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We like to welcome you to another 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.440 episode Against the Chronicles podcast. And now I am Big 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.959 Steel along with my homeboy and today Man, we got 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.520 one of my folks in the studio with us. Man 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.039 from the greatest city on the motherfucking planet, from the 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.560 city of Cleveland. Man one of the most from one 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.399 of the most iconic groups of all time. Man don't 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:28.720 been bit stole from emulated, but never duplicated. My mother 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.920 fucker Homeboy. Lazy Boom from the Almighty Boone Thugs was 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.040 cracking dog Man. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.360 You know what it is that Cleveland connection in the 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:36.280 building for sure. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.920 Man. You know you're from the city, Dog, So I 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.679 had to give you the slide. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.679 You try to slide some shit in there, Try to 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:47.000 slide from city on the nigger hub City nigga, they 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:47.919 just city. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.200 You are trads for he you know what, Hey, this 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.400 would always go like this, what I tell him in 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.000 the Homie Glasses. Without Ohio, it wouldn't be no West 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:57.920 Coast music. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.520 Her Man. We got the funk. The funk come from Ohio. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.560 Bottom line, the funk come from Ohio, Dog. And we 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.880 love California. California is my home. I love it, love 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.760 the people here. Oh, don't say they pull your mic towards. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.880 You, Okay, yeah, check right there. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.799 Yeah. So you know, just with all the funk man 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.200 from from Roger Trout and Man just on everything that 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.399 the West don't love and embrace so much. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.600 Though played football. Get a body here, man. It that 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:31.000 hometown city. But I'm at. I'm at to tell Maria 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.040 to snatch that drum machine out your house right now. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.320 You know, you two hip hop for be right there? 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.640 Hey man, you know what I'm a brother, just love music. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.840 And you're coming from the city of Cleveland, man like 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:45.520 I come from. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:45.880 Man. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.120 And I know you don't been asked this a million times, man, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.880 because y'all did something nobody else was doing at that time. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:58.680 Y'all incorporated harmonies with the rhyming. Where did y'all How 0:02:58.720 --> 0:02:59.880 did y'all come up with this ship? 0:02:59.919 --> 0:03:00.000 Man? 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.160 I mean, you know, Cleveland is a singing city. You 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.839 got the old Jays, le Vert, you know what I mean, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.200 Rue boys, All that whole R and B flavor was 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.040 thoroughly breaded in Cleveland, you know what I'm saying. And 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.960 my mom sings, so you know we come from We 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.680 come from that school born in the in the seventies, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.639 you know what I'm saying. We grew up with the 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.600 Temptations and you know Dell Phonix, all them old school 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.200 motown groups. You know what I mean. It was embedded 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.720 from our parents' music, you know what I'm saying. So 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.960 when when we was growing up it was like you 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.080 wanted to be a rapper. You ain't want to be 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.720 a singer. Although we were singers. We did New Addition, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.840 you know what I'm saying. We emulated all that Michael 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.120 Jackson New Addition. But in the streets, you know what 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.400 I mean. You wanted to be a rapper because you 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.320 wanted to be hard. You know what I'm saying. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.560 If you was coming from the streets right, you. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:54.720 Know, you ain't want to be known. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.800 You know what I'm saying. You went from wanting to 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.160 be the New Addition and the Jackson fivees too. You 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.120 wanted to be the run DMCs and the whoos and 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.720 the ship like that. So definitely that was our generation 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.440 of time when we was coming to pass from that absolutely. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.120 Yeah. Man, and you from Claire Man, you all right 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.160 across from Glenfield, right, yeah, right across from Glenfield. I 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.960 went to the field though, I said to walk through 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.080 that motherfucker every day because I lived off I lived 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.680 off one hundred and third, yeah, in Superior, but we 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.000 claimed hundred you know, ten five. You know, that was 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.120 our section. And at that time, if you was walking through, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.279 you know, off Saint Clair, you might get touched on 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.000 a little bit, you know what I'm saying, have a 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.440 few altercations on the way home. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.000 Oh Man, Saint Clair, Saint Clair. Like, people really don't 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.799 know how segregated Cleveland really was. Like when I came 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.760 out to California, I was culture shocked because you had 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:53.240 Mexicans and different people were like in Cleveland, it's all black. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.479 It's all black beside Cleveland. Like when you when you 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.520 walk in them streets, right, you gotta deal with niggas, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.479 and it used to be divided. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.599 That was the funny thing about it, because you would 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.240 have a cat that lived. You might have went to 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.599 elementary school with him. Yeah, but he's stay on this 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.040 side and you still on this side. And y'all niggas 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.479 is few, and you really don't know why. It's just that, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.279 you know, when you walk through certain least for me 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.520 because I'm a little bit older than you. You used 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:17.880 to have the squabble, used to have to have your 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:18.520 squabble game. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.440 Right, we went to uh, we went to FDR, you 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.719 know what I'm saying. So we had it out with 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.400 Patrick Henry the other other junior high school you know 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.800 what I'm saying. Like, so one of my great friends 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.680 in life is named ken Dog Mighty more thug, you 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.560 know what I'm saying. So we used to have to 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.040 squab with them niggas all the way until we got 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.240 bussed to the same school. You know what I'm saying, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.800 Like in high schools, but in junior high that was 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.240 that side, that was that side. If you crossed it, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.279 it was on and cracking. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:49.480 Yeah yeah, man, I know. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.000 Still coming out here from Cleveland and seeing how we 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.479 got down one shit, how was it different? 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.919 You know what, man, California is deceptive. It's a motherfucker 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.680 because as Lake and the tests, Cleveland is a ghettle 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.279 like up there, it ain't no in between. But out 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.680 here you could be in a place that looked suburb 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.240 in its head and look nice, but you be smacked 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.799 there in the middle of the hood like California is nice. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.400 It's like if you a homeless nigga, or if you 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.440 ain't first, ain't got no money, and you sleeping in 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.200 your jacket. You know what I'm saying, You got the 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.680 winner you're dealing with. There ain't no money up in 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.200 that motherfucker. At least out of here. You can work 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.159 a monkey hustle out here, nigga, go get him a 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.760 job at motherfucking Walmart working at night, or a job 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.880 it's a security guards some fucking where in Cleveland. If 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.599 it ain't cracked, it ain't cracked. You ain't got no 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:35.960 choice but either hook or crook. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.160 When we first touched down out here, we touched down 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.200 in Mansfield, in Mansfield Hood, you know what I mean. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.840 And to me, that shit looked a nice yeah what 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.600 I'm saying. So we walking to the store to go 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.720 get bruise and things like that, We're thinking it's okay. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.360 But niggas cornered us, you know what I'm saying. They like, Man, 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.760 if you're gonna be around here, you got to claim something, 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.960 nigga like, we gotta protect you. And what I'm like, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.920 I'm like, Man, we ain't gonna be here long. We rappers, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.960 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but like the decept 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.800 like you know, the projects in Cleveland look like the 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.360 projects out here, Like every California, cantif is beautiful out Yeah. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.720 Man, I used to think man living up and I 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.640 used to think man when I used to go visit 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.040 homies that live different places. I would go up to 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.080 like Bedford in different places, Shaker Heights. I thought that 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.120 shit was nice. I was like, man, they rich. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.240 Yeah, you go up there. I mean you don't. We 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.480 don't even go up there. You're scared to get pulled 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.440 over up there, you. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.720 Know what I'm saying. But out here in California, dog, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.520 that's the thing, everything is is nice, man like. Cause 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.800 I was in I came to Long Beach in eighty eight, right, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.800 And the only thing that was when I started realizing 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.920 it was the same kind of was the sack. You 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.960 know what I'm saying. Everything was about the sack at 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.360 that time. You getting you a sack, man, You getting 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.400 on with a zone or a fifty piece you know, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:54.600 fifty piece of a zone. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.680 You hustle, Yeah, start hustling, you know what I mean. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.840 Yeah, So we we ain't know what to expect. All 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:02.480 we knew was minutes to society, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.400 watching y'all niggas on the movie. So we we ain't know. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.680 You know, all we heard was the gang, the uh, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.920 the riots had just went down and all that shit. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.560 So when we got out here, we ain't know. We 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.240 didn't know, you know what I'm saying. So this California 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.800 I'm from Cleveland. Phone. I just to let everybody know. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.640 I left Cleveland. I was eighteen years old. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.120 You was like me. I was seventeen when I first came. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.280 Out, forty nine this year. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.240 So the rest of my years, I've been out here 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:37.520 in California embedded mean, So I'm a Cleveland, California. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.800 Nigga exactly, maniggas I came. Man, I ain't lot. Last 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.480 time I went to the crib though, I couldn't do 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.600 no more. I can't do past a week when I do, Man, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.760 you can't. I can't do past a week because you 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:46.040 see it. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:46.560 You can't. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:47.240 Man. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.480 I love California though, no shit, Ye it's the shit. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.840 What's the longest you stayed when you went back home? 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.280 You know what? Man? Once I make my runs and 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.440 go cause I got ainties, Man, that's getting up in 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.160 the eighties and stuff. So I try to make at 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.640 home a little bit more frequently. I could do a 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.080 week though once because I got a big ass family. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.680 Once I hit the family in Cleveland, then I go 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.960 out to Akron and all that stuff that looks around area. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.280 I might hit Columbus if I got time. Once I 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.240 do that and see everybody straight though I'm ready to go. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.920 It's too slow, my dude, Yeah it's slow, man. And 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.760 then you know, like we still bringing the opportunities there, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.760 you know what I mean, Like you know they like, well, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.800 you know, do it from home doing, but all the 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:29.880 resources is here. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:34.120 Yeah, exact line. Because one of the things y'all did 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.319 there was a big deal man, and I was really 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.080 hoping that it took. When y'all built Most Thug Records, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.880 y'all actually a base it in Cleveland, And I thought 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.760 that was dope because I had, you know, my people 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.360 hit me in the sign. You know, bone got a 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.360 record company. We go try to I know niggas was 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.360 talking about. I know y'all state got y'all lobby, state 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.840 full of people trying to submit demos. 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.520 Didn't Yeah, man, most the headquarters was wild. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.600 Yeah man, What made y'all decide to just keep it 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:00.000 in Cleveland? 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.200 I mean back then, the mission was to come out 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.480 here to be something, to make some of ourselves, to 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.720 bring it home anyway, you know what I mean. Like 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.480 we wanted to go home to make a difference, you 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.560 know what I mean. But we just didn't know how 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.880 much work that really didn't entail you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.720 it's like nothing, nothing was there. So it'll probably be 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.720 a generation after me before we get it all the 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.040 way built up because we started from nothing. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.560 Yeah for real, man, that's why. So because Cleveland, man 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.720 almost like had the worst look in the world. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:36.000 Man. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.439 We lost the football team, man, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.240 Remember when dude took the football team out to see 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.439 I really cried when that happened, my nigga. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.200 I was like, yeah, we always hurt, man. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.960 I was mad. Then the motherfucker to Browns, and then 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.960 the niggas fucked around and won a championship like a 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:51.680 few years later. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.560 I was same year year Baltimore won a chat won 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.280 a championship. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.560 I felt like that should have been all harsh, like 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.920 they kind of me just did what the fan base. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.360 What happened? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something about Cleveland. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.000 You as a nigga who was you know from the streets, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.120 born and bred Cleveland. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.960 What happened? Man? I think it's a combination of poverty, man, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.319 and lack of opportunity. You know, because you think about it, man, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.200 that bone wouldn't have made their trip out here. Ain't 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.319 nonna tell y'all possibly could have got picked up by 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.360 somebody in New York. But I can't picture y'all on 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.400 no other label other than ruthless, you know what I mean. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.520 We had a choice, though, we could have went to 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.040 the East Coast. It was closer. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.760 We was a coin flipp or was it like that 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.200 going to the West Coast? 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.440 It was y'all nigga. Y'all had this like we was 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.680 coming to California because of easy E, because of eight 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.959 you know what I'm saying, because of shit Snoop had 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.440 just started, you know what I'm saying. So doctor Dre 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.400 like that whole influence that, Like we was influent Cleveland. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.800 We was influenced by everything. But when the West Coast hit, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.920 niggas had on dickies. Yeah we was. We was California 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.280 because we was on the block selling dope. So oh man, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.680 here it was like that's where I want to be. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.480 Hell, yeah, you got the same bug I did, man, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.280 And I think. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.360 You didn't get the East Coast bug at all. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.280 Sted you know what, No, I messed with East Coast 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.440 music heavy man, But I always saw myself, like I 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.280 told you when I heard six in the morning and 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.360 Ryan Page and all that. Man, I said, that's that 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.280 sound exciting to me. I ain't trying to go somewhere 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.320 else where it's cold like it. He is here because 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.960 my thing was this, if I'm gonna go somewhere and struggle, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.760 I'm gonna be where it's hot at and I can 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.840 get some money. Absolutely, you feel what I'm saying. It's like, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.679 if I'm gonna go to New York, you fuck around, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.440 you might have a stretch, my nigga, you might have 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.200 to sleep in the car or some shit a few nights. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.000 I'd rather sleep in the car out here. And this 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.360 motherfucker talked and be in Ohio or New York's. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.800 So crazy, how something? You know the paths that some 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.800 niggas took. You know what I'm saying, be cause y'all 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.040 being all the way up there, being right there by 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.280 New York, y'all decided to come here. My man Primo, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.760 who was from Texas, who was a hop skipping and 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.280 jump from Cali, he decided to fight it. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.640 But see going to New York. Check this out there. