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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to know. They want to know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can't even believe it. Whatever you thought, I

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Speaker 1: Go first, you wain't far enough, Yes, that's good. Now

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Boostmobile. Guys, I have a whole introduction to do today,

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Speaker 2: and it involves Grammy Awards and Rock and Roll Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame and many, many, many accolades. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Jungle Fever, House Party, Juice, Who's the Man, My Life

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Speaker 2: Set It Off, Hudlim Living Out a Loud, The Boone Collector,

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Speaker 2: Bringing out the Dead, Brown Sugar Chicago, This is not

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Speaker 1: The buddy and got the shit, I got that spice.

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Speaker 1: She just made this my last night. Come on, I'm

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Speaker 1: such a rapper. You are such Do you think I am?

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Speaker 1: I definitely think you are. I know you are.

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Speaker 2: You know what part of the problem is that you

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Speaker 2: made me believe that I could be a rapper. You

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Speaker 2: also made me believe I could do a talk show

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Speaker 2: and this and that and that because you did all

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Speaker 2: the things and me watching you my whole career, I thought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want to do a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Of course, and it's okay to do a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Okay to do a lot of things. Whatever you think

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Speaker 1: you can do, you should be doing right And look

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're here today, Angie.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be here. And nothing brings me

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Speaker 1: guest on your cast, your show. You come on, you

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Speaker 1: to go with this, So it's my honor.

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Speaker 2: You have been supportive, not of just me, and I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I already know because I am from

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Speaker 2: this commercial. You put me in a cover girl at commercial.

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Speaker 1: Of course, look at you. What's stop.

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Speaker 2: The point is that while you were collecting some of

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Speaker 1: And I do, Yeah, I do. I feel connected to

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Speaker 1: a huge amount of people. And it's actually you know

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Speaker 1: that phrase, what goes up must come down. It's really

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Speaker 2: So but you talk about the lows. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: I want to get all up in your lessons of

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning. Yeah, that's one of the biggest lessons.

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Speaker 1: I think I've always try to First of all, I

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Speaker 1: This is divine. And then the fact that I have

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Speaker 1: high school, that's a rare thing. Apparently I thought it

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Speaker 1: because then you don't know, you don't get a big

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I came up in a crew of people who

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Speaker 1: she just turned ninety eight. I call from all around

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Speaker 2: Did you always have that?

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Speaker 1: I think I've been a pretty optimist optimistic person in general.

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Speaker 1: Like it's way too burden some to live up to that.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine through all your years too, and like

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Speaker 1: No? I think I've I've crashed and burned several times.

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Speaker 1: In the beginning, I would literally just disappear and everybody

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Speaker 2: But what was it? What are you battling?

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Speaker 1: Because I appeared that I can handle a lot people

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Speaker 1: which means nothing to me because I'm not materialistic. It

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Speaker 1: that's not enough of a motivation for me. What I

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The check clear. The money was good, but I really

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Speaker 1: did not enjoy it. It wasn't memorable. My heart wasn't

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Speaker 2: Out because I ain't no little Dana. How do you

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Speaker 1: I just think about my poor mother.

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: Because what the hell was I doing in them damned streets?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing in the streets? I was partying.

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Speaker 1: I was doing it all.

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Speaker 1: I was glubs, local parties. But I was going to

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Speaker 1: New York. I was. I lived in New Jersey. I

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Speaker 2: But I was at roseland so you know, I was

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Speaker 1: Of course there was a shootout.

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Speaker 2: I didn't leave. I jumped under the table. I waited

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Speaker 1: And the party continued. And this is why I'm honored

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Speaker 1: meeting BISMARKI because he had a biz hat on and

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Speaker 1: and my boy brief says, Yo, that's Biz. And I

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Speaker 1: And I walked up to him. I was like you

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Speaker 2: You're already the type of kid though, Like number one,

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Speaker 2: you leave in Jersey to get to the streets. You're

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Speaker 1: I come from a big family and there's every type

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Speaker 1: any of our cookouts, all the stuff we've seen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And you're afraid. You're not afraid of people, people that

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be afraid of. Yes, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: I'm in East New York at sixteen? What are you

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Speaker 1: You way out in Brooklyn, like this is last stop?

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Speaker 1: What you trained this way and that way?

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Speaker 2: What were you looking for?

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Speaker 1: Probably love? And I'm fifteen sixteen? This hormones are crazy?

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Speaker 2: Oh you oh really? You weren't kidding, but that just.

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Speaker 1: Happened to be part of it. This was something cut No,

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Speaker 1: I mean it comes with the club, but yes, I

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Speaker 1: for this music called hip hop that I got to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hearing. I'm looking at Salt Pepper, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Caine. I'm looking at Boogie Down Productions,

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Speaker 1: Anybody who's anyone in hip hop is performing at this club.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get frisked, but you're gonna think somebody cavity

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Speaker 1: I got this.

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Speaker 2: Your mother's thinking my child is well.

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Speaker 1: Mother has no idea. She doesn't I would have. I

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Speaker 1: Does three And my dad was at his other house

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Speaker 1: And then I got the talk from everyone, and then

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Speaker 1: My mother asked the educator, so you know, not she

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Speaker 1: just had to I was. I was, and she had

433
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: my number, and I just had to explain to her

434
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: what my purpose was. So once I explained to her,

435
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: I was like, ma, I really think I can do

436
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: something with this. So I just want to put a

437
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: I just want to take off one year. Let me

438
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: and I skipped a year, I skipped first grade whatever,

439
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: So I said, let me just take off one year

440
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: and I'll put my one hundred and fifty percent into this,

441
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, I promise you I'll

442
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: go back to college. And I never looked back. Well,

443
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: you know, all those records started playing, I got a run,

444
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: Like the companies came together. It was just it all worked.

445
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: At some point though you thought I want this to

446
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, you just thought bigger than everybody else.

447
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: I feel like you always thought bigger because you could

448
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: have just been, like I want to be a rapper,

449
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: which is big enough. You did a great enough job

450
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: at that, Like that could have been it, but you didn't.

451
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: You wanted a management company, and you wanted to act,

452
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: and you wanted to have brands, and you wanted to

453
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: like I feel like you just have always your whole career,

454
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: have thought bigger? Did you always think that from the beginning?

455
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: Or I think so? And how much of that is

456
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: like the key to what you've been able to do

457
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: for us?

458
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: I think it's very important. Yeah, I think it's very important.

459
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: I think I grew up in a very creative household.

460
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: My parents were a police officer and who wanted to

461
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: be an architect, and that's dad. Yeah, very creative. Listen

462
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: to jazz, played percussion, so music cool household as well.

463
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: My mom became an art teacher, but we watched her

464
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: go to school, so she wasn't already she didn't already

465
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: have a diploma when we were kids. She went to school,

466
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: she went to college. Sometimes she would take us to

467
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: school with her because she didn't have a babysitter, and

468
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: there's a janitor that worked there that would watch us

469
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: while she took her classes. So not only did we

470
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: you know, we actually got to see the work that

471
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: went into her achieving this this degree, and so there

472
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: was a lot of learning, hands on learning that we

473
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: got to see. Also, my grandfather owned a hardware store,

474
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: so we got to see business people in front of

475
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: us growing up. You know, anybody could get a job.

476
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Any one of my cousins could work at the hardware

477
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: store where my grandfather and his brothers owned it, and

478
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot of business went through there. My grandmother was

479
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: very much a hustler, smart, just knew how to talk

480
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: to people. I mean, they just lived at a different level.

481
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: So Nork was not the Nork that people talk about.

482
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: It was a thriving metropolis with a million plus people.

483
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: And I got to see a whole lot of things

484
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: growing up and a lot of success in our own ways.

485
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: Also grew up in Maryland and Virginia, where my mother's

486
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: side of the family was from, so was slow. Got

487
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: to get away from the city, appreciate nature, being the country.

488
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: Go to church every Sunday, you go on to vis

489
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: a vacation Bible school. Whether you like it or not.

490
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Nobody's sleeping in the house on a Sunday. It's not happening.

491
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are or your religion, You're

492
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna be at church on sun So there was something

493
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: to that.

494
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh, So there's like a lot of discipline in that.

495
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: There's faith in that. There's like how you treat people

496
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: in that, like all those music in that and there's music.

497
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: There's music in that. But all those things that you

498
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: talk about, how they define you, that's it's all rooted

499
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 2: in that upbringing and that setting and that thing. It's

500
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: nice to hear you talk about your brother too, because

501
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: we always when he comes up for us, it's always

502
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: in the sad part of his existence. But hearing about

503
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: him and the joyful how close you were.

