1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Charlamagne the guy. We 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: are the breakfast club. He got some special guest joining 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: us this morning. We got Betty the Butcher, Yes, sir, 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: and you but your daughter with you? 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: I did, okay, my June June. 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: She in the music too. 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: No, she ain't in the music. 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: Why she might be okay? You know what she don't 11 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: know yet. 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: She told me she singing by a week ago. She 13 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: surprised me with it. 14 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Wow, But did she sing for you? 15 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: She did? How was it she good? I almost cried. 16 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, we about to do this all over again, 17 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: money all over? 18 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: What made you feel like you wanted to bring you 19 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: your seed with you? 20 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Man? Just I want her to see to be with me. 21 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying this. 22 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 4: She eighteen, right, so she she lived her whole life 23 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: with me and see all of the phases. But she 24 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: really she really don't know what I do. You know 25 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, She really don't know what I do. 26 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: So I think it's a port for her to see 27 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: what I do, for everybody in my family to learn 28 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 4: what I do. 29 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: This is where this money come from. This is my plans, 30 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: This is my this is my hustling. You know what 31 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean. Take this the family. 32 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: You know what it sounds like. It sounds like sometimes 33 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: your kids think it comes too easy. You get it, 34 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: so you have to show them sometimes what it takes 35 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: to actually get the money that puts them through school, college, 36 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: The jewelry, the braces, the headphones that when you say, Dad, 37 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I lost my headphones and you bought me some new ones, 38 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: that it just don't come that easy. 39 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: Exactly, you know what I'm saying. 40 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: And eventually I want I do want her to take 41 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 4: some part of the business. 42 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 5: I feel like there's a lot of self realization, self 43 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 5: awareness on this album, even with the title Everybody Can't 44 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 5: Go self explanatory title. But when did you personally realize 45 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: that everybody couldn't. 46 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: Go with you? 47 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: I mean I realized that when they were going, when 48 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: they were with me everywhere, when I was being around 49 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: people who I shouldn't have been around, you know what 50 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I had to get to the point where, 51 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, you saying a word. No, 52 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: I had to get to the point where I had 53 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: to become selfish again, because you had to become selfish 54 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 4: to a point to take it to reach your goals. 55 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: But I got new goals, so I mean I gotta 56 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: become selfish again another time? 57 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Was it like survivors remorse? Almost because you know when 58 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: when you first start. Of course, if I would see 59 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you out, you out with fifty people, what those fifty 60 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: people come fifty problems? You know what I mean? A 61 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: situation could happen to somebody that you know that is 62 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: just a man's man. Got nothing to do with me, 63 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. But at the end of 64 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: the night, Benny the butcher involved with a fight in 65 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: this club. So when did you realize? What was that 66 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: moment where you'd be like, I can't do this no more. 67 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: Man. 68 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: Basically, you know what I'm saying, when it starts to 69 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 4: affect uh, my hustle, in my livelihood, my freedom, you 70 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, It's like that's the story of 71 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: my life, to be honest with you, you know what 72 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know the back home, the police got 73 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: my name in their mouth. You say that on these niggas, 74 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: these these these chicks, the ops, Like it's I really 75 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: just got to show people who I am and what 76 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: I am. You know what I'm saying that if I don't, 77 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: if I don't, if I don't come around certain places, 78 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: I would never see people ever fuck again in my life. 79 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 80 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: So it's just time to you know what I mean, 81 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: take that next step the boring life. I just turned 82 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: thirty nine, I'm saying, I'm getting up there youtting old like, yeah, niggas, I. 83 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: Was asking did you feel you know what I'm saying. 84 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 6: So. 85 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I was asking did you feel like survivors? Most like 86 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: I made it, but my mans did not got to 87 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: bring them with me, or I felt the way that 88 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I got to show them a different life. Do you 89 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: ever feel that way? 90 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: Man? 91 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: One hundred percent? 92 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 4: When you when you from where you from, a hood, 93 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 4: a collective, a city like Buffalo, you almost take that 94 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: on as a responsibility. 95 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 96 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: But you got to wake up and realize, like nigga, 97 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: that that's not my responsibility. My goal is not to 98 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: get you rich or my goal is not to get 99 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: you out the hood. My goal is to provide an 100 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: opportunity so you can do those things for yourself. 101 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But anything besides that is not on me. 102 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: How do people in Buffalo feel about songs like bron 103 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: Because to me, when I hear it's not like you 104 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: turning your back on the hood. You just feel like 105 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: it's time for you to go experience something different. 106 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: That's it. 107 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Heard the part when I said I told my folks 108 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: back home so long? You know what I mean? And 109 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: that's just what it is. 110 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: And if anybody loved me, and if anybody want me 111 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: to succeed any further, they want those things for me. 112 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: And if they don't, fuck them, you know what I'm saying. 113 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 5: Did you know where you wanted to go when you 114 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: when you made that movie? You said someplace warm? Did 115 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: you have a place in mind? Just someplace warm? You 116 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm telling you after this album 117 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 5: going someplace warmer? How did people react to that that 118 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: when they heard it? Well, they haven't heard it yet. 119 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna see him. 120 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lose a couple of friends, you know what 121 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's gonna be tweets and and whatever. You know, 122 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't care at this point. 123 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: You came up here about a year ago. I don't 124 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: even know when you came up here. Did you talked 125 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: about your new deal with deaf Jam because at time 126 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think you were signed with 127 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: def Jam, or you did it but you didn't announce 128 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: it yet. 129 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Well, you announced the album in February of last year. 130 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: When I came up here, I think I was because 131 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: we were talking about how you get the paper yet 132 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 4: remember he wasn't hit last year. 133 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: It was. 134 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: So for people that don't know you were Snoop's first 135 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: signedee on Death Jail, How did that come about? And 136 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and it was I think people assume Snoop will go 137 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: West Coast first, but he went with y'all. So what 138 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: was your relationship with stupid? Why did he do that deal? 139 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: And why death. 140 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: Jaimul I told my this story, but let me tell 141 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: his side of this story basically because it's it's crazy too. 142 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: Is that that's what he's saying at the end of 143 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: the song yep. 144 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: Y'all know when he first came to Depth Jam, he 145 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: asked them, like, yo, who y'all want? Who y'all been 146 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: trying to get? And he said my name, So he 147 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: been you know, he snooped, So he wanted to show 148 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 4: them like I'm Snoop. 149 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Watch what I do. 150 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: So he sought after me, you know what I'm saying, 151 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: And you know, he a og and and he speak 152 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: my language. So the things that he said and the 153 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: advice that he gave me led to me signing with 154 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: Depth Jam when we were already trying. We were already 155 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: in talks for about a year and it wasn't going. 156 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying it was a moving he says on the album. 157 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: It took fifteen minutes. 158 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: It was a fifteen minute phone call, and after that 159 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: it was done. It was That's real. 160 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: It was. 161 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: It was less than fifteen minutes. He was just saying 162 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 4: that for you know what I mean, it was less 163 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: than fifteen minutes. 164 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: What was it? Was it a number he gave you? 165 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, it was the number we ain't even going, 166 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? It was the number yes, 167 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: And guess what you know what I mean? Like like 168 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: the first number was was good, and the second number 169 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: was was was double that. But I just felt like, 170 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: you know, I brided independent for so long, so I 171 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: just felt like, if I'm gonna go to a label, 172 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 4: it gotta be for this, you know what I'm saying. 173 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: And it got to be at this place and for 174 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: this number, so you know it really was a rocket 175 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: science made it happen. 176 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: What other resources has he provided other than the money? 177 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: Because I love the song back again like you you 178 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: snoop perfectly on that record. He killed that hook. But 179 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: what other things he provided other than money? 