1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Before we get we get to this week's Falcons Audible, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: we have a message from Home Depot. Fast free delivery 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: from the Home Depot makes your projects hassle free. Forget 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: something you need, visit home depail dot com or the 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: home Depot app for free delivery on millions of products, 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: including same day and next day options. Get delivery at 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: the speed you need only at the home Depot. How 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: doers get more done? Order select in stock items by 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: four pm, subject to availability. Welcome to Falcons Audible, presented 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: by AT and T. I'm Dave Archer. That's DJ Shockley. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Derek Rackley's not with us, racks out softballing out on 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: the West Coast with his daughter. 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: He will be. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Back with us next week as we get things started 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: this week pre training camp edition of Falcons Audible. Shock Man, 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: it's good to see you, brother. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: No, Douve's good to be back. Man. I'm excited for 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: this season, excited to get going. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: As we record this podcast, we are literally one day 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: away from them getting on the grass. And before we 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: start the podcast, I even told Archi, but I wanted 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: to do this because we're starting a new season and 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: I got to give my man his Flowers Arch, What 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: years this with the Falcons? What year is this calling 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: Falcons games? Because you have done it at a high rate. Man, 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a fan. I've told them this a thousand times. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: But if you guys don't listen to Arch, I know 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: a lot of people who do listen, who say they. 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: Turn off everything and just turn on the radio. But 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: what year is this? Man? 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: And I think you know the credibilities to the roof 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: man play for this team. Now you get to do 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: all the different things you do with this organization. I'm 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: just proud to say I know you, man, but what 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: year is this for you? 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that. Shock. It's been fun to 37 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: work with you. You and I have worked a number 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: of years together. This is twenty two, twenty two coming up, 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: I think twenty for calling the games, twenty three. I 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: did the pregame post game show way back at three. 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: So Ben been associated with the team for a long time. 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Very proud. I had an opportunity appreciate you and you've 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: been You been doing stuff with this team for a 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: long time as well, So you and I are old 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: veterans of this kind of stuff. I got a few 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: more I got a few more years in the bank 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: than you do, but I appreciate being here with you. Bron. Yeah, 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: speaking of that, we spend a little bit off season, 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: and so what did the Shockley family get a chance 50 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: to do with this off season? It kind of sticks 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: out to you to get in you know what. 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 3: I think the best thing for Media's offseason was being 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: able to spend more time to famu As we know, 54 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 3: doing football season, it is go, go, go go. We're 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: always on the move, We're always doing something. And also 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: I got a chance to kind of get away with 57 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: the fam. I got a chance to. 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Watch my son play travel baseball. 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Get to be there on Saturdays and you know, sit 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: there as a fan, sit in my little rock and chair, 61 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: have my you know, my little beveragers off to the side, 62 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: you know, just sit there and watch him. 63 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: And that's what I look forward to. Man. 64 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: I don't get a chance to do that in the fall, 65 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: miss like his games or Saturdays in football. So just 66 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: to get the chance to wake up and do that 67 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: early in the morning, to be at the park all day, 68 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. Get to go watch my daughter she 69 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: ran tracticed them for the first time in the spring, 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: so I was able to go watch her. She actually 71 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: really did well in it, and uh it brought out 72 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: some different excitement for that. I never thought that she 73 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: would be excited about. So it was cool to be 74 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: able to do that. And then we took a lot 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: family vacate to Jamaica. Yeah, it was Jamaica, man, Good times, 76 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: good times month. We jumped in the blue Hole. We 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: uh you know, went. 78 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Atv Ryn uh in the pool for hours. 79 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: Of course, you're in the hotel room all day with 80 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: each other, so you just get that good family time, man, 81 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: And it's what we need, you know. It gives us 82 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: the kind of refresh we need as we get ready 83 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: for this long season. So a little charger definitely definitely 84 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: was good times. I'll chat about you, man. Off season 85 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: consisted of a few things. 86 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 87 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Had a chance to go visit my son out in Arizona. 88 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Lives in Arizona and been working out there. Worked for 89 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a big housing company out there, residential housing companies, a 90 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: supervisor out there, so I got a chance to spend 91 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: the time with him and his wife and the golf 92 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: out in are We actually did slip. It's funny because 93 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: he moved out there didn't care anything about golf, and 94 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: he here in Atlanta and he lives out there and 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: all these golf courses all the place in Arizona, and 96 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: he's playing golf all the time. So but one thing 97 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: I did get a chance to do, and I'm going 98 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: to throw this out to the Falcon fan out there. 99 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I had a chance to go on the Falcon Fan cruise. 100 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: You had things to do. You couldn't go with us 101 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that time, but we had. It was ten of us 102 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: former players, the likes of Michael Turner and Alan Rossum 103 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: and you know, Chris Moore, a lot of these, A 104 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of different guys went on a trip with us. 105 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: But we got a chance to hang out with Falcon fans. 106 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: There's about one hundred and fifty two hundred fans wow 107 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: on the boat with us. We were a Royal Royal 108 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Caribbean cruise Line Utopia the Seas, which is the second 109 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: largest cruise ship in the world, second only to the 110 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: new one that they just came out with, which called 111 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Icon of the Seas I think. But I got a 112 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: chance to go down to the Bahamas with the fans. 113 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: It was really cool. Spend a lot of times you 114 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: get a chance check out the cruise of the Falcons 115 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Falcons Fan Cruise, and go ahead and register. Come, come do, 116 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: come do with us. There'll be I don't know who 117 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: all get a chance to go, and I'm lobbying to 118 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: get it go again next year, maybe shot can go. 119 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: How accessible were you too, like the fans, because like obviously. 