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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict was center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: with you and today is a really special episode of

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Speaker 1: Verdict with Ted Cruz and Senaera. I want you to

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Speaker 1: take it from there, but we're taking a little pause

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Speaker 1: from politics and talking about someone very near and dear

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On Sunday, January twenty fifth, my aunt, my Theo

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Speaker 2: so Sonia went to be with the Lord. She and

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Speaker 2: I were incredibly close. Might the As Sonia was my

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Speaker 2: father's younger sister. My dad, as you know, fought in

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Speaker 2: the Cuban Revolution. He was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba

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Speaker 2: by Batistas thugs. My Thea Sonya, it was younger than

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Speaker 2: he is, and so she was there after the revolution succeeded.

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Speaker 2: She fought in the counter revolution and she was imprisoned

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Speaker 2: and tortured by Castro's thugs. And she's someone who who

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Speaker 2: I grew up very close to. I called her my

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Speaker 2: Thea Loka, my crazy aunt. She is fiery, she loved liberty,

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Speaker 2: she loved America. She she has been ill for the

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Speaker 2: last couple of months. It was not a surprise when

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Speaker 2: she finally went. Uh. My cousin Bibe, who who is

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Speaker 2: my theos Sonya's only daughter has been caring for her,

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Speaker 2: and and and and it and she passed Sunday morning

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Speaker 2: in in Bebe's living room with with her family around her,

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Speaker 2: surrounded by family that that loved her, that was praying

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Speaker 2: for her. And she's gone to be with the Lord.

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Speaker 2: And so our family is grieving because Theos Onya was

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Speaker 2: a larger than life personality. She had an unbelievable heart.

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Speaker 2: Uh she would she would help anyone she she she

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Speaker 2: was extraordinary and and she was someone who before she

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Speaker 2: fell ill, we had my Thea Sonya as a guest

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Speaker 2: on Verdict. I wanted her to come on Verdict and

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Speaker 2: and tell her story, tell her story growing up in Cuba,

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Speaker 2: seeing the Communist revolution, seeing Fidel Castro rise to power,

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Speaker 2: and then fighting in the counter revolution, being in a

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Speaker 2: Cuban jail, being tortured in Cuba, coming to America with nothing,

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Speaker 2: and so in honor of my Thea Locao, whom I

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Speaker 2: loved with with all of my heart, I want to

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Speaker 2: give you the interview we did with my Thea Sonia,

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary warrior for liberty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz, we are joined

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Speaker 3: as ever by the senator and also by the senators Tia,

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Speaker 3: Sonia is my Spanish is not very good, But I

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Speaker 3: think that was about right, An Sonia, that is thank you.

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Speaker 3: This is in a few days going to be the

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Speaker 3: fifty eighth anniversary of your fleeing the communist regime in Cuba,

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Speaker 3: and yet we've got the leader of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 3: nomination process is praising the Fidel Castro regime. I think

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Speaker 3: we have the clip very.

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Speaker 4: Opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba. But you know,

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Speaker 4: it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know,

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Speaker 4: when Fidel Cashtro came into office, you know what he did.

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Speaker 4: He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: Listen, Bernie has spent his entire life, his entire career,

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Speaker 2: praising communist dictators. But this week his latest ode to

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Speaker 2: Fidel Castro, frankly just pissed me off. It And this

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Speaker 2: is not a joke. This guy is the front runner

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Speaker 2: for the Democratic nomination to be president and he sings

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Speaker 2: the praises of Castro and Cuban communism. My dad fled

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Speaker 2: Cuban fifty seven. My Theosonia was still there. She was

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Speaker 2: a kid, and so she saw the Cuban Revolution firsthand,

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Speaker 2: and she ended up fighting against Castro Sothia. If you would,

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Speaker 2: I just want you to, first of all, tell me

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Speaker 2: what it was like to be in Cuba when when

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Speaker 2: the revolution happened, when Castro took over.

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Speaker 4: Actually he was he was.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people were happy because finally somebody was

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Speaker 5: coming in that was praising We're gonna give you a

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Speaker 5: chance to change hope, We're gonna change things around. Everybody

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Speaker 5: was gonna have whatever they want to. The poor will

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Speaker 5: never be poor, the rich continue to have money, and

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Speaker 5: everybody will be the same. In reality, yes, everybody went

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Speaker 5: the same, but everybody was poor. Everybody went down. Everybody

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Speaker 2: Everybody everyone was poor and suffering and miserable.

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Speaker 5: And everybody was miserable. Everybody was miserable. What Bernie is

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Speaker 5: saying is a bunch of garbage.

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Speaker 2: So you're there, you're you're a teenager. How old were you?