504
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh, that was my brother. People thought we were twins

505
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: because we looked alike. As soon as we saw each other,

506
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: we were just like puppies. We would just dug each

507
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: other do something very loving or very silly, and people

508
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: got to see what like a loving sibling relationship looked like,

509
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: you know. So it was very normal for us. And

510
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: I know at some point my mother was like, listen,

511
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: I understand that you. I get it. It was my

512
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: brother who actually brought it to my attention that my

513
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: mother was stressing about me hanging out and being in

514
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the streets like that. And he was like, come on

515
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: thee oh, mommy crying.

516
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: I was like, what cry?

517
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: I mean, mommy cry. It was so out of the

518
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: realm of reality for me, and he was like yeah.

519
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, So I got to talk

520
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: to mommy. And I was seventeen at that time, so

521
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: we talking about two years of just going at it.

522
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: And why do you.

523
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: Think she was crying? Did she think she was gonna

524
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: lose you?

525
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Or I think she was Definitely I think she was

526
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: worried about me. That particular night, I remember I went

527
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: out to a club. I expected my friends to be there,

528
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: and none of my friends were there, and I went

529
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: out with no money, and I was like, oh my god,

530
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the city.

531
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: By the way, guys, no cell phones, no beepers, there's

532
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: nothing at this nothing you just outside till you're Busses

533
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: and trains all that stuff stopped running in Jersey.

534
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: So I'm stuck in the city. Like, how am I

535
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: going to get home? My mother has a cousin who

536
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: lives in Castle Hill in the Bronx, So I said, okay,

537
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: I got hop this turnstyle and I could just take

538
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: it to Castle Hill. Then I walked her house and

539
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: I knocked on her door. She was a nurse at

540
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: the hospital locally, and I was like, it's Dana Rita's daughter,

541
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and now she's like, what come on in. She led

542
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: me into a room, let me spend the night call

543
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: my mother. Of course, it's my mother's first cousin. She

544
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: called my mother and let her know where I was,

545
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: gave me train fair and bus fair to get home

546
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: because she had to work, and I took the train

547
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: home and by the time I got back to eastar

548
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: And I just felt like I traveled one hundred and

549
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: fifty miles and U it was time to just have

550
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: a And that's when I came in and my brother

551
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: was like, d what you're doing. He was drinking some

552
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: beer I could tell. I was like, you're tipsy, and

553
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: then we used to wrestle a lot, so he grabbed

554
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: me up, like, oh, you got mommy crying. I was like,

555
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I got mommy crying. And I was like, I couldn't

556
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: believe I had done that to my mother, and so

557
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, I had to talk to my mom and

558
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: she talked. We had a conversation about things, and she

559
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: was like, ultimately it was like, I know you're gonna

560
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: continue to do what you're doing because you have to

561
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: do this. I just need you to call me and

562
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: let me know you safe wherever you are. And I

563
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: was like, ma, I promise you, I will let you

564
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: know wherever I am because I'm thinking, Okay, she don't

565
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: let me still loud a little bit. All I just

566
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: let her know that if I'm in Brooklyn. From that,

567
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: it got so it got to the point where everybody

568
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: was you call your mother. Do you call your mother?

569
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Call your mother, Let me get in the door, like

570
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: for you really were protected. I was protected everybody, like

571
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: all the whole flavor unit. If I was in markets basement,

572
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: you'll call your mother, you know, get in my friends

573
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: in bedstyle, my girl Gigi's house. You call your mother,

574
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: Call my mother. I'm in the bronx Ya.

575
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: You call your mother.

576
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I call my mother, like I have to call my

577
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: mother or somebody. Ramsey, tell my mother I'm here. Pass

578
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: the number along, make sure she knows where I'm where

579
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: I am. And from that moment on, it was like

580
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: it was like we were adults, you know, we were

581
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: women dealing with one another rather than just mother daughter,

582
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it was a different

583
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: kind of cadence in our in our relationship that really

584
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: made the difference, because she knew I needed to do

585
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: this and that it was a purpose in it. She

586
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: could see it. She could see it in my friends.

587
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: She could hear it because I would play my little

588
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: songs for her. I would rhyme for her or make

589
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: up a song and sing it for her. So she

590
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: knew that I was called to make music. I was

591
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: called something was calling me, and she wanted me to

592
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: follow my creative path. She she just didn't want to

593
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: worry about my life.

594
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

595
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: And I can respect that, get it?

596
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: God bless How lucky are you? How much has that

597
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: informed you as a mom? Now? Like? Like what kind

598
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: of mom are you? I don't even know you as mom?

599
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Who? I don't know that I know me as what

600
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: do you mean?

601
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: I just know you've been doing it for seven years now.

602
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: I know. The day he got here, I was like,

603
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. What was that crazy? What?

604
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

605
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Is that how you?

606
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: I was so mad at me? I do I talked

607
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: to her like she's right here, like I don't know

608
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: what I was thinking? God, bless you? How could you so?

609
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: I love you so much? How could you just think

610
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: to be so nice to me after pushing me out

611
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: like that? You know? I got stuck to Oh my gosh,

612
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: she still love me. It's it's you, you and mom.

613
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's just one of the most unselfish things

614
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: you will ever do. And that's pretty much like I

615
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: don't talk very much about my personal life like that

616
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: because I need that to keep, to keep for myself

617
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: and it.

618
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: Has served you, it has. And that came from my

619
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: mother too, you know.

620
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: My mother would tell me to keep you know, keep

621
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: your private, see your private things private. And this house

622
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: is this is for you. This is your sanctuary. So

623
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: everybody can't come in your house. You know, out there

624
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: is out there, but here should be like a safe

625
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: space for you to be who you are because I

626
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: need to take clean my teeth off sometimes and sit

627
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: here at the door and let just lie come in

628
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: the door. They ain't a come in the door and

629
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: just be whoever she is. Yeah, I'm just mama, you know,

630
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm bringing whatever I can to the table,

631
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: you know where I'm fortunate that I grew up with

632
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: a brother who comes up with all kinds of craziness,

633
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: so I'm never shocked when my son comes up with

634
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: some madness or has jokes or wants to do something

635
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: wild that everybody is like. I'm like, okay, we're gonna

636
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: do that. But here's how we're gonna do it. We're

637
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna do that safely, but we definitely jumping, but not

638
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: from there, you know.

639
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I know I really do become my

640
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: mother's Yeah, the only thing I will say. And I

641
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: know I also value your privacy, you know what I mean,

642
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: And I respect you so much that I would never

643
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: want to push anything abound you. But I will say

644
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: it has been really joyful for people who love you

645
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: to see you just seem and be free like that's

646
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: really it. It's like I don't even want to know

647
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: the details of all the intimacies of whatever, all the

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: decision making, and I know you don't really want to

649
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: share that, but you have been more open, and you

650
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: have been outside. You have been on carpets with your

651
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: wife and you and everybody knows you have a child,

652
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: and they've.

653
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Always been outside the beauty. Honest with you, Yeah, you

654
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: haven't been.

655
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: It's not stuff like but.

656
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I have to know, and you know you know, and

657
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: if you don't, you don't. It wasn't like something I felt.

658
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I've seen people. You know, some people are really good

659
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: at navigating public life. Uh, some people are really bad

660
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: at it. And some of my peers my friends like

661
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: that fame thing hit them and there and then he

662
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: went away and they were like they couldn't really handle that.

663
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: You know. Plus we're teenagers and we got to grow up. Still,

664
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: we're still growing up, so that's really really tough to

665
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: grow up in front of the world. But I never

666
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: felt I also seen people invite the world into their

667
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: house and then come to regret it. So I don't.

668
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't really feel the need to put my whole

669
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: life in everybody else's hands. It's not like something that's

670
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: a desire I have for you. You to know what's

671
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: going on in my house every five minutes, or what

672
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I ate, or how I sleep or what I'm doing.

673
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: That's not for you.

674
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: But you never felt trapped or like you felt like

675
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: you had to hide anything. You know what I'm saying.

676
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Because I had the Brad on and have you ever

677
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: spent time with the Brad and Judy?

678
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: I would like to spend some time.

679
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Should have absolutely spent time with They are so funny,

680
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, they are so funny. But the Brad was

681
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: explaining to me, like, you know, there was a time

682
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: and she couldn't do certain things and be certain ways,

683
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: and that was just it, that was the law. And

684
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: then she got to a point she was like, look,

685
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: I just want to I don't give a ship and

686
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: you stop caring, You stop caring. She's way more open

687
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: with her. They tell they got a reality show her.

688
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: She's not like, she's way more open and that's her choices,

689
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: everybody's choices. But I'm just saying, like the feeling of feeling,

690
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't know you just even the little bit that

691
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: you share now, you seem happy and free about it,

692
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 2: you don't seem pressed about it, but you also I

693
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: just wonder if there was another side of that, if

694
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: you ever felt definitely tight.

695
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: And we'll no question the question. I felt tight from jump,

696
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: but what I felt was and I still feel it.

