1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: This is Talking Cowboys, springing live from. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys World. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Head Course at the Star in Frisco. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 4: Touchdown six SEGMENTUS Dot Tixie any Content Touchdown. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: It's a schedule edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 4: Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: and the s WBC studios. 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Welcome and everybody. 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 4: We've got Tommy Yarish, We've got Josh Rodriguez with Chris Beam. 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: In the back of Kyle Yeomans. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: The schedule is out of course, it happens right after 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: we get off the air and always us, we're also 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: going to talk some OTAs, which, by the way, guess 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: when that happens, Tommy today, Right after what this Talking 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: Cowboys OTAs continues and we get our first look at 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five Dallas Cowboys team. 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Glad you're with us, though, as we'll talk through at 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: the best. 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: We know how, and then we'll wrap it up again 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: next week going into Mini camp, which starts right after 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: what josh OTAs talking Cowboys. 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, next week Tuesday. So you said I wasn't 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: being indigenous. 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: That's okay, No, no, no, to be fair, don't think 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 5: of this as a late show, you know what I mean. 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 5: It's not late, it's not after everything. It's it's a recap. Yeah, 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: we're just recapping it. We're just hanging back, we're chilling. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, we know, you know, the schedule currently breaking. 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: Any news on this show not until the season starts, 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: but then we get after it. 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: We break news during the season, for sure. We do 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 5: quite a bit actually, because that's when it's going down. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right at nine o'clock. 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: Isaiah's out of town. 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: He'll be out the next couple weeks, and then Patrick 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: should be back next week. So looking forward to getting 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: everybody back. I do want to give a little bit 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: of credit here though, before we get things underway and 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: start talking about the twenty twenty five Cowboys schedule, I 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: want to give some props to Tommy Yarish, who yesterday 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: called the first ever girls Flag Football Championship held here 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: at the Star in Frisco, Arlington. Martin takes home the 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: Crown just down the street from AT and T Stadium 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 4: is where they are. They get to celebrate with state 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: championship aspirations. But Tommy Yarsh, Nicole Hutcheson, we're on the 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: call for those games. 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: He did a great job. Miche well, thanks man, I 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Yeah, Nicole was awesome, and the whole production 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: team was great and really tip of the captain. Danny 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: McCrae has been kind of the spearhead of pushing girls 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: flag football to the forefront. This is for their first 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: time doing this thing. He did an unbelievable job and 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: the fact that I just got to be a part 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: of it was really fun and so tip of the 60 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: cap to Danny and now hoping that the UIL makes 61 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: this a sanctioned sport so that girls all around the 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: state of Texas can participate and continue to grow the 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: game and make it really fun. 64 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: It was a really cool event. There were so many 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: different teams represented. They played all day yesterday and leading 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: up into the championship and then and I know there 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: was another event in Houston, Texans and may have been 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: making a push for the Austin area and in the 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 4: Houston area, and then the Cowboys have Dallas covered up here, 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: and so it's really a statewide NFL push to continue 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: giving high school aged girls the opportunity to possibly earn 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: scholarships in college. Now, it really is a cool thing 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: going on. If you have any questions on that or 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: want to learn more, go to NFL dot com. 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: I think it's slash backslash flag or something. 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: I think there's also on the Cowboys side too. I 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: think it's an absolute lowboys dot com backslash girls flag. 78 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: Girls flag. That's the that's the site. And again, big 79 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 5: shouts to Danny McCrae for putting it together. And really 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: like anytime you hear that the girls flag football in 81 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 5: this building, Dann McRae has touched it. I'm saying like 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 5: he's he's had a part in it, and even looking 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: at the uniforms like that, that's so awesome that they 84 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: were able to do that, and so many schools involved 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: as well, I mean participating in schools like it's just 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: a laundry list. 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Of fifty four schools. 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: That's amazing. That's amazing. 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: The first year, that's incredible. 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: So you get credit. 91 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: Team and Charlotte Jones and the Jeene and Jerry Jones 92 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: Foundation doing a great job setting all that up, so 93 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: a lot of positives to go around for Girls Flight. 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: For one, it's only the. 