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Speaker 1: Fuck Sports Radio. It's a Thursday that means we got football.

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Speaker 1: It's also a Thursday where we got more baseball. It's

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Speaker 1: a Thursday. Well, every day you get the DG Show,

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Speaker 1: plus you get the podcast that follows the show. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in Hope. You're having a spectacular day. Kind of weird

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game, right Like, I actually think this year

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Speaker 1: in the NFL there's been some quality performances. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I would be as harsh with it as

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Speaker 1: Jay stuw is.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Jay Stu calls it the Zuopa the zerup a tour

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Speaker 1: where we just people will pay anything to see you too,

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Speaker 1: so they'll pay anything and total gloss over the lack

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Speaker 1: of finally played football. I do think there's been some

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Speaker 1: games in a well played but part of the breakdown

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Speaker 1: in quality of play. Is what we're seeing with the Bengals. Right,

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Speaker 1: you got forty year old Joe Flacco coming in he's

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Speaker 1: quarterback and taking on an older you know, forty year

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Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers' quarterback now Rogers it was planned for

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Speaker 1: him to be quarterback and is what we believe is

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Speaker 1: this last year with the Steelers. But then you take

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Speaker 1: out Trey Hendrickson, you add in the fact that Flacco

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Speaker 1: just got to the team. The Steelers are coming off

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Speaker 1: a game with the Browns where they sacked sat to

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Speaker 1: quarterback six times, and five and a half doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like enough. It is in Cincinnati. It is a rivalry game,

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Speaker 1: and the more we try and count people out the more,

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Speaker 1: especially the Bengals. You know, they do have Jamar Chason.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to last week's Packers game, he's

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Speaker 1: still very much a problem.

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Speaker 3: But this does not feel like one.

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Speaker 1: I want to tune in for him, like I'm literally

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Speaker 1: tuning in to see what Aaron Rodgers looks like a

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Speaker 1: third of the season in that's the check in here.

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Speaker 1: And it's weird because Aaron Rodgers has been different degrees

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Speaker 1: of pretty good all year. Last He's been trending better.

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Speaker 1: The issue with the Steelers has been their defense was

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Speaker 1: kind of eh until you know last week or two,

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Speaker 1: great uniform matchup right where you got the Bengals, who

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Speaker 1: once again are going to be featured. But I don't

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Speaker 1: see I don't see a path there. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that you can it doesn't always happen this way.

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Speaker 3: We did a game I don't know was this week.

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Speaker 1: Last week we talked about our favorite backup quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: our favorite backup quarterbacks are the favorite backup quarterbacks because

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Speaker 1: they came in and played well.

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Speaker 3: But those guys are few and far between, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: We'd all agree Flacco is a bad fit for the system,

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Speaker 1: not because he can't pick it up mentally and get

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Speaker 1: rid of the football quickly, but because their offensive line

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Speaker 1: is a weakness and he is a.

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Speaker 3: Statue back there.

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Speaker 1: And then you have a team that has pass rush

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Speaker 1: was sort of non existent first couple weeks and now

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Speaker 1: has come back to play. Doesn't feel good. And I

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Speaker 1: would say a Dodgers Brewers is to watch, but that

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Speaker 1: one feels like a mismatch too. And I know Blue

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Speaker 1: because the Blue Jays won last night.

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Speaker 3: But that's a.

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Speaker 1: Series that exists only on the bottom line. I would

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Speaker 1: challenge any of us. That's like a real thing. I'll

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Speaker 1: just ask you, Jase, do Happy Birthday to Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: It is his birthday.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, and I won't.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this for Jason. He is not somebody

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Speaker 1: who searches for happy birthdays, although I'm guessing at the

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Speaker 1: his Facebook page to all of that, to everybody who

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Speaker 1: reached out, thank you for all the birthday wishes, making

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Speaker 1: everyone who didn't wish him a happy birthday feel very,

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Speaker 1: very guilty. But Jay s, dude, did you even watch

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Speaker 1: a pitch of last night's Blue Jays Mariners game?

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Speaker 4: No? I watched. I watched just about all of them.