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.080 If Primo don't hook up with Guru, he might not 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.400 ever become Primo you feel what I'm saying. He might 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.920 not right, but you know, I think at the end 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.160 of the day, man, it be divine intervention. Man. I 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.520 very much believe in God, man, and I think sometimes 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.200 God got a plan and he'll plant little breadcrumbs along 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.840 the way to let you know this, because it's just 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:33.080 a feeling, like when I heard Ice Tea that I 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.440 could picture myself out here rolling down motherfucking crensh Off 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.280 or whatever that was. And you have a choice. Why, Brod, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.679 did you have a choice? You know what, man, I 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.559 could have went because I played football. That was a 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.559 little way out I could have went. My grades is 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.120 messed up. I could have went to a little school 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.880 in Kansas called Coffeeville. And I know they took me 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.640 on a trip down there, and all I saw down 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.120 there was fat white girl's dog. No offense to fat 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.160 white women, but they was down and they had a tail. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.280 They're gonna be waiting out with a gang of pies 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.440 to throw in your faces. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.560 But you know, you know, I want them a little 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.360 recruiting trips, so to speak. And they had a little 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.840 party and I went down there. They had a bunch 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.000 of robust women, robust white women. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.079 They have healthy females. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.080 Yeah, you know. And they had some fruit punch and 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.560 some potato chips on the table and I was like, man, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.360 I don't know, man, it's even more boring than Cleveland. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.600 Mant least Cleveland ain't boring. You like it, it's the 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.920 wrong ship, But you're get into something this generic. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:32.800 They had tato chips and. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.360 Fruit Yeah, so either I'm gonna pick potato chips and 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.280 fruit punks. Well, I'm gonna go out there to with 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.840 the beach at and the wear. Look exciting that I'm 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.800 going out this sighting scene because they ain't you know, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.080 I'm going to exacy. They ain't bringing niggas on the 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.280 recruiting trips. You know, I just knew from what I 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.000 saw on TV. Nigga, I'm going out to where the 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.640 palm trees at the girls bacon. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.800 You just picked the JC and said, fuck it, I'm 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:53.600 headed that I'm. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.920 Coming to Long b C. And it was the best 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.800 thing I ever did in my life. Shout out the coach, 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.840 will Shaw. This man changed my life, you know what 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.160 I mean? Man changed my life. Man. I wound up 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.960 doing some incredible things coming to California that I know 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.320 for sure. Would have been impeded in Cleveland by a 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.160 number of things. First of all, we got to go 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.400 back to the lack of opportunity. I would have for 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.720 sure been selling because all my homeboys went on to 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.480 become some of that state's biggest d boys. You feel 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.440 what I'm saying. They was really moving some things and 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.280 along that came to them. Niggas going during penitentiary time. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.320 Shout out to my nigga, Teddy, he just came home. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:26.840 He was just out of here, the one I brought 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.320 to the show in La Okay. You know, me and 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.480 him the when I we first started hustling. Me and 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.640 him was hustling together. But I said, I don't know 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.440 if this is what I want to do full time, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.560 my nigga, but he was even then you saw in 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.280 his eyes we made that first fifteen hundred two. He 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.880 was like, man, this is zip right here. You stupid 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.200 for leaving, you crazy for leaving. And he was a 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.200 better football player than me, for real. My niggas they 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:47.960 wanted both of us. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.160 Yeah, niggas was throwing it away man out there in Cleveland. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.040 But you know that that state right there, you know 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.360 he got the Supreme Court. You know what I'm saying, like, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.360 you guys sold it the police in Cleveland and Ohio period. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.400 You know what they say about Ohio. You go on vacation, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.000 you leave it on probation, because they they want a nigga. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.360 You go, they gonna, they gonna, they gonna get you 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:16.160 with a ticket somehow. That's why I got out of there, 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.600 because I tried to go home and live home and 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.240 all that. But when you got like when you when 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.120 you got the more money and you driving bens and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.520 this that, and you're standing out sticking out like a 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.760 sore thumb. Every time I pulled out my driveway, they 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.400 was boom boom, just trying to hit me, you know, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.120 keeping me, keeping me in the system. I was like, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.720 so I might as well go where a drop top 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.600 five hundred bens is average, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.600 So I can blend in so that that that was 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.040 the benefit for California for me, because the lifestyle you 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.360 can spread out out here. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.520 You know what I thought that, you know, looking at 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:04.520 you know, where y'all had the status, you'd have thought 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.000 in some way they would have been kind of proud 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.679 to you know, for sure, you know, we got some 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.600 local boys who'd have made it good, and I mean 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.720 made it good. You know, as far as music is 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.160 hip hop is concerned, y'all was on the map, as 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.560 far as Cleveland is concerned. And you would think that 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.920 the local motherfucking law enforcement motherfucker would be like, oh, 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.720 that's bone. Thuh, that's lazy bone. You know what I'm saying. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.240 Them niggas, we know he ain't. We know he ain't 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.920 no d boy, We know he ain't gang banging and 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.520 nothing like that. This motherfucker made it from the music, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.359 so and he's got us on the status. But you know, 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.919 haterism coming all kind of shapes and shit was. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.399 The worse than the people they're supposed to love. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.200 You man, it was like fifty to fifty. You know 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.399 what I'm saying. You had the niggas that gun hope 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.400 police they'll give me an escort home if I'm drinking 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.399 and something like that, But then his partner might be 0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:00.520 prejudice as hell, like fuck this nigger. We've taken men 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.639 and like they but that's how it is prejudiced like that. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.920 Especially man with the mentality that the white folks. That's 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.600 what I tell brothers here, I say y'all ain't really 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.760 encountered no racism out here because out here a motherfucker 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.960 see you and behave and go have drinks. But you 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.240 getting this car fucking nigger because it's just a little 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.040 bit more progressive out here. You know, you can't. Racism 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.520 is frowned to punt out here. But back there you 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.360 got some white boys to tell you, I don't fuck 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.080 with your kind nigger. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.240 I mean, it's they see you. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.119 They say diddy as nigger. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.440 And to this day though, like they it's just born 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.240 and bred. When you raised like that, what I'm saying, 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.960 like when your parents put that in you. You know 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.840 what I'm saying, it's hard to It's hard. Like I 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.040 even had friends that, you know, when I went to school, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.840 we was cool as hell. But afterwards, you know, being 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.920 on the West Side, I couldn't go over their house 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.320 or nothing like that because they parents. You know, I'm 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.560 just like, you know, they just didn't make this. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.320 How it was, especially with the busting program even and 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.320 they a's crazy, they kept it going because I was 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.640 busted to the West Side. When I was in elementary, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.720 I went to Thomas Jefferson, No not Thomas Jeffers went 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.000 Thomas Jefferson for junior high. I went to Clark Elementary 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.920 for elementary, right and right across from Clark. Yeah, you 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:15.480 went to Clark. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.240 I went to Clark. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.560 Yeah. It was a white supremacist thing right across the 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.199 street from Clark Elementary. I don't know if it was 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.840 still there when you was there, but that's just how 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.640 it was. Yeah, they let you know. Man. Oh man, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.480 I had a girl, Becky tell me. She said, Norman, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.400 you're really nice. But my my mom says that black 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:32.840 people are monkeys. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.439 Yeah, yeah, I mean they That's that's one thing about 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.840 you know. That's why I like it here, you know 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.160 what I'm saying, because you got you got, you got everybody, man, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.000 all this melting pot here California. But that's why people 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.760 start migrating West a long time ago. Anywhere. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.639 You know, Yeah, you can make it. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:50.800 Man. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:55.320 The thing is Cleveland, man, Unfortunately, Man is a place 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.440 that's marrowed by extreme poverty and the conditions don't make 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.920 it no better. You know, you're fighting the bad ass weather, right, 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.920 and then you got to just good old fashioned just haterism. Man, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.760 it's hard to wear if you a person that don't 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.960 attain a certain thing in your life. You gonna have 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.080 people mad at you for no reason. Man, it felt 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.119 like they should have been you, like, like seriously, it's 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.000 the weirdest thing ever. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:14.240 Bro. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.920 I mean, don't get me wrong. I got love for 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:22.320 my city, like I love Cleveland to death. Look my heart, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.600 that shit rough. We ain't gonna front. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.840 I've done playing these shows in Cleveland. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.479 Yes, indeed, yeah, Cleveland for But Cleveland put something inside 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.320 of you, though. Dog, if you if you a hustler, 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:38.120 Cleveland like give a like you just. I don't know 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.320 no niggas, the slackers from Cleveland, anybody I know from Cleveland, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.359 they trying to get it, man, because they understand what 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.359 poverty is. It's like every day, dog, I don't. I 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.240 never allowed myself to get comfortable, no matter how much 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.639 money y'all got in the bank or whatever, because I know, 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.280 with just a few twists and turns, man, you could 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.640 be on your ass somewhere. Man, you be right back 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.479 in that motherfucker dog looking at the niggas you went 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:00.480 to elementary school with. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.399 I think that's any niggas mentality or any person period, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.320 male or female. Man, if you just born with that, 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:15.240 you know, go get mentality. It's hard to stop trying 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.480 to find the next hustle, you know what I'm saying, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.720 or the next you know, job, or the next come 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:25.040 up or whatever it is. That that's for simple minded 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.320 motherfuckers who are settled with just where I am. 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.920 In old way, you can't you can't never get content. Man. 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.200 You know one thing I wanted to ask you about. Man, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.200 at the time you came out here with Ruthless, Man, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.560 your easy was really up close and personal with y'all. 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.160 Did he ever take you to the house in Norwalk? Man? 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:50.399 That house is legendary. Bro. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.280 Hey, man, that house is Nordwalk. That's that's where we 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.720 used to go, Like he would have other artists come 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.440 out of town. We was big drinkers, like you know 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.240 what I'm saying, And he was like, y'all niggas can't 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.000 drink more than these niggas. We'll tear that nigga house up. 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.760 We been that montherfucker drunk. This nigga got eight k's everywhere, 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.080 just you know what I mean. Yeah, but Northwalk that's 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.439 where we used to go get to do what we 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:15.080 wanted to do. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.280 Yeah, Ralph the Free where was real? Little key Man 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.320 shot up at the homies skipping twine, Big Twine, Big Twine. Yeah. 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.439 They had me over there man, one time when I 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.639 never saw I never knew that part of time. You know, 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:31.879 being a Northwalk you don't think, man, all kind of 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:32.680 bras over there. 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.840 Man. Yeah. Yeah, we used to go over there, man, 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.280 and just like he'll be showing us, that's when I 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.679 over there. That's how we found out he was a 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.040 prankster too, you know what I'm saying. So he would 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.520 show us video tapes of him pranking CPO, and you 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.240 know what i mean. We spent a lot of nights 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.119 in Northwalk, man. That shit was cool. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:59.439 Yeah, man, you know what I still think man to 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:03.120 this day, not to try to hash up no controversy 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.200 or nothing. I don't think the Easy died of age. 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.240 I just don't think he did. I don't believe he did. 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.879 I've had family members to suffer from that disease, you know, 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.080 and forces not a lot of them, but I've seen 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.080 people go through that, man, and you just don't go 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.560 to being diagnosed it's for full blown age and never 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:22.080 had HIV, you know what I'm saying. It was too 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:23.360 much about that, man. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.200 I know one thing in America. We can't put nothing 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.600 past nobody, you know what I'm saying, Like definitely because 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.239 if they want you up out of there, like I 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:37.080 still think, you know, tupacin Biggie situation, when as far 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.520 as it did, because that that boy was so politically 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.480 in his mind where he was going, they probably got 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.359 rid of them niggas. You know what I mean. They 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.240 probably know they know how to get rid of you. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.080 You know what I mean. They killed off a whole 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.880 generation of smart men, from Malcolm to Martin. 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:56.120 You know what I mean. 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.600 You can't put nothing past you. 0:23:58.600 --> 0:23:59.840 You got to watch yourself. 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.119 And when you start talking about the Malcolm in the 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.760 marks Man, it ain't nothing for them to touch a 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:05.040 rapper dog, it ain't. 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.359 I mean, they shut the panthers down, you know what 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.400 I'm saying, Like infiltrated us, put crack in our neighborhoods, 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.400 you know what I mean, got our parents all fucked up. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.560 Saint God hip hop came along because we would all 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:19.520 been fucked up. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.280 Oh yeah, for sure. Man, It'd have been in real 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:23.320 bad times. Man. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.360 Can you imagine with no hip hop? Well, a lot 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:27.719 of niggas would be right now. 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.320 Man, Man, we would I know I wouldn't be here, man, it'd. 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.720 Be a whole bunch of people in penitentiary. Dog, Yeah, 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.680 a whole bunch of kets in the graveyard. 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.040 He's a more dead, lot of more dead niggas, a 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.520 lot of more niggas in the pen you know, because 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.639 it gave even though like I said, it's still connected 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.840 niggas with the streets, it gave a lot of niggas 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:53.439 an opportunity to change their lives as far as uh 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.840 poverty and the kids and you know, being able to 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.000 be around your children. You know, we we grew up 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.159 a lot of single fathers and shit like that, and 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.600 like you said, a lot of dope was introduced and 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:11.560 all that shit. So we learned a hard way our generation. 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.560 You know, not that our parents then, you know, you 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.840 got slavery and all that shit that our great grandparents 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.920 and all that had to but going through the gang shit, 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.919 niggas popping at you and trying to sell dope and 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.159 taking penitentiary chances, we had some fucked up shit to 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.400 go through too that we had to try to make 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.280 it out of. You feel me. So hip hop did 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:32.960 that for a lot of niggas, man. 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.200 Oh man, I'm gonna tell you something, Man, professional athletics 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.640 and music has been the thing for the black community. Man. 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.280 I just want to see a time, man, at where 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.360 we start expanding beyond that. Man, Because like I tell everybody, 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.359 when people talk to me about want to do a podcast, 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.440 I said, why don't you want to become a producer. 