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Speaker 5: Probably sixteen fifteen?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're seeing this. You're a teenage girl. Right,

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Speaker 2: you see what's happening. You see Castro begin executing people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people, nobody could talk. Nobody could say anything. They

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Speaker 5: actually he trained the people to even be against the family,

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Speaker 5: the sons against the father, the daughters acind the family.

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Speaker 2: So how did he do that by in doctrinate.

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Speaker 5: In these people by telling we're going to give you

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Speaker 5: this and that and the other, and it's all going

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Speaker 5: to be free. But you got to tell us what's

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Speaker 5: going on in your house? Who talk against the government.

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Speaker 5: So everything was persecuting one another, especially the older people

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Speaker 5: that actually, we live a good life before in Cuba

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Speaker 5: it was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What do people face in terms of their friends and

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Speaker 2: neighbors and families spying on them?

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Speaker 5: Do you have people in each blog there is somebody

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Speaker 5: that is responsible to keep an eye on you in

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Speaker 3: So's there's an individual spy, a spy and every block.

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Speaker 5: And they tell you you keep an eye on every

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Speaker 5: neighbor of this blog.

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Speaker 2: So what are they watching for?

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Speaker 5: They're watching for everything. If you bring anything you maybe

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Speaker 5: I'm going from the United States to Cuba, and they

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Speaker 5: there's somebody coming in, so we need to wash the

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Speaker 5: house in case they go out and sell in the

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Speaker 5: black market or they do something with what you brought in.

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Speaker 5: So there's somebody's always keeping an iron you and try

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Speaker 5: to report you a good a good thing that happened

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Speaker 5: to something that happened to me that is very interesting.

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Speaker 5: One of the trips that I went back to Cuba,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to take the kids, some of the kids

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Speaker 5: from there, to go fishing. I love fishing. So I

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Speaker 5: went in and try to rent a boat, and they

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Speaker 5: told me we can't. We don't rain boats to Cuban people.

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Speaker 5: And I said, you may leave. And I said, look,

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Speaker 5: I have a passport, I have a fly leaving variety

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Speaker 5: already left, so I'm coming in to take my family

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Speaker 5: on a boat ride. We can't give it to you.

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Speaker 5: We can't rent you a boat. You're you're Cuban.

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Speaker 2: So because there's so if you go there you can

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Speaker 2: you can. She can't rent a boat because even though

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Speaker 5: Now, yes, you're Cuban, so you can't do that. There

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Speaker 5: was a boat in the reaver that my niece wanted

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Speaker 5: to go in. And when we're get in to ride

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Speaker 5: the boat with the rest of the people, who said

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Speaker 5: you all cannot get in. You all like Cuban, And

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Speaker 5: I said, but we're paying with the same money that

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Speaker 5: they're paying well, I'm sorry, you can't come in. You're

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Speaker 5: not from another country. You're Cuban, and Cuban people are

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Speaker 3: They're not allowed to leave because they know what they

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Speaker 3: Sonya, how quickly after as you say, you know, people

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Speaker 3: liked castro initially? He they he was promising them in

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Speaker 3: the world. How quickly did it turn? I mean, how

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Speaker 5: Right away?

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Speaker 2: Right away?

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Speaker 5: He immediately starts saying the policies that he wanted to do.

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Speaker 5: He was going to take tens away from the ridge.

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Speaker 5: He was going to take tens away from the people

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Speaker 5: to give to others. He was to actually take money

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Speaker 5: other side. I make my money. I worked for what

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Speaker 5: I half. My father worked hard to be where he was.

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Speaker 5: My mother was the greatest school teacher. She was really

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Speaker 5: to teach about the revolution cassed through the regime, the

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Speaker 2: So let me underscore this story and listen. I grew

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Speaker 2: would sit with my cousin, Bibe, Sonia's daughter. The two

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Speaker 2: Their parents were there also, so my grandmother, Miguela, she's

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Speaker 2: you must brainwash the kids. And my grandmother said she

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Speaker 2: Theasonia mentioned something just very mild, but my grandmother pretended

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Speaker 2: she was insane in the classroom. She began literally foaming

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Speaker 2: And she made the decision she would rather have the stigma,

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Speaker 2: have the shame of people thinking she was a crazy person, right,

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Speaker 2: then be a part of indoctrinating these kids.

