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Speaker 1: Welcome to Is this great game or what? And our

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Speaker 1: guest this week is Ron Darling. Really good major league

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Speaker 1: pitcher in his day, World champion with the eighty six Mets.

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Speaker 1: Now one of the best color broadcasters in the game,

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Speaker 1: and he played a crucial role in maybe the craziest

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Speaker 1: game of all time forty years ago on July the fourth,

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Speaker 1: Mets and Braves.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk all about that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Ron.

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Speaker 2: This is my son, Jeff. Hi, Jeff. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: it must look like your mind.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now the amount of times I

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Speaker 4: can't believe we started a podcast together, Ron, because people

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Speaker 4: don't know who's talking half the time.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, guys have very very similar voices. I

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Speaker 2: know your dad's probably told you this, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll just being out. Forty four years ago, around this time,

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Speaker 2: I was drafted by this little ball club, the Texas Rangers,

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Speaker 2: and the Dallas Morning News had a reporter who had

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Speaker 2: to interview me, and it ended up being your dad

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Speaker 2: was really one of the first guys I ever spoke

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Speaker 3: And now isn't true what he always said?

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Speaker 1: Ron?

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Speaker 3: Did he really look like he was sixteen? Working for

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Speaker 3: a real newspaper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it was really good.

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Speaker 1: I almost looked, Yeah, things have changed, and said so Jeff.

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Speaker 1: The Rangers traded Ron Darling and Walt Terrell to the

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Speaker 1: Mets for Lee Mozilly in one of the worst trades

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Speaker 1: in club history. And I called Joe Klein, the general

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Speaker 1: manager that night that afternoon to get a response on this,

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Speaker 1: and someone else picked up the phone and they said, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Joe Klein is dead. He jumped off the roof of

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Speaker 1: the holiday in after hearing about the trade.

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Speaker 2: That's how bad a trade it was. I got a

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Speaker 2: couple of stories about that trade. So the reason the

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Speaker 2: Rangers had to make that trade is because I believe

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Speaker 2: Mickey Rivers was their free agent. So he would come

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Speaker 2: every day to spring training sit outside and he had

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Speaker 2: Car with the car that had horns had to know

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Speaker 2: me kind of wanting a job, but he wanted to

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Speaker 2: get paid a certain amount. The Rangers were going to

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Speaker 2: balk and that's why they ended up getting Lee Mazilli.

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Speaker 2: But I was traded on April Fool's Day, which is

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Speaker 2: not a cool day to be traded because you never know.

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Speaker 2: But day prior or a couple of days prior, Don Zimmer,

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Speaker 2: who was the manager, called me in his office in

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Speaker 2: spring training, as you very much do with young players,

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Speaker 2: and he brought me in the office and he said, listen,

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Speaker 2: down to Oklahoma City Triple A. You're going to make

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Speaker 2: big leagues in no time. So I drove from Pampino Beach, Florida,

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Speaker 2: By the time I had talked to Zimmer, drove three

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Speaker 2: and the message was that I had been traded. So

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Speaker 2: that's how fast things can work.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, all right, Jeff, what do you want

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Speaker 1: to ask Ron?

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Speaker 4: Well, we got to start with the fact that we

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Speaker 4: have had your teammate Keith Hernandez on the podcast before.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if you know this.

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Speaker 4: But the entire episode that we had Keith on Ron

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Speaker 4: the stratomatic Call of Fame, agree we have who should

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Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame first basin and all we

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Speaker 2: But those two stratomatic Hall of Famers between them have

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Speaker 2: eleven Gold Glove so they well, you know, we had

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Speaker 2: for me, they would say what college I came from?

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Speaker 2: nine MVP. And for Ron garden Higher it would say

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Speaker 2: all district shortstopping that Hall of Famous. We love it.