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Speaker 4: I think Vlad Guerrero Junior is a fascinating watch. Like,

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Speaker 4: if you're going to list the five players in Major

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Speaker 3: Oh wait wait, wait almost last night? Can we can

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: The five guys you do want to watch? I mean

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Speaker 1: That was as bad a beat down as you're ever

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Speaker 1: going to see in baseball. In an ALCS the Blue

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Speaker 1: Jays had eighteen hits and thirteen runs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a joke.

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Speaker 1: It's so good and heck it was like I cal

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Speaker 1: Raley had another home run, right, Rodriguez hit another home

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Speaker 1: is he such a fascinating watch to you?

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Speaker 4: I just think that these NEPO babies that are always

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Speaker 4: never live up to it. And I think that he

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Speaker 4: of him. I just find him fascinated.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So who are the other four that you find

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Speaker 3: most fascinating?

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Speaker 4: But show hey, Bryce Harper. I love watching Bryce. I

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Speaker 4: love watching uh Sken's pitch, and then show Hay and

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Speaker 4: Judge would fill out the five.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think that's a really good list. Did

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Speaker 3: you hear what was it?

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Speaker 1: Dombrowski head he's with the Phillies where he said today

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know if uh. He was talking about the

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Speaker 1: future of the Phillies and he said he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: if Bryce Harper will ever get back to the level

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Speaker 4: I was like, wow, I agree with that. He's looked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, it's but it's just interesting, like especially

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Speaker 1: for you having a birthday, right, Like, you feel your

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Speaker 1: age sometimes when you see that number, but you also

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Speaker 1: feel your age when you're like, wait, I remember when

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper was like twenty, Now he's thirty two, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when Bryce Harper's been playing in Major

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: So I think if you're I won't reveal your age,

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Speaker 1: But if your age doesn't make you feel old, the

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Speaker 4: I was born in seventy two, so I'm officially Harry Carson. Happy,

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Speaker 4: Happy birthday, you old man.

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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. What do you do

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Speaker 3: for a fifty third birthday?

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Speaker 4: Zero? Exactly zero. But Dan Bayer loves birthdays. He appreciates birthdays,

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Speaker 4: more than most people I've ever met, and he will.

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Speaker 4: He refuses to allow me to ignore my own birthday.

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Speaker 4: And he bought me buffalo wild wings as a birthday gift.

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Speaker 4: He was the first person on staff to wish me

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Speaker 4: happy birthdays. So Dan just refuses to allow me to

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Speaker 4: do what I like to do, which is just kind

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Speaker 4: of ignore my birthday. Got to do it.

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Speaker 6: It's your day for once a year, you know, one

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Speaker 6: time of year, it's your day.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the wings, They're delicious. Way to tick now,

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Speaker 4: way to tick?

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Speaker 2: Was it? Dan?

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Speaker 7: I think I was the first to wish Jason a

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Speaker 7: happy birthday via text this morning.

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Speaker 4: No, I look at the timestamp. I looked at the timestamp.

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Speaker 6: I do not do, by the way, not do group

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Speaker 6: texts because it lets the other people off the hook

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Speaker 6: on knowing the person's birthday. So I sent a personal

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Speaker 6: text to Jason Happy birthday.

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Speaker 7: Mine was at nine fifty two Pacific time.

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Speaker 4: Nine one is one who sent yep?

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Speaker 5: Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 6: Dang yep. But I even let Jason know I go

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Speaker 6: by the way. I beat Sam just for the record

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Speaker 6: to show I got to check this out.

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Speaker 5: Here a tour de France time.

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Speaker 3: Hold on so it's nine, what time? Nine?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 4: Hold on? Hold on?

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Speaker 6: My text is not on the group text because I

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Speaker 6: didn't text on the group text.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I believe you.

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Speaker 5: I believe I'm a screenshot for proof.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't need a screenshot for proof. I just

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Speaker 3: know the timing of it.

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Speaker 1: I asked because because I'm not a big Facebook guy, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. But I do wish happy birthdays on Facebook often,

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Speaker 1: and I believe I wished Jay Stu a happy birthday

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Speaker 1: on Facebook. And I was just trying to see the

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Speaker 3: What time is it? So this is yeah, you beat

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Speaker 3: me to the punch too well. I don't know what

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Speaker 5: My birthday about two and a half hours ago, Doug.

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Speaker 7: If you were if you had wished him a happy

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Speaker 7: birthday three hours ago, that would have been like nine

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Speaker 7: ten nine o nine am Pacific time.

