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Speaker 1: We are just two days away from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five NFL schedule release, but a handful of games are

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Speaker 1: already set. We will break down several division duels, including

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Speaker 1: a familiar faux heading to Philadelphia in Week one, plus

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Speaker 1: another hosting the defending champs in December. It's often said

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Speaker 1: that when a team has two quarterbacks really has none.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Browns have five. With a little luck, they

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Speaker 1: Here from Dylan Gabriel and Shanor Sanders coming off rookie

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Speaker 1: Mini Caamp about the early stages of the battle in Berea.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk to Cardinals rookie cornerback Will Johnson, who

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Speaker 1: has moved on from his draft weekend drop. So what

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Speaker 1: Probably the same as I had for Ian when I

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Speaker 1: saw his shirt. Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport and Mike Garafalo, I am Tom Pell with Sarah.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifteen days out from the kickoff of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL season, and as of this morning,

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Speaker 1: we now know who exactly is going to be playing

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Speaker 1: in that game. The defending Super Bowl champions Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: will host an other than Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That's how the season kicks off on September fourth, the

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Speaker 1: first time these teams have squared off in the season

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Speaker 1: opener since a quarter century ago. And Steven Jones certainly

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Speaker 3: Well, let's it certainly motivates an auto organization. I know,

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Speaker 3: from the players to the coaches, they were so fired

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Speaker 3: the Eagles have. As you said, it's a huge Hoge rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Fox has a doubleheader on the Saturday of Week sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It is going to include a matchup the c right.

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Speaker 1: There, the Eagles going up against the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be one of the.

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Speaker 1: Themes, especially in these early release games, a whole lot

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Speaker 1: moments ago, Amazon has announced two of its games. Black

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Speaker 1: Friday Football is back once again. You guessed at the

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Speaker 1: Eagles taking on the Bears on November twenty eighth, and

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Speaker 1: then come Christmas time it's going to be an AFC

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Speaker 1: We still got what two hundred and sixty seven and

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Speaker 2: Of those first five, what jumps out at.

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Speaker 4: You the thing that I first take a look at.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I was a little surprised. I gotta say,

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Speaker 4: to see Eagles Cowboys as the opener. Obviously going to

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Speaker 4: literally no matter what put them at any time. Put

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Speaker 2: I was actually surprised that's going to be the opener.

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Speaker 4: But what it really does is it ramps things up

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Speaker 4: unbelievably quickly. If the Eagles win, then given the hype

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Speaker 4: are they going to repeat?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you beat the Cowboys again, everyone's watching. I

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Speaker 4: It's going to be like, are the Eagles the team

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Speaker 2: For real?

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Speaker 4: Can this Cowboys team win the Super Bowl? What is

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Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer's future as the Cowboys coach?

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Speaker 4: Really the one to fix this is George Pickens, the

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Speaker 5: And I thought you were going where I was gonna

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Speaker 5: So his name is Mike Norrith, VP of broadcast Planning Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: this is your month. This is where your name gets

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Speaker 1: for them as well. You'll get more announcements tomorrow, including

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football kicking off at eight am Eastern Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: They are going to announce the international game slate, most

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Speaker 1: Get all the details at navil dot com slash schedule release.

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Speaker 2: Future of Derek Carr. What more do we know?

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Speaker 5: But again, that would have looked incredibly selfish had he

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Speaker 5: My understanding is Derek Carr made this decision expecting to retire,

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Speaker 4: It means Derek Carr is going to be able to

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Speaker 4: And you're right, he really did the Saints of Major Salt, Mike.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't have looked selfish if he took the thirty

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Speaker 4: probably all of you guys. He gave back the money,

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Speaker 2: Well, he's seen plenty of different things in college.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the best case scenario for the New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck went fortieth overall exactly one hundred and four

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Speaker 8: My story's gonna be similar. You know, I was a

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Speaker 9: It's not new to me, I've done it at you know,

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Speaker 1: There's a pretty short list of teams that have drafted

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Speaker 4: You know what this kind of reminds me of this

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Speaker 2: That is the best case scenario.

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Speaker 4: One thing we've learned, Mike, no one knows anything with

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Speaker 1: The good census league wide in this quarterback class was

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Speaker 10: You know what's funny, like I'm gonna air dirty laundry here.