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Speaker 1: Keith made a slab out loud a million times, which

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Speaker 1: was so good.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Keith was also on, of course, the eighty five Mets

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Speaker 1: team that played against the Braves on July the fourth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. The Mets won sixteen to thirteen. The

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Speaker 1: game lasted nineteen innings. Ron Darling pitched the nineteenth inning.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. The game started

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Speaker 1: fifty five in the morning. So Ron forty years later,

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Speaker 1: when you think about that game, what first comes to

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Speaker 2: Well, Atlanta at that time was not a great team.

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Speaker 2: They were going through that point trying to rebuild. Remember

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Speaker 2: believe in eighty two Murphy was right in the middle

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Speaker 2: of winning MVPs. But their team was not very good then,

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Speaker 2: and we had the great Dwight Gooden was starting that game,

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Speaker 2: I really took Dwight out of play. What I remember

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Speaker 2: about that game is two things. One is that at

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Speaker 2: get into this game. It was just so remarkable. You

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Speaker 2: there were a million runs scored. All of that. You

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Speaker 4: Well, let's for the people who aren't familiar with the game,

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Speaker 4: let's put it into perspective. It finishes sixteen to thirteen,

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Speaker 4: this wasn't like a one to one game, and it

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Speaker 4: There were thirteen runs, so every time someone would score

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Speaker 3: The fireworks in the front of the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, was that like fireworks at four am?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of like for if you're a reader,

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm sure everyone at that stadium felt

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Speaker 2: five for five games. It was just total madness. No

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Speaker 2: It's a game that honestly will be remembered forever. John

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Speaker 2: It was just really remarkable.

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Speaker 4: Ron. I know things have changed for pitchers these days.

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Speaker 4: There and no disrespect to the time you played, but

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Speaker 3: They have it.

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Speaker 4: But for you, obviously, as a great major league pitcher,

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Speaker 4: Was there any sort of you knew you were going

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Speaker 2: No, you know, I think especially you know, it's only

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Speaker 2: And no, I never thought about it. I think I

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Speaker 2: you also felt an obligation to your teammates that it

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Speaker 2: very very rare for a position player to take the mound.

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Speaker 2: That would you know, the old school managers that I

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Speaker 1: Did you had thrown eight innings two days earlier, did

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Speaker 1: you have any trouble getting lose or at three forty

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Speaker 1: five in the morning, what was.

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Speaker 2: That like, well, we were all kidding, because you know,

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Speaker 2: those eighties Mets teams are kind of like the rolling

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Speaker 2: lot of winning in the eighties. It was no sorry

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Speaker 2: to repeat your question, Tim, I lost my chrain on. No,

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Speaker 2: what was it?

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Speaker 1: How did your arm feel having thrown eight innings two

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't feel it at all. You know,

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Speaker 2: the adrenaline of going in there being apart just too

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Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to get out there. And it didn't

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Speaker 2: go easy that that ending either.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you struck out Rick Camp to end the game, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, Rick Camp was an sixty lifetime hitter.

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone on our bench knew that Rick could not

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned, Sorry, Jeff, you mentioned John Sterling. John

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you get in a game, Tim You've

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Speaker 3: Ron. This is not going to surprise you.

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Speaker 4: But I have a fascination with box scores, right, so

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Speaker 4: I encourage everybody listening to just look up the July fourth,

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Speaker 4: I can't get over so many different things. Three blown saves, right,

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Speaker 4: And my favorite part about it might be that twenty

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Speaker 3: Only four home runs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lost art, isn't it to enjoy

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Speaker 2: That's really what the game.

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Speaker 1: You guys got twenty eight hits in that game. Seven

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. It was It was just no one

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Speaker 2: And it's ironic, those kind of games. You ask any

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Speaker 1: David Johnson got thrown out of the game early. Do

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Speaker 2: I think I mentioned, didn't I the bud lights and

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Speaker 2: So that the clubhouse guys that night in Atlanta, UH

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Speaker 3: And Rick Aguilera, he threw a complete game.

