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Speaker 1: Guess what decision We're about to make a horrible decisions. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another another God damn it, another episode of horror.

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Speaker 1: But God, when you said another, there is someone who

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Speaker 1: was like, y'all ain't gonna make it till May. We

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Speaker 1: episode of four Decisions. I'm your girl many b a

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I'm sitting next to this hole. Tell

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Speaker 1: Wheezy and you guys, I'm fucking dog crazy right now.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching the YouTube, we have the cutest dog

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Speaker 1: who's more tractive than the dog, But I just can't

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Speaker 1: get over there. We never had We've never had a dog.

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Speaker 1: It's your pet. How on brand is that we have?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Troy. I'm super, super, super excited that

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Speaker 1: it's been a very long time. I want to let

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Speaker 1: you guys know how I met Troy. Super amazing, one

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Speaker 1: of you guys favorite favorite guest here on our show.

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Speaker 1: King Noir. So me, me and King Noir went out

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Speaker 1: my teacher. My teacher is gonna come. You were his teacher. Really, So, guys,

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Speaker 1: if y'all watch King Noir's videos and wonder how he

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Speaker 1: does everything he does? Uh, I actually got to see

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Speaker 1: him practice live with that. Um. Again, you guys know

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Speaker 1: go ahead and introduced kind of what you do and why.

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Speaker 1: That's how I met you. So my name is Olivia

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Speaker 1: Troy umci her. Please call me Troy, of course. And

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Speaker 1: I've been in the b D s M community for

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Speaker 1: too that had like B D S M componenty didn't

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Speaker 1: they find you? Someone's like, yo, we know this, yeah basically,

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Speaker 1: but like, is there sexual consultants generally for TV? When

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Speaker 1: it comes to scenes like this, there can be I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're different, and they're just not many of

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Speaker 1: Fifty Shades of Gray Yes, as in movie. Yes. What

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Speaker 1: and brought me into the writer's room site unseen. Like

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00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: he walked and he's like, I didn't know you were black.

424
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know, Like he was just like I just

425
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: knew I wanted you here and he so he brought

426
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: me in and it was just the three of us.

427
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: It was him, Nana Mensa who plays Mistress. Meira was

428
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: the other writer and right and right or the shows

429
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: the Mistress we've seen seen one like when the show starts,

430
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: she's a writer. Yeah, she's a writer. She's a writer, director,

431
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: she's a do No, she's not a dom no, she's

432
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: an actor. I felt that, Oh wow, she really acted

433
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, she did really really spend a lot

434
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: of time talking. Look like it's really well. I want

435
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: to get real quick into our sex topics because I

436
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: do want to continue more, uh for our horrible decision.

437
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: I want to talk about again the contraptions, the cost

438
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: of it, because again we had little fogs in here

439
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: and normally, yeah, it's not really super expensive for the

440
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: things that we may get on Adam and Eve. Uh

441
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: damn con we bleeped them out that ain't paying foot

442
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: on him, So I'm just playing they that. But uh,

443
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: we're talked about the Bible. Yellow shut up, So we're

444
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna get it too our horder real quick. I actually

445
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: did want to give um my sex tip for this

446
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: week is actually a sex tip from a professional dominatrix,

447
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: and please correct it if it's wrong, and then I

448
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: would love you to give a tip and then we're

449
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: gonna round it up with you for a tip. So

450
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: this one, uh, this one is from Huffington Post. This

451
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: dominatrix actually said take orgasms out of the equation. That

452
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be my tip. Yes, did you give it?

453
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Let me hear, let me let me hear what they say. Okay,

454
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: and you can add refine it. So try having some

455
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: intimate time together without ending it in an orgasm. Flir,

456
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: make out, dirty talk, Maybe you stimulate each other's genitals

457
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: a little, maybe you completely avoid it. Play with sexual arousal,

458
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: get super horny together but no orgasming. Talk about what

459
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: you liked and didn't like afterwards with your partner. You

460
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: may learn something new about yourself. So much of our

461
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: sexualized is determined by a drive towards orgasm. A lot

462
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: of b D s M is what happens when you

463
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: stop making orgasms the sole or primary purpose of being sexual.

464
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: It's about experimenting and pushing the boundaries of your mental

465
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: turn ons and physical responses. When you intentionally remove orgasm

466
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: as a target, it forces you to open up your

467
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: idea of what sexual interaction is all about and start

468
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: exploring that new found space. This is from mistress Iris,

469
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: who is a professional dominatrix in Los Angeles. Yes, I

470
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: do you well, you know everybody? So that was her

471
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: tip and you agree? Would you add anything to that?

472
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: I agree? Well, so my sex my sex tip was

473
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: going to be um was to was specifically actually to

474
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: say deny your man an orgasm? Oh so edging no no,

475
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: not edging, no, just come at all. You don't get

476
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: to come. And so so I've heard i'll talk about

477
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: chasty chasti devices, chasti cages, so um, so that's an

478
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: extreme way of making sure that they don't come. But

479
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: the thing is is that if you control a man's orgasm,

480
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: you control him, you can well because the wallet will

481
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: open up if you control the world. I get it.

482
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: You can't come until you buy me, yes, exactly, I

483
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: mean that's what it is. And so like the fun

484
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: part is if you actually can put a chasty cage

485
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: on it, like lock it up and just say, like

486
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: you can you can get out of this once you

487
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: get me off, or you can get out of this

488
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: after you buy me this. You know, you can make

489
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: it conditional, but like and but make it fun and

490
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: and then but you don't have to have the cage.