120 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Right there crew right there, yeah, right there with the fans. 121 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: Got to pick your brain about uh aj Terrell and 122 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. 123 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, not only that, you know there we're playing different games. 124 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: We're throwing the football with them, We're doing a bunch 125 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: of stuff out on the beach with him and stuff 126 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: like that. So you get a chance, go find the 127 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: Falcons Fan Cruise and see if you can get registered 128 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: for that. That was that was really fun. 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: C Man, I never been on a cruise, so it 130 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: would be interested with did you ever get like sea 131 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 3: sick anything? 132 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: Or you were pretty good? It was. 133 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: This thing is like a sh a floating shopping mall. Okay, 134 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: you don't even know you're on the ocean, dude. It's 135 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: like it's like seventeen floors high and it just cuts 136 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: through the water. Now, we didn't you know, we weren't 137 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: in the North Sea or anything like that, that kind 138 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: of stuff, but it was it was really cool. So 139 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: if you get a chance, go check out Falcons Fan cruise. 140 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of photos up right now, I think 141 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: on the Lantafalcons dot com you can check it out. 142 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: But if you want to, you know, get get in 143 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: your mind, maybe register for that next May. I believe 144 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: that thing will set sail again. All right, Training camps 145 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: here is shocked. We talked about it. I want a 146 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: training camp memory or two for you, is you came 147 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: into camp, what was the overall feeling? What what are 148 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: these guys feeling as they come to camp, whether they're 149 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: a new guy or an old guy. And sometimes that's 150 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: the same. 151 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: The fun thing about training camp, man, there's a little 152 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: sense of urgency because you go through off season, you 153 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: got OTA's and mini camps. You really know like there's 154 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: not really you're getting ready for a game. You know 155 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna have practice this week, you know you're gonna 156 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: have some practice next week, but you're not really getting 157 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: ready for the season. Training camp hits and you look 158 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: up and say, oh, we can have two weeks. 159 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: We got a real game. 160 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: It's getting real, Like think about it, Oh, in a month, 161 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: am I gonna be on this ball club? 162 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: And that's kind of how I thought about it. 163 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: Was like, Okay, in a month, depending on my performance, 164 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: will I be in Atlanta Falcon And that. 165 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Goes through your brain a little bit. 166 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: The other part for me that that that kind of 167 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: sets in for me, I think about a lot is 168 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: the bonds you make during training camp, the fun you 169 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: had because you're around guys, and when I was here, 170 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: we would get here early in the morning, you know, 171 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: six in the morning or whatever, and you'd be here 172 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: to For me, when I was a rookie, it was 173 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: I was here to ten thirty at night, and you're 174 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: here all day with your team. 175 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: You're staying at the dorms over there. 176 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: And I also remember during training camp the cool rookie 177 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: skits and the singing, all that kind of stuff. You 178 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: see different personalities from guys, and you find out what 179 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: guys have been doing in the off season, what makes 180 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: them go, and you kind of build that rapport with them, 181 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: and it's just fun to have that kind of you know, moment, 182 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: because you never are gonna have that group together again. 183 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: And you think about it, we had what I don't 184 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: know what, ninety guys coming to camp, and you knew 185 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: during that camp that was that ninety guys, And by 186 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: the time camp ends, it's gonna be fifty three guys, 187 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: sixty whatever it is that's on the team, and you 188 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: go your separate way. 189 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: So you build those bonds with guys. 190 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: And there's guys who I was in training camp with 191 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: that didn't make the team and still friends with today. 192 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: And it's cool to have those moments to celebrate guys, 193 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: but also you know, it's a real deal. 194 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: Now it's time to go to work. 195 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: I know you had some cool teammates and some cool 196 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: experiences during your training cap What was the funest members 197 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: you got? 198 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I would echo what you're saying 199 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: is it's a really strange situation because it's competitive. You're 200 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: trying to be one of fifty three guys that makes 201 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: us roster. There's ninety guys coming to camp. You don't 202 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: have to be a five beta CABA to figure out 203 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the numbers don't necessarily equate, so you're competing with guys 204 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that you're actually pulling for two to help you win. 205 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: It's really a strange dynamic in that you're not really 206 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: pulling against the player. You're trying to concentrate on yourself 207 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: and put your best foot forward. You hope he does too, 208 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and then whoever wins that job wins that job. So 209 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it's really a kind of a mind freeze to a 210 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: certain extent, where you're trying to fight through those kind 211 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: of things. But when I think back to training camp, 212 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: I think about the heat of Atlanta. I came down 213 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: here as a young guy trying to make a club, 214 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: much like you did when you came in from Georgia. Here. 215 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: I come from Iowa State down and they had had 216 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: they had one of the best quarterbacks in Falcons history 217 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: was still here, Steve Barkowski, and so you're learning from 218 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: him how to be a pro. But I remember fifteen 219 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: straight days of tow a days in full pads. They 220 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: don't do that anymore now because they're smarter than they 221 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: were back when I was playing. But you forgot what 222 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: day it was. I remember, I remember the heat of Atlanta. 223 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I remember the two a days. I remember Scott Case 224 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: and I playing nerf hoop at night in our room. 225 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: We had a hurd hoop, but we're shooting. 226 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: Shooting arm last for fifteen straight as of two at eight. 