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Speaker 1: we bring in Nick. Right, let's start with this. This.

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Speaker 1: Most of my life in college football, I feel like

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Speaker 1: by mid October I know who's going to play for

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Speaker 1: the National championship, barring some big upset. I honestly believe

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Speaker 1: there's five teams in the league. They have all sorts

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a great team because they don't

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Speaker 1: I never worried about the Chiefs in their opening loss.

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Speaker 1: if Burrow could get it right now, they won tonight.

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Speaker 2: I listen, I think I would include Dallas in the

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Speaker 2: if not more, about Purdy. Now we can say Shanahan

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Speaker 2: I think is interesting about your group of teams is

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Speaker 2: Tua just hung seventy on a team. Tua talk about

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Speaker 2: We would like that contract right now. We've never seen

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Speaker 1: There is one if you were great and I was great,

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Speaker 2: of I'm sure of Tua, which is why if there

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Speaker 2: just be very curious what they do. I'd be very

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think they really like him, and he is. His

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he should walk in there and say

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Speaker 2: you and me at work. Okay, let's just say that

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Speaker 2: I might walk into the office and be like, you

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Speaker 2: But like, so, the NFL's very cutthroat, and we know

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Speaker 1: No, I I would consider that because one hundred million

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a three year, one hundred and twenty million

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Speaker 1: I do think there is value where you say, guys,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there's different types of gambles. Like I again,

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Speaker 1: and almost always has a better than average coach and

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Speaker 1: a competent quarterback. They didn't lock into that. The Hunt

428
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Speaker 1: family knows what they're doing. You have an old school

429
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Speaker 1: ownership in Chicago, a rigid, defensive culture that's outdated. They

430
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Speaker 1: had to hire Bill Pollion to really run their quarterback

431
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Speaker 1: or their head coach search. So I don't think Justin

432
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Speaker 1: Fields is good, but much harder to succeed there than

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Speaker 1: Kansas City or Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, listen, I think it's Justin Fields has been

435
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Speaker 2: set up to fail. Yes, I also think he has failed. Yeah,

436
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: And it was, it was. It was bizarre the offseason

437
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: commentary surrounding him and the Bears. The Bears, the Bears

438
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: preseason Vegas win total was seven and a half, and

439
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking about it. I was like, if

440
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: the Bears go seven and ten, their fans are gonna

441
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: be thrilled. It's gonna have been a great season. So

442
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: anytime you can bet the under and still have what

443
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: would be a win, an under bet could win and

444
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: the fans could be like this was a great season.

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00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, well then it's probably an under team like

446
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: where And there was a lot of I just thought

447
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: wish casting. And I'm not trying to act like I'm

448
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: somebody that studies the All twenty two and I can

449
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, the guy's a dots and stuff.

450
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Speaker 2: But I watch every football game there is. I watch

451
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Speaker 2: as much as as humanly possible. I watched justin Fields

452
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: all last year, and at no point was I like, Oh,

453
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: that guy is a star. Now. Multiple times I was

454
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: like he might be the best running quarterback, the best

455
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: runner at the position I've ever seen, including Vic and Lamar.

456
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: I did say that, but there was not a single

457
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: moment where I was like, that guy throws the ball well.

458
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: And this offseason some of the quarterbacks on television were like,

459
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: I think he can win league MVP. League MVP is crazy.

460
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: First of all, your team's gonna win thirteen games. Second

461
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: of all, you've got to be awesome. What evidence do

462
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Speaker 2: we have of either of those things?

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's interesting that. I'm not a huge believer in

464
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Speaker 1: analytics for football. I think it works for baseball, though

465
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Speaker 1: I think it's hurt the sport, and I do believe

466
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: in basketball situational mid range jump shots are very important

467
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think the long game analytics works

468
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: in baseball and basketball get into the playoffs. I need

469
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Speaker 1: stops in baskets, need hoops. I don't need threes. I

470
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: need hoops in football. I'm begrudgingly accept some analytics. But

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Speaker 1: the number, the data that really sticks out with justin

472
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: fields is that he has more interceptions on four plus

473
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: seconds to throw like he has plenty of time, Like

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a data point out there where he