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.640 Why don't you want to become a person that want 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.280 to learn how to work the cameras, how to edit 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.800 through what the things? It's too many people doing podcasts, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.119 odds of you breaking into that industry. It's almost like 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.240 the new record deal Dog. Definitely odds. Odds are very 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:06.800 slim as you ran the label Dog. It's hard. It's 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.240 hard just just to come up in something, man and 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.040 just make millions of dollars. And I think a lot 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.360 of times, man, when you in places like Cleveland, Compton 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.439 and wats because they all the same places, Dog, just 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.119 different climates. I think it's hard for a kid to 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.200 see that because a kid see his mom and daddy 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:23.840 going to work every day and they still don't got nothing. 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.920 That's not attractive. But you're looking at the dope man 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.040 outside and he got the deep dish datings on his 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.200 ship man, he got a pocket full of money. Man, 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.200 he just looked he looked fresh. Dog. 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.480 Oh yeah, you're twelve years old. We used to play 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.680 that's my car, that's my car. Real, that's my car, 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:39.480 that's my car. 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.760 That should influenced that. I mean it influenced a lot 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.600 of us who felt like we wanted a better situation 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:53.200 from what we was in. You feel me. I mean 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:58.480 my pops worked, you feel me. He worked at General Motors, 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.600 went to work nine to five or whatever. Moms did 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.440 the same thing. Shit. We we wasn't living in no 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.760 you know, we didn't have no Mercedes bends in the driveway. 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.440 We had an average car. We didn't live in motherfucking 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:19.119 Beverly Hills or or fucking Baldwin Hills, or even fucking 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.240 Lakewood for that matter. You get me. We lived in 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.160 fucking Compton. Not that Compton was bad, because I loved it, 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.760 But that's what, you know, we was faced with. You 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.399 know what I'm saying. When you turn around and you 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.080 look at the nigga down the street, God damn, this 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.880 nig got a brand new motherfucking truck o' goddamn Dayton's 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.320 And wait a minute, the nigga got a lo lo too. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.960 And then wait a minute, the nigga got this too, 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:48.720 hood and that too. 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.880 Last summer he was on the bus man. 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.000 The niggas got motherfucking you. You look at that and 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.439 be like, well, shit, you're looking at your parents and 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.880 you know it. That's if if you had that motherfucker 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.840 or your hard work mentality, you know, you get what 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.040 you paid you. You know that type of shit. Tell you 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.720 somewhere you looked at the nigga down the street who 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.439 had all this shit, and he was out there on 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.800 the corner pitching. That was your influence. My influence wasn't 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.200 to go punch no motherfucking clock like I saw moms 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.399 and pop slavery. They was coming home with backs hurting 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:23.359 and knees hurting. 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.360 I tell you right now, dog, I tell my kids 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.359 and people don't misjudge for what I'm about to say, 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.560 because you should take your lazy ass to work to 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.840 provide for your family. But do that while you're building 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.600 towards a dream. I told all my kids, y'all don't 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.600 need to think of getting no jobs. Don't go to school, 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.480 used to get no job because a job it motherfucker. 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.800 Let you go at any time. That's almost like a 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:45.360 sucker bed. 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:45.920 Almost. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.760 You work somewhere for all your life, man, and then 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.760 by the time they tell you can retire now to 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.400 retirement age done went up two years every time every 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.520 year since I came out of high school. You can't 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.760 retire to you damn in sixty seven and seventy now, 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:00.800 so you think about it, you can from work some 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.560 motherfucking place for all your life. Dog at seventy, you 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.800 come home for a few years and you done. Yeah, 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.840 while making another motherfucker rich. Now he don't provide it 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.440 for you know, you got a pay check out of 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.000 that dog. But I just always aspired for more. 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:14.280 Man. 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.600 I can tell people to find you a telling what 0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.000 you're good at. It ain't necessarily gotta beat it, you know, rapper, 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.600 no podcast, no actor or nothing like that. But you 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360 could beat the nigga that clean cars, the detailed car 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.120 is real good on your own detailed shop. You can't 0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:28.520 never fire yourself, my nigga. 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:35.400 Yeah, having that, having that mentality is it's hard for 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.640 a young nigga or a young kid who's eleven or 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.600 twelve coming up in poverty in the struggle. When I'm 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.800 watching the niggas on the block every day, and then 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.800 I'm seeing police shit and I'm seeing niggas get smoked 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.960 from my block. It changes your mentality, you know what 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.960 I'm saying. You want to strive for, you know something better. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.800 But like I tell niggas, you know, as a kid, 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.480 you all you have those dreams you give me. When 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.360 I was a kid, I didn't think I was gonna 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.520 be no rapper, actor, podcast, motherfucker you give me. I 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.680 thought I was gonna be like any other typical kid. 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.160 I'm be a policeman, i'ma be a fireman, i'ma be 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:23.640 a doctor, lawyer, whatever. And then the more you see 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.920 poverty kick in and you like, well, shit, I ain't 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.920 got no new motherfucking nikes own, and moms ain't buying 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.400 me this. And then especially if your parents split and 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.280 now you got single moms at home, and now really 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.880 shit is like low income and shit your aspects of 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.920 like nigga, I ain't finna be no motherfucking doctor or lawyer. Shit, 0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.080 I'm barely finna make it out. The nigga niggas down 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:56.280 the street shooting every night. Who says I'm finna make 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:57.800 it out of here, and then next thing, you know, 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.760 you claiming the hood and then you running in with 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.600 the police every day. Nigga. I'm like, nigga, I'm gonna 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.320 be in praison some fucking well. 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.760 Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you who the influences are now. 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.000 When we was kids, it used to be the dude 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.120 down the block, you know that hustles over with. Now 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.800 that's gone, right, I'm gonna tell you what it is now. 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.959 The rappers that they see on TV, the images that 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.640 these cats portray, and it's real destructive because a lot 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.600 of these rappers don't have the money that they claim, 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.800 especially not the new ones just come in the game. 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.360 You've living off of advance, bro, and that jury is 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.320 more than likely rented or you know what I'm saying. 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.920 It's all props, dog. But we project these images man 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.000 to the community. Right. It's almost like dangling the steak 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.200 in front of pit bulls. Right. So they kids want 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.560 that now, so they gonna do whatever. And the Internet 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.680 has made it to where any nigga can become famous 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.920 or at least get five minutes of fame. For a minute, 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.240 you can get attention, right, So you got some people, man, 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.480 that's willing to do whatever they have to do to 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.120 get attention. They gotta go in and tell a lie 0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.880 about you or him or me or whoever. I look 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.000 at all do it. I look at all these people 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.080 now on the internet. I was just saying this ship 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:09.320 myself the other day. Mofucker will do anything to just 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.400 be somebody. Nowadays, you get me. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.400 You see everybody going, uh, what do they call themselves now? 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.680 Content creasy? 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.920 What the fuck is that? And then half the motherfuckers 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.160 who call themselves content creators ain't doing nothing but walking 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:31.000 around showing themselves. And I'll be like, mofucker will do 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:35.760 anything today the lines about somebody else telling lies, and 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.400 I'm gonna eat some shit, I'm gonna wear some shit. 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.280 I'm gonna get on here, like there's so many people 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.080 that just get on the internet just act foods and 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.640 ship for attention. You get me like, man, I'm i'm, I'm, 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.240 I'm a fucking I'm I'm. I'm gonna feel me and 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:56.280 my husband in the bathroom getting dressed and pulling pranks 0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:56.880 on each other. 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.959 I saw I saw bro Not to cut you off, 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.720 but I saw broad Man. They said this chick make 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.760 a million dollars a month, letting niggas watch her sleep. 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:11.560 It's just like everybody wants to be Like I ain't 0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.800 man at that though, dog, I want everybody wants to 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.880 be famous today, man, or be somebody like you you 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.600 don't have. You don't hear too many motherfuckers like oh, 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.479 I want to become a teacher or an educator, or 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.200 I want to become a motherfucking lawyer, or I want 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:32.760 to be Everybody wants to be a YouTube content creating 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.720 sensation nowadays. 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.880 Get me, I think I think, man, I think it's 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.920 just it's everything changed, like because I think back when 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.240 I was a kid aspiring to be a rapper, you 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.240 know what I mean. Like today it seemed like the 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:53.480 main primary reason why niggas want to rap it is 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.920 to be famous. It's to be seen even more than 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.640 get the money to move to mama out the house 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.320 to you know, to take care of the family. It's 0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:07.480 like niggas just need to be seen more Like when 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.040 I was growing up, it was like, Okay, I want 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.920 to be the best rapper. You want to have skills, 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.880 you want to be able to tell stories, you know 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.440 what I'm saying. Like you wanted like being a rapper 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:23.080 was it was being somebody. It was like it was 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.640 like a tool that got you out of the hood. Now, 0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.719 like you know, we wanted we wanted to rap to 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.480 get out, to take care of moms, to to get 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.840 out the motherfucking hood period. Now niggas want to rap 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.360 and go straight back to the hood. You know what 0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.800 I mean. It's like or they put on for the hood. 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.120 You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it's not 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:50.680 a real purpose in being an entertainer no more. It's like, 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.440 like you said, they just want to be seen. 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:52.839 You know. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.120 Still as a kid, what did you inspire to be? 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:57.040 Man? 0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.120 As a kid? You know what, Brake, I'm sure it 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.520 wasn't like I'm gonna be producing hip hop records or 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.320 I'm gonna be a podcast. Oh no, that you inspire 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:08.520 to be as a child. 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.239 You know what I wanted to be when I was 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.080 a little kid, Man, I used to be able to 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.080 draw really good. Okay, I wanted to do cartoons when 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.000 I was a little kid. I really wanted to do 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.239 I want to do that all the way up into 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.680 college until I saw how much especially the technology wasn't 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.360 like it is today. You know, in order for you 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.400 to get in the cartoon work man, you had to 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.360 go to four or five different schools. Like when you 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.480 get your backs threat, you got to go off here 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.239 and learn something. You might have to fly off of 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.880 here to China or Japan for a year, learn to 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.440 do this, depending on what you want to do, you 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.200 know what I mean. But I wanted to really be 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.759 an artist. Dog. I always like lean toward the arts, 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.080 you know what I mean. But I never had even 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.799 though I played football, I never really had aspirations on 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.440 being a professional athlete, so to speak. I just always 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.960 especially back then, because believe it or not, football players 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.960 just getting the way they're making good money. Back then, 0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.000 when I was coming out, I think the league minimum 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.800 one hundred thousand a year. I knew motherfuckers that was 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.720 getting jobs that was better than that. And I always 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.839 thought about the financial aspect. My knees was hurting and 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.080 back hurting all the time. I was like, man for 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.960 one hundred dollars, man getting whacked on fo a hundred thousand. 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.680 They got me fucked up. It wasn't ready for the turches. 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.799 Oh no, man, And I was really good. I was good. 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.680 I wanted to play baseball man. I wanted to play 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.800 baseball like nine eight seven eight nine, and I wanted 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.120 I wanted to be I wanted to be Michael Jackson. Okay, 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.960 you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be him. 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.000 Then I wanted to be ll cool J. You know 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.120 what I mean. And then when I started getting like 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.960 you know, I really start selling dope and I caught 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.160 a couple of cases, I wanted to be a lawyer, 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.000 know what I'm saying. So you know, life delp me 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.200 what it dept me. But I did aspire to do 0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:57.120 other things besides music, you know, sports music. I aspired 0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.480 for that, but I knew if all that would failed, 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.720 I probably would have became an attorney or something. 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:07.000 It's like it's like the youth now, like they and 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.480 like you said, I don't be a mo fucking rapper, 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:15.120 niggah artist, fucking baseball player, fucking you know what I'm saying. 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.920 I want to be a rapper. I think that is 0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:23.600 why when I had my son, I pushed for something else. 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:28.240 He gus already knew that rap bug on hit him, 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.239 especially with the artists that they have today and his 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.600 generation in the youth. And you know, you got the 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:40.040 eighteen nineteen year old motherfuckers riding around in the rolls 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.759 Royces and all this shit that was gonna influence him 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.640 if he saw that shit every day. So automatically, it 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.759 was like, nah, nigga, we getting outside you nigga from 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.040 from the age of three years old until I could 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.240 stick it in your brain. You get me, it's gonna 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.560 be something else. Besides, and he used to detour a 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.520 little bit. Hey Dad, you think I can And how 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.239 do you do this? And how do you do that? 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.640 Work the microphone? Because I used to have my equipment 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.120 set up. How do you work the microphone? Nigga. I 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:15.040 took all that shit down because I didn't want him 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:19.319 to get influenced by this shit that I know is 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.920 a fucking headache and it's a roller coaster. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.600 You get, man, every kid, I know, Man, it's in 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:28.360 the business. Man in any park, they discouraged their kids. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.719 My son, Man, he played professional football, right, but it 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.200 seemed like he more interested in going into the music industry. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.879 And here I'm like, man, you're playing professional football. Lead 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.640 that stuff alone, man, And I finally told him, if 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:41.960 you can work in the industry, you can get a 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.759 real job. So hook them up with my boy. It 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.640 was up in the Universal Building. I said, you not 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.520 doing all this trying to go develop an artist and 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.400 find you messed round and lose every penny you got, man, exactly, 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.279 you fucking around because it's hard, man, it's not no guarantees. 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.279 Yeah, I pulled my kids into this shit early that, 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.720 but that was me out here thrive having him so young, 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.720 you know what I'm saying. Out here thriving doing having 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:09.560 him everywhere I was. So you know, now my oldest son, 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.399 like my younger sons, they won't it. They love this shit, 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.640 you know, my oldest son, and he won't it. They 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.919 love it too. But he was around it so much 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.600 as a kid that he shy away from it sometimes. 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.319 And like now, you know, he do his trade and 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.520 you know, different things that he do, educate hisself, Like 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.799 you know what I'm saying. So I think when you 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.040 put him in they're too young, they gonna kind of 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.760 bag up from it. Anyway. