WEBVTT - Honoring and Remembering My Tia Sonia

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome. It is Verdict was center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>with you and today is a really special episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Verdict with Ted Cruz and Senaera. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>take it from there, but we're taking a little pause

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<v Speaker 1>from politics and talking about someone very near and dear

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. On Sunday, January twenty fifth, my aunt, my Theo

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<v Speaker 2>so Sonia went to be with the Lord. She and

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<v Speaker 2>I were incredibly close. Might the As Sonia was my

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<v Speaker 2>father's younger sister. My dad, as you know, fought in

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<v Speaker 2>the Cuban Revolution. He was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba

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<v Speaker 2>by Batistas thugs. My Thea Sonya, it was younger than

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and so she was there after the revolution succeeded.

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<v Speaker 2>She fought in the counter revolution and she was imprisoned

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<v Speaker 2>and tortured by Castro's thugs. And she's someone who who

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up very close to. I called her my

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<v Speaker 2>Thea Loka, my crazy aunt. She is fiery, she loved liberty,

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<v Speaker 2>she loved America. She she has been ill for the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of months. It was not a surprise when

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<v Speaker 2>she finally went. Uh. My cousin Bibe, who who is

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<v Speaker 2>my theos Sonya's only daughter has been caring for her,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and it and she passed Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 2>in in Bebe's living room with with her family around her,

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by family that that loved her, that was praying

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<v Speaker 2>for her. And she's gone to be with the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>And so our family is grieving because Theos Onya was

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<v Speaker 2>a larger than life personality. She had an unbelievable heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh she would she would help anyone she she she

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<v Speaker 2>was extraordinary and and she was someone who before she

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<v Speaker 2>fell ill, we had my Thea Sonya as a guest

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<v Speaker 2>on Verdict. I wanted her to come on Verdict and

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<v Speaker 2>and tell her story, tell her story growing up in Cuba,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the Communist revolution, seeing Fidel Castro rise to power,

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<v Speaker 2>and then fighting in the counter revolution, being in a

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban jail, being tortured in Cuba, coming to America with nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so in honor of my Thea Locao, whom I

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<v Speaker 2>loved with with all of my heart, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give you the interview we did with my Thea Sonia,

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<v Speaker 2>an extraordinary warrior for liberty.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz, we are joined

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<v Speaker 3>as ever by the senator and also by the senators Tia,

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<v Speaker 3>Sonia is my Spanish is not very good, But I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was about right, An Sonia, that is thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is in a few days going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eighth anniversary of your fleeing the communist regime in Cuba,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet we've got the leader of the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 3>nomination process is praising the Fidel Castro regime. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we have the clip very.

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<v Speaker 4>Opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>when Fidel Cashtro came into office, you know what he did.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Bernie has spent his entire life, his entire career,

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<v Speaker 2>praising communist dictators. But this week his latest ode to

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<v Speaker 2>Fidel Castro, frankly just pissed me off. It And this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a joke. This guy is the front runner

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<v Speaker 2>for the Democratic nomination to be president and he sings

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<v Speaker 2>the praises of Castro and Cuban communism. My dad fled

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban fifty seven. My Theosonia was still there. She was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, and so she saw the Cuban Revolution firsthand,

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<v Speaker 2>and she ended up fighting against Castro Sothia. If you would,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to, first of all, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like to be in Cuba when when

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<v Speaker 2>the revolution happened, when Castro took over.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually he was he was.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people were happy because finally somebody was

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<v Speaker 5>coming in that was praising We're gonna give you a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to change hope, We're gonna change things around. Everybody

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<v Speaker 5>was gonna have whatever they want to. The poor will

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<v Speaker 5>never be poor, the rich continue to have money, and

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<v Speaker 5>everybody will be the same. In reality, yes, everybody went

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<v Speaker 5>the same, but everybody was poor. Everybody went down. Everybody

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<v Speaker 5>got paid the same amount of money. There was no

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<v Speaker 5>different between the poor and the rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody everyone was poor and suffering and miserable.

