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Speaker 3: episode Against the Chronicles podcast. And now I am Big

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Speaker 3: Steel along with my homeboy and today Man, we got

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Speaker 3: from the greatest city on the motherfucking planet, from the

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Speaker 3: city of Cleveland. Man one of the most from one

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Speaker 3: of the most iconic groups of all time. Man don't

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Speaker 3: fucker Homeboy. Lazy Boom from the Almighty Boone Thugs was

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Speaker 3: Man. You know you're from the city, Dog, So I

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Speaker 4: You try to slide some shit in there, Try to

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Speaker 4: slide from city on the nigger hub City nigga, they

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Speaker 3: the Homie Glasses. Without Ohio, it wouldn't be no West

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Speaker 1: Her Man. We got the funk. The funk come from Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Bottom line, the funk come from Ohio, Dog. And we

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Speaker 4: You know, you two hip hop for be right there?

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Speaker 3: Hey man, you know what I'm a brother, just love music.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Cleveland is a singing city. You

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Speaker 3: Nigga exactly, maniggas I came. Man, I ain't lot. Last

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Speaker 3: I love California though, no shit, Ye it's the shit.

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Speaker 4: What's the longest you stayed when you went back home?

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Speaker 3: Yeah man, What made y'all decide to just keep it

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Speaker 3: Yeah for real, man, that's why. So because Cleveland, man

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Speaker 3: We lost the football team, man, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I really cried when that happened, my nigga.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we always hurt, man.

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Speaker 3: I was mad. Then the motherfucker to Browns, and then

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Speaker 1: I was same year year Baltimore won a chat won

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Speaker 3: I felt like that should have been all harsh, like

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Speaker 3: What happened? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something about Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: You as a nigga who was you know from the streets,

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Speaker 3: What happened? Man? I think it's a combination of poverty, man,

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Speaker 3: nonna tell y'all possibly could have got picked up by

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Speaker 1: We had a choice, though, we could have went to

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Speaker 4: We was a coin flipp or was it like that

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Speaker 1: It was y'all nigga. Y'all had this like we was

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because of shit Snoop had

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Speaker 1: We was influenced by everything. But when the West Coast hit,

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Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, you got the same bug I did, man,

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 4: You didn't get the East Coast bug at all.

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Speaker 3: Sted you know what, No, I messed with East Coast

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Speaker 3: music heavy man, But I always saw myself, like I

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Speaker 3: else where it's cold like it. He is here because

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Speaker 3: get some money. Absolutely, you feel what I'm saying. It's like,

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Speaker 3: if I'm gonna go to New York, you fuck around,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather sleep in the car out here. And this

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Speaker 4: So crazy, how something? You know the paths that some

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Speaker 3: But see going to New York. Check this out there.

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Speaker 3: If Primo don't hook up with Guru, he might not

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Speaker 3: very much believe in God, man, and I think sometimes

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Speaker 3: or whatever that was. And you have a choice. Why, Brod,

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Speaker 3: little way out I could have went. My grades is

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Speaker 3: there was fat white girl's dog. No offense to fat

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be waiting out with a gang of pies

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Speaker 4: to throw in your faces.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you know, I want them a little

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Speaker 4: They have healthy females.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And they had some fruit punch and

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Speaker 3: some potato chips on the table and I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: Mant least Cleveland ain't boring. You like it, it's the

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Speaker 4: They had tato chips and.

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Speaker 3: Fruit Yeah, so either I'm gonna pick potato chips and

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Speaker 3: fruit punks. Well, I'm gonna go out there to with

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Speaker 3: I'm going to exacy. They ain't bringing niggas on the

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Speaker 4: You just picked the JC and said, fuck it, I'm

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Speaker 3: Coming to Long b C. And it was the best

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Speaker 3: thing I ever did in my life. Shout out the coach,

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Speaker 3: will Shaw. This man changed my life, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Man changed my life. Man. I wound up

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Speaker 3: doing some incredible things coming to California that I know

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Speaker 3: for sure. Would have been impeded in Cleveland by a

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Speaker 3: number of things. First of all, we got to go

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Speaker 3: sure been selling because all my homeboys went on to

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my nigga, Teddy, he just came home.

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Speaker 3: He was just out of here, the one I brought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, niggas was throwing it away man out there in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: But you know that that state right there, you know

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Speaker 1: So I can blend in so that that that was

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Speaker 4: You know what I thought that, you know, looking at

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Speaker 4: that's bone. Thuh, that's lazy bone. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Them niggas, we know he ain't. We know he ain't

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Speaker 3: The worse than the people they're supposed to love.

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Speaker 1: You man, it was like fifty to fifty. You know

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Speaker 3: They say diddy as nigger.

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Speaker 1: And to this day though, like they it's just born

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Speaker 3: How it was, especially with the busting program even and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a white supremacist thing right across the

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Speaker 3: I had a girl, Becky tell me. She said, Norman,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean they That's that's one thing about

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00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I like it here, you know

432
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you got you got, you got everybody, man,

433
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 1: all this melting pot here California. But that's why people

434
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 1: start migrating West a long time ago. Anywhere.

435
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you can make it.

436
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 4: Man.

437
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 3: The thing is Cleveland, man, Unfortunately, Man is a place

438
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 3: that's marrowed by extreme poverty and the conditions don't make

439
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 3: it no better. You know, you're fighting the bad ass weather, right,

440
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: and then you got to just good old fashioned just haterism. Man,

441
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: it's hard to wear if you a person that don't

442
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: attain a certain thing in your life. You gonna have

443
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: people mad at you for no reason. Man, it felt

444
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 3: like they should have been you, like, like seriously, it's

445
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: the weirdest thing ever.

446
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 4: Bro.

447
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. I got love for

448
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: my city, like I love Cleveland to death. Look my heart,

449
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: that shit rough. We ain't gonna front.

450
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 4: I've done playing these shows in Cleveland.

451
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,479
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, yeah, Cleveland for But Cleveland put something inside

452
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: of you, though. Dog, if you if you a hustler,

453
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland like give a like you just. I don't know

454
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: no niggas, the slackers from Cleveland, anybody I know from Cleveland,

455
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: they trying to get it, man, because they understand what

456
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: poverty is. It's like every day, dog, I don't. I

457
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 3: never allowed myself to get comfortable, no matter how much

458
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: money y'all got in the bank or whatever, because I know,

459
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: with just a few twists and turns, man, you could

460
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 3: be on your ass somewhere. Man, you be right back

461
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,479
Speaker 3: in that motherfucker dog looking at the niggas you went

462
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: to elementary school with.

463
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 4: I think that's any niggas mentality or any person period,

464
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: male or female. Man, if you just born with that,

465
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 4: you know, go get mentality. It's hard to stop trying

466
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: to find the next hustle, you know what I'm saying,

467
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 4: or the next you know, job, or the next come

468
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 4: up or whatever it is. That that's for simple minded

469
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: motherfuckers who are settled with just where I am.

470
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: In old way, you can't you can't never get content. Man.

471
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: You know one thing I wanted to ask you about. Man,

472
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: at the time you came out here with Ruthless, Man,

473
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: your easy was really up close and personal with y'all.

474
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: Did he ever take you to the house in Norwalk? Man?

475
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: That house is legendary. Bro.

476
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: Hey, man, that house is Nordwalk. That's that's where we

477
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: used to go, Like he would have other artists come

478
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: out of town. We was big drinkers, like you know

479
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And he was like, y'all niggas can't

480
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: drink more than these niggas. We'll tear that nigga house up.

481
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: We been that montherfucker drunk. This nigga got eight k's everywhere,

482
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: just you know what I mean. Yeah, but Northwalk that's

483
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: where we used to go get to do what we

484
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do.

485
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ralph the Free where was real? Little key Man

486
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: shot up at the homies skipping twine, Big Twine, Big Twine. Yeah.

487
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 3: They had me over there man, one time when I

488
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 3: never saw I never knew that part of time. You know,

489
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: being a Northwalk you don't think, man, all kind of

490
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: bras over there.

491
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah. Yeah, we used to go over there, man,

492
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: and just like he'll be showing us, that's when I

493
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: over there. That's how we found out he was a

494
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: prankster too, you know what I'm saying. So he would

495
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: show us video tapes of him pranking CPO, and you

496
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: know what i mean. We spent a lot of nights

497
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: in Northwalk, man. That shit was cool.

498
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know what I still think man to

499
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: this day, not to try to hash up no controversy

500
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: or nothing. I don't think the Easy died of age.

501
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: I just don't think he did. I don't believe he did.

502
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 3: I've had family members to suffer from that disease, you know,

503
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: and forces not a lot of them, but I've seen

504
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: people go through that, man, and you just don't go

505
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: to being diagnosed it's for full blown age and never

506
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: had HIV, you know what I'm saying. It was too

507
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 3: much about that, man.

508
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I know one thing in America. We can't put nothing

509
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: past nobody, you know what I'm saying, Like definitely because

510
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 1: if they want you up out of there, like I

511
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: still think, you know, tupacin Biggie situation, when as far

512
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: as it did, because that that boy was so politically

513
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: in his mind where he was going, they probably got

514
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: rid of them niggas. You know what I mean. They

515
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: probably know they know how to get rid of you.

516
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They killed off a whole

517
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: generation of smart men, from Malcolm to Martin.

518
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

519
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: You can't put nothing past you.

520
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: You got to watch yourself.

521
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: And when you start talking about the Malcolm in the

522
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: marks Man, it ain't nothing for them to touch a

523
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: rapper dog, it ain't.

524
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they shut the panthers down, you know what

525
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like infiltrated us, put crack in our neighborhoods,

526
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, got our parents all fucked up.

527
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: Saint God hip hop came along because we would all

528
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: been fucked up.

529
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Man, It'd have been in real

530
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: bad times. Man.

531
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 4: Can you imagine with no hip hop? Well, a lot

532
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 4: of niggas would be right now.

533
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: Man, Man, we would I know I wouldn't be here, man, it'd.

534
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: Be a whole bunch of people in penitentiary. Dog, Yeah,

535
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of kets in the graveyard.

536
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: He's a more dead, lot of more dead niggas, a

537
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: lot of more niggas in the pen you know, because

538
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: it gave even though like I said, it's still connected

539
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: niggas with the streets, it gave a lot of niggas

540
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: an opportunity to change their lives as far as uh

541
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: poverty and the kids and you know, being able to

542
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: be around your children. You know, we we grew up

543
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: a lot of single fathers and shit like that, and

544
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: like you said, a lot of dope was introduced and

545
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: all that shit. So we learned a hard way our generation.

546
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: You know, not that our parents then, you know, you

547
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: got slavery and all that shit that our great grandparents

548
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: and all that had to but going through the gang shit,

549
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: niggas popping at you and trying to sell dope and

550
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 4: taking penitentiary chances, we had some fucked up shit to

551
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: go through too that we had to try to make

552
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: it out of. You feel me. So hip hop did

553
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: that for a lot of niggas, man.

554
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm gonna tell you something, Man, professional athletics

555
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: and music has been the thing for the black community. Man.

556
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: I just want to see a time, man, at where

557
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 3: we start expanding beyond that. Man, Because like I tell everybody,

558
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: when people talk to me about want to do a podcast,

559
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: I said, why don't you want to become a producer.

560
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: Why don't you want to become a person that want

561
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: to learn how to work the cameras, how to edit

562
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: through what the things? It's too many people doing podcasts,

563
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: odds of you breaking into that industry. It's almost like

564
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: the new record deal Dog. Definitely odds. Odds are very

565
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: slim as you ran the label Dog. It's hard. It's

566
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: hard just just to come up in something, man and

567
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: just make millions of dollars. And I think a lot

568
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: of times, man, when you in places like Cleveland, Compton

569
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: and wats because they all the same places, Dog, just

570
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: different climates. I think it's hard for a kid to

571
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: see that because a kid see his mom and daddy

572
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: going to work every day and they still don't got nothing.

573
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: That's not attractive. But you're looking at the dope man

574
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: outside and he got the deep dish datings on his

575
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: ship man, he got a pocket full of money. Man,

576
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: he just looked he looked fresh. Dog.

577
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're twelve years old. We used to play

578
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: that's my car, that's my car. Real, that's my car,

579
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: that's my car.

580
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: That should influenced that. I mean it influenced a lot

581
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: of us who felt like we wanted a better situation

582
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 4: from what we was in. You feel me. I mean

583
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: my pops worked, you feel me. He worked at General Motors,

584
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: went to work nine to five or whatever. Moms did

585
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: the same thing. Shit. We we wasn't living in no

586
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: you know, we didn't have no Mercedes bends in the driveway.

