty nine year 914 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: old building. Enforced UH force it to close temporarily, if 915 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: not permanently. Our small staff are always looking for more visitors, volunteers, 916 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: and donors interested in saving the landmark. Thank you for 917 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: mentioning the Merchant's House Museum. And this is from Lizzie 918 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: in Deck UH. She her and Lizzie and everyone else 919 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: out there doing the work at the Merchant's House Museum. 920 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, And if you go to New York City. 921 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: Go visit the Merchant's House Museum. If you can't go, 922 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe go in line and make a donation. Yeah, nicely done, Chuck, 923 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: Thanks again for writing in Lizzie. That was good stuff. 924 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad you did. Um and who could ever forget 925 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: Sea Barry Treadwell's name, Come on, great name Well. If 926 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us like Lizzie 927 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: did and help you fight off a real estate developer 928 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: who wants to ruin your museum or historical location, we 929 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. You can send us an 930 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: email to Stuff podcast at iHeart radio dot com. 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