180 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: Input, input, advice? He opened his doors up, you know, 181 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: things like that. That's all the artists could want, you 182 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because it's other places like like 183 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: you know, I'm still coming up, so those things are 184 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: not prevalent in other situations, you know what I'm saying. 185 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: So when he do it, you know he's a West 186 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: Coast guy. Like you said, he brought me to depth jam, 187 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, It like on some East 188 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Coat shit. So you know, other people could have done that. 189 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: Other people could have made that fifteen minute phone call 190 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 4: for me, but it didn't happen. So that's what he done. 191 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: You know, that's more than enough. 192 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: I will never understand why New York executives find it 193 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: so hard to sign New York talent, Like why did 194 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: it take dre and Am to get fifty? Why did 195 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: it take young Money to get Nick Nikki? Why did 196 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: it take Chasing to get Bennie. It's weird to me. 197 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: They chas him, man, they chasing what they what they think? 198 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: They gotta know what I'm saying. I don't know. You 199 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 200 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: When when when the diamonds and the juices right in 201 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: there on the backyard, they chasing. 202 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times too. Like you said, 203 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: it's your sound was so different from what was out 204 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: at that time. People didn't necessarily hear the sound at 205 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: that time. I was gonna ask you, what's your sound 206 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: like listening to your album? There's no album like that 207 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: right now that I've heard where it almost brings me 208 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: back to era of the mixtape days and kids growing 209 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: up with. It's an intro, it's a hard So how 210 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: is your mind framed when you did your debut album? 211 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Because this is your first album on death. 212 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: Jam really it I just wanted to I just wanted 213 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 4: to show people that that I'm refined, Like this is 214 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: what I do on all levels. That's that's how I 215 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: describe it. It's refined hustler music. It's still the same 216 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: butch that people used to But you know what I'm saying, 217 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I'm smarter, I'm wiser, you 218 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm still hungrier, I'm richer, you 219 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like things are going to 220 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: my life different, you know what I'm saying. So my man, 221 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: my mind frame. I wanted to show that in the music. 222 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to show my 223 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: move That's why I name that everybody can't go. 224 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to. You know what I'm saying, I'll be 225 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: having to show people what the fuck is going on. 226 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 227 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: I still feel like you don't get as personal as 228 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 5: you could, and I wonder is it because of statute 229 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: of limitations. 230 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought about that too. 231 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: A lot of things I speak on the surface because man, 232 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: I got I got another five years to ten years 233 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: to tell people what the fuck is really going on. 234 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: And I can't wait. I can't wait to come back 235 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: up here and talk about what the fuck is really 236 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: going on right now? What I'm saying. But you know 237 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: what I mean, I don't. 238 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 239 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: I don't break the law and no ship like that. 240 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: That would be dumb. But you know what I mean, 241 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: It's it's a lot going on, man. 242 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. It's a lot going on. 243 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 5: Because I remember hearing Jez say that one time, like 244 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: I forgot what album it was, but whatever the project 245 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: was the statute of limitations of it and he felt like 246 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: he could even he could express himself even more. 247 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: But I but I do want to say, I do 248 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: feel like I'm being harassed what I'm saying. I believe, yeah, 249 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: Buffalo yet say that what I'm saying. And I just 250 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: found out I'm on the FBI watch list. Back home, 251 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: they raided my studio about two months ago, Like you 252 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean, I haven't even been home in 253 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: three months. I don't even know what the fuck is 254 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: going on. They hear my name, these niggas is running 255 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: their mouth talking I'm the biggest shit that ever happened 256 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: to Buffalo since the Wings and Josh Allen, Like for reals, 257 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 4: it's getting crazy, man, It's getting crazy, And I really 258 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: want to I almost want to just like to have 259 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: a lawyer send an email to these niggas. 260 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: Man, It's just like, what the fuck. You know what 261 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying? Is my client doing that? 262 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: That got y'all digg high like that that y'all want 263 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: to keep messing with him, keep bringing his name up, 264 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: because if y'all y'all got TV, I got Instagram. I'm 265 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: pretty sure. I'm pretty sure when I see who watch 266 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: my stories? You know the pages were no profectfile aged 267 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: dance somewhere. 268 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 269 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: I'm not a fool, so I don't post nothing like that, 270 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: and I don't do nothing like that. It's just I've 271 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: been hearing that since I was since twenty fourteen, though 272 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 4: before anybody heard anything from me. You know what I'm saying, 273 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: when we was knee deep in this shit phone ringing 274 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: every day whole crew, I kind of understand a little bit, 275 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: but I gotta be dumb to be doing that. 276 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: Type of shit, you know what I'm saying. 277 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 5: You know what's so interesting? You hear rappers say that 278 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 5: in name music all the time. You're the first person 279 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: I've ever heard really say like, hey, man, leave me alone, leave. 280 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Me white flag. 281 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Man. 282 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: I'm waving a white flag. Leave me alone, man. We're 283 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: doing movies. Music emerged. 284 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: That's it. 285 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: You ever thought about really having a sitting maybe sitting 286 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 5: down and having a conversation letting them I don't know 287 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 5: what y'all think this is, but it's not. 288 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: I thought about it, but I don't know how far 289 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: that would get me. 290 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 4: But I just made some new friends right by the 291 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: name of Al Sharpton and Ben Crump, you know what 292 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I mean, they don't make me get 293 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: my boys on the phone, you know what I'm saying, 294 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: Like for real though, but it might be leading to that. 295 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: But then it's also like who would he speak to? 296 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Like what is it aged? 297 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: Dan? 298 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Is it prosecuted this person? Like who is on his neck? 299 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: And for what reason? Now I was going to ask, 300 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is that the reason why you said you haven't been 301 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: a Buffalo three months? You kind of stay away from 302 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: that area because you just don't want to be caught 303 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: up in the bull crap when you got things going on. 304 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I got so much. 305 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: I got so much going on, and I've been blessed 306 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 4: to come from that life, you know what I mean. 307 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: And I promise I don't glorify none of that. But 308 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm really one of them guys. 309 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm really one of them guys. 310 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't mean to discredit nobody else. 311 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 5: But you know what I mean, paid your death to 312 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 5: society exact, let's talk about that. 313 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't want, you know, let's not glorify you paid 314 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: you that this. 315 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: Is exactly so for me to put myself in harm's way, 316 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: meaning with anything and what you put other people around 317 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: me and harm's way, it'll be dumb because you. 318 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: Did fat Time right hell yeah yeah yeah yeah. 319 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah fed Time in State. 320 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm not proud of it because people 321 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't know that if I didn't tell them. 322 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't wear what I've been through on my skin, 323 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 324 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel when you hear other 325 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: rappers talk about some of the stuff that you've been 326 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: through that you don't necessarily have to glorify, but you 327 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: see them glorifying, but you know deep down in your 328 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: heart that they've never lived the day of some of 329 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: the things that. 330 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: Really I don't even care, man, I don't even care. 331 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: It's like, if that's what you want to glorify, if 332 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: that's what you want a part of man, congratulations, man, 333 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: you you were a dummy, you know what I'm saying. 334 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: And Dunky had to day for niggas man for real, 335 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: because it's like it's two sizes of that. It's two 336 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: sizes of that. We don't we done lost our brothers. 337 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: It's people who supposed to be here with me right 338 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: now today, who ain't gonna witness none of this because 339 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: because of those things. 340 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: It's my blood brother is gone, machine Gun Black is gone. 341 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 342 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: She she really ain't even get to know her uncle. 343 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: It's like, man, who would want to who would want 344 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: to glorify that? Who will want to be a part 345 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: of that? Honestly, Like the first thing, the first thing 346 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: I think of, I thought of when we made it 347 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: this far, making this money off off legal shit. It's like, 348 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: we really ain't have to do none of that ship 349 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: We just had to apply ourselves. That's the first thing. 350 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: And that's what I go back and tell my home. 351 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: It's like, we know, we ain't got to do this shit. 352 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: You know, you ain't got to do that. We did 353 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: it because we thought we had to do it. We 354 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: ain't have to do that shit. 355 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 5: I always tell people, don't judge brothers for what they 356 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 5: did in survival mold man. 357 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: You know, that's that's what y'all knew at the time, exactly. 