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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge podcast presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett

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Speaker 1: Downing and I'm joined by Clifton Brown, who is down

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Speaker 1: in Florida, Sunny Florida at the annual NFL Owners meetings.

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Speaker 1: He just wrapped up the Coach's Breakfast where he sat

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Speaker 1: down with head coach John Harball for about a half

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Speaker 1: hour along with a number of other reporters, and heard

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Speaker 1: from Harbes on a bunch of topics related to this

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Speaker 1: team over the course of the off season. So we

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Speaker 1: want to break down what we had to hear from

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Speaker 1: Coach Harbaugh today and also what Cliff is seeing down

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Speaker 1: there at these owners meetings. Have you have you gotten

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Speaker 1: you know, wind and dying down there, Cliff? You know,

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Speaker 1: I know it's pretty fancy. So have you been able

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Speaker 1: to enjoy that at all?

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Speaker 2: Not yet, Garret.

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Speaker 3: They have the big reception tonight, which is always really

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Speaker 3: nice where okay, people walking around with you know, lobsters

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Speaker 3: and mistakes and yeah, everybody kind of just enjoying the

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Speaker 3: spectacular scene to be down here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that part will be nice tonight.

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Speaker 3: But just got in late last night and was interesting

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Speaker 3: to hear from John Harball early this morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's dive into that conversation with coach Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and the things that he had to point out. I

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Speaker 1: think he covered a lot of ground, and he talked

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Speaker 1: with reporters for about a half hour today, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the conversation, and we've talked about this a

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Speaker 1: is the offensive line, and that's where the conversation started

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Speaker 1: during his media session today. And I would say that

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Speaker 1: probably dominated that the number of questions that he got

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Speaker 1: when you look at it in totality. So the thing

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Speaker 1: that took out to me and related in relation to

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Speaker 1: the offensive line is what he said right off the

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Speaker 1: that line, and he said he wants it to be

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Speaker 1: better than it was last year. So I know the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are they have to replace three of the five

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Speaker 1: starters from last year, but they are looking at this

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Speaker 1: as a improvement opportunity. Not necessarily we just have to

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Speaker 1: get back to that level last year because we lost

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Speaker 1: these people. They actually think that going with some young players,

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Speaker 1: bring in free agents, addressing it in the draft, they're

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Speaker 1: going to have an opportunity to make this line better

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Speaker 1: than it was last season.

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's the way John Harball, Eric Tacosta, Stevens

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Speaker 3: Adehole organization thinks getting better no matter who comes and

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Speaker 3: who goes. So you know, for that to happen, if

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Speaker 3: you thought about you started with Ronnie Stanley. You know,

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Speaker 3: if he's healthier than he has been the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years, and at least he's starting the off season

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Speaker 3: relatively healthy, we know what Ronnie Stanley can be when

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Speaker 3: he is healthy.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to work to get back to that.

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Speaker 3: He knows it, He's talked about doing it, and health

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Speaker 3: has been the main thing. So if you have Ronnie

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Speaker 3: Stanley close to being the All Pro that he has

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Speaker 3: been in the past, then you also have him plus

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Speaker 3: and Tyler Linnebaum. Those are two really good pieces to

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Speaker 3: of young players and an offensive line that it's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be one of the best offensive line draft classes

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Speaker 3: in say twenty years. I think the Ravens will add

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Speaker 3: at least one or two players on the line from

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Speaker 3: that draft. There's a chance that things can come together

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Speaker 3: and maybe we'll add some more veterans down the road.

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Speaker 3: So it's the most important thing on the Ravens list

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Speaker 3: this offseason. Offensive line. If they improve it or if

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Speaker 3: it's a good offensive line with Lamar Jackson and Derrick

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the point on Ronnie Stanley was, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting. Obviously, the Ravens reportedly went through a

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Speaker 1: big contractor restructure with him, and he took a pretty

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Speaker 1: sizeable pay cut and adjusted his contract. But John Harball

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Speaker 1: so the Ravens, you know, while they went through that

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Speaker 1: and that's a high bar. But the Ravens, you know,

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Speaker 1: they've invested a lot in him, starting with when he

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Speaker 1: And so the hope is that he can get back

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Speaker 1: get paid big time money, a lot of draft resources obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, in some ways, in a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: betting on Ronnie to get back to that point, and

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Speaker 1: thought that was encouraging to hear from Harball, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other tackle spot, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens traded Morgan Moses to the Jets, and and.