227 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you struggled, you struggle, the arm would get dead. 228 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, you had ice, you had the ice, the 229 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: arm after every practice. And then the thrill of making 230 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the team shock. You felt this too. I mean, when 231 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: you fight through all that, the heat, the battles, the 232 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: uh you know, the the tough days in the morning, 233 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and you've got a rally in the afternoon because you 234 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: got to have a better practice, you know, and an 235 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: absorbing playbook. And then I remember the coach walked by 236 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: me after the third preseason game, uh, Dan Henning, and 237 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: he said, uh, hey, David, you found a place to 238 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: live yet, Ay, and you talk about a feeling. Now, 239 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: there's no way I can describe because you don't know 240 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: you're I'm like, you'd like you're talking about shock. It's 241 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: a it's an everyday grind mentally, physically, emotionally because this 242 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: is your dream. You want to play in the league, 243 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: right and and so yeah, I never forget that. That 244 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: was one of the great feelings, one of the great 245 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: memories I have of that. Okay, training camp starts essentially 246 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: on Thursday here and we're we're recording this on a Wednesday. 247 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: The training camp starts Thursday, the players are in the 248 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: building doing a lot of interviews, some of the some 249 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: of the administrative things, if you will, that go into 250 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: kind of getting ready for a season. And they'll hit 251 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the field on Thursday, and then we've got open practices 252 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: and the fans sold. 253 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Out, mad mad last year. What does that? 254 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: What did that mean to you? Shock We had the 255 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: field and my training camp was in Swanee, but very 256 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: similar setup. The big Hill people came out, got all 257 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: set up on the hill and watched his practice. You 258 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: get the same thing here at Flowery Branch. Tell me 259 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: about that, especially as a guy that played his high 260 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: school football in Georgia, played his college football in Georgia, 261 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're playing your pro football 262 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: in Georgia. What did that mean to you? 263 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: First of all, it was cool to be drafted by 264 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: the team that you grew up watching and to be 265 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: in the state was really cool. And then have the 266 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: opportunity to come to the Atlanta Falcons and for years 267 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: you watch them on TV and you're like, oh man, 268 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: that would be cool, and you see all the fans 269 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: and to be a part of it, it. 270 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Was really surreal. I remember my rookie year. 271 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Obviously in two thousand and six, we also still had 272 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: Michael Vick and the biggest face in the National Football League. 273 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: And I remember running. 274 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: Out first practice, and you know, we used to do 275 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: a drill where you, you know, kind of you say, 276 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: you're like five ten yards away and you're just you're 277 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: you're jogging across and you're just getting warmed up, and 278 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: the fans are on the heel. Every time we got 279 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: towards the heel. It was as many people call it 280 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: my name as it was Michael Vick. 281 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: And I was. 282 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: Baffled by, like I'm looking at him, like this dude 283 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: is everything and people are still fans of me. 284 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: And I tell you, it gives you a little bit 285 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: more juice than you think. 286 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: It gives you a little bit more excitement to go 287 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: out and perform because so many people. 288 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, are watching and when you succeed. 289 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: I remember the first time getting in the my first 290 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: ever preseason game, and I'm a seventh round pick. I 291 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: don't get into you know, fourth quarter, if if if that, 292 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: and I get in probably middle of the fourth quarter, 293 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: and as soon as I run on the field, all 294 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: your year is fans barking. And it was a pretty 295 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: cool feeling that you know, people actually wanted to see 296 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: me play and then to play here. It's just you know, 297 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: cheer you on the top. So it's cool to have 298 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: the fans back. I know you guys are excited. All 299 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: three days are sold out coming up over the next 300 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: three days, which is really cool. It shows a lot 301 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: of excitement for the season, and I don't think fans 302 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: would be excited arch for a team that doesn't have 303 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: the potential or I think there are a lot of 304 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: guys that fans are excited to see and that speaks volumes. 305 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: I think for this organization to where they're at, obviously 306 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: the season and end the way we wanted, but still 307 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: coming to this year, fans are excited about what we've 308 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: done in the off season and to have you guys 309 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: at camp. For these players, trust me, it means a 310 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: lot for these guys to walk out of the locker 311 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: room and look over to their right and see just 312 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: a heel full of fans cheering kids out there. They 313 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: trying to come before school goes, and everybody just enjoying 314 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: that time watching one of their favorite teams is always 315 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: pretty cool. So I'm glad that we get the fans back. 316 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: I'm glad that the fans are coming out and it's 317 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: sold out. Speaks volumes to what this team could be. 318 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of energy. You guys provide that energy, 319 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: especially when it gets a little bit warm and you 320 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: start to get into some of the days, the dog 321 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: days of training camp. To have that energy on the fields, 322 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: almost like running in the Mercedes Benz Stadium and you 323 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: need something to happen in the fourth quarter, and the 324 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: way the fans rise up down there, UH to help 325 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: the help the players kind of find that extra piece 326 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: of energy. Tickets are free. We talked talking about talking 327 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: sold out, but you got to do go to Atlanta 328 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Falcons dot com slash training camp and get your tickets 329 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: now again they're free. Go get your tickets so you 330 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: can come out and watch the Atlanta Falcons UH and 331 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: really pump them up and get them ready to go. Now, 332 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: we're doing a live show Saturday from practice here if 333 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: you'd like to tune in Saturday morning to watch the 334 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: practice alongside Taylor Vismore and a couple of special surprise 335 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: VIP guests. We'll be doing that on Atlanta Falcons dot com. 336 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. I was just visiting with 337 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: with Taylor a little bit ago. We're trying to put 338 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: that put a plan together for the show and and 339 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy it. It's a kind of a 340 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: cutting edge deal doing a kind of a live broadcast 341 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: during training camp. We'll have I think Tory mcelhaney, but 342 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: down on the fields she's going to talk to potentially 343 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, kind of a sideline reporter type deal, and 344 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: we'll describeing and stuff. So this should be a lot 345 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: of fun, So tune in Alantafalcons dot com. You can 346 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: find a lot of details about that on on Atlanta 347 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Falcons dot com. And what we're going to be doing. 