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Speaker 10: They all want you know what I mean, and forever,

440
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Speaker 10: you know, for whatever reason, he came to us, and

441
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Speaker 10: so we're just like Walt, we're excited to get to

442
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Speaker 10: work with him too, man, But I know he's excited.

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Speaker 2: And we are now joined and excited to be joined. Bye.

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Speaker 1: Will Johnson, the new Cardinals cornerback who Jonathan Gannon is

445
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Speaker 1: obviously very very happy to have out there in Arizona. Will,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, man. Tell us, what have been

447
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Speaker 1: up to so far out there in the desert.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having me. I've just been out here.

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Speaker 11: It's gott known rookie mini camp. Today it was our

450
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Speaker 11: first day with the Vest. So everything's been going smooth

451
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Speaker 11: and I'm just everything's great so far.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I want to go back to the draft experience, which

454
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Speaker 4: I know was a bittersweet one, right, but the way

455
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gatton describes it, obviously it was tough. You waited

456
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: far longer than you expected, and then you get the

457
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Speaker 4: call from the Cardinals and you learn where you're going

458
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Speaker 4: and you're going to join a team that not only

459
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Speaker 4: couldn't use you. But a defensive staff that really does

460
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Speaker 4: make the best use of its talents puts their players

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Speaker 4: in position to make plays. How quickly does it go

462
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Speaker 4: from somebody should have dropped me earlier to Okay, I

463
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Speaker 4: got an opportunity, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Pretty quickly.

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Speaker 11: I mean, right after you get that call, you're just

466
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Speaker 11: happy to be with that team. And it was just

467
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Speaker 11: a little motivation, that's all it was. So yeah, I'm

468
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Speaker 11: just just like you said. It's a great system, great scheme.

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Speaker 11: I do a lot of great things with their cornerback.

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Speaker 11: So I'm excited to go out there and make a

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Speaker 11: lot of plays and have fun in the system and

472
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Speaker 11: with this team.

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Speaker 1: I went down a bit of a rabbit hole online

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Speaker 1: earlier today will watching Will Johnson versus Marvin Harrison junior

475
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Speaker 1: highlights from the Michigan versus Wiles State days.

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Speaker 2: Listen, car is very talented.

477
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Speaker 1: He catches a few balls, but there's one highlight where

478
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Speaker 1: you jam him all the way out of bounds.

479
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Speaker 2: I think you pick off a slant to him as well.

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Speaker 1: Is there one play from those college matchups that jumps

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Speaker 1: out in your mind.

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Speaker 11: I'll probably say that first one when I jammed am

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Speaker 11: out of bounds first played the game. That's probably my

484
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Speaker 11: favorite one.

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Speaker 4: Is that is that your game? I mean because it's

486
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Speaker 4: is that is that message setting? Or is that like

487
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Speaker 4: the way you play for people who have not watched

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Speaker 4: you fully?

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Speaker 11: Oh, that's part of my game. That's that was just

490
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Speaker 11: what my game plan was going into that game. What

491
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Speaker 11: I wanted to do, what I what I set out

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Speaker 11: to do going into it. So I like to mix

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Speaker 11: it up. I mean, this defense we mix it up

494
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Speaker 11: a lot too, so press man, you know, press Bill,

495
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Speaker 11: a lot of different other things. So that's just one

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Speaker 11: aspect of the game. But that's what I felt like

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Speaker 11: bringing out that day.

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Speaker 1: Not to harp on the mar of an aspect of this,

499
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Speaker 1: but this is a guy you had a pretty good

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Speaker 1: ravel with in college. Are you looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: him on a daily basis? Have you talked to him

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Speaker 1: at all?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm here with him, so definitely

504
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Speaker 11: talk to him. But yeah, we're both looking forward to it.

505
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Speaker 11: I mean, it's only gonna get us both better competing

506
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 11: like that every day and practice and then taking it

507
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Speaker 11: to Sundays and using that as fuel and just sharpening

508
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Speaker 11: our craft every day throughout the weekend, just making it

509
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Speaker 11: easier for us when we go out there on Sundays.

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Speaker 4: You know, history has a funny way of framing and

511
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Speaker 4: describing situations. Right, So you wait all the time in

512
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Speaker 4: the draft, and then the Cardinals come up, Patrick Peterson

513
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Speaker 4: does the pick. It's you, and then from what I understand,

514
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Speaker 4: you then got a FaceTime from Tell me what that

515
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Speaker 4: whole experience with Pat p really, you know, not that

516
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Speaker 4: I need to tell you one of the best to

517
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Speaker 4: ever do it, Like, what is that experience like just

518
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Speaker 4: with him, that FaceTime and all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was special.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know with the whole draft process, how

521
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Speaker 11: that went and then ended up getting picked, and that's

522
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Speaker 11: who caused my name. I wouldn't want any other way.