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: Beginning, only the beginning, just like the beginning of us 96 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: knowing what the Cowboys schedule looks like. It was released 97 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: last week Wednesdays. The Cowboys pro right here. 98 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: Week one to week ten is kind of what a 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: normal NFL schedule is going to look like. You kind 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: of go with the normal divisional games mixed in with 102 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: a really tough one here and there, a couple of 103 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: tough road games there. You start, of course with the Eagles, 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: which we talked about last week, and then you got 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: the Giants at home, go on the road against Chicago, 106 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: back home against the Packers. That'll be a fun one 107 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: at the end of September. Then you go on the 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: road against the Jets following that. Then you get into 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: a couple of road games against the Panthers and the Broncos, Commanders, 110 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: Cardinals at home before the bye. 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Week in week ten. 112 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: The reason I set it up that way, though, is 113 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: because that's a normal NFL schedule. 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: A couple of tough ones, couple road. 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: Games, couple home games. 116 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: Sounds like a monster truck commercials. Yeah, Sunday Sunday, Sunday Sunday. 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: So it keeps going. 118 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: But the back half of the schedule, Joe Oo, might 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: be the toughest half of any schedule of all time. 120 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: It's the only time that an NFL team has ever 121 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: ever played eleven win teams in six straight games in history, 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: in history of all time, of all time, they have. 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: They have six straight games against teams that won eleven 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: games or more last year, starting with Philadelphia in Week twelve. 125 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: It goes Philadelphia, Kansas City, Detroit, Minnesota, Los Angeles. 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: Washington, Bang Bang Bang bang bang, And. 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: It's four straight games including Philadelphia, Kansas City, Detroit, and 128 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: Minnesota of team that won fourteen games or more the 129 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 4: year before. 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: Now, to make matters worse, two of those are on 131 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: short weeks too. Oh yeah, you play the Chiefs on 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: a short week, and then you play the Commanders on 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: a short week. 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: You also play the Eagles on a short week because 135 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: that's coming off of Monday Night Football. 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: You're right, So it's three of. 137 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: Those games off of a short week. 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: I mean, the NFL did not do any favors on 139 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: the back half of the schedule. 140 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: No, they didn't. And this is you know, you look 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: around by whatever metrics some folks use. This is one 142 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: of the most difficult stretches, I think in maybe NFL history, 143 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: when you're looking at teams from last year. But if 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: you're trying to find some of the positive wrinkles in this, 145 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: if you're a Cowboys fan, that sits out there. One. 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, you get some of these games, sure, on 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: a short week's notice, but you also get a little 148 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: bit of a longer break between some of them too. 149 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: You know, between Detroit and Minnesota you get ten days off. 150 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: Between you know, Washington and your season finale, you get 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: ten days off. So there's the positive spin for you, 152 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: but there is really not a lot to love here. 153 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: If you're the Cowboys, you play the two teams have 154 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: played in the Super Bowl last year four days apart. 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: That's that's tough, man. It's a tough stretch. 156 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: And then you go against the team that was arguably 157 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: the favorite to win the Super Bowl last year, maybe 158 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: the favorite to win it this. 159 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: Year ten days later, ten days later on the road 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: top of it. 161 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Luckily you get four of those six games at home, 162 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: and you got an opportunity to maybe establish home field, 163 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: but man, I have a feeling we're going to get 164 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: the middle of December and we're just looking at this team. 165 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: Gast We were talking about a gauntlet last year to 166 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: begin the season. You know, you had those games against 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: the Ravens, you had the games again, I mean Cleveland 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: at the time felt like a you know, part of 169 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: a gauntlet game. But now, obviously you have it towards 170 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: the end of the season where everybody's healthy, of course, right, 171 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: everyone's super feeling great towards. 172 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: The end of the season, right, Yeah, by the time 173 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: we were in December last year, this team had already 174 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: had like more IR stints than any other team in 175 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: the NFC, Yeah, other than maybe the forty nine ers. 176 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: So it is tough, it is, but it is the 177 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: NFL schedule that is in front of you, and those 178 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: are the games you have to play. 179 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, have you do you remember seeing a schedule like this? 180 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: Honestly, man, I've never been big on schedules to begin with, 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 5: even as a huge fan outside of this outside of work. 182 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: Is for me, it was always just like, oh, who 183 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: we playing this week? Okay, cool and just go out 184 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: and play, right, But when you're looking at the schedule 185 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: now kind of here in the building, it feels really intense. 