475
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Speaker 1: takes more sacks after four seconds, throws more interceptions and

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Speaker 1: in completions after four seconds. Mooney and DJ Moore are

477
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Speaker 1: a and Cole Comet and the other tight end from

478
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. They are fine skill players like. His problem

479
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: is he doesn't see the field particularly well to Zach

480
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: Wilson issue. They both run, have arms, they don't see

481
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Speaker 1: the field, and he's very reluctant to just let it go.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's I can't add anything more to it. And

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Speaker 2: one hundred cent agree. And I think he as where

484
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: I do think the team did him a disservices. I

485
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: think if he had more stability and more talent around

486
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: him early, he wouldn't be as he seems to be

487
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: nervous when he's playing and he's you know what I mean.

488
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: So that's why to me, what we're seeing right now

489
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: is the worst case scenario. I guess what I'm saying

490
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Speaker 2: is with him, even the best case scenario. I don't

491
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: think was ever going to be awesome, but it didn't

492
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Speaker 2: have to be this.

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Speaker 1: And how about this too. I remember when I hired you.

494
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Speaker 1: The I hired you, I was asked about you, and

495
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Speaker 1: so I listened to about three minutes of tape and

496
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Speaker 1: I said instantly, yep, I get that guy. He's good.

497
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Speaker 1: And I used to watch American Idol twelve seconds in

498
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Speaker 1: You're like hack lounge singer star. It's not hard. There

499
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Speaker 1: isn't it quality. I've watched c J. Stroud play six quarters.

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Speaker 1: He's good, professional, stands in the pocket, accurate thrower. Some

501
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Speaker 1: of this he has a defensive coach. He has a

502
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Speaker 1: rookie play caller.

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Speaker 2: And by the way he's down that it's not like

504
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: Texas have some great offensive line and they're down fort.

505
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Starters and we're starting and I watch him nick he

506
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: just makes better decisions. So well, that's he makes better

507
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: decisions than Zach Baker justin some of this is the

508
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Speaker 1: it CJ. Strout When I watch him, he just throws

509
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Speaker 1: it to the right guy all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that c J. Stroud through three games

511
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: has been a revelation because I thought I thought, okay,

512
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: very low ceiling, very high floor was what I thought

513
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: you were getting to c J. Strou Jared Goff, Yeah, sure,

514
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: absolutely like very low ceiling, very high floor, just stability.

515
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: But the through I mean, again, I don't want to overreact,

516
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: but now I think the ceiling is much higher than

517
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Speaker 2: I thought. You've said, Zach Wilson a couple of times.

518
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Speaker 2: I know the Jets are over discussed. Can we talk

519
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: about the Jets from sure? Yeah, okay, I am. I

520
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: think the Jets are going to kind of be let

521
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Speaker 2: off the hook for how disastrous this was always going

522
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: to be because Aaron got hurt. Because okay, so a

523
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: number of things here that just make no sense, and

524
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: they're being laid to bear with Aaron being hurt. Their

525
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: entire offseason when you look at it was about hiring

526
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Speaker 2: friends of Aaron Rodgers. Probably not a good way to

527
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Speaker 2: start that. Who's the guy who almost caught the ricocheted

528
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: hail Mary Cob, He answers, Randall Cobb. Why is Randall

529
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Speaker 2: Cobb that you signed McCole Hardman away from the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: He has one catch for six yards because Cobb and

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Speaker 2: Lazard are the ones getting on the field, Well, who's

532
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Speaker 2: making that decision. Oh yeah, Nat Hackett. What's his great qualification?

533
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's Rogers buddy. There was a very interesting

534
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Speaker 2: moment when Salah this weekend I'm sure you saw it

535
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: was asked about you know, why is Zack still the starter?

536
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Speaker 2: And he was about to say he's the best quarterback

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Speaker 2: we have, and then he stopped. He was like, he

538
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: gives his best chance to win. But the answer is

539
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Speaker 2: it's because Tim Boyle is the backup. So Tim Boyle,

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00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: this is I said this on TV. Both of my

541
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Speaker 2: co hos today said that can't be right, and I said,

542
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Speaker 2: just go google it. Tim Boyle played three years at

543
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Speaker 2: Yukon and then played one year one of the directional Kentucky.