358 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that that those was the 359 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: opportunities that was provided those those we was being taught 360 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: by hustlers, pimps and the killers. 361 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 362 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: Now, Now everybody successful, not everybody, but you know the 363 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: T shirt guy is successful, the mechanic guy successful, or 364 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: the dude who who cooking, cooking ribs up and cooking 365 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: fool successful, the chick successful. 366 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: Off here, everybody doing it. We ain't have to do that, 367 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: dumb shit. 368 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: When did you see the change in your dad? 369 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 6: When? 370 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: When did that? When did you see that? When did 371 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: you see this dad is a different person. 372 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: M That's it. I feel like I feel like when 373 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 6: he moved to Atlanta, because like at first I was 374 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 6: really like shoogar about it. I'm like, oh, this is 375 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: getting real. I'm like, this is getting serious. I thought 376 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 6: I was gonna be away from him and stuff, but 377 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 6: I still was seeing him. But I feel like when, 378 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: definitely when he moved away, that's when everything started changing. 379 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I said, and what changed you in Atlanta? 380 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: What? 381 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: What what made that that change happen? 382 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: Man? 383 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: Uh, what's not gonna Conway? They showed me that superstar life. 384 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I seen it. It's different 385 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: from somebody telling you about it, and it's different from 386 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: like you seeing somebody. These is my cousins. I seen 387 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: it and they, like I always say this in interviews. 388 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: They was very subtle about it. They wasn't coming to 389 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: me like Yo, we're doing this, we're doing this. They 390 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: were just showing me. They was talking about it. They 391 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: was just showing me. I'm like, you ain't had that 392 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: watch yesterday. You just bought that car today? Like what 393 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: is we doing on this rooftop meeting with these people? 394 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 4: Like we're sitting in the depth gym. I'm fresh off 395 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: the projects, you know what I'm saying. Like these boys 396 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: really showed me and I'm like, oh, it ain't no 397 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: motherfucker way I'm gonna be back in the hood doing 398 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 4: no dumb shit, Like it's time to get it. 399 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: Hold on, that's crazy. 400 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: So you was the last person to accept that because 401 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: it felt like Bennie was the forefront. 402 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: I was the last person. They had everything going on. 403 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: They was already they was already the deal was already 404 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: signed when I came around. Before I signed my Grisel 405 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: Dia deal, I'll tell you about it, like they try 406 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: to like I signed my Griselda deal, and they, uh 407 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: they changed the dates on the paperwork to try to 408 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: make it seem like I was signing Griselda before they 409 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: did shady, So I been under the shady umbrother. 410 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: But the ink was already trying. 411 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: Don't even say that. 412 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: That's what happened when I when I, that's what happened. 413 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: That's that's real shit, that's forgery. 414 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: That's real ship. You know what I'm saying. That deal 415 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: was over now. We could talk about it now, but 416 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: that's real ship. That just buzz trying to include me 417 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: and everything. 418 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: But uh, I really I was the last one. 419 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: That's great. 420 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: I mean, by the time Grisel did hit the streets, 421 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: of course, we it just felt like Bennie was at 422 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: the forefront. We knew all of y'all knew what Conway, 423 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 5: but it was a talk about Benny the budget because 424 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: I grabbed a baton. 425 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: I grabbed a baton because they showed me, and all 426 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: I wanted to do was like I wanted to live 427 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: up to the standards of what was going on. I'm like, Okay, 428 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: I see I see this. How you carry it? Wait 429 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: till it's my turn. It ain't take me long. 430 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: So you was rapping, of course you clearly, but you 431 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: was rapping before that. You just didn't believe that it 432 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: could happen. 433 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 434 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: I was just you know what I'm saying. I was 435 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: just one for then one for out, like the song 436 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: say like one for them, onet for out. 437 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You know that's that's a disease. 438 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Once that once that get 439 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: on your back is hard to get it off you. 440 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: I mean I would go ask you about that record 441 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: because I feel like you're talking about existing in the 442 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: music business, But where's the other foot. I don't want 443 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: to say that the other foot is a life of 444 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 5: crime because I don't think you were in crime. 445 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: I just think that you might have still been in 446 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: the street. 447 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: That's it. 448 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: That's it, Like I said, I was, I was one 449 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: for in the game. After that freestyle with Flex, I 450 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: was one fit in the door at jay Z House 451 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: with West. I mean that, like when I'm doing that 452 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: freestyle with Reflex, I was like, you know it was 453 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: it was I was still doing things I probably shouldn't 454 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: have been doing. 455 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: He's going back to the block after exactly, you know 456 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 457 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: And then but by the time, by the time I 458 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: had that meeting the Sign of rock Nation, I was like, 459 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm in the landing now, like baby Girl said, and 460 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: I'm doing what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. 461 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: And tunnel vision. 462 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: Real shit, what was that conversation Like at Wholes. 463 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: It was basically, you know, he describing Benness like he's 464 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: making future plans about Benness. We can do this, we 465 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: can do that. I was watching it, so it was 466 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: another it was another moment of realization, like what's going on, Like. 467 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: Oh, you got a real opportunity. 468 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: Cause first when you get in the game and you're 469 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: doing underground music, boom bap, how we're doing it? You 470 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: don't You don't think you could. You don't think you could. Uh, 471 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: you know, shoot as far up as we've done. But 472 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: that was another moment like, nah, they gonna let you 473 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: have this shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, if 474 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: you do the right thing, you can have this shit 475 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: if you want to. 476 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: And one time, there's a lot of people don't know 477 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: even tho we've talked about this before, but you know, 478 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 5: people learned something new, even if it's the same thing 479 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: you've said in the interview. 480 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: Before, but you and Emery was locked up together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 481 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: we was locked up together, man. And it's like just 482 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: to be sitting with him and kicking it with him 483 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: on the other side, Like, man, that just that do 484 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: something to me. You know what I'm saying, That do 485 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: something to me? And I just realized how how strong 486 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: the power of God is and the power of hustling 487 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: and having good family and friends around. 488 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: You know, did y'all building? 489 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: No, he didn't. You know, I left him alone. He 490 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: was you know what I'm saying. He was hoes. 491 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: Man. 492 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: I ain't want to be one of them guys, know 493 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But like I said, like he knew 494 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: who I was because you know. 495 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. We was doing hot shit in there, 496 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 497 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: And I just just feel good to just bump into him, 498 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: like yy, I was in that spot with you know 499 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 500 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: I look at him. 501 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: What are those conversations like now? Always giving a game? 502 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I talked to eat a lot. 503 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: I'm saying, us smoking, you know what I'm saying on the 504 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: balcony at the Rock Nation offices, just chopping it up 505 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: about family, and the conversations are rarely about music, rarely 506 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: about music. Out of a two hour conversation, we probably 507 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: talking about music fifteen minutes if that. So, just getting 508 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: that game an insight on how to maintain life on 509 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: this side. 510 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: You know what, I love that doing one of the 511 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: most solid humans. You promise you, and I promise you. 512 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you. Things slowed down at 513 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: one time, and one time it was all about Gazelle 514 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: that it was everywhere, and then it slowed down a lot. 515 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to see it back again. What was 516 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: that slow down for? Was it to regroup or was 517 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: it to do an album? Was it to take a 518 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: step back? 519 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: Definitely to regroup, Like I haven't put an album out 520 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: of two years, you know what I'm saying. 521 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: So definitely that. 522 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 4: And uh men, these niggas been copying, these niggas been 523 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: watering everything down and we and we've been We got 524 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: so successful that where the support was coming from, it 525 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: kind of it kind of people backed up because we 526 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 4: was about to take over all of this shit, just 527 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: like we did anyway, you know what I'm saying. So 528 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: you know that's how people do when they see you grinding. 529 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: They see you about to snatch the trophy again. You know, 530 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: people dive back on you a little bit. 531 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: I feel like that. I can't speak for Wessell Knaway. 