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<v Speaker 5>And everybody was miserable. Everybody was miserable. What Bernie is

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<v Speaker 5>saying is a bunch of garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're there, you're you're a teenager. How old were you?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably sixteen fifteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're seeing this. You're a teenage girl. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you see what's happening. You see Castro begin executing people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, people, nobody could talk. Nobody could say anything. They

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<v Speaker 5>actually he trained the people to even be against the family,

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<v Speaker 5>the sons against the father, the daughters acind the family.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did he do that by in doctrinate.

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<v Speaker 5>In these people by telling we're going to give you

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<v Speaker 5>this and that and the other, and it's all going

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<v Speaker 5>to be free. But you got to tell us what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on in your house? Who talk against the government.

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<v Speaker 5>So everything was persecuting one another, especially the older people

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<v Speaker 5>that actually, we live a good life before in Cuba

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<v Speaker 5>it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>What do people face in terms of their friends and

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors and families spying on them?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have people in each blog there is somebody

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<v Speaker 5>that is responsible to keep an eye on you in

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<v Speaker 5>your house.

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<v Speaker 3>So's there's an individual spy, a spy and every block.

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<v Speaker 5>And they tell you you keep an eye on every

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<v Speaker 5>neighbor of this blog.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are they watching for?

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<v Speaker 5>They're watching for everything. If you bring anything you maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going from the United States to Cuba, and they

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<v Speaker 5>there's somebody coming in, so we need to wash the

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<v Speaker 5>house in case they go out and sell in the

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<v Speaker 5>black market or they do something with what you brought in.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's somebody's always keeping an iron you and try

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<v Speaker 5>to report you a good a good thing that happened

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<v Speaker 5>to something that happened to me that is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the trips that I went back to Cuba,

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to take the kids, some of the kids

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<v Speaker 5>from there, to go fishing. I love fishing. So I

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<v Speaker 5>went in and try to rent a boat, and they

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<v Speaker 5>told me we can't. We don't rain boats to Cuban people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, you may leave. And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I have a passport, I have a fly leaving variety

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<v Speaker 5>already left, so I'm coming in to take my family

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<v Speaker 5>on a boat ride. We can't give it to you.

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<v Speaker 5>We can't rent you a boat. You're you're Cuban.

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<v Speaker 2>So because there's so if you go there you can

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<v Speaker 2>you can. She can't rent a boat because even though

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<v Speaker 2>she's an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, yes, you're Cuban, so you can't do that. There

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<v Speaker 5>was a boat in the reaver that my niece wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to go in. And when we're get in to ride

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<v Speaker 5>the boat with the rest of the people, who said

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<v Speaker 5>you all cannot get in. You all like Cuban, And

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<v Speaker 5>I said, but we're paying with the same money that

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<v Speaker 5>they're paying well, I'm sorry, you can't come in. You're

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<v Speaker 5>not from another country. You're Cuban, and Cuban people are

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<v Speaker 5>not allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>Sonya, how quickly after as you say, you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>liked castro initially? He they he was promising them in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. How quickly did it turn? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 3>quickly did it turn?

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<v Speaker 5>Right away?

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<v Speaker 2>Right away?

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<v Speaker 5>He immediately starts saying the policies that he wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 5>He was going to take tens away from the ridge.

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<v Speaker 5>He was going to take tens away from the people

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<v Speaker 5>to give to others. He was to actually take money

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<v Speaker 5>from you and give it to the poors on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side. I make my money. I worked for what

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<v Speaker 5>I half. My father worked hard to be where he was.

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<v Speaker 5>My mother was the greatest school teacher. She was really

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<v Speaker 5>was proud of what she was doing. My mother itself

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<v Speaker 5>was told did she have to teach at the school

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<v Speaker 5>a different kind of curriculum. She was told she needed

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<v Speaker 5>to teach about the revolution cassed through the regime, the

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<v Speaker 5>things that needed to happen. My mother had to actually

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<v Speaker 5>pretend that she was losing her mind and she was

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<v Speaker 5>missing immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me underscore this story and listen. I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up hearing this story as a kid. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>would sit with my cousin, Bibe, Sonia's daughter. The two

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<v Speaker 2>of us would sit literally on the floor in the

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<v Speaker 2>living room and listen to my dad and my Theosonia

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<v Speaker 2>tell us stories about the revolution of Myabuela and Auela.