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Speaker 6: I feel your Facebook happy birthday, though, does not rise

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Speaker 6: to the level of the text.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yes, there is something more personal about the text.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to dispute that.

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Speaker 5: Facebook is very performative, I believe.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, look at me, everybody, I'm wishing Jason

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Speaker 7: But I do rely on Facebook for helping jog my memory.

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Speaker 7: When there is a birthday, it is very helpful.

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Speaker 6: Someone else has got a birthday coming up very soon,

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Speaker 6: we'll have a race to that birthday wish.

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Speaker 7: I yes that he would be talking about me my

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Speaker 7: birthday on Sunday. I do want to say something funny

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Speaker 7: that my dad wished his buddy Nick, who's a little

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Speaker 7: younger than him, a happy birthday. Nicks in his sixties,

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Speaker 7: but he said happy birthday. You'll get over, which I

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Speaker 7: think is perfect for when you get older. Like he just,

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Speaker 7: I feel like you just kind of want to move past.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like I'm not getting rewarded Jason, or

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Speaker 1: not even getting There's no confirmation or affirmation or tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap to the fact that I actually got

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Speaker 1: the happy birthday wishes.

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Speaker 4: No. First, I just did my due diligence. Great job

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Speaker 4: of the ninety people that mushed me a happy birthday

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Speaker 4: up to now on Facebook. Doug got in before Dan

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Speaker 4: got his tech message in yep, three hours ago.

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Speaker 1: Dan's was more personal and thoughtful. Mine was more time

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Speaker 1: sensitive and meeting now. I did run the benefit of

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Speaker 1: being hours ahead, right hours ahead Doug.

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Speaker 4: Doug sent his message right after the girl I had

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Speaker 4: her follow out to see if she's still hot, and

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Speaker 4: then there's Doug Godway.

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Speaker 1: Is she still hot? It's a great question. Oh Man,

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Speaker 1: got quiet.

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Speaker 4: That's a yes, he's deliberated.

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Speaker 6: She's probably very nice looking, right, Jason's a pleasant looking woman.

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Speaker 7: Lot of people don't like their boss, so why would

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm telling you. Bad job by me.

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Speaker 7: M wow, bring them back from the dead.

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Speaker 3: Damn buy what's your what's your well?

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Speaker 1: Most most people, well, I would say more than fifty

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Speaker 3: We win, we lose.

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Speaker 10: People have stuff to say it was lucky, it was

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Speaker 1: a note of it. Stet Gottlieb show Here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Remember he played college football at Penn State. He's the

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Speaker 2: I feel like there were a lot of people either

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Speaker 2: within the program or on the outside with close ties

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Speaker 2: to the program, but we're tired of seeing those high

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Speaker 2: profile losses and we're waiting for the best possible evidence

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Speaker 2: or excuse to make the decision, and so strategically, maybe

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Speaker 2: for them it made a lot of sense to wait

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Speaker 2: for the lowest point of this coaching career with Penn State.

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Speaker 2: And there's no doubt that this, you know, the loss

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Speaker 2: to UCLA on the road, and then the home game

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Speaker 2: against Northwestern were you know, you know that compilation of

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Speaker 2: losses was the low point. But goodness gracious, I mean,

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's a lost season. Doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: you need to move on from the coach immediately. No, no,

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Speaker 2: of course it doesn't. And and tactically there there was

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Speaker 2: probably a better way to go about all of it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think they were necessarily worried about tactics.

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Speaker 2: They were more worried about, Hey, what's going to feel

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Speaker 2: good right now? Even if it costs us a little

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Speaker 2: bit more money, even if it potentially costs us our

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Speaker 2: targeted coaching higher. At least we were able to tear

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Speaker 2: the band aid off when there was a moment where

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Speaker 2: if right to do so. And so I agree with you, Doug.

