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Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio, and we're back on Dale Lally

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. We're pleased to be joined at

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Speaker 1: this time by Bob Labriola, the esteemed editor of Steelers

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Speaker 1: Digested Steelers dot Com. What can you be steamed? Do

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Speaker 1: you have to be esteemed? You're probably a little steamed

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Speaker 1: after what happened on the Sunday, I would put it

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Speaker 1: that way. Well, I mean I was disappointed. I mean

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Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, you're hopeful, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: But the performance was just off. Yeah, I thought the

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Speaker 1: I mean the offensive performance was the It's kind of

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Speaker 1: the season in a nutshell, Um, you know, nothing early.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that show many many times. It was like

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Speaker 1: watching reruns of Cheers or something. You know, they were

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Speaker 1: just okay, I've seen this, I've seen this, I've seen this.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh let's try something different, fellas like scoring Well,

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Speaker 1: but that didn't that didn't happen. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: the really disappointing thing to me. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that were disappointing, but and then

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Speaker 1: this is just my personal um, the receivers. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: You need guys to do things even above and beyond

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Speaker 1: you know what they're normally capable of. Um. And you know, again, disappointing,

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Speaker 1: I keep using that word, you know, but I just

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Speaker 1: kind of thought the whole offensive unit let the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Um as that game was going on, you know, as

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Speaker 1: among friends? But yeah, you know, um, it didn't get

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Speaker 1: to that point. But you know, um, Simon asked this

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that, Um, I wouldn't call it

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Speaker 1: you know the way the season unfolded. Uh, and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of those things. Now you know, there

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Speaker 1: are no moral victories in the NFL, and I get

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Speaker 1: all that they don't grade on the curve, as Mike

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Speaker 1: Thomlins said, Thank god they did that when I was

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Speaker 1: the way they finished the season, especially in light of

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Speaker 1: how they finished last season, Uh, there was considerable improvement there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they got into the playoffs, and UM,

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Speaker 1: each conference this year, and you know, so there were

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Speaker 1: some mitigating, mitigating circumstances that helped them. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. They made the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: so I do think that, you know, that is an

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Speaker 1: um at your point, Bob, I mean, you know, all

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Speaker 1: their final two games, they won three of their last

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Speaker 1: four to get into the playoffs. Games they had to have.

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Speaker 1: They made the playoffs. With the schedule. Then everybody at

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Speaker 1: the postseason. They were eight four and one in their

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Speaker 1: They believe in him. And I think that that guy

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Speaker 1: a lesser degree that Joe Green did for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: out of the dark ages now I don't know that

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Speaker 1: pretty dreary. Not as dreary as the first forty years

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Speaker 1: You know when when fans want to talk about franchise quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: You're not talking about Jared Goff, you know, or some

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Speaker 1: Other guys were picked highly that that's not a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: then that does it then become Bob. The Steelers have

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Speaker 1: And so to your point of Steelers brought Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: Why not you? So it was Bill Nunne but not

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Speaker 1: But Bob, we'll catch up soon. Take care. He is

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more breakdown, a little bit more

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