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Speaker 11: As a guy I used to look up to growing up.

524
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Speaker 11: Just like when I was at Michigan, I had a

525
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Speaker 11: great mentor in Charles Woodson, and I got to talk

526
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Speaker 11: to Pat Peterson and hopefully have another great mentor here

527
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Speaker 11: and I can follow his footsteps and a similar way

528
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Speaker 11: I did at Michigan. That's what I'm looking forward to doing.

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Speaker 1: Will you talk about that fuel that drives you? And

530
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Speaker 1: I know he had mentioned what played out during Draft weekend.

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Speaker 1: Here the Cardinals are released behind the scenes clip where

532
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Speaker 1: you're talking to him and saying, basically, the league is

533
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Speaker 1: going to pay for everybody passing on you as long

534
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Speaker 1: as they did. Now that the emotions have kind of

535
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Speaker 1: worn off a little bit in terms of the rawness

536
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Speaker 1: of it here, how much of it all is that

537
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Speaker 1: something that still is in the back of your mind

538
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Speaker 1: in terms of how you're going to approach this thing

539
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Speaker 1: based on what happened in the draft.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I've moved on from it. I've moved forward,

541
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Speaker 11: but it'll always be in the back of my head

542
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Speaker 11: and it will always be a little bit of motivation.

543
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Speaker 11: Had that chip on my shoulder.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: So, so you had mentioned at the beginning of this

546
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Speaker 4: veterans are now in and you know, you start to

547
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Speaker 4: get to the the OTAs and eventually you guys are

548
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Speaker 4: going to get to mini camp. But it starts to

549
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Speaker 4: be uh starts to get a little more real. What

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Speaker 4: is the sort of I guess comfort. I know it's early,

551
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Speaker 4: but what's the comfort level like now that you're You've

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Speaker 4: gone from like excitement of like oh, drafted and rookies

553
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Speaker 4: and now it's like you get to just play football, Like,

554
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Speaker 4: what's the sort of acclamation process like for you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they did a great job, but you know, easing

556
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Speaker 11: us into it and rooking mini camp, you know, just

557
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Speaker 11: doing individual drills and learning the scheme, learning the system,

558
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 11: doing installs and things like that, just to make sure

559
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Speaker 11: that we're up to par so from when we got

560
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Speaker 11: there with the VEST that it wasn't too much for us.

561
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Speaker 11: So you know, not with the VEST, but walking through,

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Speaker 11: walking through with them and doing things with them. So

563
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Speaker 11: we're all crought up to speed and learning with the

564
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Speaker 11: VEST now, so we're all growing together.

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Speaker 2: Well. Congratulates man, enjoy Arizona. We appreciate it. Coming on,

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Speaker 2: let's do it again.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: All the Cardinals are gutting it out in the heat

569
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Speaker 1: down there in Tempe. The Rams are gonna behead of

570
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Speaker 1: the MAUI for Mini camp. I'm sure that is strictly

571
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Speaker 1: for football reason. It's a lot of marketing too, and

572
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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing about making sure that everybody has a great

573
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Speaker 1: time in a tropical paradise at a time that the

574
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Speaker 1: rest of the league is working. Let's welcome in our

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Speaker 1: Steve Whites to the conversation. Ian It's been an interesting

576
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Speaker 1: journey here for the Rams through the course of this offseason.

577
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Speaker 1: I'll trace him back to Worth the combine. There were

578
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Speaker 1: real questions about the future of Matthew Stafford, who finally,

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Speaker 1: as you reported last week, has a contract that locks

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Speaker 1: him in for this year and potentially beyond.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I guess Cabo is booked, so instead

582
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Speaker 4: of Cabo is mawing, and that would really bring this

583
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Speaker 4: whole thing full circle. Have the whole mini camp in

584
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Speaker 4: that little reserve when they first got Matthew Stafford. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about stafford contract. You see on the lower

586
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Speaker 4: third there. Stafford left twenty million dollars on the table

587
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Speaker 4: to stay with the Rams, that I believe from a

588
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Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated report.