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<v Speaker 2>Their parents were there also, so my grandmother, Miguela, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a sixth grade teacher. Castro takes over and she's ordered,

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<v Speaker 2>you must teach Communism to the kids. You must indoctrinate,

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<v Speaker 2>you must brainwash the kids. And my grandmother said she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to do it. And so it's funny my

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<v Speaker 2>Theasonia mentioned something just very mild, but my grandmother pretended

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<v Speaker 2>she was insane in the classroom. She began literally foaming

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<v Speaker 2>at the mouth and pretending she was insane. Why because

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<v Speaker 2>she couldn't quit in the Communist she wasn't allowed to quit.

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<v Speaker 2>And she made the decision she would rather have the stigma,

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<v Speaker 2>have the shame of people thinking she was a crazy person, right,

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<v Speaker 2>then be a part of indoctrinating these kids.

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<v Speaker 5>That is true, and it was very painful because my

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<v Speaker 5>mother was a great teacher, It was loved by many people.

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<v Speaker 5>But she had to play crazy in order to get

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<v Speaker 5>out of that sea.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I want to know is how in Cuba

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<v Speaker 3>the public opinion changes very quickly. People see what a

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<v Speaker 3>monster Castro is and they start to hate his guts.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it that in the United States now so

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<v Speaker 3>many years on, fifty eight years on since you left left,

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<v Speaker 3>you have a presidential candidate, You get a US senator

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<v Speaker 3>who's still singing the praises of this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>What did he miss He had not been with the

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<v Speaker 5>human people. He only if you go there as a Cuban,

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<v Speaker 5>you go and see somebody a relative. If you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to see the miser that they live in. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what to put on the table to serve their kids,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't know how to get they're gonna get the

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<v Speaker 5>food that they're going to eat tomorrow. If you are

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<v Speaker 5>going as somebody from another country or as a tourist

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<v Speaker 5>you're taking to you are actually become prisoner of the government.

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<v Speaker 5>They take you where they want you to go. They

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<v Speaker 5>showed you the model school, they showed you the best hospitals,

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<v Speaker 5>they showed you the best restaurants.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty nine, Sandards stated, after visiting Cuba, quote

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<v Speaker 2>I did not see a hungry child. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>see any homeless people. Bernie said the Cuban people quote

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<v Speaker 2>had an almost religious affection for Castro.

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<v Speaker 5>That is not he is lying. He's lying to the

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<v Speaker 5>people of this country. He is playing on the mind

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<v Speaker 5>of the younger generation here.

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<v Speaker 2>He was either himself complicit in the lie, or he

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<v Speaker 2>was naive enough or ideological enough to let the Castro

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<v Speaker 2>regime lie to him and say, look at this, this paradise.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't take into what the Cuban people were. Cuban

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<v Speaker 5>people are starving to death. Cuban people don't have any

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<v Speaker 5>money to buy anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me take you back there, back to fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>back to sixty. The revolution succeeded, you begin fighting against Castro.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened to you as a result? What happened when

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<v Speaker 2>you started?

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<v Speaker 5>I was constantly persecuted. People was looking for me everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>They want to take me to prison. They picked me

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<v Speaker 5>up several times.

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<v Speaker 3>So you were pretty clearly fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>Against the totals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and this is after Castro has taken over,

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, dictate Yes. So what like when they picked

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<v Speaker 2>you up? What happened? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>They put you in a room and there was people

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<v Speaker 5>sitting on the floor and everybody's you know, that's where

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<v Speaker 5>you were, with a whole bunch of people in the floor,

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<v Speaker 5>and they keep it there for two or three days.

