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Speaker 1: other stuff. I'm gonna eat my mouth watering steak. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go through these drafts. Nick is gonna build the

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Speaker 1: team and we're gonna go from there. That's how we're

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Speaker 1: rolling here, right. I don't have disagree with you. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've I've had people text me saying, yeah, of

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Speaker 1: course I'm okay with that, you know, I'm okay with that,

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Speaker 1: although you better not screw up the lobster mac that

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Speaker 1: we usually get with our side. So um, but I

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Speaker 1: don't all I mean getting the three ones back was

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Speaker 1: getting the three ones back was big. That was that

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Speaker 1: that had to be part of it. Obviously, um, I

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Speaker 1: should say obviously nothing seems obvious in this situation, but

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Speaker 1: it felt like that was kind of the minimum that

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Speaker 1: was that was gonna happen, was getting three first back.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know when the teams were brought up. You know,

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Speaker 1: Carolina had number six and so overall this year, so

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Speaker 1: that sounded attractive. Atlanta was number eight, that's was very attractive.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen was New Orleans. You're like, I don't know, but

443
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Speaker 1: New Orleans had second and third round picked this year,

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Speaker 1: and then you had Cleveland kind of sitting right in

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Speaker 1: the middle of thirteen. And when Cleveland got ruled out,

446
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Speaker 1: like all right, well you move on. But you ended

447
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Speaker 1: up getting a top fifteen pick along with the number

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Speaker 1: three that's y already have and you're gonna have those picks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happens if in one of the next

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Speaker 1: two years the Sean gets dinged up or you know,

451
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Speaker 1: this suspension goes for six games. When he comes back,

452
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Speaker 1: they can't find their footing. They end up you know

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Speaker 1: seven and ten, you know eight and nine, and you

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Speaker 1: know that pick is number thirteen or fourteen again, you

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Speaker 1: know what happens if the Sean gets hurted like it's

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Speaker 1: seventeen for us, you know, he gets hurt and all

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Speaker 1: of sudden we got number three. But you know we

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Speaker 1: gave number three to Cleveland to go get to Sean

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Speaker 1: in the first place, So you know what happens. Then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're talking about man, we got

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Speaker 1: we got a fifth round pick in his Maybe Cleveland's

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, maybe both years. You know we're picking

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Speaker 1: at number thirty two. Either way, those are picks we

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Speaker 1: didn't have before. And you can do something as long

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Speaker 1: as you have the asset in your hands that nickossary

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Speaker 1: and a staff dude, they have those three ones that

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Speaker 1: have the third, that have the fourth in their hands.

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Speaker 1: All right, couple of items on what you could possibly

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Speaker 1: get with pick number thirteen. We've talked about pick number

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Speaker 1: three a bunch, but what about pick number thirteen. Will

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Welcome, we're live talking about the

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Speaker 1: big trade today. Texans reportedly, I'll still say that because

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Speaker 1: it's not officially announced by them yet reportedly sending to

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson to Cleveland three number one draft choices, first

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Speaker 1: round draft choices, number one overall picks would be nice.

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Speaker 1: The stake of the deal, as we said, Watson reportedly

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Speaker 1: gets two hundred and thirty million guaranteed by the brands. Johnny,

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00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: did you see this that it's one million for next

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Speaker 1: year just in Casey gets suspended and he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: lose much of the money. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: gonna hold up or not. I don't know if that

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: meets league approval. We'll see soon enough, but maybe it does,

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00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: and that'll be something. Obviously, the very serious allegations are

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Speaker 1: still out there with him, with the twenty two lawsuits

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Speaker 1: he's facing, and these were attempted. There were attempts to

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Speaker 1: get these settled before the trade deadline, reportedly, and it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen because there were some holdouts. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: how that goes. If they're gonna be able to do

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Speaker 1: it now. Obviously there's a lot of money for him

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00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: to play with sometimes that will help, but obviously a

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Speaker 1: very serious situation. It's been very quiet from the Buzzby

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Speaker 1: camp through all this, which I find interesting, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just glad for the Houston Texans. They can get through it,

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Speaker 1: get past it a player who didn't want to be

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Speaker 1: with them anymore. Look, I know we had issues or whatever, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I Look, I don't want to rehash everything, especially not

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Speaker 1: until it's official, Johnny. But like we said from the

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Speaker 1: get go, it's good to have it done and you

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Speaker 1: move on and you get ready for twenty twenty two

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00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: and you have two picks in the top thirteen. Well,