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.359 It'll burn you out, especially with the transition of how 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.360 shit going today. That's why I says, as a kid, 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:50.520 you gotta have some you know, some other solid inspirations, 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.600 you know what I'm saying. To want to become you 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.880 know what I'm saying, And no disrespect to the talent 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.560 and people who you know chasing that dream. I just 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.239 feel like with the way it is right now, like 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:08.879 I said, kids should be inspired to become something other 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.480 than the next hip hop star or the next whatever. 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.000 You know what I'm saying, get you some kind of 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.040 education to where when this shit starts nagging you, you 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:23.200 got something else to fall back on besides trying to 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.799 be the next Oh well, shit, I gotta be a 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.400 content creator, or I gotta I gotta start a only 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:31.720 fans or I gotta you know, well. 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.279 From what I see today, bro, my only problem is 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.680 that if now, if a kid got talent, Man, if 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.880 a kid is talented, and a lot of times the 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.520 apple do fall for far, don't fall far from the tree. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:42.719 You know. 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.120 Sometimes if a niggas he don't been seeing his daddy 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.239 rap since he's been in the crib, he go more 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.239 than likely possess some kind of lyrical tenacity, you feel 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:50.719 what I'm saying. 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.600 But at the same time, is he gonna have the 0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:54.480 sudden success? 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.080 Is he gonna have the same success and now today 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.640 to become a rapper dog it's about every thing that's 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.719 outside of music that's go actually get a motherfucker to 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.000 invest some money into you. So now you got the 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.520 girls that's out there doing whatever. They just doing whatever. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.000 They trying to outdo each other. They saying the craziest 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.160 stuff ever on records now and I don't I know, 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.680 we've been on that lately, so I don't want to 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.279 go back on that tarbet, but it just seemed like 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:20.800 to me that they almost It's like these little niggas 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.080 aspire to almost go to prison, my nigga. It's like 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.040 they get on like you see a cat like young 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.839 thug that's making all the money he was making. Now 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.080 he in this situation man, where this man might be 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.640 in jail for the rest of his life. It's like, okay, 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.000 so you struggled to get here, only to go back 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.880 to here to become worse, my nigga. 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:42.040 So I believe. I believe that. I believe that the 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.520 the artists, you know what I'm saying, like these days, 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:50.480 the artist is uh, it's changed. Tanning alone ain't just 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.600 gonna get it. You can be the dopest nigga, you 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.520 know what I mean. It's probably ten It was probably ten. 0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.160 Jordan's on the playground. But why that only one make it? 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.560 Because he knew, he understood his books, he knew with 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.400 his schooling. You know what I'm so, Now, I feel 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.360 like you have to have a business some type of 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:14.160 business degree if you're gonna be a rapper. So you 0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.799 know what I'm saying. You need to take accounting. You 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.640 know what I'm saying, Like all these a rapper now, 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.680 it ain't just us putting words on paper. You gotta 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.040 run a whole full business. So you just coming to 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.880 the mic because you could spit that don't mean nothing. 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.680 Everybody rap? So but can you manage your career? You 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.719 know what I'm saying, Like I manage myself. I've been 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:40.360 managing myself, but I've been reading my own contracts. You 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.640 gotta understand the wearing tools, the foe and withs and 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.920 the hearing tools in your contracts. And you gotta be 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.320 able to dissect your contract. Okay, you like your clothes 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:55.520 your brand now? Now, a rapper is a brand, you 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.280 know what I'm saying. So how do you manage that brand? 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.560 If you can't, if you don't under standing different aspects 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.600 of your shows, of your lawyers if you don't know 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.120 how to deal with every aspect of your business, then 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:10.960 you're not gonna make it in this You might get 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.640 a one hit song, but you ain't gonna last. 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.759 So and even if you do have a team some 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.319 kind of success, you gonna be everything gonna be gone 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.839 by the time you've done. You ain't gonna have no money. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.360 Because if you don't have a team, you know what 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.359 I'm saying, if you take advantage, I don't know, if 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.080 you don't know it, that team would rob the shit 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:28.520 out you. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.320 Oh for sure. This man right here is the primary 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.040 example of that. 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.840 Yeah, I've been robbed. I've been shook down to my socks, 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:39.360 you know what I'm saying. Like, so I'm really speaking 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.120 from experience, you know what I mean, Like had it 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.920 all came in first checked eighty thousand dollars, blew that, 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.799 you know what I mean? When did shit that wasn't 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.280 that was easy to blow? You know what I'm saying. 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.080 But we all did that because we had you know, 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.760 But over time I learned this. But now I feel 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.080 like if an artist, like when I'm looking at artists, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.680 like I know, a couple of dope ass niggas get 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.680 on the mic and kill it. Dumb as rocks though, 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.000 you know what I'm saying, Like, nigga, you're going you're 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:13.960 going straight to jail. I'm not feeling you a liability, right, 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.799 you know what I'm saying. So like that's how if 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.680 somebody gonna put some money behind you, they need to 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:23.440 see other than you just raping. They need to know 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.919 that you know, you're wise enough to control whatever that 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.120 investment is. You know. 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.200 So let me ask you this bro, coming from the 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:39.560 place we come from, man, y'all established more thug records, man, 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.560 and y'all put a lot of people from the city on. 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.600 You know how many people was mad at you that 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.640 you didn't put them on because you can't you can't 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.000 put the whole neighborhood on. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.839 I mean, niggas was mad period, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:59.239 Even the ones put a couple the worst thousands of 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.000 dollars in the pockets, you know, and then they mismanaged 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.480 their money and do they you know, spent their ship 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.319 how they spent it. But now and now you know, 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.600 you try, you try to do something helpful, and here 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:15.600 it is. It's a hinderance to you because you don't 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.000 put an uneducated person on that went blew. They shit 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:20.719 and now it's your fault. 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.759 And and they don't understand they have to pay that 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.440 money back you initially. 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.840 Gave them right, get that exactly. 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.439 And a lot of a lot of them records y'all 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.080 was putting out Man was going gold and platinum because 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.520 it feature gold and platinum people prominently on them albums. 0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.920 Y'all really got behind them. Martis, y'all used to throw 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.879 them out there. Y'all was on every record down there. 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.000 Yeah, I mean one way bus tickets from Cleveland, Ohio 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.440 out here, living homeless out here, you know what I mean? 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.239 That was the sacrifice, you know what I mean? Like 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.799 niggas didn't understand that we made that sacrifice for them, right, 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.160 you know what I mean, three day bus ride, not 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.960 knowing what you're gonna eat or who you gonna stay 0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.719 or what. You know what I'm saying, or that was 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.439 they didn't have to do that. I opened the door 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.640 and let him in, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.960 a couple of my artists still thriving off what they 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.480 got from me, A couple of my artists still blaming 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.080 me for what they didn't do, right, twenty years ago. 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.359 You know what I mean, But you gotta look at 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.600 the man in the mirror. I mismanaged my money. I 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.319 ain't blame nobody. I just got back on my shit 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:31.160 and became quiet and went and studied, you know what 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.040 I mean, Because I ain't want to be the nigga 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.640 on but what happened to you dog used to be 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.000 the man. I ain't want to be that nigga, you 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.400 know what I'm saying. So I had to learn from myself. 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:45.600 So these artists, you put these artists on a lot 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.880 of times, it don't be worth it because if you're 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:53.359 not a well rounded individual, you're not gonna sustain this shit. 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.520 And sometimes it ain't fun to put on. People gonna 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.080 blame you, definitely. 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.120 I was just saying that everybody's not probably gonna be 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:06.239 as successful as you know. I mean not to mean 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.080 that we're not gonna work and try and do what 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:16.200 we gotta do, but averages, you might not sell ten 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:20.040 million albums, you might not sell one million albums. Man, 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.640 your shit might come out, might do sixty thousand copies. 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.160 People work mysteriously like that when they come to music. 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.160 You know what I'm saying. I could like this motherfucker, 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.880 not like that motherfucker. No disrespect. You get me, But 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.400 I don't like that shit as much as I like this. 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:42.919 So that's just that's just people's flavor, man. And it's 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.520 unfortunate that you know, you might consider a motherfucker the 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.280 friend or the homie that you're trying to put on 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.359 because you believe in their talent. And but I can't 0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:54.960 make a motherfucker by your record. 0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:55.239 Man. 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.480 You get me. I can only talk to the radio 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.319 so much and be like, hey, man, play this for me, 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.160 play this for me. But at the end of the day, 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.440 cost effective. You know what I'm saying. I can't do 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:14.560 for you what easy and Ruthless did for me. You 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.959 get me as I'm a try. You get me. That's 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:23.000 my whole intent. But let's face it, this this rap game, 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:24.960 man is That's why I say, Man, I did not 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.319 want to encourage my son to go into this shit. 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.480 Who says you're gonna have the success I did. I'd 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.120 be loved if you was able to shit, if you 0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:40.400 was able to climb up over me, I'd be very proud, like, Okay, good, great. 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.080 You know what I'm saying, All the hard work and 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:47.160 determination paying off good. Great, But then what happens when 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.680 you put a motherfucker record out and he sell twenty copies? 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:51.040 Right? 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.320 You get me whisky? 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.399 Very well? Happening with this dream and shit, I don't 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.279 understand how that work anyway. But going back to your 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.880 going back to your you know, contract stuff and everything. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.080 A lot of artists say they first deal was unfair. 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.120 I agree with that in some ways, but then in 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.759 some ways I don't because somebody has invested some money 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.919 and you because they don't usually come back and say 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.759 nothing about the dudes to fail most asks the record 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.520 company sign or failures. I think it's something only maybe 0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.000 one out of every five actually work out, you know 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.000 what I mean? They got more failures in the buildings, 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.040 so they kind of got a overtext the one that 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.480 does that do make it now? Usually after you sacrifice 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.120 that first album kind of and you sell some records, 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.480 you start getting a lot more leverage. But now you're 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:40.200 a bankable artist, right did y'all you guys, I assume 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.120 y'all contract situation after y'all put out East nineteen ainty 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:44.759 nine a termal, I'm pretty sure they went back to 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.560 the drawing board with y'all and figured out some other 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:47.000 shit on it. 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.319 We went back to the drawing boards soon as I 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.960 heard platinum, Like, I was on that, you know, I mean, 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:56.080 because our deal wasn't the greatest, but you know back then. 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.840 Whose deal was hell nobody. 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.000 He was like, I'm gonna give y'all a better deal 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.359 than the dog pound. He like, they getting eight points. 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.040 I'm like, what the fuck is a point? 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.719 You're coming from where I'm coming from, lazy, Like, what 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:12.720 the fuck is the point? 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:12.960 Like? 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.160 How much is that? The dollar size? 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.480 I was a point like. He was like, I'm gonna 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.319 give y'all twelve points. So I'm like, I'm trying to 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.600 figure out what this point is. So I'm like, okay, 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:29.680 twelve percent of one hundred. Yeah, that shit wasn't cool. 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.600 But he put the money up, he put the videos up, 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.040 and I had to explain to my niggas, like, man, 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.480 we need to get in the door because I already 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:41.040 knew because I had I had a situation in Cleveland 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:45.080 that we had I had got fucked in the contract 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:49.719 because the first album we did was called Faces to Death. 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:55.600 It was a Cleveland local project, Dolls Repreation Hermy Henderson 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.480 slew foot fuck face bitch. 0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:05.040 As he Yeah, why do we all got what? Yeah? 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:06.040 He got one. 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.000 I was sixteen, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.359 thinking I'm getting a record deal. This nigga signed us 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.080 to a management deal. We give him a whole album. 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.759 I still I could still sue this dude to this day, 0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:22.840 but it ain't worth it because I don't like the 0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.160 karma he got to deal with that. But you know, 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:31.799 he as a kid, I was already tricked, so I 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.799 already knew when we got to E, Like, I knew 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:38.719 what a renegotiation was, so I'm like soon and then 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.600 when I heard we was plattinum boom. So we went 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:45.239 from a sixteen a twelve point deal to a sixteen 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:49.319 point deal, from sixteen to an eighteen, from eighteen to 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.160 a twenty two. By the time we left Ruthless, we 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.720 was fifty to fifty with them, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:59.319 So it worked out for me. Busy didn't see it 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.479 the same way I saw it, you know what I mean. 0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:06.040 The rest of us saw it like, Okay, we establishing 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.600 something now, we built some now, you know, and we 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.319 was cut from that easy to eat cloth. So it 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:17.279 was like the doors that was open for us was unlimited, 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.800 you know what I mean. So that was the reason 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.520 why we went in and we was we signed the 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.239 first contract because you got to get in the door. Man. 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.680 Once you get past the gate, the gatekeepers, then you 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.480 can probably you know, you can construct your world the 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.319 way fit now y'all. 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.080 Having so many people in the group, man, how hard 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:40.239 was that negotiating man, Because you pretty much got to 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.600 have everybody in the Greens for it to be popping 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:43.520 right right. 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:45.960 So, you know, we used to have this thing called 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.720 majority rule. It's five of us, you know what I'm saying, 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:54.120 So if three niggas was down, then the other two 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.759 had to roll. We lost that along the way, you 0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.800 know what I'm saying, because once everybody he got money, 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.239 it was like, now I'm gonna do what I want 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.640 to do, you know what I mean. But in the beginning, 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:09.479 our little democracy was we're gonna vote if it's three 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:14.000 to two, you know what I mean, George, the majority rule, 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:17.720 And that's how we was able to keep going without 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.440 standing there and just you know, and fighting, fighting, fighting 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.080 and being stagnant. We didn't have to become stagnant because 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.840 we had an uneven number in our group, you know 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.200 what I mean, So it always kept the ball rolling. 