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Speaker 4: Harball addressed that trade because.

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Speaker 1: You look at it and you're like, wait, Morgan was

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Speaker 1: And he kind of expounded upon that and explained it

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he made it clear that your finances were

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Speaker 3: the cap, that that deal did free up some cap room,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, Morgan Morgan's a good player for all the

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Speaker 3: reason you just mentioned. So now that's an opportunity for,

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Speaker 2: We know there's going to be a new right tackle

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Speaker 3: was I think one point two John Harbaugh mentioned when

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Speaker 3: he was talking was that he mentioned Joe Delas Sanders,

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Speaker 3: a long time offensive line coach of the Ravens. What

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Speaker 3: a great job he does developing offensive line and helping

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Speaker 3: key again this offseason with so many young players looking

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Speaker 2: That Joe D's a type of coach you.

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Speaker 3: Can really get the most out of those type players

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Speaker 2: Whether you a young player or veteran player.

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Speaker 3: You talked to any offensive lineman, they all, without prompting,

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Speaker 3: coach We've talked about a lot of coaches who have

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Speaker 2: That will be I think that is a key plus

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just look at the track record Ben

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Speaker 1: Even a player like Bradley Boseman, he ends up you know,

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Speaker 1: What happens in the draft, but as it stands right now,

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Speaker 1: And there's other young players at other spots as well.

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Speaker 1: He talked about Andrew Voorhees, who is who's good to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, last week the Ravens went and they signed

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Speaker 1: listened to the podcast, Cliff, he mentioned that that this move,

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Speaker 3: He's not on the decline. He's not too old, he's

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Speaker 1: that goes with Malik and how he develops. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be competing for a spot

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Speaker 1: on the team and that'll play out over the course

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Speaker 1: of the summer and of course in training camp in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. So we'll take a quick break when we

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Speaker 1: come back we'll take a look at some of the

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Speaker 1: other positions and big topics the coach Harbaugh mentioned, including

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Speaker 1: the pass rushers. I know there's a lot of interest

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Speaker 1: All right, so Cliff, uh, you know, quickly on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side the receiver conversation, the Ravens expect Zay Flowers

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Speaker 1: and Rashad Bateman to really take over that that role

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Speaker 1: that room. You know, Zay was the number one last

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Speaker 1: year and I think he's going to continue to be that.

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Speaker 1: But the Ravens expect big things from Bateman this year,

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Speaker 1: and so we'll see how he continues to develop. But

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Speaker 1: you know, they're they they're betting on him. He's going

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Speaker 1: into his fourth season and they've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: hope in him. And he also talked about Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: Junior leaving what went into that? What was your takeaway

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Speaker 1: on the whole receiver conversation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean his comments on Odell coach Aarvo's

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Speaker 3: basically yeah, you know, he loved O'Dell and still loved him.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it certainly feels like finances played a role

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Speaker 3: in that as well. And so O'Dell not here anymore.

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Speaker 3: We haven't mentioned Nelson Aguilar to see it again. I

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Speaker 3: thought he played well for the Ravens last year and

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Speaker 3: I think that he it's good to have him back

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Speaker 3: in that room. But yeah, I definitely feel like the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are going to add at least one more receiver

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Speaker 3: as when we report to them, you know, talking to

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Speaker 3: several veteran wide receivers already this offseason, one of those.

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Speaker 2: Guys may be signed.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, in the draft, that's definitely again going

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Speaker 3: to be a position that they're gonna keep a close

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Speaker 3: eye on. And I feel that at some point in

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Speaker 3: the draft they will bring in.

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Speaker 2: A wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: And I thought it was interesting too the coach, Arball

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Speaker 3: said that he and Lamar have had some conversations about

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Speaker 3: some wide receivers in the draft and that they were

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Speaker 3: kind of in lockstep about what they've seen so far.

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Speaker 3: He didn't reveal any name of guys they they like,

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Speaker 3: but again, as part of you know, Lamar being a

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Speaker 3: part of how this offense is going to move forward,

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Speaker 3: he see he's looking for other targets that he wants

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Speaker 3: to throw to who could be in this draft. The

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Speaker 3: Ravens are thinking the same way. So, yeah, Bateman is

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Speaker 3: definitely a key to year, no question, the first round pick.