491
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like you can just sort of make it

492
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: part of your experience for that day or that evening

493
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: where you spend all day, you know, saying like you

494
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: don't get to come until I've come. I'm doing this

495
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: ship tonight. Are you Until you talk like you don't

496
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: get to come until lift come? Six times you don't

497
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: get to come until you make me breakfast. You don't

498
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: get to cot like and like, let's just see how

499
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: long you can wait, and you may if you can

500
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: try it for a day, try it for a night,

501
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: then try it for a day, then try it for

502
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: two or three days, and once they actually associate their pleasure,

503
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: like they're coming with you, what do you want? I

504
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: really liked that a lot. You want because I like

505
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: holding organs like I like orgasm is being earned. Um.

506
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: And I used to have a dumb like would tell

507
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: me when I'm allowed to come, and I thought that

508
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: was so much fun. But I never have done in

509
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: the reverse. But it's also also like leveraging gifts because

510
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: that's my love life. It's hard. I had a friend recently,

511
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: she's a mutual friend actually, and she broke up with

512
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: her boyfriend and because he wasn't coming and talking about Yeah,

513
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: but I'm a part of that, a part of that.

514
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: She didn't tell this on her podcast. She was one

515
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: of the but it was like they had been dating

516
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: for months a week so much so to where she

517
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: was like, I kind of want to have a threesome

518
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: one him, just to see if another if he comes

519
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: with someone else, like and it was so frustrating. And

520
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately a lot of us as women, tie

521
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: orgasms a man's orgasm to their pleasure or liking of us.

522
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: What was the reason, wasn't she didn't? He didn't when

523
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: I was so when I started having sex, I didn't

524
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: have an orgasm. Women don't for a for a long time.

525
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: But they all did and the first time and no,

526
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: but and and there was never any concern about the

527
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: fact that she wasn't having one, and so once I

528
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: actually kind of understood that, it was just like, oh, wait,

529
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't feel guilty at all about you, not like yeah,

530
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: it's like I went a long time without it. And

531
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: it's not their only partners. You don't think he'd be

532
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: like like, it doesn't have to be permanent, but it's

533
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: but no, no, he never comes. No, not no, no, no,

534
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: currently no, I don't think you get it. I don't

535
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: never go. I don't think yet. I don't think you're

536
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna get He did never as much as they were

537
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: having sex, that he came the first time and never

538
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: came in, and he never came again, and he started

539
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: like eating at her that he never came, Okay, but

540
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: didn't eat at him? Did it bother him? He was

541
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: just a good question. I don't know. We didn't get

542
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: both sides of the do you want to call it?

543
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Kind of? You cool with that? I'm fine and we

544
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: were just sex and earlier. Way. Is there a way

545
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to make sure we can hear her? I'm just gonna

546
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: put it up to right here. Okay, you got it,

547
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: but we gotta we gotta find out because and I

548
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: would like for even your input on if we overthow

549
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: that we're on the podcast, if you don't want us

550
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: to talk about it, can we talk about your boyfriend?

551
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: They never came? Yeah, I don't care. Okay, this is

552
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: um Troy. We're here with her. Mandy's also behind this.

553
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: So she had a great question because we were talking

554
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: about how he never came and it got on your nerves.

555
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: You weren't okay with him ever coming. But Troy asked,

556
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: was he okay with never coming? Um? He he he was.

557
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I guess he was fine. He just he would just stop. Yeah,

558
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: when you came, he would stop. Yeah, like he said no, yeah,

559
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: and then like because you know I could keep going,

560
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: at some point he would just stop and be like, okay,

561
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: you would just say okay, yeah, like and then at

562
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: one point he even was like, this is never happened.

563
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: It's never happened, like with cheating before. I'm like, yeah, no, nigga, no.

564
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: So when you broke up with him, did you literally

565
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: say like either you get you come or I'm done. Well,

566
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I was like, well what do you think? First of all,

567
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: I ended up bringing up them he can't bring with

568
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: me because I cheated on him, but because yeah, I

569
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: ask you that. He was like, um, I was like,

570
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: so what are we gonna would it? What's gonna happen

571
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: if you never come? And I'm like, what do you

572
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: think we could do about that? I was because obviously

573
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: like I want you to come, and obviously you want

574
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: to come, and he was just like um, he was

575
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: just I guess we'll just see what happens, and like

576
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't okay. That wasn't good enough for me. I'm like,

577
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: do you have a kink that I need to know

578
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: about or something like are you I think honestly would

579
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: it end up being is that he was nervous, and

580
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: I think that he he knew that I had a

581
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: lot of sexual experiences and was intimidated, and I think

582
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: he got in his head. One time he told me

583
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: he knew. I was like, he knew after seven songs

584
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: that it wasn't gonna happen. And why did you know? Yeah,

585
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: you like so so, But why did Why was it

586
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: so important to you that he come? If you were

587
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: having pleasure, if you enjoyed it, I got the job done. So.

588
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't complaining, if he wasn't saying, oh,

589
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, why am I not getting my nut?

590
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: If he wasn't complaining, what didn't matter? Because I'm programmed

591
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: to believe that if my vagina is performing up to par,

592
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: this is what happens. You get weak, you make these noises.

593
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: That's my winning moment. I don't hear those noises and

594
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: see those toes curl. What this fun is going on?

595
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: Are you a giver? Mila? I am so? But he so? Alright, alright,

596
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. When we bring you guys back, let's

597
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: not talk about everybody. Say by to everyone, Mila. You see,

598
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we just said. As women, we are

599
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: programmed too, for the climax, for the ending of the movie,

600
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: for the that's all folks, to be the man. Right.

601
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: But but However, how many times have you been with

602
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: him and you haven't come? And it's not that you

603
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: didn't like it. It's not that you didn't enjoy yourself.