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Speaker 5: That is true, and it was very painful because my

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Speaker 5: But she had to play crazy in order to get

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Speaker 3: But what I want to know is how in Cuba

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Speaker 3: the public opinion changes very quickly. People see what a

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Speaker 3: How is it that in the United States now so

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Speaker 3: many years on, fifty eight years on since you left left,

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Speaker 5: What did he miss He had not been with the

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Speaker 5: Well, so they can't get anything, nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 2: Socialism is simply the economic system of communism. Socialism is

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Speaker 3: But what about the universal healthcare? I mean, we're told

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Speaker 3: Probably the most visible sign that Cuba hasn't changed or

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Speaker 2: And you know, people like to think that that's sort

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Speaker 3: The scary thing about all of this is you've got

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Speaker 5: The work that they is given out the change. They

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Speaker 5: It doesn't work, guys, it does not work. All of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've noticed this with with your colleague Senator Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, that's really cool. That's all you know.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've talked a lot about the political and

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Speaker 3: You're both religious. I notice, Sonya, you have a cross

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Speaker 2: Well and and and Pope John Paul the second played

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Speaker 3: Right, it's not even hiding at that much.

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Speaker 2: Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union. Michael Whorred, You honeymoon

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Speaker 2: honeymooned in Hawaii, USA. Okay, that's where, like normal people,

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Speaker 2: Let's do a honeymoon in the Soviet Union. You know

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Speaker 2: little faculty leftists. If Bernie was a professor at some

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Speaker 2: he's just corrupting a few young minds. This is someone

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Speaker 5: And you know who.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't praise Americans, Like when have you ever heard

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Speaker 2: You know, Bernie when he praised China in the debate

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Speaker 3: making these very moral arguments. It's about human rights. It's

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Speaker 2: There's a story my grandmother told me. In the schools,

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Speaker 3: Did it work? It doesn't work as people work.

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Speaker 5: People, why don't they work? They don't work. Nobody want

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Speaker 5: They're gonna make the same money that you're making that

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Speaker 3: indoctrination end up persuading?

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Speaker 5: Actually, they thought that it was going to be reality.

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Speaker 5: They really blind them to believe what they were saying.

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Speaker 5: But they immediately took the blind off on saying, everybody's

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Speaker 5: in the same boat. We're all hungry.

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Speaker 2: They know they're hungry, they know they're poor, they know

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Speaker 2: they're miserable. They know that has him. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a reason people every day risk their lives to flee Cuba.

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Speaker 5: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know Reagan in the height of the Cold War,

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Speaker 2: he had a great way of putting it. He said,

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Speaker 2: the thing liberals never seemed to notice it is on

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Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall, the machine guns all point in one direction.

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Speaker 2: That you didn't get anyone from East Germany saying or

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Speaker 2: from West Germany saying I got to go live in

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Speaker 2: that communist paradise. The way I like to put it,

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Speaker 2: as a Cuban American is is the thing liberals never

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Speaker 2: notice is in Cuba the rafts all going one way.

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Speaker 2: Just once, I'd like to see Bernie Sanders go hop

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Speaker 2: on a raft in Key West. Yeah, and it hit nine.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, he's a socialized medicine. They have

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Speaker 2: it there. It's just you can't get you can't actually

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Speaker 2: see a doctor, you can't get medicine, you can't get

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Speaker 2: toilet paper.

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Speaker 1: I want you to just pause what you're doing for

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Speaker 1: the next sixty seconds, and I want you to imagine Lucy,

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Speaker 1: a seven year old. Her stomach often aches with hunger,

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Speaker 1: her small hands instead of holding crayons. No, only the

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Speaker 1: struggle of survival on dusty streets. School is a distant dream,

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Speaker 1: medical care forgotten hope. Lucy's potential is overshadowed, her future

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Speaker 1: is dim. But what if someone stepped in? What if

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Speaker 1: there was a way to ignite hope for children just

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Speaker 1: like Lucy? Well there is, and that is with Compassion

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Speaker 1: International Partners and the local churches that provide children holistic

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Speaker 1: support more than just food. They receive critical medical care,

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Speaker 1: life changing education, vital skills training, and spiritual development, all

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Speaker 1: in Jesus's name. And you can empower a child just

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Speaker 1: like Lucy to break free from poverty. I want you

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Speaker 1: to do what I've done and sponsor a child today.

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Speaker 1: You can visit compassion dot com. That's compassion dot com.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, you know, tying in all of these points

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Speaker 3: on the economic, on the political, and on the religious,

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Speaker 3: Communism has been called the God that failed, right. It

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Speaker 3: was a sort of substitute religion, a substitute god, and

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Speaker 3: it failed, and you saw it fail personally. What was

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Speaker 3: the what was the biggest shock? I mean, what was

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Speaker 3: the biggest despair, the biggest regret when when you saw

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Speaker 3: something that you had believed in fail.