348 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into what we potentially are going 349 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: to see or what you're hoping to see if you 350 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: start looking at training camp, give me some storylines you 351 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: think are sticking out to you shock that that probably 352 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: are sticking out in the fans' minds as well. 353 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are interested in obviously 354 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: what happens with Michael Penny jun I think a lot 355 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: of people think that's a big storyline. For me, I 356 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: don't think it's as big of a storyline as people think. 357 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: I think we saw what Michael Pinnock's was about last year. No, 358 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: it was a small sample size, but I think for 359 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: us we saw enough out of his play that gives 360 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: us confidence that this guy can get it done. And 361 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: obviously a whole season will tell that, and he's gonna 362 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: have his opportunity, and obviously three games last year he 363 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: showed some really good things. 364 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: The biggest storyline for me, I think is on the 365 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: other side of the ball. 366 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: There are a lot of new faces, you got a 367 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: new coordinator, you got a new aggressive scheme, So I 368 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: think how fast this defense comes together is a huge 369 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: storyline for me. There's a couple of position groups we're 370 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: gonna talk about here in a minute, But for me, 371 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm paying a little bit more attention to the defensive 372 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: side the ball. You look on the offensive side and 373 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: you start going through the position groups and you're like, 374 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: you feel pretty good about it. 375 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: You got a lot of guys who played a lot 376 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: of ball. 377 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: Defense, You got a lot of guys who played some 378 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: ball too, But you got a lot of new faces 379 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of new spots, and you got a 380 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: new coordinator coming in here in year one. How quickly 381 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: can they get together, because we don't have time to say, 382 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: all right, this is gonna be a two three year deal. 383 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: We're trying to do this here in this season, in 384 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: year one. So I think the biggest storyline going for me. 385 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: One thing that I'm really looking forward to is watching 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: all the different components of this defense. 387 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: How about you? 388 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that defense, certainly, based on what we 389 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: did in the draft, would be an area that obviously 390 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: was concerned for the Falcons. They wanted to address that area. 391 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Obviously not very good. You're thirty first in the league 392 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: in sacks. You went out and got a couple of 393 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: guys who can rush the passer in the first and 394 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: first round, and then you went and got a couple 395 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: of ballhawks right after that. Two guys are going to 396 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: play in the secondary alongside Jesse Bates and AJ Terrell. 397 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Only eighteen takeaways last year. We were minus six in 398 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: the giveaway takeaway ratio. Not very good against the run either. 399 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: If I look at the numbers here, we were fifteenth 400 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: versus the run. You were twenty second, twenty third in 401 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: total defense. So yes, you need to fix the pass rush, 402 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: also need to be able to stop the runs. There's 403 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: a lot of battles and things that we're going to 404 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: talk about here in a few minutes, so I would 405 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: agree with you. The expanse of the offense is another 406 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: story for me in that whychel what Michael Pennox is 407 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: going to bring the table. Like you said, we got 408 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: a little taste in those last three games, but maybe 409 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: not as much. They kind of stayed to confines of 410 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: what they've been doing the first fifteen games of the year, 411 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: first fourteen games of the year. So now all of 412 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: a sudden, with Penix's ability to get out of the pocket. 413 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about get out of the pocket 414 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: and run, which he's capable of doing if he needs 415 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: to extend plays. I'm talking about making defenses defend sideline 416 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: to sideline. Now you're no longer going to be able 417 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: to defend in a seven yard box. Now you've got 418 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be able to bootleg off 419 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: of Ajon Robinson and Tyler Algear and get out on 420 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: the perimeter and now stretch you in different ways horizontally 421 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: as well as vertically down the field. Another piece of it, 422 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to me shock is the introduction, maybe the reintroduction of 423 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: the vertical passing game. We saw some of that with 424 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan in his last year here, have not really 425 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: seen that as much over the last few years. And 426 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Pennis has an unbelievable ability from a put a guy. 427 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: And there's nobody better in a fifty to fifty ball 428 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: situation than Drake London, who's coming off a monster season. 429 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: So maybe some of those explosive plays that you don't 430 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: have to be on the field for fifteen plays, now 431 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: you're on the field for six plays and you shove 432 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: one in the end zone. I'll be interested to see 433 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: some of those kind of things tape. 434 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: And we saw some of that too. We saw his 435 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: ability to throw the football down the field. I think 436 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: there was a couple of games last year where hey, 437 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: you put a guy up to bat, it was incomplete. 438 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: Guess what next play you put him back up to 439 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: bat again. And I think that's something we'd like to see, 440 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: is pushing the ball vertically, forcing a defense to cover 441 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: the entire three and the third sideline and sideline and 442 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: make sure teams know that yes what yeah, it's going 443 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: to be some underneas stuff, but guess what, you got 444 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: to beware of the ball going over your head too. 445 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: So that's a good call. 446 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about position groups now that they're 447 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of sticking out. We know the Pinnix is a 448 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: guy that people are gonna be paying attention to. You 449 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: mentioned you're pretty relaxed with that. I think that we'll 450 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: continue to watch him progress. Obviously, we know that he's 451 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: still essentially a rookie quarterback and we'll watch that play out. 452 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Give me a position group or two that stick out 453 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: in your mind that you really are gonna hone in on, 454 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: maybe early on in camp. 455 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: One for me is the interior defensive line. I am 456 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: excited to see where this group goes. Obviously, for the 457 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: last ten years, we've seen a guy where number ninety 458 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 3: seven and Grady Jared be that guy you knew coming in. 459 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: All right, we know what this guy's about. 460 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: We know on the interior of this defensive line what 461 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna get with number ninety seven. Now, no Grady Jared, 462 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: who is that next guy to step forward and be 463 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: the kallus forward? 