604
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: It's not that there was anything wrong with it. It's

605
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: not that you weren't satisfied at the end. It just

606
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't happen. For you have been satisfied without coming, right,

607
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: And we are we are conditioned to be like, oh no,

608
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: that's all fine, I'm good, you know, like oh you know, like,

609
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: oh it's it's so it's just hard for me to come,

610
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: or it takes or you like, we're made to feel

611
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: we make excuses for a man be honest about you.

612
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I would say I've stopped doing that. Yeah, I mean

613
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: mainly because I masturbate during sex now, like full on

614
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: while you're in me. If I feel like my clips

615
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: not being like because I mean I need a lot

616
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: of stimulation, and normally it's on top, I can get

617
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: it without touching it. But like, if I can't come

618
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: vaginally and I know it's about to be over because

619
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: you're about to come, I'm like, okay, yeah, no, no,

620
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 1: you keep pumping because I'm gonna keep wait. So can

621
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I ask real quick so like I've had partners before

622
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: who were like unsatisfied for the fact that I did

623
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: not come, right, So what do you say or do

624
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: in order to this is a bad word, but to

625
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: make up for it good? How do I make up

626
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: for that? Because then, like it's been it was two

627
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: different partners than like they felt not at the same time,

628
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: but they felt don't come. That takes me a long time.

629
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: It takes me a long time, Like I know what

630
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: to do if that's to me, am I, but you

631
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it feel bad if it's

632
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: not from penetration, right, So, um so one is that

633
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: is you can say, like just in the same way

634
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: that that she might only be able to come from

635
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: clutural stimulation or from you know, some other thing, or

636
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: she can't come unless her nipples are being pinched or

637
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: something like that, like whatever her trick is. It's just like, hey,

638
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't really come from penetration. I you know, this

639
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: is the way that I come, and you know, and

640
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy with this, you know, And here's and here

641
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: if you want to be involved with it, like here's

642
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: what you can do to help. Um So one, I'd

643
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: say that and then um and then the other way

644
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: is to just say, like to to remind them that

645
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: they have had experiences where they've had sex and they

646
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: haven't come, and you know, and just and just to

647
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: say like, look, you know that you enjoyed it still,

648
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: that you had a good time. It wasn't their fault

649
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: that you didn't come. It's like, it's not your fault either.

650
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: It's I would just you know, only words of affirmation

651
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: to to also just make sure she knows you still

652
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: had a really good time. I would definitely do that,

653
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I love this, And

654
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean you can also spend it as like I

655
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: didn't come and that means we can keep going. You know,

656
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I would take pride about that. And then but I

657
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: would get that not like it would be kind of

658
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: a negative reaction like how come you in come yet?

659
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, I ain't gonna lie. When

660
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: a man take loan to come, I'll be like, literally

661
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: we'll be having sex. And this is back when I

662
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: was a hoho, but like I mean not just one,

663
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: but that's the time before. But when I was really sucking,

664
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Like we would literally be in the middle of sex

665
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: and I'd be like you must suck bitches without condoms,

666
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: and that's with a problem. You want you dirty? Do

667
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: you need to take the condom? And literally I'd be like,

668
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: I'd literally be like, it's because it ain't raw, huh,

669
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm getting tired now, but because if you're relationships,

670
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: like if you're used to having relationships x, like I

671
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: use a condom with someone knew recently, and um, I

672
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: remember thinking like, damn, I don't know this niggle like that,

673
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: like I can't be you know what I'm saying, Like

674
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: I got a whole man and I'm gonna like I

675
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: can't just take the ship off. But at the same time,

676
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this is why I know I'm not

677
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: enjoying it too much. And even that was the conversation

678
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: just had too because my man we talked about the

679
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: sex club and w and I'd let him play with girls,

680
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: and he's like the the guy there that has already

681
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: asked permission for him to play with me, and he

682
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: just really thinks I'm like being shy about not wanting

683
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: to bring a guy in the room because he thinks

684
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: he thinks I think I'm gonna look, you know, think

685
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: that he thinks I'm different and all this stuff. And

686
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I really told him like, even though I kind of

687
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: do want to do like a couple of swap, I'm

688
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: trying to set it up actually with one of my

689
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: old niggas because now he's single. But he sent me

690
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: videos at a bit I said, oh, my man will

691
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: allow us all to play, so maybe we should set

692
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: it up. But I'm just like, there's no way I

693
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: can suck you raw. So I'm also just thing like

694
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: love and talk about condom get it is. But but

695
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: now that I have just one partner, a part of

696
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: me does not want to go where maybe this condom

697
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: now my pH will be sucked up. He's someone else.

698
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: My nigga does not unbalance me. So a partner, you

699
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, my ship not only is my

700
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: scale balance, this pH just balance. And so like I

701
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: have fear and having sex with someone else, even if

702
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: a condom is used, we know them condoms be fucking

703
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: shut up. To see you to that advice, though, I

704
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: would say, like even because a condom, you've got to

705
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: really find what works for you about truthful, like maybe

706
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: we can't just think like a raw dick would be

707
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: better for a pH than no condom, because I don't

708
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: think that that's not the truth. It's just that you

709
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: guys truly have just normalized, right, Like when you start

710
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: working for someone for a while, it just becomes not

711
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: like he's just him. I don't even sex niggas. That's

712
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: what god niggas out here calling me freeing because I

713
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: don't send them news no more. I was like, damn

714
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: emphasis on free. He said, you don't watch me bust nuts, snowmo,

715
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: you don't send me pictures, you don't send me news.

716
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: I said, I have a whole nigga. Now I'm sorry,

717
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't care about you. I've been to Mandy

718
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: with the wig. She shut up anyways, remember not. But

719
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, condom, making sure that you find

720
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: a condom you like. So I an't really have the

721
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: home and not the man. Yes, the man has the

722
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: matter too, but that's the thing too, we just be

723
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: letting these niggas. You need you bring the condom you like.