0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:32.600 That worked. Man, it had been cool if y'all could 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.520 have saw that, man, Because I'm not gonna lie, and 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:39.759 I ain't saying this. It's no Cleveland stand But when 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.319 I first saw y'all, man, I listened to a lot 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.759 of hip hop music, got no hip hop inside it out, 0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.200 you know, and I'm a fan first, you know what 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:52.439 I mean. I really felt like y'all was so unique, man, 0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.040 and wasn't nobody like y'all. I really say it, man, 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.360 these dudes go fuck around and be like the fucking Beatles, 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.759 a hip hop dog. I really I saw that, man, 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.360 and I think, Man, somewhere along the way, man, like 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.480 you said, the inconsistency started kind of coming in, you know, 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.040 like I would see some crazy records that just didn't 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.440 make sense, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, this 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.719 dude over here doing these records with this dude and 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.480 I black man, the motherfuckers is too big for that. Man, 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:20.080 Where do you think that? 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:20.440 Like? 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.720 Why is it so hard to keep that cohesiveness? 0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:28.080 I mean, you know what I mean, Because Man, when 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:31.680 money come into play, man, niggas just always that man, 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:37.040 you know, because in the beginning, you know what I mean, 0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:41.839 it was like our shit was more control. Like I 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:45.080 worked at KFC, I sold dope, I went to school, 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.600 I set up our talent shows. I did a lot 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.520 of that stuff, you know what I mean. Like, so 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.480 we didn't have a lot of money, but a lot 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.799 of that money came from me, you know what I mean. 0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.440 Like I'm like, all right, so we gotta get our 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.319 fits boom. We just you know, a lot of my 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.359 contribution was to keep the group going. But shit, like 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.880 I said, our first check a piece was eighty thousand 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:15.920 sh That Nigga Busy was with us in Cleveland for 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:19.759 a couple of years. He hated Columbus, you know what 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.200 I mean, That nigga got that check, Nigga, that nigga 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.200 was out, that nigga went straight to Columbus. Were like, 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.719 where's this? You know what I'm saying. But that's what 0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:30.560 money do. It gives you power to do. You don't 0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.040 have to listen, We don't have to sit down and 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.719 mastermind together, you know what I'm saying. Like I got 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.440 my own ideas and then you got other people. They 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:42.840 got ideas that didn't have nothing to do with the 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.720 original idea. And now you over here with two people 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:48.680 in your ear, I got three in mind, and that's 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.640 when the wedges start coming in, you know what I mean. 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.960 But us being family, you know what I mean, we 0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:58.080 kind of leaned on each other. That's why we still 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.520 here today. We was more of family orientated, you know 0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:05.160 what I mean. So when the wedges came down, one 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:08.480 of us always knew, like, oh, we got to pull 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.440 it back together. So if it wasn't me, it was 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:13.759 it was flesh, you know what I'm saying. If it 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.520 wasn't flesh, it was big wish, like the fuck that 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:21.080 we family, you know what I'm saying. So our family aspect, 0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.560 our parents knowing each other and growing up in the 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:29.600 Glenville area together and knowing each other is what helped 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:30.960 us stand the test of time. 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.000 That's a good thing. Is I still see y'all touring, man, 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.480 And like, that's one thing man that always tell artists 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:41.080 y'all might not have had the best contract that first album, though, 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:45.279 but look at what y'all doing. Man, It's thirty years later. 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.640 Man, we're free agents too, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.560 So when we put out some now it's like all 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:52.960 that all that come home exactly. 0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.200 Yoh, y'all about to get the Masters back to him. 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.239 Masters come back year thirty man, and you know it's 0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:01.719 gonna be a beautiful So we got, you know, the 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.560 Masters starting to revert. 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:08.120 Back crazy some ship that we wrote. 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.959 And we did thirty years. 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:13.080 It take us thirty years to own our own ship, 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:14.839 and we made the ship I got. 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:15.120 Damn. 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:19.400 I sat up all night getting high, drinking forty ounces, 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.200 trying to come up with motherfucking shit to write about. 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:26.360 And a nigga just took my ship, right like, nigga, 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:27.240 that's that's mine. 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.240 And they still don't want to give it back. 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:31.560 Yeah, you have to go to court for that. 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:33.840 You gotta you gotta go get. 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.200 A lawyer and go get it, because they'll just keep 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.920 selling it and keep flipping it and going, yeah it's 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:42.160 thirty years later or what, and they'll keep collecting the money. 0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.480 No after I know, after Easy died, man, was it 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.880 a little hard man, Because see, it's one thing when 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.800 you're dealing with a cat that you like and stuff 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.160 may not be all the way right, but that didn't 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.080 gave you opportunity exactly. Then somebody else come in and 0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.400 take over. Was it a lot of little dissension as 0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:58.480 far as dealing with Tamika. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:03.360 I mean it was you know, Uh I said like this. 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.240 So when we was working with Easy Eve when he 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:10.640 was alive, he just put us in the studio and said, y'all, niggas, 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.360 give me, give me an album. He didn't over like, 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.240 look over our shoulder, I want to I want another 0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:20.040 Cross Rolls. You know, all that shit hadn't happened yet. 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.760 So he let us do whatever we want. He let 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.960 us be us, and we came with our ship. By 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:31.840 the time Tamika and Uh and Ryan Swains where all 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:36.920 the other players came into play. When that happened, it 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:41.040 was like they was looking for something, you know what 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:44.439 I'm saying. It's like Tamika wanted to tell us how 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:46.840 to do our record or which record to do, you 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.360 know what I mean. Like, and we didn't have that. 0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:53.560 So we had one hundred freedom with he was alive, 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.760 and then when he wasn't, we had people trying to 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:57.960 tell us how to do our shit. Well, we need 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.320 another Crossrolls or some of the time. So we okay, 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:04.080 we did Crossroads Boom. Now we're gonna give y'all change 0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.320 the world. And now we're gonna get y'all if I 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:09.840 could teach so you know, if you look at our songs, 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:14.439 it's like seven eight them kind of songs of each 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.880 type kind of song. You know what I'm saying, Because 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:22.520 motherfuckers was looking for the next instead of just letting us, just. 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.120 Just letting us create and come up with our own. 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:28.520 Now y'all telling us all, y'all gotta do another Crossroads. 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.480 You gotta give us another hit single. 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:34.040 Didn't know Crossroads was gonna be a hit, So while 0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:35.880 we're chasing that, Yeah, and if you. 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.360 Was being lifted your own device is the first project. 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:41.000 I'll just let y'all keep doing all this. Obviously didn't 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:42.400 know what they're doing. Let's leave him alone. 0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.080 That's what he did. He was like, Okay, I'm gonna 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.520 get y'all niggas some producers. He put us in the 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:56.760 studio with Rhythm D and J Unique, Tony C all 0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.320 these guys. You know what I'm saying. Drake Ghost, we 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:03.360 was all in studio with and he would go hind 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.520 new business. You know, he'd be out there or he'd 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:10.320 have he had his office set up over here. All 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:12.920 the white people coming in and now he ain't, but 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.400 he ain't messed with us. He's like, what y'all, let 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.520 me hear what y'all did, and we'll play it for him, 1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:21.400 and he'd like it or not like it, you know 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:23.520 what I'm saying. But most of the time he liked it. 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:26.480 He was hip hop. Y'all write me a verse, No, 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.640 you gonna write your own shit. He you know what 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:33.280 I'm saying, like his and he he really started like 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:36.200 he was. He was finn to be a bomb member? 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:36.439 Man? 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.680 Is that right on? Everything you see? You see the 1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:42.960 braids to the back, man, you see before he left Earth, man, 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:46.040 he was Nigga was braided up, you know, still in 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.200 the same pendleton wasn't up hot as hell, you know 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:51.880 what I mean. But at the same time, it wasn't 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:55.760 the curl wasn't the curl was going slowly fading out. 1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.120 I mean that Nigga was a that was e bomb. 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.360 That would have been hard dug, that would have been dope. 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.160 It was it was it was happening, man, Like all 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:06.680 that shit happened so fast? 1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:07.840 Did it seems surreal? 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:08.160 Bro? 1:01:08.320 --> 1:01:12.320 Because sometimes even some like sometimes I've had like my 1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:16.240 own incredible moments in life to where sometimes I'd just 1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:18.320 like to slow it down and embrace the moment because 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.240 I'd be like, man, this shit really happening for me 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.680 right like right now? Was it one of those type 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:23.640 of moments with you? 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:26.920 I mean yeah, I mean we we got out to 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:31.360 California November twenty third. We left November twenty third, nineteen 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:35.800 ninety three. Our first shit came out June twenty fourth, 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:40.600 nineteen ninety four, So we didn't hook up with easy 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:45.680 E until after until like February, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:50.760 So February March April May we recorded that all about 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:55.120 fifteen songs. He put that shit out, He took his album. 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:58.000 He was finna put his album out, and if he 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:01.920 hadn't did that, when it never came out, he stopped 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:06.720 his album, put our ship out. And that was ninety four. 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.960 He died in ninety five, so we only knew he 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:11.840 a little over a year. 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:17.080 Wow, changed your life that quick, that quick. It was 1:02:17.160 --> 1:02:19.880 unselfish about it because he said he took he I'm 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:22.040 not gonna put my album on. He was a majoritist. 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.760 Yeah, and then and he had some ship because he 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:28.000 was feeling he wanted the bomber. He was coming on. 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:32.040 He had it for the dog pound. He was coming 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:36.320 for them niggas. But he saw talent though this was 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:41.440 this for me, was solidified him as an executive visionary. 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:45.280 Right that nigga stopped what he was doing and was like, 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.560 I'm gonna put these guys out as executive. 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:54.000 That's a difference between a rap executive and a nigga 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:56.640 who know the vision. Vision like, it ain't about me 1:02:56.800 --> 1:03:00.640 being here. These niggas is gonna surpass me. You get me, 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:03.080 but I need to go there right now. I'm thinking 1:03:03.120 --> 1:03:06.040 like an executive because a normal nigga in that position 1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:10.560 would be like, man, put my record out first. You 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:13.440 got a gang of them, got a gang of niggas 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:18.040 who call themselves executives. But then they don't think like that. 1:03:18.040 --> 1:03:21.480 That's why the careers and the successes of their artists 1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:25.840 don't climb past the motherfucking ant hell because they don't 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:29.800 see the vision of going. Man, these niggas is finna 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:32.880 be way larger than how you get me. So let 1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:35.760 me stop my shit. U Let's shoot that shit right here. 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:38.120 That was smart. You get me, But like you said, 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:41.040 he was a real executive and shit, you feel me. 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:44.240 He learned that from being a street hustler. You feel 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:46.880 me like, I know what, I know what works are 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:49.160 not gonna work. I'm not gonna waste my time with 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.400 this sack when I know I can get bigger money 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:52.600 over here. You feel me. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:56.240 He's putting out nw A but still got the where 1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:59.720 with thor to put out jj FAD exactly. 1:04:00.160 --> 1:04:00.360 Yeah. 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:02.959 J J FAV was this first platinum althum I believe, 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:03.400 wasn't it? 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:03.640 Man? 1:04:03.760 --> 1:04:06.120 I mean he had all the nigga had at a 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.760 group called at band Klan with Will I Am when 1:04:08.760 --> 1:04:12.000 we first came out here. So he had this nigga 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:15.960 had all kind of weird artists like he was really 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:19.480 like he was on. He was, he was that. I 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:23.120 wanted to be that, like, yeah, I'm a. 1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:24.400 Real record fucking label. 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:28.520 Yeah, like man, like that's what I wanted to be. 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:31.640 Because y'all was the most important group at that label 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:34.240 at that time. Because you gotta remember Dre had left 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:36.800 and they was over there doing their thing. When you know, 1:04:36.920 --> 1:04:39.000 death Row came. They were smashing you know what I mean, 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.800 they were smashing everything. They was dropping with solid right 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:46.640 and he dropped y'all and y'all was that meiga time bomb? 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:48.960 It was like, yeah, that, for the love of money, 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:49.920 was killer, you know what. 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:51.640 I'm saying that, And that was like I was like this, 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:53.680 you know, I was around here. She'sing like a mother 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:55.720 for you know, every time a Cleveland nigga do something else, 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:58.160 I'm like, yeah, y'all, nigga, see, don't start trying to 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:00.840 bite the army swag either, nigga. And they from the 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:02.360 motherfucking part section of the town. 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:02.800 I'm from. 1:05:02.840 --> 1:05:03.720 Two niggas home. 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:07.800 He was watching Drew Carry Man, stop playing. 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:15.560 I fuck with Drew Carrey Carry. 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:16.320 On the east side, Yeah, just downtown. 1:05:16.680 --> 1:05:18.600 Well, yeah, Drew Carry used to suck me and Drew 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:24.680 Carrey used to hustle together. Carry had a sec God, 1:05:24.760 --> 1:05:26.360 nig can tell her to put you all. The price 1:05:26.480 --> 1:05:28.680 is right there, bigger ship. You try to get all. 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:33.400 Drew Carry sold my first zone, the stuff and stuff 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:37.600 in front of me, my first zone. You know. But man, 1:05:37.680 --> 1:05:43.720 you know what dog the thing is when y'all came out, Man, 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:46.640 the thing I liked too is that y'all didn't get 1:05:46.720 --> 1:05:49.600 too heavily invested in the It was all about music 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:52.560 because at that time Ruthless was firing back with music. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:54.760 But when Easy did drop this ship, it was impactful. 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.760 Know we we and I could speak on like, even 1:05:58.800 --> 1:06:01.760 coming from the West Coast, we banged some We banged 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:05.440 some bone even like the thuggish Ruggish man. We banged 1:06:05.480 --> 1:06:08.480 all y'all ship from the beginning. So it was just 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:12.720 it was it was just different. It was then as 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:15.080 far as hip hop was concerned. You know, you had 1:06:15.120 --> 1:06:17.920 an East coast ship and then you know, the West 1:06:17.920 --> 1:06:19.280 coast we had our ship. 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:22.360 But it was it was something different. Man, I'm gonna 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.280 tell you something. I'm gonna tell you a no offense 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:27.200 because some of y'all niggas at my homies, but when 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:31.520 something new comes, here come the slew of poor man imitations. 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.720 It was like a bunch of fake bone troops that 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:36.840 came out after that. Man, everybody just thought it was 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:39.360 about and we were so cold. Some of them dudes 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:42.600 was just mumbling they didn't have the Kate and sy right, 1:06:42.680 --> 1:06:44.840 you know what I'm saying. They wasn't incorporating the melodies 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:46.439 and stuff. They was just on that pretty much. 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:53.200 You know, I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though, 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:57.880 because it's like and then and then I really recognized 1:06:57.920 --> 1:07:01.800 the pattern of how in the street do you you 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:05.120 know what I mean? Like, but I recognized it watching 1:07:05.240 --> 1:07:09.080 Little Wayne though. It was like when Little Wayne hit Bying, 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:13.120 that nigga blew up like by itself with everybody had 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:15.720 to sound like Little Wayne, you know what I mean. 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.440 But that's how they did bomb But I was in it. 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:21.720 I really couldn't. I couldn't step out and see what 1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:22.560 was going on. 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:25.120 It got real corny for a minute though. 