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Speaker 3: We all know the Ravens have always loved this talent.

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Speaker 3: We know that, you know, health has been the biggest

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Speaker 3: challenge he's had in his career. So starting an off

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Speaker 3: season healthy is big for Babman. I think that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this year, hopefully he can just get through, you know,

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Speaker 3: training camp, healthy.

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Speaker 2: And ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Because if he's healthy, I think the experience that he

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Speaker 3: got last year being in that wide receiver room around

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Speaker 3: you know, a vet like Odell and Agalar, was really

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Speaker 3: beneficial for him. And I think he's embracing the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to have a bigger role in the offense.

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Speaker 2: That's something that he's always wanted.

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Speaker 3: And when he first got here, he wasn't healthy enough

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Speaker 3: to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: This time, hopefully he will be.

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Speaker 3: So the room isn't complete, but no matter how it

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Speaker 3: shakes out, Yes, Bateman, I think is going to be

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Speaker 3: a huge part of whether this this wide receiver room

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Speaker 3: next year reaches the potential that Ravens wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. And you know the Odell thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought again he pointed to the financial piece of it,

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Speaker 1: and it was, you know, Odell made a big, big

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Speaker 1: chunk of money last year, reportedly fifteen million dollars, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, the Ravens don't have that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what kind of contract he's looking for. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it would necessarily be at that value, but even

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Speaker 1: if it's, even if it's less than that, they probably

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Speaker 1: weren't able to fit that kind of figure under the cap,

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Speaker 1: so I think at a vacuum, yeah, it would have

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Speaker 1: been great to bring him back. And you know, he

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Speaker 1: was he was second on the team and receiving yards

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Speaker 1: and receptions, and so the Ravens are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: replace that, and I think a lot of that's going

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Speaker 1: to fall on Bateman's shoulders. But you know, Odell's already

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Speaker 1: reportedly been in the mix on some other other teams

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Speaker 1: and took a visit to Miami, and so we'll see

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Speaker 1: where he ultimately ends up on what that deal looks

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Speaker 1: like for him, you know. And then for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned some reported visits and interests. They were reportedly

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Speaker 1: interested in Michael Gallup also had Josh Reynolds in for

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Speaker 1: a visit. So they're in that market, but at a

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Speaker 1: price tag lower than what that lower than what O'Dell

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Speaker 1: got last year. And so I agree, I think the

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Speaker 1: Ravens will still sign somebody. I don't think they're done

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Speaker 1: adding to that room, but I don't. But but I

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Speaker 1: think we're talking about assigning more in the range of

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Speaker 1: what Nelson Aguilar got last year and this year. I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of the price tag that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about at the receiver position, right.

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Speaker 3: No question, And yeah, I mean just seeing Odell, I

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Speaker 3: had to lab you know, I saw the visits reported

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Speaker 3: visit of Miami. Yeah, I can picture Odell in Southeast

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Speaker 3: I mean I had no problem.

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Speaker 2: I had no problem.

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, I mean if that happens playing with

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Speaker 3: you know, guys like you know, Waddle and the Tita,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think that could be a good

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Speaker 3: spot for him. So yeah, I do think it was

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Speaker 3: a good marriage last year Dell on the Ravens, they

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Speaker 3: they're partying as friends. But yes, moving forward with the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you that I think a vet, you know,

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Speaker 3: more on the algore type, salary structure, range will come.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, if they can hit on a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: in this year's draft. Doesn't have to be a guy

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Speaker 3: you know who makes eighty catches, but a guy who

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Speaker 3: just adds a piece to the offense, that would Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: It is inconceivable that the wide receiver room could be

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Speaker 3: better than it was last year if you have a

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Speaker 3: healthy bateman, a VET who comes in and makes a contribution,

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Speaker 3: and a wide receiver, a rookie wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Gets in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be a room that's not only better

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Speaker 3: next season, but moving forward that is younger and better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: So the other big free agency question really is still

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Speaker 1: kind of hanging over this team is at pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about Jadeveon Clowney and Calvin Noy. Clowny's

580
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Speaker 1: reportedly taking interest taking visits l where Carolina. The Jets