724
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: When I was in l A, I knew I had

725
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: a feeling I might get some digging. I did, and

726
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so I know I'm gonna bring

727
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: my own condoms. I like skin, but right they really

728
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: are the ships. They really are. Give us an ad

729
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: so I love them. Your ad can go right here,

730
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: so that this can go right here. To be fair,

731
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: and guys, we're not being paid for this. That is

732
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: probably one of the best, not only for a woman,

733
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: but they have all of these different options. Uh, there's

734
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: like the magnums just pulling out that gold rapper, because

735
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: as soon as y'all niggas really pull it out, we'll

736
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: be like the room about the smell. You donna think

737
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: it's me not anothing about the smell when you leave, Like,

738
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be lingering condoms And I think that

739
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: once you find a condom that matches your body. Uh,

740
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: you just have to be honest. And I was like, listen,

741
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh you use those, Um, we'll let

742
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: me be clear. I do not happened, and so right whatever,

743
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: but I don't lie. Um, we ended up using the bag.

744
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: You just shut up. She needs this whole speech to

745
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: be a hypocrite anyway. Decision was just shut up because

746
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: you just thought, you know, the speech that gave you

747
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: should give too. It's just you shouldn't succumb to a man.

748
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: He was just so dominant, like a like, alright, so

749
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: horrible decision. I do want to talk about if you

750
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: guys watch Bonding, if you guys are into b DSM,

751
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: we've brought up mad regular, vanilla, fucking floggers, paddles, basic ship.

752
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: We just brought up the chastity uh, the chat device.

753
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: It's not that basic, but it's not that it's a

754
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: little hard to find. I want to ask you what

755
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: is the most expensive contraption and that you have at

756
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: your studio that you've even run it out and have

757
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: to teach people, like what's the most expensive sex to

758
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: what you have? One of the most expensive things is

759
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: actually a chasti device. Really, I was going to see

760
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: the city and ride I thought would be I know,

761
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have one of those, but the

762
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: city and it's a it's a female masturbation machine. So

763
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: it's basically saddle and so you sit on it and

764
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: it vibrates or because I couldn't imagine that, dad, that

765
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. But but the chastis cage that

766
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: I have, can I say who makes it or where

767
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: it's from? Okay, so your ad can go here too.

768
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: The olden days. No, no, no, no, no, these are

769
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: custom made in Canada by a company called Steelworks Steelworks Extreme.

770
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: I think it is this dee r chas and um

771
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: and it is a four thousand dollar cat Chasti cage.

772
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: It is made out of titanium and he but he's

773
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: made ones that were twenty thou dollars dollars people, Why

774
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: genuinely why did they come from from? Because it's made

775
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: out of titanium. Because of because these are like custom made,

776
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: and however in your kit yeah, I mean these are spoke,

777
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: so however intricate, they'll they'll be kinds that have like, um,

778
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: your wreath will plugs that go in that you know,

779
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: have containers. Yeah, basically, um so because you wear it

780
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: full time and so it's so that way you can

781
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: still your name put in the I just thought you

782
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: had it's just us. It's a short. It's a short.

783
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: There you go. So that's really that's yeah, that's a

784
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: that's that one's called like the Shonda mask, Shanda mask.

785
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: I think that's acreucible, okay, ums something like that. Alchemist

786
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be so it goes around the balls too, Yes,

787
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: and you know what does that fucking clock? It's the

788
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: same punk Yeah, so haven't see one that's called like

789
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: the creature. I think you do their goddamn website too.

790
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: You know every day you have this one, right, So no,

791
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't have that long that looks cool. I have

792
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: to page the beasts. But the idea is that they

793
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: so they're custom made, they're made for long term wear.

794
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: There're people who were there seven I pulled up really quick.

795
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: The history of chastity belts. Does anyone have a guess

796
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: of the year. Probably I would say more like sixteen

797
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: than hundreds. I think so, But it's not it says

798
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: it's not clear um. They Some believe they were made

799
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: in the fourteen century in Italy, but other references have

800
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: the similar device used in the Crusades, Roman and Greek

801
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: times and eleven BC in Paris, women were forced to

802
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: wear iron chastity belts. One version had an iron hoop

803
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: covered with velvet um, and the whop had notches so

804
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: the man could tighten and loosen it depending on his moody.

805
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Chastity belts were often made and only one side. Larger

806
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: women were forced to wear them and suffer the pain

807
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: no matter the fit. Um in the sixteenth and seventeenth

808
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: century is a popular belt in Europe included an iron

809
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: girdle which had a circumference of thirty two inches the

810
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: area surrounding the hips. Basically, you put on like underwear

811
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: for women. And what's crazy is not until this show

812
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: started and I started like learning leaving you you like

813
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: all of your devices, I have no idea who, how

814
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: where they come from. And when we think of chassis devices,

815
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: we do we think of like a lock and key

816
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: panty for a woman, and so the ideas like the

817
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: cage was the one they were talking about during the Crusades.