1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:27.920 I had to look in hindsight, you know what I mean. Like, 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:33.000 But yeah, niggas like a thousand niggas, like every record label, 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:38.280 like when Easy Easy E died, Man, everybody tried to 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:42.280 steal boonb Thugs in Harmony from Ruthless Records. We was 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:43.800 just loyal, you know what I mean? 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:45.880 Who was the one? I know was somebody that had 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:49.240 to check the heck y'all? Like thinking, like, man, it. 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:52.000 Was only seven majors I've been at. I've been at 1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:54.240 every last one of them, you know what I'm saying. 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:57.640 So they came in, they beating out, beating our door 1:07:57.720 --> 1:07:59.880 down for bomb Thugs and Harmony. That's how I got 1:07:59.880 --> 1:08:02.760 the deal with deaf Jam for Fleshing Bone because he 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:05.400 wasn't signed in the group, you know what I mean. 1:08:05.880 --> 1:08:09.280 And then that's how I was able to parlay the 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:13.360 more thugs shit a relativity because they wanted that bone 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:16.719 thugs in harmony sound, you know what I mean. Like that, 1:08:17.960 --> 1:08:24.439 Now we're talking about influence and the contributions that was 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:29.040 made to this, to this thing we love. We number 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:34.000 twenty one on the Billboard group list right fuck out 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:39.360 of here. Everybody got their hair braided, Everybody changed their 1:08:39.439 --> 1:08:45.080 wrap flow from Mariah Carey to bust Rhymes to name them. 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:52.120 Everybody put a little flow, not everybody, but most of like, 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:55.240 but the contribute, what I'm trying to say is the contribution, 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:59.960 the overall influence, the impact that we brought to the tap. 1:09:00.920 --> 1:09:03.600 The whole industry tried to come behind. We had to 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:10.200 fight the whole industry just to not be drowned out 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:14.720 by them bringing imitators to the table and. 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:16.760 Something y'all brought to the game. I don't know if 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:18.880 you noticed, but like I said, I stay this stuff 1:09:18.960 --> 1:09:26.040 right since y'all came in. It's like the generation this 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:27.960 raised was raised off of y'all that might have been 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.200 little babies and stuff like y'all was almost like the 1:09:31.240 --> 1:09:34.439 Curtis Mayfields that came in, right, A bunch of kids 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:37.360 don't grow up listening to y'all. Not everybody rapping with melodies. Now, 1:09:38.320 --> 1:09:40.880 everybody's rapping with a melody. Now, you almost can't be 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:43.800 a rapper. Now. That's why it's important for rappers like 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:46.479 Scarlett to blow up and with the One Girl, the 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:50.759 big topic girl from Cleveland, because they bring the straight 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:52.800 eggs back to it, like I'm just rapping. I don't 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:56.240 got no melodies in my stuff. But everything since then 1:09:56.280 --> 1:09:59.320 it's almost been like a bone knockoff dog. 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:04.360 Yeah, definitely, I mean that that was our contribution. Like Wes, 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:05.960 I used to be man, I used to look at 1:10:06.040 --> 1:10:08.599 those lists like, man, they don't give us our props, 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:12.160 but it really don't even matter no more than because 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:16.639 you know, we know, like just to look if I 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:19.240 turn on the radio and be like, no, I had 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:22.880 something to do, just to just to know, like the 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:25.280 West the way, the West the way n w A 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:29.640 and y'all influenced the game with gangster rap music, you 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:31.360 know what I mean. That's how I feel like our 1:10:31.439 --> 1:10:36.080 melodies had an impact, like to that degree. 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:38.320 You know, when I hear a gang nigga saying jia 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:42.439 on records, you get me, you feel me all. I 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:46.679 don't look at it as damn man. All these famous 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:51.799 ass Maya motherfuckers be saying jeer and knock one nigga 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:55.479 will come out and say, I ain't gonna lie. First 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:58.080 person I ever heard say that was eight. You know. 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:02.240 Niggas be like, oh shit, I just started saying it. 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:05.040 You get me. I don't look at it as I'll 1:11:05.120 --> 1:11:07.439 just be like, you know something, I know where it 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:10.800 started from. I mean, and if niggas, if you look 1:11:10.920 --> 1:11:15.080 back and check their history from from eighty seven on, 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:17.960 I was you know what I'm saying. So everybody came 1:11:18.040 --> 1:11:20.640 after that it was influenced by it. And if you 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:24.040 was influenced by it, cool, I'm I'm glad you used it. 1:11:24.080 --> 1:11:28.200 We said that shit nigga like you, but we knew where. 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:29.760 We knew where it came from. 1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:32.759 Some people look some people like, oh yeah, I know, nigga, 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:35.360 that's MC eight all day. And then there's some dude 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:39.800 who be like, I don't say nothing about it. It 1:11:39.880 --> 1:11:41.000 is what it is, and. 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:42.840 I don't want to sound like I'm dissing nobody, so 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:46.320 please don't nobody take because I think brothers do what 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:48.640 they gotta do to get opportunities. And these labels they 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:50.760 saw y'all were successful, so obviously it was like, we 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:53.519 need to find we need to find us bone Thugs 1:11:53.560 --> 1:11:55.559 Harmony because I know at one time it was a 1:11:55.560 --> 1:11:58.799 prominent Southern rep label that had people on the streets 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:02.760 looking for boones. The likes, yeah, I don't want to, 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:03.120 you know. 1:12:03.160 --> 1:12:08.320 Talk about it, but they copy, they go copy what's popular? 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:12.120 I want to ride what's popular? Movies? Do it all day? 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:16.439 You see a nigga make a movie about Vietnam? How 1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:20.280 many movies different companies that made movies about Vietnam or 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:24.639 spaceships or fucking the president getting killed or whatever. 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:26.320 Everybody wants something that's popular. 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:30.479 Though, if it were ship, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride. 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:33.800 That's how they do it. The world so fat. That's 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:38.679 a motherfucking that's what you call it. What's funny about 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:41.679 boom Man? It's y'all all got all different personalities, right, 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:44.360 because I'm cool with crazy crazy, you know, create a humber, 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:45.519 create real reserve. 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:48.400 He's a quiet dude. You always seem like you was 1:12:48.439 --> 1:12:50.040 a nigga that was out in traffic. I said, that's 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:52.400 the nigga to be out in traffic, probably wiggling with everybody. 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:55.519 Right, you're the one that you're the wiggling. 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:59.400 Which seemed like he can't like the doom you know, 1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:02.360 you know he eat a good at goon. He'd no nonsense. 1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:04.200 Nigga didn't fire on the nigga, you know what I mean. 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:07.599 Flesh seemed like he don't play no type of games, 1:13:07.640 --> 1:13:09.120 you know what I mean. So it's a it's a 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:12.639 certain structure there, but Busy is the wild card. He's 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:16.000 the nigga that's go start a fight somewhere he ain't 1:13:16.000 --> 1:13:19.240 supposed to start a fight at and go talk some shit, 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:20.640 to say some shit he ain't supposed to say. I 1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:22.920 was at the verses, right. I didn't go to the 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:24.760 thing though. I didn't go to the actual verses. I 1:13:24.800 --> 1:13:27.760 was at the hotel. I actually had it is I'm 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:31.280 I'm cool with one of my homeboys. Shout out to 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:33.439 Uncle Beats down with three six, Right, do a lot 1:13:33.439 --> 1:13:34.800 of shit with three six. So I was up there 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:37.920 fucking with crunchy black Uncle Beats. That's my dog, that's 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.240 your boy, that's my nigga right there, you know, shout 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:41.800 out the boy. I was kicking it with you know, 1:13:41.880 --> 1:13:46.040 Lola and the other homie, and we was up there talking. 1:13:46.120 --> 1:13:48.639 They said, why you over here? Still you at Cleveland, nigga? 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:50.759 You came to get some intail for your bone people 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:53.680 because we about to smash him. And they had all 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:57.320 kinds of niggas run through the hotel. I never felt 1:13:57.360 --> 1:13:59.559 like a little kid again though. But when the homies 1:13:59.600 --> 1:14:02.840 eight ball MJG came through that motherfucker and you know 1:14:02.880 --> 1:14:05.920 that nigga mj G. He almost remember that old school 1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:07.800 movie Willie Danna Mike had that nigga walk down the 1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:11.240 stairs at that courthouse. That nigga MJG. Don't touch the 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:13.360 ground when he walked. He really like he really in 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:15.720 character all the time. You know, he coming there, he 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:17.680 got two white girls in his arm. He's skipped up 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:19.400 in that mother for them. I'm like, oh shit, damn 1:14:19.439 --> 1:14:22.280 b MJG. And now I said, y'all niggas just gotta 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:24.360 pull the cheek code out for all the Cleveland niggas. 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:26.760 But they would come by theyself. But then y'all came 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.720 with some surprises. Did you think it was gonna be 1:14:29.800 --> 1:14:31.960 one of the moments, man, when Busy tripped out up there. 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.880 I mean, you always gotta expect something to happen, you 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:38.000 know what I mean, Just like with that whole Bone 1:14:38.040 --> 1:14:41.720 thugs and harmony in three six Mafia. The history is 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:46.400 so rich and the few was so real, you know 1:14:46.439 --> 1:14:50.960 what I mean, Like he had to expect something. I mean, 1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:53.760 but Busy Bone, you know what I mean, that's that's 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:56.920 Busy Bone. You never know that he gonna say something, 1:14:57.000 --> 1:14:58.160 something gonna. 1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:04.200 He motherfuckers to keep playing with me. And I just 1:15:04.240 --> 1:15:07.000 remember Boo going, Busy you a hater? You would hater? 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:07.960 Busy? 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:12.360 Yeah, yeah, there's a piece of boost. Was he a 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:15.599 hater because they was ugly or what? Because he said? 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:21.160 Oh no, I just think that's that's as funny as 1:15:21.160 --> 1:15:21.840 a motherfucker. 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:26.840 Our jokey backstage was like these ugly mother and this 1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:29.280 blurted that ship out. 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:32.160 Was you a hater? Nigga said, you an ugly wild 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:34.400 fucking you Just ship was. 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:36.840 So funny because it seemed like it can't noeork because 1:15:36.840 --> 1:15:38.680 you ain't know if Busy was playing at first, but 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:41.920 then he he was serious than the motherfucker. Yeah, that 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:42.919 nigga is passionate. 1:15:44.120 --> 1:15:48.440 Yeah, I mean it was the words that was exchanged 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:51.800 went too far. You know what I'm saying with the 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:57.000 nigga Juicy J has said was inappropriate because we don't 1:15:57.080 --> 1:16:01.280 play that suck my dig ship. This shit crazy like 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:05.600 when men say that to me and nigga, that's always 1:16:05.680 --> 1:16:06.920 gonna I'm from. 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:09.639 Yeah, I mean that's the thing. But this man from 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:11.360 to a nigga invite me to his dick dog, I 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:12.880 might put my steel on his ass. 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:15.599 Yeah yeah, And that's why that got out of hand 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:18.120 like that, you know what I mean. But you know 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:21.040 what I mean, just and I want to add, you know, 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:23.880 we talked to them, but were probably about to go 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:26.000 on tour. We was about to go on tour with 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:29.479 them right after that until boot pass, you know what 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:32.760 I mean. So they was they was working on that. 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:34.360 So you know what I mean, Like all that shit 1:16:34.479 --> 1:16:40.840 gets squashed, man, misunderstanding heat of the moment, all that testosterone, 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:45.360 all that talent, all that Bravardo up there. 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:46.240 You know what I'm saying. 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:48.360 You gotta expect something to happen. 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.479 Man, it just goes down like that sometimes. Man. One 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:54.439 thing I love about you all niggas though it's no 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.960 matter right or wrong, y'all always unified up in that motherfucker. 1:16:58.040 --> 1:16:59.360 Like you know what I'm saying. I said, Man, they 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:01.320 probably cut that nigga out on the way home, but 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:03.560 they go ride with him. That's how it's supposed to 1:17:03.600 --> 1:17:06.000 because everybody got that one homeboy that's go act up. 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:08.920 Oh definitely, But you gotta ride with him because y'all 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:10.200 been front y'all family. 1:17:10.280 --> 1:17:13.000 I mean thing about it is he ares you know 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:15.759 what I'm saying, So y'all can't touching. 1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:22.880 That's real ship right out, real ship. Let me ask 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:26.960 you this, bro, And you ain't gotta say no names, man, 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:28.800 But did you ever see one of them fake bone 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.760 groups and just laugh, man, and just say this is 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:33.719 the worst shit ever? Like what's the worst copy cops? 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:35.639 What's the worst knockoff? You don't saying? 1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:39.400 Ah, man, it was. It was just one group out 1:17:39.439 --> 1:17:44.160 of New Orleans. Them niggas hated us. We ain't know 1:17:44.200 --> 1:17:46.880 who they was. I didn't even know who they was 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:50.759 til about fifteen years later. Like, but they really wanted 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:53.439 to be bomb. I don't even know their name, but 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:54.479 they know who they are. 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:57.240 Yeah, Yeah, you don't want to get no publicity like that. Man. 1:17:57.240 --> 1:17:59.120 Of course you don't want to give him no puz. 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:00.639 Niggas was weak. You know what I'm saying. 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:03.200 He gave them by saying where they was from. 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:05.280 Ye, the niggas down there, now they gonna take their 1:18:05.280 --> 1:18:08.599 little segment to say, see he was the whole time. 1:18:08.600 --> 1:18:12.640 Already gave him enough lazy boom. We already called them 1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:15.280 where they was from, So now they gonna be feeling good. 1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:17.320 Nigga said what we was from. 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:20.479 Dog Nigga can't never call me no hater man. I 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:25.639 you know I opened doors for niggas exactly like they 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:28.000 can say what they want to say that If that's 1:18:28.000 --> 1:18:30.200 what you got to say about me, you really don't 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:32.800 know me, because you can ask anybody who know me. 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:35.240 You know what I mean, y'all gonna gave it a 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:36.720 lot of cats opportunities though. 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:39.320 Yeah, I mean a whole lot of them because they 1:18:39.400 --> 1:18:41.360 was given to us. You know what I mean. I'm 1:18:41.400 --> 1:18:46.400 a nigga Cleveland man who would imagine, like you gotta 1:18:46.439 --> 1:18:49.439 think ninety three when y'all put our minutes to society. 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:52.479 You know how much influence that ship was in my life? 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:56.679 You know what I'm saying like y'all like you growing 1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:59.280 up in the hood, that song nigga right there like 1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:02.000 we was. That was the and we was living that 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:06.559 when we left Cleveland, we was living that like. So 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:10.720 the opportunity was provided to us for us to meet 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:15.559 Easy Eat from Cleveland. You look to the bride, this 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:20.120 nigga drive and I'm shotgun looking like this easy motherfucking Eat. 1:19:20.680 --> 1:19:22.480 It's one of the moments I talk about. 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:26.000 One time, like when we first seeing y'all all, y'all 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:28.719 like nigga we on the West cause we're seeing y'all though, 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:31.320 but we're just seeing y'all in the movie. So that 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:36.840 and that was unheard of Cleveland nigga like movies and 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:39.519 like that shit was a dream, you know what I'm 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:43.400 so we was afforded them opportunities, so I try to 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:45.920 give it back sometimes though, Bro, you don't see it 1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:47.720 like you ever bring one of the homies from back 1:19:47.720 --> 1:19:49.400 of the crib out here though, and just let them 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:51.200 hang out, like you know, you got them homies. 1:19:51.200 --> 1:19:53.720 They ain't got no interest in being the entertainment. They 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:56.000 just steal your It's still some niggas like that out 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.760 there that just go always be your nigga, your same nigga. No, 1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:00.800 I don't want to do nothing. You ain't gotta give 1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:02.400 me nothing, but I'm gonna come out of fuck with you. 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:04.320 And they get out here and get to seeing this 1:20:04.360 --> 1:20:06.160 shit to be like, man, that was such and such. 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:08.599 I bought my homeboy Tad out here a few weeks ago, 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:10.639 and he was like, niggas, you just really know all 1:20:10.640 --> 1:20:12.960 these niggas, don't you just floating around like they said 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:16.080 it was regular niggas though they people just like you 1:20:16.200 --> 1:20:17.439 and niggas just make music. 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:20.479 I just tell him, like, you see why I'm in 1:20:20.520 --> 1:20:22.880 California because this is where they at. 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:26.400 Nigga, Yeah, because it damn she ain't going down to Cleveland. Man, 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:29.320 But man, I know I ain't asked you nowhere. I 1:20:29.439 --> 1:20:31.519 just didn't want to rehash a bunch of the same shit. 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:34.120 Man that sometimes people get you all in these interviews. 1:20:34.120 --> 1:20:36.080 Bad y'all the dumbest shit dog in the world. 1:20:36.320 --> 1:20:38.880 Yeah, that and I hate them type of motherfucking in. 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.120 It's like they just trying to reach instead of having 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.280 the conversation and letting the shit be natural, They're trying 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.840 to add. So, man, did you walk in on such 1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:47.720 and sex when they was doing this and that, you know, 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:50.000 they just want to come out the bat with some bullshit. 1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:51.240 Exactly. 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:54.240 Yeah, I think I think this, you know, the conversation 1:20:54.920 --> 1:20:57.080 of just real niggas. Cond We just try. 1:20:57.000 --> 1:20:59.679 To talk and conversate with niggas and get a little 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.879 in it, like get a people a little insight about 1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:07.120 you know, how it was, and just real shit, you 1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:09.480 know what I'm saying. Because people look for red realism. 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.680 You know, you come from these places. They just want 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:15.679 to hear a little a little bit of history about 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:20.400 the same struggle, the same struggle. Yeah, and hopefully motivation. 