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Speaker 4: So here we are using all these pitchers and all

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Speaker 3: Day you get a guy to go out there to

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Speaker 2: Well, your dad will remind you eighties baseball if there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back to Davey Johnson for a minute, just to

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Speaker 2: The way it worked. Davy On really believed in the

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Speaker 2: It was literally like you know when kids are freshmen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff, the Mets had a crazy reliever who was

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Speaker 2: Now, one hundred percent. We had guys on that team

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Speaker 1: So Ron Also, Terry Tata worked the play that night,

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Speaker 2: It's three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Everything is a strike that indeed happen.

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Speaker 2: That definitely did happen. Terry after what kind of related

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Speaker 2: look at pitches thrown you'll find that most of the

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Speaker 2: knew swing the bat Terry's tired, so let's get out

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Speaker 4: That I was a little league umpire for years. It

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Speaker 3: We got to hit this game in.

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Speaker 4: So everybody's throwing strikes and everybody's swinging, and they'd say, Blue,

439
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: where was that? And I said, it's a strike. I

440
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 4: don't care where it was.

441
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Speaker 3: We got to get this game done. The thought that an.

442
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 4: Umpire was saying that about a major league baseball game

443
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: is just iconic.

444
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.

445
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, the one of the great nuances of playing baseball

446
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: in the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, before they started giving

447
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: a report card to these poor umpires now, is that

448
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: every umpire was nuanced. You would go into a game,

449
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: I would look on the board, I'd see that so

450
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: and so was going to be the umpire. I knew

451
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: his exact strike zone. I knew where to get a strike.

452
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: I knew where he wasn't going to call a strike.

453
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Speaker 2: I knew how far I could go as far as

454
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Speaker 2: questioning his strike zone. It was a fun back and forth,

455
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: you know it really it really personalized all the umpires

456
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Speaker 2: to all of us. And I missed that.

457
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: You wouldn't even just prep for the batters you were

458
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Speaker 4: going up against.

459
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Speaker 3: You would also prep.

460
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Speaker 4: Knowing, Okay, I know I can get that inside fastball

461
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: on this umpire because he loves calling an inside fastball

462
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Speaker 4: as a strike.

463
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's crazy. You know, there's a phrase that

464
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: that analysts used now. They'll say an umpire's hunting for strikes.

465
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: So a guy who was not going to call a strike,

466
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: So that means contact night. If you're a pitcher, you're

467
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: gonna make the guys put the ball in play and

468
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: hopefully your fielders make the play, or tonight could be

469
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: one of those strikeout nights because it's a guy hunting

470
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: strikes and he's gonna give you a little off the edges.

471
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: So it was it was fun. It was like it

472
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: was like an advanced chess game.

473
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Speaker 1: Ron how many people were left out of the in

474
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Speaker 1: the crowd at four o'clock in the morning.

475
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Speaker 2: It must have been a.

476
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Sellout to begin with, because it's July the fourth. Did

477
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: most of the people stay for.

478
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: The end of the game? I wouldn't say most of

479
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: the people, but I remember looking into the crowd around

480
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: maybe the fourteenth fifteenth inning, and my one thought was, Wow,

481
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of people. I mean, so there

482
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: had to be a significant crowd, you know, maybe you know, ten,

483
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: twelve thousand. I mean, that's a lot of people to start.

484
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: You know, they probably got there at four for the

485
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: six o'clock game where it start at six, and it

486
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: was four when the game amended, so they spent a good,

487
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: hearty twelve hours downtown Atlanta.

488
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: Have you noticed, by the way, that I'm wearing an

489
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Speaker 1: a Hawaiian shirt in your honor?

490
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: I man, I look terrible in it.

491
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: But do you notice I'm wearing that just for you.

492
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Not for everybody. Pretty funny. We had a summer event

493
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: for our local broadcast in the Mets and we had

494
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: to wear Hawaiian shirts and one of the analysts said, boy,

495
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: you look greater than an Hawaiian shirt. I said, you

496
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: do know people run look good in a Hawaiian shirt.

497
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: It's gotta be my dad.

498
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 4: We got on a little bit before you did, and

499
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: he said, I'm gonna go change into my Hawaiian shirt.