581
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Speaker 1: will see where he ends up. But what what What

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh said is that they have continued to have

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Speaker 1: conversations with those two players. The Ravens are still in

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Speaker 1: contact with them. Kyle Vanoy also tweeted over the weekend

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Speaker 1: that he has talked with Eric Tacosta about a potential return,

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Speaker 1: So Harbaugh said, it would be great to get you know,

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Speaker 1: at least one of them, maybe both of them back.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, based on the salary that those

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Speaker 1: guys will likely command after really good seasons, it's probably

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Speaker 1: in either or proposition, and you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: where that will ultimately land. I also, you know, it

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Speaker 1: felt like going into the process that those guys wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be in a hurry. They signed late last year, but

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Speaker 1: all sudden clown. He's now taken visits here in March,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe that that timetable is moved up a

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Speaker 1: little bit, that they could get something done earlier than expected.

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Speaker 1: And I think it would be great if you're able

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Speaker 1: to bring one of those guys back. I think you

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Speaker 1: know right now, you probably have the salary to make

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Speaker 1: it not too much more. It's still gonna be relatively tight,

601
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Speaker 1: but I think if you can find a way to

602
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Speaker 1: keep one of them, you would. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they have a preference on which one that would be,

604
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Speaker 1: but the door is certainly not closed on either of

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Speaker 1: those guys coming back, and the Ravens are maintaining contact

606
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Speaker 1: with them. And that was what I took away from

607
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: hearing from harves On that oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, I mean.

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Speaker 3: They've it was like both of those players, and why

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Speaker 3: wouldn't they were what they contributed last year, this thing

611
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Speaker 3: of what talking about eighteen and a half sacks between

612
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Speaker 3: both of them, I mean, and great in the locker

613
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: room as well, and the experiences they brought helped the

614
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Speaker 3: entire team and that outside linebacker room. I agree with you,

615
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Speaker 3: I don't see how it would be both guys coming back,

616
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Speaker 3: but to get either back would be a plus, and

617
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Speaker 3: they've earned the right to look around. They have interests

618
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Speaker 3: from other teams based on how they played last year.

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Speaker 3: We know Van Noora. I think really he really had

620
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Speaker 3: a chip on his shoulder. I thought last year thinking that,

621
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Speaker 3: you know, he couldn't believe the season was starting and

622
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Speaker 3: he was on the count knowing that he was a

623
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Speaker 3: better player than a lot of guys he was looking

624
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Speaker 3: at on his big screen. So by the time he

625
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Speaker 3: got here to Baltimore, he was stoked and he played

626
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Speaker 3: like it. Clowney always tremendous talent, you know, a former

627
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: number one overall pick. I mean, he's a unique player

628
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Speaker 3: and he loved playing here. I do think that is

629
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Speaker 3: one thing that could help the raven with getting one

630
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Speaker 3: of these two guys back, if they both.

631
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Speaker 2: Loved playing with the Rake.

632
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Speaker 3: He would say that over and over again without prompting,

633
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Speaker 3: and it was true. So if there's a you know,

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Speaker 3: tipping point of they're trying to tide between somewhere else

635
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Speaker 3: in the Ravens, if the money's close or the same,

636
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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens win. So it's kind of on

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Speaker 3: their time table because they have interests and they don't

638
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: have to make a quick decision, but I do. My

639
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: money would be on one of them coming back, which

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Speaker 3: one I think would be either, But I feel like

641
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: the Ravens won't lose both.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything.

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Speaker 3: I just just have a gut feeling that knowing how

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00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: much those two guys like to play here and knowing

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00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: that this team as an opportunity to do something special,

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: that weighs in the way Ravens favor of getting one

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Speaker 3: of them back.

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Speaker 2: But we'll just have to wait and see. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other point that Harball made was about David Ajaba,

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Speaker 1: who he expects to be healthy.

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Speaker 4: You know, he a Jaba.

652
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Speaker 1: Was came back last year from the Achilles and there

653
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Speaker 1: was all of this excitement and then he missed time

654
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Speaker 1: and ended up having knee surgery and you know, just

655
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: a really disappointing year for him on the injury front.

