1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullims with John 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: O'shans and Brian sexty Jacks Drive Time and starts right now. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: You're third. You have a brother third down and said 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence with time all times. That's time, great protective bridge 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: and swings the dark. But he's got Bardi kick till 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: love go, Got go, bro go my receiver, Colin Johnson 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: miked up into Jaguars first preseason game. Can check out 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: all the micup features on Jaguars dot com. Doing good 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: work weekly, Mat Hokman, it is well, get go, Welcome 10 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: in Jaguars Drive Time on a Thursday morning. We're starting 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: to get into this regular season schedule, getting each to it. 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: I think we're on Wednesday next week week all right, 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: where Monday, Wednesday, Thursday? Write it down long time, yeah, 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: right before we start, before we start big things. I 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: know you wanted to say a little about John Pete, 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: who was a long time defensive court coach here defensive 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: coach with the Saints um he was the defensive coordinator 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: in two thousand two, which was Tom's last season. Hey, look, 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: you know and John and I've done this a long time. 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: You go through this league. You make friends, and then 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: friends leave and they go other places, and sometimes you 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: can't appreciate them until they're gone. And John's been gone 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: from here since two thousand two, so almost twenty years. 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: He lived in Jacksonville Beach for a long time. Used 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: to see him. He'd come down to games when he wasn't, 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, intermittently coaching in different places. Um. But he 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: was always energy in the room. He was always that 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: guy who wanted to know how you were doing. And 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: he cared about the big picture. What are fans saying? 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: What you know, what's going on in the community. I 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: heard something about what happened, you know at this school 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: or that football game on Friday night? He cared, Uh, 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: And we're all richer having people like that in our lives. 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: So many condolences to the Peace family because John Peace 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: not always a terrific football player. At one point the 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: field at the University of Cincinnati was named in his honor, 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: but he coached with the Dome Patrol. John back in 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the Saints days was really tremendous coach and tremendous person. 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: And sorry to see him leave. Yeah, he uh. In 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the early days of the Jags, there was something about 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the honestly the special on the field, and it was 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: also special for people because there was the interest was 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: so intense, and I was working for the newspaper at 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: the time, and you did stories on everybody because everybody 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: wanted to know anything about the Jags, and so you 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: got to know those guys. We were in Steven's point 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: with him. But the thing I remember about John is 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: he would uh roller blade around the stadium as his 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: work at and uh it was it was impressive because 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: he could rollerblade, and I Slyn once rollerbladed and is 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: that the past tense roller blade rollerbladed and was was 52 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: proud to have been able to make it for my 53 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: garage the five feet over to my pickup truck before falling. 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: So that was about the extent of my rollerblading. But 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: John could do it. And uh, kidding aside. He was 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a guy who little offbeat, but he didn't really walk 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: the same walk as a lot of NFL coaches, meaning 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, he was just sort of his own guy, 59 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and I liked that about him, and he was one 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: of the people that made that time so special. We've 61 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: lost a couple of coaches from that stuff, like Mas 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach. He called Michael the white receivers 63 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: coach John Peace now, and that's just tells you how 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: long a Jaguars had been going at this thing. But 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: John Peace was one of these guys who was not 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: scared of Tom Coughlin shrug it off. He was not 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: scared of him. So it was fun to watch. And 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: and when I saw that last night, it just come 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: took me back. And I'm sure some of our viewers 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: will remember John Peace and one of the good guys, 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: and those assistant coaches sometimes their name, they're not famous 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: people that get forgotten. I didn't want him to be 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: forgotten in Jaguars story. Very nice message, both you thoughts 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and prayers to his family as we get into big things. 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: And big thing one is next New Orleans Saints preseason 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: game is next Monday night on the road. Is there 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: such a thing as a bounce back preseason game, because 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: this really does feel like that. I don't know if 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that exists, but if it ever did, it's for the Jaguars. 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: They want to bounce back to second preseason game and 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: they want to see more from their offense, which leaves 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: us a big thing too, which is now in this moment. 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Head coach Urban Meyer wants more from his team, specifically 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the offense and what they show. So much. I hear, 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: we can't show this cat show this, can't show this cancer. Yeah. 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it, but I want 87 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: to go some tempo on these to some certain things. 88 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: You'll see more of it as we get moving forward. 