587
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: We had an average car. We didn't live in motherfucking

588
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills or or fucking Baldwin Hills, or even fucking

589
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: Lakewood for that matter. You get me. We lived in

590
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 4: fucking Compton. Not that Compton was bad, because I loved it,

591
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: But that's what, you know, we was faced with. You

592
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. When you turn around and you

593
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: look at the nigga down the street, God damn, this

594
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 4: nig got a brand new motherfucking truck o' goddamn Dayton's

595
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: And wait a minute, the nigga got a lo lo too.

596
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: And then wait a minute, the nigga got this too,

597
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: hood and that too.

598
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: Last summer he was on the bus man.

599
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: The niggas got motherfucking you. You look at that and

600
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 4: be like, well, shit, you're looking at your parents and

601
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: you know it. That's if if you had that motherfucker

602
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: or your hard work mentality, you know, you get what

603
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: you paid you. You know that type of shit. Tell you

604
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: somewhere you looked at the nigga down the street who

605
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: had all this shit, and he was out there on

606
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: the corner pitching. That was your influence. My influence wasn't

607
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: to go punch no motherfucking clock like I saw moms

608
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: and pop slavery. They was coming home with backs hurting

609
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: and knees hurting.

610
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: I tell you right now, dog, I tell my kids

611
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: and people don't misjudge for what I'm about to say,

612
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: because you should take your lazy ass to work to

613
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: provide for your family. But do that while you're building

614
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: towards a dream. I told all my kids, y'all don't

615
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: need to think of getting no jobs. Don't go to school,

616
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: used to get no job because a job it motherfucker.

617
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Let you go at any time. That's almost like a

618
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: sucker bed.

619
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: Almost.

620
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: You work somewhere for all your life, man, and then

621
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: by the time they tell you can retire now to

622
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: retirement age done went up two years every time every

623
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: year since I came out of high school. You can't

624
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: retire to you damn in sixty seven and seventy now,

625
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: so you think about it, you can from work some

626
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: motherfucking place for all your life. Dog at seventy, you

627
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: come home for a few years and you done. Yeah,

628
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: while making another motherfucker rich. Now he don't provide it

629
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: for you know, you got a pay check out of

630
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: that dog. But I just always aspired for more.

631
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: Man.

632
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: I can tell people to find you a telling what

633
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: you're good at. It ain't necessarily gotta beat it, you know, rapper,

634
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: no podcast, no actor or nothing like that. But you

635
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: could beat the nigga that clean cars, the detailed car

636
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: is real good on your own detailed shop. You can't

637
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: never fire yourself, my nigga.

638
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, having that, having that mentality is it's hard for

639
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: a young nigga or a young kid who's eleven or

640
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: twelve coming up in poverty in the struggle. When I'm

641
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: watching the niggas on the block every day, and then

642
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm seeing police shit and I'm seeing niggas get smoked

643
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: from my block. It changes your mentality, you know what

644
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You want to strive for, you know something better.

645
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: But like I tell niggas, you know, as a kid,

646
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: you all you have those dreams you give me. When

647
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: I was a kid, I didn't think I was gonna

648
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: be no rapper, actor, podcast, motherfucker you give me. I

649
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna be like any other typical kid.

650
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm be a policeman, i'ma be a fireman, i'ma be

651
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: a doctor, lawyer, whatever. And then the more you see

652
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: poverty kick in and you like, well, shit, I ain't

653
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: got no new motherfucking nikes own, and moms ain't buying

654
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: me this. And then especially if your parents split and

655
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: now you got single moms at home, and now really

656
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: shit is like low income and shit your aspects of

657
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: like nigga, I ain't finna be no motherfucking doctor or lawyer. Shit,

658
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: I'm barely finna make it out. The nigga niggas down

659
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: the street shooting every night. Who says I'm finna make

660
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: it out of here, and then next thing, you know,

661
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: you claiming the hood and then you running in with

662
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: the police every day. Nigga. I'm like, nigga, I'm gonna

663
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: be in praison some fucking well.

664
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you who the influences are now.

665
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: When we was kids, it used to be the dude

666
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: down the block, you know that hustles over with. Now

667
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: that's gone, right, I'm gonna tell you what it is now.

668
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 3: The rappers that they see on TV, the images that

669
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: these cats portray, and it's real destructive because a lot

670
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: of these rappers don't have the money that they claim,

671
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: especially not the new ones just come in the game.

672
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: You've living off of advance, bro, and that jury is

673
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: more than likely rented or you know what I'm saying.

674
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: It's all props, dog. But we project these images man

675
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: to the community. Right. It's almost like dangling the steak

676
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: in front of pit bulls. Right. So they kids want

677
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: that now, so they gonna do whatever. And the Internet

678
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: has made it to where any nigga can become famous

679
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: or at least get five minutes of fame. For a minute,

680
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: you can get attention, right, So you got some people, man,

681
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: that's willing to do whatever they have to do to

682
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: get attention. They gotta go in and tell a lie

683
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: about you or him or me or whoever. I look

684
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: at all do it. I look at all these people

685
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: now on the internet. I was just saying this ship

686
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: myself the other day. Mofucker will do anything to just

687
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: be somebody. Nowadays, you get me.

688
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: You see everybody going, uh, what do they call themselves now?

689
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: Content creasy?

690
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: What the fuck is that? And then half the motherfuckers

691
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: who call themselves content creators ain't doing nothing but walking

692
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: around showing themselves. And I'll be like, mofucker will do

693
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: anything today the lines about somebody else telling lies, and

694
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna eat some shit, I'm gonna wear some shit.

695
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get on here, like there's so many people

696
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: that just get on the internet just act foods and

697
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: ship for attention. You get me like, man, I'm i'm, I'm,

698
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm a fucking I'm I'm. I'm gonna feel me and

699
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: my husband in the bathroom getting dressed and pulling pranks

700
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: on each other.

701
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 3: I saw I saw bro Not to cut you off,

702
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: but I saw broad Man. They said this chick make

703
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: a million dollars a month, letting niggas watch her sleep.

704
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: It's just like everybody wants to be Like I ain't

705
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: man at that though, dog, I want everybody wants to

706
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: be famous today, man, or be somebody like you you

707
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: don't have. You don't hear too many motherfuckers like oh,

708
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 4: I want to become a teacher or an educator, or

709
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: I want to become a motherfucking lawyer, or I want

710
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: to be Everybody wants to be a YouTube content creating

711
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: sensation nowadays.

712
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Get me, I think I think, man, I think it's

713
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: just it's everything changed, like because I think back when

714
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: I was a kid aspiring to be a rapper, you

715
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like today it seemed like the

716
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: main primary reason why niggas want to rap it is

717
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: to be famous. It's to be seen even more than

718
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: get the money to move to mama out the house

719
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: to you know, to take care of the family. It's

720
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: like niggas just need to be seen more Like when

721
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I was growing up, it was like, Okay, I want

722
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: to be the best rapper. You want to have skills,

723
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: you want to be able to tell stories, you know

724
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like you wanted like being a rapper

725
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: was it was being somebody. It was like it was

726
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: like a tool that got you out of the hood. Now,

727
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: like you know, we wanted we wanted to rap to

728
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: get out, to take care of moms, to to get

729
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: out the motherfucking hood period. Now niggas want to rap

730
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: and go straight back to the hood. You know what

731
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like or they put on for the hood.

732
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't it's not

733
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: a real purpose in being an entertainer no more. It's like,

734
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: like you said, they just want to be seen.

735
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: You know.

736
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: Still as a kid, what did you inspire to be?

737
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: Man?

738
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: As a kid? You know what, Brake, I'm sure it

739
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: wasn't like I'm gonna be producing hip hop records or

740
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a podcast. Oh no, that you inspire

741
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: to be as a child.

742
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: You know what I wanted to be when I was

743
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: a little kid, Man, I used to be able to

744
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: draw really good. Okay, I wanted to do cartoons when

745
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: I was a little kid. I really wanted to do

746
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: I want to do that all the way up into

747
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: college until I saw how much especially the technology wasn't

748
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: like it is today. You know, in order for you

749
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: to get in the cartoon work man, you had to

750
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: go to four or five different schools. Like when you

751
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: get your backs threat, you got to go off here

752
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: and learn something. You might have to fly off of

753
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: here to China or Japan for a year, learn to

754
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: do this, depending on what you want to do, you

755
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I wanted to really be

756
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: an artist. Dog. I always like lean toward the arts,

757
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I never had even

758
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: though I played football, I never really had aspirations on

759
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: being a professional athlete, so to speak. I just always

760
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: especially back then, because believe it or not, football players

761
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: just getting the way they're making good money. Back then,

762
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: when I was coming out, I think the league minimum

763
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand a year. I knew motherfuckers that was

764
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: getting jobs that was better than that. And I always

765
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: thought about the financial aspect. My knees was hurting and

766
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: back hurting all the time. I was like, man for

767
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars, man getting whacked on fo a hundred thousand.

768
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: They got me fucked up. It wasn't ready for the turches.

769
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Oh no, man, And I was really good. I was good.

770
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to play baseball man. I wanted to play

771
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: baseball like nine eight seven eight nine, and I wanted

772
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to be I wanted to be Michael Jackson. Okay,

773
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wanted to be him.

774
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Then I wanted to be ll cool J. You know

775
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. And then when I started getting like

776
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, I really start selling dope and I caught

777
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: a couple of cases, I wanted to be a lawyer,

778
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, life delp me

779
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: what it dept me. But I did aspire to do

780
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: other things besides music, you know, sports music. I aspired

781
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: for that, but I knew if all that would failed,

782
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: I probably would have became an attorney or something.

783
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the youth now, like they and

784
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: like you said, I don't be a mo fucking rapper,

785
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: niggah artist, fucking baseball player, fucking you know what I'm saying.

786
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: I want to be a rapper. I think that is

787
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: why when I had my son, I pushed for something else.

788
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 4: He gus already knew that rap bug on hit him,

789
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 4: especially with the artists that they have today and his

790
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: generation in the youth. And you know, you got the

791
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: eighteen nineteen year old motherfuckers riding around in the rolls

792
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: Royces and all this shit that was gonna influence him

793
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: if he saw that shit every day. So automatically, it

794
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: was like, nah, nigga, we getting outside you nigga from

795
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: from the age of three years old until I could

796
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 4: stick it in your brain. You get me, it's gonna

797
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: be something else. Besides, and he used to detour a

798
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: little bit. Hey Dad, you think I can And how

799
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: do you do this? And how do you do that?

800
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: Work the microphone? Because I used to have my equipment

801
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: set up. How do you work the microphone? Nigga. I

802
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: took all that shit down because I didn't want him

803
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: to get influenced by this shit that I know is

804
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: a fucking headache and it's a roller coaster.

805
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: You get, man, every kid, I know, Man, it's in

806
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: the business. Man in any park, they discouraged their kids.

807
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: My son, Man, he played professional football, right, but it

808
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: seemed like he more interested in going into the music industry.

809
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 3: And here I'm like, man, you're playing professional football. Lead

810
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: that stuff alone, man, And I finally told him, if

811
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: you can work in the industry, you can get a

812
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: real job. So hook them up with my boy. It

813
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: was up in the Universal Building. I said, you not

814
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: doing all this trying to go develop an artist and

815
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: find you messed round and lose every penny you got, man, exactly,

816
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: you fucking around because it's hard, man, it's not no guarantees.

817
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I pulled my kids into this shit early that,

818
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: but that was me out here thrive having him so young,

819
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Out here thriving doing having

820
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: him everywhere I was. So you know, now my oldest son,

821
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: like my younger sons, they won't it. They love this shit,

822
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, my oldest son, and he won't it. They

823
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: love it too. But he was around it so much

824
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: as a kid that he shy away from it sometimes.

825
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: And like now, you know, he do his trade and

826
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, different things that he do, educate hisself, Like

827
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think when you

828
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: put him in they're too young, they gonna kind of

829
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: bag up from it. Anyway.

830
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: It'll burn you out, especially with the transition of how

831
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: shit going today. That's why I says, as a kid,

832
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: you gotta have some you know, some other solid inspirations,

833
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. To want to become you

834
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And no disrespect to the talent

835
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: and people who you know chasing that dream. I just

836
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: feel like with the way it is right now, like

837
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 4: I said, kids should be inspired to become something other

838
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: than the next hip hop star or the next whatever.