186 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like this since I've been here, 187 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 5: which hasn't been very long. Three seasons now or I 188 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: guess four. This is just insane. And looking at all 189 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: the Thursday games that's crazy, followed by you know, short 190 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 5: breaks between games, like you just said, four days between 191 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: the Eagles and the Chiefs. It just bonkers. That's all 192 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: I have to say about it. 193 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if we're looking at teams on this 194 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: list that I'm like, okay, maybe they're not going to 195 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: be as high as they were last season. The two 196 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: stand out to me as a Minnesota I think we 197 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Minnesota's got so many questions marks just because JJ McCarthy 198 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: is going to be thrust in that starting role no 199 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: more Sam Donald. You know, Justin Jefferson is quarterback proof 200 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: and Jordan Addison has really stepped into his role as 201 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: a second wide receiver on that team. 202 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really funny just to hear you say like, 203 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: no more Sam Donald, like it was a bad thing. 204 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: It was because he had such a great year last here. 205 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: But I don't know if anybody in the NFL expected 206 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: that to be a year ago. 207 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a year ago if you had said that, well, 208 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: yeah no, that's been like okay, all right, all right, 209 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm down. 210 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah no. 211 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: But I mean, seriously, it's when you hand the reins 212 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: off to a rookie quarterback who's coming off a major 213 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: injury like JJ was, everything's kind of up in the 214 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: air and you don't really know what that's going to 215 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: look like. And then defensively, that's a separate conversation. And 216 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: of course, you know the other team is the week 217 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: after that in the Chargers. You know, I'm never gonna 218 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: necessarily bet against a Jim Harbaugh team being consistently a good, 219 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: physical football team. But do they feel like they've got 220 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: enough now to be to compete at the top of 221 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: the NFC and to get back to the playoffs again? 222 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: You know, what does that team look like? I think, 223 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, look at a Maryon Hampton. That guy just 224 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: screams Jim Harball, just screams Jim Harball. But are they 225 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: a team that has enough on the defensive side of 226 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: the football personnel wise to be able to compete with 227 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: the top in the NFC. So you know, both of 228 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: those games are at home plus there, but you know, Philly, 229 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Kansas City, Detroit. You know, Detroit losing two coordinators, how 230 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: much of an impact does that have. I think their 231 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: personnel is kind of way too good in terms of 232 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: there to for there to be a massive drop off. 233 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: Like when you've got Jamir Gibbs and I'm and Ross 234 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: Saint Brown, You're gonna figure it out. 235 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: Arguably the best roster in the NFL. 236 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely from top to bottom. They are Philly loaded. 237 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: I would throw them with Philly. 238 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: Those two are they're going to. 239 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Be and you get to face them three times. 240 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: And you get total some three times and then you 241 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: know the Commanders too, I mean, as good as they are, 242 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: and I think they got better this offseason. Two. Dallas 243 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: played the Commanders well. Last year. I would say Jaden Daniels, 244 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: who was excellent and so much fun to watch, probably 245 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: had two of his worst outings of the year against 246 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. They just had his number both times. I know, 247 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: the second the last game, he was kind of like, okay, whatever, 248 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: we're in the playoffs, so we're going to pull you early. 249 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: But in that first game he kind of found his 250 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: footing towards the end when that bonkers game started to 251 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: get calls itself, Terry Mike Zimmer. You got to give 252 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: him credit. He did a good job of being able 253 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: to limit him and take him away. And you know, now, 254 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: do you feel like, do they get the Commanders in 255 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: that second game at a point where Dallas is healthy 256 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: enough to have guys who can keep him in the pocket, 257 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: like a DeMar Von over shown or something like that, 258 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: to be able to kind of limit me. 259 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: Kenneth Murray, I know he's got some speed too, Yeah. 260 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: I mean you go up and down the schedule and 261 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 4: even some of the early games on the schedule, I 262 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: think green Bay at home. 263 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: Green Bay has never lost at AT and T Stadium 264 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: in the history of their franchise. 265 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: They have never lost pouch including the Super Bowl, which 266 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: was not against the Cowboys, but since then they haven't 267 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 4: lost in a regular season game at and T Stadium. 