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want what you saw is not 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: what we're gonna be, and I gotta get it. We're 91 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: right out of the shooting. I think sometimes coaches, we 92 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: can't we can't show this, we can't show that. I'm like, 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: why tell me, explain to me why? You know? So 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: I annoyed, which I'm the worst at up but not 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: all everything Well balance, they're big thing three is not 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: cut down Day earlier this week roster bringing down to 97 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: eighty five players. Tim Tebow being one of those players released. 98 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Cutdown Day is always a tough day for any coach. 99 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's special teams. You know you're this whole 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: roster management is really critical as we journey here and 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. You know offensive players that 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: you know two of the special teams phases are tackling 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: and you're never tackled. That's what I found myself and 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I still find on myself, all of us. You know, 105 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: every every off day, we'll have a two to three 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: hour meeting about roster management when it comes down, because 107 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: we expect to be very good in a special teams, 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: the tight end positions. One of those tailbacks, if they 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: can't contribute on special teams, that's a tough go head 110 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: coach Urban Meyer explaining why Tim Tebow was not the 111 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: best fit at the tight end position will start right there. 112 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: It is um, it's you gave him a chance. He 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: did the best he could and it didn't work out. 114 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Nothing ventured, nothing game. Yeah, And you know, you guys 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: know me, I'm a little bit of a cynic U. 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I scoff at things. I'm known to scoff and I 117 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: was never a guy when Tebow was playing. Uh, when 118 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to play quarterback, I didn't necessarily think he 119 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: was going to be a good quarterback. I was. If 120 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: there was pro Tim and anti team back in the day, 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I probably sided with anti Tim, you know, but there 122 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: was nothing wrong with this. And the people who scoff 123 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: and make fun or whatever. Look, he gave it a shot. 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: It it's a ninety man roster. There was nothing wrong 125 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: with seeing if it would work. Uh, as long as 126 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: when it didn't work, they didn't let it linger and 127 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: locker room. The players were going, Hey, this is not 128 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: gonna where. This is a bad idea. So you know, 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: I guess the cynic in me tells the other cynics 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: just stop for a while. It's okay, move on. He tried. 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: He's by any measure, a good kid. They gave him 132 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: a shot. It didn't work out. I have to give 133 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you a big picture, right, I mean, so this is 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: why so many people were polarized on and and we're 135 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: never surprised when we hear stories about about Tim Right. Um, so, 136 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: no players yesterday, no locker room. I escaped generally, you 137 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: guys know, sometimes I try to go to Daily Mass 138 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: at Immaculate Conception. So I did, and the priest there 139 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: is a long time Gator and a huge Tim Tebow fan. 140 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: So daily Mass the five minutes to share a message. 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: His was, I'm mad at the Jaguars for cutting Tim Tebow. 142 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there in my teal shirts. Right the 143 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: only guy I felt like I was the only person 144 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: there is He is just he is mad and he 145 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: was railing about it, and I'm thinking, really, this is 146 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: what we're doing. But he was. He's such a passionate 147 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: football fan on the outside, and he saw me there. 148 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: He just again, I don't know that he was directing 149 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: it to me, but it sure felt that way. That's 150 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the sort of passion and Tim isn't even Catholic. It's 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: sort of passion that Tim Tebow drives. So we shouldn't 152 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: be surprised that there were people that loved it and 153 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: people that hated it. But Tebow time had its moment, 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: and now it goes back to him doing the great 155 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: things that he does off the field. Right, and head 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: coach Omra, when you look at it, did the right 157 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: thing because it could have been where he has the 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: relationship with him and he keeps him here. But when 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: you look at it and it's a strictly football decision, 160 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand how people who say they're Jag Wars 161 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: fans can be upset with that because it's impacting the team. 162 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: Everybody was, you know, there was this fear of, well, 163 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to see it because 164 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: he likes Tim so much. You know what, urban also 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: likes winning, so he wasn't going to keep somebody if 166 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: he didn't think he was going to be a good 167 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: football move. I thought all along this was a much 168 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: I never thought it was particularly a distraction like people 169 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: talked about. I don't think there's any harm in it. Uh, 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: it's over a move on. Okay, speaking and moving on. 171 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: We'll move on to big thing too, which is speeding 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: up this offense showing more in the preseason. It's a balance. 