839
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, get you some kind of

840
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: education to where when this shit starts nagging you, you

841
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: got something else to fall back on besides trying to

842
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: be the next Oh well, shit, I gotta be a

843
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: content creator, or I gotta I gotta start a only

844
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 4: fans or I gotta you know, well.

845
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: From what I see today, bro, my only problem is

846
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: that if now, if a kid got talent, Man, if

847
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: a kid is talented, and a lot of times the

848
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: apple do fall for far, don't fall far from the tree.

849
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: You know.

850
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes if a niggas he don't been seeing his daddy

851
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: rap since he's been in the crib, he go more

852
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: than likely possess some kind of lyrical tenacity, you feel

853
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

854
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: But at the same time, is he gonna have the

855
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: sudden success?

856
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Is he gonna have the same success and now today

857
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: to become a rapper dog it's about every thing that's

858
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: outside of music that's go actually get a motherfucker to

859
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: invest some money into you. So now you got the

860
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: girls that's out there doing whatever. They just doing whatever.

861
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: They trying to outdo each other. They saying the craziest

862
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: stuff ever on records now and I don't I know,

863
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: we've been on that lately, so I don't want to

864
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: go back on that tarbet, but it just seemed like

865
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: to me that they almost It's like these little niggas

866
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: aspire to almost go to prison, my nigga. It's like

867
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: they get on like you see a cat like young

868
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: thug that's making all the money he was making. Now

869
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: he in this situation man, where this man might be

870
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: in jail for the rest of his life. It's like, okay,

871
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: so you struggled to get here, only to go back

872
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: to here to become worse, my nigga.

873
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: So I believe. I believe that. I believe that the

874
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: the artists, you know what I'm saying, like these days,

875
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: the artist is uh, it's changed. Tanning alone ain't just

876
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna get it. You can be the dopest nigga, you

877
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's probably ten It was probably ten.

878
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Jordan's on the playground. But why that only one make it?

879
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Because he knew, he understood his books, he knew with

880
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: his schooling. You know what I'm so, Now, I feel

881
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: like you have to have a business some type of

882
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: business degree if you're gonna be a rapper. So you

883
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You need to take accounting. You

884
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like all these a rapper now,

885
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: it ain't just us putting words on paper. You gotta

886
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: run a whole full business. So you just coming to

887
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: the mic because you could spit that don't mean nothing.

888
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: Everybody rap? So but can you manage your career? You

889
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I manage myself. I've been

890
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: managing myself, but I've been reading my own contracts. You

891
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: gotta understand the wearing tools, the foe and withs and

892
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: the hearing tools in your contracts. And you gotta be

893
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: able to dissect your contract. Okay, you like your clothes

894
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: your brand now? Now, a rapper is a brand, you

895
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So how do you manage that brand?

896
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: If you can't, if you don't under standing different aspects

897
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: of your shows, of your lawyers if you don't know

898
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: how to deal with every aspect of your business, then

899
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna make it in this You might get

900
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: a one hit song, but you ain't gonna last.

901
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: So and even if you do have a team some

902
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: kind of success, you gonna be everything gonna be gone

903
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 3: by the time you've done. You ain't gonna have no money.

904
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: Because if you don't have a team, you know what

905
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you take advantage, I don't know, if

906
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: you don't know it, that team would rob the shit

907
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: out you.

908
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. This man right here is the primary

909
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: example of that.

910
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been robbed. I've been shook down to my socks,

911
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so I'm really speaking

912
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: from experience, you know what I mean, Like had it

913
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: all came in first checked eighty thousand dollars, blew that,

914
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When did shit that wasn't

915
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: that was easy to blow? You know what I'm saying.

916
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: But we all did that because we had you know,

917
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: But over time I learned this. But now I feel

918
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: like if an artist, like when I'm looking at artists,

919
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: like I know, a couple of dope ass niggas get

920
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: on the mic and kill it. Dumb as rocks though,

921
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, nigga, you're going you're

922
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: going straight to jail. I'm not feeling you a liability, right,

923
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like that's how if

924
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: somebody gonna put some money behind you, they need to

925
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: see other than you just raping. They need to know

926
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: that you know, you're wise enough to control whatever that

927
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: investment is. You know.

928
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this bro, coming from the

929
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: place we come from, man, y'all established more thug records, man,

930
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: and y'all put a lot of people from the city on.

931
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: You know how many people was mad at you that

932
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: you didn't put them on because you can't you can't

933
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: put the whole neighborhood on.

934
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, niggas was mad period, you know what I'm saying.

935
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Even the ones put a couple the worst thousands of

936
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: dollars in the pockets, you know, and then they mismanaged

937
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: their money and do they you know, spent their ship

938
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: how they spent it. But now and now you know,

939
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: you try, you try to do something helpful, and here

940
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's a hinderance to you because you don't

941
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: put an uneducated person on that went blew. They shit

942
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: and now it's your fault.

943
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: And and they don't understand they have to pay that

944
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: money back you initially.

945
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: Gave them right, get that exactly.

946
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 3: And a lot of a lot of them records y'all

947
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: was putting out Man was going gold and platinum because

948
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: it feature gold and platinum people prominently on them albums.

949
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: Y'all really got behind them. Martis, y'all used to throw

950
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: them out there. Y'all was on every record down there.

951
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one way bus tickets from Cleveland, Ohio

952
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: out here, living homeless out here, you know what I mean?

953
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: That was the sacrifice, you know what I mean? Like

954
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: niggas didn't understand that we made that sacrifice for them, right,

955
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, three day bus ride, not

956
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: knowing what you're gonna eat or who you gonna stay

957
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: or what. You know what I'm saying, or that was

958
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: they didn't have to do that. I opened the door

959
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: and let him in, you know what I'm saying. Like

960
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: a couple of my artists still thriving off what they

961
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: got from me, A couple of my artists still blaming

962
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: me for what they didn't do, right, twenty years ago.

963
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But you gotta look at

964
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: the man in the mirror. I mismanaged my money. I

965
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: ain't blame nobody. I just got back on my shit

966
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: and became quiet and went and studied, you know what

967
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Because I ain't want to be the nigga

968
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: on but what happened to you dog used to be

969
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: the man. I ain't want to be that nigga, you

970
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I had to learn from myself.

971
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: So these artists, you put these artists on a lot

972
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: of times, it don't be worth it because if you're

973
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: not a well rounded individual, you're not gonna sustain this shit.

974
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: And sometimes it ain't fun to put on. People gonna

975
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: blame you, definitely.

976
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: I was just saying that everybody's not probably gonna be

977
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: as successful as you know. I mean not to mean

978
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: that we're not gonna work and try and do what

979
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: we gotta do, but averages, you might not sell ten

980
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: million albums, you might not sell one million albums. Man,

981
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: your shit might come out, might do sixty thousand copies.

982
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: People work mysteriously like that when they come to music.

983
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I could like this motherfucker,

984
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: not like that motherfucker. No disrespect. You get me, But

985
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't like that shit as much as I like this.

986
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 4: So that's just that's just people's flavor, man. And it's

987
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: unfortunate that you know, you might consider a motherfucker the

988
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 4: friend or the homie that you're trying to put on

989
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 4: because you believe in their talent. And but I can't

990
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: make a motherfucker by your record.

991
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Man.

992
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: You get me. I can only talk to the radio

993
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 4: so much and be like, hey, man, play this for me,

994
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: play this for me. But at the end of the day,

995
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: cost effective. You know what I'm saying. I can't do

996
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: for you what easy and Ruthless did for me. You

997
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 4: get me as I'm a try. You get me. That's

998
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: my whole intent. But let's face it, this this rap game,

999
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: man is That's why I say, Man, I did not

1000
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 4: want to encourage my son to go into this shit.

1001
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: Who says you're gonna have the success I did. I'd

1002
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: be loved if you was able to shit, if you

1003
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: was able to climb up over me, I'd be very proud, like, Okay, good, great.

1004
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, All the hard work and

1005
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: determination paying off good. Great, But then what happens when

1006
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: you put a motherfucker record out and he sell twenty copies?

1007
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1008
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 4: You get me whisky?

1009
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 3: Very well? Happening with this dream and shit, I don't

1010
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: understand how that work anyway. But going back to your

1011
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: going back to your you know, contract stuff and everything.

1012
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: A lot of artists say they first deal was unfair.

1013
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: I agree with that in some ways, but then in

1014
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: some ways I don't because somebody has invested some money

1015
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: and you because they don't usually come back and say

1016
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: nothing about the dudes to fail most asks the record

1017
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: company sign or failures. I think it's something only maybe

1018
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: one out of every five actually work out, you know

1019
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: what I mean? They got more failures in the buildings,

1020
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: so they kind of got a overtext the one that

1021
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: does that do make it now? Usually after you sacrifice

1022
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: that first album kind of and you sell some records,

1023
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: you start getting a lot more leverage. But now you're

1024
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: a bankable artist, right did y'all you guys, I assume

1025
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: y'all contract situation after y'all put out East nineteen ainty

1026
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: nine a termal, I'm pretty sure they went back to

1027
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: the drawing board with y'all and figured out some other

1028
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: shit on it.

1029
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: We went back to the drawing boards soon as I

1030
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: heard platinum, Like, I was on that, you know, I mean,

1031
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: because our deal wasn't the greatest, but you know back then.

1032
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: Whose deal was hell nobody.

1033
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna give y'all a better deal

1034
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: than the dog pound. He like, they getting eight points.

1035
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is a point?

1036
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: You're coming from where I'm coming from, lazy, Like, what

1037
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 4: the fuck is the point?

1038
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: Like?

1039
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: How much is that? The dollar size?

1040
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: I was a point like. He was like, I'm gonna

1041
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: give y'all twelve points. So I'm like, I'm trying to

1042
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: figure out what this point is. So I'm like, okay,

1043
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: twelve percent of one hundred. Yeah, that shit wasn't cool.

1044
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: But he put the money up, he put the videos up,

1045
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: and I had to explain to my niggas, like, man,

1046
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: we need to get in the door because I already

1047
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: knew because I had I had a situation in Cleveland

1048
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: that we had I had got fucked in the contract

1049
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: because the first album we did was called Faces to Death.

1050
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: It was a Cleveland local project, Dolls Repreation Hermy Henderson

1051
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: slew foot fuck face bitch.

1052
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: As he Yeah, why do we all got what? Yeah?

1053
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: He got one.

1054
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

1055
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: thinking I'm getting a record deal. This nigga signed us

1056
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: to a management deal. We give him a whole album.

1057
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: I still I could still sue this dude to this day,

1058
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: but it ain't worth it because I don't like the

1059
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: karma he got to deal with that. But you know,

1060
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: he as a kid, I was already tricked, so I

1061
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: already knew when we got to E, Like, I knew

1062
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: what a renegotiation was, so I'm like soon and then

1063
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: when I heard we was plattinum boom. So we went

1064
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: from a sixteen a twelve point deal to a sixteen

1065
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: point deal, from sixteen to an eighteen, from eighteen to

1066
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: a twenty two. By the time we left Ruthless, we

1067
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: was fifty to fifty with them, you know what I'm saying.

1068
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: So it worked out for me. Busy didn't see it

1069
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 1: the same way I saw it, you know what I mean.

1070
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: The rest of us saw it like, Okay, we establishing

1071
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: something now, we built some now, you know, and we

1072
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: was cut from that easy to eat cloth. So it

1073
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: was like the doors that was open for us was unlimited,

1074
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that was the reason

1075
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: why we went in and we was we signed the

1076
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: first contract because you got to get in the door. Man.

1077
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Once you get past the gate, the gatekeepers, then you

1078
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: can probably you know, you can construct your world the

1079
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: way fit now y'all.

1080
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: Having so many people in the group, man, how hard

1081
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: was that negotiating man, Because you pretty much got to

1082
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: have everybody in the Greens for it to be popping

1083
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: right right.

1084
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: So, you know, we used to have this thing called

1085
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: majority rule. It's five of us, you know what I'm saying,

1086
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: So if three niggas was down, then the other two

1087
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: had to roll. We lost that along the way, you

1088
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because once everybody he got money,

1089
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: it was like, now I'm gonna do what I want

1090
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean. But in the beginning,

1091
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: our little democracy was we're gonna vote if it's three

1092
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: to two, you know what I mean, George, the majority rule,

1093
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: And that's how we was able to keep going without

1094
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: standing there and just you know, and fighting, fighting, fighting

1095
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: and being stagnant. We didn't have to become stagnant because

1096
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: we had an uneven number in our group, you know

1097
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, So it always kept the ball rolling.