268 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: You take the Commanders at home on August nineteenth or 269 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: October nineteenth, I mean, that's another tough game Denver on 270 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: the road. 271 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: Who knows what Denver is going to be this year? 272 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 4: Who knew they were going to be what they were 273 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: last year too? If you had to pick one game 274 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 4: out of what I would consider the Gauntlet of the 275 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: schedule the week twelve through week seventeen. If you had 276 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: to pick one game that was most likely for Dallas 277 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: to surprise somebody, who would it be. 278 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to go I kind of picked this game 279 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: already on Hanging with the Boys last week. It was 280 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: brought in sort of at the tail end of the 281 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 5: third segment, but talking about how important it would be 282 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: to beat Green Bay at home, how important that game 283 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 5: would be for not only the Cowboys, but for Schottenheimer's 284 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: coaching tenure his first year as head coach. Is he 285 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: able to exercise some demons and finally beat the Green 286 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 5: Bay Packers here at home for the Dallas Cowboys. I 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 5: think that, to me would be a litmus test not 288 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 5: only for him, but for the team as well and 289 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 5: getting them back into they're winning ways. Obviously, we had 290 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: three twelve win seasons last year. Notwithstanding, I think you 291 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 5: kind of can. If you get a good game out 292 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 5: of that game, you're able to carry that over. It's 293 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: like you exercise that you've conquered that goal. Let's see 294 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: what Philly Holton store for us later on in the schedule. 295 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: Let's see what the Lions holden sore Force, who we 296 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: have had really decent games the last two times. I mean, granted, 297 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 5: actually last year was terrible. 298 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'll talk about it. We'll talk about twenty two. 299 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 5: But the year before that, I mean, that was an 300 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: excellent game. So I don't know. I feel like, at 301 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: least if you can conquer that, man, the rest of 302 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: the schedule can really open up for you if you're 303 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: playing good football. 304 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Out Here's the kind of wild card I'll say that, 305 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, that can change everything 306 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: is does Dak Prescott stay healthy? If Dak Prescott's available 307 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: in that backstretch, then I think you like the Cowboys 308 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: and a lot more of those games than you would. Sure, 309 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: if he isn't, that's going quarterback. That's gonna be your 310 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: biggest thing. And I know that's kind of like a well, yeah, no, 311 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: duh type of comment, But when you think about this 312 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: team now, at the backup quarterback spot, you don't have 313 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: Cooper Rush, who has gone in and played games for 314 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: you in one games for you. You don't have Trey Lance, 315 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: who has gone in and played a game for you, 316 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: but he's still there. Sure, you know, you've got two 317 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: newer guys and a Joe Milton who's still learning at 318 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: the playbook and learning the offense and has only played 319 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: in one game in his entire career. And you've got 320 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: Will greer So. 321 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: And Will Grew hasn't played in a game since twenty nineteen, 322 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: in a regular season game nineteen. 323 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: So that's what can really kind of take all of 324 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: this and just throw out the window. And again, it's 325 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: an obvious comment, but you know, with the fact that 326 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's only played two fully healthy seasons in the 327 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: last five years, it's something that you've got to consider. 328 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: So what would your game be in terms of the upset? Yeah, 329 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: which one do you feel like is most likely to happen? 330 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: Since you said Minnesota earlier, pick another game. 331 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say they. I think they can get the Chargers. 332 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: I think that's a game where this is going to 333 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: be an all around tough team and as long as 334 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Jim Harball's there, they're going to be a good defensive team. 335 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: They're gonna run the ball well. I think that plays 336 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: into what the Cowboys will be able to have from 337 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: a strength perspective, at least on the offensive side of 338 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: the ball. I think they'll be able to have success 339 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: against that defense. What concerns me about that game is 340 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: their ability to stop the run. But I think that's 341 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: one that the Cowboys can surprise some people late in 342 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: the season. It might be a game that they might 343 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: be in a position where, hey, they need this game 344 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs, or they need a win to 345 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: get a better seed, if they're at that point in 346 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: the season. If they're at that point in the standings, 347 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: So give me the give me the Chargers game. 348 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 6: Upset, Yeah, maybe a little bit wet, a little bit 349 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 6: of a wash. 350 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that might be a little bit more 351 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: even than you'd think. But since you took Minnesota away 352 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: from me, that's that's the one that I would feel most. 353 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: What about you, Klein? 354 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: I was asked the question the other day, what's the 355 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: most important game? The most important game? And it's funny. 356 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Because what would the coach's cliche be for that if 357 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: you were to ask a coach the next one? 358 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: The next one? 359 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: Right, The most important game to me is setting the 360 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: tone on Thursday, September fourth against Philadelphia and wink one. 361 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: And it's not a cliche. It's the fact that it's 362 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: the first game of a new era. It's the first 363 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: game with your starting quarterback back in healthy in quite 364 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: some time. I mean, god forbid something happened before then, 365 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: It's the first game where your full strength, and it 366 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: might be the only game where your full strength throughout 367 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: the schedule. 