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: You could hear from head coach Urbamier that he was 174 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: a little frustrated with finding that balance. So I think 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: we can expect for the second preseason game you're going 176 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: to see more from this offense. We just don't know 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: how much. I think it's been a little bit of 178 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: a um confusion here about what Urbans talking about. I 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: took this to mean, not necessarily that he wanted to 180 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: see more wrinkles offensively, he wants to see more urgency offensively, um, 181 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: and and he wants to see them get to the 182 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Quicker. Uh that pot We all saw 183 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer offenses in college. They moved quickly, they moved efficiently. UM. 184 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I think some people took that as what they're gonna 185 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: show all their trick plays. You're gonna show every formation 186 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: that they have. I didn't see it that way. I 187 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: think you will definitely see them trying to get the ball, 188 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: snap quicker, trying to just play with more hop not 189 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: necessarily more wrinkles. Well, I mean you said, I know, 190 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I can add a lot intensity, urgency, energy, all of 191 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: those fit. He wants to see them be more efficient. 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: He wants to see them do what they do and 193 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: just keep moving along. I know he he told you 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: right there in the sound by that he's the worst 195 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: among coaches when it comes to be paranoid of showing things. Right. 196 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: He's not gonna show you all that much more. But 197 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: if you have ten plays, he wants to see all 198 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: ten of them run like that play one play, to 199 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: play through it and just go right through it. And um, 200 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: it just seemed a little hurky jerky the other night. 201 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Seemed a little you know, start and stop. It's in 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: and you could expect that from a first preseason game. 203 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: When I when he did expect it. Yeah, when he 204 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: said that in his press conference, though, I caught myself 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: when he was saying, we're going to work on this 206 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: in practice there's going to be urgency and practice. And 207 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, this is the most urgent I've 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: ever seen a training camp practice. How can you make 209 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: it more efficient? But we did see that this week. 210 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: It was taken to the next level, and I didn't 211 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: even know that was possible. Yeah, there was definitely an urgency, Brian, 212 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: you can speak this as much as I can. On 213 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: uh last day, we're right there. Tuesday, much more fiery, right, Well, 214 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: that was made possible by Monday's practice where it was 215 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: it was. I saw guys as we were standing there 216 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: getting ready to do some interviews, I saw at least 217 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: three offensive linemen come off the field looking pained, right 218 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: because and and we you know, ostensively we picked on them. 219 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Everyone was pointing the finger at them, um, and so 220 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, they worked harder. But it wasn't just the 221 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: offensive linemantil Monday. They have this intense session Tuesday, the 222 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: intensity came from the players, not the coaches. That was 223 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: that was the transition there. Monday, it was the coaches. Tuesday, 224 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: it was the players for sure. 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I'll go first, 268 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: going with the wide receiver. It's kind of been my 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: thing lately of training campus. How are they going to 270 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: decide who gets the last spot in the wide receiver room? 271 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Philip door Set or Jalen Camp take the seventh wide 272 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: receiver spot, because in my eyes, I think the first 273 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: six are locked in. DJ Chark, Colin Johnson, Marvin Jones, Laviska, 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Chanal La Kwan treadwill gotta have a spot for jamal 275 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: A Knew. That's six seventh a lot. But you gotta 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: pick one of these guys, and I think I'm going 277 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: Philip door Set. Do you take the speedy for age 278 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: and acquisition or do you take the draft pick? In 279 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: my mind, Brian, I think Philip door Said has shown 280 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: more he's been He hasn't been practicing consistently until this week. 281 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Didn't play in preseason game. Don't know if you will, um, 282 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: but every time you think I haven't seen much from him. 283 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: You hear from a coach, you know, you hear a 284 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: coach saying no, no. I like him like a speed, 285 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: like what he brings. He's a veteran guy. Um. Just 286 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: for the sake of this other side, I interviewed Jalen 287 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Camp for a feature that's going to be up on 288 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: the website in the next day or two. UM. I 289 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: liked him a lot, you know, confident, smart kid played 290 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech. Came from a triple option offense, which 291 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: again they don't get many opportunities to catch the ball 292 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: when all you're doing is running. But played in the 293 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: spread his senior year and did a really nice job. 294 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: He's absolutely gonna be on the practice squad, I think, 295 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: because you've got a couple of big bodies up there, 296 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: it's harder to find the guy like Dorset with real 297 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: speed um as opposed to a Jalen Camp. But Jalen 298 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Camp is a guy who's worthy of a practice squad 299 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and might find his way to the active roster before 300 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: the season is done. Yeah, I would be stunned if 301 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Philip dor stays now on the roster. I probably would 302 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: have if I was phrasing this question. I probably would 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: have had at Colin Johnson or Jalen Camp. I think 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Dorset would be ahead of tread Well and Johnson from 305 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: what I've seen, went in what he's gonna bring it 306 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: only because of this ash. He's fast and this team 307 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: these coaches love speed. They brought him here for a reason. 