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Speaker 2: I believe that is correct.

590
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Speaker 4: And we talked about this at the time of Stafford

591
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Speaker 4: not agreeing to terms with the Rams because the contract

592
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: wasn't really done, but basically telling them that he wanted

593
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Speaker 4: to stay, and the contract ended up being forty four

594
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Speaker 4: million dollars for this year, then essentially an option for

595
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Speaker 4: forty million dollars next year.

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Speaker 2: It is probably the right amount.

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Speaker 4: It is an amount that means Stafford didn't have to

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Speaker 4: take a pay cut to stay with the Rams.

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Speaker 2: It means the Rams could pay him a.

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Speaker 4: Somewhat reasonable salary. I think most important show Steve, he

601
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Speaker 4: did not want to leave. He thought about leaving, He

602
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Speaker 4: did not want to leave. He has the opportunity potentially

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Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, to win the Super Bowl, all

604
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Speaker 4: the things you're out there for the Rams and Stafford

605
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Speaker 4: with McVeigh, he just didn't.

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Speaker 2: Want to leave.

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Speaker 12: And I think that's what it came down to him

608
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Speaker 12: and his family. Like living in southern California, they won

609
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Speaker 12: a Super Bowl here, his kids are getting a little

610
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Speaker 12: bit older, their used to the environment. Plus, like you

611
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Speaker 12: started this segment, they go to mini camp.

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Speaker 2: Over in Maui.

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Speaker 12: Plus, Stafford's coming back to a very loaded roster. Remember

614
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Speaker 12: they added Davonte Adams to go with Pooka Nikua. They've

615
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 12: got this defense that added Poona Ford at nose tackle.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty complete. And then in the draft end they.

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Speaker 12: Get Terrence Ferguson the tight end out of the University

618
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Speaker 12: of Oregon. This is an interesting chip because Tyler Higbey,

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Speaker 12: the tight end who Staffords played most of his time

620
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Speaker 12: with with the Rams, he just turned thirty two years old.

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Speaker 12: He's in the last year of his deal. But now

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Speaker 12: they get a flex tight end. The Rams wide receivers

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Speaker 12: to two at well Xavier Smith in the slot.

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Speaker 2: They're smaller guys. Now they're getting kind of a move

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Speaker 2: tight end.

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Speaker 12: It's where if they want to go three big receivers

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Speaker 12: with Puka Davante and now with Ferguson, they can do that.

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Speaker 2: So they this gives them options. They can open up

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Speaker 2: their offense.

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Speaker 12: Plus they've got an in house replacment for Higbee, like

631
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Speaker 12: I said, whose contract expires at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: See, we haven't talked a lot about Terrence Ferguson through

633
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Speaker 1: since the draft, even though the guy was the second

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Speaker 1: round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over in San Francisco. Who's the name.

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Speaker 1: We also haven't really talked a whole lot about. That's

637
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Speaker 1: been on your mind.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Jordan Watkins, the rookie wiers here, fourth round draft pick,

639
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 12: got old miss. He is going to have some opportunities

640
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Speaker 12: early in the season to get on the field. Remember

641
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Speaker 12: Brandon Iyuk, who was kind of his cop coming out

642
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 12: at least in terms of physical specs, is still coming

643
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Speaker 12: back from that knee injury. Remembering towards ACL and his

644
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 12: mcl so, Watkins is gonna have an opportunity to earn

645
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 12: some playing time early. Now they've got Ricky Piersall, Juwan

646
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 12: Jennings a very good player. They got DeMarcus Robinson, a

647
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Speaker 12: big wide receiver from the Rams to go up there.

648
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Speaker 12: So they've got some veterans in place. But if he

649
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Speaker 12: flashes in training camp, and you know with the forty nine,

650
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Speaker 12: is he better block once they get into pads in

651
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Speaker 12: the run game, he's got an opportunity to see some

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Speaker 12: playing time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sure does.

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Speaker 4: Really a question, it's not a question of who's going

655
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Speaker 4: to be thrown in the football truly is how rich

656
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Speaker 4: is the person who's going to be thrown in the football?

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Speaker 4: Black Perdie's contract situation still remains in fux. Now he

658
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Speaker 4: has showed up, he has done well, he has done

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Speaker 4: kind of right by the team, and I would say

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Speaker 4: minimize distraction my understanding. Really no new new news here,

661
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Speaker 4: but things are going well.