464 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: And we know in this league we talk a lot 465 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: about the perimeter guy. 466 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: We talk a lot about, you know, having those kind 467 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: of playmakers on the outside, which you gotta have. But 468 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: you also have to have the depth on the interior 469 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: lines of scrimmage, and I think the line of scrimmagees 470 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: matter most. And in this league, if you can stop 471 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: the run and then you can get out to the passer, 472 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: that's a big deal. You talked about adding some of 473 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: these guys in the draft, obviously, with two guys that 474 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: would rush the passer in the first round, but what 475 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: about the interior part of the the defensive line. And 476 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: we've seen it over years. Just go down the road 477 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: playing against a Vita Vea over there, Tampa. You knew 478 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: every time you step into that ball again, he was 479 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: going to be a factor in the run game in 480 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: the past game, you knew that. Can the Falcons have 481 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 3: that guy? Obviously you got on your mine. You got 482 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: Harrison TQ comeback. Ruke and Dorles is gonna be two 483 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: big guys who you're gonna ask a lot of. Can 484 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: Rouke take that next step? Is gonna be a big, 485 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: big topic of conversation. Obviously, Lake Alna is a big 486 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: part of it. But you need to have impact defensive linemen, 487 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: guys who can make a difference in ballgame. So that 488 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: part of this defense is I'm not gonna say a concern, 489 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 3: but it's something that I'm really gonna pay a close 490 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: attention to and see what what kind of issues can 491 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: they create upfront? And I think with Grady gone, there's 492 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: gonna be a couple of guys that feel like, you 493 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: know what, maybe I'm that next guy to kind of 494 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: feel that void and say, you know what, I can 495 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: be the guy that can carry us for the next 496 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: ten years. 497 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: I think we know we got it on your model. 498 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: You know, he's been around the league, he's played, he's 499 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, been one of those kind of guys the 500 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: reason why you brought him here. But then also you 501 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: talk about some of the young guys who are going 502 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: to ask to be. 503 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: Play a key role in that interior defensive line. 504 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: Now obviously on the outside that's another topic as well, 505 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: and we can easily go there. I know a lot 506 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: of people you just talked about being able to get 507 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: to the passer against sacks. That's a big deal. But 508 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: I also feel like with what we have that's gonna 509 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: be a big conversation. I can't wait to see how 510 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: these guys continue to progress as the training camp goes on. 511 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Well, you and I are in the same page because 512 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote d line, So I won't go there. 513 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I'll go to my next grip that I was going 514 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: to talk about. But defensive line. Remember old Brick brings 515 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: an attacking style of defense, meaning you're gonna pick a 516 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: gap and you're gonna shoot it. There's none of this 517 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: grabbing guys on holding and kind of throwing them off 518 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: and trying to play a stalemate at the line of scrimmage. 519 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: They're looking to penetrate and make plays in the backfield. 520 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: So what Shock is talking about is paramount that you 521 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: have guys in that interior defensive line that can penetrate 522 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: and create problems for blocking schemes. So now all of 523 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: a sudden, linebackers are running free, and maybe they are, 524 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: they're penetrating. We know we've got one of the best 525 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: into your linebackers in the league. And Kaden Ellis led 526 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: the team in tackles yes year, one hundred and fifty tackles. 527 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: He had sixteen quarterback hits. I mean, the dude was everywhere. 528 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: And you're adding a couple of guys that have similar 529 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: capabilities to this roster and to these guys. So I'll 530 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: go I'll go to the back end. I'll go to 531 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: the secondary. I think you feel really comfortable about the 532 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: All Pro Jesse Bates at safety. I think you feel 533 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: really good about aj Terrell and what he brings the 534 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: table at the corner spot. So now what happens in 535 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: maybe the other three spots? And I say three because 536 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: you've got a corner, you got another safety, and you've 537 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: got your nickelback situation. And the nickel is one that 538 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: you might have gone out and drafted a guy that 539 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: potentially ends up being your starter in Billy Bowman at nickel. 540 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Now d Alford, who's played here the last couple of 541 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: years and had some really good moments, is going to 542 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: have something to say about that. So there's gonna be 543 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: some really good competition back there. Mike Hughes returns as corner, 544 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: had a really good year last year. But you've got 545 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: some young guys that are chomping at the bit. We've 546 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: got a guy, a young guy that I think is 547 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna challenge a little bit in Kobe Bryant, a kid 548 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: out of Kansas who had thirteen career interceptions, a three 549 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: time first team All Big Twelve corner. He's gonna come 550 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: in and say, wait a minute, why can't I start 551 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: at that corner spot, so I think there's gonna be 552 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: some really good competition. And then you look at the 553 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: safety spot. Shock with with Watts returning, how about DeMarco 554 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: Hellam's a guy lost in the shuffle here. Hey, don't 555 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: forget about me. I took the job away from a 556 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: guy two years ago and then I got hurt in preseason. 557 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: Reason why Justin Simmles here for sure? 558 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it might not even have been here. DeMarco Helm's 559 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: not gotten hurt. So here's a guy that wants to 560 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: reclaim his opportunity. So the secondary some battles there as well. 561 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, some real, some real battles back there. That's gonna 562 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: be interesting too, because you just you name seven or 563 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: eight different guy that absolutely could play a part in 564 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: how this season goes on the back end. And as 565 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: we know, this is a league where teams want to 566 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: throw the football around the yard and you gotta have 567 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: guys who can hold up. 568 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: You gotta have guys who have extreme confidence. 569 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: And we know we got a lot of guys who 570 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 3: have that, but can they show it, can they do it? 571 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: Can they be a big part of what this defense 572 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: is about? And you talk about having an aggressive scheme 573 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: that Olbrick wants to play with. Those guys have to 574 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: make a hold up in man coverage. Olbrick is gonna 575 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: want to get in this guy's face and say, you 576 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: know what, we're gonna play press man coverage on the outside. 