818
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: It was for women. Sorry, although that's most of the

819
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: chassis devices started out for women and then eventually it

820
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: became for men, and it was to you know, just

821
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: prevent them from masturbation or prevent them from what would be,

822
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: in your opinion, your kink. He is sex toy. If

823
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: that's like like one that you're like after we just

824
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: saw one called the steam pod, I mean I think

825
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: that it gets kinkier than a chastity belt. I mean,

826
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: like even if you will see bonding, there's a contraption

827
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: where someone is uh levitated in a completely leather mask

828
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: and suspensions. So that's so that's mentioned So one of

829
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: the things that happens in in season two of Bonding

830
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: is there's a scene, there's a breathplace scene in which

831
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: someone is in a sleep sack, which is, um, it's

832
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: like a sleeping bag that up and and so, and

833
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: he has a gas mask on and there's a hose

834
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: that goes from the gas mask to a bottle and

835
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: it's called a bubbler bottle. Bubbler a bubbler bottle, and

836
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: the bubbler bottle basically is like a bond where air

837
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: gets filtered through whatever fluid is in the bottle. Does

838
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: it look like this, Uh, that's what the sleep sat

839
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of looks like. But you should probably google like leather,

840
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: leather sleep sack. My first time seeing a sleep sack

841
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: was real sex when I was a kid. Yeah, oh wow,

842
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. This is this is the to

843
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: me that is pretty kinky. Yes, I'm not gonna lie.

844
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: So and I know we talked about breath page play

845
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: with pillow cases and a man putting his hand on

846
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: your neck, but this is an extensive yes, so what happened.

847
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: So what happens in the Bonding scene is there's so

848
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: he is in what's called full sensory deprivation. So he's listening,

849
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: he's listening to So sensory deprivation is when um, it's

850
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: the depriving of the senses. So you're blindfolded, it's a

851
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: form of sensory deprivation. If you have a garg in

852
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: your mouth, sensory deprivation. If you are you know, hooded

853
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: so that you can't hear your ears are plugged, that's

854
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: also century deprivation. UM. So so, and he can't move either,

855
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: so he's like fully mobilized in this sleep sack, and

856
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: his breath is being controlled by this bubbler bottle and

857
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: every breath gets filtered through the fluid that's in the

858
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: bubbler bottle. Do they do they before in it or

859
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: do they just? Good question? Does that come inside of um?

860
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it all depends on the

861
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: dam um. But but for many honestly, have you ever

862
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: done the flotation tanks? The but I never no, no, no, no,

863
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: it's like a therapy. Yeah, it's a it's a therapeutic thing.

864
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: So it's like you go, it's a it's basically like

865
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: a salt like a tub salt tubs. They casulate you

866
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: in it, right, and it's dark, yes, and so you float,

867
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: So it's weightlessness. So it's also kind of similar to

868
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: just like being in an in a hammock, and so

869
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, like the feeling of being in a hammock

870
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: when you're just sort of like your mom say no,

871
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: that's not it, no, no, no, oh my god. Like

872
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: if you look up flotation flotation tankanklation tank, yeah, you

873
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: guys can see they but if you want to embarrass me,

874
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: I wass we are looking at it. Ranging The flotation

875
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: tank is a spa thing. It's you know, like you

876
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: go and there's like a place when flat iron that

877
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: there it is and so and so you float and

878
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: so it's the same thing. So it's like it's weightlessness

879
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: and it's very very meditative, so it can be very relaxing.

880
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: And so how I often say, like for people who

881
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: do that kind of sensory deprivation, um, you know, a

882
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: mobilization bondage, it is you can it's almost like taking

883
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: the best three hour nap. Like in thirty minutes you

884
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: will have the best three hour nap you've ever had,

885
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: and you'll come out like not feeling groggy, like oh

886
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: my gosh, I've just been sleeping all day, but instead

887
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: you feel refreshed, you feel and the reason and really

888
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: so it's like I could yeah, so you know, so

889
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, well you can be in the in the

890
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: b D s M version with your wig might be floating, right,

891
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: I have bobby pins to lay it now. But the

892
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: reason why, but the reason why it works is just

893
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: like you know, when you meditate, and you like you

894
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: try to meditate and you're just like, oh, you know,

895
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: when your brain just won't stop, well part of it,

896
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh my gosh, I gotta it's

897
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: my nose, I gotta like, you know, I gotta move,

898
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: I gotta whatever. When you can't move, when you can't

899
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: scratch because you're held in place, then your brain just

900
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: like it tries to tell you to do things and

901
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: then it's not getting any response from you. So it's

902
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: just like, okay, well clearly you don't need me, and

903
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: your brain just goes and and it's you trip basically

904
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: it is because it's less oxygen. No you get you

905
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: get you get all your oxygen. But it's just like

906
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, it's it's like floatation tank, right, and even

907
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: in the flotation tank and think I do want to

908
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: talk about the tube. You can, but I'm saying, just

909
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: like in any kind of whether you're in the flotation

910
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: tank or if you're in this, you don't get pardon,

911
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: you don't get you're telling you you don't get less

912
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: oxygen when you're well with the tube. It's compromised. It's

913
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: it's a little bit less. You're sipping through a straw.

914
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: My fucking mouth is huge. We know mouth beither did

915
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: you say you're a mouth breather? You should see me

916
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: in a mask. It's terrible. Yeah, I didn't want to

917
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: make sure we haven't really uh, I think we we

918
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: We've been doing a lot of home confessions. I did

919
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: want to get back to our homail because okay, good,

920
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I think that you would really have And you know,

921
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's even shady, so let me

922
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: not because it is. It is for the old holes.

923
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: But I'm I told you I remember thirties, not feel

924
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: like I'm an old ho what I know? She gets

925
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: something like, no, bitch, thirty is not old shown up

926
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: but even it was crazy And we just did a

927
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Patreon episode too, and she crying about turning thirty. He's

928
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: like our old are older listeners hate us talking about thirty?

929
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we've had a lot of like I

930
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: think a larger demographic than I've noticed was late thirties

931
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: for Horrible to have their first thing to say, you

932
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: reacting like you old bitch? Maybe check? So this one

933
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: uh comes again. If you guys want to submit a

934
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: homemail to us, please please please send it on over

935
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: to Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com. This one is.