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Speaker 2: I think the why The why is because there was

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Speaker 2: there was enough groundswell of emotion behind the the decision

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Speaker 2: to do this right now. And I think that's as

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Speaker 2: far as anybody thought.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

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Speaker 3: Huge weekend in college football.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask about Oklahoma, right, you know, here

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Speaker 1: they were rolling along, then they go into the Red

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Speaker 1: River rivalry. Texas comes limping in in Texas Thompson. Now

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Speaker 1: they go to South Carolina. South this is like their

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Speaker 1: last game in which they there face probably likely to

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Speaker 1: be favored or definitely favorite body as many points. What's

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on OU bouncing back from last week?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it possible?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But South Carolina all of a sudden is looking a

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Speaker 2: little bit more like what we were supposed to seek

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Speaker 2: out South Carolina look like to start the season. You

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people were really high on Lenora

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Speaker 2: Sellers as a potential Heisman selection. I think I think

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Speaker 2: that boat is probably much farther from shore than it

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Speaker 2: was to start the season. But in terms of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can they write the ship?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do I have a tremendous amount of faith that they're

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Speaker 2: going to write the ship? No. To be perfectly honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I think that I think that joining the

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Speaker 2: SEC was one of those things that they had to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was it was necessarily the best

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Speaker 2: thing for the football program, I think, I think, but

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Speaker 2: they had to do it. And I think the weekend

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Speaker 2: week out rigor of competition in that comptference has worn

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Speaker 2: down that roster more than predicted over the past couple

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Speaker 2: of seasons, and I think it may take another year

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Speaker 2: or two of roster construction to be able to compete

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Speaker 2: with the type of talent that you have floating around

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Speaker 2: the SEC and getting used to taking on the level

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Speaker 2: of competition they're facing in the SEC on a year

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Speaker 2: and a year out basis.

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Speaker 1: Rich let me ask you about Vanderbilt. They're a home

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Speaker 1: favorite against LSU. This is not your this is not

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Speaker 1: our Vanderbilt that that's competing LSU. After looking great first

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Speaker 1: week the season at Clemson, we find out Clemson's just okay.

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Speaker 1: Their offense is kind of stunk. Can Vanderbilt beat LSU

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Speaker 1: at home, will they beat ls at home?

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilt is capable of beating, of hosting and beating top

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Speaker 2: level teams. Vanderbilt gives a real run at I mean,

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Speaker 2: like you know, look, I don't want to overstay. I

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Speaker 2: don't in overstate. Like the for example, the game against

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Speaker 2: Alabama they lost by two scores, was a two scores.

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Speaker 2: I think the final is thirty to fourteen. But like

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Speaker 2: when you look at that game, for example, like you know,

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Speaker 2: is Bama the nick taban Bama?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Does Obama have a defense like they used to? Know?

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Speaker 2: Do I think that Emma could potentially compete for a

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Speaker 2: national championship maybe this year, maybe not, But but Vandy

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Speaker 2: absolutely can sneak up on teams. And LSU has had

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Speaker 2: some head scratching moments already this season. So yeah, I don't,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't put that out of them, of

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Speaker 2: the realm of possibility, because Vanderbilt usually has one or

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Speaker 2: two really really sneaky punches in them each season, and

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Speaker 2: this could be.

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Speaker 1: It definitely could be. It another big game in Athens, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: You see's just stacked this week you had Tennessee Bama.

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Speaker 1: But of course, you know with with Georgia a team

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Speaker 1: that has lost at home. Right, they lost at home,

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Speaker 1: but it was it was to Alabama. This is a

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Speaker 1: gigantic game against Old Miss.

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Speaker 3: What do you like it? The Old Miss Georgia game.

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Speaker 2: I like Georgia. I think, I mean, we we know,

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Speaker 2: we know what it is. It's it's it's hard to

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Speaker 2: win between the hedges. I mean that is that is

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Speaker 2: the place that classically has hosted some horror shows for

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Speaker 2: for UH, for SC visiting SEC teams. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you have a team in Old Miss who I think

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Speaker 2: has an abundance of confidence, and I think that is

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Speaker 2: earned and should be recognized with the win over LSU.

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Speaker 2: But I look, it takes a special group to be

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Speaker 2: able to go into that place and leave with the W.

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Speaker 2: So I'm leaning Georgia here. However, again, the same way

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Speaker 2: we were just talking about Bama is the way I'll

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Speaker 2: talk about Georgia. I mean, this isn't This isn't Georgia

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Speaker 2: two or three years ago, even where they were, you know,

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Speaker 2: pumping out national championship visits. It feels like they've taken

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a step down. I think in

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Speaker 2: college football overall, there's more parody than there's been in years,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that is the leveling off or

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Speaker 2: chilling factor that the NIL era has had on college football.