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Speaker 1: But there's still optimism around him, and the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: not like moving on from David Ajaba. There's firmly a

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Speaker 1: belief that this is a player who can be a

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Speaker 1: really important player for this team. John Harper said that

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Speaker 1: he thinks you could have a breakout season and so

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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of hope that with David Ajabo

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Speaker 1: and a dafe Oway that those two guys.

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Speaker 4: Will really be drivers of the past Rush.

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Speaker 1: Even if you bring back a Clowney that you're still

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Speaker 1: going to get a huge increase in production from from

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Speaker 1: David Ajabo. And there's another level to adafe Oway as well,

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Speaker 1: really big seasons for both of those guys, you know

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Speaker 1: the Way going into his fourth season, a Java going

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Speaker 1: into his third, but really hasn't been on the field

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Speaker 1: much at all.

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Speaker 4: So there's there's a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Belief in them, and also you know, there's pressure on

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Speaker 1: them to have big seasons in critical years, and the

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Speaker 1: Ravens have, you know, confidence that they can kind of

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Speaker 1: be the leaders of the past Rush, the drivers of that,

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Speaker 1: and they can put up some big productions. So I

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Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting point, like, don't think that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are are done with a job.

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Speaker 4: Far from it.

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Speaker 1: There is really excitement around him, the progress that he's made,

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Speaker 1: the work that he's put in behind the scenes, the

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Speaker 1: player that he is, person that he is, and they

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Speaker 1: really think that a Javo could could have a big

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Speaker 1: season this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we know with a Java one. He has

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Speaker 3: tremendous talents. Even with the Pro day injury. Had there

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Speaker 3: was a kid, he was the second round pick. But

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Speaker 3: I Reanon clearly would have been a first round picked

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Speaker 3: by someone had an injury that I happened. Uh Two,

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Speaker 3: we know, you know, he got a late start in football,

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Speaker 3: so he's got tremendous upside as well as talent. Since

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Speaker 3: he's been here, he's been a tremendously hard worker. So

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Speaker 3: they know that about him. That's not going to change.

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Speaker 3: And we know that he's been really unfortunate when it's

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Speaker 3: come to injury injury, so you know, he's got to

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Speaker 3: stay healthy obviously for his potential to start to come

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Speaker 3: in fruition that you hope happens for him. If that does,

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Speaker 3: then yet there's a lot of reasons to think that

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Speaker 3: he could become, you know, one of the key players

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Speaker 3: on the defenses as he gains experience. So you know,

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Speaker 3: just just like with Bateman, I mean, the one thing,

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Speaker 3: the first thing is can they stay on the field

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Speaker 3: staged practices. You hope you can see that that happens.

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Speaker 3: If that happens with a Jabo, I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of the other things will take care of themselves, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh Way definitely made Stride's last season.

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Speaker 2: I think he has a stronger foundation.

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Speaker 3: And another coach just talking I mentioned jo d early,

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Speaker 3: which I mentioned, you know, is Chuck Smith. What he

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Speaker 3: did with the pass rushers last year, I think was

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Speaker 3: a tremendous asset to the Ravens staff. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's an advantage that Ojabo and o Way will have

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Speaker 3: again this year. Working with a coach like that, along

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Speaker 3: with the other vets in that room, will help accelerate

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Speaker 3: their development. If again, if Ojabo can stay healthy, he's

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Speaker 3: got the right people working with him and the right

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Speaker 3: attitude to make the leap of the Ravens hope that

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Speaker 3: he does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So it was you know, it was good to

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Speaker 1: hear from from them and from coach Charbotson, and I

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Speaker 1: think uh kind of provided a little bit more clarity

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Speaker 1: of the direction that the way Ravens want to go

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Some moves that still need to be made

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Speaker 1: and that are that are kind of being worked on

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I thought today was you know, revealing

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Speaker 1: in that regard. So I know it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: busy time down there at the owners meetings, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a chance to also sit down with Ravens President

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Speaker 1: Sashi Brown this week along with some other reporters, so

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Speaker 1: you know, be curious to see what comes out.

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Speaker 4: Of that uh as well.

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Speaker 1: So as always, you can email us at the lounge

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Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net let us know what

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Speaker 1: questions you have. Cliff is going to continue to cover

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Speaker 1: everything from the owners meetings were We appreciate you listening.

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Speaker 4: Also, if you want to listen.

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