368 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys were incredible last. 369 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Year in the open. 370 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember back to Cleveland and 371 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: how much they just spanked the Browns on the road, 372 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: and it just never looked the same after that, whether 373 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: it was because of injuries or gameplay whatever, it may be. 374 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: No excuses for what happened after that, But in Week 375 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: one it all clicked. 376 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: If it clicks again and. 377 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: You're able to steal one from Philly, securing at least 378 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: a split in that series after what they did to 379 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: you in twenty twenty four, I would feel so much 380 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: differently about any part of the schedule because I'm confident 381 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: going in and seeing the Giants and the Bears, and 382 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 4: things get dicey after that you get the Packers. I 383 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: could see this team being if they beat the Eagles 384 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: week one, which is a huge if I could see 385 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: them being five to one going to Washington or welcoming 386 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: in Washington against the Commanders on October nineteenth, So if 387 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: you're able to start like that with the culture that 388 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: they're trying to build across the building, it doesn't matter 389 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 4: what the back half of the schedule is going to hold, 390 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: because you have that type of mentality that winners my 391 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: set from the early and from the jump, and you 392 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: did it against the reigning Super Bowl champions, spoiling their 393 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 4: party where they raise a banner and they get their 394 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: rings and all of that sort of thing. It would 395 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: be the sweetest of sweet victories that you could possibly 396 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 4: have outside of the playoffs, and it would be in 397 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: Week one. So yeah, the coach is cliche is the 398 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: most important game is the next one. 399 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: But in my opinion, I think you have to. 400 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: Start it like that and the rest will fall into place. 401 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: Because if you tell me that you can beat Philadelphia 402 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: on the road in primetime night game where that fan 403 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 4: base is going to be as charged up as they've 404 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: ever been charged up before, in the first game of 405 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: a coaching staff, a brand new coaching staff, then I 406 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: don't think you can look at the rest of the 407 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 4: schedule and say you can't win a game, that it's 408 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: impossible for you to win a game. 409 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: What if it's another situation where it's Tampa Bay opening opener, 410 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, sure, where it's a really 411 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 5: really crazy game. Yeah, if you really close game and 412 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: you lose. 413 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: I mean there's I'm of the mindset the the Nate 414 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 4: Newton school of teaching, where there's no moral victories, but 415 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: there's things you can take positively from certain elements, and 416 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 4: I think you would take positivity out of that. Even 417 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: if it's a close, heart fought game all the way through, 418 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: it's gonna end up as a loss, and that sucks, 419 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 4: and that's just you're gonna have to get over it 420 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: because you lost the game. 421 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: You weren't better than them in that day. 422 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: But if you can find things to build on, you 423 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: start with next week against New York. 424 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: Then you go the following week. 425 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: With another road test against the Bears, who were going 426 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: to be much better than they were last year in 427 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 4: the NFC North. I don't think it would be a 428 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: win in my book, but it would be a positive 429 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: thing to look at, and we'll talk about it on 430 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 4: the show when it happens. 431 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: Of course, you can't say it's a win, yeah, but geez. 432 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: If you can go in there and make it close 433 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: against that team, yeah, then you feel like you're at least. 434 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: In the right heading into the right direction, and go 435 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: in that direction. 436 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: You can say they're heading in the right direction. I 437 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: think that you know, at least how I view Week 438 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: ones is this is not the tell all in terms 439 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: of what your team is. And that's especially going to 440 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: be the case for Dallas because they're not going to 441 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: have Trayvon Diggs, They're not going to have Marvion over. 442 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not not even full strength. 