544
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: Those three years at Yukon Colin I swear to God

545
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: this is accurate. He had one touchdown pass and thirteen interceptions.

546
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: So it's not like, oh, he never got to play.

547
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: He played three years of D one college football, had

548
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: one touchdown pass and thirteen interceptions. In the NFL, he

549
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: has thrown one hundred and eight total passes in a

550
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Speaker 2: six year career. That I don't know how he's had

551
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: a six year career. In those hundred and eight passes,

552
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: he's been picked off another eight times, so why is

553
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: he there? Oh yeah, because he was on rogers ayahuasca

554
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: trip with him. He's his buddy and that's his guy.

555
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: So Rogers goes down. And by the way, Dwayne Brown

556
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: this week is on the IR. That was gonna happen

557
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: whether or not Rogers went down. Dwayne Brown was going

558
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: to the IR and roberts Hell is still going to

559
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: be your coach. But there was like, and I'm sorry

560
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: that I'm this is kind of, you know, a long story,

561
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Speaker 2: but it'll it'll, it'll make sense. I'm gonna go to

562
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs for a moment. The Chiefs number six wide

563
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: receiver who's also their pump returner, got hurt in week two,

564
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Richie James, you know what they did between week two

565
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: and week three elevated a new pump returner off the

566
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Speaker 2: practice squad, was on the active roster yesterday, the like

567
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: fifty first most important guy on the team got hurt.

568
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, he's on IR. We need to elevate

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Speaker 2: someone to take that spot. The fucking Jets starting quarterback

570
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: went down, I know other quarterbacks.

571
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Speaker 4: They were like, we're gonna stick with Zach Wilson, who

572
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: we our team openly revolted against last year, was wearing

573
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Speaker 4: T shirts of his backup and we're shot.

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: This thing's going sideways, Like I don't think I know,

575
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: I know J Mack on your show is big on

576
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: like they can save the season with cousins, whatever it is.

577
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't know about say anything. What I know is

578
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's the worst quarterback I've seen in my life.

579
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Speaker 2: He's the worst that's gotten a lot of chances. The

580
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: team knows it, and they refuse to bring someone else

581
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: in a way that is it could be mystifying team.

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: They could threaten Aaron Rodgers. See I felt this with

583
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay at the end they were walking on eggshells.

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00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are walking on eggshells. They don't

585
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: want to offend Aaron Rodgers, Randall Cobb, Alan Lazard, Billy Hunter,

586
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Speaker 1: this backup quarterback. I mean, I think a lot with

587
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Speaker 1: Aaron is I think people are a little intimidated. Aaron

588
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: comes off. I think he's smart. I don't think he's

589
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: quite as like Peyton Manning smart. I think I don't

590
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: think he's as smart as he thinks he is. But

591
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: that's an epidemic in the world. I think with Aaron

592
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Old single rich Ring, he really has everybody. He has

593
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: the leverage. I mean even now the injury gives it

594
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: more leverage. Now they're really trapped.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if this thing really goes terribly so,

596
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: Sala's record is abysmal, like he now no. I said

597
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: this on your show, and people thought I was trolling

598
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Speaker 2: because this was before Rogers got hurt. When I was saying,

599
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: I thought the Jets, because of their offensive line, we're

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00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: going to have a terrible like, have a disappointing ear.

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00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: I said that I thought Salah was going to be

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Speaker 2: the fall guy, and then Rogers was going to use

603
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: the leverage of do I come back or don't I

604
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: come back to tell to make them make Nad Hackett

605
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: the head coach. I now truly believe that's what's gonna happen.