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<v Speaker 5>My parents did not know where I was. My mother

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<v Speaker 5>did not know, so she was going crazy trying to

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<v Speaker 5>find me. My friends, friends that I have could not

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<v Speaker 5>even come and find out with my parents where I

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<v Speaker 5>was I or what was wrong with me. They were

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<v Speaker 5>afraid because everybody was persecuted. So it was very difficult

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<v Speaker 5>to leave on the Castro regime.

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<v Speaker 2>When you left Cube it was sixty two. You left, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been back a bunch of times, right, yes? What if?

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<v Speaker 2>So when you come back you usually bring a duffel

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<v Speaker 2>bag with medicine, break.

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<v Speaker 5>Food, clothes, cheats.

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<v Speaker 3>Just for relatives, friends, friends, people.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so they can't get anything, nothing, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>She leaves a suitcase, she leaves every body, but she

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<v Speaker 2>leaves her underwear and brail because nobody has underwear there

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<v Speaker 2>because there's so much poverty. You'll wear like sweatpants, a

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt. That's what they wear, and that's on the

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<v Speaker 2>plane coming right. That is correct. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand what is the difference between socialism.

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<v Speaker 5>That is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Socialism is simply the economic system of communism. Socialism is

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<v Speaker 2>government ownership of the means of production or distribution. Cuba

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen fifties was the world's number one producer

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<v Speaker 2>of sugar. It had problems. Look, Batista was a corrupt dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a bastard. My father to this day doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have his front teeth because Batista's police kicked them in.

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<v Speaker 2>His guards kick his army officers kicked them in.

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<v Speaker 3>But what about the universal healthcare? I mean, we're told

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<v Speaker 3>by a lot of people in the United States, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of left wingers, they say Cuba has some of

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<v Speaker 3>the best healthcare in the world, and everybody's covered.

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<v Speaker 5>I can personally tell you that I went to the

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<v Speaker 5>doctor there because I have mosquito biys that it got

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<v Speaker 5>into effect infection, and they put a shot on me

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<v Speaker 5>in front of sixty other people that were there waiting

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<v Speaker 5>for to being seen by a doctor. There's no transportation,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no gas, so you can't move. Doctors come to

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<v Speaker 5>your house in a bicycle and they're hungry. They're hungry

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<v Speaker 5>when they get there. They come to the house to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Matter of fact, I was in a house visiting and

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<v Speaker 5>they were trying to see the little girl. He came

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<v Speaker 5>in a bicycle and I bought some things that there

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<v Speaker 5>was somebody in the streets selling, and he said, can

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<v Speaker 5>I have one.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the most visible sign that Cuba hasn't changed or

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't progressed is they have those old cars, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, people like to think that that's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of quaint and cute that they have cars from the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties. The reason they had cars from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifties is they can't get anything else. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The scary thing about all of this is you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the experience of it, eight years of experience since you

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<v Speaker 3>left Cuba. There are various studies that have come out

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<v Speaker 3>that show that even the majority of young Americans, millennials

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<v Speaker 3>and Gen z now embrace socialism and prefer it to capitalism. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the bright side, I will say, the silver lining, is

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<v Speaker 3>that a much smaller percentage can actually define socialism. So

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<v Speaker 3>there would seem to be a problem there. But beyond

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<v Speaker 3>just ignorance, beyond just not knowing what it is, what

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<v Speaker 3>is drawing young Americans to this evil, evil ideology is.