936
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: The subject line reads old hoes? Uh, Hey, guys, I

937
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: love your show. I love the sexual freedom that you

938
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: guys displayed without the guilt. I have a question and

939
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: maybe y'all can answer it. Where do old hoes go

940
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: when they're not fucking for cat anymore? I mean, they're

941
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: in the sex service industry and there comes a point

942
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: where they hang up the cleats. Where do they go?

943
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: Do they turn into garden gnomes? It's not a new

944
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: industry and these jobs have been around probably since the

945
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: beginning of time. But where do they go? Is there

946
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: an old ho home retirement computer community for hose? Help

947
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: me out? Thanks? Um? And I'm not going to say

948
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: the name real estate look okay? Yeah? But also, why

949
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: do you have to retire. I like that because remember

950
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: that I don't I don't know. There was this vible

951
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: video that went around recently where some woman an old

952
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: woman like me. It's getting ridiculous at the time. And

953
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to talk about this too,

954
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: because um, you said that you've even just been in

955
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: this space for as long as you've been in But

956
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, even we talk about strippers, there is

957
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: an idea that you can't do this forever. I can't

958
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: sunk forever. Of course I can funk for exactly So yeah,

959
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: I guess as you age, I do want to know

960
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: does it change, because of course our minds have changed

961
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: even with this show as far as how we view sex,

962
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: but we think of sex our partners. How have you

963
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: seen your mind change over time? And if someone came

964
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: to you and wanted to maybe be a dominatrix or

965
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: wanted help to get into the b DS some community,

966
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: would you ever be like you too old or that

967
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: that's not a conversation, right, Never feel like they're too

968
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: old to answer. I mean as long as everything, as

969
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: long as you have feeling like yeah, then you might

970
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: feel your too old, but you were not too old.

971
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean I remember I met there was this one um,

972
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: there was this one dom that I met, even um

973
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: who was in France, who she was in her late

974
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: seventies and working, and um. And in fact, there was

975
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: a dom in New Jersey named Mistress Mere who is

976
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: is this legendary black dom like she was the Black

977
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Leather Dom queen for years like this, The New York

978
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: scene revolved around her, Mr smear And and she was

979
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: dombing well into her seventies as well. I don't know now,

980
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Imagine if you went to the

981
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: grave like no, I didn't switch up. But I love

982
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: too because even in and and this will probably be

983
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: my last reference to it, because I know if you

984
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: guys haven't seen it yet or you have, you know,

985
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: I love too that the lead in Bonding was like

986
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: fuck masters, getting you know, a degree. I love what

987
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I make a lot of money. Why would

988
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: I quit? I think there is still just this idea

989
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: that this isn't real, even though there's so many people

990
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: that are like ms be nasty bro just her house

991
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: like that, the things that you buy, and I think

992
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: it's societally we should expect that we need to slow

993
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: down gonna stop doing something. I was literally talking to

994
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: an act actress today who was in her mid seventies,

995
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: late seventies, and she has a younger partner, and she

996
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: was telling me about Emmy winn Emmy Winning, and she

997
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: was telling me about the scene that she did, you know,

998
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: for the show that she wanted an Emmy four. She

999
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: said she was fifty seven years old when she did

1000
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: the scene, and it was something about where she was

1001
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: saying to this young man who worked who worked for her,

1002
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: and I guess, I don't know, there was some sort

1003
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: of thing like where he was suing her or something

1004
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't note, but whatever it was, She's just like,

1005
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: I could give you an erection from all the way

1006
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: across on the other side of the room and I

1007
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: don't even have to touch you. And the way that

1008
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: she said it and did it because she goes like,

1009
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, I could give you an erection from all

1010
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: the way across the room and I don't have to

1011
00:55:53,239 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: touch you. Stand up, Eric, and I almost stood up, like, actually, America, right,

1012
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: the power the doms have, well, it's like it literally

1013
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: is a fucking mental funk. Like even when you get

1014
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: into you're like this is you know, like your role.

1015
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: But I'd be like, because you're so you know, you're

1016
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: just so nice, and you know, I think that's the

1017
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: best thing too, about meeting sex workers and or doms

1018
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: or anyone who's just in the industry of them. Huh,

1019
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: I didn't really think you would do this right. It's

1020
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: like knowing that it's not the person you think it'll

1021
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: look like, and or the expectation that we have of

1022
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: some that job on YouTube. Y'all have to start even

1023
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: just looking at the guests that we come because people

1024
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: like you never would like Jasmine and King, I mean,

1025
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean they look like they do. Sorry when they

1026
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: picked the kids up from school, they don't, but probably

1027
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: know they look theyfense not saying you don't look like sex.

1028
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: I just think that they can't even help it. Yeah, no,

1029
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: we just said I can't even imagine that man and

1030
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: it's her. They were destined for sex. But like we

1031
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: just had Tiana on the show, and we've had just

1032
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: so many people that when they come in, yeah, when

1033
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: they open their mouths of course. And it's so weird

1034
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: too that this idea of sex is almost like, oh,

1035
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: you have to look flutty or you have to be

1036
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: this and again, this is something that we're going to

1037
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: do until we die. We're all gonna have sex. So

1038
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: even the idea that people do put this end date

1039
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: on when someone should stop having sex or dating around,

1040
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's suck. Also, I think the

1041
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: freakiest people are the ones that you would not even

1042
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: expect it that part, y'all wouldn't expect me to be freaky, right,

1043
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: don't still? Please let the people know where they can

1044
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: find you, because what no, no, I could you gotta

1045
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: kingno our Jasmine, Bob and don't be over there ain't

1046
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: nobody has this? Okay, okay, now is there a do

1047
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: you have anything that you are I wouldn't even say selling,

1048
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: but a place you'd want people to find you or

1049
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: engaged with you. Well, so a couple of things. So

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Speaker 1: I have Olivia Troy dot com, which is just my website.