532 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: I kind of felt like people dial back on us 533 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 4: because they're like, man, you know, this is getting out 534 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: of control them buffalo niggas. You know what I'm saying, 535 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: it's getting out of control. But you know, Wes, he's 536 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 4: still doing what he doing. 537 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 538 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: I believe he's going to be in the next five years, 539 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: maybe sooner. I believe he's going to be designing from 540 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: for a major designer real soon on. 541 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: Wait. 542 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: He just He's always been the top spinner to me, 543 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: and he still is. You you'd be high pressed the 544 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: name five niggas who can get in the ring with 545 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: him and me. I'm just a butcher, you know what 546 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So you know, Devil Jim Dill. You know 547 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying about that, this is my first this 548 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: is my first major label album. 549 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 550 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: People like you say, Charlamagne, people forget about that because 551 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: the run we had. I never dropped a major album 552 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: in my whole life, and this is the first time, 553 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: so we're still climbing. 554 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: Was there any internal issues because on the album, you know, 555 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 5: you seem like you went out of your way to 556 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 5: let people know Griselda is still together. You speak on 557 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: people wanting to see the Triangle break up. Y'all got 558 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: the grill Griselda Express record. Why do folks want to 559 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: want you all to break up so bad? 560 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: Man? 561 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: Because we've been running it for so long. We've been 562 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: running it for so long, and and and uh, you 563 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: know you're sick of seeing that. I think I think 564 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: a lot of artists experienced that. Uh, when everybody was 565 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 4: just on Drake Ass for his album, I think he 566 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: was experiencing that, you know what I'm saying, to even 567 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: a point where the ladies who love him, I was 568 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: hearing ladies. I was hearing women saying's like, yeah, I 569 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: ain't like the last album. I say, he'd been running 570 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 4: it for so long, running for too long. Uh, you 571 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 4: know we've seen whole go through that. Absolutely, I'm saying, 572 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: we've seen everybody, We've seen you. 573 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: Had a long run. 574 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: You're going to go through. 575 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: That exactly, So I want to I think people. I 576 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: think people want some controversy there. They expect that, and 577 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: uh so, you know they when they don't see us together, 578 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 4: they're like, oh man, they must be beefing. Man, we're family, 579 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm almost sick of saying that. Man, we 580 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: could never be broke up. That's why I spoke about 581 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: That's why I said it on the song. 582 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: I remember when Conway was up here one time he 583 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: spoke about financial issues like you. I don't know if 584 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 5: he was saying, what's having a bad deal or something 585 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: like that. 586 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: Man, I don't I really don't know their business. I 587 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: see that interview and I seen him spoke about it. 588 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: Maybe he felt like, maybe he felt like he deserves 589 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: something after after all the foundation work that he did. 590 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, of course I feel like 591 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: he do. But like I said, it ain't none of 592 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: my business. Them niggas is brothers, you know what I'm saying. 593 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: Them niggas work putting the Haul and Ash Part two 594 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: out them, niggas was in them, niggas was in out 595 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: the country shooting a video together. I was JEALOUSI it's 596 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: doing without me for real? 597 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: Do you really think trust is more valuable than love? 598 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 5: That's the record you got on the album. Trust more 599 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: valuable than love? 600 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: And if so, why because love is faulty, Love is flawed. 601 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 602 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: Trust is. Trust is black and white. Either you trust 603 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: somebody you don't. You know what I'm saying. Love is, 604 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: love is not. You know what I'm saying. It's a 605 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: It's a great area with that. And I rather, I'd 606 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: rather be I rather had a trust than had the 607 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: love of somebody. 608 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 609 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: Because I can't depend on your love, I could depend 610 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: on your trust twenty four to seven. 611 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 5: You know, I kind of agree with that because I 612 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: feel like trust is a character like even if I 613 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: don't know you, like that, if I see five thousand 614 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: dollars of yours on the table and I know it 615 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: ain't mine, I ain't got nothing. 616 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: To do with it, Exactly. 617 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: Somebody loves somebody that somebody you trust won't steal from you, 618 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: that somebody you love will steal from your ass in 619 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: the facts. 620 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And people were mad that you said you were 621 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: supporting Trump at one time. Yeah, are you still supporting Trump? 622 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: And what's the reason is No comment on voting for 623 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: Trump twenty twenty four, No comment on that it's looked 624 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: like you having a hard time in that. 625 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: Case right now, you know what I'm saying, But no 626 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: comment on that. 627 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: What I did learn from that situation, people in our 628 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: position ain't supposed to speak on their political candidates. That's 629 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: what I learned. And I also learned everybody voting for Trump. 630 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I didn't vote. Not only 631 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: president I voted for was Obama. So I really was 632 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: just talking shit, you know what I'm saying. But I 633 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 4: was just noticing what I really what I what I 634 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: was getting at that statement is you know a lot 635 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: of times African Americans we vote, we vote Democrats. Man, 636 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: what the fuck that been doing for us? That's all 637 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: what I mean is like what the Democrats been doing 638 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: for us? That I was expressing my frustrations on that. 639 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, I don't know. I 640 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: don't know who I'm voting for. 641 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because there was a time what 642 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 5: you like, you said, you didn't discuss your politics, you 643 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 5: didn't discuss your religion, you didn't discuss who your favorite 644 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 5: rabbit was. 645 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: Out of jay z and uh nas ye. 646 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: You you hear that favorite conversation and you might have to. 647 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: You might have to sit back. You might like, let 648 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: me let them niggas discuss that. I ain't about to 649 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: even say nothing. That's right. 650 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: I like what you said too about fans being too 651 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: focused on criticism. 652 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: Can we back then join the music. 653 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: Do you feel like the lines of blurred between fair critics, 654 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 5: criticism and just hate from people? 655 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: I do. 656 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: I do because I feel like, like, like with all 657 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 4: of these dudes, who all of these dudes who get 658 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: their income tax money and go and go start a podcast. 659 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Now they judging y'all niggas who's been here for years. 660 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 661 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: It's like anybody who get a nigga put a song 662 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: on SoundCloud. Now youre talking about my shit better than Benny's. Like, man, 663 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: slow the fuck down, you know what I'm saying. Just 664 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: respect the art. We the people who made y'all want 665 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: to do it, you know what I'm saying. So respect 666 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: the art. We accept criticism, but for me, it has 667 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: to come from somebody who's who's validated, you know what 668 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: I'm saying, And people gonna say, like, what validate somebody's opinion. 669 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: I've been listening to hip hop for all year. 670 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that might validate your opinion, but you got to 671 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: have a professional opinion for me to take your shit seriously. 672 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: With all of these voices right now that we can 673 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: hear all of these voices from social media, you know 674 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: all of this shit. So and I mean, I don't 675 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm sick of hearing Nigga's opinion. You know what I'm saying, 676 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: I ain't validated. 677 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: Now, what's your opinion on this? Is Dad molde your 678 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: daughter on social media? She starts dating. What's your opinion 679 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: on it? 680 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: This is? This is what I tell her. 681 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: Any guy, any guy you meet, the first thing that 682 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: you call yourself like and you spend the time with, 683 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: the first thing you do. 684 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: Is what aund you bring him around me? 685 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, now, if he disrespected you, 686 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: he disrespected me too. He done got cool with me. 687 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 4: He done looked in my eyes. I'm saying, we don't. 688 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: We don't smoke the blunt together, wash the game together. 689 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: We don't. We don't have some food together. So like her, 690 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: Pop's cool. So when y'all in the heat of the. 691 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: Moment argument, you know, some shit you can't say because 692 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: you know who you got to answer to. That and 693 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: me and you kind of you got a bond, not 694 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: a real bond, but you know you're dating my daughter, 695 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 696 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: So respect that's the first thing you gotta do. 697 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 4: Because anytime I was dealing with a female and her 698 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: dad was in the picture, it was always in the 699 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: back of my head. It's like I can't. I can't 700 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 4: do old school like that. I can't cuss her out 701 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 4: right now, I ain't doing anything like that. And you saying, 702 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: he cool, you know what I'm saying. So I tell him, 703 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That go for my sisters, 704 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: That go for anybody. If you're dating somebody, bring him 705 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: around the men and your family and let them vet him. 706 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, let them get a bond together. 