577 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: Let's hold up and let's go be those kind of guys. 578 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: Are you One thing I wanted to ask you was, 579 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: obviously we talked about some of the position groups that 580 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: we're looking forward to watching, but there's also a group 581 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: or select amount of players that feel like maybe they 582 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: have something to prove. And when you look at either 583 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: side of the ball, is there a player, is there 584 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: a couple of players, Maybe it's a position group that 585 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: you feel like they have something to prove coming into 586 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: a training camp in this season. 587 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think that certainly the easiest place for us 588 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: to point is we'll go to Kyle Pitts the typen, 589 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of people will point 590 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: to that. Everything I understand about Kyle, he's had a 591 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: really good offseason. He's chomping at the bit to get back. 592 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I think that he and Penis has spent some time 593 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: in the offseason together where there's been some bonding there. 594 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Kyle's one of those kind of guys that there were 595 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: moments last year where he had a four game stretch 596 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: where he had I don't know, twenty one receptions, three 597 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns in just a 598 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: four game stretch and then maybe got left out of 599 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: the equation a little bit, maybe because the quarterback didn't 600 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: throw it to him, maybe because the defense took him away, 601 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: or maybe is his own fault. He wasn't playing at 602 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the level he's capable playing at. But he's kind of 603 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: that guy that I think is that last piece on 604 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: the offense. You know, Bajeon Robinson's going to bring it 605 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: coming off a monster year last year, some nineteen hundred 606 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: yards in total offense. Drake London, who has surface is 607 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: one of the seven to eight best wide receivers in 608 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: the National Football League. What Darnell Mooney was able to 609 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: do just on the edge of being another thou yard receiver. 610 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: We know what al Jeer can do when he comes 611 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: in the game. Ray Ray McCleod, his contributions, he had 612 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: a career year last year. Is that third wide receiver. 613 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: But that last piece is this is this guy that 614 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: you drafted three overall about four years ago that if 615 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: he can come into his own much like he did 616 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: his rookie year, that's the one that sticks out to me. 617 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: If you're just going to find one guy that you 618 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: think could be a difference making dude, that really takes 619 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: you to a different level. We saw it. Penix finds 620 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: him right at the end of the game against Washington. 621 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: He goes down load to make a really difficult catch 622 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: and against tight coverage. Those are his capabilities. That's what 623 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: you want to see every Sunday. 624 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great call because I think that's probably 625 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: number one for the fans. I mean, as much as 626 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, we're both around the city, people always asking me, 627 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, well, what's up with Kyle? 628 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: Is Kyle still gonna be here? 629 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: It? 630 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: Can he be a difference maker? He was taking number 631 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: four overall, he had a great rookie year. What's happened? 632 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: So I think that's a big part of the conversation 633 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: is where Kyle Pitts stands within his offense and can 634 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: he get back to what everybody thought he was gonna 635 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: be when they when they drafted him. For sure, for me, 636 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: when I think about it's not even a position group. 637 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: I think it's a group of players. For me, it's 638 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: the Year two guys. The Year two guys can they 639 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: be Can they take that next step and have real 640 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: value on his team? Obviously we talked about Route maybe 641 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: gonna be one of the key callus in that interior 642 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: defensive different doorless. 643 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: We saw j D. 644 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: Bertranch step in last year played really well in some 645 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: in some key moments. We know Brigland Trice was hurt 646 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: last year. Can he come back and can he have 647 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: some value and helped us in Casey Washington is another guy, 648 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: a receiver. You talked about a bunch of guys who 649 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: already are solidified this self. But case he can have 650 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: some value. We've seen him, have you know some moments 651 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: where maybe special teams, maybe he comes in and plays 652 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: a role, maybe when a guy goes down, and can 653 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: he be a factor. I think those Year two guys, 654 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: can they really provide value in year two? Because you're 655 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 3: gonna these guys, I'm sure you got a great rookie class. 656 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: You think that's gonna come in here in that value? 657 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: Can you guys from last season? A couple of them 658 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: banged up. I heard Rooke talk maybe probably a month 659 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: ago and they asked him about his rookie season and 660 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: he goes, man, I'm not gonna lie. 661 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: There was a lot I had to learn. 662 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: The speed was different, the physicality was different, and I 663 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: had to mentally get myself wrapped up around this is different, 664 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of guys have to adapt 665 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: to it as rookies, especially playing in those strenches. 666 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's some grown men up there. 667 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: But I think if those year two guys come in 668 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: and make a huge impact and have some tremendous value 669 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: on this team and provide some really good solid additions, 670 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: I think you have a spot where thing you feel 671 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: good about those guys. So I'm looking forward to seeing 672 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: of those year two guys who can take that next step. 673 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: Can those guys be guys that you say, you know 674 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: what those were quality picks? 