697
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: People think they know me, and they don't like. I'm

698
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: still not the box you think I'm in. Like whatever

699
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: you think, you're wrong nine times out of ten. And

700
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: that is why I really can't justify all your thoughts,

701
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: dear public, God bless you public. I cannot justify all

702
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: your thoughts about me by either verifying or you know,

703
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to clarify that because my life is

704
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: much more rich than whatever you think. My life is

705
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: way more colorful than all that. You know what I mean.

706
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm a pisces, you know what I'm saying, A full blooded,

707
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: free ranging pisces over here, and I do what I feel.

708
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you may have to

709
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: live your life like this, and so you're trying to

710
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: figure out how do she live her life?

711
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: They want to know, They want to know.

712
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh, you can't even believe it. Whatever you I thought,

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: think bigger. You know what I mean.

714
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: Go further.

715
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: You ain't far enough. Yes, that's good. Now go further.

716
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, if it's dangerous, no,

717
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: it's more dangerous than that. Okay, if that's who she loved, No, no, no,

718
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: loved more than that. You know what I'm saying, much

719
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: more of that, because it's actual, real life. And again,

720
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: I think it comes back to my family and just

721
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: being around I mean, it's the reason I can be.

722
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: I never felt uncomfortable being in a room with different

723
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: races of people. I never felt uncomfortable being around people

724
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: who have more money. You can be a millionaire, you

725
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: could be a billionaire. It makes no difference to me.

726
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak to you and treat you just like

727
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: anyone else.

728
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: In the room.

729
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: It came from my family and what they filled me

730
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: with before I even stepped into the world at all.

731
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: So people are people.

732
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: But you're comfortable in any room, that is what you mean, right,

733
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Like you're comfortable.

734
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: In most, in good rooms, in any good room, in

735
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: most and in someplace, he says. Listen, I'm not perfect.

736
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I've gotten burned by people too, you know. But I

737
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: just I have to keep moving and I have to

738
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: get up. I got my heart broke, I still choose

739
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: to love, you know. I've suffered unbelievable losses of family members.

740
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: I still have to live, because apparently I have to live.

741
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm still here. I love music. I always will. It's

742
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: my default. Music is like my default when with whatever

743
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I do. So if I were hosting this show, I

744
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: would be playing some music to get me in a mood,

745
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: to get me in a zone. If it's a scene

746
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: in a film that I have to cry, I don't

747
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: have to think of a sad thing anymore. I can

748
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: put on a Clark Sister's record and the harmonies alone

749
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: would make me want to cry. Really, so I'll be

750
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: right there called action, you know what I mean, And

751
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: that's a gift, and I received that. And the faith

752
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: that I have has been my superpower in a lot

753
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: of ways. Because you're right, those who are not walking

754
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: around with it, they don't have this like invisible person

755
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: to talk to like I do. That's okay, whether it's

756
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: my mom or one of my other relatives. Winky, you

757
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: the big brother, you better watch out for me. I

758
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: could curse at him a little bit.

759
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: You still talk in that way.

760
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're supposed to be doing this. How come I

761
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: have to do it? You the oldest?

762
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: Did you talk too? Did you talk to him as

763
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: Winky that was a kid, or do you have an

764
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: evolved Winky.

765
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: I haven't evolved Winky too, because Winky as a kid,

766
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: still check me as a little sister, you.

767
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

768
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: I still check me on something. So if I catch

769
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: myself cursing too much, I can hear him say, deep,

770
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: come on, can you cursing too much? And I'm like, Dag,

771
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: how can you make me feel bad? From way over there?

772
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Then I laugh and we laugh about it. You know,

773
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: it's just funny to me. So I like that. I

774
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: don't have those walls between the realms like some people do,

775
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be all space, see, but

776
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: I just having to confront life and death like that

777
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: at such a young age. You know, from the time

778
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: my grandfather passed away when I was seven, I felt

779
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: like we went to back to back to back funerals,

780
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: and so when you lose so many people that you love,

781
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: you you have to deal with the realities that this

782
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: is a life. But it doesn't. For me. It doesn't

783
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: end there. You know. I can still feel the energy.

784
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: I still get the messages and the guidance a little

785
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: bit to go here, do this, do that, And I

786
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: know it can't be me because I don't even know

787
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: that to know it. You know, it might just be

788
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: a feeling out again, and so I just give it

789
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 1: to God.

790
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: How are you managing real? Be careful how I asked

791
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: this because I don't want to be too nosy. I'm like,

792
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: your thoughtful process like this, look at me, look at

793
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: me over here with it. I'm talking about one of

794
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: my ancestors up there. No, you know, I'm trying to

795
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: think how to ask this without being too nosy. But

796
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: it's like, uh, you know you have you have made

797
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: a shift, a public shift. Damn you did you are

798
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: a married woman with a child. You want you do

799
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: carpets with your wife. I met your wife at the

800
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: Mary J. Blige concert, by the way, I think I

801
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: met her before I saw her. They would come up

802
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: to the pod. She was like, good get her. No

803
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: she didn't say, well, maybe she said something. It was great.

804
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: But when you you've let people in a little bit.

805
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: I mean you went on the stage the tiniest bit.

806
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna go I'm not going to ask

807
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: about details about none of the intimate home. Thank you.

808
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: I won't, I promise I won't. But you did go

809
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: on stage, you shout pride. You clearly are living in

810
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: your truth and your family and your life.

811
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: Dana, I can't do just looked. It was the damn

812
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: pride in l A. Stop to me.

813
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: You made you made a choice to do that.

814
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: I did.

815
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what what about the can you talk to

816
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: about that? Like that decision to just make that choice

817
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: and a woman who's had the career that you've had,

818
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: with the speculation for all those years, and the decision

819
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: to be so private to make a decision to go

820
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll just say this and leave it

821
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: right there, like that's a decision, like, so what makes

822
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: you make that decision? And then what does that feel like?

823
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: I guess it's the question.

824
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: I was getting a Lifetime Achievement award and I didn't

825
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: want to leave out the people who were part of

826
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: the lifetime That makes sense. That's about it.

827
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: That was it. That's it really was not more complicated.

828
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: That's so not more complicated than that.

829
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's it's not always that deep.

830
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: But some people think that if you don't share, it

831
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: means you're hiding something, versus I'm okay with just not sharing.

832
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: I guess maybe that's the difference.

833
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, maybe it's a combination of both. You know,

834
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: I've when I was growing up, you know, or kind

835
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: of hanging out people. Just even in this business, people

836
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: are just so fascinated about people's private lives, you know

837
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, like, so fascinated by what you're doing

838
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: with your private life. Why is it because you're curious?

839
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Is because you're intrigued? Is it because you might like

840
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: you be surprised?

841
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: I think also sometimes people want to know how you're navigating.

842
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: Listen, that's hard for obviously how I'm navigating, But don't

843
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: expect unless it's energy. I may tell you how I

844
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: navigate a MoMA business. It's okay to mind your business

845
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: and having your business. I do try to mind business,

846
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I realized that a

847
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: lot of people also like talking about other people's business,

848
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: and they when even before it was like all the

849
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: pages and everything where it was like literally National Inquirer,

850
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: people would bring those things to me or bring gossip

851
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: to people near me or around me, and I was,

852
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the point of this? Why are

853
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: you telling me this? Like what do you think you're

854
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: doing by telling me that you read something about me somewhere?

855
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: And then I got to look at the person who's

856
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: bringing me the message, like what do you get out

857
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: of this? Like do you care about me? You see,

858
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to go do this and you come put

859
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: this on me. How do you think I'm gonna feel

860
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: about that? You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing

861
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: positive that's gonna come from me having this knowledge right now?

862
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: So really, this is for you. This is not for me.

863
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: So I told everybody around me, don't bring that shit

864
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: to me. If you read it, you read it, tell

865
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: me later. I don't want to hear that shit, keep

866
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: it where you at, you know. And so some of it,

867
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: and some of my ability to keep things to mysel

868
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: is me also respecting other people's privacy. I know a

869
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: lot about a lot of different people, but it's not

870
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: really my place for me to share their business necessarily,

871
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, because many of them, like myself, we're all

872
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: growing up, you know what I mean, We're not perfect,

873
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: and I make mistakes and other people make mistakes too.

874
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: When I need to say something else, I'm clear about it.

875
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: You know, you step on my toe or let you know,

876
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: say ouch. But every I don't have to say everything

877
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: about everything. And I don't need to say everything about

878
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: my private life because it's my private life and I

879
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: love the people that are in my life, you know.