707 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: How do you know? 708 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: And you should bring somebody around, pops. Though you can't 709 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: bring everybody around pot right, you. 710 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 6: Can't bring But it's like when so living with my mom, 711 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 6: her biggest thing was like like bringing them around so 712 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: they can monitor it, you know, so they can like 713 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 6: know them. So instead of me trying to just do 714 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 6: it anyways not yeah, like why not bring my family around, 715 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 6: Why not making a thing for everybody to know. 716 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: You know that's you said something earlier. 717 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 5: What what did you know your father was getting into 718 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: that made you be like you were concerned? 719 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 6: Probably because no, he we're really close though, Like he 720 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 6: really tells me mostly everything, so I didn't have to 721 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 6: like see it from nowhere else or fine, we don't 722 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 6: I have to find out about it from nowhere else and. 723 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: Talk to me about everything. I'm a goom. You know 724 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm a goom. 725 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 4: I probably was calling it up like yeah, you see, 726 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: like you. 727 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: Know that's how I was raised. My mom raised me 728 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: like that. 729 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: My mom front of me my first pack of weed, 730 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So to go tell yeah 731 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: at school how much was it? 732 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 6: Was? 733 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: Probably a couple of ounces. 734 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: How did you ask your mom that like that? 735 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: Like I didn't even ask her. 736 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: Look, I've been a hustler from day one, right, So 737 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: she was giving it to my older brother. He was 738 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: sucking it up. So when she gave it to me, 739 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what you supposed to have been 740 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: doing to me? 741 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: Off rent? You know what I'm saying. So that's I 742 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: learned that from my mom. 743 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: Like I like this, this is really my best friend 744 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: right here? You know what I'm saying, and we communicate 745 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: like that on that level. I let her know what's 746 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 4: going on so she can know what's going on with me. 747 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 748 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 5: So you the generational curse break in your family. Clearly, 749 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 5: I swear I am. You know what I'm saying. 750 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: She next though she graduated high school, she's on a 751 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: she just graduated. She she on a pace to do 752 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: great things. I'm saying, I'm really excited to see what 753 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: she gonna do. 754 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I mean. Me Right now, I. 755 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 5: Want to go back to the rap conversation. Who should 756 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 5: who should be allowed to critique rap? 757 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: Uh? 758 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 4: Definitely definitely the DJs. What I'm saying, DJ's we love y'all. 759 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, y'all don't get enough love, 760 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 4: y'all don't get enough credit. 761 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Definitely the DJs. 762 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: Definitely, the the ogs, the hip hop pioneers who've been 763 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: doing it. Uh, the execs who help people that sex, 764 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: who's seen people come and go. Uh, you know, guys 765 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: like yourself, y'all. Come, y'all, y'all interview artists. Y'all know, 766 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: artists temperaments move y'll probably can interview artists who probably 767 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: ain't hot right now and say, like he out of here. 768 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, He got the right attitude 769 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: so I can keep going on. Definitely, the fans, Definitely 770 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: the fans. Not casuals. Though not casuals like me. You 771 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Buffalo don't got a basketball team. 772 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: I'm really I'm speaking, I'm speaking. I got an opinion, 773 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: but I'm really not spewing my opinion. But if we're 774 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 4: talking about football and everything, I'm spewing my opinion everywhere 775 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: left and right, you know. So definitely not casuals. You 776 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 4: gotta be in this and uh, it's a few more categories. 777 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: It's a few more categories, but definitely not you know, 778 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: people who just who just casual people who just I 779 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: don't know, what's hard to say. I know they're gonna 780 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: be mad at me, but y'all know, y'all, y'all know 781 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 4: your opinion. Don't belong in this shit, you know what 782 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 783 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: I think another problem is, man, a lot of these 784 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: people are really just saying salacious shit to get motion 785 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 5: for their YouTube pages or their podcast. They don't even 786 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 5: believe ninety five percent of the stuff they say. They 787 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 5: just think talking reckless about somebody or yeah, talking I 788 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: don't want to say hating, but just. 789 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 4: Talking about somebody is gonna get the most one hundred percent. 790 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: That's why you you you one hundred percent right. And 791 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: I meant to say that that's why the opinion shouldn't 792 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 4: matter because somebody just trying to put the first funny 793 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: viral comment that's right on a picture or on a 794 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: retweet so or a reex what you call it now, 795 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: it's called X round it, you know what I mean. 796 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: So that's all they want to do. They just want 797 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: to be funny. They just want to, you know what 798 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: I mean, have fun. 799 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: But all is given validation too, because sometimes artists go 800 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: see them, whether they're a podcast or a blogger, and 801 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: they have no real resume out there. They give a 802 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: shot an opportunity which boost their careers, and sometimes that works. 803 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think a lot of the interviews and 804 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: everything now are not even about the music, you know 805 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Just like you said, we're watching these 806 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: interviews pop up. Interviewers pop up out of nowhere, and 807 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: they not talking about music. They just it's jokes on there. 808 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: They get to see a different side of the artist. 809 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: So I do like it, but it's like you know, 810 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: it's it's really no validation. I don't got shit to 811 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: do with the music, you know what I'm saying. Respect 812 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: to those guys, but a lot of them podcasts, like 813 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: a person like me, don't belong to no where the 814 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 4: fuck on there. What I'm saying, if when you talk 815 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: about the music, I don't want to be on there 816 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: laughing and joking with niggas and you know what I'm saying, 817 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: trying to make me go viral, none of that. Actually 818 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: I'm not that guy, you know what I'm saying. I 819 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: want to talk about the music. That's my strong point. 820 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the fucking music. And because you know, 821 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: a lot of niggas, a lot of niggas get niked 822 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: when you talk about the music, because ain't no Jews, 823 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: ain't no accolades, ain't no nothing. The niggas who sold 824 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: the most records in the world, you know, they can't 825 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: stand in the room with the real spinners. They don't 826 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: want to talk about that. They want to talk about 827 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: the Ferraris and all that type of shit. And I 828 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: get it. I hate to be the old school guy 829 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: saying that, but shit getting on my nerves. 830 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: Man, Can you rap? 831 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: Is what you're saying. 832 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: Can you fucking rap? We know all about that. Can 833 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: you fucking rap? Stop hiring behind all that dumb shit. 834 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: That's why I appreciate. I liked your conversation on raperidor. 835 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: I likes your conversation with Looney on this It's Up 836 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 5: There podcast. 837 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: That was a good one. Yeah. 838 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: It was focused on the music, and anything that you 839 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: talked about was rooted in the music, right. 840 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: But I understand it though, because to be a superstar, 841 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 4: you got to have scandals. 842 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You got to have scandals 843 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: on your name. 844 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: You gotta have like you got to have the break 845 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 4: up rumors nowadays exactly. 846 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, nowadays, you got to have all that type of 847 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: shit attached to your name. So I get it. 848 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: And ship with Detroit, yeah I knew before you go there. 849 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: See what's your relationship with the Tree? Seem like Detroit 850 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: hold you down the line, and it seems like you 851 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: love Detroit a lot. And I see a bunch of 852 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Detroit artists on the album. 853 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: Because Buffalo Buffalo is kind of right over them. 854 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: It's kind of Midwest I'm saying I got the mid 855 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: West vice from the way we talk in a way 856 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: you know, we grew up in that era, so this 857 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: is how our music sound. But a lot of them 858 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: young kids right now, Buffalo sounded like Detroit. You know 859 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They sound like they're from the Midwest, 860 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: So you know what I mean. I was taking trips 861 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: back and forth to Flint when I was a shorty. 862 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: So when we respect them dudes, man in the fans 863 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: like we we being there with Detroit dudes, all that 864 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: type of shit. So it's definitely some correlation there. 865 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: Why can't you and Freddie Gibbs get on the same 866 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 5: page because I know y'all had the altercation. But then 867 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: recently I saw his ex posted picture you two all 868 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: hugged up together. 869 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: Why many? 870 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: Why? 871 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: Almost cracked up laughing. But I gave her chain back, 872 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: That's the whole girl. I'm really a nice guy. I 873 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: gave her chain back. Or somebody reached out was like, yo, 874 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: she might she want her chain back, and I gave 875 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 4: it back to her. Then she came to my birthday party. 