675 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's such a good point. Shock and 676 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: the group that needs who needs to take the biggest step. 677 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: And you just mentioned a couple of names there. I 678 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: think Ruke Rorow is a big I think he fits 679 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: what Olbrick wants to do. If you look at what 680 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: he did at Clemson and knifing through and creating problems 681 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: with his ability his quickness and his size. A rower 682 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: row is one of those guys that stands up as 683 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: well as Dorless. I think you're dead on there. What 684 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: are you hoping to see from the twenty twenty five 685 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: draft class? What are we hoping to get there? I 686 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: mentioned some of the number shock thirty one sacks. You're 687 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: thirty first in the league. Obviously, that's one of those 688 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: areas that you'd hope to address. You had a couple 689 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: of guys there, and yet eighteen takeaways last year, eighteen 690 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: takeaways was kind of in the middle of the pack 691 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: as far as takeaways go, but you were minus six 692 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: in the giveaway takeaway ratio. I think only one team 693 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: made the playoffs with a minus giveaway takeaway and that 694 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: was the Tampa Bay Bucks got in. I think they 695 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: were minus two. So tell me about what you expect 696 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: out of the the draft clash. What are we hoping 697 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: we get out of that? 698 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: I think the number one thing you get from this 699 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: draft class's tons of experience. I think you got guys 700 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: who are gonna come in here and be ready for 701 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: the moment. And I don't think playing the National Football 702 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: League will be too big for these guys. And a 703 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: lot of them talked about having, you know, even with 704 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: all the experience of what they played, having somewhat of 705 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: chips on the shoulder about being able to perform at 706 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: this next level you're talking about. Obviously, Jaylen Walker and 707 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: James Pearce brought in here for one reason, and they 708 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: talked about it when they first got drafted. Is I 709 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: know what the expectations were when we got here. We 710 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: were drafted to go get the quarterback. You got two 711 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: guys in the back end and Billy Bowen and Xavier Watou. 712 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, a key stat is takeaways. Oh they 713 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: did that in college with these they did that. They 714 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: were top of the country over their career in doing that. 715 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: So you're talking about guys who are used to getting 716 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: the ball in their hands. So I'm excited to see 717 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: how much of an addition, how much of an impact 718 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: these guys can have on this defense. And we talked 719 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: so much about where this defense is and what obrig 720 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: wants to do, and the word we both use is aggressive. 721 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: I think all four of those guys you will put 722 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: in an aggressive category, who want to go get the football, 723 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: who want to get after the quarterback, who want to 724 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: be impact players who want to change the game. And 725 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: for me, when I look at this twenty twenty five 726 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: draft class and when the season's over, I want to 727 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: know how many impact plays these guys had. 728 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: And for a lot of. 729 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: People, you want to say, oh, well, what's a real 730 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: impact play? Something that changes dynamic of a game, and 731 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: whether it's one game, three games, four games, you do 732 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: something in those games that changes something for your ball club. 733 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: It changes field position, it gives you the ball back 734 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: to your offense, it does something that you say, what, 735 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: that's why we drafted that guy. And I think there's 736 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: going to be instance this season where we see all 737 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: four of those guys have those kind of impacts throughout 738 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: the season, and anything other than that, it's cherry on top. 739 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see how integral these guys will 740 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: be a part of this defense. You know, whether you 741 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: know the snap count is you know, fifty percent, whether 742 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: it's forty percent or maybe some of these guys you 743 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: can ask a lot from. And I think those two 744 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: pass rushers, you're gonna ask those guys to play a 745 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: key role this season. But who knows what happens on 746 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: the back end. It's gonna be fun to see what 747 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: these guys end up. 748 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: The two teams that went to the Super Bowl, the 749 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs in the Philadelphia Eagles. Last year, Kansas 750 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: City had thirty nine sacks, which was eighteenth in the league. 751 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people feel like, okay, the sacks or 752 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: whether they gotta dictate getting there. They were plus six 753 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: in the giveaway takeaway. Okay. The Philadelphia Eagles who won 754 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and got after Patrick Mahomes, they had 755 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: forty one sacks. They were thirteenth in the league in sacks, 756 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: even though we talked about how how that Philadelphia Eagle 757 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: defense swarmed to get out of both Yeah, legue thirteenth 758 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: in the league, but they were plus eleven in the 759 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: giveaway takeaway. So it goes hand in hand. Pressure on 760 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback, bad throws, My guys are seeking and fighting. 761 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: What I put down on my piece here is is 762 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: I talked about, you know, I don't know if you've 763 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: ever seen movies or maybe a documentary of watching piranhas 764 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: in the water, but if you throw a piece of 765 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: meat in the water, I called it feeding fronds the 766 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and the ball. That's what we're hoping for and 767 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: shot kind of summarize that with what he was talking 768 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: about there. Yeah, all right, we prepare for the twenty 769 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: twenty five season. I think we talked about the aspects 770 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: of the team that need to improve over training camp. 771 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: You talked about D line performance versus the run and 772 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: the pass. What do you need to see a shock 773 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: in camp that gives you a feeling that this team 774 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: is going to be better than they were a year ago, 775 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: or progressing to the regular season with Tampa Bay sitting 776 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: there in week one, What do you need to see 777 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: in camp that makes you feel good about what you're doing, 778 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: what you're seeing. 779 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: I think where I'm going with this, a lot of 780 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: people won't be able to kind of put their hands 781 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: on it and notice it. But I think for guys 782 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: like us who watch it differently, and maybe there are 783 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: a lot of fans out here who watch it in 784 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 3: the same facet, But for me, it's. 785 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: A daily It's a daily. 786 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: Act of being consistent, competitive, but also being accountable, and 787 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: I think that bodes well for as you head to 788 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: the season. If you're consistent every day in how you 789 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: go out and prepare it, you're accountable with your teammates 790 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: on how you practice and how you get after people 791 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 3: and you're super highly competitive. Once you get to the game, 792 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: all that stuff comes together and it makes for really 793 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: good football. I believe if the guy next to you, you 794 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: know you're keeping him accountable, he's keeping you accountable. You 795 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: guys have been through the battles and the wars in 796 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: training camp, and you guys have been consistently doing it. 797 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: When you get in the game, it becomes second nature 798 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: to you. And for me, I want to see that 799 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: on a daily basis. How consistent will the offense be 800 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: when it comes to a red zoneduction when they're going 801 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: against the defense. 802 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: How competitive will they be. 803 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: When they'll O and D line get together and they're 804 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: going on one on one and they're competing in fighting. 