308 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Um So I definitely think Dorsett makes the team over Camp. 309 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: But I agree with Brian. I think the thing you 310 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: have to remember about this whole fifty three man roster, 311 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: we get so caught up in at n I do 312 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: two and we're gonna side there sixteen practice squad guys. 313 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Most of these guys were talking about are also going 314 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: to be around. It's a sixty nine man roster in 315 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: reality this year. Yeah, And I catched myself. I was 316 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: thinking about Colin Johnson. But then you also think he 317 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: has something that the others don't have, which is that 318 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: big body he stands out. So you catch yourself. Okay, 319 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: can you really get rid of that? Absolutely? I don't know. 320 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: I get stressed about it. I'm not gonna lie. Well. 321 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: You may keep you may keep fewer tight ends. You 322 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: may keep you running backs, you may keep fewer defensive backs. 323 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: You find a spot for Agnew if you as a 324 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: return man, and they're certainly going to do that. The 325 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: question mark becomes, do you find for an extra receiver 326 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: or not? We'll see, we shall see, all right, John, 327 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: you are up, I'm up, and uh, my obsession with 328 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: Walker Little continues. Um, Walker Little. Okay, we'll phrase it 329 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: this or that. Walker Little will work with the first 330 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: team or the second team on Saturday. Um, and I'm 331 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: couching this a little bit. The first team is coming 332 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: at some point, but I don't think it's coming this 333 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: week for him, because what Urban Meyers said about Walker 334 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: Little on Monday when he spoke the struggling with the hands. Uh, 335 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: the grades in the reaction from people who really watched 336 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: him play on Monday was not what sort of the 337 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: fans saw, and and even what I saw, I came 338 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: out of the game thinking they gotta put Walker Little 339 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: on the starting lineup. Talking to Tony Boselli on this 340 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: set on Monday, he said, Hey, he's going to be 341 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: really good, but his hands right now, his hand placement 342 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: is really an issue. May not be ready to start 343 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: right now. So it's coming. I don't think it's coming 344 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: this week. His rest for the first team, but we'll 345 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: see I've been wrong with four grin I I don't know. 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: I'll say second team only because the coach and Tony 347 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: both were on that side. But I called the game, 348 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: so I couldn't follow what the left tackle was doing. 349 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: But I do recall when I was looking down, he 350 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: had his guy way out of the way. I think 351 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: there's a really high bar that they want him to 352 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: clear before they put him in, before they're completely comfortable 353 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: with him. So I think they're going to point out 354 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: all of the things that they really don't like about 355 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: Walker a little game, and so I think they're gonna 356 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: make him work even harder to get his time with 357 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: the ones. And they're really in a mode of making 358 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: these rookies are I mean, yeah, make him Trevor Lawrence 359 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't start and yet so I mean, yeah, Walk for 360 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: a little sure, isn't Yeah. I just I get that 361 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: sense that that that they are really gonna be But 362 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I think when I look at him, I think he's 363 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: one of your best five offensive lineman for sure. I 364 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: will say. When we heard coach Meyer say that in 365 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: a spress conference and he had a critique on Walker, 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: little us how dare you I'm so not used to 367 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: hearing these things something negative. Why is he's saying this? 368 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: And maybe on the bust and can't get struggled with 369 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: hand as a rookie? Right, all right, Brian, what do 370 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: you got? Um? C J. Bethord to Gardner Minshew gets 371 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: the number two snaps and you know, I mean, I 372 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Minshew because of what we seem 373 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: in the practice field. But look, if you're the coach, 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: made a big deal when we first saw winners and 375 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: losers day that you're charting and success. The chart is objective, 376 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: well objectively, there's no competition. C J. Bethord was much better, 377 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: much better than Gardner Minshew last week. So I think, 378 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, playing with your question, I think you should 379 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: get snaps with the number two group against New Orleans 380 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: on Monday night. Let's say you I think he probably 381 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: will um, and he probably will yeah, And I think 382 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: something intelligent to say, didn't have anything, but he he 383 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: he looks so much better the other night. It was unusual. 