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Speaker 2: Talks are progressing.

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Speaker 4: It didn't sound like a deal is imminent, but at

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Speaker 4: least both sides are communicating. And for brock Purty in

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, that's really where you want to be.

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Speaker 2: His number is going to start with a five.

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Speaker 4: So he is expected to be a fifty million dollar quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Just where in that fifty range he's going to be.

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Speaker 4: And I would not be surprised at all if we

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Speaker 4: get a deal before the season. In fact, that would

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Speaker 4: be surprised Tom. If there wasn't if there was no

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Speaker 4: news the he played at his current deal, that would

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Speaker 4: be a surprise.

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Speaker 2: However, I say.

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Speaker 4: That Giants picked a whole bunch of players in the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five NFL Draft, picked the quarterback, that picked

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Speaker 4: a generation of talent at edge rusher.

678
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Speaker 2: But I got a.

679
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Speaker 4: Funny feeling you're going to be hearing a lot about

680
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Speaker 4: this guy, Cam Scatabo, the do it all running back,

681
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Speaker 4: fourth rounder, who I would say, for a variety of reasons,

682
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Speaker 4: certainly garnered the public's attention, which went to his time

683
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Speaker 4: for do his first for him to do his first

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Speaker 4: interview with the Giants.

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Speaker 13: I mean, people want to say they can sleep, you know.

686
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Speaker 13: I have no issue with that. It's been something I've

687
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Speaker 13: had to deal with my whole life. So I'm going

688
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Speaker 13: to continue to do what I need to do to

689
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Speaker 13: be successful and play as long as I can in

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Speaker 13: this league.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're all underrated in our world as well,

692
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Speaker 4: bringing back Mike Garafoam Mark Ross, thank you as always

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Speaker 4: for hanging out with us and joining us. Let's talk

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Speaker 4: about some rookies who have been in perfect position to succeed.

695
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Speaker 4: I'll stick with the Giants, not cam Scattabo. Tell me

696
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: about Abdul Card and why you believe that about him?

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Speaker 14: Number one on my list no matter where he went,

698
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Speaker 14: he would have been number one on my list just

699
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Speaker 14: because this guy is just dynamic. But let's talk about

700
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Speaker 14: with a few bright spots for the Giants last year,

701
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Speaker 14: and it was the pass rush there led by Dexter

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Speaker 14: Lawrence and Brian Burns, who actually were eighth in the

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Speaker 14: league in sacks.

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Speaker 2: So here you go.

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Speaker 14: You throw Abdul Carter in the mix there with such

706
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Speaker 14: versatility with those two guys, maybe get km On Tibodeau,

707
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Speaker 14: a little incentive, defended, a little harder, down in and

708
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Speaker 14: down out. So you got that whole mix of guys

709
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Speaker 14: right there. So without dual Carter, say, man, let me

710
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Speaker 14: go feast because all the attentions on Burns and Dexter fellas.

711
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Speaker 14: So watch out Rookie of the year right there.

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Speaker 5: How about a guy who might walk, I'll do a

713
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Speaker 5: carter maybe not head up, like maybe he just kind

714
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Speaker 5: of pulls around or there's a switch or something like that.

715
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Speaker 5: Tyler Booker, because he's inside playing guard for the Cowboys,

716
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Speaker 5: it's definitely in a position to succeed.

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Speaker 14: Right well, you better believe Tyler Booker's going to be

718
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Speaker 14: trying to take his heart out of there, like he said,

719
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Speaker 14: take the love out of football. There for a whole

720
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Speaker 14: bunch of guys. And if you're an offensive lineman, you

721
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Speaker 14: want to get drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, who have

722
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Speaker 14: shown when Tyron Smith eight Pro Bowls, Zac Martin nine

723
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Speaker 14: Pro Bowls, and even Tyler Smith has already been in

724
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Speaker 14: two Pro Bowls. So they're trying to rebuild those building

725
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Speaker 14: blocks up there with another Tyler Guidon. So Dallas cornering

726
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Speaker 14: the market on massive guys offensive lineman named Tyler and

727
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Speaker 14: get back to those ways when they had the best

728
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Speaker 14: offensive line of the league and really mashing people.

729
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Speaker 4: You know, one of the most obvious picks of the

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Speaker 4: drafts at least one of the most mocked picks of

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Speaker 4: the draft, was Malachi Starks to the Baltimore Ravens, so

732
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Speaker 4: much so that Eric to Costa was nervous that he

733
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be there because everyone knew they were taking him.