805 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: How accountable will Jesse Bates be, which we know he 806 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: will be with some of the young guys and bringing 807 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: those guys along and they make a mistake, willly be 808 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: on their tail about some stuff. I think all those 809 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: things go hand in hand with what makes a really 810 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: good ball club. And once you get to that first 811 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: game and you can see that stuff come out during 812 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 3: the ballgame. So for me, can I see that daily? 813 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: Can I see these guys and I know this. Guys 814 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: are gonna compete, you know it. But can it be 815 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: something on a consistent and daily basis of going out 816 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: and doing it every day that shows you, all right, 817 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: this team has some and I think we've been a 818 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: part of our show. We've been a part of teams 819 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: where you feel like, I trust that guy. I know 820 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: when that guy steps on the field with me, I 821 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 3: know that guy's gonna be he's gonna go twelve yards 822 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: and he's gonna come flat and he's gonna come to 823 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: the sideline. You trust that guy because guess what, in practice, 824 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: he was consistent with it. We were accountable with both 825 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: our stamps were accountable with going to be and you 826 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: knew once you got in the game, regardless of what 827 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: that corny did, Guess what, I can let this thing 828 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: go and feel good about it. And I think that's 829 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 3: a big part of going into you know, the season, 830 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: is how countable are you with your teammates and can 831 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: that transfer into the game? 832 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: Man, such a such a big word and a and 833 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: a cool word that you'ck just use. There is trust. 834 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: It happens in the offensive line. It happens from the 835 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: second level, from the first level of the defensive line 836 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: to the second level in linebackers talking and what they're 837 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be. The communication in the back end, trusting 838 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: one another that you're going to do what you're supposed 839 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: to do, or you recognize what's going on. If you don't, 840 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: is somebody telling you what's going on? The communication that happens. 841 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: Trust a monster word. When you start talking about putting 842 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: eleven guys on the field that are going to play together, 843 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: you got to be able to trust one another, got 844 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: to be able to lean on that about you, well, 845 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 1: I wrote I wrote down something very similar said, both 846 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: sides win the day in training camp. So that's a 847 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: daily deal where Okay, the offense had their day, obviously 848 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: the defense rallies. It comes back and maybe they get 849 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: the afternoon if they've got a two today going on, 850 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: or they get that next morning, and it creates that 851 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: competition that you know that week in and week out, 852 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: day in and day out, you're going to compete, and 853 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: when you get in games on Sunday that that that 854 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: mentality comes out. They keep talking about Mamba mentality around here. 855 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: You know Kobe paying homage to Kobe Kobe Bryant, how 856 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: he played the game like it was his last game 857 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: every time he played. That's what they're trying to perpetuate here. 858 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: Shut Archa, let me let me throw one at you. 859 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: It's obviously, uh, we're off script. 860 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Here with this question, but I think it bowls well 861 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: because we haven't mentioned it yet, and I think the 862 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: guy to him does as good as anybody. 863 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: We both know him really well. 864 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: Rahie Morris, the head coach coming into a second year, 865 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: obviously there were some up and downs last year. 866 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: What do you want to see from. 867 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 3: Raw heading into his second training camp of when you 868 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: think about getting this team Brady and prepare, is there 869 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: things that you feel like, oh, maybe we see a 870 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: different Raw in this situation, or you think this is 871 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 3: a guy to just learn from the things that happen 872 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: in year one and he's gonna take off in year 873 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: two and get this team ready to go. 874 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that what you said there the latter part. 875 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: I think that you hope that every time you go 876 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: out you're a little bit better than you were before. 877 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: I remember a coach telling me early on when I 878 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: first started playing this game, you're never the same person 879 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: when you take the when you leave the field after practicing, 880 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: you either are better or you're worse. You never stay 881 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: the same because there's too much information, there's too many reps, 882 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: there's too many opportunities to improve and learn. More often 883 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: than not, if you're paying attention doing mental reps, you're 884 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: getting the physical reps, you're gonna be just a little 885 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: bit better. Your players say it all the time. I 886 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: want to be one percent better after practice than I 887 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: was today. I would think that based on the way 888 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: raw works, the way Raheem works in his study, in 889 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: turning over every rock as to what he can do 890 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: to be better. That's what he spent the whole offseason doing. 891 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: Last year was not what they were hoping for. They 892 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: got up your six and three. Things look good, You're 893 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: a couple of games ahead of Tampa, and then the 894 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 1: wheels started to get a little wobbly and they fell off. 895 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: And why did that happen? I guarantee you they went 896 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: back and evaluated all those decisions they made in game plays, 897 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: called all those kind of things. And so I'm expecting 898 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: for him to be better just because I know his 899 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: work ethic. I know Zach Robinson's work ethic. We've been 900 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: around Jeff Ulbrick before Marquise Williams, those guys and that staff. 901 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm expecting, Shock, So I think that 902 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: I think we're all set. 903 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: Ye. 904 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: That's it for today. We'll be back on Tuesday to 905 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: recap the first weekend of training camp as well as 906 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: working rack back with us Derek Brackley. We'll be back 907 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: with us on the podcast the meantime. Make sure you 908 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: check out our live broadcast this Saturday on YouTube. It'll 909 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: be me and Taylor Bismore along with some special guests, 910 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: so tune in. Shock made drop by who knows, So 911 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: tune in and hang out with this and watch practice. 912 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: Always remember to like, subscribe and review at Spotify, iTunes, 913 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons dot com and YouTube and we'll see you 914 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: next time. Make sure that you're with us. It's really 915 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: good to be with YouTube. Brother. It's football season. 916 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 2: We're back