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00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: This Jets seems gonna win four games. Sala's overall record

607
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: at that point is going to be like a career

608
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: twenty five winning percentage. He has two division wins, ever,

609
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: and that's not gonna get much better. This year. He

610
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: got two, you got one, Morgan's Buffalo, I'm sorry. Three

611
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: division wins. Ever, now because the one against Buffalo, you

612
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: have two against Miami. The Jets couldn't score seventy points

613
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: in a six hour game, and Nat Hackett absolutely could

614
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Speaker 2: be the coach. Also, the offensive line thing, I can't

615
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: get over it. It's like it's like the Jets. I'm

616
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: gonna use a Colin Cowherd analogy. I'm not as good

617
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: as you, but I think it'll work. Aaron Rodgers is

618
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: like a private airplane that was on discount because the owners,

619
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: the people who owned it were like, ah, I think

620
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: it's it's a little old, little unreliable, kind of a

621
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Speaker 2: pain in the ass. So you were able to buy

622
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Speaker 2: it at a huge discount and then with your last

623
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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars of like renovating it making it as

624
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: nice as possible. It's like, all right, you got ten

625
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: grand left, should we buy some parachutes in case? Ever

626
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: they were right about it, They're like, eh, if we

627
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: need the parachutes, were fucked anyway, you spend it on champagne.

628
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: That's what they did. They could have they could have

629
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: used they could have re signed Mike White, they could

630
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: have had a real backup quarterback and said they're like

631
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: a spinning on Dalvin Cook spending on Rogers' buddies. If

632
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: he goes down, we're ruined anyway. And with an achilles injury,

633
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: yes you are screwed anyway. But if Rogers, let's just

634
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Speaker 2: what would have been really mortifying for the Jets is

635
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: if Rogers hadn't torn his achilles, he had just suffered

636
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's calf strain. And it's like, all right, guys,

637
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: just hold it together for five weeks for me. And

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00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: They look competent. Cardner Minshew won a game against the

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,799
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Speaker 2: a dumpster fire, just a disaster.

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Speaker 1: is yours, listen. I think that there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of coincidences in sports. I mean, I think the Bears

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00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: and the Jets are poorly owned and mostly poorly run.

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00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason Kansas City is almost

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: always competent and good, infrequently great. But now they're on

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00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a great run. Green Bays a was competent. I mean

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Speaker 1: even New England. Now it's a pop gun offense, but

665
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: they're competent. I mean, they beat the teams they should beat.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna beat Philadelphia, They're not going to beat

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Speaker 1: Kansas City or Buffalo, but they're gonna Miami. They'll beat

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Speaker 1: the teams they should beat, they'll they'll knock off one

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Speaker 1: or two. I don't think there's a coincidence. I mean

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time. I've been in this

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00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: business thirty years. It's the people who have a big

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00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: audience radio, TV, print, digital. It's not a coincidence. They

673
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: either work harder, they're more talented, they're smarter, they're more captivating.

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00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing in the NFL. The

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00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Jets are exactly Listen, think about it. They pursued Rogers

676
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: because they whiffed with a number two pick, right, so.

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00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: The numbers two picked if they had to pick, because

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00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: they whiffed on the number three pick for three years prior.

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00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: They were four years prior in Darnold, like, they've had

680
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: so many bites at this.

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: Anc, constantly spending bad money to fix it. So they

682
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: whiffed it with in a left tackle, they whiffed in

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00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So now they go get Dwayne Brown, and

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00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: now they overspend for Aaron Rodgers, and now they want

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: to bring in maybe Carson Wentz or Kirk Cousins. The

686
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Packers are a well run business. The Bears are a

687
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: poorly run business. The chiefs are a well run business.

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: The Jets are a poorly run business. These are all.

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Speaker 2: Business and to bring the Bears, I mean again, sorry

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: salt nowin for Bears fans. The Bears drafted justin Fields

691
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: because Mitch Trubisky didn't work out. Who they drafted over

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00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes in that draft. That was the Bears were

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Speaker 2: drafting a quarterback in the Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Drightaway, mel kiper no, no no. Greg Cosell said, Trubisky

695
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Speaker 1: is going to go in the first round. Watch him.

696
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: I was with my family in Hawaii. I went inside

697
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: off the beach to watch his Carolina team play, I

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00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: think Florida State. So I watched a half and I

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Speaker 1: text Greg Cosell. I said, I don't get it. His

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Speaker 1: ball die is twenty yards in. I don't get it.