384 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 1: Gardner usually does not look the part as well as 385 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe a Trevor Lawrence is going to, but he usually 386 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: plays better than that. So I do wonder if they 387 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: will give him one more shot with that second team. 388 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he if he is as unproductive 389 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: again as he was the other night US. But I 390 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: think you get I think it's only fair to see 391 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: j to give him one. You know, I'd give him 392 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: at least one series with the ones, maybe to start 393 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the second half. I I'm even talking about that. I 394 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: don't even talk about thirteen of sixteen. I'm just talking 395 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: about the arm talent actually do with his arm um. 396 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: And look, we've known Gardner Minshoo does not have a 397 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: big arm. Can't make all the throws. Bethard looks like 398 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: he can't. But I'm hesitant because I do think C. J. 399 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Beard should get the number two. But then you hear 400 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: coach Meyer who is so complimentary of Gardner Minshoo. 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So he will have 446 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: people talking about him in twenty seventeen, Johnny Might McCall. 447 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: He was thought to be a first round pick coming 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: out of Washington, then he tore his achilles, and the 449 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Eagles still took him because of his potential in the 450 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: second round. Um, I think you'll have people looking at 451 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: him and talking, hey, there's the Sydney Jones has taken 452 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: him a while that he won't beat out c J. 453 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Henderson Because as good as I think this kid is, 454 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: he c J. Henderson has special skills and we saw 455 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of that last week against Cleveland. Um, 456 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: but he might knowing how all this coaching staff wants 457 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: people to earn the job, and with the COVID situation 458 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: and them working to get c J back into the program, 459 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: they might make him earn it and beats Sydney Jones out. 460 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: And I think the Jaguars defense will be just fine 461 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: with Sydney Jones for a time. Henderson is a better player, 462 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: but Jones is a really good player in his own right. 463 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: When I see Sydney Jones and I don't I have 464 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: not studied him before he was injured. H They say 465 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: the achilles is the injury, I'm like an a c 466 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: L that you never quite get back from Achilles to 467 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: where you might have been. If he was better before 468 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: the Achilles, then he is now. Uh if he's a 469 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: step slower because of that, Again, I don't know. Uh, 470 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Boy was he good? Because he makes players in the ball, 471 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: he has instincts. He is impressive. I don't know. I'm 472 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: sure he's not as fast as he was before, right, 473 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure the quickness is a little bit effective. The 474 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: fact that he can still do it with all the 475 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: problems he's had with that is impressive. Boy, what a 476 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: player he could have been. In credit to him for 477 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: coming back because that is a devastating injury for that position. 478 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: Mike Ryan, who is a longtime athletic trainer here who 479 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: now works for NBC, is their guy. Uh. He once 480 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: explained it to me. The reason why the Achilles is 481 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: so damaging is because of where it is, it gets 482 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: the lowest amount of blood flow of any tendon in 483 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: your body, and so the recovery is never quite as 484 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: good as it might be for an a c L 485 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: or shoulder tendant or something like that. But he he 486 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: made a play on the ball in the end zone. 487 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: He's impressive. He's he's a nice player. He he might 488 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: be this team's best sort of street free agent signing 489 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: in recent memory. Nice way to add it on. Very 490 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: consistent guy, very reliable guy. I will say, all right, John, 491 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: that was a he will, he won't, he might, he might. Yeah, 492 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: that's impressive. With Chris Man hurts um and I feel 493 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: like we've talked about him a little bit on this show. 494 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm repeating, but uh, he will be really important 495 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: to this offense this year and uh he and he 496 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: won't necessarily be that guy that Jaguars fans want a 497 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: tight end. Everbody wants Travis Kelsey, everybody wants George Kittle. 498 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be the devastating 499 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: receiving target. That's not what he was brought in for. 500 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Really really really good blocker, but he might be a 501 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: lot better than they thought. And I'm thinking he might 502 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: catch six seven touchdowns. Um. He has more athleticism and 503 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: more ability to you get the ball than I expected 504 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: when I was reading about him, and and when I 505 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: watched him in Carolina a little bit, I pictured sort 506 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: of a big, hulking blocker type guy. He's got that 507 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: in him. But this is not a guy who's lumbering 508 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: around back there, so he may have just scratched the 509 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: surface on what he can really do. So he played 510 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: basketball at Canisius College in Buffalo, New York. And he's 511 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: a power forward, so he knows how to use his body. 512 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: And you talk about six or seven touchdowns. If he 513 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: can learn how to do that in a football since 514 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: and and you know post a guy up or you know, 515 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: block him out with his body, Yeah, he might be 516 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: able to do that. Urban Meyer told Bucky Brooks and 517 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: myself last Friday in our Barquest production meeting. He just 518 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: moves people. And he's one of those guys you think 519 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: about guys they might rest at all in the preseason. 