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<v Speaker 5>The work that they is given out the change. They

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<v Speaker 5>want to see something different, they want to try something new.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't work, guys, it does not work. All of

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<v Speaker 5>this ambition and given it, given it to me, there's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing given to you. You need to work and try

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<v Speaker 5>to achieve your dream by hard work, but by doing

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<v Speaker 5>what you want to get ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've noticed this with with your colleague Senator Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, he's been talking about this for

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<v Speaker 3>fifty years and no one listened. But now only you know,

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<v Speaker 3>now that he's in his mid seventies, it's catching on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I even think of this absent Bernie Sanders. Forget

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<v Speaker 3>about him for a second. It took a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>People knew that communism socialism were terrible for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>and now they don't know that well, and too often

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<v Speaker 3>they're not taught in schools what happened. You know, how

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<v Speaker 3>many Bernie supporters know that the Soviet Union killed twenty

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<v Speaker 3>million people and China killed seventy seven million people. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that, and so when Bernie defends it, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems look and I have to admit, I remember in

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<v Speaker 3>college a guy who lived down the hall for me

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<v Speaker 3>had a poster on the wall of Chaegovar and I

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<v Speaker 3>went in.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, that's really cool. That's all you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaegovar was a gorilla fought with Fidel Castro in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, hey, that's really cool, that's awesome. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you thought of maybe putting a poster of Hitler next year?

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe Stalin and Maw like, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate people that torture and murder. Actually, Chay was he

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<v Speaker 2>was low on the totem pole, but you know he

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<v Speaker 2>was good looking, he had stubble and he was you

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<v Speaker 2>know it. These villains have been glamorized. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we've talked a lot about the political and

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<v Speaker 3>the economic side of things, how the government takes all

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff and then they take power away from you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're both religious. I notice, Sonya, you have a cross

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<v Speaker 3>that you're wearing. Obviously, Senator Cruz, one of the big

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<v Speaker 3>aspects of communism as it's always been practiced is the

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<v Speaker 3>atheism of it all. And I wonder if there's a

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<v Speaker 3>relation here that, as religiosity in America has declined, as

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<v Speaker 3>young people are raised more or less without a religion,

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<v Speaker 3>if maybe that's playing some role in why communism is

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<v Speaker 3>catching on. You know, one of the great men of

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<v Speaker 3>the twentieth century to defeat communism was the Pope was

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<v Speaker 3>Pope John Paul second.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and and and Pope John Paul the second played

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<v Speaker 2>a profound role of going going to Poland, and and

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 2>and and and promising that Poland would be free and

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<v Speaker 2>speaking up and it was truly. I think divine providence, providence,

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<v Speaker 2>we want God and and and Reagan and Margaret Thatcher

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<v Speaker 2>all at the same time. And I think those three people,

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<v Speaker 2>more than any human beings on earth, defeated the Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Union and won the Cold War. Mind you, Bernie was

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<v Speaker 2>rooting for the Soviet Union during all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not even hiding at that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union. Michael Whorred, You honeymoon

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<v Speaker 2>honeymooned in Hawaii, USA. Okay, that's where, like normal people,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the beach, you go to how do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what to say, Thomas, It was beautiful. We

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<v Speaker 2>were walking along the beach. We had fun. What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of crazy ideologue says, sweetheart, I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do a honeymoon in the Soviet Union. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that club you played? He says, he's no friend of Putin.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one person I know on the national stage

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<v Speaker 2>that honeymoon in the Soviet Union. You know, the Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Union killed over twenty million people. This is not cute,

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 2>little faculty leftists. If Bernie was a professor at some

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<v Speaker 2>liberal arts college out in the Frozen tundra. Who cares

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<v Speaker 2>he's just corrupting a few young minds. This is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to be president of the United States, and

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<v Speaker 2>he kisses up to and apologizes for tutalitarian dictators.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know who.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't praise Americans, Like when have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>him speak as positively about Abraham Lincoln as he does

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<v Speaker 2>about Castro and Ortega and Mao and Stalinist and communism

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<v Speaker 2>also hates God. If you look at these communist regimes,

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<v Speaker 2>they persecute faith, They persecute they prevent people from the

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<v Speaker 2>beauty of the First Amendment is it gives everyone the

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<v Speaker 2>right to choose how to worship, what your faith will be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Bernie when he praised China in the debate

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<v Speaker 2>this week, somehow, when Bernie talked about it's great poverty eradication,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to go back to maw to find

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<v Speaker 2>the torture and murder right now today there are one

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<v Speaker 2>million Wigers, yeah, a religious and ethnic minority, one million