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:23.280 That's to an average nigga. Like you said, we get 1:21:23.400 --> 1:21:27.200 niggas who listen to us truck drivers motherfuckers who just 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:30.760 be chilling. They just want to hear that motherfuckers is 1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:34.160 normal motherfuckers sometimes, yeah, and hear your perspective on stuff 1:21:34.200 --> 1:21:36.599 exactly a lot of time niggas don't want to hear 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:41.120 like you got a problem with this motherfucker, this conspiracy 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:44.200 that happened, or we heard this or we heard man, 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:46.640 don't I don't like to do that. That's something I 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:49.519 used to tell still about, Like we just got to 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:52.599 talk to niggas about and if if it's a connection 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:54.920 to the street, you know what I'm saying, we as 1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:59.960 we as as grown motherfuckers, know how to conversate without 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:04.640 having to dig into controversy and bullshit to a to 1:22:04.680 --> 1:22:07.240 a please a certain narrative. 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:09.519 You tell you that right now? You know one thing 1:22:09.560 --> 1:22:12.920 I did want to ask you, though, Dog, They had 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:17.120 been talking about these rich white folks, these rich folks 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:18.880 that went to the bottom of the oceland. They went 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:21.479 deeper than where the whale was going, and that just 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:24.360 really governed the news right for most of the week. Right, 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:27.479 But you had all these girls missing in Cleveland, right. 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:33.120 If you notice is a pattern? Man, if we not 1:22:33.240 --> 1:22:35.320 care for dog, they gonna fuck around, try to wipe 1:22:35.360 --> 1:22:37.920 us out one again, because it's all these and they 1:22:38.040 --> 1:22:39.519 not just doing it to the black girls, but they 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:45.240 doing to the Mexican girls. Gang of young ladies missing 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:48.439 from Mexico, right, gang of little girls man between nine 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:50.719 and fourteen, that was you know, coming across the border, 1:22:50.880 --> 1:22:54.920 just disappear, right, Same thing happened in Cleveland, same thing 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.080 happened in Atlanta. Now you notice a pattern, man, anybody 1:22:58.200 --> 1:23:03.520 they deem is being indispending, You're easily dispensable. They like disappearing. 1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:03.840 Dog. 1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:06.639 I think it's something behind that shit, bro. 1:23:08.600 --> 1:23:13.679 I mean, you know, I'm just gonna say, Man, America, Man, 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.479 this is America. 1:23:14.960 --> 1:23:17.240 You know where yeah, where the government is set up. 1:23:17.240 --> 1:23:19.920 And the ship you see, I mean, they give you 1:23:20.000 --> 1:23:23.880 clues to ship. And we done see enough ship on 1:23:24.040 --> 1:23:28.080 TVs and the news and conspiracy theories and movies and 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.759 all to know it's ship that goes down. 1:23:32.040 --> 1:23:35.479 Yeah, the biggest cons want to cover it up. 1:23:35.560 --> 1:23:37.800 It's ship that they get. 1:23:37.479 --> 1:23:40.599 It's just if you ever notice, door bro, and check 1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:42.639 this out, both of y'all, if you ever notice when 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:45.439 it be some shit deep going down like that, it's 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:48.880 always something crazy to happen, like a mass shooting, like 1:23:48.960 --> 1:23:51.760 something just crazy happening. It's almost like a distraction, like 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:54.360 you know what I mean, It's like they put out 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:57.760 all of these distractions man, the media and all that stuff. Right, 1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:00.640 they put all these distractions out there to distract you 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:03.160 from the ship that's real, right. They don't show you 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:05.240 about these folks. Don't jump in the boat, you know. 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:07.280 I mean niggas down the water every day, my nigga, 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:07.880 that they don't the. 1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:12.800 News don't cover right, So look that the submarine thing happened, right, 1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:17.560 all that, all that coverage, all that media coverage, coverage, coverage, coverage, 1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:20.320 but they didn't tell you so it was. It was 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:27.720 a boat carrying like seeople seven people. Yeah people, they 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.519 only saved like a hundred of them. But they ain't 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:33.479 talk about that. Why because they brown people. 1:24:33.600 --> 1:24:36.880 Man. Yeah, it's like anybody, I mean, anybody that's not 1:24:36.960 --> 1:24:38.120 of importance to them. 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:38.320 Bro. 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:40.760 They feel like they can get away with it all 1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:45.840 most and sometimes they hide stuff in plain sight. Like 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:47.640 they've been talking. I know you don't like shit, like, 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:51.000 but I gotta talk about this is real they're talking about. 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:54.080 It's a moon. They don't found another moon that's been 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:56.840 following the Earth for the last thousand years, right, and 1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:58.719 you just discovered it? How you know it's been following 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:00.240 the Earth for a thousand years? Then if you just 1:25:00.280 --> 1:25:02.200 discovered it, right. 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.920 Man, I don't believe no motherfuckers still walking. 1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:07.280 On the moon, you know what I mean. 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:10.759 I always look at that picture they showed ers in school. 1:25:10.800 --> 1:25:13.320 They put the flag in the moon. Is it any 1:25:13.400 --> 1:25:17.120 oxygen on the moon? How's the motherfucking flag floating? 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:19.479 That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of little stuff 1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:23.360 like you know what I'm saying, like. 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:25.040 The moon high fuck with that ship, man ain't doing 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:30.280 because like I said, when it comes to this thing 1:25:30.520 --> 1:25:36.680 that we call the government and presidents and fucking congressmen 1:25:36.800 --> 1:25:42.439 and ship, that's another world that that we know nothing. 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.599 When you be seeing all these motherfucking shows and secret 1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:51.439 layers and project xes and all this shit. Motherfucker, they 1:25:51.439 --> 1:25:54.240 ain't showing you that ship for nothing, So you could 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:56.759 be you would be a damn food to believe half 1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:59.479 the ship they tell you in the news, because it's 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:03.960 all too it's all to pull the wall over your 1:26:04.040 --> 1:26:06.559 eyes or to switch and root tactic you like if 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:09.200 you ain't started playing the game and shit and if 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.160 you ain't paying attention or nigga. 1:26:11.240 --> 1:26:14.439 Move the shell game like But like you said, though, bro, 1:26:14.600 --> 1:26:18.360 a lot of people don't have the cognitive skills to 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:23.080 understand like, ain't no, how's the flag just waving like that? Right? 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:25.360 You feel what I'm saying, how's the flag waving? So 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:27.840 you got this other thing And then they said that 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.280 there was a big ass they've been talking about. It's 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:32.439 a spaceship or something up there. But I'm gonna tell you, 1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:36.040 like this bro. It's so much shit that they hired 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:37.960 for much Dog. I think if they did tell us 1:26:37.960 --> 1:26:40.240 the truth, Dog would probably be mass chaos out here. 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:40.880 Dog in the world. 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:43.439 We barely hanging on by a thread anyway. 1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:47.200 Dog, it's gonna be mass chaos anyway. 1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:49.439 Yeah, because they created yeah. 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:51.720 You know what I mean, because they want to depopularize 1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:54.599 the earth. They wanted you know what I mean, They 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:58.000 want as less people as possible. 1:26:58.880 --> 1:27:01.559 Like they a's gonna be here the monitory. They don't 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:03.240 care the dog. I'm gonna tell you something what I 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:07.040 notice about white folks. I got a homeboy, right, cool dude. 1:27:07.080 --> 1:27:09.560 Me and his son played football together. He's a billionaire. 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:12.280 Doront flew on his jet with him and everything else. 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:15.960 Like that cool dude. He owns the brewery. Have you 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:17.800 ever seen that brewery that's on the two team to 1:27:17.880 --> 1:27:20.040 sixty Freeway. It's like on the two team to six 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:23.640 or five. Yeah, the Midder Brewing Company. He owns that 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:26.200 land right there, right, and he was saying, yeah, their 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:28.240 lease is up. I'm about to you know, I'm about 1:27:28.240 --> 1:27:30.559 to probably sign them into another seventy five year lease. 1:27:31.040 --> 1:27:33.880 And this dude like sixty five Dog, I'm thinking, I'm like, man, 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:35.720 you doing that bus. You ain't gonna be He said no, 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:39.799 But my grandchildren be here, my great them folks playing 1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:43.160 the head dog. They playing. We sitting up here thinking 1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:45.680 about what we go do tomorrow? Might the guy them 1:27:45.800 --> 1:27:48.240 dudes is playing in thirty forty fifty years ahead in 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:51.479 some cases and got their step. They're making sure that 1:27:51.720 --> 1:27:54.680 poverty never touches no part of their family. 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:57.400 Unless it's kind of hard for our motherfucker who's struggling 1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:02.400 every day on the day today to year's. I might 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:04.760 not be here two days from now. But that's what 1:28:04.800 --> 1:28:07.799 I'm different for a motherfucker who's been handed a billion 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:10.960 dollar company from the time he was a fucking toddler 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:14.080 or some shit like that. That's the difference in People 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:17.920 want you to be able to think on the same aspect. 1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:22.040 But nigga, shit, I'm struggling to put fucking food on 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:22.479 the table. 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:25.920 Thing about this dude, though, he what's funny is he 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:29.240 I think got his ged. He's not no college. He's 1:28:29.240 --> 1:28:31.559 a dude from New Jersey. That's how I mean him 1:28:31.560 --> 1:28:34.639 got cool. He just the fear of poverty kept him going. 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:37.040 He had to help have somebody to help him out 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:39.880 to get into real estate, right, and he owns all 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.960 his property and stuff now. But I was just looking 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:44.880 at the way he maneuvered Dog in that Cavt conversation 1:28:44.960 --> 1:28:47.040 with him kind of changed my perspective on a lot 1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:47.479 of things. 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.640 Ain't that crazy? And how you just said it. His 1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:56.040 fear of poverty and his ambition. Somebody saw that and 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:58.880 they fronted him to be able to do what he do. 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:00.000 Run him, yep. 1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:02.120 I mean, times a nigga gonna do that for you. 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:04.280 Oh man, it never happened. We got a lot of 1:29:04.280 --> 1:29:05.280 geniuses in the hood. 1:29:05.320 --> 1:29:08.800 Now, Times a nigga gonna see your potential and really go, 1:29:09.160 --> 1:29:12.360 you know something, I'm finna give you this five million 1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:16.360 and let you take off because I know twenty years 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:19.679 from now you're finna be this motherfucker that we don't 1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:21.800 get motherfuckers to do like that for us. 1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:24.479 Oh, No, Dog is big at me because Aniga been 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:29.000 conditioned with that, that slave mentality to wear nobody on. 1:29:29.160 --> 1:29:31.120 You don't want to see the next nigga get. 1:29:31.040 --> 1:29:33.960 A few easy did it for y'all? It wasn't no 1:29:34.600 --> 1:29:40.880 white motherfucking It wasn't Sony or Universal or whatever easy said, 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:44.240 you know something, you feel me, But how many niggas 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:48.280 really go you give me? Are steal your ideas cracking? 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.080 Let me front you this million dollars and let you 1:29:51.120 --> 1:29:51.759 get it going. 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:55.200 Leg. I'm gonna tell you something right now, Dog, I 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:56.479 don't like to brag a lot. 1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:56.760 Dog. 1:29:56.920 --> 1:29:58.840 I don't do this. I don't say this nothing to 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:05.280 be bragging. Dog. But we gave we helped launch math Off. 1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:10.600 Who else we don't have. Man, it don't been so 1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:14.000 many big podcast dog that I initially have my hand 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:16.800 in and gave them. They send off and they went 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:20.000 on to become successful podcasts. I look at companies Dogs, 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.679 Some of these guys they go get five or six 1:30:22.760 --> 1:30:25.000 million dollars in funding, twelve and sex sus give them 1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:26.720 some money. I be like, Man, these niggas ain't deod 1:30:26.760 --> 1:30:29.000 half the shit I did, dog, and they gonna give 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:30.880 them some money. Everything I don't did just done been 1:30:30.960 --> 1:30:32.679 off the monkey help. So you know, like he said, 1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:35.240 with the shelves and the motherfucking thing, I'm gonna make 1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:38.160 some shit happen. Dog, we don't get them same opportunities. 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:38.439 Dog. 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:41.360 So I'm glad to see brothers like you. When y'all 1:30:41.360 --> 1:30:43.439 do get in positioned. Man, y'all do go back and 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:45.920 try to that lift some brothers up, you know what 1:30:45.920 --> 1:30:48.720 I mean? And I wish our brothers would appreciate that 1:30:48.840 --> 1:30:52.240 more when they do get that lift up off the ground, 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:55.400 because you could pick any number of people to get that. 1:30:55.680 --> 1:30:57.880 They've been chosen though, so they got to represent so 1:30:58.000 --> 1:30:59.599 they can go back and get somebody, because you can't 1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:02.240 even drag everybody on the building by yourself. But if 1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:04.599 you get if you pull ten people up and they 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:06.880 go get another ten people and eventually everybody go get 1:31:06.960 --> 1:31:09.800 up there, right. You know what I'm saying. You know 1:31:09.840 --> 1:31:11.720 what I'm saying. So what you got? What you got? 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:12.320 Cracking out? 1:31:12.320 --> 1:31:12.559 Dog? 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:14.240 What you got you about to blast off with? 1:31:14.640 --> 1:31:16.920 I got a little free mix tape, man. I just, 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:20.760 you know, was exercising my lyrical skills a little bit, 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:24.439 and uh just put out a little mixtape car Too Easy, 1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:27.080 you know. I mean. It's a little mixtape of where 1:31:27.800 --> 1:31:31.800 I took songs that artists been paying homage to bomb 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:34.479 Thus in harmony, you know what I mean. So, and 1:31:34.479 --> 1:31:36.880 it's artists that I would like to work with as well. 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:39.120 So what I did was took the songs that they 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:42.360 took from us, put new verses on they shit, and 1:31:42.720 --> 1:31:45.200 that's you know what I'm saying, And just to let 1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:49.040 people know that, you know, I'm still, I'm still you know. 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.679 Rapping is is my love, you know what I mean, 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:56.640 Like putting them words together, telling the story. I love that, 1:31:56.760 --> 1:31:58.880 you know what I mean. So I got the mixtape, man, 1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:01.800 and that's something for free from my fans. You can 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:06.200 download that on live mixtapes dot com, you know what 1:32:06.240 --> 1:32:08.240 I mean. But I got an album coming out too, 1:32:08.400 --> 1:32:12.479 called Hypnotic Rhythms, you know what I mean. So Hypnotic Rhythms. 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:16.599 My first single was called Pillar and that'll be out 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:19.479 later this summer, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:23.840 doing that man. Harmony House Entertainment. My girl got her 1:32:23.920 --> 1:32:27.120 podcast that's about to come out called Tipping with Tiny. 1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:31.439 That's hard, Yeah, Tipping with Tiny and Minds is Lounging 1:32:31.520 --> 1:32:34.000 with Lazy. So we do a little partnership with that 1:32:34.080 --> 1:32:37.479 and kind of intertwined with each other sometimes on that, 1:32:37.600 --> 1:32:41.120 you know what I mean. Man, My kids, you know, 1:32:41.160 --> 1:32:43.920 we talked about the kids. They doing music. You know, 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:47.840 I'm just getting ready for this thirty year anniversary. For 1:32:47.960 --> 1:32:50.960 Bone Thugs and Harmony ninety fours the thirtieth year. 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:53.920 Man, we need that movie though. We need a Bone 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.400 Thugs movie though. We need to actually MC eight fucking 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:59.080 movie too, though. It's so many incredible stories and hip 1:32:59.120 --> 1:32:59.680 hop dog that. 1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:03.320 Can be man, Man, it'll be an Honor eight n 1:33:03.439 --> 1:33:03.960 R movie. 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:07.120 Oh yeah, definitely, I'm with the part. Definitely, you know 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:10.080 what I'm saying. So play me a little easy or something. 1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:11.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:14.680 Doing the bio pic you know, in our movie is 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:18.640 basically an aliu from the NWA movie. 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:21.879 Is one being It is one in production right now. 1:33:23.240 --> 1:33:26.439 Not in production, but the writing part of right. 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:28.599 Oh that's dope, man, Okay, that's cracking. 1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:32.800 So the idea of the bio pick it pick up 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:35.599 where NWA left off at. You know what I'm saying. 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:41.040 If you all remember in the movie, DJ Yeller was 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:44.799 giving Easy the mixtape he was giving him East nineteen 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:49.240 ninety ninety times. He died before he heard the finished tape. 1:33:50.000 --> 1:33:54.240 So at the end of that movie, when he passed away, 1:33:54.920 --> 1:33:59.240 he was let the East nineteen ninety nine Eternal album 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:03.000 was sitting right on his desk that he never got 1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:05.599 to hear you know what I'm saying. So that's how 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:07.880 we pick it up. That's that's the alley. Oop. I 1:34:07.920 --> 1:34:11.080 feel like n w A through us. On the movie side. 1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:14.640 You know, that's hard that their attention to detail was 1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:19.400 like that, dog exactly, that's hard. Dog. I really hope, man, 1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:22.400 because I know that's gonna be a massive movie. Y'all 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:25.599 got a fan based that's incredible. Dog, y'all fan based, 1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:27.559 and y'all fans them type of fans that they'll fight 1:34:27.640 --> 1:34:28.400 for y'all. 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:32.240 Definitely, Man, I definitely appreciate our fans, man. You know, 1:34:32.320 --> 1:34:35.519 the diversity of our fans. It ain't just like a 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:40.679 lot of hip hop artists like it be like black 1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:47.439 or are. We got diverse Mexicans love bone thugs and 1:34:47.920 --> 1:34:53.880 white people love Hispanics, uh man, Asians like our crowd 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:57.160 be so diverse man. And and like you said, they 1:34:57.240 --> 1:34:59.920 gung ho for so we appreciate. 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:03.080 That, y'all. Y'all, y'all hip hop contribution was definitely not 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:09.639 stereotyped to one particular crowd. You can say like y'all 1:35:09.720 --> 1:35:13.640 was one of them international hip hop artists, you feel me? 1:35:13.800 --> 1:35:16.920 So yeah, they have to be able to respect. 1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:19.000 That yeah, dog, you know what one more things. 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:20.920 A lot of niggas who don't make it that far 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:24.920 hip hop game is concerned. Know a lot of them. 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:29.400 You know that niggas who were left underground so to speak, 1:35:29.720 --> 1:35:32.759 so to be able to come from just hip hop 1:35:32.800 --> 1:35:34.840 period and then be able to make it to Like 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:38.360 you said, y'all have probably been some everywhere all around 1:35:38.360 --> 1:35:43.400 the world with this hip hop shit. Yeah, coming from Cleveland, 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:43.960 you know. 1:35:44.360 --> 1:35:46.639 You'h some crazy shit. Though you think about it, y'all 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:52.320 work with Easy, Tupac and Biggie like those are legend. 1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:55.200 Those are like they immortalized now, dog, you know, risk 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:58.160 and peace, but y'all work with all of them. Dog, 1:35:59.800 --> 1:36:01.400 do you ever just sit up in bed at might 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:02.840 be like, can't tell me. 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:07.599 Nigga he was, you know that's that's that's that's part 1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:10.960 of the seal, the deal of the legacy, definitely, you 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.639 know what I'm saying, to have like and for them 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:16.040 to be beefing the way they were, you know what 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:21.559 I mean, for us to not be involved in the 1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:26.040 or dependent all that all the problems they was having. 