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Speaker 2: I think you're seeing a lot of teams being able

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Speaker 2: to compete at a higher level and stand toe to

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Speaker 2: toe with, you know, these standard national powers because you

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Speaker 2: know they they they're able to recruit and retain the

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Speaker 2: talent now as long as they have deep pockets, or

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Speaker 2: they're spending the money in the right places, or they

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Speaker 2: happen to have a year where they're getting lucky or

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Speaker 2: fortunate with their injury situation. But having said all that,

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Speaker 2: it's a tough place to win in Georgia. So I'll

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Speaker 2: take the dogs at home.

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Speaker 1: Out show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice

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Speaker 1: of Rich Ornberger. Rich let me ask you about Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Like they go in and beat and beat Oregon at

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Speaker 1: organ and you got a coach who's won. He's got

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Speaker 1: some swag too, He's got this funny, quirky, super confident presentation.

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Speaker 1: Do you stay there, signetti? Like I get you could

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Speaker 1: probably make a jump, But I think he Indiana's got

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Speaker 1: a ton of money and they've never been anything. And

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Speaker 1: now there's something I don't know, Like again, in the

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Speaker 1: in the in the last fifty years, you'd always leave

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Speaker 1: to go to a Penn State, or to an Arkansas

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Speaker 1: or to wherever from an Indiana. But that's where the

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Speaker 1: landscape has changed. Whereas if they fund them the way

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Speaker 1: I think they're funded, do you just stay there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is this is one of those

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Speaker 2: personal questions that unless you know the man and unless

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Speaker 2: you know the thought process and have the answer, and

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out soon. But you laid it

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Speaker 2: out perfectly, Doug. And you know you've been watching college

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Speaker 2: football for a very long time, and you know we've

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Speaker 2: all seen it. You know, you can have a very

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Speaker 2: long and prosperous career setting down deep roots out of

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Speaker 2: university and ingratiating yourself to the SAM base, and you know,

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Speaker 2: welcoming alumni to participate and be actively involved, and they

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Speaker 2: can do so more than ever, you know, given the

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Speaker 2: times and how they've changed. And you know, basically it's

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Speaker 2: like open donation to the players, pocketbooks and all the

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Speaker 2: things we know about college football right now. But you

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Speaker 2: know there's also that other side to this coin, which

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Speaker 2: is if you are the type of coach who has

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Speaker 2: spent his entire life waiting for this moment, you know,

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Speaker 2: to grasp that life's golden ring, to have an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to be one of those names that's you know, etched

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Speaker 2: on the wall at one of these top tier universities.

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Speaker 2: And then on top of that, obviously the goal doesn't

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Speaker 2: stop there. You know, your hope is to bring a

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Speaker 2: national championship. That's what you're fighting for. To take it

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Speaker 2: a step further, you know, an opportunity like Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how often is that going to come around

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Speaker 2: during the prime of signettes years. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 2: is there going to be another round of hirings or

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Speaker 2: firings while he's still at the tippy top of the

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Speaker 2: mountain in terms of names available on the coaching carousel,

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Speaker 2: Where he's going to even be be considered for a

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Speaker 2: job like that, I mean, I don't know, and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't either, and so you got to factor that into

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Speaker 2: this equation too. Do I think it's likely that he

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Speaker 2: stays at Indiana? No, Because, I mean, if we're going

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Speaker 2: to look at the numbers, if we're going to look

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Speaker 2: at the stats on coaches who have moved on after

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Speaker 2: having success at a smaller program, going to a bigger program.

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Speaker 2: That's literally how he landed the Indiana job. Where was

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Speaker 2: he before?

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Speaker 4: That? Was it? I up?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I forget, I forget what school

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Speaker 2: he is.

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Speaker 1: A James Madison remember remember they had they had Tom

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Speaker 1: Allen a couple of years ago, and he was king

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Speaker 1: of the world there and he had Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 3: He's beaten people.