1098
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: That worked. Man, it had been cool if y'all could

1099
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: have saw that, man, Because I'm not gonna lie, and

1100
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: I ain't saying this. It's no Cleveland stand But when

1101
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: I first saw y'all, man, I listened to a lot

1102
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: of hip hop music, got no hip hop inside it out,

1103
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm a fan first, you know what

1104
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 3: I mean. I really felt like y'all was so unique, man,

1105
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: and wasn't nobody like y'all. I really say it, man,

1106
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: these dudes go fuck around and be like the fucking Beatles,

1107
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: a hip hop dog. I really I saw that, man,

1108
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: and I think, Man, somewhere along the way, man, like

1109
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: you said, the inconsistency started kind of coming in, you know,

1110
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: like I would see some crazy records that just didn't

1111
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: make sense, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, this

1112
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: dude over here doing these records with this dude and

1113
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: I black man, the motherfuckers is too big for that. Man,

1114
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: Where do you think that?

1115
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: Like?

1116
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: Why is it so hard to keep that cohesiveness?

1117
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean, Because Man, when

1118
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: money come into play, man, niggas just always that man,

1119
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, because in the beginning, you know what I mean,

1120
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: it was like our shit was more control. Like I

1121
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: worked at KFC, I sold dope, I went to school,

1122
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: I set up our talent shows. I did a lot

1123
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: of that stuff, you know what I mean. Like, so

1124
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of money, but a lot

1125
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: of that money came from me, you know what I mean.

1126
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, all right, so we gotta get our

1127
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: fits boom. We just you know, a lot of my

1128
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: contribution was to keep the group going. But shit, like

1129
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: I said, our first check a piece was eighty thousand

1130
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: sh That Nigga Busy was with us in Cleveland for

1131
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: a couple of years. He hated Columbus, you know what

1132
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, That nigga got that check, Nigga, that nigga

1133
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: was out, that nigga went straight to Columbus. Were like,

1134
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: where's this? You know what I'm saying. But that's what

1135
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: money do. It gives you power to do. You don't

1136
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: have to listen, We don't have to sit down and

1137
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: mastermind together, you know what I'm saying. Like I got

1138
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: my own ideas and then you got other people. They

1139
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: got ideas that didn't have nothing to do with the

1140
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: original idea. And now you over here with two people

1141
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: in your ear, I got three in mind, and that's

1142
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: when the wedges start coming in, you know what I mean.

1143
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: But us being family, you know what I mean, we

1144
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: kind of leaned on each other. That's why we still

1145
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: here today. We was more of family orientated, you know

1146
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. So when the wedges came down, one

1147
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: of us always knew, like, oh, we got to pull

1148
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: it back together. So if it wasn't me, it was

1149
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: it was flesh, you know what I'm saying. If it

1150
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: wasn't flesh, it was big wish, like the fuck that

1151
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: we family, you know what I'm saying. So our family aspect,

1152
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: our parents knowing each other and growing up in the

1153
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: Glenville area together and knowing each other is what helped

1154
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: us stand the test of time.

1155
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: That's a good thing. Is I still see y'all touring, man,

1156
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: And like, that's one thing man that always tell artists

1157
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: y'all might not have had the best contract that first album, though,

1158
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: but look at what y'all doing. Man, It's thirty years later.

1159
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: Man, we're free agents too, you know what I'm saying.

1160
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: So when we put out some now it's like all

1161
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: that all that come home exactly.

1162
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: Yoh, y'all about to get the Masters back to him.

1163
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: Masters come back year thirty man, and you know it's

1164
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a beautiful So we got, you know, the

1165
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: Masters starting to revert.

1166
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Back crazy some ship that we wrote.

1167
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: And we did thirty years.

1168
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: It take us thirty years to own our own ship,

1169
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 4: and we made the ship I got.

1170
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: Damn.

1171
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: I sat up all night getting high, drinking forty ounces,

1172
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: trying to come up with motherfucking shit to write about.

1173
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: And a nigga just took my ship, right like, nigga,

1174
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: that's that's mine.

1175
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: And they still don't want to give it back.

1176
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to go to court for that.

1177
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta go get.

1178
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: A lawyer and go get it, because they'll just keep

1179
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 4: selling it and keep flipping it and going, yeah it's

1180
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: thirty years later or what, and they'll keep collecting the money.

1181
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: No after I know, after Easy died, man, was it

1182
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: a little hard man, Because see, it's one thing when

1183
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: you're dealing with a cat that you like and stuff

1184
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: may not be all the way right, but that didn't

1185
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: gave you opportunity exactly. Then somebody else come in and

1186
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: take over. Was it a lot of little dissension as

1187
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: far as dealing with Tamika.

1188
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, Uh I said like this.

1189
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: So when we was working with Easy Eve when he

1190
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: was alive, he just put us in the studio and said, y'all, niggas,

1191
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: give me, give me an album. He didn't over like,

1192
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: look over our shoulder, I want to I want another

1193
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: Cross Rolls. You know, all that shit hadn't happened yet.

1194
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: So he let us do whatever we want. He let

1195
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: us be us, and we came with our ship. By

1196
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: the time Tamika and Uh and Ryan Swains where all

1197
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: the other players came into play. When that happened, it

1198
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: was like they was looking for something, you know what

1199
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like Tamika wanted to tell us how

1200
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: to do our record or which record to do, you

1201
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, and we didn't have that.

1202
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: So we had one hundred freedom with he was alive,

1203
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: and then when he wasn't, we had people trying to

1204
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: tell us how to do our shit. Well, we need

1205
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: another Crossrolls or some of the time. So we okay,

1206
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: we did Crossroads Boom. Now we're gonna give y'all change

1207
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: the world. And now we're gonna get y'all if I

1208
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: could teach so you know, if you look at our songs,

1209
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: it's like seven eight them kind of songs of each

1210
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: type kind of song. You know what I'm saying, Because

1211
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: motherfuckers was looking for the next instead of just letting us, just.

1212
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 4: Just letting us create and come up with our own.

1213
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: Now y'all telling us all, y'all gotta do another Crossroads.

1214
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 4: You gotta give us another hit single.

1215
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Didn't know Crossroads was gonna be a hit, So while

1216
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: we're chasing that, Yeah, and if you.

1217
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: Was being lifted your own device is the first project.

1218
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: I'll just let y'all keep doing all this. Obviously didn't

1219
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. Let's leave him alone.

1220
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: That's what he did. He was like, Okay, I'm gonna

1221
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: get y'all niggas some producers. He put us in the

1222
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: studio with Rhythm D and J Unique, Tony C all

1223
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: these guys. You know what I'm saying. Drake Ghost, we

1224
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: was all in studio with and he would go hind

1225
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: new business. You know, he'd be out there or he'd

1226
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: have he had his office set up over here. All

1227
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: the white people coming in and now he ain't, but

1228
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: he ain't messed with us. He's like, what y'all, let

1229
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: me hear what y'all did, and we'll play it for him,

1230
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: and he'd like it or not like it, you know

1231
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But most of the time he liked it.

1232
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: He was hip hop. Y'all write me a verse, No,

1233
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: you gonna write your own shit. He you know what

1234
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like his and he he really started like

1235
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: he was. He was finn to be a bomb member?

1236
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 3: Man?

1237
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Is that right on? Everything you see? You see the

1238
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: braids to the back, man, you see before he left Earth, man,

1239
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: he was Nigga was braided up, you know, still in

1240
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: the same pendleton wasn't up hot as hell, you know

1241
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. But at the same time, it wasn't

1242
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: the curl wasn't the curl was going slowly fading out.

1243
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean that Nigga was a that was e bomb.

1244
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: That would have been hard dug, that would have been dope.

1245
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: It was it was it was happening, man, Like all

1246
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: that shit happened so fast?

1247
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: Did it seems surreal?

1248
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: Bro?

1249
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: Because sometimes even some like sometimes I've had like my

1250
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: own incredible moments in life to where sometimes I'd just

1251
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: like to slow it down and embrace the moment because

1252
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: I'd be like, man, this shit really happening for me

1253
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: right like right now? Was it one of those type

1254
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: of moments with you?

1255
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean we we got out to

1256
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: California November twenty third. We left November twenty third, nineteen

1257
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: ninety three. Our first shit came out June twenty fourth,

1258
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, So we didn't hook up with easy

1259
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: E until after until like February, you know what I'm saying.

1260
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: So February March April May we recorded that all about

1261
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: fifteen songs. He put that shit out, He took his album.

1262
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: He was finna put his album out, and if he

1263
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: hadn't did that, when it never came out, he stopped

1264
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: his album, put our ship out. And that was ninety four.

1265
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: He died in ninety five, so we only knew he

1266
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: a little over a year.

1267
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: Wow, changed your life that quick, that quick. It was

1268
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: unselfish about it because he said he took he I'm

1269
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: not gonna put my album on. He was a majoritist.

1270
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and he had some ship because he

1271
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: was feeling he wanted the bomber. He was coming on.

1272
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: He had it for the dog pound. He was coming

1273
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: for them niggas. But he saw talent though this was

1274
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: this for me, was solidified him as an executive visionary.

1275
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: Right that nigga stopped what he was doing and was like,

1276
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put these guys out as executive.

1277
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 4: That's a difference between a rap executive and a nigga

1278
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 4: who know the vision. Vision like, it ain't about me

1279
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 4: being here. These niggas is gonna surpass me. You get me,

1280
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: but I need to go there right now. I'm thinking

1281
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: like an executive because a normal nigga in that position

1282
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: would be like, man, put my record out first. You

1283
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: got a gang of them, got a gang of niggas

1284
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: who call themselves executives. But then they don't think like that.

1285
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: That's why the careers and the successes of their artists

1286
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: don't climb past the motherfucking ant hell because they don't

1287
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: see the vision of going. Man, these niggas is finna

1288
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: be way larger than how you get me. So let

1289
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 4: me stop my shit. U Let's shoot that shit right here.

1290
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 4: That was smart. You get me, But like you said,

1291
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: he was a real executive and shit, you feel me.

1292
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 4: He learned that from being a street hustler. You feel

1293
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: me like, I know what, I know what works are

1294
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 4: not gonna work. I'm not gonna waste my time with

1295
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 4: this sack when I know I can get bigger money

1296
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 4: over here. You feel me.

1297
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: He's putting out nw A but still got the where

1298
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: with thor to put out jj FAD exactly.

1299
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1300
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 3: J J FAV was this first platinum althum I believe,

1301
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: wasn't it?

1302
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 4: Man?

1303
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean he had all the nigga had at a

1304
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: group called at band Klan with Will I Am when

1305
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: we first came out here. So he had this nigga

1306
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: had all kind of weird artists like he was really

1307
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: like he was on. He was, he was that. I

1308
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be that, like, yeah, I'm a.

1309
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: Real record fucking label.

1310
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like man, like that's what I wanted to be.

1311
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: Because y'all was the most important group at that label

1312
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 3: at that time. Because you gotta remember Dre had left

1313
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: and they was over there doing their thing. When you know,

1314
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: death Row came. They were smashing you know what I mean,

1315
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: they were smashing everything. They was dropping with solid right

1316
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: and he dropped y'all and y'all was that meiga time bomb?

1317
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, that, for the love of money,

1318
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 4: was killer, you know what.

1319
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying that, And that was like I was like this,

1320
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: you know, I was around here. She'sing like a mother

1321
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: for you know, every time a Cleveland nigga do something else,

1322
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, y'all, nigga, see, don't start trying to

1323
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: bite the army swag either, nigga. And they from the

1324
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: motherfucking part section of the town.

1325
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 4: I'm from.

1326
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: Two niggas home.

1327
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: He was watching Drew Carry Man, stop playing.

1328
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: I fuck with Drew Carrey Carry.

1329
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: On the east side, Yeah, just downtown.

1330
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Drew Carry used to suck me and Drew

1331
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: Carrey used to hustle together. Carry had a sec God,

1332
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: nig can tell her to put you all. The price

1333
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: is right there, bigger ship. You try to get all.

1334
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: Drew Carry sold my first zone, the stuff and stuff

1335
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: in front of me, my first zone. You know. But man,

1336
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: you know what dog the thing is when y'all came out, Man,

1337
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: the thing I liked too is that y'all didn't get

1338
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: too heavily invested in the It was all about music

1339
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: because at that time Ruthless was firing back with music.

1340
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: But when Easy did drop this ship, it was impactful.

1341
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: Know we we and I could speak on like, even

1342
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: coming from the West Coast, we banged some We banged

1343
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 4: some bone even like the thuggish Ruggish man. We banged

1344
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 4: all y'all ship from the beginning. So it was just

1345
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: it was it was just different. It was then as

1346
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: far as hip hop was concerned. You know, you had

1347
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: an East coast ship and then you know, the West

1348
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: coast we had our ship.