500
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Speaker 3: Jeff, do you think that's a good idea? I said, Dad,

501
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: I've never met Ron Darling in my life. You've known

502
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: him for forty four years. You're gonna ask me. I

503
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: think he's going to take it offensively. I don't know

504
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: what to tell you, Dad.

505
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: Every man owns one Hawaiian shirt from their one trip

506
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Speaker 2: to Hawaii to the Lua. They went right, Ron.

507
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: I want to say I lived in Las Vegas for

508
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: five years, which is commonly known as the Ninth Island,

509
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: and it has a heavy Hawaiian influence, everything from obviously

510
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: the people, but the food. And I remember our promotions

511
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: director at my radio station that I worked at there.

512
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: His name is Ryan Kowamoto and he's from Hawaii, and

513
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: he would teach me all of these slang words and

514
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: so we would always and it's I'm only going to

515
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: say this to you, but he would always say we

516
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: would say, hey, Sah, you know what's up bra?

517
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Like we would he would He was letting me in

518
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: the fold.

519
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: But if I ever did something very like white Boy,

520
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: he would say, oh, Holley Boy, you can't do. I'd

521
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: be sitting there saying, oh, I just got a cheeseburger

522
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: from McDonald's.

523
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: He said, Holly boy, come on.

524
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: What's so funny is that, to this day my parents

525
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: were both alive, and my mom's Hawaiian Chinese, and my

526
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: dad is so the whitest man call them. She calls

527
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: him Howley, and he calls her what's not So they

528
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: still speak pigeon to each other.

529
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: So that's right, Ronie. When we had keith On, we

530
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: had to ask the gratuitous question about being in Sidefeld

531
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Speaker 1: and all that. But you were in one of Jeffrey's

532
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: favorite movies and my favorite movie, one of my favorite

533
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: Day After Tomorrow, and tell us about that role and

534
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the role that you played.

535
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: Well, there was a certain amount of time, for whatever reason,

536
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: people wanted me in movies, and I did like three

537
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: right in a row. After Tomorrow is a really good movie.

538
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: I did Shallow hal as well, Early brother and the

539
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Shallow how One is pretty funny because the Fairly brothers

540
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: were in Hawaii. They were writing the script for this movie,

541
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: and every day there was a Hawaiian kid who sold

542
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: juice on the side of the road. And as they

543
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: started write this Shallow House story, they incorporated this kid

544
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: who's writing the hepled the idea of an alternate world.

545
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, people that look a certain way, but you

546
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: see them as as supermodelors or whatever. They incorporated the script.

547
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 2: They got back to Rhode Island, where they're from, and

548
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: they said, boy, this is great, but you know we're

549
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna need like a Hawaiian guy who's kind of the

550
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: alternate universe. And they go, I don't know, an Haline guy.

551
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Do you know what he goes? Isn't that Ronnie Dolland

552
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: from from Matt's who played the Socks And like a dude,

553
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: that is so great? And you played you played.

554
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: A broadcaster of the Day after Tomorrow, didn't you?

555
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 2: I did. I was like a weather broadcast weathermen, so uh,

556
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, Bob Murphy, the great radio announcer for the

557
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: Mats for all those years, was a weatherman in the Navy.

558
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: So I made sure that I tried to hold his

559
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: crowd as a weatherman in a movie. But what's funny

560
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: about these movies is that they always say to me,

561
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: say okay, so you're gonna be a weatherman from Hawaii,

562
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: so you know, kind of used the vernacular that they

563
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: used there. I lived in Hawaii for three years. I

564
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: was raised in Worcestern, Massachusetts. I've dropped my rs until

565
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: I started TV. I know bubblers, I know the grinders,

566
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm a Massachusetts kid. So whenever anyone asked

567
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: me to really go overly Hawaiians, I'm always like.

568
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: Well, Ron, I wish my dad had consulted you before

569
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: he made his big acting debut on Brockmeier, where he

570
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: had he had like three lines and the one big

571
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: line and we've told this on the podcast before.

572
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: Was he You gotta give it to him, Dad.

573
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: He was so bad.