876 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: That's it. 877 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: She was called in the middle of some shit that 878 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: she ain't had nothing to do with you know what 879 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And she probably thought I was a devil, 880 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: but she get to see that I'm really a nice guy. 881 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: And that's it. 882 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing more or nothing less, you know what I'm saying. 883 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: I see she put that song out. Academics were saying 884 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: I wrote the song. I ain't write that fucking song. 885 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 886 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even hear the song. Yeah, I wouldn't. Wouldn't 887 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: do No. I wanted people do that, like I don't. 888 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: I don't like, come on, like I'm pete for real, 889 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: Like I'm not like going write no song just because 890 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: she got her issues with him, don't make it seem 891 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: like me and her best friends. Now she wanted her 892 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: chain back and we got to know each other and 893 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: she's hung out. 894 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 5: You think you and Freddie could ever? Like just no, 895 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: damn no, hell no. And one time y'all were cool, right, Well, yeah, I. 896 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: Wouldn't even call it cool because of the record. Yeah 897 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: we did a record. I maybe thought we was cool. 898 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, people and people will 899 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: be asking me that, but I ain't even keep talking 900 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: about this shit. But it's like, man, you don't do 901 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: that shit. You know what I'm saying that people you 902 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: cool and that's just and that's just it. You know 903 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I really don't have no problem with him. 904 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: He never done nothing to me in life. I have 905 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: no problem with him. It's just that I would be 906 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: goofy and the people who I make my music for 907 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: will look at me goofy is if I will stand 908 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: next to him, you know what I'm saying. 909 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be honest with you. 910 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: I don't remember what y'all issue, right, So that's my 911 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 5: points and when when you might remember it because it's 912 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 5: personal to you, But for me, I don't even remember. 913 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: So if I saw y'all piece it up, I'd be like, 914 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: that's good. Two black men, y'all. I understand that they 915 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: bygones be bygone. 916 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 4: But it is bygones to me, Like people can say 917 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: that right now. You know what I'm saying, It is bygones. 918 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. The fans they want to 919 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: pick us against each other, and I get it. You 920 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's entertainment for them. You know 921 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, It's entertainment for them. They they wasn't 922 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: in Buffalo when this shit happened. 923 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 924 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: They baby Mama not popped up at you know what 925 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying, So they don't give a fuck. They wasn't 926 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: in Houston when I got shot, so they don't give 927 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: a fuck about what happened. So I understand it. They 928 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: want to be entertained, but I'll be telling them too. 929 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: It's like, stop, I don't got no problem with that man. 930 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that man got no problem with me. 931 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: He might, you know what I'm saying, but it is 932 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 4: what it is. I don't give a fuck. 933 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: You think if you had said that previously, then that 934 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 5: situation probably wouldn't have happened to Freddy in Buffalo. 935 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: If you're to say, yeah, I don't have no problem 936 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: with that man. 937 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: I did have a problem to him until that happened. 938 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: That I was cool. Come on, honestly, I feel like 939 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: you got you get back. It's good. Honestly. Damn. 940 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: Now, you said this is gonna be album of the year, 941 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 5: and you're supposed to feel that way. 942 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: Why do you think this is the one? 943 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 6: Uh? 944 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: Because my music is always anticipated like a motherfucker. 945 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: These dudes be dropping. These dudes, I'm one of the 946 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: most anticipated artists. Every time I drop. You feel what 947 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I think that helps me. Everybody been like, well, 948 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: my fans, you know what I'm saying. You know when 949 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: you dropping, when you're dropping, when you dropping, they almost 950 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: getting sick of me. But I think that helps the 951 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: anticipation and the hunger for it. That counts for everything. 952 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: And I got that on my side. Nobody drops first quarter. 953 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I got that in the bag. 954 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: My nigga ep told me that. You know what I'm saying. 955 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I got that in the bag. 956 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: You know I'm saying. So, it's really not a lot 957 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: going on. And uh, you know what I mean. And 958 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking ship. I'm with I'm with the uh the 959 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 4: producers who I get the most, I get the most 960 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: feedback with I get the most and hit the hip 961 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: boy alchemist, you know what I'm saying. So I got 962 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: I got all my superpowers working in one spot. Uh, 963 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: I'm at I'm at a major now. You know what 964 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying, gett an extra push. You know a lot 965 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 4: of people say that don't mean ship that man, that 966 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 4: that means ship. You know what I'm saying. That means ship. 967 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 4: Don't you notice everybody who tell you don't sign to 968 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: a label after they rape the labels for the money. 969 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: And you ever noticed that and. 970 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Then they like, yo, don't do it and that and that, dude, 971 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: mean that they telling you because they've been there and 972 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 4: they learned from that. But like y'all rape them for 973 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 4: a minute. Now y'all saying don't do it, let me 974 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 4: get some of this money. 975 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: You don't get to a situation like you look at 976 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: artists like an NBA young Boy, a little Dirk or 977 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: Nli Chopper that was never a radio type of artist 978 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: like yourself, or you're gonna go to the point where 979 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna make a radio record because all 980 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: those artists have made a radio record after being underground, 981 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: like we see it in the n L E. Child, 982 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: when we see it with Derek, you know, is Benny 983 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: the Butcher gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna 984 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: make a radio so a record that I can hear 985 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: for show for show. 986 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: Because on my next album, I'm going with the ladies. 987 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 4: I don't give fucking nobody saying you know what I'm 988 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: saying I'm working out. 989 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 990 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: You see, they got my two braids slick down. I mean, 991 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 4: I'm going with the ladies. I don't give funck about 992 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: none of that. You know what I'm saying. I got 993 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: to theyve been asking I'm doing I'm doing female songs, man, 994 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 4: after this album, not all female songs, but I'm doing that. 995 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 5: You said on rap Radar podcast that you still stand 996 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 5: on your tweet about having the best depth Jen released 997 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: in DMX, but last night you I think that was 998 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: last night. 999 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: I saw it recently clarified that. 1000 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 4: Basically, I wanted to say, you know what I'm saying, 1001 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: respect to the DMX and his family and everybody like that, 1002 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 4: But what I meant was, I'm creating a jam moment. 1003 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1004 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 4: These people, these people who get on Twitter and like 1005 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: first and foremost these bogs post that ship to get 1006 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: the reaction. I'm sick of I'm doing that. I'm sick 1007 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 4: of all of these Internet fucking weirdos. You've seen that 1008 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: post that picture they posted, uh a Jada Pinkett. 1009 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, how y'all think she look at her new look? 1010 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: Y'all know y'all posted to get people talking. 1011 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: That's what I call it, the Worldwide Nigga Net. 1012 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: That's exactly what no parts of the Worldwide Nigga So 1013 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot of things I say, but 1014 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: the the blogs posting that to get people up in arms. 1015 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: But you know they're not in it. They not in 1016 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: these meetings, They not in these circles. You know what 1017 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like they love to have me in 1018 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: that dev GM building. Like I'm been here the fucking butcher. 1019 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, one of the if not the top 1020 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: underground artists in the past few years at a major label, 1021 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's what they needed. 1022 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's a resurgence over there. 1023 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 4: So that's what I was talking about. I'm gonna have 1024 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: a dev Jam moment. I'm saying, we don't remember, we 1025 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: don't remember no artists devjam moments, So no hip hop 1026 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: shit in a while. 1027 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: And that's just that. And that's what I was speaking 1028 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: to you know what I'm saying. 1029 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 4: And I know when X was dropping those was a 1030 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: dev gam moment for me when I was shorty, So 1031 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: that's what I was talking about. And When I say that, 1032 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: people were like, yo, uh what about whole or what 1033 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: about this? Or what about Kanye's album? Like, that's what 1034 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 4: I mean. You know what I'm saying. 1035 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch with of the moments I was speaking on. 1036 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: What was the moment for me? You know what I mean? 1037 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 5: It's funny too. You gotta couple of Cat Williams references 1038 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: on the record, so I. 1039 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: Feel, you know that's right, right, right right, that's crazy, man, Man, 1040 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 4: shout out Cat Cat. 1041 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 2: He was on the ram page. 1042 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Man. 1043 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: You think everything he's saying was true? 1044 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think there was some truth, and 1045 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 5: I think there was some things that weren't. 1046 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 4: I don't think it was not entertain too, though you 1047 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: ain't not entertaining. I think it was a lot of 1048 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 4: truth in what he was saying. But you know, he 1049 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 4: was up there talking his ship. 1050 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1051 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 3: I just hated the intention was the truest part of it. 1052 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely. 1053 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: You can tell them niggas was getting on his nerves, yes, 1054 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: And you could tell he was like, you know what, 1055 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 4: I'm about to go up hearing Friday these niggas. 