443 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: At that, not at all. It's not This is not 444 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: going to be what the Cowboys are going to look like. 445 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: And you know, who knows what happens in training camp 446 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: as full strength you're going to get. Yeah, that's very 447 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: true because by the time though, by the time those 448 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 2: guys come back, other guys will be gone. No, you're 449 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: absolutely right. But nonetheless, you know, I completely agree with you. 450 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 2: If you make that a game and you show that 451 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: you can compete, that's a great sign for this team 452 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: and this coaching staff. But it's also a game that 453 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: this coaching staff is going to have two four months 454 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: to prepare for and they know that they're they're going 455 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: to go and get it. So you know that that 456 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: those opening games of the season. I think can can 457 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: kind of sway you a little bit into thinking, Okay, 458 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: this team is this. I think Cleveland last year was 459 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: a great example that obviously injuries and everything completely made 460 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: things different for the Cowboys going on later in the year. 461 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: But you know, once we get through that third game 462 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: against Chicago and even really I think the most telling 463 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: game the make or break early game. I think you 464 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: could categorize it as is that Green Bay game in 465 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: Week four, then we're really gonna know what this team is. 466 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: If they come out of that stretch at three and 467 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: one or somehow four and oh, then I think we've 468 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: got a really good football team on our hands. But 469 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: if they go two and two or one and three, 470 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised by that either. 471 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, just because there's a Lions fan in the chat 472 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: giving all the Cowboys fans some flak right now, I 473 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: just would like to say that the most possible upset 474 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: on the back half of the schedule is Lions on 475 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 4: the road, because Dallas just likes to win in Detroit 476 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: and win against Detroit do pretty often, Yeah, do it 477 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: pretty good. I Mean, I know last year didn't go 478 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: Dallas's way, but if you look back at the next one, two, three, four, five, 479 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: six meetings going back to twenty thirteen, Dallas was six 480 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: and oh going. 481 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: Into that game last year. 482 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: Oh wow, that seems like a lot lions. 483 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: So I just I think they could get the better 484 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: of Dan Campbell again if they're at full strength. 485 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: It seems like a lot of winning. 486 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of winning. 487 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: All right, let's take our first break when we come 488 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 4: back here on Talking Cowboys OTAs start this week. Cowboys 489 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: were on the practice field yesterday. We'll get a look 490 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: at them on the practice field today, first open media 491 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: portion of practice. What are we looking for out of 492 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: this OTA period? It's who are the who are some 493 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: of the guys that you're excited to see on the 494 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: field for the first time in a Cowboys uniform. When 495 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: we come back with more Talking Cowboys right after this. 496 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: If you're looking for fresh American roasted coffee that gives back, 497 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: you need to head to your local grocery store and 498 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: pick up a bag of Black Rifle Coffee. 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It's a pepper thing. 537 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: To Talking Cowboys. 538 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: This segment of Talking Cowboys is brought to you by 539 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: in Visi Line, the official Smile of the Dallas Cowboys. 540 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: Back alongside Tommy Yurs, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in the back, 541 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeomens we have our YouTube comment of the 542 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: day out of the first segment. I'm gonna give it 543 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 4: to Camo. I liked this comment. It's all about confidence. 544 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 4: Surprise you saw it. I know it's just a one 545 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: liner because it's Oh, it's Camoot. It is a one 546 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: liner who cares everybody getting the belt talking about the 547 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: Cowboys schedule in twenty twenty five. 548 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: I like the confidence. I like it. 549 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 5: I love it. 550 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: There was one comment that just flowed in a minute 551 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: ago said they disagree that the Bears are going to 552 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: be better than they were last year. They were five 553 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: and twelve last year. I I don't think they're better 554 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: than the Cowboys. I just think they're going to be 555 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: better than five and twelve, even with the first year 556 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: coaching staff. I know there are some people out there 557 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: that might think that there's a chance they win that division. 558 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: There's no way that wait, they win that division. 559 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: With them now Vikings and the Bear or excuse me, 560 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: the Vikings, the Packers and the Detroit Lions, who are 561 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: not very good and I just don't want to say 562 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: anything positive about them specifically because of who's in the comments. 563 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: That's a tough division overall, it's a tough division. 564 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: I still think they're a ten win team though. I 565 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: think they've got that kind of group. I think I 566 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: love what they did at the offensive. 567 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: That's a five win improved. 568 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: I know, I know that's as good as last year. 569 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're twice as good. Oh man, I 570 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: don't know. 571 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 572 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: I would like to see it. They deserve a decent 573 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: team in Chicago. 574 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: They've been waiting for a good team. 575 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: For Chris Chris, what do you think? What's the Bear 576 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: record next year? Chris Chris, I've got to turn down 577 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: so much stuff and. 578 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, you got a minute. What do you think. 