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Speaker 1: we did get a statement during the break from the

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Speaker 1: Tech We got the statement during a break. Here here's

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Speaker 1: a statement from general manager Nick Kisserio. Earlier today, we

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Speaker 1: agreed to trade to Shaun Watson to Cleveland Browns. I

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Speaker 1: felt it was the right move for the organization as

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Speaker 1: we head into the new league year, focused on building

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Speaker 1: our roster for the twenty twenty two season. Our priority

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Speaker 1: right now is adding talented players to the foundation we

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Speaker 1: have already put in place. Over the last fifteen months

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Speaker 1: in the trade supports that plan. As we navigate the

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Speaker 1: rest of the off season, we remain open minded to

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Speaker 1: all avenues that allow us to improve our roster and

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Speaker 1: to add to our program. This is from cal McNair

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Speaker 1: the statement, I'm extremely proud of the way go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm extremely proud of the way Nikos Sarrio navigated us

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Speaker 1: through this challenging situation. He remained patient before ultimately making

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Speaker 1: a decision that's best for us in both the short

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Speaker 1: and long term. We're confident in our plan to build

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Speaker 1: a championship program that can sustain success in our entire organization.

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Speaker 1: He's excited to move forward together, all right. So it's

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Speaker 1: three firsts, a third next year, and a fourth the

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Speaker 1: year after that. They send a twenty twenty four fifth

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Speaker 1: to the Browns along with Watson, So it's three first,

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Speaker 1: a third of the fourth, and again you have the

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Speaker 1: thirteenth this year. We don't know what next years is

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Speaker 1: going to be. It's very possible that Watson doesn't play

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Speaker 1: the whole season for the Cleveland Browns because of a

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Speaker 1: suspension possibly, and then the following years we'll see where

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Speaker 1: it takes. The Cleveland Browns. But we have the Nick

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Speaker 1: Kissario quote. We just read to the Kelly McNair quote

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Speaker 1: and these two. Well, actually, Nick will have a press

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Speaker 1: conference soon enough, tomorrow, and we will have Nick on

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Speaker 1: as well. We'll have Nick on our video channels, all

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Speaker 1: our platforms, YouTube and Facebook and Twitter will go live.

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Speaker 1: Actually with that, we're not gonna go live. We'll go

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Speaker 1: live with the presser, so we'll have all the information

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Speaker 1: out there from the GM. He'll talk about the deal

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Speaker 1: some more and talk about the other acquisitions as well,

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Speaker 1: because obviously, as you know, they've been busy. I know

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Speaker 1: this is a huge story, but they've been busy acquiring

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Speaker 1: other players and resigning some players. And I think that

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Speaker 1: when you look at the draft, that's where this thing

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Speaker 1: is really going to shift. Being basically what five for

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Speaker 1: five last year and picks, I mean, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: high batting average. I don't know if Garrett Walla is

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Speaker 1: going to turn out to be a pro bowler. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what. He showed some good signs as the season

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Speaker 1: went along, and the most important pick being Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: in the third ram who this year certainly would have

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Speaker 1: gone higher had he stayed at school. But you were

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Speaker 1: able to have him do a learning year, a learning

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Speaker 1: season behind Tyrod. Taylor played early, sat for a while,

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Speaker 1: played again, and played well down the stretch and very

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Speaker 1: well by some metrics. So you're looking forward to year

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Speaker 1: or two with him. So Johnny pick number thirdeen at three.

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Speaker 1: We know there's a lot out there. I guess we

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Speaker 1: have to wonder based on what the Jags need, based

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Speaker 1: on what everyone assumes Detroit is going to do with Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: that Hamilton Hamilton will be available number three. Is he there,

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Speaker 1: Johnny and should he take him? If Hutchinson goes to

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Speaker 1: the Jags, which I believe is going to happen, Detroit

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Speaker 1: gets all kinds of interesting because somebody could be trading

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Speaker 1: up to go get one of those offensive linement thinking

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Speaker 1: the Texans might still be interested. Maybe maybe a lot

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Speaker 1: of moves from six to two, although they don't have

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Speaker 1: a ton of ammunition to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: So that gets interesting with the Lions. I if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Lions, I take Hamilton at two. I absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: Now they just re up with Tracy Walker, but that's

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Speaker 1: not going to get in the way of you drafting

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. I would take Kyla Hamilton at three. You

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Speaker 1: know how I feel. I just don't know that he

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Speaker 1: is going to be there. I think my worst case