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Speaker 4: What kind of position is Malachi Starks in in Baltimore.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, there was no substant fuge with Malachi Starts in

736
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Speaker 14: the Ravens as you said, and everybody had it.

737
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Speaker 2: It's like when it happened and.

738
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Speaker 14: It was shocking, but still like, okay, yeah, that's a

739
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Speaker 14: Ravens pick there. And to team up with Kyle Hamilton

740
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Speaker 14: and Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins, who I think is

741
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Speaker 14: going to be fantastic in year two in that secondary,

742
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Speaker 14: it just gets defensive coordinator Zach Or so much versatility

743
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Speaker 14: to move all of those guys around because they are

744
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Speaker 14: just football players who know how to play the game,

745
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Speaker 14: high IQ guys who play hard. So Malachi Starts could

746
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Speaker 14: not have landed in a better situation to learn with

747
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Speaker 14: the versatility that Kyle Hamilton already provided.

748
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Speaker 5: All Right, now, let's talk Jack Besh with the Las

749
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Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 14: Jack bash out of TCU, who I thought was supremely

751
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Speaker 14: underrated as a receiver. I thought he was up there

752
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Speaker 14: with those first round guys as far as talent. And

753
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Speaker 14: you talk about going into a situation where I think

754
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Speaker 14: he walks onto the Raiders as their number one wide receiver.

755
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Speaker 14: Already you just got to beat out to Kobe Myers

756
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Speaker 14: for that, So not the bar is not too high,

757
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Speaker 14: but all the attention you're going to go to brock

758
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Speaker 14: Bauers number one, and then of course the rookie Ashton

759
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Speaker 14: Genty who got taken at the top of the first round.

760
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Speaker 14: So here you go, all the attention there with the

761
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Speaker 14: defensive besh can come in there and say.

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Speaker 2: I'm the number one guy.

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Speaker 14: Gino, you've already thrown for four k two of the

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Speaker 14: last three years.

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Speaker 2: Keep throwing in me. I'll make some big plays for you.

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Speaker 4: Not a bad idea for the Las Vegas Raiders. I

767
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Speaker 4: like it, Mark, thank you very much. As all the

768
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: great stuff and some big time, big name rookies prime

769
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Speaker 4: for a lot of success this season.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere, so you're not the same Larry.

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Speaker 5: Mike left cheer here, can well out here here and

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Speaker 5: he'll be puck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably move away from Mike White. Usually he's still

774
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Speaker 2: the Sliders.

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Speaker 3: See I mean here, then.

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Speaker 2: Show right, got some leads, shoes, some slides of air

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Speaker 2: and seer.

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Speaker 5: Shorts and just kind of gets you started up getting

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Speaker 5: so I'm stuff. Yeah, that was my first thought was

780
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Speaker 5: why did he not have an open locker next to him?

781
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Speaker 5: Usually for star players, they have a lot of stuff.

782
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Speaker 5: First of all, a lot of stuff arrived, so you

783
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 5: need the extra space for that, and their star players,

784
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Speaker 5: you'd like to give them room, especially if they're large individuals.

785
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Speaker 2: Like Mike Evans.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Sarah Walsh, Welcome, Hi, Happy belated Mother's Day to you.

787
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Speaker 5: I think we're talking Mother's Day coming up in a

788
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Speaker 5: couple of blocks.

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Speaker 2: Here in the show. But let's talk about the Buccaneers

790
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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about a Mecca Abuka and the impact that

792
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Speaker 5: he's making, the impression that he's making in Tampa Bay

793
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Speaker 5: so far.

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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, the Buccaneers just wrapped up their

795
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Speaker 15: rookie mini camp over the weekend. They wrap that up

796
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Speaker 15: on Sunday. That doesn't mean that these guys go away.

797
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Speaker 15: A lot of them still at the facility. They're going

798
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Speaker 15: to be working out. They're not going to get back

799
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Speaker 15: together until May twenty seventh for the Organized Act activities.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 15: Now, if you know Todd Bowles, he's not one to

802
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Speaker 15: be over the top about anyone, right, So when he

803
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Speaker 15: was asked about any of these guys and Meccha Buka,

804
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Speaker 15: any of these guys that rather this week and he said, look,

805
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Speaker 15: this is a T shirt and shorts kind of practices. However,

806
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 15: there's massive expectations and hope for Abuca because he's joining

807
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Speaker 15: a receiver group that could potentially be one of the best.