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00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: And he said he's a front leg thrower and I

702
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: don't like him. And I said, Greg, I'm just a

703
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Speaker 1: I'm a radio TV guy. But his ball dies, his

704
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: ball doesn't carry. He made a sideline throw and I

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00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it was intercepted, but you could just

706
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: see that his and that was his NFL thing. He

707
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: was more athletic than he was given credit for. But

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00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: a far worse thrower than he was given credit for,

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00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and they drafted him. The Bears drafted a receiver named

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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: VELAs Jones in the third round two years ago. He

711
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: was at USC transfer to Tennessee. When he was at USC,

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00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: they could have made a phone call. He couldn't track

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00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the ball. He couldn't the ball was He's like a

714
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: center fielder who couldn't track the ball. He's been a

715
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: complete bust. Like it's like they don't their phones don't work,

716
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: they don't make calls, they don't have It's like these

717
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: are Trubisky was a was not a first round quarterback.

718
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: Beilis Jones was not an NFL third round pick. Like

719
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: sometimes I just again, it's not a coincidence. They don't

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Speaker 1: know offense.

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Speaker 2: I know it's getting late, but you mentioned USC, which

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00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: reminded me I wanted to Can I ask you a

723
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: college football question? This is kind of a media question

724
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: as long as well as college football. Oh, by the way,

725
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: I think there's nothing And I like Dan Lanning. I

726
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: like him a lot. Dan Lanning is a Kansas City guy.

727
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: Used to listen to my radio show called Into My

728
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 2: Buddies radio show in Kansas City. The Church of Laslo.

729
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: I like Dan, but I got a little bit of

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00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: a chuckle. The coach of the Oregon Ducks also known

731
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: as the Nike Marketing University of Football, being like, they're

732
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: in it for the clicks. We're hard, No, we play

733
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: these games with the lights off, Like, huh, don't you

734
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: guys have neon yellow jersey, a.

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00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: Hundred uniforms or good?

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Speaker 2: Like a break coldal speech was for his players to

737
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Speaker 2: get them fired up, and I saw that. I'm like,

738
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Speaker 2: this isn't exactly Texas A and m out here being like,

739
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: give me a break. All right. So here's my question.

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Speaker 2: I think USC is gonna score seventy points on Colorado.

741
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Speaker 2: I think it's end play. I mean, I think Oregon

742
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: has a better defense than USC. Yeah, USC is a

743
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: better offense. US is gonna score every time you catch

744
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: the ball. If Colorado gets annihilated again, does the country

745
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: stop caring about them before this year?

746
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think it. I think it. I

747
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: think Colorado, because they're humiliated, is probably more competitive at home,

748
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: and USC's defense is better than last year, but not great,

749
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's more of a forty five to

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Speaker 1: twenty one game. I think it's I don't think it's

751
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: that close us. He is clearly better. They may score

752
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: in the fifties. I think. I think what Dion has

753
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: done he has not moved college football fans to his channel.

754
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: He's brought in people that didn't like college football, pro fans,

755
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Dion fans, Cowboy fans. If you look at the numbers,

756
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: he's not moving people from Georgia to Colorado. He found

757
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: like three people.

758
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: He's got it. Yeah, and it's and listen, it's not

759
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: it's not poor form to say it, because it's facts.

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Speaker 2: He is. There are massive amounts of black people that

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00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: were not watching college football that are now. Not that

762
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: black people don't watch college football, but when you look

763
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: at the act, our guy michaelmulbihill at Fox has all

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00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: the data and tweets it out Dion. What Dion has

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00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: done for the for the black audience of college football,

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Speaker 2: and that's I mean, it's it's it's historic, it's un

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Speaker 2: it's it's unprecedented.

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00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Like the thirty five to forty percent viewers that don't

769
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Speaker 1: watch the sport.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and that's that's not obviously all black people, but

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00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: that is disproportionately a black audience and so I I

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Speaker 2: just wonder I think this there was the other like

773
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: the idea, there were some After Colorado got their teeth

774
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: kicked in, there was some pushback. They were like, oh,

775
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: maybe now the media stopped pushing this down our throats. Guys,

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00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: there were ten million people watching Colorado Colorado State game

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: at two in the morning Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you go to DraftKings, were volume war with DraftKings, right, DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: If you go to DraftKings, they have a tab. It's

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Speaker 2: like the end. You want to bet the NBA, the NFL,

782
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Speaker 2: college football, Colorado, and the tennis. Like, I mean that's true.