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Speaker 1: scenario ends up being Hutchinson Hamilton in whatever order, going

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Speaker 1: one and two, and then all of a sudden we're like,

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Speaker 1: oh dad, gumm it. I still think trade down now again,

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Speaker 1: trade down needs a partner. It does. I mean, you

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00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: can dance solo if you want, but it's not going

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Speaker 1: to help you with the number three pick. But if

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Speaker 1: you find a trade down partner, maybe one of the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: maybe Malik Willis, gets really really hot and a team

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00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: is like, we gotta have him. And that's why the

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Speaker 1: next week to ten days becomes interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: are the Seahawks to, what are the Colts do, what

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Speaker 1: do the how the forty nine ers kind of handle things?

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Speaker 1: And what Domino does, Jimmy Garoppol have maybe going somewhere

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: have on some other teams. So those are things, so

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: all kind of keep in mind of what could impact

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Speaker 1: number two and obviously number three if Hamilton's there at three.

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Speaker 1: Defensive playmaker, I mean, you just can't have enough of

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Speaker 1: defensive playmakers. And the thing is, oh, he's a safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a safety. He's a nickel linebacker, he's a will linebacker.

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Speaker 1: U he can blitz off the edge. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: many different things do you want Kyle Hamilton to be

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Speaker 1: able to do as a quote unquote safety. He'll be

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Speaker 1: able to do them at number three. If you move down,

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Speaker 1: you move down. That's great. But I think I think

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson Hamilton the two offensive linemen I don't think are

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Speaker 1: out of consideration because they both can play guard. You

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Speaker 1: go back to the fact that could they kind of

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Speaker 1: like Larry Tunsel did when he was in Miami. When

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Speaker 1: he got drafted by Miami, they had Brandon Albert i

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Speaker 1: left tackle, so they've stuck Laramie inside a guard for

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Speaker 1: a year. Albert then went and became a free agent.

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Speaker 1: I think after that Larry bump back up the left

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Speaker 1: tackle and that's how they went about doing it. Now

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00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Larry ended up being drafted twelve or thirteen. You got

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Speaker 1: to balance out Evan Neil a QUANTU. I have them

628
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: rated that highly, so I would have no issue with

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Speaker 1: it because I think I could play him at guard

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Speaker 1: and then whatever happens with your tackle situation in the future,

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Speaker 1: they can bump out the tackle at that point I

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Speaker 1: just think they're that go to football players. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to leave them out of the mix. And then

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Speaker 1: the one name that's been brought up a lot lately

635
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: is Trayvon Walker, who is the defensive end from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventy two pounds, six foot five, long arms,

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Speaker 1: runs in the four five range, A complete just bionic man,

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Speaker 1: just an athlete like you've never seen. I don't think

639
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: he's a polished edge rusher, but he has a violent

640
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: player out on the edge from football standpoint, plays the

641
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: run extremely well. I mean, he is physical. He would

642
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: definitely set a tone out on the edge. I don't

643
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: know he is twelve sacks a year, but then again,

644
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's also reached this potential. But that's

645
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: a name that's definitely been out there for the Texans.

646
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Sitting at number three. Number thirteen gets interesting. Mark thirteen

647
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: gets really interesting because I think that's where some of

648
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: the corners, So they maybe come off the board and

649
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: if teams are trading up, they go maybe go get quarterbacks.

650
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Maybe the corners come down. Maybe Sauce Gardner comes down,

651
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe Stingley comes down. I love Trent McDuffie from Otta, Washington.

652
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: He's one, he's one of my favorite players to watch.

653
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they're all in play at thirteen, and also maybe

654
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis from Georgia is in play at thirteen. And

655
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: could you see a scenario where you have Trayvon Walker

656
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: and Jordan Davis, those two monsters coming from Georgia and

657
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: they're part of the Texans defensive line for the next

658
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: how many every years? Heck, yeah, I could see it.

659
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: It would be fantastic to watch those two physical beasts

660
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: joined this Texans defensive line. And then let's see Derrick

661
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Henry and company try and run on those guys consist

662
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: instantly over the next homny every years. So that's how

663
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: you get this thing built with elite talent. And you

664
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: have those two Georgia guys at three and thirteen, Man,

665
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: you'd look really really good. Maybe at thirteen it's Derek Stingley.