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<v Speaker 2>in concentration camps in China today. How why is Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>and why are left is so willing to praise and

0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>be proud of regimes that are torturing and murdering people.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think this is part of why they make

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<v Speaker 3>their appeal successfully though, Because the thing I noticed so

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<v Speaker 3>much about the socialists in America today is they're all

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<v Speaker 3>making these very moral arguments. It's about human rights. It's

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<v Speaker 3>about giving people their right to health care and their

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<v Speaker 3>right to have a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a story my grandmother told me. In the schools,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have Cuban soldiers come in, and this is kindergarten,

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<v Speaker 2>first grade, and they tell the children. They'd say, close

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<v Speaker 2>your eyes and pray to Jesus for a piece of candy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kids would all do it, and they'd open

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes and there'd be no candy. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers would say, close your eyes and pray to Fidel

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<v Speaker 2>Castro for a piece of candy. You're kidding me, And

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<v Speaker 2>the kids would close their eyes and the soldiers would

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<v Speaker 2>put candy on their desks, and they'd open their eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and there was candy. This is the literacy program Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders is praising. This is the indoctrination that Miabella refused

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<v Speaker 2>to participate in.

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<v Speaker 5>And that is true. They are actually inductrinating the people

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<v Speaker 5>since they were tiny little kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it work? It doesn't work as people work.

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<v Speaker 5>People, why don't they work? They don't work. Nobody want

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<v Speaker 5>to work in Cuba. Why do they want to work?

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna make the same money that you're making that

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<v Speaker 5>he's making. What do I want to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>But do they believe the theory? I mean, does the

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<v Speaker 3>indoctrination end up persuading?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, they thought that it was going to be reality.

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<v Speaker 5>They really blind them to believe what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 5>But they immediately took the blind off on saying, everybody's

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<v Speaker 5>in the same boat. We're all hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>They know they're hungry, they know they're poor, they know

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<v Speaker 2>they're miserable. They know that has him. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason people every day risk their lives to flee Cuba.

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<v Speaker 5>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Reagan in the height of the Cold War,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a great way of putting it. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing liberals never seemed to notice it is on

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<v Speaker 2>the Berlin Wall, the machine guns all point in one direction.

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<v Speaker 2>That you didn't get anyone from East Germany saying or

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<v Speaker 2>from West Germany saying I got to go live in

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>that communist paradise. The way I like to put it,

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<v Speaker 2>as a Cuban American is is the thing liberals never

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<v Speaker 2>notice is in Cuba the rafts all going one way.

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<v Speaker 2>Just once, I'd like to see Bernie Sanders go hop

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<v Speaker 2>on a raft in Key West. Yeah, and it hit nine.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, he's a socialized medicine. They have

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<v Speaker 2>it there. It's just you can't get you can't actually

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<v Speaker 2>see a doctor, you can't get medicine, you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>toilet paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to just pause what you're doing for

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<v Speaker 1>the next sixty seconds, and I want you to imagine Lucy,

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<v Speaker 1>a seven year old. Her stomach often aches with hunger,

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<v Speaker 1>her small hands instead of holding crayons. No, only the

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<v Speaker 1>struggle of survival on dusty streets. School is a distant dream,

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<v Speaker 1>medical care forgotten hope. Lucy's potential is overshadowed, her future

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<v Speaker 1>is dim. But what if someone stepped in? What if

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, you know, tying in all of these points

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<v Speaker 3>on the economic, on the political, and on the religious,

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<v Speaker 3>Communism has been called the God that failed, right. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a sort of substitute religion, a substitute god, and

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<v Speaker 3>it failed, and you saw it fail personally. What was

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<v Speaker 3>the what was the biggest shock? I mean, what was

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest despair, the biggest regret when when you saw

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<v Speaker 3>something that you had believed in fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the biggest it was seen the people suffering for

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<v Speaker 5>not being able to even get food to put on

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<v Speaker 5>the plate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so basic, the basic things.