1349
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: But it was it was something different. Man, I'm gonna

1350
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 3: tell you something. I'm gonna tell you a no offense

1351
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: because some of y'all niggas at my homies, but when

1352
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: something new comes, here come the slew of poor man imitations.

1353
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: It was like a bunch of fake bone troops that

1354
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: came out after that. Man, everybody just thought it was

1355
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: about and we were so cold. Some of them dudes

1356
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: was just mumbling they didn't have the Kate and sy right,

1357
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They wasn't incorporating the melodies

1358
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 3: and stuff. They was just on that pretty much.

1359
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though,

1360
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: because it's like and then and then I really recognized

1361
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: the pattern of how in the street do you you

1362
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, but I recognized it watching

1363
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Little Wayne though. It was like when Little Wayne hit Bying,

1364
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: that nigga blew up like by itself with everybody had

1365
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: to sound like Little Wayne, you know what I mean.

1366
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: But that's how they did bomb But I was in it.

1367
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: I really couldn't. I couldn't step out and see what

1368
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: was going on.

1369
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: It got real corny for a minute though.

1370
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: I had to look in hindsight, you know what I mean. Like,

1371
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, niggas like a thousand niggas, like every record label,

1372
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: like when Easy Easy E died, Man, everybody tried to

1373
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: steal boonb Thugs in Harmony from Ruthless Records. We was

1374
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: just loyal, you know what I mean?

1375
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: Who was the one? I know was somebody that had

1376
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 3: to check the heck y'all? Like thinking, like, man, it.

1377
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: Was only seven majors I've been at. I've been at

1378
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: every last one of them, you know what I'm saying.

1379
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: So they came in, they beating out, beating our door

1380
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: down for bomb Thugs and Harmony. That's how I got

1381
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: the deal with deaf Jam for Fleshing Bone because he

1382
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: wasn't signed in the group, you know what I mean.

1383
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: And then that's how I was able to parlay the

1384
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: more thugs shit a relativity because they wanted that bone

1385
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 1: thugs in harmony sound, you know what I mean. Like that,

1386
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about influence and the contributions that was

1387
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: made to this, to this thing we love. We number

1388
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: twenty one on the Billboard group list right fuck out

1389
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: of here. Everybody got their hair braided, Everybody changed their

1390
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: wrap flow from Mariah Carey to bust Rhymes to name them.

1391
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: Everybody put a little flow, not everybody, but most of like,

1392
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: but the contribute, what I'm trying to say is the contribution,

1393
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: the overall influence, the impact that we brought to the tap.

1394
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: The whole industry tried to come behind. We had to

1395
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: fight the whole industry just to not be drowned out

1396
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: by them bringing imitators to the table and.

1397
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: Something y'all brought to the game. I don't know if

1398
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: you noticed, but like I said, I stay this stuff

1399
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: right since y'all came in. It's like the generation this

1400
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: raised was raised off of y'all that might have been

1401
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 3: little babies and stuff like y'all was almost like the

1402
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: Curtis Mayfields that came in, right, A bunch of kids

1403
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: don't grow up listening to y'all. Not everybody rapping with melodies. Now,

1404
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: everybody's rapping with a melody. Now, you almost can't be

1405
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: a rapper. Now. That's why it's important for rappers like

1406
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: Scarlett to blow up and with the One Girl, the

1407
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 3: big topic girl from Cleveland, because they bring the straight

1408
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: eggs back to it, like I'm just rapping. I don't

1409
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: got no melodies in my stuff. But everything since then

1410
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: it's almost been like a bone knockoff dog.

1411
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I mean that that was our contribution. Like Wes,

1412
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: I used to be man, I used to look at

1413
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: those lists like, man, they don't give us our props,

1414
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: but it really don't even matter no more than because

1415
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: you know, we know, like just to look if I

1416
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: turn on the radio and be like, no, I had

1417
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: something to do, just to just to know, like the

1418
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: West the way, the West the way n w A

1419
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: and y'all influenced the game with gangster rap music, you

1420
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's how I feel like our

1421
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: melodies had an impact, like to that degree.

1422
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: You know, when I hear a gang nigga saying jia

1423
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 4: on records, you get me, you feel me all. I

1424
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 4: don't look at it as damn man. All these famous

1425
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 4: ass Maya motherfuckers be saying jeer and knock one nigga

1426
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: will come out and say, I ain't gonna lie. First

1427
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: person I ever heard say that was eight. You know.

1428
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 4: Niggas be like, oh shit, I just started saying it.

1429
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: You get me. I don't look at it as I'll

1430
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 4: just be like, you know something, I know where it

1431
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: started from. I mean, and if niggas, if you look

1432
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: back and check their history from from eighty seven on,

1433
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: I was you know what I'm saying. So everybody came

1434
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 4: after that it was influenced by it. And if you

1435
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: was influenced by it, cool, I'm I'm glad you used it.

1436
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: We said that shit nigga like you, but we knew where.

1437
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: We knew where it came from.

1438
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 4: Some people look some people like, oh yeah, I know, nigga,

1439
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: that's MC eight all day. And then there's some dude

1440
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 4: who be like, I don't say nothing about it. It

1441
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 4: is what it is, and.

1442
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like I'm dissing nobody, so

1443
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: please don't nobody take because I think brothers do what

1444
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 3: they gotta do to get opportunities. And these labels they

1445
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: saw y'all were successful, so obviously it was like, we

1446
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 3: need to find we need to find us bone Thugs

1447
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 3: Harmony because I know at one time it was a

1448
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 3: prominent Southern rep label that had people on the streets

1449
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 3: looking for boones. The likes, yeah, I don't want to,

1450
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: you know.

1451
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 4: Talk about it, but they copy, they go copy what's popular?

1452
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 4: I want to ride what's popular? Movies? Do it all day?

1453
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 4: You see a nigga make a movie about Vietnam? How

1454
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: many movies different companies that made movies about Vietnam or

1455
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 4: spaceships or fucking the president getting killed or whatever.

1456
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: Everybody wants something that's popular.

1457
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 4: Though, if it were ship, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride.

1458
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 4: That's how they do it. The world so fat. That's

1459
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 4: a motherfucking that's what you call it. What's funny about

1460
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 4: boom Man? It's y'all all got all different personalities, right,

1461
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 4: because I'm cool with crazy crazy, you know, create a humber,

1462
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: create real reserve.

1463
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 3: He's a quiet dude. You always seem like you was

1464
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: a nigga that was out in traffic. I said, that's

1465
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: the nigga to be out in traffic, probably wiggling with everybody.

1466
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: Right, you're the one that you're the wiggling.

1467
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 3: Which seemed like he can't like the doom you know,

1468
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: you know he eat a good at goon. He'd no nonsense.

1469
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: Nigga didn't fire on the nigga, you know what I mean.

1470
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 3: Flesh seemed like he don't play no type of games,

1471
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's a it's a

1472
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: certain structure there, but Busy is the wild card. He's

1473
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: the nigga that's go start a fight somewhere he ain't

1474
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: supposed to start a fight at and go talk some shit,

1475
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 3: to say some shit he ain't supposed to say. I

1476
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: was at the verses, right. I didn't go to the

1477
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 3: thing though. I didn't go to the actual verses. I

1478
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 3: was at the hotel. I actually had it is I'm

1479
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm cool with one of my homeboys. Shout out to

1480
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 3: Uncle Beats down with three six, Right, do a lot

1481
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: of shit with three six. So I was up there

1482
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: fucking with crunchy black Uncle Beats. That's my dog, that's

1483
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: your boy, that's my nigga right there, you know, shout

1484
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: out the boy. I was kicking it with you know,

1485
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: Lola and the other homie, and we was up there talking.

1486
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: They said, why you over here? Still you at Cleveland, nigga?

1487
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 3: You came to get some intail for your bone people

1488
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 3: because we about to smash him. And they had all

1489
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 3: kinds of niggas run through the hotel. I never felt

1490
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: like a little kid again though. But when the homies

1491
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: eight ball MJG came through that motherfucker and you know

1492
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: that nigga mj G. He almost remember that old school

1493
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 3: movie Willie Danna Mike had that nigga walk down the

1494
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: stairs at that courthouse. That nigga MJG. Don't touch the

1495
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: ground when he walked. He really like he really in

1496
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 3: character all the time. You know, he coming there, he

1497
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: got two white girls in his arm. He's skipped up

1498
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: in that mother for them. I'm like, oh shit, damn

1499
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: b MJG. And now I said, y'all niggas just gotta

1500
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 3: pull the cheek code out for all the Cleveland niggas.

1501
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 3: But they would come by theyself. But then y'all came

1502
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 3: with some surprises. Did you think it was gonna be

1503
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: one of the moments, man, when Busy tripped out up there.

1504
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you always gotta expect something to happen, you

1505
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Just like with that whole Bone

1506
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: thugs and harmony in three six Mafia. The history is

1507
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: so rich and the few was so real, you know

1508
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he had to expect something. I mean,

1509
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: but Busy Bone, you know what I mean, that's that's

1510
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: Busy Bone. You never know that he gonna say something,

1511
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: something gonna.

1512
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: He motherfuckers to keep playing with me. And I just

1513
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: remember Boo going, Busy you a hater? You would hater?

1514
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: Busy?

1515
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a piece of boost. Was he a

1516
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: hater because they was ugly or what? Because he said?

1517
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, I just think that's that's as funny as

1518
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: a motherfucker.

1519
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: Our jokey backstage was like these ugly mother and this

1520
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: blurted that ship out.

1521
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 4: Was you a hater? Nigga said, you an ugly wild

1522
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 4: fucking you Just ship was.

1523
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: So funny because it seemed like it can't noeork because

1524
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 3: you ain't know if Busy was playing at first, but

1525
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: then he he was serious than the motherfucker. Yeah, that

1526
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,919
Speaker 3: nigga is passionate.

1527
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was the words that was exchanged

1528
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: went too far. You know what I'm saying with the

1529
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: nigga Juicy J has said was inappropriate because we don't

1530
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: play that suck my dig ship. This shit crazy like

1531
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: when men say that to me and nigga, that's always

1532
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: gonna I'm from.

1533
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. But this man from

1534
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: to a nigga invite me to his dick dog, I

1535
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 3: might put my steel on his ass.

1536
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And that's why that got out of hand

1537
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. But you know

1538
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, just and I want to add, you know,

1539
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: we talked to them, but were probably about to go

1540
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: on tour. We was about to go on tour with

1541
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: them right after that until boot pass, you know what

1542
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean. So they was they was working on that.

1543
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, Like all that shit

1544
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: gets squashed, man, misunderstanding heat of the moment, all that testosterone,

1545
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: all that talent, all that Bravardo up there.

1546
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1547
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: You gotta expect something to happen.

1548
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: Man, it just goes down like that sometimes. Man. One

1549
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 3: thing I love about you all niggas though it's no

1550
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: matter right or wrong, y'all always unified up in that motherfucker.

1551
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. I said, Man, they

1552
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 3: probably cut that nigga out on the way home, but

1553
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 3: they go ride with him. That's how it's supposed to

1554
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: because everybody got that one homeboy that's go act up.

1555
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: Oh definitely, But you gotta ride with him because y'all

1556
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: been front y'all family.

1557
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean thing about it is he ares you know

1558
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So y'all can't touching.

1559
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: That's real ship right out, real ship. Let me ask

1560
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 3: you this, bro, And you ain't gotta say no names, man,

1561
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: But did you ever see one of them fake bone

1562
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 3: groups and just laugh, man, and just say this is

1563
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 3: the worst shit ever? Like what's the worst copy cops?

1564
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 3: What's the worst knockoff? You don't saying?

1565
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: Ah, man, it was. It was just one group out

1566
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: of New Orleans. Them niggas hated us. We ain't know

1567
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: who they was. I didn't even know who they was

1568
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: til about fifteen years later. Like, but they really wanted

1569
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: to be bomb. I don't even know their name, but

1570
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: they know who they are.

1571
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you don't want to get no publicity like that. Man.

1572
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 3: Of course you don't want to give him no puz.

1573
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: Niggas was weak. You know what I'm saying.

1574
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: He gave them by saying where they was from.

1575
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: Ye, the niggas down there, now they gonna take their

1576
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: little segment to say, see he was the whole time.

1577
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 3: Already gave him enough lazy boom. We already called them

1578
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: where they was from, So now they gonna be feeling good.