579 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: Up? He's got to turn more stuff down. 580 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: He's turning it down. 581 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: I have to turn stuff up. 582 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 4: And and sorry, I'll say not looking at their schedule, 583 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: I'll say they go seven. 584 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Wins next year. 585 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 5: Seven wins, that's better. 586 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say seven or eight. It's two wins better. 587 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: There's a chance they could fight to be five hundred 588 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: next year. 589 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: I like it. Yeah, I like seven. 590 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: You're thinking seven, I'm thinking seven. I think that I 591 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: think they improve more than that. 592 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 4: I'd say eight or nine. There, they're gonna be right 593 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: on the cusp of five hundred. Right right around there 594 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: is where I'll throw it. But all right, OTA's in 595 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: the buildings. Starting yesterday, the Cowboys got on the practice field. 596 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: It's the first time the whole group has been together, rookies, veterans, 597 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: everybody on the field. Uh, who are some of the 598 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: guys that you want to see more of this week? 599 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 5: It's like how Jones says, it's football players on a 600 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: football field. He does it every single time. Every time 601 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: you see Yeah, I try but. 602 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: To the blitz, he's a good boys report. 603 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: I like Jones. I like how he did a guy. 604 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 5: But Donovan Azraiku, let's see him. Let's see him. I 605 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: want to see how he can contribute to a defensive 606 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 5: line that is in desperate need of depth. Obviously you 607 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 5: want to see that. And then Tommy Arsh posted a 608 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 5: great article yesterday for depth chart on dallascobies dot com. 609 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 5: Please check that out. Where you have rookie defensive tackles 610 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: going up against each other. 611 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 9: You have j. 612 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: Toya. Thank you very much. 613 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: It's really so we kind of got like tought on 614 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: that a little bit while we were in the locker room, 615 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: and it's almost like a d at the beginning it's like. 616 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: A doya doya, doya doya. 617 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: It's like a soft tea. 618 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 4: It was really weird that you were there right whenever 619 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: he was talking about it, and so we were talking 620 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: with pr about it, and it's it's going to be 621 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: a weird pronunciation. I don't know what to officially put 622 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: it on there, but toyea is what the pronunciation is. 623 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: But it's supposed to be like an e, like a 624 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 4: like a soft tea. Yeah, doia what I heard at. 625 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 3: Least very interesting. 626 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: And then you have Tommy King Basote as well, another 627 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 5: rookie that I mean, I. 628 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: Just want to didn't help us with these names? 629 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: Did they? 630 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 5: No? Not at all. But I think we got it 631 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: for the most part. 632 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: We did. We can learn you nailed it. 633 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 5: We can grow and learn you nailed it. Thank you. 634 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 5: I want to see how that battle plays out. I 635 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 5: want to see how the depth is able to step 636 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: up this year because we just simply did not have 637 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: it last year and we desperately needed it. Uh So 638 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: let's just see how these battles work out. 639 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's go through Tommy's ot A article yesterday 640 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: and answer the five questions the monitor as Cowboys began 641 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: ot a, how about will Micah Parsons participate on the field. 642 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: That's what I wish I knew the answer to. We're 643 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: going to find out here in a couple hours. But 644 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: I would not be shocked if he doesn't, just because 645 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: you know, kind of hinted at it in the sense of, like, 646 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'll be around in terms of, you know, 647 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: being able to learn and walk through it, see the playbook, 648 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: be around my teammates. I don't know if that means 649 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: he's going to necessarily partake in practice and those drills 650 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: and those kinds of things as he goes through this 651 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: contract extension talks with the organization. 652 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: And we don't know if he participated yesterday either because 653 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: we weren't able to see you. 654 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: We did practice, we are not so today it'll be 655 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: the telltale sign. 656 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. Do you guys care at 657 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 5: this point? No, we're not playing a game today. 