1056 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, you have a relationship with him, 1057 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: but you just like him, That's why you was referencing them. 1058 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: I never met Cat. I'm a big fan. I'm a 1059 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: big fan of Cat. I never met Cat. I've been 1060 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 4: at dating a couple of times. I was locked up 1061 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: with a couple dudes from dating, so I could see 1062 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: like his character in them, you know what I'm saying. 1063 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: I see where he gets it from. But I never 1064 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: met him. A big fan of the. 1065 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 5: Question, why not do any lady records on this project? Like, 1066 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 5: why not get people how it's going down on this one? 1067 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 5: This is your debut with death. 1068 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: Jim Man that that's not where my energy let me. 1069 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 4: That's not where my energy let me, and I let 1070 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 4: the energy lead and uh maybe towards the end of it, 1071 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 4: I thought about it, but I didn't. I didn't concern 1072 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: myself with it too much because that's not where my 1073 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: energy let me. But I see that's where it's going 1074 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: on the next one. But you know what I mean, 1075 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 4: it wasn't there. I just want to I just wanted 1076 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 4: to put my foot further down on these niggas. 1077 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: What else did you mean when you said it's not 1078 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 5: a lot of respect of being a rapper right now. 1079 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 5: You don't get a lot of respect being a rapper 1080 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 5: right now. 1081 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 4: But because back in the day, only the cool, talented 1082 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 4: guys rapped, not a nerves rap, I'm saying, now whores 1083 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: rap now, no lame niggas rap, you know what I'm saying. 1084 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: So it's just just another job. It used to be 1085 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: like the cool shit. It's just another job now, you 1086 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Trust me, I'm blessed and I'm 1087 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 4: thankful to get here because I started doing it when 1088 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 4: when it was a cool thing to do. I'm saying, 1089 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 4: you know, it's really not that cool no more because 1090 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 4: everybody watered it down. 1091 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 2: But I wanted to get it. I want to get 1092 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 2: it back to cool. 1093 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at those guys because you know, they 1094 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 4: putting food on the place for their families and everything else. 1095 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 4: So and I think that's the dopest thing you could do. 1096 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 4: It's just just not that coolness. 1097 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: Its easy accessible. We see it with DJs, We've seen 1098 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: it with podcasters. We've seen it. It's you know, people 1099 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: could just pick up a mic and do it and 1100 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: they think it's cool exactly. And now back to the X. 1101 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: You know that that one year that X released the 1102 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: album in the beginning of the year in the end 1103 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: of the year. Is that what you're thinking about doing too? 1104 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: Of course? 1105 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 4: See they ain't let you you right see you on that. 1106 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 4: I'm definitely dropping another album this year, and it's all 1107 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: for the ladies, not all for the ladies. 1108 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: You said it three times. I'm going to do a 1109 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: song or two. 1110 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: For the ladies. 1111 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he trying to put me over there, but I'm 1112 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 4: definitely going to I'm definitely trying to get that record 1113 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: with Sissa Uh, Summer Walker, Coco Jones, uh Man, all 1114 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 4: the dope female artists that I listened to. Man, I 1115 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: want to get a record with them, you know what 1116 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1117 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 5: I kept hearing about the record Conway had that was 1118 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 5: supposed to be like a female friendly record, but it 1119 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 5: never dropped it. 1120 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think so. 1121 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: I know that Uh that record that that fab on 1122 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: the Uh it was like it was like, it's a 1123 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: bad boy record that he just dropped. 1124 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 3: That's the record boy record. 1125 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: But that record you just dropped, yeah, boogy on there. 1126 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: Hold on, let me see, I don't remember that one. 1127 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: It just had a bogy on that, right, He just 1128 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 2: dropped it. 1129 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: You're not talking about my ship, are you? 1130 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 6: Oh? 1131 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: You know the Joy with King Kombs? 1132 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one. 1133 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 4: But Conway was on that record first. Really know what 1134 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 4: I'm saying, So maybe that's what people talk about. 1135 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: The record was tough, I was, he was on that 1136 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: record with them, but that was his, it was his record. 1137 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 4: I never heard I think I never heard like the 1138 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: fat verses until the song came up. 1139 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 2: But Conway had two verses on it. 1140 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 3: Wow, having like a producer gave to somebody else. 1141 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 4: Man, I don't even know, Like, I don't even like. 1142 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: He just played the record for me one day and 1143 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that's dope. When not coming out. I'm 1144 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: saying he never said nothing about it. But I don't 1145 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: know what happened with him. 1146 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 5: You know, my good brother whole Vane, God blessed the 1147 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 5: dead man, Like this was ago. 1148 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 3: He let me hear a record with you and Drake 1149 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: and it was hard like Drake was. It was. It 1150 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 3: was great, it was he was snapping, he was even 1151 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: in his back, Like what happened to that record? Man? 1152 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: I got lost in the sauce? 1153 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 3: What I used to have it on my phone? 1154 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 2: I got it that's where it's at. 1155 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 3: That was years ago. That had to be like three 1156 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 3: four years ago. 1157 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they got lost in the sauce like a 1158 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 4: like a bunch of records do I got a record 1159 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 4: with Meet that nobody never heard. And I actually did 1160 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 4: the record with Meet like mm like a week before 1161 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: I did the record with Drake. You know what I'm saying. 1162 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 4: I got a whole I got a record with Nas 1163 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: the world never heard. 1164 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: Really hold him boys the hip boy produce it. 1165 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 4: Yep, him boy producer. It's it's clearing these records. That's 1166 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 4: what it is. It's the next level of the business. 1167 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: I got a record with Scarface with the mechanics. You 1168 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 1169 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: I got some records that I'm saying I'm waiting to 1170 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: come out. 1171 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: Who produced the record with Drake? 1172 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 4: I want to say forty. I didn't know for a 1173 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 4: long time, but I want to save forty. I think 1174 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: I heard back that forty produced it. 1175 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: He just lose it. He just lose the record with Drake. 1176 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: He not out of the world. 1177 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 4: It just think it just think get clear. I don't 1178 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: think it was the right place the right time. I've 1179 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 4: been saying that for like for three years now. What 1180 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying he used to get cleared though, who else 1181 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 4: is his decision? 1182 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: Right? That's crazy, that's what I would. That's I don't know. 1183 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 4: Maybe was it like I said, when when when people 1184 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 4: were trying to get like right now it's people who 1185 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: got features with me trying to put them out, Oh 1186 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 4: you know the label like hell no, now it's not 1187 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 4: the time. 1188 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what he was going through. I don't know. 1189 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: That's a bit the part of the business people don't understand, right, 1190 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: That's what member Buster Rhymes was upset at one time 1191 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: because Drake didn't clear it. But Drake got an album 1192 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: coming out of You got album coming out, somebody want 1193 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: to clear it? You're like, not right now? 1194 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1195 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: Because and I'm sure the labels like not right now. 1196 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: We need everything focused on this project. And then by 1197 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: the time it comes around. 1198 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 5: So I think there's a Buffalo in Canada. They all 1199 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 5: they got a relationship too. Could Buffalo's right there right there? 1200 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: Definitely? 1201 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 4: Definitely, man shout out car no official, man, you know 1202 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, he's been running ship down there first 1203 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 4: hell yeah, first one flag. I's got a couple more questions. 1204 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 5: You feel like there are certain stereotypes of misconceptions about 1205 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 5: being a rapper that contribute to the lack of respect 1206 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 5: you feel like rapper getting. 1207 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 4: There mm hmm yeah, hell yeah. I feel like, you know, 1208 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 4: people get to see too much of one side. You 1209 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Uh, the negative ship. When I 1210 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: say negative, shit, Like, people got to realize that when 1211 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: people talk about guns and drugs, it's always not negative. 1212 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 4: That people just speaking on what they've been through, just 1213 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: like any other thing. But you know, a lot been 1214 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 4: going on, Rappers been dying. 1215 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: Uh. It's like, I don't think they get to see 1216 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: enough for both sides of these artists. You know what 1217 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1218 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 4: I love that that young boy did that interview. He'd 1219 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 4: been doing interviews lately, so they can see different parts 1220 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 4: of him. 1221 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: I love that, except for him saying he's not big 1222 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: on fatherhood. That was crazy. 