1579
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: Nigga said what we was from.

1580
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: Dog Nigga can't never call me no hater man. I

1581
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: you know I opened doors for niggas exactly like they

1582
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: can say what they want to say that If that's

1583
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: what you got to say about me, you really don't

1584
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: know me, because you can ask anybody who know me.

1585
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, y'all gonna gave it a

1586
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: lot of cats opportunities though.

1587
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a whole lot of them because they

1588
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: was given to us. You know what I mean. I'm

1589
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: a nigga Cleveland man who would imagine, like you gotta

1590
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: think ninety three when y'all put our minutes to society.

1591
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: You know how much influence that ship was in my life?

1592
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like y'all like you growing

1593
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: up in the hood, that song nigga right there like

1594
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: we was. That was the and we was living that

1595
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: when we left Cleveland, we was living that like. So

1596
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: the opportunity was provided to us for us to meet

1597
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: Easy Eat from Cleveland. You look to the bride, this

1598
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: nigga drive and I'm shotgun looking like this easy motherfucking Eat.

1599
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,480
Speaker 3: It's one of the moments I talk about.

1600
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: One time, like when we first seeing y'all all, y'all

1601
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: like nigga we on the West cause we're seeing y'all though,

1602
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: but we're just seeing y'all in the movie. So that

1603
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: and that was unheard of Cleveland nigga like movies and

1604
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: like that shit was a dream, you know what I'm

1605
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: so we was afforded them opportunities, so I try to

1606
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: give it back sometimes though, Bro, you don't see it

1607
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: like you ever bring one of the homies from back

1608
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: of the crib out here though, and just let them

1609
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: hang out, like you know, you got them homies.

1610
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: They ain't got no interest in being the entertainment. They

1611
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 3: just steal your It's still some niggas like that out

1612
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 3: there that just go always be your nigga, your same nigga. No,

1613
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to do nothing. You ain't gotta give

1614
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 3: me nothing, but I'm gonna come out of fuck with you.

1615
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 3: And they get out here and get to seeing this

1616
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 3: shit to be like, man, that was such and such.

1617
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 3: I bought my homeboy Tad out here a few weeks ago,

1618
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 3: and he was like, niggas, you just really know all

1619
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: these niggas, don't you just floating around like they said

1620
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: it was regular niggas though they people just like you

1621
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: and niggas just make music.

1622
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: I just tell him, like, you see why I'm in

1623
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: California because this is where they at.

1624
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 3: Nigga, Yeah, because it damn she ain't going down to Cleveland. Man,

1625
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 3: But man, I know I ain't asked you nowhere. I

1626
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: just didn't want to rehash a bunch of the same shit.

1627
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: Man that sometimes people get you all in these interviews.

1628
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: Bad y'all the dumbest shit dog in the world.

1629
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that and I hate them type of motherfucking in.

1630
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 3: It's like they just trying to reach instead of having

1631
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: the conversation and letting the shit be natural, They're trying

1632
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: to add. So, man, did you walk in on such

1633
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 3: and sex when they was doing this and that, you know,

1634
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 3: they just want to come out the bat with some bullshit.

1635
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1636
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think this, you know, the conversation

1637
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: of just real niggas. Cond We just try.

1638
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 4: To talk and conversate with niggas and get a little

1639
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 4: in it, like get a people a little insight about

1640
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 4: you know, how it was, and just real shit, you

1641
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Because people look for red realism.

1642
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 4: You know, you come from these places. They just want

1643
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 4: to hear a little a little bit of history about

1644
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 4: the same struggle, the same struggle. Yeah, and hopefully motivation.

1645
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 4: That's to an average nigga. Like you said, we get

1646
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 4: niggas who listen to us truck drivers motherfuckers who just

1647
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 4: be chilling. They just want to hear that motherfuckers is

1648
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 4: normal motherfuckers sometimes, yeah, and hear your perspective on stuff

1649
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 4: exactly a lot of time niggas don't want to hear

1650
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 4: like you got a problem with this motherfucker, this conspiracy

1651
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 4: that happened, or we heard this or we heard man,

1652
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 4: don't I don't like to do that. That's something I

1653
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 4: used to tell still about, Like we just got to

1654
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 4: talk to niggas about and if if it's a connection

1655
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: to the street, you know what I'm saying, we as

1656
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 4: we as as grown motherfuckers, know how to conversate without

1657
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 4: having to dig into controversy and bullshit to a to

1658
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 4: a please a certain narrative.

1659
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: You tell you that right now? You know one thing

1660
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: I did want to ask you, though, Dog, They had

1661
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 3: been talking about these rich white folks, these rich folks

1662
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: that went to the bottom of the oceland. They went

1663
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: deeper than where the whale was going, and that just

1664
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: really governed the news right for most of the week. Right,

1665
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 3: But you had all these girls missing in Cleveland, right.

1666
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: If you notice is a pattern? Man, if we not

1667
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: care for dog, they gonna fuck around, try to wipe

1668
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: us out one again, because it's all these and they

1669
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: not just doing it to the black girls, but they

1670
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: doing to the Mexican girls. Gang of young ladies missing

1671
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 3: from Mexico, right, gang of little girls man between nine

1672
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 3: and fourteen, that was you know, coming across the border,

1673
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: just disappear, right, Same thing happened in Cleveland, same thing

1674
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: happened in Atlanta. Now you notice a pattern, man, anybody

1675
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:03,520
Speaker 3: they deem is being indispending, You're easily dispensable. They like disappearing.

1676
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: Dog.

1677
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: I think it's something behind that shit, bro.

1678
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm just gonna say, Man, America, Man,

1679
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: this is America.

1680
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 4: You know where yeah, where the government is set up.

1681
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 4: And the ship you see, I mean, they give you

1682
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 4: clues to ship. And we done see enough ship on

1683
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: TVs and the news and conspiracy theories and movies and

1684
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 4: all to know it's ship that goes down.

1685
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest cons want to cover it up.

1686
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 4: It's ship that they get.

1687
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 3: It's just if you ever notice, door bro, and check

1688
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 3: this out, both of y'all, if you ever notice when

1689
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 3: it be some shit deep going down like that, it's

1690
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: always something crazy to happen, like a mass shooting, like

1691
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: something just crazy happening. It's almost like a distraction, like

1692
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's like they put out

1693
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 3: all of these distractions man, the media and all that stuff. Right,

1694
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 3: they put all these distractions out there to distract you

1695
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: from the ship that's real, right. They don't show you

1696
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 3: about these folks. Don't jump in the boat, you know.

1697
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean niggas down the water every day, my nigga,

1698
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: that they don't the.

1699
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: News don't cover right, So look that the submarine thing happened, right,

1700
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: all that, all that coverage, all that media coverage, coverage, coverage, coverage,

1701
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: but they didn't tell you so it was. It was

1702
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: a boat carrying like seeople seven people. Yeah people, they

1703
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: only saved like a hundred of them. But they ain't

1704
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: talk about that. Why because they brown people.

1705
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, it's like anybody, I mean, anybody that's not

1706
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: of importance to them.

1707
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: Bro.

1708
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 3: They feel like they can get away with it all

1709
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: most and sometimes they hide stuff in plain sight. Like

1710
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 3: they've been talking. I know you don't like shit, like,

1711
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 3: but I gotta talk about this is real they're talking about.

1712
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: It's a moon. They don't found another moon that's been

1713
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 3: following the Earth for the last thousand years, right, and

1714
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 3: you just discovered it? How you know it's been following

1715
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: the Earth for a thousand years? Then if you just

1716
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 3: discovered it, right.

1717
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Man, I don't believe no motherfuckers still walking.

1718
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 3: On the moon, you know what I mean.

1719
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 1: I always look at that picture they showed ers in school.

1720
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: They put the flag in the moon. Is it any

1721
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: oxygen on the moon? How's the motherfucking flag floating?

1722
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of little stuff

1723
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, like.

1724
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 4: The moon high fuck with that ship, man ain't doing

1725
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 4: because like I said, when it comes to this thing

1726
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 4: that we call the government and presidents and fucking congressmen

1727
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 4: and ship, that's another world that that we know nothing.

1728
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 4: When you be seeing all these motherfucking shows and secret

1729
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: layers and project xes and all this shit. Motherfucker, they

1730
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: ain't showing you that ship for nothing, So you could

1731
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 4: be you would be a damn food to believe half

1732
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: the ship they tell you in the news, because it's

1733
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 4: all too it's all to pull the wall over your

1734
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 4: eyes or to switch and root tactic you like if

1735
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 4: you ain't started playing the game and shit and if

1736
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 4: you ain't paying attention or nigga.

1737
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 3: Move the shell game like But like you said, though, bro,

1738
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't have the cognitive skills to

1739
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: understand like, ain't no, how's the flag just waving like that? Right?

1740
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, how's the flag waving? So

1741
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 3: you got this other thing And then they said that

1742
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: there was a big ass they've been talking about. It's

1743
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: a spaceship or something up there. But I'm gonna tell you,

1744
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: like this bro. It's so much shit that they hired

1745
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: for much Dog. I think if they did tell us

1746
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 3: the truth, Dog would probably be mass chaos out here.

1747
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 4: Dog in the world.

1748
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: We barely hanging on by a thread anyway.

1749
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Dog, it's gonna be mass chaos anyway.

1750
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they created yeah.

1751
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because they want to depopularize

1752
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: the earth. They wanted you know what I mean, They

1753
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: want as less people as possible.

1754
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 3: Like they a's gonna be here the monitory. They don't

1755
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 3: care the dog. I'm gonna tell you something what I

1756
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: notice about white folks. I got a homeboy, right, cool dude.

1757
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Me and his son played football together. He's a billionaire.

1758
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: Doront flew on his jet with him and everything else.

1759
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: Like that cool dude. He owns the brewery. Have you

1760
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: ever seen that brewery that's on the two team to

1761
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: sixty Freeway. It's like on the two team to six

1762
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 3: or five. Yeah, the Midder Brewing Company. He owns that

1763
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: land right there, right, and he was saying, yeah, their

1764
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: lease is up. I'm about to you know, I'm about

1765
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 3: to probably sign them into another seventy five year lease.

1766
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: And this dude like sixty five Dog, I'm thinking, I'm like, man,

1767
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 3: you doing that bus. You ain't gonna be He said no,

1768
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 3: But my grandchildren be here, my great them folks playing

1769
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 3: the head dog. They playing. We sitting up here thinking

1770
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 3: about what we go do tomorrow? Might the guy them

1771
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: dudes is playing in thirty forty fifty years ahead in

1772
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: some cases and got their step. They're making sure that

1773
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 3: poverty never touches no part of their family.

1774
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 4: Unless it's kind of hard for our motherfucker who's struggling

1775
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: every day on the day today to year's. I might

1776
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 4: not be here two days from now. But that's what

1777
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 4: I'm different for a motherfucker who's been handed a billion

1778
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 4: dollar company from the time he was a fucking toddler

1779
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 4: or some shit like that. That's the difference in People

1780
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: want you to be able to think on the same aspect.

1781
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 4: But nigga, shit, I'm struggling to put fucking food on

1782
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: the table.

1783
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 3: Thing about this dude, though, he what's funny is he

1784
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: I think got his ged. He's not no college. He's

1785
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: a dude from New Jersey. That's how I mean him

1786
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 3: got cool. He just the fear of poverty kept him going.

1787
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 3: He had to help have somebody to help him out

1788
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: to get into real estate, right, and he owns all

1789
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: his property and stuff now. But I was just looking

1790
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 3: at the way he maneuvered Dog in that Cavt conversation

1791
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: with him kind of changed my perspective on a lot

1792
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 3: of things.

1793
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 4: Ain't that crazy? And how you just said it. His

1794
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: fear of poverty and his ambition. Somebody saw that and

1795
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 4: they fronted him to be able to do what he do.

1796
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Run him, yep.

1797
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 4: I mean, times a nigga gonna do that for you.

1798
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, it never happened. We got a lot of

1799
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: geniuses in the hood.

1800
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 4: Now, Times a nigga gonna see your potential and really go,

1801
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 4: you know something, I'm finna give you this five million

1802
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 4: and let you take off because I know twenty years

1803
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 4: from now you're finna be this motherfucker that we don't

1804
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 4: get motherfuckers to do like that for us.

1805
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: Oh, No, Dog is big at me because Aniga been

1806
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: conditioned with that, that slave mentality to wear nobody on.

1807
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to see the next nigga get.