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Speaker 1: Pennix hurts his knee transfers, and you know, Tom Allen's

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Speaker 1: out of a job a couple years later because he

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Speaker 1: stayed in Indiana instead of making the gym, right, that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen it happen there before. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: do I think the Hoosiers fans are really excited for

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Speaker 2: the the what he's done for them. Absolutely. Do I

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Speaker 2: think he's excited for what he's been able to do

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Speaker 2: for them. Absolutely? But do I think the likeliest scenario

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Speaker 2: is that he stays No, I think the likeliest scenario

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Speaker 2: is that he moves on and he moves up.

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Speaker 1: and subscribe. Let's get to a game with Dan Buyer.

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Speaker 9: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 5: Doug, the game today is.

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Speaker 4: I feel a draft?

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Speaker 6: Can I call it audible? I did put an NFL the

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Speaker 6: one down here? Teams you still have hope for in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, But there are just a lot of bad

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Speaker 6: teams in the NFL that I don't know if we're

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Speaker 6: gonna have any hope for. How about whatever happened to

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Speaker 6: you in college football? Old college football programs that's no

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Speaker 6: longer or maybe what they once were.

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Speaker 1: Who was it who didn't like the supporting news? Is

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Speaker 1: that probably Jase two right? I think Jase two Pike crap.

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Speaker 1: Dolliver's point is they used to have a guy named

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Speaker 1: the Fly, and the Fly used to write a really

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Speaker 1: abbreviated kind of editorial and it would have these little flyisms,

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Speaker 1: and it used to say, didn't you used to be? Right, like,

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Speaker 1: didn't you used to be Virginia Tech? And all of

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Speaker 1: us that remember Virginia Tech football when they dominate on

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Speaker 1: special teams, Enter sand Man, that place was. It was

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Speaker 1: on Thursday nights, the Big East Football. Now it's a

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Speaker 1: shell of its former self. So now you say, didn't

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Speaker 1: you used to be Virginia Tech? That's what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: right Dan?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, And I'm guessing that would be your pick

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Speaker 6: if you were the first overall pick, but you weren't.

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Speaker 5: Sam. Is Doug your second, I'm third, Jason's fourth.

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Speaker 6: All right, Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about, Doug and.

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Speaker 7: Doug you might be able to save that one for

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Speaker 7: your second pick, But with the first overall pick, I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna go with wake Forest. Remember when Riley Skinner at

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Speaker 7: quarterback and Jim Grobe took the acc by storm one

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Speaker 7: year and they won the league.

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Speaker 3: That's not what he means. Okay, but I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like you know, they've never been back to

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Speaker 4: that point.

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Speaker 5: I think that year we were like, what happened to

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Speaker 5: that program?

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Speaker 3: Didn't she used to be Wake Forest?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the like yeah, I'm going I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: actually I'm going with Didn't.

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Speaker 3: She used to be Florida State?

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Speaker 5: Okay? All right?

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Speaker 3: Did she used to be Floria State?

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Speaker 1: Like you get the big win and then lose to

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Speaker 1: Virginia Like, okay, but now you look very pedestrian again again,

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Speaker 1: didn't she used to be Floria's shape fourteen fourteen years

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Speaker 1: in a row.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by bounding fourteen years in row, we've beensed in

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Speaker 3: the top four and nasal in national rankings. That's two.

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Speaker 3: Who you have your pick one or two?

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Speaker 4: Actually, hey, guys, who whatever happened to the b yu

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Speaker 4: they're currently ranked.

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Speaker 3: They're actually undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Whatever happened to them? Though? I see no Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 4: winners and I saw three of them in the eighties,

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Speaker 4: So back at you.

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Speaker 1: Well, they didn't get there, They didn't get rid of

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Speaker 1: the they didn't get rid of their first Jewish quarterback

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Speaker 1: for having sex when he got cat fished in by

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Speaker 1: a Utah Utah guy.

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Speaker 3: All right, you got one more?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I was to go third, and then Jason

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Speaker 6: was fourth. All right, that's okay. I was gonna say quick,

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Speaker 6: Boston Quick, I was gonna say Boston College.

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Speaker 5: Sure, Doug Flutie days and that's game time.

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Speaker 4: Wait about my pick. We don't We were at a

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Speaker 4: time I had a better one than last week.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about the top of the hour, or

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Speaker 1: we can talk about texting Jason, or we could talk

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Speaker 1: about don't call it a throwback Thursday. It's next to

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