880
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe I'm getting cheated on, or maybe I'm

881
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: getting my heart broken, or maybe I'm down in the dumps,

882
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm drinking too much, like and maybe I

883
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: need to deal with me. So what are you going

884
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: me to tell all y'all that for what? Let me

885
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: work on this. Let me go work on this, Let

886
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: me work on me. And so maybe that's been part

887
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: of it. Or I talk to the people I know

888
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: who actually care about me. You know, I don't go

889
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: to people who are strangers who don't necessarily have my

890
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: best interests at heart. I talk to the people who

891
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: actually care about me and and try to navigate my

892
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: life with them, and they also try to do the

893
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: same with me. And so we need to know we

894
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: have this circle of protection, this circle of safety, of

895
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: safe what word I'm trying to use, but I mean,

896
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: even with you, like the things I would tell you,

897
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: because we known each other a thousand years, I would

898
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable telling you than I would tell somebody

899
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: else me. You can have a straight up, off the

900
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: record conversation the moment we walk out this door and

901
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: they're not here, you know. And of course, but you

902
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: know I know parts of your life. It's none of

903
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: their business, you know what I mean.

904
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: It's also I also understand, and somebody who actually cares

905
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: about you and respects you like I understand. I was

906
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: literally sitting in the room earlier thinking about I want

907
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: to ask you about this, and I want to ask you

908
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: about this, and then I thought to myself, I think

909
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: it's really beautiful the way she has navigated her life

910
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: this long and just giving people enough to like stand

911
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: on your business, stand on your work, stand on your integrity,

912
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: and how you and how you carry yourself, and that

913
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: you could even have this moment now where you give

914
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: them just a little and it's okay, and people are

915
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: so happy to see it because you're happy, because you are.

916
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: You seem happy, like from.

917
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: The outside happy all the time.

918
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: You seem happy, and I think I think people are

919
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: happy for you. I think for the most part. I mean,

920
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: you can't everybody listen. It's a sick world out there

921
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: with a lot of people who are very unhappy. But

922
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: I think most people who know you and have been

923
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: raised with you and they see you, they're like mm hmm, yeah,

924
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: we love to see that. I mean, do you feel that.

925
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: I do feel that, you know what I'm saying. When

926
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: I get on I see the comments that people have

927
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: and most of the time is all is always very positive,

928
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: and I just stick with the positive stuff, and somebody

929
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: always goes left out.

930
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but even for you take take you out of

931
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: the equation. I think about people watching and in the

932
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: spirit of like real life and learning the lessons of that.

933
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: It's like you not sharing all those things. I think

934
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: lots of women making this mistake now because of social

935
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: media and because of our need to overshare all the time,

936
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: and that shit stays with you forever. And then you're

937
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: walking around with not only trying to figure out like

938
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: how you said and my drinking too much? Am I

939
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: doing this? Like that's the ship we all need to

940
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: be working on. Yeah, but all of our stuff is

941
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: outside because we're looking at other people's things. We're looking

942
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: at the comments, We're looking at what we should be doing,

943
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: and the what our skin should look like and what

944
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: we should be wearing, and we should be It's like

945
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: everything is external versus what.

946
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: We're managing inside. Yeah, we lose a lot of our

947
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: natural instincts. I think, you know, if we if we

948
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: always are looking for validation or even justification, and or

949
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: we're looking for someone else to tell us that we're right.

950
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of gaslighting that can happen.

951
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: I've just seen so much. And I've also you know,

952
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: I always, I just I love smart women. I always

953
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: have loved smart women always. I grew up around a

954
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: lot of smart women. My freshman year of high school,

955
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: I went to all girls Catholic school in Urbanton, New Jersey.

956
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm still in a group chat with my friends from

957
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: high school, like my crew, and they are so smart,

958
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and their mothers and got

959
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: graduates and they're going through ups and downs, but they

960
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: I just appreciate. And they have such varied opinions, you know,

961
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: they have such different opinions, but they all still have

962
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: to walk the individual past. And I respect that, you

963
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think that we need

964
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: to be okay with walking our path and knowing that

965
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: we'll come out on the other end of things. Like

966
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: if I can share some wisdom of my life to

967
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: let you know that I fell in a hole so

968
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: deep I couldn't find the bottom of it, and then

969
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: I was like help, and somehow I came up out

970
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: of that and I was out of it and I

971
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: just put one foot in front of the other, and

972
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: that helps you. Then I want you to know that

973
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: that I did go through that, you know what I mean.

974
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I've gone through hell

975
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: and back. I have a reason to smile, you know.

976
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: And whenever I get too much in my own head,

977
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: I start praying, I pray, I pray it away. I

978
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: start saying, hold up, wait a minute, I don't have this.

979
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: I ain't got it. I don't got it. Listen, I

980
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: need you to protect my son, protect my family, protect

981
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: this house. I just go off, and then before you

982
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: know it, I'm calm. I'm all right, because then I

983
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: remember I'm not in control of this. I didn't invent

984
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing. There's no way I could control it all,

985
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: you know. And once I remember that that, I let

986
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: go of the wheel a little bit. Then I get

987
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: back to just being me, doing my portion of it,

988
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, sharing my gifts, you know, saying the things

989
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: that only Dama Owens will say. It's just it's the truth,

990
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's the truth. Because there's so much right now.

991
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I wish I could control in this world with what

992
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: we're looking at, but I will own I will do

993
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: what I can, you know. I will do what I

994
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: can and that's what I can do. And I could

995
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: be content with that and may not change everything, but

996
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: you never know, and every little bit will change something.

997
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: So I try to stay positive and keep a positive

998
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: attitude because I just can't give into negativity. Like I

999
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: can't wake up every day like somebody gonna die, this

1000
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. I won't hear that shit, you know

1001
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, because guess what, somebody did die. That

1002
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: already happened, and it's gonna happen. And I don't want

1003
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: to live in that space. I want to live in

1004
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: a space that you know, goes beyond that. Somebody's also

1005
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna take their first steps today. Somebody is also gonna

1006
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: like swim for the first time, you know what I mean.

1007
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: And somebody's gonna save somebody in the swimming pool today.

1008
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: It's not just gonna be a drowning like you are

1009
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: telling those stories. Those stories get a lot of publicity.

1010
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: Tell good stories, you know you'll see some You'll find

1011
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: it when you tell goods. If you want to find

1012
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: the good, you'll find the good. So I try to

1013
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: find the good because I need to keep my head

1014
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: above water, and the negative is not gonna do that

1015
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: for me.

1016
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: I love that. Did you have a good story today?

1017
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Let's see?

1018
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a good story. You are a

1019
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: good story.

1020
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: Angie Martinez came in my dressing room, sat on a

1021
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: giant pillow and levitated.

1022
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: I did.

1023
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: She sat in a lotus physician, and next thing you know,

1024
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: she floated and I took a picture of it. And

1025
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna look at

1026
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: this picture when I need to get in a good mood.

1027
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at you just sitting there. I don't

1028
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: feel good about something, and I know that that picture

1029
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: is gonna come in handy one day.

1030
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: That might really be a simple key to life. Really,

1031
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: It's like, because right now people are struggling to navigate this.

1032
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: It is a stressful. Even myself, Man, I be struggling

1033
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: some days. Who I get scared. I get scared of

1034
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: ship like I get I get scared of myself almost

1035
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 2: because I can't fix it. I want to fix things.

1036
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: I want to help. I want to say the right thing.

1037
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: I want to be I want to inspire somebody. I

1038
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: want to I want to challenge myself. I want to

1039
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: do all these things. And there's so much going on

1040
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: in the world that it's hard sometimes and so for me,

1041
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: like you try to, Okay, hold up, yep, hold on, calm,

1042
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: comrades down, here you go. What can you control today?

1043
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1044
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: What can you? What is what is good today? What

1045
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: you got for me today?

1046
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1047
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: How are you gonna use me today?

1048
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: Yep?

1049
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: And let's just get through today.

1050
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: How about that? You know what I mean, how about

1051
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: just the next thirty minutes. Maybe we're going too far

1052
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: with this. Let's just you know, let's right here.

1053
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: That's just making me think of one time I went

1054
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 2: to go see you. You were hosting, you were doing

1055
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: a show, and I was introducing you, and I think

1056
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: it was your jazz album, Oh wow, and it was

1057
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: here in La the outdoor what's that outdoor Hollywood Bowl?

1058
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: You're doing in Hollywood Ball. I'm introducing you. Now I

1059
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: am backstage. My hair is like not doing right. I

1060
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: didn't like what I was doing, so I'm fidgeting. I'm visiting,

1061
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: and she's getting ready to go out to perform and

1062
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: sing in a way that you didn't really sing in

1063
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: front of people before. It's a new thing. I'm rattled

1064
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: because my hair in my office is not really hitting right.

1065
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: She's calm as a cucumber, and your demeanor is so calm,

1066
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: and I realized, this is what you're experiencing, what you're expressing.

1067
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: You had it even then, like you have this kind

1068
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: of like let me just let me just deal with

1069
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: this moment right here, let me be you like you

1070
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: just I remember looking at you like she's mad and

1071
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: this ain't all going right. There were things going wrong.