574
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Ron. I was in Brockmeyer one episode we had one

575
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: shooting date. I had like five lines. Three of that

576
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: four of them were like, hey, Jim, how's it going.

577
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: And the one that I had to say properly was

578
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Barbara streisand I loved her in Yentl And I of

579
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: course said Barbara streisand I loved her in Lentil instead

580
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: of Yentel. So it was just so galactically bad of

581
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: a mistake that they ran it in the show because

582
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: it made me look so stupid.

583
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: So that was my acting debut. You were way better

584
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: than I was.

585
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: An Hanks area.

586
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: Ron he picked it up like that and said, Tim,

587
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: you mean yental, Yes, and that's reaction and his laugh

588
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: is in the show and it really is like like

589
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: a Dunce moment.

590
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: He couldn't believe he did.

591
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: That, right.

592
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't know much about comedy and TV, but if

593
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: you ask the March Brothers soup always.

594
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely all right, Rob, Before we let you go,

595
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: every every episode, we have at what we call a

596
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: team Tim, where I come up with a team team

597
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: of baseball players based on whatever, you know, when we

598
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: had when we had we have all sorts of names

599
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: for things. So when we had the Eclipse, I came

600
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: up with the All Eclipse Team, Wally Moon, things like that,

601
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: you know. So since you're on Ron, I'm going to

602
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: present the All Romance Team in honor of you. Okay,

603
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: So our catcher and you'll know most of these guys.

604
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: Rick Sweet is the catcher. Ryan Court at first is

605
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: our first basement. Back when Ron and I were young

606
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: used to well maybe we were a little too young, used.

607
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: To court a woman.

608
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: So that's where Ryan Court came in. Ryan Bliss is

609
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: the second baseman. Jonah Bride, still active, is our third baseman,

610
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: which I love. Joe Sparks is the short stop. Bobby

611
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Valentine of course, who Ron knows exceptionally well.

612
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Bo Aldred spelled b.

613
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: E a U. And there's a guy, of course I

614
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: didn't cover him name Beauty McGowan. So he he's one

615
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: of our outfielders. And our pitching staff is led by

616
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Ron Darling. We had Slim Love, We have Richard Lovelady

617
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: who is still active. We had Bron Bryan wu who

618
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: pitches for the Mariners. And my and my favorite is

619
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Speaker 1: Buddy Groom. I just wish that Buddy Groom was still

620
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: pitching because if he faced.

621
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Speaker 3: Jonah Bride in a game, Jonah.

622
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Bride against Buddy Groom, it would be the greatest at

623
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: bat in baseball history.

624
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: I love the all Romance team. I'm happy to be

625
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: part of it. They don't start playing the music while

626
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: I speak here, but maybe on the on the bench.

627
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: Since we had Bobby starting, Bobby Valentine, will put Ellis Valentine.

628
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Yes, and Ellis was on he didn't make the cut.

629
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Speaker 1: I just figured there was more of a connection to

630
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: former Mets manager Bobby Valentine than Ellis Valentine, who, by

631
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the way, Ronnie you remember, played for the Rangers and

632
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I covered him. And famously, Ellis Valentine looked at me

633
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: one day and said, I got more talent in my

634
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: pinky finger than most of these guys have in their

635
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: entire body.

636
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: You can see him saying that right, end up being

637
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: an indictment of him as opposed to a great word.

638
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Rob, that was tremendous fun. Thanks for playing along

639
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: with all this nonsense, and thank you for your amazing

640
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: recall on that game forty years ago.

641
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: Well, the next time we get together, let's do it

642
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: in person. We got to have a cold beer or

643
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: something together, Jeff, because I have to walk and see

644
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: you guys together speaking at the same time.

645
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: Are you sure this might be an Ai filter and

646
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: we're really the same person.

647
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: If we find if we find out, you know, one

648
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: hundred years from now that a Sho Hail Tani was Ai,

649
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: would you be surprised? Wouldn't be?

650
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Would not?

651
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: Either's nothing like him ever?

652
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks again, Roun