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Speaker 5: Well, the biggest it was seen the people suffering for

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Speaker 5: not being able to even get food to put on

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Speaker 5: the plate.

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Speaker 2: It's so basic, the basic things.

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Speaker 5: That no, don't been able to work because why do

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Speaker 5: you want to work when you don't have anything to

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Speaker 5: buy with? You know that money disappear from you immediately,

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Speaker 5: and you all know the numbers, but you know, an

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Speaker 5: average person make thirty dollars a.

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Speaker 3: Month, thirty dollars per dollars.

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Speaker 5: Per month, So what are you going to do with that?

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Speaker 5: So people are being drinking water? You see the kids,

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Speaker 5: they dink water with sugar to get their stomach full.

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Speaker 3: It's it's that that basic need. It's so interesting that

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Speaker 3: you say that, because it's Communism starts at as this

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Speaker 3: idealistic fantasy, very high falutin, very high minded literacy programs,

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Speaker 3: all that, and then the reality of the failures. People

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Speaker 3: can't even fill their stomachs.

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Speaker 2: That is true, although you know there is one exception,

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Speaker 2: which is the Communist Party rulers look Fidel Castro lived

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Speaker 2: like a billionaires and by the way, Putin lives like

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Speaker 2: a billionaire. Maduro and Hugo Chavez before him, they lived

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Speaker 2: like billionaires. Right, Communism when you have all the power

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Speaker 2: at the top, and what does Bernie suggest it would

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Speaker 2: be any different if the government is in charge of

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Speaker 2: everything every place that has happened, the rulers live like

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Speaker 2: kings and everyone else's is miserable.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, we did actually get one mail back question that

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Speaker 3: I think is very much on this topic, which is

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Speaker 3: with the Democratic Party veering so far to the left,

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Speaker 3: I'm embracing these absolutely disgusting positions hopefully will turn off

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Speaker 3: most of the American people. Should conservatives be happy? Should

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Speaker 3: conservatives be happy that the God that failed is about

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Speaker 3: to fail the Democratic Party. Not necessarily, you're not as

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Speaker 3: as complacent.

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Speaker 2: I understand people saying, Okay, great Bernie so extreme that

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Speaker 2: means Trump will get re elected. I hope Trump gets

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Speaker 2: re elected. I'm working hard to re elect the president.

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Speaker 2: But listen, what is truly terrified is I think the

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Speaker 2: American people could elect a wild eyed socialist the media.

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Speaker 2: We're a divided country. If one hundred thousand votes had

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Speaker 2: flipped in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton would be the president

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Speaker 2: right now. And Bernie, the media treats him kind of

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Speaker 2: like your crazy uncle. Oh he's just the crazy uncle,

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Speaker 2: isn't that cute? He's praising, murdering, torturing communist dictators. Well,

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Speaker 2: this guy believes this stuff in his heart and soul.

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Speaker 2: He believes it. His whole life has been dedicated to it.

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Speaker 2: And I got to admit, I am it's all fine

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Speaker 2: and good to celebrate unless he ends up win. Oh,

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Speaker 2: God helped the direction this country goes.

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Speaker 3: If that happened, well, because you already fled one communist

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Speaker 3: heell hole and this was the great hope as America.

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Speaker 5: Is the great there's no place to go.

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Speaker 3: Where do you go there?

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Speaker 5: No place to center.

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Speaker 1: What an incredible story, and especially so timely with what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Cuba, in Venezuela and Iran, and just I

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Speaker 1: hope it inspires others. I hope people will share this.

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Speaker 1: Our thoughts and our prayers are with you and your family.

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Speaker 1: But what an amazing legacy that she has left behind.

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Speaker 2: Well, she has left an amazing legacy, including her daughter, Bibie,

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Speaker 2: who is extraordinary. She's like a sister to me, including me.

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Speaker 2: She impacted my life in a very profound way. I

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Speaker 2: will tell you A couple of weeks ago, I went

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Speaker 2: up to see her. She lived in Dallas. I went

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Speaker 2: up to see her and brought Heidi and the girls,

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Speaker 2: and we saw her in the hospital and she was

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Speaker 2: not fully conscious. She was going in and out of consciousness.

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Speaker 2: But I told her. I told her that that we

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Speaker 2: got Maduro, and I told her Cuba is next, the

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Speaker 2: Cuban Communist regime is going to fall next. And even

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Speaker 2: kind of coming in and out of consciousness, she smiled

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Speaker 2: the biggest smile. And to have a chance to tell

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Speaker 2: her that and for her to hear that before she

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Speaker 2: goes to be with the Lord. She is truly a

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Speaker 2: warrior for liberty, the Asagna. I love you,