783
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: Good look at it. It's I mean it is. This

784
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: was not. Certain things are media creations. The interest in

785
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: Colorado was not. People were into it. Yeah, and I

786
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 2: think they still are if they lose by forty next week.

787
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Speaker 2: I think it Discip.

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00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelcey is very much media generated. It's fun.

789
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: It was a blowout, the game was over. Let's put

790
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: it up. I'm fascinated in Deon Sanders. I don't think

791
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: it will be as uh, you know, Intergalact ratings, Bonanza

792
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: comets through the sky, but I'll still watch. I mean

793
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: I said before, I'm not rooting former against him. I

794
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: root for interesting. Dion's interesting, the cowboy hat, the shades,

795
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: the attitude Colorado has been a I mean, you don't

796
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: even remember this. I knew Colorado sports because of Robbie

797
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: Benson a movie in the seventies called One on One.

798
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: You could google. No it was I don't remember, like

799
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: nobody cared about Colorado sports.

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Speaker 2: The you know, the first memory I have a Colorado sports.

801
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: I was never a Missouri football fan, but I'm from Kansay.

802
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: Missouri is the fifth down play. I don't know if

803
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: you met, Missouri was playing Colorado at the end of

804
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: a Big eight season one year and the down guys

805
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: screwed up and Colorado got a fifth down. But so,

806
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: all right, here's my last Colorado thing. This is their

807
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: schedule the rest of the way. Home for USC loss,

808
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna get. Yeah, at Arizona State when they can

809
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: win that, okay, Home for Stanford win, at u c

810
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: l A win, Okay, well then they're fine. Home for

811
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: Oregon State is probably a loss, go either way. Game

812
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: home for Arizona win, and then at Wazoo and at

813
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Utah lost loss.

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00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: They'll definitely lose at Utah.

815
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Speaker 2: That will lose Utah. Utah. Utah is just big. If

816
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: you put took Shador and Colorado's best skill guy and

817
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: and gave to Utah, you have the best team in

818
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: the country. I mean, because Utah has all that. When

819
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: Dion's talking, I need seven or eight people he means

820
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive line. Yeah, he needs big people. But

821
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: so you think they can go seven and five eight? Absolutely,

822
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: that would be an amazing Since that would be an

823
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: amazing I.

824
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: Think it's wonderful he has brought and I when I

825
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: say he's brought people in that didn't watch the sport.

826
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Speaker 1: He's brought NFL fans in, Niner fans, Cowboy fans, He's

827
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: brought people that didn't really like they're Dion fans. And

828
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: by the way, if Dion walked through a mall, it's

829
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: not just it's it's he's Deon Sanders. He's had forever.

830
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Speaker 2: Wilds asked this and it was a very interesting question.

831
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't even on TV. He's asked me. He said,

832
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: is Dion the most famous person to ever coach college foot?

833
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: And it's like, I, I.

834
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Speaker 1: Mean, I don't well, bear think he is famous because

835
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: he coached college football. Yes, I think he's the most

836
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: famous person that has coached college football.

837
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Speaker 2: And like, right now, if Nick Saban and Dion Sanders

838
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: are walking on separate sides of the mall it First

839
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: of all, there are parts of the country where Nick

840
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Saban would not be bothered, right and even in Alabama,

841
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: everyone knows Dion. They might be more excited about Nick,

842
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: but everyone nobody doesn't know him, and so like there

843
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: that is a real power. It is a level of

844
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: like fame and celebrity we've never had in college.

845
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: When you when you have a nickname and people in

846
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: your nickname doesn't have anything to do with your name,

847
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: like Mamba Kobe, Yeah, that's famous Prime, Deon Sanders Prime,

848
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Like usually you know it. It's connected to your name.

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Speaker 1: Very few people music or otherwise that have a nickname

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Speaker 2: And it's another word on its own, you know what.

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Speaker 2: another word on its own. Prime means its own thing.

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Speaker 2: Colorado football, that's pretty goddamn powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think it's great for this. I love

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's right. I think that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Nick, Right, this has been fun. Good seeing you, buddy.

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