1072
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Last minute, people were running in all the light didn't

1073
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: go off. Hey, I need you to redo it, hey,

1074
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: and people get scattered. You were kind of like, okay,

1075
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: all right, well let me get that. Like you just

1076
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: you had this demeanor about you that people could be

1077
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: throwing the damn kitchen sink at you, and you did

1078
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: not seem to be rattled. And I was so inspired

1079
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: by that, No, really, like I was inspired by it

1080
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: because I think that's part of what it takes to

1081
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: be great, is to be able to weather fucking noise

1082
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: right and shit yep, and still operate at a high level.

1083
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. I absolutely know what

1084
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: she's saying.

1085
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do that really well.

1086
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: I think I've seen a lot going on around me

1087
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: and I have to grab onto the things that call me.

1088
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: And I also seen people that I thought were that

1089
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: I held in much higher esteem get nervous, and I'm like,

1090
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm nervous about this. I just have a process to

1091
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: certain ways that I do things, Like I remember actually

1092
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: playing the Hollywood Bowl, and I think my life got

1093
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: off so early. I didn't have the history of all

1094
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: the places that we had gone and the things, the

1095
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: doors we would walked through, and how people had been

1096
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: through some of these doors, and some of them were

1097
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: the first black people to even play some of these

1098
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: places I played. But everybody was putting so much seriousness

1099
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: on it, and some people are really respect to or accomplished.

1100
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: And I said, mm hmmm, I remember taking I had

1101
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: a show at the Bowl on a Sunday. I rolled

1102
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: my motorcycle from my house to the Hollywood Bowl on

1103
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: that Saturday, and luckily there was no show. They were

1104
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: on a break at the time. I was like, yo,

1105
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: I got to perform you tomorrow. You monified like pull

1106
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: up for a second, and just so the guy let

1107
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: me in. I pulled up my stage. He knows who

1108
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: I am, kind of you know what I mean, kind

1109
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: of knows who I am. And I just walked down

1110
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: into the crowd. I walked out into the audience and

1111
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: I just looked at the stage from like way up.

1112
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: I was like, body, you just tomorrow. I'm a canless tomorrow.

1113
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 2: Okay, cleo, you go. And then I left it.

1114
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: And then I left and then the next day I

1115
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: was like, let's go, you know, because I had to

1116
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: even take it in like, Okay, it's at least five

1117
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: thousand people go to your heir. I gotta, I gotta

1118
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: get it, I gotta, I gotta do this. But that

1119
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: was my homework. It wasn't about being in rehearsal, it

1120
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: wasn't about being with the band. It wasn't about again again.

1121
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: It was about take this moment and just see where

1122
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: you are, because tomorrow it's gonna be filled with people.

1123
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Imagine them sitting right here looking at you there. How

1124
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: you gonna project what you're gonna do to talk to

1125
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: this person with the seat to up here? And this

1126
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: is the stuff that my mind goes on, you know.

1127
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: So I said, Okay, I know what to do for you.

1128
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: And some of it is just relating to you back

1129
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: there in that seat rather than what's right in front

1130
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: of you, you know. And then some of it is

1131
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: relating to what's in front of you, you know what

1132
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean. But I was just so grateful because, like again,

1133
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: some of the people in my band that do this

1134
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: in their sleep, we're like, we're playing Hollywood ball. We're

1135
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: playing the ball. We're playing the ball ball. I'm like, Okay,

1136
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: if you nervous, should I be nervous? I'm not. I'm

1137
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: not about to no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing that.

1138
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: I've seen things in different ways. I've been on these

1139
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: roads too long. Show up with my crown. Yeah, let me, Michelle,

1140
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: let me put my joint on tilted a little. Yep,

1141
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: there we go. We got it. Now, let's get out

1142
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: there and give the people what they want. And that

1143
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: was what we did. So I'm glad you got to

1144
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: make that observation because that's probably why you saw me

1145
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: looking so gone. Yeah.

1146
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. That's the backstory.

1147
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: It's always a backstory.

1148
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: There's always a prep, there's always a there's always an

1149
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: internal process that everybody has to go through to make

1150
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: sure that your crown is sitting away supposed to see.

1151
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: You do and it's yours and it's meant to be

1152
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: done your way, and you ain't gonna find it in

1153
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the comment section. No, you need to just trust yourself sometimes.

1154
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: And that's the concern. We're looking outwards for everything. Like

1155
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: if you look at outwards to develop something on the inside,

1156
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe you know, but it all has to come from here.

1157
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: And when I look at the chats with my friends

1158
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: from high school, they're all developed in here. We hadn't

1159
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: been through hell and back still going through it, like

1160
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: still can talk about everything that we're going through at

1161
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: our big ages. But there's just like a difference in

1162
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: the development on the inside, you know, that is no

1163
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: different than when we were freshmen in high school, Like

1164
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: it was already happening then. So when I see people

1165
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: negate the youth voice, it's one of the things that

1166
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: irritates me most when you don't listen to kids, when

1167
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: you don't listen to young people, it annoys me because

1168
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: it does because they're not jaded yet, they're not cynical yet.

1169
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: They haven't learned enough about the world to be afraid

1170
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: of everything, you know, and they have great ideas, they're

1171
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: willing to do things, and so what do you do.

1172
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: You take your old ideas and you shove it down there,

1173
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: and you know, thoses and tell them who to be

1174
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: and how to be, and then you kind of it's

1175
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: like you don't ruin that, you know. And I think

1176
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: my mother had a lot to do with that too,

1177
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: and my father just watching my mother pour a little

1178
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: bit of something on so many so called thugs. What

1179
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: you mean, businessmen, you mean doctors? You mean that lawyer.

1180
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: You mean that that owner of that new company, you

1181
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: mean that music person. I watch them. I watched them

1182
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: come in the room like this, and she says something

1183
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 1: and then they just like the whole posture changes. They're

1184
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: coming with a smile. Hey, you know how you doing it?

1185
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: So and I'm like, mm hmmm. So sometimes you need

1186
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: the water. You gotta water the flowers.

1187
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1188
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: It's not including yourself, including ourselves, including ourselves, So what

1189
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: do That's what I try to do. I try to

1190
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: pour some positive energy on myself when I'm feeling like

1191
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't have it or I'm not feeling one hundred percent,

1192
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: which is quite often, you know. I find something good

1193
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: to read, I find something funny to look at, or

1194
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: I draw.

1195
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: You draw, Yeah, you're nice.

1196
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: I won't know if I'm nice, but I'm nice enough

1197
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: to just draw, you know. Squaring you know is a

1198
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: very good friend of mine, is my neighbor.

1199
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: So I go and his wife is one of my

1200
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: best friends sometimes, right, So I'll come down in the

1201
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: morning to get some breakfast and go and there he

1202
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: in his office and he's he's drawing, He draws. He

1203
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: has these things of it, says Crack three. Thousand, three

1204
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: thousand cars, and it's all the Picasso, Joe Picasso. He

1205
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: just being there, just drawing with glasses, and I'm like,

1206
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: I love I love that for you. I love that

1207
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: you're like a painter. He just grad he draws art,

1208
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: little GRAFFEEDI grad yes all over the place.

1209
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,959
Speaker 1: Yes, whatever it takes, whatever it takes, that's his peace.

1210
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn how to play violin. Really mighty

1211
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: got one.

1212
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: You can do it. It's not too late. No, what

1213
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: was the last good thing you learned how to do?

1214
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: What was the last interesting thing you learned? What's the

1215
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: last new thing you learned how to do? It's something

1216
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: trick question? Well, be a mom, I guess still kind

1217
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: of being a mom's you're only seven, Priya.

1218
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: Listen to you.

1219
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Nohing, no new hobbies now, no new tricks, something for

1220
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: a movie, something for something to do. I don't know

1221
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: I can through my life right now. I learned how

1222
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: to golf.

1223
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh we should go? I would. I loved that golfing

1224
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: with you.

1225
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: Do you golf?

1226
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: I hear that I could golf if I have you practice?

1227
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 2: No, I have tried it, and you're okay, Yeah, decent, Jada,

1228
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: You're friends with Jada. Why aren't you She's a golfer.

1229
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: No, so come on, let's let's go golfing.

1230
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: Light is a golfer.

1231
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: I have to be here.

1232
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: Light up. Uh. She can't beat me at everything, Spinderella golfs.

1233
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: There's a world out here.

1234
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: What are we doing.

1235
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with you.

1236
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm not the greatest golfer, but I love it. I'm obsessed.

1237
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: You can't, and I think there's a beauty in it.

1238
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: Do you just like the clothes? No, I don't give

1239
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: a shit about the clothes. I go out there and whatever.

1240
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not. No, I like an outfit,

1241
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: but I don't really care. Most days i'd be out there.