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Speaker 1: So I'm an intimacy coordinator and a writer and a

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Speaker 1: consulting consultant UM. So that is one of the things.

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Speaker 1: But then the other thing is that I also have

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Speaker 1: started UM a consultant group called reps on Set, and

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: reps on Set is all about UM advocating for better

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Speaker 1: representation of marginalized and underrepresentative guys. We just got a

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Speaker 1: new job, We just got hired. We didn't even know

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Speaker 1: until she just said that she had this agency. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for allowing to be a part of that. Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you whenever like no bullshit? Like I for

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Speaker 1: this entire season. I'm working with a great network who

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00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: was honoring me to hire who I want. But like,

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Speaker 1: literally yesterday on our horrible decisions for you, they said,

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Speaker 1: I need someone who's a p A that's worked in

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: film and TV that's black or brown. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: had to do it on sucking Instagram, Like there's really

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Speaker 1: not an arena, like people think that I do this

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: ship and it's crazy. I was like, I need a

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Speaker 1: DP who's black and brown, and people right me like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm white, but I didn't ask for you. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that white people aren't great at what they do.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. It's just that I'm seen in

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Speaker 1: a million times, and um, I just dope to know

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Speaker 1: that you've have something so right? So it is it

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00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: is for both crew as well as for the stories

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Speaker 1: that are being told. How often have you look all right?

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Speaker 1: So we all I told you that's the old thing.

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: So like, how many times have you seen lesbian sex

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Speaker 1: on a show? And so like that's not how I'm

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: going to do it a lot, right, So what reps

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Speaker 1: on Set is here to do is one to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the depiction of lgbt Q i A plus

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Speaker 1: sex is authentic, that black sex, black love. First off,

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Speaker 1: that's the only one white people in any movie looks awful.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how white people bro it just be looking.

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Speaker 1: And then he kind of like white people don't have

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: no stroke game, Like I'll be on some stroke the

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01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: game what white even? I'm sorry, fifty shades are great.

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Speaker 1: My pussy just didn't even moisten. I'm gonna tell you

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: right now, who did that love by Gaspar? No, that

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: was lit assex? They were all white. Maybe Karl Gooseman

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: is half black, but Joe Kravitz sex. But that movie fuck?

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: They like, Oh it was good? Yea if I never

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: watched it. The y'all know a film where there is

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: white sex depicted in a way that is sexy, please

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Speaker 1: let me know, send them away. I'm sorry, I ain't things.

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Speaker 1: I ain't never seen it. Bro was it sexy? Yeah,

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01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm actually trying to think of it myself.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, but it's I gotta be some good

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Speaker 1: white dick out. You had them, but they wasn't on TV,

1101
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I'm fighting for y'all. Like hold on,

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Speaker 1: what about um scandal? Oh you're talking about it because

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Speaker 1: Carrie's in it, you know what I'm saying, Like, so

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: he never fucked Melly. It's like Black Eyed Peas. He

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: made everybody else look like it was on you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you can't add a P you

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Speaker 1: can't all right, okay, and what is that website where?

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Speaker 1: So it's so that is reps on set, REPS one.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure all of that is in the

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Speaker 1: description of this episode. Troy, Thank you so very much.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you came. Oh that's right. If you're enjoying

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Speaker 1: the YouTube and you want to let YouTube, come visit

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Speaker 1: me at w TF Media Studios. Eding is doing our

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Speaker 1: video and our clips that you guys, and he ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna talk and judge you like he does us. I

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Speaker 1: don't worry, alright, but you can't pay for a b

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Speaker 1: mike if you want to produce it during the show

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: to pull up ship and like clips and you know references.

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Speaker 1: We also have that as an add on and yeah,

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Speaker 1: ck us out w TFT students and I could do

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Speaker 1: it too, and she cannot. Uh, she's still learning. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And as you guys know, we release three bonus episodes

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Speaker 1: every month for you if you are a patreon uh

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Speaker 1: patron on Patreon, So go on over to patreon dot

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Speaker 1: com back slash Horrible Decisions for a little as five

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Speaker 1: dollars of a month. Not only are you supporting us,

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: but you're supporting getting more content. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Not really, you're kind of sort of Yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: it all, love it. We gotta pay this motherfucker, so

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Speaker 1: I love it all. I love it. So you guys

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Speaker 1: are about to hear a five minute bonus clip from

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Speaker 1: one of our bonus episodes, Troy, we want to thank

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01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: you once again for coming on. Hope you guys enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: and if you haven't seen it yet, go ahead and

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: check out Bonding season two on Netflix, UM and Billions.

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01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm still on season one, trying to get through. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those where you actually gotta pay attention, and

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be paying attention to ship, but some dick

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: pay attention to that. Well, I'm sorry. Alright, guys, this

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Speaker 1: has been yet another episode of Ford Decisions by But

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. We've been seeing the hash tag Free

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Speaker 1: Brittany for a long time, the conspiracy theory that Brittany

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Speaker 1: was under mind control and all kinds of ship were

1144
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Speaker 1: coming out. But really what it was was about something

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Speaker 1: called a conservatorship, which basically means back in the way,

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: her father m had a complete control over her assets

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Speaker 1: and her business affairs. UM. Now UM, basically there was

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Speaker 1: a median between um them, which was another lawyer who

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Speaker 1: resigned from that role two years ago, and then it

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Speaker 1: was her father just being the sole conservator. And at

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01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: that time we started to see Brittany put up weird videos,

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01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: her residency in Vegas stopped, like things just kind of

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: diminished from there. And we've known for quite some time

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Speaker 1: that something's been up with Brittany, but we really don't

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Speaker 1: know what. So the documentary gets into what conservatorship is