1808
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: A few easy did it for y'all? It wasn't no

1809
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 4: white motherfucking It wasn't Sony or Universal or whatever easy said,

1810
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 4: you know something, you feel me, But how many niggas

1811
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: really go you give me? Are steal your ideas cracking?

1812
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 4: Let me front you this million dollars and let you

1813
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 4: get it going.

1814
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Leg. I'm gonna tell you something right now, Dog, I

1815
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: don't like to brag a lot.

1816
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 4: Dog.

1817
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: I don't do this. I don't say this nothing to

1818
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 3: be bragging. Dog. But we gave we helped launch math Off.

1819
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Who else we don't have. Man, it don't been so

1820
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: many big podcast dog that I initially have my hand

1821
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: in and gave them. They send off and they went

1822
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: on to become successful podcasts. I look at companies Dogs,

1823
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 3: Some of these guys they go get five or six

1824
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 3: million dollars in funding, twelve and sex sus give them

1825
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 3: some money. I be like, Man, these niggas ain't deod

1826
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: half the shit I did, dog, and they gonna give

1827
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 3: them some money. Everything I don't did just done been

1828
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 3: off the monkey help. So you know, like he said,

1829
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 3: with the shelves and the motherfucking thing, I'm gonna make

1830
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: some shit happen. Dog, we don't get them same opportunities.

1831
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 4: Dog.

1832
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: So I'm glad to see brothers like you. When y'all

1833
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: do get in positioned. Man, y'all do go back and

1834
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: try to that lift some brothers up, you know what

1835
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean? And I wish our brothers would appreciate that

1836
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: more when they do get that lift up off the ground,

1837
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 3: because you could pick any number of people to get that.

1838
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 3: They've been chosen though, so they got to represent so

1839
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: they can go back and get somebody, because you can't

1840
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 3: even drag everybody on the building by yourself. But if

1841
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 3: you get if you pull ten people up and they

1842
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 3: go get another ten people and eventually everybody go get

1843
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: up there, right. You know what I'm saying. You know

1844
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So what you got? What you got?

1845
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: Cracking out?

1846
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: Dog?

1847
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 3: What you got you about to blast off with?

1848
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: I got a little free mix tape, man. I just,

1849
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, was exercising my lyrical skills a little bit,

1850
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: and uh just put out a little mixtape car Too Easy,

1851
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: you know. I mean. It's a little mixtape of where

1852
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: I took songs that artists been paying homage to bomb

1853
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: Thus in harmony, you know what I mean. So, and

1854
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: it's artists that I would like to work with as well.

1855
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: So what I did was took the songs that they

1856
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: took from us, put new verses on they shit, and

1857
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying, And just to let

1858
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: people know that, you know, I'm still, I'm still you know.

1859
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: Rapping is is my love, you know what I mean,

1860
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: Like putting them words together, telling the story. I love that,

1861
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I got the mixtape, man,

1862
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: and that's something for free from my fans. You can

1863
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: download that on live mixtapes dot com, you know what

1864
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean. But I got an album coming out too,

1865
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: called Hypnotic Rhythms, you know what I mean. So Hypnotic Rhythms.

1866
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: My first single was called Pillar and that'll be out

1867
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: later this summer, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

1868
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: doing that man. Harmony House Entertainment. My girl got her

1869
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: podcast that's about to come out called Tipping with Tiny.

1870
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: That's hard, Yeah, Tipping with Tiny and Minds is Lounging

1871
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: with Lazy. So we do a little partnership with that

1872
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: and kind of intertwined with each other sometimes on that,

1873
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Man, My kids, you know,

1874
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: we talked about the kids. They doing music. You know,

1875
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm just getting ready for this thirty year anniversary. For

1876
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: Bone Thugs and Harmony ninety fours the thirtieth year.

1877
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Man, we need that movie though. We need a Bone

1878
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Thugs movie though. We need to actually MC eight fucking

1879
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: movie too, though. It's so many incredible stories and hip

1880
01:32:59,120 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 3: hop dog that.

1881
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Can be man, Man, it'll be an Honor eight n

1882
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: R movie.

1883
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, I'm with the part. Definitely, you know

1884
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So play me a little easy or something.

1885
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1886
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Doing the bio pic you know, in our movie is

1887
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: basically an aliu from the NWA movie.

1888
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,879
Speaker 3: Is one being It is one in production right now.

1889
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: Not in production, but the writing part of right.

1890
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 3: Oh that's dope, man, Okay, that's cracking.

1891
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: So the idea of the bio pick it pick up

1892
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: where NWA left off at. You know what I'm saying.

1893
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: If you all remember in the movie, DJ Yeller was

1894
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 1: giving Easy the mixtape he was giving him East nineteen

1895
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: ninety ninety times. He died before he heard the finished tape.

1896
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: So at the end of that movie, when he passed away,

1897
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: he was let the East nineteen ninety nine Eternal album

1898
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: was sitting right on his desk that he never got

1899
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 1: to hear you know what I'm saying. So that's how

1900
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: we pick it up. That's that's the alley. Oop. I

1901
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: feel like n w A through us. On the movie side.

1902
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 3: You know, that's hard that their attention to detail was

1903
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 3: like that, dog exactly, that's hard. Dog. I really hope, man,

1904
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 3: because I know that's gonna be a massive movie. Y'all

1905
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 3: got a fan based that's incredible. Dog, y'all fan based,

1906
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 3: and y'all fans them type of fans that they'll fight

1907
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 3: for y'all.

1908
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Definitely, Man, I definitely appreciate our fans, man. You know,

1909
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: the diversity of our fans. It ain't just like a

1910
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop artists like it be like black

1911
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: or are. We got diverse Mexicans love bone thugs and

1912
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: white people love Hispanics, uh man, Asians like our crowd

1913
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: be so diverse man. And and like you said, they

1914
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: gung ho for so we appreciate.

1915
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 4: That, y'all. Y'all, y'all hip hop contribution was definitely not

1916
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 4: stereotyped to one particular crowd. You can say like y'all

1917
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 4: was one of them international hip hop artists, you feel me?

1918
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, they have to be able to respect.

1919
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 3: That yeah, dog, you know what one more things.

1920
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 4: A lot of niggas who don't make it that far

1921
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 4: hip hop game is concerned. Know a lot of them.

1922
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 4: You know that niggas who were left underground so to speak,

1923
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 4: so to be able to come from just hip hop

1924
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 4: period and then be able to make it to Like

1925
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 4: you said, y'all have probably been some everywhere all around

1926
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 4: the world with this hip hop shit. Yeah, coming from Cleveland,

1927
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 4: you know.

1928
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 3: You'h some crazy shit. Though you think about it, y'all

1929
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 3: work with Easy, Tupac and Biggie like those are legend.

1930
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 3: Those are like they immortalized now, dog, you know, risk

1931
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 3: and peace, but y'all work with all of them. Dog,

1932
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 3: do you ever just sit up in bed at might

1933
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: be like, can't tell me.

1934
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: Nigga he was, you know that's that's that's that's part

1935
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: of the seal, the deal of the legacy, definitely, you

1936
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to have like and for them

1937
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: to be beefing the way they were, you know what

1938
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: I mean, for us to not be involved in the

1939
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: or dependent all that all the problems they was having.

1940
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: It was like being from Cleveland left us mutual right

1941
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: in order to man.

1942
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 4: Not only that ship y'all. Y'all ship, y'all were protege

1943
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 4: ades the of the Godfather. You feel me. As far

1944
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 4: as what we concerned on the West Coast, you get me.

1945
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 4: Everybody has their this is the Godfather or rap or whatever.

1946
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 4: But as far as were concerned on the West Coast,

1947
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 4: with our ship, y'all came from the streets. We came

1948
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: for Easy. Eas looked at around the world. Is that

1949
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 4: as that motherfucker man? You feel me like Easy opened

1950
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 4: the door, not just for for shit. Easy is what

1951
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 4: made me want of motherfucking god. Damn. He is what

1952
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 4: made me go nigga. You could rap about the neighborhood. Oh,

1953
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 4: I could rap about the one time and selling crack,

1954
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 4: and I could rap about blasting and claiming the hood.

1955
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you just hope because at that point,

1956
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 4: even though we were street niggas, it was utfo and

1957
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 4: it was you know, it was fun ra. It was

1958
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 4: even though you are nigga coming from the streets. You like,

1959
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 4: I don't do no shit like that, man, So what's

1960
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: what's my way in?

1961
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: You're there to wiggle in.

1962
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 4: When Easy came with boys in the hood like nigga,

1963
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 4: just nigga, six four's and forty ounces and nigga hold,

1964
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 4: he opened up a whole fucking world for niggas who

1965
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: who like I'm not that this is my identity, and

1966
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: so he opened that door for to see him. W's

1967
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 4: for the bones, for the above, the laws for the man,

1968
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 4: A gang of niggas man that street ship for sure.

1969
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Lake, y'all ain't never collaborated

1970
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 3: with doctor dra Nope, I wonder what ain't happened?

1971
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 4: Though.

1972
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: I got a couple of tracks from Dre that I

1973
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: wasn't never able, we wasn't really able to use. But

1974
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Drake thing was when the opportunity was presenting itself, we

1975
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: was internally fucked up, you know what I mean, And

1976
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: that nigga Dre was like, if I can't have all

1977
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 1: five of y'all, I ain't fucking with y'all. And that

1978
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: was that. So hopefully one day he'll get it. I know,

1979
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: all of us individually tried to. You know, that's Drake

1980
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: who don't want to Dre be of course, you know

1981
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I see it. Yeah, he like

1982
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: all of y'all can't get all that, you know what

1983
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, because we all tried to go individually, but Drake,

1984
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: you know the way the word got back to me.

1985
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: Like Dre said, if he can't have all y'all in,

1986
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: we know, it's it's no point.

1987
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 3: We gotta make y'all can't make that happen.

1988
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Though, Shit, what's up? Dre? Holler?

1989
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 3: Cold Ship and we need and we need another Bone album?

1990
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 3: You know out'll get it cracking.

1991
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: One call from Dre, watch how fast all five niggas

1992
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: get together?

1993
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 4: That would be his story.

1994
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 3: That would be some cold ship Dog, and it got

1995
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 3: to happen on that next Bone album, Dog.

1996
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Man, come on, let's preach on that broom.

1997
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 3: What's up with the next Bone album? Dog? When is

1998
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 3: that coming together? Man? We go get just get the

1999
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 3: one of the greatest hip hop group of all time,

2000
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 3: the symbol one of the greats.

2001
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: So the legacy project. Man, we're talking about the h

2002
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: a double album, a world tour, we're talking about a

2003
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: coffee table book, and we're talking about the bio pic.

2004
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's cracked.

2005
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, four elements, you know what

2006
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean of the world, wind, fire Water, I.

2007
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 4: Could definitely say if anybody can pull that ship off,

2008
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 4: y'all y'all that y'all, y'all one of them groups. Man,

2009
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 4: y'all want them international groups.

2010
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Man, Man, I drop everything I'm doing for an opportunity

2011
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,839
Speaker 1: to work with Doctor Dre Hell yeah, sure, my niggas

2012
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: feel the same.

2013
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 3: But you know what those dog, it's a couple of producers.

2014
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 4: Man.

2015
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 3: Always thought Bone would be real beastie on. I still

2016
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 3: think now y'all should keep I think y'all most impotent

2017
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 3: in Coronation Dog is when y'all were Unique. I think

2018
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 3: Unique got that ship without.

2019
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 1: Chemistry right there.

2020
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to see him somehow be involved.

2021
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 3: But I would love to see y'all go fuck with

2022
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 3: the Justice League, you know, people like that Justice League,

2023
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 3: the Timberlain, that stuff would sound crazy. But keep a

2024
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 3: cat like Unique over that kind of you know, so

2025
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 3: the form of the all stay the same. You feel

2026
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So the saft still there? You feel

2027
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

2028
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: Unique Unique would be the overseer of the music period,

2029
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to bring in all

2030
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: those dude, man, that's a dream come true. That's the

2031
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: way to close the dope for me.

2032
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 3: But y'all deserve that dough Dog y'all motherfucking bone thugs. Normally,

2033
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 3: Like I always tell this man one of my things

2034
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 3: for him, I'm like, man, eight, we need to get

2035
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 3: you one more major album, my nigga, one more major ones.

2036
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 3: These ones is dope. He drops some incredible material. But

2037
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 3: this nigga's nasty now than he was when he first

2038
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 3: came out. You feel what I'm saying, ain't nothing change,

2039
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,759
Speaker 3: you know why, just get better with time exactly.