666
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Maybe Stingley falls to thirteen, and there you're sitting there

667
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: with a top three talent in the entire draft that

668
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: you get at thirteen because teams are passing on corners

669
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: or they're questioning Stingley. Man, you end up with him

670
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: at thirteen, Man, that would be awesome, But it's gonna

671
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: be fun to watch it all play out and see

672
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: how teams kind of navigate the draft and obviously how

673
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Nick's gonna navigate it up and down. I really like

674
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: strengthening the middle of the defensive line. I love the

675
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: signing of Malik Collins. Pressure up the middle is so key.

676
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: We always talk about that with Andre how everyone talks

677
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: about edge rushers and yeah, I get it, you're gonna

678
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: get sacks and strip sacks and it's very sexy and

679
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: all of that. But when you get pressure up the middle,

680
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: that's when the QB tends to end up in the

681
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: arms of a defensive end or outside linebacker pass rusher.

682
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Right when you get that punch up the middle, and

683
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: you having these two guys from Georgia, Trevon Walker and

684
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, in the top ten of the Harris one hundred.

685
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Quick question for you, is it more difficult or easier

686
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: to evaluate when you have terrific players playing around them

687
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: because the offense has to deal with so much when

688
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: they're trying to block these guys. Yeah, it's a it's

689
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: a great point, Mark, and I try and take all

690
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: that into consideration. I take it all into consideration. I mean,

691
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I watch how many times teams trying double Jordan Davis

692
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: and how they're unsuccessful in doing it. I watched teams

693
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: against Trevon Walker, and I see all the different things

694
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: Tremon Walker does, and then I realized, okay, yeah, the

695
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: one is he getting a one on one situation? When

696
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: is he getting doubled? How is he playing the role?

697
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: I try and keep the situations as much as I

698
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: possibly can separate even though they're playing on the same line.

699
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I was watching them today against

700
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: Alabama SEC Championship game. I'm like, my, my goodness, trying

701
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: to run. Trying to run on them was just nearly impossible.

702
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: In one of the keys, Jordan Davis said at his

703
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: pro day that he got down to like three forty

704
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: five three forty range. I think he's three forty one

705
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: to combine. That was fifteen to twenty pounds less than

706
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: what he played in. He said, he's so much quicker

707
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: and faster, and he wants to stay he wants to

708
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: stay at his sleek three forty going forward. That's scary

709
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: to think about six six three forty sleek, agile and

710
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: mobile and faster than probably every other tight end on

711
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: the roster if he does end up with the Texans.

712
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: But it's tough to kind of evaluate, Like, Okay, is

713
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis getting all the attention here? But I look

714
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: for certain things with both of them. Man, they're good.

715
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, if Texas trade out at thirteen,

716
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: they moved down, they moved down. Defante, Whyatt is going

717
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: in the first round. Two He's the guy that played

718
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: in between those two other guys, and he's just as

719
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: good a football player as the other two. They're gonna

720
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: have three first rounders coming off that defensive line from Georgia.

721
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the recap. What happened today,

722
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: how it affects things, how the Texans move forward, what's

723
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: going to happen with the Browns? All coming up here

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandamarin John Harris with you Trade agreed to Houston

738
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Texans getting three first routers and then some from the

739
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns for sending Deshaun Watson near Lake Erie as

740
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: he gets a reported two hundred and thirty million dollars

741
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: guaranteed contract. And we'll see how it plays out for

742
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns who have Amari Cooper on their team.

743
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: No more Jarvis Landry Os obviously, no more O b

744
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: J left during last year. I ended up with the Rams.

745
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: We'll see how they put it together around him cap

746
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: wise and otherwise. Obviously it's something we're gonna be following.

747
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: The Browns are coming into NRG Stadium this year, right, Johnny,

748
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: So that's a date to circle on the calendar when

749
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: the schedule comes out. Yeah, of course that's the next

750
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know when. I can't remember when the

751
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: schedules coming out last year came up after the draft.

752
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: I think it was the second week in May. It'll

753
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: be after, so it'll be after. So I was gonna

754
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: say that's the next event. But the draft is the

755
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: next event. And then we'll get the schedule and everybody

756
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: will want to see it and see when that game

757
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: will take place, and I would imagine it'll be there'll

758
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: be a lot of eyes, not just in Houston and

759
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland on that particular ballgame when it happens. Yeah, no question.