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<v Speaker 5>That no, don't been able to work because why do

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<v Speaker 5>you want to work when you don't have anything to

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<v Speaker 5>buy with? You know that money disappear from you immediately,

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<v Speaker 5>and you all know the numbers, but you know, an

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<v Speaker 5>average person make thirty dollars a.

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<v Speaker 3>Month, thirty dollars per dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Per month, So what are you going to do with that?

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<v Speaker 5>So people are being drinking water? You see the kids,

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<v Speaker 5>they dink water with sugar to get their stomach full.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's that that basic need. It's so interesting that

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<v Speaker 3>you say that, because it's Communism starts at as this

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<v Speaker 3>idealistic fantasy, very high falutin, very high minded literacy programs,

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<v Speaker 3>all that, and then the reality of the failures. People

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<v Speaker 3>can't even fill their stomachs.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, although you know there is one exception,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the Communist Party rulers look Fidel Castro lived

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<v Speaker 2>like a billionaires and by the way, Putin lives like

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire. Maduro and Hugo Chavez before him, they lived

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<v Speaker 2>like billionaires. Right, Communism when you have all the power

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<v Speaker 2>at the top, and what does Bernie suggest it would

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<v Speaker 2>be any different if the government is in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>everything every place that has happened, the rulers live like

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<v Speaker 2>kings and everyone else's is miserable.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we did actually get one mail back question that

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<v Speaker 3>I think is very much on this topic, which is

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<v Speaker 3>with the Democratic Party veering so far to the left,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm embracing these absolutely disgusting positions hopefully will turn off

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<v Speaker 3>most of the American people. Should conservatives be happy? Should

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<v Speaker 3>conservatives be happy that the God that failed is about

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<v Speaker 3>to fail the Democratic Party. Not necessarily, you're not as

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<v Speaker 3>as complacent.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand people saying, Okay, great Bernie so extreme that

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<v Speaker 2>means Trump will get re elected. I hope Trump gets

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<v Speaker 2>re elected. I'm working hard to re elect the president.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen, what is truly terrified is I think the

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<v Speaker 2>American people could elect a wild eyed socialist the media.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a divided country. If one hundred thousand votes had

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<v Speaker 2>flipped in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton would be the president

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And Bernie, the media treats him kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like your crazy uncle. Oh he's just the crazy uncle,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that cute? He's praising, murdering, torturing communist dictators. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy believes this stuff in his heart and soul.

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<v Speaker 2>He believes it. His whole life has been dedicated to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to admit, I am it's all fine

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<v Speaker 2>and good to celebrate unless he ends up win. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>God helped the direction this country goes.

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<v Speaker 3>If that happened, well, because you already fled one communist

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<v Speaker 3>heell hole and this was the great hope as America.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the great there's no place to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you go there?

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<v Speaker 5>No place to center.

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<v Speaker 1>What an incredible story, and especially so timely with what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Cuba, in Venezuela and Iran, and just I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it inspires others. I hope people will share this.

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<v Speaker 1>Our thoughts and our prayers are with you and your family.

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<v Speaker 1>But what an amazing legacy that she has left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she has left an amazing legacy, including her daughter, Bibie,

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<v Speaker 2>who is extraordinary. She's like a sister to me, including me.

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<v Speaker 2>She impacted my life in a very profound way. I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you A couple of weeks ago, I went

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<v Speaker 2>up to see her. She lived in Dallas. I went

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<v Speaker 2>up to see her and brought Heidi and the girls,

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<v Speaker 2>and we saw her in the hospital and she was

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<v Speaker 2>not fully conscious. She was going in and out of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>But I told her. I told her that that we

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<v Speaker 2>got Maduro, and I told her Cuba is next, the

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban Communist regime is going to fall next. And even

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<v Speaker 2>kind of coming in and out of consciousness, she smiled

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest smile. And to have a chance to tell

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<v Speaker 2>her that and for her to hear that before she

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<v Speaker 2>goes to be with the Lord. She is truly a

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<v Speaker 2>warrior for liberty, the Asagna. I love you,