2040
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: But think about your little brother when you're working on

2041
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: that album. That's that's a bucket list right there too,

2042
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2043
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 3: Like that ain't nothing but a conversation dog that.

2044
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, this dude, man, I just do it for just

2045
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 4: I'm just one of them niggas who came into hip

2046
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 4: hop because I loved it, and I didn't look at

2047
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 4: it for you know, the accolades and the and the

2048
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 4: fame and the and the money and all of that.

2049
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make records, man, you know what

2050
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I thought I was gonna still be a

2051
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 4: gang banging, dope dealing nigga on the block. Just I

2052
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 4: was gonna make records and shit, I never looked at

2053
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 4: it as being where a nigga has been or where

2054
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: nigga's going to. But you know, we credited, it's been

2055
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 4: here for fifty years. I came into the game early,

2056
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 4: and it's just been the love of it, you know

2057
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So that's what keep a nigga going.

2058
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 4: It's not so much as trying to find that next

2059
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 4: big payday off of hip hop. Is just now with

2060
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: all that niggas have contributed, just to be able to

2061
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 4: be honored and respected as going. Yeah, that nigga was

2062
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 4: you feel me, you know? And sometimes, like you said,

2063
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 4: you see all these lists and you see all these

2064
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 4: motherfuckers with their opinions about who is the greatest and

2065
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 4: who is this and who is that? But how can

2066
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 4: that how official can that shit be? Because my idea

2067
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 4: of the greatest might not be yours or might not

2068
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 4: be steals And that's not the discredit to motherfucker, That's

2069
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 4: what the hell, y'all.

2070
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: At twenty six, twenty one, twenty one, man, that's way too.

2071
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 1: All the matter of opinion.

2072
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 3: But you know what, though, did that come from? Because

2073
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 3: some of these journalists.

2074
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 4: A bro not to cut you off, but who was

2075
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 4: that number one outcast? And no disrespect no, I ain't

2076
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 4: outcast at all, but I listened to more Bone than

2077
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 4: I listened to outcasts. I mean, that's just no disrespect.

2078
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: I loved the outcast, but past a certain era, I

2079
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 4: didn't listen to outcasts anymore because it just wasn't my flow.

2080
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 4: You take their first motherfucking album, banged it all day

2081
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 4: like it was.

2082
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You get me.

2083
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 4: But if you want to compare that to the speaker box,

2084
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 4: you know record, I really didn't bang that as much,

2085
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 4: but you get me. You want to compare that to

2086
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 4: bone thugs in harmony, I banged every each nineteen ninety nine,

2087
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 4: but I banged out that month for the war out

2088
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 4: and my mother, we're.

2089
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 3: So cold as my kids is getting hit to that

2090
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 3: now man. My son to play ball, and my son

2091
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 3: is the fireman. Man, my oldest son. They come playing

2092
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: me some of your stuff sometimes, like Dad, what you

2093
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 3: know about this? I'm like, boy, shit down someone.

2094
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 4: I think the younger generation is starting to maybe appreciate

2095
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 4: some of the beginnings of hip hop. You hear me,

2096
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 4: because I couldn't get my son to listen to shit

2097
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 4: that we played. But just like you said, he'll come

2098
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 4: in here and play some knives he'll play some biggie,

2099
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 4: he'll play some of my shit, you know, I guess

2100
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 4: because sometimes the motherfucker need to be refreshed and they

2101
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 4: years need to hear you know, quality.

2102
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 3: Chris love DJ Quick though like his music, Like Quick said,

2103
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 3: I like Quick got the beats or talk about Quicks

2104
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 3: beats and stuff, so he getting hip, but you gotta

2105
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,839
Speaker 3: remember for them, that's like us listening to our appearance records,

2106
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 3: like when my mama played Curtis Mayfield in the House

2107
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 3: al Green. I grew up loving that MU two and

2108
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 3: now I probably listened to fifty to fifty nineties hip hop,

2109
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 3: nineties early two thousands hip hop, and more Al Green

2110
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 3: and more oldies than anything else.

2111
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, I listened to the oldies too. And

2112
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: just for the record, if I was making the list,

2113
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: it'd be run DMC would probably be the first one

2114
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: on my list.

2115
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Speaker 3: I mean, you were just saying that yesterday. You know what,

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01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 3: bro I was arguing with the Glasses the other day

2117
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 3: because Glass as a baby, you know he you know,

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01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 3: he a grown man, but he a baby in his

2119
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 3: hip hop stuff. Right. He was trying to argue me

2120
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 3: that l L was way more of a fact than

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01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 3: run DMC. I said bro l L was the man,

2122
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 3: but he didn't come to the man until after run

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01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 3: DMC had left the throne almost then. Was the first

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01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 3: cast that had a shoe deal Dog. They were the

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01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 3: first ones that had Adidas Deal Dog. They were the

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01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 3: first ones. They dominated MTV when MTV first came out.

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01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 3: That Walked This Way record was probably one of the

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01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 3: biggest records, was the biggest look for hip hop at

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01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 3: that time, and had that record not been made, hip

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01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 3: hop probably wouldn't win as far as it did because

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01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 3: to introduced hip hop to mainstream America.

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Speaker 1: Glass is my bro too, but I would tell him

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01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: watch Crush Groove. It was just saying run DMC. Them

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01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: was demanded. They was headlining back then. And then LLLL

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01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: had to come in with the little Radio Fox, remember

2136
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: that ship Fox. He had to. He had to.

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01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 4: That's how russelling Them found ll and signed him to death.

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01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 1: He had the audition for his that.

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01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 4: Was basically like his little uh his promo. The Beastie

2140
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 4: Boys was in there siying him to he had I

2141
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 4: needed a beat out. Yeah. They figured, man, what better

2142
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 4: way than to promote our first fucking artists. Yeah, put

2143
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 4: him in the fucking movie. It was brilliant. But run DMC, like,

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01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 4: you gonna get the argument because it's fifty years and

2145
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 4: you know nowadays they got so many you get me,

2146
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 4: there's so many groups and there's so many, but I

2147
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 4: think you have to give it to run DMC because

2148
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 4: it's like they they they show the motherfucker as far

2149
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 4: as a group is concerned, how you really can make it,

2150
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 4: and they made use the first tough times of him here. Yeah,

2151
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 4: what motherfuckers was like hip hop is this way.

2152
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: They only played that ship on Saturdays, and.

2153
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 4: They were able to break down the barriers of being

2154
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 4: able for four niggas like Outcasts and Wou Tang and

2155
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 4: comptence most wanted in n w A. You get me

2156
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 4: without them setting the motherfucking path and kicking down the

2157
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 4: doors of the stereotype all of nigga music and he

2158
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 4: thug motherfuckers.

2159
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 3: You gotta understand where hip hop was at the time. Like,

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01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't think n w A got rated nowhere as

2161
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 3: high as they should.

2162
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Dog because they did. Man that they did.

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01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 3: You know, the run n w A down as low

2164
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 3: as they did Dog was almost like disrespectful because to me,

2165
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna put the top five together. I'm always

2166
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 3: tell people it don't matter where you number that because

2167
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 3: I can't say one is great than the others. But

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01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 3: you have to have in your top ten. Man, if

2169
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 3: you don't have motherfucking n W A, motherfucking E, P

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01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 3: M D, right, motherfucking just all those pivotal groups.

2171
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: Man, boys, boys, all these.

2172
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 3: People do because those people are the reason for the season.

2173
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 3: You can't have fucking C and D before A and B.

2174
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 4: Bro.

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01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like them lists that ain't nothing but

2176
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: a list. Man, Like.

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01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 3: Yes, run DMC motherfucking thing, you know, even the Wu

2178
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 3: Tang clan. But to me, Bone is worthy of that

2179
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 3: top ten consideration because after you get past all of them, right,

2180
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 3: run dmcas and all them things, you come up into

2181
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 3: that early like late nineties. Dog, you got to put

2182
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 3: Bone there because that was like the next evolution of

2183
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 3: hip hop because it brought a new flow in. Wasn't

2184
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 3: nobody everything was March and the March, and then to

2185
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 3: been the thing that saying with them that came to

2186
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 3: say that's brother, y'all came with them, you know what

2187
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And it was so fresh, but you understood

2188
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 3: everything y'all was saying, and that ship was so dope, dog,

2189
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 3: and the music was melodic, you almost smoke. You be

2190
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 3: right down the streets like, well.

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01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: All I gotta say, man, is you know we ain't

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01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: done yet, So you know they could, they can, they

2193
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: can reserve their opinions for when we're done, because you know,

2194
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: to see a list like that make me pick up

2195
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: the phone and call my brothers, like, y'all, y'all want

2196
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: to show these niggas who do what you know what

2197
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we ain't done, so they and it

2198
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: really don't matter, man. I've been able to take care

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01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: of my family off this whole.

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 4: I say that about all the times I think about

2201
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 4: I got fucked and money stolen and all that shit,

2202
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, I go, you

2203
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 4: know something, my son going to college. I'm still able

2204
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 4: to wake up every morning and do something that you know,

2205
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 4: I don't regret as far as God damn, I gotta

2206
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 4: get up today and I got it. You feel me.

2207
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who where it's nothing against

2208
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 4: the average motherfucker. There's a lot of motherfuckers who you know,

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01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 4: it's a lot of people who have to get up

2210
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 4: and go through that show. Yeah, we blessed me, so

2211
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 4: to be blessed to be able to do something that

2212
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 4: you enjoy and and you know, you get to go

2213
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 4: on trips and you get to meet other people, and

2214
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,440
Speaker 4: you know the perks of comes with being an entertainer

2215
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 4: sometimes and you know you wouldn't traded for nothing. So

2216
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 4: we go through the roller coaster rides and sometimes to

2217
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 4: disrespect and sometimes not feeling like motherfuckers, give us all

2218
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 4: props for all what we have done for fucking hip hop.

2219
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you go, so.

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01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 1: I go, you know what, so what right, it's a blessing.

2221
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good, you feel me, I'm good, And none

2222
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 4: of that shit matters any.

2223
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 3: What they need to do, they need is start coming

2224
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 3: to the people really in the coach and asking about

2225
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 3: them list because to me, it would be like somebody

2226
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 3: coming to me asking me to make to create the

2227
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 3: top one hundred oldies of all time. I'm gonna feel like,

2228
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 3: in a way, I'm not qualified. I'm gonna go talk

2229
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 3: to my mama, my pops, my uncles and asked them

2230
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 3: what was going on because I didn't live in that time.

2231
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 3: So some of these little niggas that might be twenty

2232
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 3: twenty one. They don't understand the impact that a bone had,

2233
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 3: or the impact that a Wu tang or run DMC

2234
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 3: for that matter. To them, it's ancient. And I didn't

2235
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 3: realize how old hip hop was. The Glasses told me

2236
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 3: one day because we were talking about sampling, and he said, no,

2237
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 3: big bro, that's too old. You got to go back

2238
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 3: to Warren Z. I said, Warren G and them was

2239
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 3: just Yetter that's biting dog. And I thought about it.

2240
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 3: I said, that shit was twenty five thirty years ago.

2241
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 4: Dog.

2242
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were sampling the ship out of Roger and them,

2243
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like it, uh all the

2244
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: funk that shit thirty years later, we were sampling them.

2245
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 1: So and that's why I did the mixtape that I did,

2246
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 1: because I wanted the new artists to know that we

2247
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: appreciate them, you know, going in the crates and find.

2248
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 3: That motherfucker, so I could put it in our description.

2249
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:28,600
Speaker 1: I got you.

2250
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 3: I got put links in the description, man, so we

2251
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: don't help you captive here long enough. Man. We appreciate

2252
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: y'all hanging out with us once again, right yeah, and hey,

2253
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,640
Speaker 3: y'all make sure, man, we gonna put the link to

2254
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 3: that mixtape down there. Man, make sure y'all go bang

2255
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 3: that man and go support that and go flood doctor Drey's.

2256
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if Trey too rich to fuck with

2257
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 3: Twitter anything. Yeah, playing a staff and ship that. So

2258
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 3: y'all just make sure y'all hit Dre up man telling

2259
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 3: them we need that bone thud collaboration.

2260
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: Man, Man, please do you know what I'm saying? Let

2261
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: him know, Dre. I'm letting you know right now. Min

2262
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: we here, if the opportunity is there, were there?

2263
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and we gone. Jill Well. That concludes another

2264
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to

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01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:17,800
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01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,000
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2269
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 3: podcasts of Norman Steeled, Aaron M. C a Tyler. Our

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Speaker 3: visual media director is Brian Whatt, and the audio editors

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