520 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys they think of him as 521 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: being irreplaceable because you don't find big bodies like that. 522 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: He was very, very impressive at the podium, talked about 523 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, Mercedes Lewis being someone gets studied and talked 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: to um. He looks the part. What he does, he 525 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: does exceptionally well and because of his athletic background, John 526 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: I think he can get a lot better. He's made 527 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: a couple of catches Ashland in practice that when you 528 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: think of the lumbering blocking tight in and and we've 529 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: all covered and seen that guy. He's made a couple 530 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: of catches that those guys don't make, so it's there 531 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: at least once or twice this year, he's gonna make 532 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: catches where people say, why isn't he getting the You 533 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: know he has that sort of potential. Uh. End The 534 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: one he caught the other day was what really struck me. 535 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: He caught one in the corner of the end zone 536 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: where Trevor put it right only he could catch it. 537 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: It was an athletic catch. It was an athletic catch 538 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: towards his body. But it didn't look hard for him. 539 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: You follow it like sometimes, if I'm not mistaken, players 540 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: make athletic catches. You think, wow, he made that catch. 541 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: I never do it again. This looked like something he 542 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: can do a lot and be a thing for this tank. Well, 543 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: you don't think of a guy that big being a 544 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: toe tapper. But if I recall, if it's the same catch, 545 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: he had to work to make sure both feet were ye, Yeah, 546 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: he did a nice job. That was all I could 547 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: think of when I saw that was that's what Urban 548 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: likes about him, And I think it was a little 549 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: unfair when he was brought him for free agency during 550 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: his press conference, and whenever we talked about it, we're like, oh, well, 551 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: he's only a blocking tight end. It was almost like 552 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: the narrative was set for him when he walked in 553 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: this building, and we never thought anything differently until he 554 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: proved us wrong. He'll be a key player because if 555 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: he helps them establish the run and set up play action, 556 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: that is a quarterback, a rookie quarterback's best friend, the 557 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: running game. I mean, it will make the quarterbacks so 558 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: much better, which helps explain why he's such a cornerstone 559 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: of what they want to do on offense. All right, 560 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: last one, he will? He won't? He might present him 561 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: by move day. I'm going Damian Wilson brought in free 562 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: agency from the Kanpas City Chiefs. He will be your 563 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: new starting middle linebackers. What would I say? Might he will? 564 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm making a statement it's darn too and he'll be 565 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: the starting middle linebacker and he won't be the only 566 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: guy who can contribute. I think suddenly, Quincy William Shakille quarterman, 567 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: You're all of a sudden hearing a ton about them. 568 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: This coaching staff seems to love the depth that's at 569 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: this position, So I don't think the pressure is on 570 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: him that he's the only guy that can contribute at 571 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: this position. He might be the reason that Miles Jack 572 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: takes even a bigger step forward. The past couple of years, 573 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Miles Jack has said it's so much press on him 574 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: to get guys in line and worry about everyone else. 575 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: This is a pairing that you feel really good about 576 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: that both guys can do their job very solidly. Can 577 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I add it? He might? Sure, he might might, He 578 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: might might might come a fan favorite fast because this 579 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: guy hits. He is the thumper middle linebacker that you know, 580 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they've had since maybe pause. You know, 581 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: I may be forgetting that. I don't come here in 582 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: the pause pause really good, but um he the word 583 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: on this guy and it's one of the first practice 584 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: he had Travis c. T N where I'm I'm not 585 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: sure they really wanted him hit quite like that, But 586 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: he hits and he has a thumper. His hitting ability 587 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: is the reason that Joe Schobert is one of the 588 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: reasons show if it's not here, this guy really plays 589 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: the run well, Uh, he'll be the middle linebacker in basse. 590 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: He'll probably come out of the field and nicol, but 591 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: he's a guy that fans are gonna like. You're starting 592 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: to hear more about Shaq Corterman from Oak Leaf on 593 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: the west side of Jacksonville. Um Quincy Williams still interests me. 594 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: You talked about big hitters his rookie season remembers Marie Dade. 595 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: He's a swimmer. Not of us know anything about him, 596 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: but the one thing I can recall from from teen 597 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: was when he hit you. I mean he came, he 598 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: arrive with some fours. He can really run as well. 599 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see if he can make progress 600 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: and earn a spot or even on the practice squad, 601 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: because when you're in a three four, as I've said 602 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: for months, you've got to have a lot of linebackers 603 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: at your disposal. So it's it would be interesting to 604 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: me with this new staff to see if he can 605 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: sort of rehabilitate because the old staff was tired of him. 606 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: See if he can rehabilitate his his on the field persona. Yeah, 607 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: kind of a fresh chance for all of them, all right, 608 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: that is he will he won't. 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