1242
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: I go out there by myself. I will do a

1243
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: whole eighteen by myself in some gray sweatshorts and a

1244
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: little tank top, and I will golf eighteen holes. And

1245
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: I find beauty in the grass. I find beauty in

1246
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: the quiet. I find I find beauty in being in

1247
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: my own head and trying to figure something out quietly

1248
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,479
Speaker 2: without any interruptions. There's no multitasking. It's just like it's

1249
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 2: like my painting. It's the same thing anyway. I would

1250
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: love to take you. I'm gonna take you, all right.

1251
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: We have a couple of segments, Okay, before you go,

1252
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: We're not gonna leave here.

1253
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: No, because I gotta figure out what I learned that's.

1254
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: Not learned anything. Stop. You know I've learned you're the

1255
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: daughter of an educator. I know.

1256
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: That's why I got to really be if you.

1257
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: Don't figure this first of all real quick, because I

1258
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: have an in real life questions. First of all, the

1259
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame induction is really fucking cool.

1260
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. And thank you.

1261
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: What are you gonna say your speech? Do you know?

1262
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: No idea?

1263
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna practice my tea, So you're gonna you're

1264
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: definitely gonna cry. Does it make your emotional these things

1265
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: or not that anymore? That might might. Everybody's excited about

1266
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: that one. So I think it's really cool.

1267
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: I think it is too.

1268
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: What does success look like to you right now? You've

1269
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: done a lot, like what kind of I don't know success?

1270
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, like is there another level of success

1271
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: that you wish to attain? Is there anything that you're chasing?

1272
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: Or I feel like you have to conquer.

1273
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Still, always, always, even even you know, just finishing things,

1274
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: just finishing the things that I have started. Like I

1275
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: told you, I'll will play you a bunch of music,

1276
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: so much music that I just need to finish. I'd

1277
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: be happy to finish that, you know. I'm happy to

1278
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: finish just basic tasks. I'm going to be a better parent,

1279
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like this to me, I'm

1280
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: going I want to be a better I want to

1281
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: cook better, I want to design better.

1282
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean this.

1283
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm a constant student. So whatever it is I'm interested in,

1284
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: I want to get better at it. You know. I

1285
01:03:54,280 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: want to read more, draw more, paint more, as many things.

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Speaker 1: I want to learn how to fix my car. You

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: don't know how to fix your car, no, but I

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: want to be under the hood.

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Speaker 2: And we think, you know, we think, you know what

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01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: we think what we think that Cleo is inside of you,

1291
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: like that she has she holds space inside of you.

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: Cleo knows how to fix cars, Cleo know how to

1293
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: do itside? Is she not? Is that is that a

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: myth that we have in our head? Like is there

1295
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: any of her in you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I just saw e clips because I've been prepared. I

1298
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: was looking at a bunch of stuff and I was like, yo, no, no,

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 2: you're so and you're such a baby. Like your skin

1300
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: looks so you look like such a baby in that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just like I was like, look

1302
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: at her, she looks so, I don't know, she's like

1303
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: a baby. It's so good. You just like you wrapped

1304
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: your arms around that character in a way that was different.

1305
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to. That was the goal. I was like,

1306
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: y'all can't see because people don't see you as you.

1307
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: People don't always see what you can achieve what you

1308
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: see for yourself. You know what I mean. And it's

1309
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Speaker 1: something I said to the graduates at North Carolina Ant.

1310
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: You have to don't be afraid to drive down that

1311
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: road that the world doesn't see for you yet, because

1312
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: you see it. You know, you see that, you have

1313
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: that vision, you have that imagination. You can see yourself

1314
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: like that. But the world may not be able to

1315
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: see you in that role yet. So now you got

1316
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: to show them so that they, in their small imagination,

1317
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: can now see it in front of them. And so like,

1318
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: there's so many things and so whatever I think of that,

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Speaker 1: I think I can do. I know I can do.

1320
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: I just need to put the work in to do

1321
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: it and make the time to do it. I need

1322
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Speaker 1: to figure that out.

1323
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: But are pieces of you in all those Khadijah and Clio?

1324
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: Definitely there are pieces of you.

1325
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, for sure? I mean just me in so

1326
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: many ways because event literally rode around in a car

1327
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: with me for weeks looking at studying my mannerisms and

1328
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: my ways and my lingo and writing for me. You know,

1329
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: Cleo is comprised of my aunt, some of my former classmates,

1330
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: like a few people that actually know I made her

1331
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: maids sense makes sense by figuring out who she was,

1332
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: because I know somebody you know in high school that

1333
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: was nice with the hands and was just knocking girls

1334
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: out for what. But that's one of the girls I

1335
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: found out lost her mother. So it was really like

1336
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: she didn't know what to do with those feelings and

1337
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: that anger, and so her friends, who she loved and

1338
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: who loved her, all they had to do is point

1339
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: and she was going to handle it. And I was like,

1340
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Cleo is gonna go all out for

1341
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: her friends. She didn't have parents. We don't never see

1342
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: Cleo's parents in that movie. These are her fans, this

1343
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: is her family, her girls and her family, so she's

1344
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna go all out for them. It made sense.

1345
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: I had to make it make sense. So good so legend, yeah, man.

1346
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: And not great, And we had premie We had an

1347
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: East Coast premiere for that. I remember it was like

1348
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: the whole hip hop world was at that premiere, and

1349
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: I knew when that kiss came. It was everybody was like, oh, like,

1350
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: the whole theater went crazy. The whole theater went nuts.

1351
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: What did you feel like? Though?

1352
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: I felt crazy, but I was laughing because I went

1353
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: to see the movie eight times and in the theaters

1354
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: because listen, I was poor, poor Shah my mother. Everybody's like, Okay,

1355
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: we gotta this is here, this is gonna happen. I'm like,

1356
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: it's in the script. Sorry, it's in the script. It

1357
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's not like I is missing it.

1358
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: It's in the script. If I signed up to do this,

1359
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: I signed him to the script. So but how else

1360
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: would you see me as an actor? If I don't

1361
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: step outside of who you know me as who I

1362
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: really am. I have to stretch myself, you know, in

1363
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: order to be considered for some other roles, I have

1364
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: to let you see me in a different way. So

1365
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: that is part of the time. It's definitely part of

1366
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: your greatness. I'm sure acting greatness. Greatness boaking chances, gotta

1367
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: take chances.

1368
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: Hey guys, you ever signed up for a phone plan

1369
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: thinking Wow, what a great price, and then a few

1370
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: months later it's like, surprise, your bill is higher. We

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Speaker 2: hate that. With boost Mobile, you pay twenty five dollars

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Speaker 2: a month forever. That's unlimited talk, text and data starting

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Speaker 2: at just twenty five dollars a month. There's no price hikes,

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Speaker 2: there's no contract, and this is forever. Plus, Boost Mobile

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Speaker 2: is now a legit nationwide five G network. They invested

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Speaker 2: billions building five G towers across the country. So what

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: you need to do is visit boostmobile dot com or

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Speaker 2: head to your local booths store today and get unlimited talk,

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Speaker 2: is after thirty gigabytes, customers may experience lower speeds. Customers

1382
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: will pay twenty five dollars a month as long as

1383
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: they remain active on the Boost Unlimited plan. We have

1384
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: a segment called voice note. It's our boost mobile voice note.

1385
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: It's a booth mobile Walder University. I don't know, they'll

1386
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: fix it later. So we have a segment it's called

1387
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 2: a voice note. It's usually a friend of the show whatever.

1388
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: And so I ran into a friend, the mutual friend,

1389
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: and mentioned that you were coming on the show, and

1390
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: she just had a little note for you. So it's

1391
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: just a little quick voice note. And I thought she

1392
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: was perfect because I always hear stories, like I had

1393
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: said to you before, about how you pour into people.

1394
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: And I remember a story about reading a story about

1395
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: you talking about how this woman had poured into you

1396
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: one time. So it's a quick little note voice note.

1397
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: But I'm going to play it an you time.

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Speaker 3: Queen, Queen Queen, thank you for so many things, and

1399
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 3: thank you for being my daughter. You know we did

1400
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 3: that show star. You're just such a wonderful person for

1401
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: so many reasons, so many things that you've done for

1402
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 3: me that you don't know. I know, and it's because

1403
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: you love me, and I love you too, honey. Thank you,

1404
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: And Happy Mother's.

1405
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: Day, yoh god too. Patty. That was the legendary Patty

1406
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: LaBelle Patty my chest, I feel it right here for

1407
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: the week.

1408
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: What does that? What does that bring up for you?

1409
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: Oh? My god, my whole life. She's been around my

1410
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: whole life, my whole life. If it wasn't for Patty

1411
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: La Belle, you might not even know who I am

1412
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: at this point. Because when I lost my brother at

1413
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: twenty two, people were walking up to me like, make

1414
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 1: we I tea for her, I'm sorry about your brother.