808
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Speaker 15: Jalen McMillan, who's going into his second year this season,

809
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Speaker 15: told me in the last couple of days he believes

810
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Speaker 15: they can be the best if they put in the

811
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Speaker 15: work this offseason. As far as Abuka, he said his

812
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Speaker 15: goal when he arrived there was to do everything that's

813
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Speaker 15: asked of them over these last couple of days, to

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Speaker 15: make a few mistakes as possible, and to play fast

815
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 15: and obviously that will come the more reps that they get.

816
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Speaker 15: And he's already getting to know his quarterback. Although it

817
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Speaker 15: wasn't Baker throwing to him over the weekend, but Baker

818
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Speaker 15: did take him out to brunch along with Emily Mayfield.

819
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Speaker 15: They took the whole family of Abuka out to brunch

820
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Speaker 15: along with some linemen. So they have been working together

821
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Speaker 15: at least when it comes to sitting down and ordering food.

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Speaker 15: But that's important stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mike gi.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but don't get comfortable, mister Abuka, because one of

825
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Speaker 5: these days you're going to have to pick up that tab.

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Speaker 5: That's what rookies do, and it's going to be bigger

827
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Speaker 5: than that brunch tab. I promise you that. On the

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Speaker 5: other side of the ball, the Bucks making significant investments

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Speaker 5: in their secondary throughout the draft process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, receiver wasn't exactly a position to need.

831
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Speaker 15: We were just talking about who they used their first

832
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Speaker 15: round pick on, but then you look at the secondary,

833
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Speaker 15: and especially at cornerback, that is an issue that was

834
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Speaker 15: concerning for the Bucks simply from the depth perspective, because

835
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Speaker 15: they had a lot of injuries they dealt with last year.

836
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Speaker 15: So here's a couple of the things that they did.

837
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Speaker 15: Benjamin Morrison was their second round pick. He was out

838
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Speaker 15: there running around, which Todd Bule says was good to

839
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Speaker 15: see because he's coming off and hip injury coming out

840
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Speaker 15: of Notre Dame. Bowle says that they hope to have

841
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Speaker 15: him full speed by the time they get to training camp,

842
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Speaker 15: and it's obviously something they're going to monitor if he

843
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Speaker 15: can participate in o Ta's bull so that would be

844
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Speaker 15: a huge bonus. And then there's Jacob Parrish, their third

845
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Speaker 15: round pick, and I mentioned Tod doesn't really rave about anyone,

846
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Speaker 15: but he did say Parish was the fastest guy out

847
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Speaker 15: on the football field this weekend, and he did say

848
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Speaker 15: he flashed a little bit, had some interceptions. And then

849
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Speaker 15: Mike g because I know on this show you love

850
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Speaker 15: to talk about anyone with the name of Sanders, you

851
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Speaker 15: didn't tell me. I had to qualify it by which Sanders.

852
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Speaker 15: There is a Sanders on the Buccaneers. Shiloh Sanders assigned

853
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Speaker 15: immediately once this draft was over, so he's an undrafted

854
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 15: free agent for the Bucks. He met with the media

855
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Speaker 15: over the weekend and he fits what Tudboles is looking for.

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Speaker 15: He said he wants ballhawks and Sanders said that he

857
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Speaker 15: will force picks fumbles anyway he has to do it.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's looking for.

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Speaker 15: Bulls also praised his ability to communicate be.

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Speaker 2: A leader out there.

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Speaker 15: He's his safety and he said, yeah, just trying to

862
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Speaker 15: get comfortable. But he talked about the fact that once

863
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Speaker 15: he's comfortable, he can be very loud. I'm not sure

864
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Speaker 15: that that's totally surprising to a lot of people, but look,

865
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Speaker 15: there's a real opportunity for him here at safety because

866
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Speaker 15: you've got Antoine Winfield junior, maybe Tyke Smith the other

867
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Speaker 15: starting safety. But they didn't resign Jordan Whitehead Mike Edwards.

868
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Speaker 15: That's another position of depth that they've been concerned with.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, he has been on the phone

870
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Speaker 15: with his brother a lot. He says, his brother caught

871
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Speaker 15: him all the time. He says he misses his brotherly

872
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Speaker 15: love there. So he said, schadore him. Are on the

873
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Speaker 15: same schedule, he says, he calls them every day six am.