1223 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 2: I ain't see that part. 1224 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one with Bootleg cab One you're talking about. 1225 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: Damn we said that. I don't know. 1226 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 4: He probably got his reasons, man, you know, baby mothers 1227 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 4: are crazy. 1228 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 5: That definitely, you gotta be big on fatherhood. You can't 1229 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 5: say you're not big on fatherhood. 1230 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1231 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 4: Man, you know he probably feels like man, he providing 1232 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 4: and everything, and you know what I'm saying, still going 1233 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 4: through problems, but fatherhood. Fatherhood is definitely a gift and 1234 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: a blessing. And me, I don't, I don't got a 1235 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 4: lot of kids all over the place, not saying that 1236 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: he do. But when you got a level, that's a 1237 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 4: lot of kids, yes, but when you when you only 1238 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 4: got it, we only got a few couple, it's easier to. 1239 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: Do things like that. 1240 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 4: So I can just imagine having a bunch of having 1241 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 4: to deal with uh, different women, energy and all that 1242 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 4: get crazy. 1243 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 2: But I feel like, man. 1244 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 4: People got to see both sides of an artist, and 1245 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 4: it's on artists to show people that because and it's 1246 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 4: on the people too, because everybody asked me, like, Yo, 1247 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 4: there shooting in Buffalo. You ain't do nothing. You ain't 1248 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 4: do this, You ain't. I did so much. You know 1249 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, y'all just ain't paying attention to it. 1250 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 4: So people gotta go look, No, don't gotta go. Look, 1251 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 4: they just got to acknowledge the positive things that rappers do. 1252 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 4: It really don't get a lot of airplay because you know, 1253 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 4: you know, they they focused on the evil shit. They 1254 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 4: focus on the dumb shit. We'll tell them now. The 1255 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 4: mass shooting in Buffalo happened in the grops. 1256 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, tops, I was in Buffalo that day. 1257 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 6: Uh. 1258 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 4: I donated money, I did a song for it. I'm 1259 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 4: still in the process of doing things right now. I'm 1260 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 4: planning on doing the free concert this year in the 1261 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 4: city for it. 1262 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 1263 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 4: I'm going to court with Ben Crump and I'm saying 1264 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 4: the next court date MM sold t shirts uh and 1265 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 4: and didn't keep none of the money. Like I said, 1266 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 4: I did the song and ain't keep none of the money, 1267 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 4: donated all the money off the song again, went on MSNBC, 1268 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 4: the top rated news cable show on your Iri Melbert 1269 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 4: on TV. You know what I'm saying, and spoke about 1270 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 4: it and brought awareness anything else. 1271 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: I hate that, man. I hate the fact that you're 1272 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: even saying that. 1273 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,959 Speaker 2: That's your city. 1274 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: That's just you did it. You did what you did 1275 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: for your town, not for publicity. You did it because 1276 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: you're from there. You love the people out there, and 1277 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: that's all that's matter. 1278 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 5: Strange to me, though, because they want rappers. They don't 1279 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 5: have a problem with rappers rap about how much jewelry 1280 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 5: they got. They don't talk to care how much money 1281 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 5: and cars you got. If I talk about my community 1282 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 5: service or money I donated to a good cause, like 1283 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 5: I don't speak about that. 1284 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 3: Why not real ship? 1285 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 4: And you see with me and Dion Dawkins did we 1286 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: we did a piece. We did a piece on my block. 1287 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying after that, like bringing, you know, 1288 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: because you know Buffalo is a white city, you know 1289 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Bringing, And they big Bills fans, So 1290 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills helped me bring awareness to what was 1291 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: going on on our side of the city. 1292 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: You know those Buffalo Bills fans too. 1293 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 4: His fans over there who've never been to a game, 1294 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 4: never been to Orchard Park, and uh, you know we 1295 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 4: want an Emmy for that. 1296 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Over Derek Jeter and Eli Manning. 1297 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Wow, just speaking about what 1298 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 4: happened in Buffalo, bringing more awareness to it, you know 1299 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's what I've done. But you know 1300 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 4: people don't care about that, and people speak and people 1301 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 4: speak it like it's a fact. 1302 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 5: Man. 1303 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 2: You ain't do nothing. 1304 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 4: Man, how you call yourself from Buffalo and you ain't 1305 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 4: do nothing like I'm like bro like you wrong and 1306 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 4: loud and as fuck. 1307 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you wasn't tapped in real shit. 1308 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: Let's get into a joint off the album. Man, what 1309 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: you want to hear? 1310 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: H man? 1311 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 4: I would like to hear. Let's play bron Man, Let's 1312 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 4: pray bron Let's do that. Let's get into that. 1313 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll get into that now, Benny the Butcher, 1314 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: quick question and people that don't know, how did you 1315 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: and little Wing get up a big dog? 1316 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: Oh man? 1317 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 4: Shout out macnah McMain, he middleman. A whole bunch of 1318 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: my records with Wayne. You know what I'm saying. And 1319 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 4: that's the first thing I do when I need a 1320 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 4: Wayne record, I hit Mac and Wayne told me when 1321 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 4: we did the first record, he told me, anytime you 1322 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 4: need me, I got you. And you know I used 1323 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 4: that vessel and he ain't never turned me down anything. 1324 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 4: I sen he's sending in it right back and he clar. 1325 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 3: He clar. 1326 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 6: Now. 1327 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: Last thing people would want to know, how come they 1328 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: don't see hole on the album? They know that you 1329 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: and Hove got a great relationship. This is the first 1330 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: album on Death Jim. I know a lot of people. 1331 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're looking for that whole verse. 1332 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 4: I think like I can't speak for I can't speak 1333 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 4: for Big Dog, but he sent him to stuff I haven't. 1334 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 4: I haven't because because when I hit him up, when 1335 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 4: I hit him up about music, I don't think he 1336 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: was focused on music. 1337 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,479 Speaker 2: So, like I said, I don't, I don't like to asks. 1338 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I know he's watching. 1339 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I want to. 1340 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: I want to earn my record because that's what I realized. 1341 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, he ain't just gonna get that record. 1342 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 2: I'll be easy. 1343 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 4: I gotta earn it. So I'm back in the shop. 1344 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 4: I'm back cooking, and hopefully the next one you would 1345 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 4: get that. You know what I'm saying. But I feel 1346 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 4: like I feel like I'm still I'm still like improving 1347 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 4: grounds will hole and I still got to in my 1348 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: spot about. 1349 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: Get that verse ready because I'm knowing it's something that's 1350 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: probably in your mind. But like I know, when it goes, 1351 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat this. So I'm gonna do this. I 1352 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: don't got it ready, you know what I'm saying. I 1353 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: gotta know like, I gotta notice for that, you know 1354 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: what I'm. 1355 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: Saying, Like any any record that you hear be on 1356 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 4: with an artist, I'm just doing these records and then 1357 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 4: they getting on them, like I'm not doing that with 1358 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 4: whole Like I gotta know that this is the whole record. 1359 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 5: Your daughter lit up when you started talking about that. 1360 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 5: So you must talk about this whole record a lot. 1361 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 5: You must talk about doing the record with Jail. 1362 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 4: She just know that's my dog. She just know that's 1363 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 4: my daughter. She's like, you know what I mean, you 1364 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: know that's my favorite rapper. She know that I look 1365 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 4: up the whole man. I'm not I'm not a guy 1366 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 4: afraid to say that. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1367 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 4: I look up to bro All, do you know what 1368 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 4: I mean. It's like the way he the way he 1369 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 4: do it, how he how he carry his business and 1370 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 4: everything like that. I honor that I look up to that. 1371 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1372 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 2: That's special to me. 1373 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 5: The evolution of him as a man, to me is 1374 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 5: more special than anything he's ever done as an artist, 1375 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 5: is watching him growing to the husband, family man that 1376 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 5: he is, especially after the whole lemonade shit. 1377 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 3: Right right, Like that was. 1378 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope, man, that's dope. 1379 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: You gotta hope we've seen it too. I think that's 1380 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: part of it too, Like we've seen his evolution and 1381 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: seeing him come from the kid from. 1382 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: Brook he put. 1383 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: We seen him in the club every day. Do it again? 1384 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 5: Was the hook and do it again. That's a fact 1385 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 5: he did. Was doing him dirty. 1386 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: That boy. Man, he was really out, like he was 1387 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: really in the clubs like he was out. 1388 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1389 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: That's that's what makes it. That's why he p's laughing 1390 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: because he seen he was. 1391 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 5: I'm bringing up all stuff, but they try to cancel 1392 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 5: whole some old record. 1393 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. 1394 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: Well, let's get into the record right Here is Braun 1395 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: Benny the Butcher. The album comes out January twenty sixth. 1396 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: Everybody can't go. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake 1397 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: that ass up in the morning. 1398 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.