1415
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: I get autograph, like one word, Oh I heard about

1416
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: your brother. I get all of that. Like I was

1417
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: like this business people don't care about me, they don't

1418
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: care about how I feel it. I'm I was ready

1419
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: to like check out of this whole thing. And Patty

1420
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: LaBelle is one of the people who I talked to

1421
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: who talked to me. She has lost sisters, she's been

1422
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: through it.

1423
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: It lost four sisters.

1424
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, so her heavy d A couple of people who

1425
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: have been through that were able to talk to me

1426
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: and like help reframe my thought my thoughts at the time,

1427
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: and just it out just that I was going to

1428
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: get through it. You know, it's tough just by understanding

1429
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: just first of all, just by understanding that I'm feeling

1430
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: a pain that is unbelievable, you know, and there no

1431
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: words for but I pretty much started to get messages

1432
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: not to just don't throw it all away, that I

1433
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: was going to get through it, so don't throw it

1434
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: all away.

1435
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: And she was one of those.

1436
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: She was one of those. She's and she's been there,

1437
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, she's been there and we've I mean, this

1438
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: is my mother played her music in the house. They

1439
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: were mutual friends. She's from Philly, were from Jersey like

1440
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: where there's. She's just been there my whole life, you know.

1441
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: And she loves you. I love her. I love her

1442
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: and she and g She runs motorcycles too, and can cook.

1443
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: I just can cook.

1444
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: She get down, she's she I don't want I don't

1445
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: want to say it too soon, but she will be

1446
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: on an up and coming episode the podcast. Can't wait

1447
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: to see and I'm going to be honored to have

1448
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: her on. But she agreed to do the pod too,

1449
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: so we're gonna have her on, so you have to

1450
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: have on. She said that little voice note for you,

1451
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: and I thought it was so dope, and I think

1452
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: it really speaks to like how you were talking about

1453
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: at the beginning of this interview. It's like full circle. Really,

1454
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: because you pour into people, they pour back into you.

1455
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: Patty is about to be eighty two years old and

1456
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: she's still pouring in. She pour into people. She's pour

1457
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: into you right now. I feel you felt that even

1458
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: that just a note of love, like just to I

1459
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: see you, I love you, yep, you know. Like but

1460
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: she said also that you poured into her, and she

1461
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: said she don't know that. I know. Do you know

1462
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: what she's talking about?

1463
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1464
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: Maybe something star did you get, maybe you helped her

1465
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: get the role. I don't know.

1466
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: Something she said that anything for her, anything for her,

1467
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: and I'll make sure people treat her with respect. That

1468
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a problem, you know what I mean.

1469
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: I love that seriously, Like this is like she is

1470
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: a national treasure, you know. So it's like you you gotta,

1471
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: we got to take care of our queens and kings

1472
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: and treat them like such, you know, treat them as

1473
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: such and make sure they get the respect that they deserve.

1474
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: And you know, they changed the whole culture. So if

1475
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: she feels like me, I don't even know what to say.

1476
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: I stuck over that. I was not expecting that, you know, Patty,

1477
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: I love her so much. I love her so much.

1478
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: How could you not. She's such a good soul.

1479
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: Is her family. They keep her looking fly like. She

1480
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: looks so much flying. And she's still on tour. Mm hm.

1481
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: She's got a full brand in Walmart and Walmark Food brand.

1482
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: She's still relevant.

1483
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: Eighties is on one. I can't wait to have my

1484
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: eightieth birthday.

1485
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: Really went to an eightieth birthday born. She had an

1486
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: amazing eighties.

1487
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,520
Speaker 1: These eighties are out of control.

1488
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you have no fear about age or

1489
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: no issues with aging or any of that weird stuff.

1490
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: And you know a thousand people and if they did,

1491
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: you rocking.

1492
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: Like it's you can't wait.

1493
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1494
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: So fifty didn't hit you hard or fifty.

1495
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: The whole world shut down. So I was like, yeah,

1496
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm home. Oh it cod been home in years. It

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Speaker 1: was home for six months, like okay, with a newborn.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is different, but it was

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Speaker 1: for me. It was it was a break that I

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Speaker 1: probably needed. The world had to stop because I was

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: planning on having a fifty hour party. I was about

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: to tear ish up. I had a plan well to teachers,

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: but nah, I.

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: Mean no fear is about sixty or seventy or.

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't really look at time like that, you know

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. I just don't. I don't, I don't.

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: I just know too many people older than me. I've

1508
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: always rolled with people older than me, at least four

1509
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: years older than me, and I've always had something to

1510
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: look forward to, and so to me. You know, my

1511
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: grandmother was like in her eighties, and she was funny

1512
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: and spunky and laughing and enjoying life and so not

1513
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: that she was without her challenges, but I wanted to

1514
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: be like her. I was like, this is how you live.

1515
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: You just keep living, you keep learning, you keep doing things.

1516
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you don't do what you did in

1517
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: your twenties, but I don't want to. I don't think

1518
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: I want to do everything I did in my twenties.

1519
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: Hell tore them twenties up, you know, I know you did.

1520
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: I do not want to go back to.

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: You.

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: But if I don't leave the door open, I'm I'm

1523
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: not leaving it open for what I still have to learn,

1524
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 1: like you said, and what I have to give, because

1525
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: some of this we got to just pass it on,

1526
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: pass it along. And so no, I'm going to live

1527
01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: as long as I can.

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna do our speed round of I

1529
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: R L Questions in the World, and we're gonna let

1530
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: you go because I know you have things to prepare for.

1531
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: I know that. By the way, the AMAS are coming.

1532
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: Queen Latifa is our host for this year's American Music War.

1533
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: What should I do?

1534
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: You should do? I do not have this planned already?

1535
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: You have this.

1536
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: You should just show up with that crown.

1537
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: Yep, bust the crowd and left a little bit. Maybe

1538
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: I'll start straight. I don't let that joint slink a

1539
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: little forward, Like.

1540
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: This is fun for you at this point, right, Like

1541
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: closing the AMAS is like like.

1542
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: What is that?

1543
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: That's just you?

1544
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: Like, it's a music show. How can it not be fun.

1545
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: I just want to see what everybody's gonna do, what

1546
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: you're wearing, how you feeling. I just want everybody to

1547
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: have a great show. This one's for the people. You know,

1548
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: they get to vote for the winners, So I just

1549
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: want the audience to have a good time. I wanted

1550
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: to look great on TV. I wanted to look great

1551
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: in person.

1552
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: Now you're doing that, You're doing the voice, you do

1553
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: like you got a lot of shit coming up, I

1554
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: do okay, I rol speed round and then you're bold.

1555
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 2: Then you're out of here. So you could go prepare

1556
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: for the voice and for amas on a scaley music

1557
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: on ahattant, we can't because we have to clear it.

1558
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: Then got clear this do we.

1559
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten? How happy are

1560
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: you today?

1561
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 1: How happy am I? Today?

1562
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Today? Hey? Do you run ten normally? Do you

1563
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: run high normally?

1564
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: You dah happy? What is happy day?

1565
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:25,799
Speaker 2: Okay?

1566
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: Ten? You gotta tell yourself first, guilty pleasure, guilty pleasure.

1567
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: I don't like the guilty part. Okay, pleasure, Okay, pleasure, biggest,

1568
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: greatest pleasure?

1569
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: Right now?

1570
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: What's giving you the greatest pleasure? Those sweet smiles and

1571
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,480
Speaker 1: laughs that I'm gonna get when I get home? Oh,

1572
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: baby kisses? I love that Freddy stuff.

1573
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: What are you most proud of about yourself?

1574
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: Oh? Most proud of? Wow? I think I'm most proud

1575
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: of all the people who I've helped through my career

1576
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: that would otherwise have been overlooked. By using my power

1577
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: to empower other people.

1578
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: Pet peeves or triggers, people.

1579
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: Who are disrespectful to women.

1580
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: M word.

1581
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: Feel the way to that. Okay, stop the violence and

1582
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: hip hop. Why oh yeah? Or children or old people?

1583
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: What's your men? What's you?

1584
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: Basically everything?

1585
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: Don't don't be a bully and don't be an asshole.

1586
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: Basically I can't stand and bully. That's don't put your bully.

1587
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: Can I get that on a T shirt?

1588
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: Don't be a bully and don't be an asshole? Yes, yes,

1589
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: it's good. There's a there's a Hawaiian what is it?

1590
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't want to mess it up. There's

1591
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: like a Hawaiian term. When I went to Hawaii, they're like, no,

1592
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: is it keep it pono or keep it something like that,

1593
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: and I was like, what does that mean?