760
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you have Deshaun Watson and the Cleveland Browns

761
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: now he might be suspended when they come in, although

762
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: the league, if they have any kind of sense of drama,

763
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: and they do, they might make it late enough in

764
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: the season. I don't know if the suspension will be

765
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: handed down by them then or not. I mean, this

766
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: is like crazy speculation right here. But the Browns are

767
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: scheduled to come to NRG Stadium this year. Because the

768
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: Texans and Browns finished in the same slot in their divisions,

769
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: Houston does not play the AFC North this year. The

770
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Browns obviously play the rest of the AFC North, so

771
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: they'll have to deal with Baltimore and the AFC champion

772
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and we'll see how the Steelers handle their

773
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: business moving forward. But obviously always a tough out for

774
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: the Browns no matter what the situation is. Yeah, well,

775
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you do know who the Browns do play this year.

776
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: They care a line of Panthers, the Atlanta Falcons in

777
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints NFC South this year, so that

778
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: could be interesting. Well, I'm glad you brought this up

779
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: because this week has been traumatic for many parties, right

780
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: in a football sense, not in a real life sense,

781
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: and maybe in a real life sense for the twenty

782
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: two women who are filing the civil suits and made

783
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: the accusations and allegations. But again we're talking football context here.

784
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, what happens with him now? With the Atlanta Falcons,

785
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: we already know Baker Mayfield, they were going back and forth,

786
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: really not and fourth just back they were. They were

787
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: not having it with each other this week, and I

788
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: guess once the Watson thing became this sort of uh,

789
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, passed over opportunity for them not really passed over,

790
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: but they were. They were passed over by the Watson

791
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: camp until they rallied with this huge today. The thought

792
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: was Mayfield would be welcomed back to Cleveland because he

793
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: has a year left on the deal, but he wanted

794
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: no part of it. And we'll see if he ends

795
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: up an Indie or not. What do the Falcons do

796
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan. I mean, everybody's sort of left holding

797
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: the bag here. I think the Saints come out of it.

798
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the best because they're still

799
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback and reportedly Jamis Winston is in

800
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: play to go back there. But I think it's a

801
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: different situation than when you have an established starting quarterback.

802
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: And I'll call Mayfield established because the Browns have done

803
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: things with him that they've never done in their history

804
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: since coming back into the league in nineteen ninety nine.

805
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: It's all very interesting, there's no question. And you know,

806
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: obviously with the Browns having us on the schedule, of

807
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: those teams in the NFC South, you're gonna have Deshaun

808
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: and Lamar twice a year. You're gonna have the Shawn

809
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: and Borrow twice a year. I mean, those boy, there's

810
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna be a lot of primetime games come

811
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: in Cleveland's way, and it's a it's a strong roster.

812
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any any question with that. And

813
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: now it's the opportunity for Nick Kisserio and his staff

814
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: to turn this into a strong roster m maybe in

815
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: the same way, maybe not, we'll see, but it's it.

816
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: That part, the Deshaun Watson part, short though it was

817
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen through twenty twenty one, is over. Moving

818
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: on to Cleveland, Texans, moving on, everybody seemingly has closure

819
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: other than like you said, from football. Since yes, obviously

820
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: there are there are some women in these lawsuits that

821
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: don't have that closure, and hopefully they're going to be

822
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: able to get that closure what they deserve from a

823
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: football sense. Closure. That's that's as simple as you could

824
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: say to Now we start looking forward to the draft

825
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: with Mark after what, do we have one first round

826
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: pick in like five years and now we got two

827
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: coming up in a month or so. That's nice. Yeah,

828
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean the first time, it's only the second time

829
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: in the last five years you have a first and

830
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: a second round raft choice, and you know, My closing

831
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: thought on this is you mentioned closure. Look, the whole

832
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: thing was terribly sad in a football context, right, I mean,

833
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: you had this quarterback, he was awesome, You did some

834
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: really amazing things with him, and then ultimately the marriage

835
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: breaks up. It really was something that you never wanted

836
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: to see happen. It did happen, and then you know,

837
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: with the breakup announcement or the declaration of I want

838
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: the breakup, then you get the lawsuits filed, and then

839
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: your whole I don't know, belief of the whole thing

840
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: of what this really was. Maybe it changes, I mean

841
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: from a football sense, no, but it just got to

842
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: be so horrible and again in a football context, and

843
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: it's just so great to be able to move on.

844
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: It really is, and it is sad, but it's also

845
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: you look to the future and you're happy about having

846
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: these picks. You're happy that you don't have to reach

847
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: on a quarterback this year. So let's just see what

848
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: happens in the draft coming up in a matter of weeks.

849
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's coming up very quickly here, and there

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