1:36:26.080 --> 1:36:29.040 It was like being from Cleveland left us mutual right 1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:31.000 in order to man. 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:35.280 Not only that ship y'all. Y'all ship, y'all were protege 1:36:35.280 --> 1:36:39.000 ades the of the Godfather. You feel me. As far 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:43.000 as what we concerned on the West Coast, you get me. 1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:47.439 Everybody has their this is the Godfather or rap or whatever. 1:36:47.479 --> 1:36:49.880 But as far as were concerned on the West Coast, 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.479 with our ship, y'all came from the streets. We came 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:57.160 for Easy. Eas looked at around the world. Is that 1:36:57.360 --> 1:37:02.200 as that motherfucker man? You feel me like Easy opened 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:05.800 the door, not just for for shit. Easy is what 1:37:05.960 --> 1:37:08.920 made me want of motherfucking god. Damn. He is what 1:37:09.120 --> 1:37:13.200 made me go nigga. You could rap about the neighborhood. Oh, 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:16.200 I could rap about the one time and selling crack, 1:37:16.720 --> 1:37:20.160 and I could rap about blasting and claiming the hood. 1:37:20.360 --> 1:37:24.040 Oh my god, you just hope because at that point, 1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:28.080 even though we were street niggas, it was utfo and 1:37:28.200 --> 1:37:31.479 it was you know, it was fun ra. It was 1:37:31.840 --> 1:37:34.519 even though you are nigga coming from the streets. You like, 1:37:35.560 --> 1:37:38.080 I don't do no shit like that, man, So what's 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:39.280 what's my way in? 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:41.200 You're there to wiggle in. 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:44.240 When Easy came with boys in the hood like nigga, 1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:48.760 just nigga, six four's and forty ounces and nigga hold, 1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:52.719 he opened up a whole fucking world for niggas who 1:37:52.760 --> 1:37:57.160 who like I'm not that this is my identity, and 1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:00.519 so he opened that door for to see him. W's 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:04.599 for the bones, for the above, the laws for the man, 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:08.120 A gang of niggas man that street ship for sure. 1:38:08.240 --> 1:38:11.960 Let me ask you this, Lake, y'all ain't never collaborated 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:16.040 with doctor dra Nope, I wonder what ain't happened? 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:16.200 Though. 1:38:16.200 --> 1:38:19.320 I got a couple of tracks from Dre that I 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:22.280 wasn't never able, we wasn't really able to use. But 1:38:24.320 --> 1:38:30.719 Drake thing was when the opportunity was presenting itself, we 1:38:30.760 --> 1:38:33.920 was internally fucked up, you know what I mean, And 1:38:33.960 --> 1:38:36.080 that nigga Dre was like, if I can't have all 1:38:36.160 --> 1:38:39.600 five of y'all, I ain't fucking with y'all. And that 1:38:39.800 --> 1:38:43.120 was that. So hopefully one day he'll get it. I know, 1:38:44.200 --> 1:38:47.599 all of us individually tried to. You know, that's Drake 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:49.880 who don't want to Dre be of course, you know 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:53.519 what I'm saying, Like I see it. Yeah, he like 1:38:53.640 --> 1:38:56.120 all of y'all can't get all that, you know what 1:38:56.160 --> 1:38:59.920 I mean, because we all tried to go individually, but Drake, 1:39:00.479 --> 1:39:02.400 you know the way the word got back to me. 1:39:02.680 --> 1:39:04.800 Like Dre said, if he can't have all y'all in, 1:39:05.000 --> 1:39:06.800 we know, it's it's no point. 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:08.760 We gotta make y'all can't make that happen. 1:39:08.520 --> 1:39:11.000 Though, Shit, what's up? Dre? Holler? 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:15.599 Cold Ship and we need and we need another Bone album? 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:17.320 You know out'll get it cracking. 1:39:18.400 --> 1:39:21.519 One call from Dre, watch how fast all five niggas 1:39:21.520 --> 1:39:22.080 get together? 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:24.080 That would be his story. 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:26.320 That would be some cold ship Dog, and it got 1:39:26.439 --> 1:39:28.320 to happen on that next Bone album, Dog. 1:39:28.280 --> 1:39:30.120 Man, come on, let's preach on that broom. 1:39:30.200 --> 1:39:32.200 What's up with the next Bone album? Dog? When is 1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:34.479 that coming together? Man? We go get just get the 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:37.840 one of the greatest hip hop group of all time, 1:39:37.880 --> 1:39:39.120 the symbol one of the greats. 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:42.080 So the legacy project. Man, we're talking about the h 1:39:42.640 --> 1:39:46.840 a double album, a world tour, we're talking about a 1:39:46.960 --> 1:39:50.920 coffee table book, and we're talking about the bio pic. 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:52.200 Oh yeah, that's cracked. 1:39:52.200 --> 1:39:54.800 You know what I'm saying, four elements, you know what 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:59.000 I mean of the world, wind, fire Water, I. 1:39:58.920 --> 1:40:02.320 Could definitely say if anybody can pull that ship off, 1:40:02.360 --> 1:40:05.400 y'all y'all that y'all, y'all one of them groups. Man, 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:07.360 y'all want them international groups. 1:40:07.360 --> 1:40:11.600 Man, Man, I drop everything I'm doing for an opportunity 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:14.839 to work with Doctor Dre Hell yeah, sure, my niggas 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:15.400 feel the same. 1:40:15.439 --> 1:40:18.800 But you know what those dog, it's a couple of producers. 1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:18.960 Man. 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:22.880 Always thought Bone would be real beastie on. I still 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:25.920 think now y'all should keep I think y'all most impotent 1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:29.479 in Coronation Dog is when y'all were Unique. I think 1:40:29.600 --> 1:40:31.320 Unique got that ship without. 1:40:31.080 --> 1:40:32.040 Chemistry right there. 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:34.400 Yeah, I would like to see him somehow be involved. 1:40:34.760 --> 1:40:36.559 But I would love to see y'all go fuck with 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:40.360 the Justice League, you know, people like that Justice League, 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:43.880 the Timberlain, that stuff would sound crazy. But keep a 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:47.200 cat like Unique over that kind of you know, so 1:40:47.360 --> 1:40:49.240 the form of the all stay the same. You feel 1:40:49.240 --> 1:40:51.160 what I'm saying. So the saft still there? You feel 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:51.559 what I'm saying. 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:56.040 Unique Unique would be the overseer of the music period, 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.360 you know what I mean. But to bring in all 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:01.200 those dude, man, that's a dream come true. That's the 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:02.600 way to close the dope for me. 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:06.240 But y'all deserve that dough Dog y'all motherfucking bone thugs. Normally, 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:08.679 Like I always tell this man one of my things 1:41:08.680 --> 1:41:11.720 for him, I'm like, man, eight, we need to get 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:14.920 you one more major album, my nigga, one more major ones. 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.320 These ones is dope. He drops some incredible material. But 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:20.320 this nigga's nasty now than he was when he first 1:41:20.320 --> 1:41:23.320 came out. You feel what I'm saying, ain't nothing change, 1:41:23.479 --> 1:41:25.759 you know why, just get better with time exactly. 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:28.320 But think about your little brother when you're working on 1:41:28.360 --> 1:41:32.080 that album. That's that's a bucket list right there too, 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:32.800 you know what I mean? 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:35.920 Like that ain't nothing but a conversation dog that. 1:41:36.120 --> 1:41:38.599 Yeah, this dude, man, I just do it for just 1:41:39.800 --> 1:41:41.760 I'm just one of them niggas who came into hip 1:41:41.760 --> 1:41:45.360 hop because I loved it, and I didn't look at 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:48.240 it for you know, the accolades and the and the 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:50.760 fame and the and the money and all of that. 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:53.200 I just wanted to make records, man, you know what 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:56.720 I'm saying. I thought I was gonna still be a 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.760 gang banging, dope dealing nigga on the block. Just I 1:41:59.800 --> 1:42:02.640 was gonna make records and shit, I never looked at 1:42:02.680 --> 1:42:06.000 it as being where a nigga has been or where 1:42:06.120 --> 1:42:10.240 nigga's going to. But you know, we credited, it's been 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:15.799 here for fifty years. I came into the game early, 1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:18.680 and it's just been the love of it, you know 1:42:18.720 --> 1:42:20.800 what I'm saying. So that's what keep a nigga going. 1:42:21.280 --> 1:42:24.599 It's not so much as trying to find that next 1:42:24.600 --> 1:42:29.080 big payday off of hip hop. Is just now with 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:32.360 all that niggas have contributed, just to be able to 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:37.760 be honored and respected as going. Yeah, that nigga was 1:42:38.120 --> 1:42:41.120 you feel me, you know? And sometimes, like you said, 1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:43.920 you see all these lists and you see all these 1:42:43.960 --> 1:42:47.880 motherfuckers with their opinions about who is the greatest and 1:42:47.920 --> 1:42:50.760 who is this and who is that? But how can 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:55.400 that how official can that shit be? Because my idea 1:42:55.439 --> 1:42:58.080 of the greatest might not be yours or might not 1:42:58.200 --> 1:43:01.760 be steals And that's not the discredit to motherfucker, That's 1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:02.759 what the hell, y'all. 1:43:02.600 --> 1:43:07.320 At twenty six, twenty one, twenty one, man, that's way too. 1:43:07.240 --> 1:43:08.599 All the matter of opinion. 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:11.599 But you know what, though, did that come from? Because 1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:13.200 some of these journalists. 1:43:12.720 --> 1:43:16.080 A bro not to cut you off, but who was 1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:19.320 that number one outcast? And no disrespect no, I ain't 1:43:19.600 --> 1:43:23.280 outcast at all, but I listened to more Bone than 1:43:23.320 --> 1:43:27.840 I listened to outcasts. I mean, that's just no disrespect. 1:43:28.360 --> 1:43:33.559 I loved the outcast, but past a certain era, I 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:38.120 didn't listen to outcasts anymore because it just wasn't my flow. 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:41.880 You take their first motherfucking album, banged it all day 1:43:42.080 --> 1:43:42.559 like it was. 1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:43.200 You get me. 1:43:43.720 --> 1:43:47.559 But if you want to compare that to the speaker box, 1:43:47.840 --> 1:43:50.679 you know record, I really didn't bang that as much, 1:43:51.160 --> 1:43:53.600 but you get me. You want to compare that to 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:57.479 bone thugs in harmony, I banged every each nineteen ninety nine, 1:43:57.760 --> 1:43:59.720 but I banged out that month for the war out 1:43:59.800 --> 1:44:00.719 and my mother, we're. 1:44:00.600 --> 1:44:02.519 So cold as my kids is getting hit to that 1:44:02.600 --> 1:44:05.800 now man. My son to play ball, and my son 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:09.120 is the fireman. Man, my oldest son. They come playing 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:10.920 me some of your stuff sometimes, like Dad, what you 1:44:10.960 --> 1:44:14.120 know about this? I'm like, boy, shit down someone. 1:44:14.320 --> 1:44:18.680 I think the younger generation is starting to maybe appreciate 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:24.600 some of the beginnings of hip hop. You hear me, 1:44:24.920 --> 1:44:26.960 because I couldn't get my son to listen to shit 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:29.639 that we played. But just like you said, he'll come 1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:32.240 in here and play some knives he'll play some biggie, 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:35.400 he'll play some of my shit, you know, I guess 1:44:35.400 --> 1:44:38.320 because sometimes the motherfucker need to be refreshed and they 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:41.960 years need to hear you know, quality. 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:45.360 Chris love DJ Quick though like his music, Like Quick said, 1:44:45.720 --> 1:44:49.160 I like Quick got the beats or talk about Quicks 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:51.599 beats and stuff, so he getting hip, but you gotta 1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:54.839 remember for them, that's like us listening to our appearance records, 1:44:54.840 --> 1:44:57.320 like when my mama played Curtis Mayfield in the House 1:44:57.439 --> 1:45:01.000 al Green. I grew up loving that MU two and 1:45:01.080 --> 1:45:05.920 now I probably listened to fifty to fifty nineties hip hop, 1:45:06.120 --> 1:45:08.559 nineties early two thousands hip hop, and more Al Green 1:45:08.640 --> 1:45:10.120 and more oldies than anything else. 1:45:10.840 --> 1:45:13.320 Yeah, me too, I listened to the oldies too. And 1:45:13.439 --> 1:45:15.360 just for the record, if I was making the list, 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:19.200 it'd be run DMC would probably be the first one 1:45:19.240 --> 1:45:19.800 on my list. 1:45:19.840 --> 1:45:22.320 I mean, you were just saying that yesterday. You know what, 1:45:22.479 --> 1:45:25.400 bro I was arguing with the Glasses the other day 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:27.960 because Glass as a baby, you know he you know, 1:45:28.000 --> 1:45:29.560 he a grown man, but he a baby in his 1:45:29.640 --> 1:45:32.800 hip hop stuff. Right. He was trying to argue me 1:45:32.960 --> 1:45:36.040 that l L was way more of a fact than 1:45:36.080 --> 1:45:38.479 run DMC. I said bro l L was the man, 1:45:38.560 --> 1:45:40.559 but he didn't come to the man until after run 1:45:40.600 --> 1:45:44.160 DMC had left the throne almost then. Was the first 1:45:44.160 --> 1:45:46.120 cast that had a shoe deal Dog. They were the 1:45:46.120 --> 1:45:48.519 first ones that had Adidas Deal Dog. They were the 1:45:48.560 --> 1:45:52.200 first ones. They dominated MTV when MTV first came out. 1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:54.200 That Walked This Way record was probably one of the 1:45:54.200 --> 1:45:56.720 biggest records, was the biggest look for hip hop at 1:45:56.760 --> 1:45:59.200 that time, and had that record not been made, hip 1:45:59.280 --> 1:46:01.559 hop probably wouldn't win as far as it did because 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:03.639 to introduced hip hop to mainstream America. 1:46:04.320 --> 1:46:06.960 Glass is my bro too, but I would tell him 1:46:07.200 --> 1:46:14.360 watch Crush Groove. It was just saying run DMC. Them 1:46:14.479 --> 1:46:17.960 was demanded. They was headlining back then. And then LLLL 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:21.599 had to come in with the little Radio Fox, remember 1:46:21.600 --> 1:46:24.280 that ship Fox. He had to. He had to. 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:27.800 That's how russelling Them found ll and signed him to death. 1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:30.679 He had the audition for his that. 1:46:30.640 --> 1:46:35.200 Was basically like his little uh his promo. The Beastie 1:46:35.240 --> 1:46:37.400 Boys was in there siying him to he had I 1:46:37.520 --> 1:46:40.559 needed a beat out. Yeah. They figured, man, what better 1:46:40.600 --> 1:46:44.160 way than to promote our first fucking artists. Yeah, put 1:46:44.200 --> 1:46:49.120 him in the fucking movie. It was brilliant. But run DMC, like, 1:46:50.520 --> 1:46:54.080 you gonna get the argument because it's fifty years and 1:46:54.280 --> 1:46:57.800 you know nowadays they got so many you get me, 1:46:57.920 --> 1:47:01.479 there's so many groups and there's so many, but I 1:47:01.520 --> 1:47:04.280 think you have to give it to run DMC because 1:47:05.920 --> 1:47:11.280 it's like they they they show the motherfucker as far 1:47:11.320 --> 1:47:15.400 as a group is concerned, how you really can make it, 1:47:15.479 --> 1:47:19.720 and they made use the first tough times of him here. Yeah, 1:47:20.040 --> 1:47:24.280 what motherfuckers was like hip hop is this way. 1:47:24.360 --> 1:47:26.519 They only played that ship on Saturdays, and. 1:47:27.439 --> 1:47:31.960 They were able to break down the barriers of being 1:47:32.200 --> 1:47:38.600 able for four niggas like Outcasts and Wou Tang and 1:47:38.760 --> 1:47:42.400 comptence most wanted in n w A. You get me 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:47.160 without them setting the motherfucking path and kicking down the 1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:50.840 doors of the stereotype all of nigga music and he 1:47:51.120 --> 1:47:53.280 thug motherfuckers. 1:47:53.320 --> 1:47:56.120 You gotta understand where hip hop was at the time. Like, 1:47:56.720 --> 1:47:59.240 I don't think n w A got rated nowhere as 1:47:59.320 --> 1:48:00.320 high as they should. 1:48:00.200 --> 1:48:03.040 Dog because they did. Man that they did. 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:06.080 You know, the run n w A down as low 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:09.200 as they did Dog was almost like disrespectful because to me, 1:48:10.080 --> 1:48:12.639 if I'm gonna put the top five together. I'm always 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:15.679 tell people it don't matter where you number that because 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:17.360 I can't say one is great than the others. But 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:20.599 you have to have in your top ten. Man, if 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:27.040 you don't have motherfucking n W A, motherfucking E, P 1:48:27.240 --> 1:48:31.560 M D, right, motherfucking just all those pivotal groups. 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:34.519 Man, boys, boys, all these. 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:37.120 People do because those people are the reason for the season. 1:48:37.400 --> 1:48:39.639 You can't have fucking C and D before A and B. 1:48:39.640 --> 1:48:39.800 Bro. 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:43.880 Well, you know, like them lists that ain't nothing but 1:48:43.960 --> 1:48:45.080 a list. Man, Like. 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:50.160 Yes, run DMC motherfucking thing, you know, even the Wu 1:48:50.240 --> 1:48:52.680 Tang clan. But to me, Bone is worthy of that 1:48:52.800 --> 1:48:58.320 top ten consideration because after you get past all of them, right, 1:48:58.640 --> 1:49:00.760 run dmcas and all them things, you come up into 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:04.400 that early like late nineties. Dog, you got to put 1:49:04.439 --> 1:49:06.680 Bone there because that was like the next evolution of 1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.479 hip hop because it brought a new flow in. Wasn't 1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:12.720 nobody everything was March and the March, and then to 1:49:12.840 --> 1:49:14.720 been the thing that saying with them that came to 1:49:14.760 --> 1:49:19.080 say that's brother, y'all came with them, you know what 1:49:19.120 --> 1:49:21.880 I'm saying. And it was so fresh, but you understood 1:49:21.920 --> 1:49:25.200 everything y'all was saying, and that ship was so dope, dog, 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:28.040 and the music was melodic, you almost smoke. You be 1:49:28.080 --> 1:49:30.759 right down the streets like, well. 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:33.360 All I gotta say, man, is you know we ain't 1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:37.160 done yet, So you know they could, they can, they 1:49:37.160 --> 1:49:42.559 can reserve their opinions for when we're done, because you know, 1:49:42.680 --> 1:49:45.439 to see a list like that make me pick up 1:49:45.479 --> 1:49:48.400 the phone and call my brothers, like, y'all, y'all want 1:49:48.439 --> 1:49:51.240 to show these niggas who do what you know what 1:49:51.280 --> 1:49:53.800 I'm saying. So we ain't done, so they and it 1:49:54.120 --> 1:49:58.000 really don't matter, man. I've been able to take care 1:49:58.040 --> 1:50:00.200 of my family off this whole. 1:50:00.080 --> 1:50:03.000 I say that about all the times I think about 1:50:03.040 --> 1:50:06.400 I got fucked and money stolen and all that shit, 1:50:06.720 --> 1:50:08.320 and at the end of the day, I go, you 1:50:08.360 --> 1:50:14.920 know something, my son going to college. I'm still able 1:50:14.920 --> 1:50:18.160 to wake up every morning and do something that you know, 1:50:18.920 --> 1:50:22.800 I don't regret as far as God damn, I gotta 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:24.960 get up today and I got it. You feel me. 1:50:25.240 --> 1:50:29.960 There's a lot of people who where it's nothing against 1:50:30.000 --> 1:50:33.960 the average motherfucker. There's a lot of motherfuckers who you know, 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:35.920 it's a lot of people who have to get up 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:39.000 and go through that show. Yeah, we blessed me, so 1:50:39.080 --> 1:50:41.360 to be blessed to be able to do something that 1:50:41.400 --> 1:50:46.360 you enjoy and and you know, you get to go 1:50:46.479 --> 1:50:49.840 on trips and you get to meet other people, and 1:50:50.320 --> 1:50:53.440 you know the perks of comes with being an entertainer 1:50:53.560 --> 1:50:56.920 sometimes and you know you wouldn't traded for nothing. So 1:50:57.320 --> 1:51:00.360 we go through the roller coaster rides and sometimes to 1:51:00.400 --> 1:51:04.800 disrespect and sometimes not feeling like motherfuckers, give us all 1:51:04.920 --> 1:51:08.160 props for all what we have done for fucking hip hop. 1:51:08.320 --> 1:51:09.920 But at the end of the day, you go, so. 1:51:10.160 --> 1:51:13.639 I go, you know what, so what right, it's a blessing. 1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:17.240 Yeah, I'm good, you feel me, I'm good, And none 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:18.479 of that shit matters any. 1:51:18.400 --> 1:51:20.040 What they need to do, they need is start coming 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:23.000 to the people really in the coach and asking about 1:51:23.040 --> 1:51:26.080 them list because to me, it would be like somebody 1:51:26.160 --> 1:51:29.200 coming to me asking me to make to create the 1:51:29.240 --> 1:51:32.160 top one hundred oldies of all time. I'm gonna feel like, 1:51:32.160 --> 1:51:33.960 in a way, I'm not qualified. I'm gonna go talk 1:51:34.000 --> 1:51:37.840 to my mama, my pops, my uncles and asked them 1:51:38.080 --> 1:51:39.840 what was going on because I didn't live in that time. 1:51:39.920 --> 1:51:41.719 So some of these little niggas that might be twenty 1:51:41.720 --> 1:51:45.519 twenty one. They don't understand the impact that a bone had, 1:51:45.800 --> 1:51:48.840 or the impact that a Wu tang or run DMC 1:51:48.960 --> 1:51:51.040 for that matter. To them, it's ancient. And I didn't 1:51:51.120 --> 1:51:54.080 realize how old hip hop was. The Glasses told me 1:51:54.120 --> 1:51:56.720 one day because we were talking about sampling, and he said, no, 1:51:56.880 --> 1:51:58.559 big bro, that's too old. You got to go back 1:51:58.600 --> 1:52:01.439 to Warren Z. I said, Warren G and them was 1:52:01.479 --> 1:52:03.360 just Yetter that's biting dog. And I thought about it. 1:52:03.360 --> 1:52:05.360 I said, that shit was twenty five thirty years ago. 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:05.760 Dog. 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:08.920 Yeah, we were sampling the ship out of Roger and them, 1:52:09.000 --> 1:52:11.479 you know what I mean, like it, uh all the 1:52:11.560 --> 1:52:14.880 funk that shit thirty years later, we were sampling them. 1:52:14.960 --> 1:52:17.679 So and that's why I did the mixtape that I did, 1:52:17.720 --> 1:52:20.720 because I wanted the new artists to know that we 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:25.160 appreciate them, you know, going in the crates and find. 1:52:25.960 --> 1:52:28.000 That motherfucker, so I could put it in our description. 1:52:28.160 --> 1:52:28.600 I got you. 1:52:28.720 --> 1:52:31.240 I got put links in the description, man, so we 1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:34.880 don't help you captive here long enough. Man. We appreciate 1:52:34.960 --> 1:52:39.280 y'all hanging out with us once again, right yeah, and hey, 1:52:39.360 --> 1:52:42.640 y'all make sure, man, we gonna put the link to 1:52:42.680 --> 1:52:45.120 that mixtape down there. Man, make sure y'all go bang 1:52:45.240 --> 1:52:48.679 that man and go support that and go flood doctor Drey's. 1:52:48.880 --> 1:52:51.040 I don't know if Trey too rich to fuck with 1:52:51.040 --> 1:52:55.120 Twitter anything. Yeah, playing a staff and ship that. So 1:52:55.200 --> 1:52:57.280 y'all just make sure y'all hit Dre up man telling 1:52:57.320 --> 1:52:59.320 them we need that bone thud collaboration. 1:52:59.439 --> 1:53:02.479 Man, Man, please do you know what I'm saying? Let 1:53:02.520 --> 1:53:04.760 him know, Dre. I'm letting you know right now. Min 1:53:04.880 --> 1:53:08.519 we here, if the opportunity is there, were there? 1:53:09.240 --> 1:53:13.040 Well, yeah, and we gone. Jill Well. 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