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Speaker 5: The Buccaneers do not play the Browns in the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five seasons. Say, if you have a vision of

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Speaker 5: Sanders picking off Sanders, perhaps that'll be down the road

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Speaker 5: if those guys are still with that with those teams

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Speaker 5: and playing by the time those two teams.

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Speaker 2: Beat, we shall see.

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Speaker 5: Charah Walsh, thank you very much for your insight there

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Speaker 5: on the Buccaneers always appreciate you providing that.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna talk about the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Feel like since Aaron Rodgers left, we just haven't talked

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Speaker 5: about the Jets and up so Jets fans stay tuned

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Speaker 5: talking about Armond Memboo and more.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next to the instters.

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Speaker 1: The Jets wrapped up their rookie mini camp in slow motion. No,

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Speaker 1: just this video is in slow motion, the rest of

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Speaker 1: it in real time. First time on the grass with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn as their head coach, and the first look

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Speaker 1: the number seven overall pick armand Membo with they certainly

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Speaker 1: being a big part of that offensive line literally and

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Speaker 1: figuratively four years to come. Welcome back to the Insiders,

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Speaker 1: Tom Pilla Sero, joined once again by Steve White. Steve,

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Speaker 1: what does the drafting of MEMBOO say to you about

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Speaker 1: what they want this team to look like?

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Speaker 2: With Aaron Glennis the head coach, Well, I think.

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Speaker 12: About Aaron Glenney comes from the Detroit Lions, right the

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Speaker 12: head coach that was Dan Campbell, who was Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 12: first draft pick with Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Oh Penney Sewell, a right tackle.

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Speaker 12: Where was he drafted number seven overall, the same as

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Speaker 12: armand Membo. So this tells me that Aaron Glenn, who

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Speaker 12: is a tough Bill Parcells disciple, is trying to build

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Speaker 12: his team much like they did in Detroit through the trenches.

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Speaker 12: Now they've already got some good players on that offensive front.

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Speaker 12: Now you've got Membu, a right tackle, a very physical

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Speaker 12: but athletic player also to become a building block. Now,

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Speaker 12: with Justin Fields is the quarterback and ty Taylor as

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Speaker 12: his backup, you're also looking at an athletic right tackle

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Speaker 12: who can block in the RPO game and the moving

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Speaker 12: pocket pass game. So that's another reason why that happened. Now,

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Speaker 12: remember people said, oh, Tyler Warren, the tight end that

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Speaker 12: of Penn State could be their guy. Well they went

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Speaker 12: on got Mason Taylor, Jason Taylor's son, as a tight

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Speaker 12: end in the second round. Those two young players can

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Speaker 12: grow together, become kind of a tandem from time to time,

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Speaker 12: but again in the trenches up front. That's what it

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Speaker 12: tells me about the type of front and team and

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Speaker 12: Glenn is trying to build.

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter already as popular as any NFL rookie, particularly

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Speaker 1: if you're the lady who happens to be sitting next

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Speaker 1: to him on a plane. Look at the big smiles

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Speaker 1: there from Travis Hunter and Sandy Hawkins Combs, the posted

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Speaker 1: the photo of the two of them together, said that

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Speaker 1: Hunter could not have been nicer. Sandy Hawkins Combs said

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Speaker 1: to be a guest on Good Morning Football Tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 1: Our David Carr playing golf with his brother and told

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Speaker 1: his name is Derek, and until about seventy two hours ago,

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Speaker 1: he was an NFL player with the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: Derek dealing with that degenerative shoulder condition, can't throw football

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Speaker 1: correctly right now. But Ken blasted down the fairway is

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more time to work on his game,

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Speaker 1: which brings us to an important question.

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Speaker 2: Mike Garifolo, you.

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Speaker 1: Were bragging to me Idian Rapport in our group text

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Speaker 1: this morning about how good your swing is looking right now.

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Speaker 1: Of the three of us, who would have the best

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Speaker 1: chance to beat the car brothers.

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Speaker 5: Ian, I mean he doesn't do anything spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Discourse, All right, great show everyone. Oh sorry, I think hitting.

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Speaker 4: I'm in form I'm hitting them nicely right on the

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Speaker 4: screws shirt.

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Speaker 2: See tomorrow.