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Speaker 1: and basically how Brittany has been used and abused through friends, family,

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Speaker 1: and under the public eye with all this scrutiny. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get digging into a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: But as always in the cinema, we talked about a

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Speaker 1: celebrity would want to fun and I thought this one

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Speaker 1: made sense because we could pick a boy band or

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Speaker 1: a girl group from that time. Obviously Beyonce, but like,

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Speaker 1: who would you oh from that time? It's so crazy

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Speaker 1: because you gotta go white, Mandy. You can't go like yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah. But what's crazy that I just talked about

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Speaker 1: this too? Yeah no, right, Uh? The fact that I'm

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Speaker 1: now looking at this man from an adult lens, The

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Speaker 1: idea that I really took down all of my posters

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Speaker 1: because Justin and Brittany started dating, and I did think

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Speaker 1: that just supposed to be somebody for me. If okay,

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Speaker 1: if I go back to boy bands, I would say

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Speaker 1: even as far as the partner we got to see

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Speaker 1: him as on TV, And if I have to go

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Speaker 1: white and the pink dick route, I'm gonna say Nick

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Speaker 1: lash Wow used to be with Jessica Simpson and he

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Speaker 1: was a part of the boy band what was it,

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Speaker 1: Degrees Degrees stuff like that. He was cube, but I

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: just thought he was masculine and he always like just

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: giggled it dumb as Jessica Simpson, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's just something about him. If I had to go white,

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Speaker 1: that's where I would go. What about you? Mine was

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Speaker 1: Nick Carter, only because oh I loved the back Street

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Speaker 1: Boys so much, and I saw him at a rest

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Speaker 1: stop with my mom and I almost I couldn't speak,

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: and then I was like so frozen, and then we

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Speaker 1: got in the car. I wanted a picture with him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I got his autograph because that was cool at

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Speaker 1: the time. And then we got in the car. My

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Speaker 1: mom was like, damn, we could have taken a picture

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Speaker 1: with the disposable cameras they sold, and I was crying, bitch.

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Speaker 1: I was like, why, you know what's crazy? Even when

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Speaker 1: I look back at it, even when I look at

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Speaker 1: their old videos, for whatever reason, Backstreet Boys to me

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Speaker 1: always just seemed so old. They just looked old. I

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Speaker 1: felt like they never looked young because the too of

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Speaker 1: the three of them, and I mean fucking a j

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Speaker 1: always looked old. And then you had the how we

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Speaker 1: how we always looked thirty plus. So I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: it was how we had the little the Brown and

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Speaker 1: then even Brian, Brian was the lead singer. Brian never

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Speaker 1: really looked young. He actually really did look like a werewolf,

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Speaker 1: even in that fucking video. It made every sense for

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Speaker 1: him to be Why don't we like rock now Spice

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Speaker 1: girls them, but that was a whole girl group. I

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Speaker 1: loved him all I love this is This is how

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Speaker 1: I knew that as women we were ever changing. Because

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Speaker 1: the Spice Girl, in which I wanted to be, changed

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Speaker 1: almost every year that I was a fan of theirs.

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Speaker 1: I went from wanting to be baby Spice didn't realize, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this isn't me, sporty Spice bitch. I played basketball. I'm

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Speaker 1: sporty Spice. Then it was like, no, scary, that's who

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Speaker 1: I look more like, and I'm not like any of

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Speaker 1: these white bitches. But then also Ginger was just sexy.

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Speaker 1: I never I never thought I looked like Posh, which

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Speaker 1: is crazy because we have this show now about sex

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Speaker 1: and she was supposed to use sex appeal. Posh to

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Speaker 1: me never had a personality, never spoke, I never cared

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Speaker 1: to be poshed. I think that was the point with her.

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Speaker 1: That was at the point. Yeah, they like I watched

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Speaker 1: Spice World, that was one of my favorite movies to

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Speaker 1: play over, and I think they wanted her to come

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Speaker 1: off like that, which, like, I guess it's just not

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Speaker 1: us because I think we're just so vocal, even though

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Speaker 1: we we use sex. Sometimes I just felt like to me,

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Speaker 1: she was nothing but arm candy, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: you have no personality. I loved her. I just loved

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Speaker 1: she is. But I will say my favorite was Um

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Speaker 1: Scary Spice and Baby Spice Um. I think the baby

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Speaker 1: girl that we just identified with femininity in a way

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Speaker 1: with her. But like, that was my first concert I

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Speaker 1: ever went to. I lived in Miami with my mom,

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Speaker 1: and my mom was late as fun and we missed

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Speaker 1: like half the show, and I remember, wait, you got

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: to go? I wish. I'm not gonna lie. If they

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Speaker 1: were to go back on tour, I would definitely buy

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Speaker 1: a Spice Girls ticket. My very first concert. And if

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Speaker 1: we're talking about this era that we lived, it came

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Speaker 1: a little later than than Spice Girls and in Sac

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Speaker 1: and Backstreet Boys. But my very first concert, my mom

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: drove me to Tampa UM and I got really really

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Speaker 1: good tickets at UM Screen tour. It was Bow Wow

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Speaker 1: B two K, I am x Um and I think

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Speaker 1: Mario or maybe Lloyd, but it was that era, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was amazing. I had a great time and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then the Unleashed Tour was second. I went to

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Speaker 1: the Unleashed Tour at UCF. I was back to the

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: UCF one. I remember that I was a huge bow

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: Wow fan, like bow Wow was supposed to take my virginity.

1249
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: And I now he's not watched What was the movie?

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Speaker 1: Not Step? What's what? The fuck you guys served? When

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01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: I wanted you guys served. I want to funk all

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: of him. I was like, I think, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: a home