1594
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: Guilty pleasure is a hawk of dance they're doing New

1595
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: Zealand at Traditional. It's like a traditional dance slash chant

1596
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: that they do to celebrate things or for its wedding

1597
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: happening or somebody's coming home from somewhere, and everybody knows.

1598
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: It's from the kids to the old people. And I'm

1599
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 1: telling you, I put that thing on. I got goosebumps

1600
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: right now. Hard day at work, running low on energy.

1601
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: I just put it on. And then somebody said, we're

1602
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna do it. We're gonna dedicate a hawk to black

1603
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: people right now online, and I was like, let's go now,

1604
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: you have to watch.

1605
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: That's your pleasure right now.

1606
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: It's always it gives you joy, it does cure joy.

1607
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: What do you pray for most?

1608
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: Oh? What do I pray for most? Forgiveness and family?

1609
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: How often do you think about your legacy?

1610
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: Not that often? Really, I don't think about it that

1611
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: often when I'm reminded of it.

1612
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 2: M what do you think? What do you want it

1613
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: to be? Or what do you want even if you

1614
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: walk out of a room you leave here today, what

1615
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: do you want to leave people with? What do you

1616
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 2: want people to say about you or feel?

1617
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: When you know people feel like, you know, inspired in

1618
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: some sort of way. I hope they feel like that

1619
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: something they could take from this conversation we've had and

1620
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: apply to their own lives in some sort of way,

1621
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: shape or form in a good way, and to give

1622
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: to other people, help other people. You never know when

1623
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: you're going to need some help yourself. So word that

1624
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: comes back around.

1625
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: Hey, guys. Support for this podcast is brought to you

1626
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Speaker 2: by Walden University. Have you ever thought to yourself, what

1627
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Speaker 2: if I could go after what I actually want and

1628
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Speaker 2: that you want. And you can make a difference where

1634
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Speaker 2: for change, certified to operate by SHIV. One last question

1638
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: in the bowl. You're gonna go in the bowl before

1639
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: we let you go home today. Can't wait to see

1640
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 2: you on the AMAS.

1641
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you put my hand in that bowl.

1642
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: The bull is a good ball. Do you want me

1643
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: to pick it for you?

1644
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't need you to pick it for me.

1645
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: I want to know, all right, you'll pick your own.

1646
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: You're sure you have me both picked one?

1647
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: Yes, you pick one and you answer it?

1648
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: You did have you know? What was it on? There

1649
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: was the Queen latif for show at you had a

1650
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: talk show. You could host this pod.

1651
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: But you have a better talk show hosts. So do

1652
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: keep doing this, We'll learn it from you. For many years, what.

1653
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Would you what would you ask me as a talk

1654
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: show host?

1655
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: When is one one time when you thought you were

1656
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: gonna quit that you decided that you couldn't?

1657
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: Me yes?

1658
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: And what made you get up and keep going?

1659
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: After my car accident, I was tired. I felt disconnected.

1660
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: I felt like I didn't want to talk about the

1661
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 2: same shit I was talking about. I didn't I felt

1662
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel useful in the way that I

1663
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: had been useful in the past. So if you're not

1664
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: useful in that way, then how do you how do

1665
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: you show up? And then also I was like I

1666
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: was not well. My body was not good, you know,

1667
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: I was like struggling. So I was like, maybe I

1668
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: just maybe I'm done, and maybe I just just And

1669
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: then too number one, you know, you gotta I still

1670
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: gotta figure out what look like. But then also I

1671
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 2: realized God gives you those type of moments because because

1672
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: you were a little stuck and you needed to be

1673
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: shaken up a little bit. Even though it feels harsh

1674
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: at the time, You're like, it didn't have to be this.

1675
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: You think like, did it have to be like this?

1676
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: And you're like, hit you up, and then you know

1677
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: then it's uncomfortable, the transition into whatever the new version

1678
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: of you is about to be, and so uh so yes,

1679
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: I have to go through that. And then once I

1680
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: got to the other side, I was like, wait, I

1681
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 2: do have some ideas. I do have some things I

1682
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: want to And that's how the pod actually was launched

1683
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: because I wanted to have more meaningful conversations for somebody

1684
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: who's sitting home feeling that to feel inspired by, like

1685
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: when you get knocked down, or you need to like you,

1686
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: how you That visual that you showed a loan could

1687
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: literally pick somebody up today, you know what I'm saying.

1688
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: So that made me want to look how good you are?

1689
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: You asked me one question and I'm enjoying it. Keep

1690
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: talking and I'll stop. You're doing the boll stop.

1691
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Look I talked, got to talk so much. She gave

1692
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: me the ball.

1693
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: Take the last question, and then I have one in

1694
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: the bowl that's did that but got back up. Thank you.

1695
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Seriously, you come with like such a different wisdom and

1696
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: a handle that is so like so sure, it feels

1697
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: so sure. And maybe because I've been listening to you

1698
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: on the radio for many, many years. But it's just

1699
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: and you've been in front of the mic, not just

1700
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: behind the mic, you know what I mean, you know

1701
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: what both sides of it, and your parent like you

1702
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: got a lot to offer than you. You know everybody.

1703
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: You've been through a lot of things. So it's just

1704
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: like a certain handle that you have on this that

1705
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: to me just feels very relaxing to watch, very easy

1706
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: to watch you talk to your guests, and I like

1707
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: the personal way you're able to do these interviews. I'd

1708
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: love to see you on a huge stage with a

1709
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: huge audience and lots of cameras.

1710
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: Do you think this is still placed like for that

1711
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Speaker 2: in the world?

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think it would be any different than this,

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's the conversation that you're

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: able to generate. That's just what everybody will be looking at. Anyway.

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, I love you. Thank you.

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: And you have a special room for Joe and his

1717
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: art and me. Can I come in your room and

1718
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: do art?

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01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good question. What is it? Tell me?

1720
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: If you have a chance to live forever, would you

1721
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: take it?

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01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: M M. I think that's a great question for you.

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: That's a time.

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01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: What am I going to do forever? You did a

1725
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: lot of way.

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01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Do I got age in this forever? Do I get

1727
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: to like? Stay right? So?

1728
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: You have too many questions? Next question?

1729
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: I can't answer this question?

1730
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: Can I ask you the question? I'm going to ask

1731
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: you the question I like from THEE I can't find that.

1732
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read it to you. Ready, Well, this

1733
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 2: is my favorite one in the bowls. So before you leave,

1734
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 2: first of all, I love you. Thank you for today.

1735
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: I love you.

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01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 2: You are a gift to us all for real. We

1737
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: appreciate you. And I know you don't like people in

1738
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: your business, and you let me go in your business

1739
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: a little bit to.

1740
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Know, and we're gonna cut all of that. I hope

1741
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: you enjoyed everyone.

1742
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: Why no, First of all, what she was talking about,

1743
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: don't don't get in trouble, don't go home and get

1744
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 2: in trouble.

1745
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Not Ai not.

1746
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,759
Speaker 2: I was very gentle today.

1747
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1748
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I know I didn't violate it anyway, Did I know?

1749
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: I didn't stop?

1750
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: All right?

1751
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: This is my favorite. I love this question for you,

1752
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: and I love this question in general. It's my favorite.

1753
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: If God were to text you right now, what would

1754
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 1: it say, are you wearing your reading glasses?

1755
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Stop?

1756
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: You know you wear reading glasses. Put you're reading before

1757
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: you're reading glasses. That's the reason I invented reading glasses.

1758
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: Oh oh was this here all that time? It was yeah, wow,

1759
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: oh wow. See all the questions. Would you want to

1760
01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: ask me that shit? For real? You know I'm not

1761
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: answering that one.

1762
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

1763
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm just joking? First of all, she would say, I

1764
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: am a woman. I got too many jokes for this answer. God,

1765
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: that's the biggest sense of humor, because God invented humor,

1766
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: so no worries.

1767
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: So she gets it.

1768
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta go. I got a child at home.

1769
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: That's what God just told me. God of God, thanks

1770
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: child at home. You gotta go. I'm watching this child.

1771
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: I got other people's chouts to walk, and fine, we'll go.

1772
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: I got other people's chous. That's when my guard had said,

1773
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: you want me to watch your child? How long? Do

1774
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: you know how expensive my time is?

1775
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: I thank you for that's what that's it. That's your answer.

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: That's your answer.

1777
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: God said, you're doing all right, kid, Pat on the back,

1778
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: go home. Both you girls did a great job.

1779
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: She didn't great she did great across the board in life,

1780
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 2: on the pod, that's all around.

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01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: Hey see what.

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01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 2: They are amazing at the Hall of.

1783
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: Fame and on the boys all the things.

1784
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: Thanks, I know we kept you.

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01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: This is Queen Montifa in real life.

1786
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like comments,

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: and check out all of the other episodes we have

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,919
Speaker 2: on Edge. Martinez I R O Podcast