658 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: I don't care, not right now. If he's out there, 659 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: I'll see him out there later on. 660 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: He's out there, I think if he's not there by 661 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: training camp, of course, and that's I would for right now. 662 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: I think you have you're better off per se. But 663 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: any any kind of work that you can get with 664 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: a new coaching especially with the new coaching staff. Any 665 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: kind of work you can get in together with your 666 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: new teammates and everything like that is going to help 667 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: you because then it'll who's Matt Eberflus and his staff 668 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: to get a look of like, Okay, this is what 669 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: this personnel package is going to look like, here's what 670 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: we can do when Mike is on the field. Here's 671 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: what we can do when he's on this side of 672 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: the ball, or what he's on this side of the ball. 673 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: When he's not there, it makes it a little bit 674 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: more difficult in terms of, like, Okay, obviously, since he's 675 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: their best player defensively, he's going to be involved in 676 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: so much of the conversation that when you remove him 677 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: from that equation, you're putting yourself on a spot of like, Okay, 678 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: we may not be in this situation a lot, but 679 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: here's what we're going to be doing. And so that 680 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: to me is the kind of catch with that is 681 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: you want your best players to participate in that kind 682 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: of stuff. And you know, Jerry Jones talked about with 683 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: us at the NFL's league meetings. We want to see 684 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons grow more as a leader, and we've seen 685 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: the locker room shuffle and all kinds of things like that, 686 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: and Mike has talked about wanting to grow in that 687 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: department too. Yeah, it would be a massive step in 688 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: the right direction if he's out there participating with his team. 689 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 4: I would love to see him out there. Don't get 690 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: me wrong. I would love to see him out there because, 691 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: like you said, everything he's doing out there on the field, 692 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: this something positive for the team, something positive as a unit. 693 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: But if you're asking me if it's going to affect 694 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: him as a player, I don't think so. 695 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. I think there's more. 696 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: He's not sitting on the couch podcasting or playing video games. 697 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 4: He's training elsewhere while he's also taking time away from 698 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: the facility. 699 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: And I think that's important to quill any sort of 700 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 5: Devil's advocates that are like he's under condragt whise you 701 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 5: know they're participating. Yeah, I think it's it's safe to 702 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 5: say that, like, obviously he's going to get the work in. 703 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 5: And again, like we said before, just sort of open 704 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: this segment is like there's no game today, there's plenty 705 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 5: to learn. If he's out there, all the better, But yeah, 706 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 5: there's plenty of time to kind of work on that. 707 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: And if he's not that they're training camp, that's a 708 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: whole different conversation. 709 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they'll get a deal done and he'll 710 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: training camp will change things. But even mandatory mini camp 711 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: stuff like that, like the mandatory team activities, I would 712 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: love to see him there for that. I don't want 713 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: them skipping anything mandatory. But right now, at this point 714 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: in time, we're in the middle of June or excuse me, 715 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: middle of May. We're not been into JUNI yet. It'll 716 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: take some time and once they get it right from 717 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: a contract standpoint, they'll get there all right. Next question, 718 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: what does Ceede Lamb and George Pickens dynamic look like 719 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: on the field together. That's what I'm most excited to see. 720 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: Well going into it. 721 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 5: We kind of saw it this past weekend, Tommy, I 722 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: believe you did an update on it. 723 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they hung out together at Kyler Murray's charity softball 724 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: tournament out in Arizona. And you know something that George 725 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: told the media when when we got to do a 726 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: conference call with him, and something that CD said too 727 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: is Hey, we're we're both ones, right like this is 728 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: this has been this conversation around Dallas, and even Stephen 729 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: Jones used the term wide receiver two or second wide receiver, 730 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: and you know, everybody thinks it's like it's it's. 731 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: A tier list right of the hierarchy, Like. 732 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: You've got to have this guy above this guy. And 733 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, Ceedey Lamb and George Pickens are saying, we 734 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: can throw all that out the window. We've just got 735 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: two very good wide receivers lined up alongside each other, 736 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: which is true. 737 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that I still think it's a one A one B, 738 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: which is still tiered. 739 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: Right. You know, you can tear it as much as 740 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: you want, and you know one's gonna have more production 741 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: than the other, and that's fine. But all your look, 742 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: if you're a Cowboys fan or if you are the Cowboys, 743 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: all you're looking for is for George Pickens to come 744 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: and take this offense to the next level, right, to 745 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: make some of the plays that the guys on the 746 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: roster from last year weren't able to make, right, like 747 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: those downfield shots that you know Dak Prescott loves the 748 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: seam routes and loves throwing in the seam. George Pickens 749 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: can can go up and get a ball in the seam, 750 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: and that that's what I'm looking for. The start of 751 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: OTA is the most is you know what kind of 752 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: routes are they running opposite each other? You know what's 753 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: George Pickens looking like from a separation standpoint. He hasn't 754 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: been great added for most of his career, but he's 755 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: just so much more athletic than everybody else that he 756 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: just goes and gets the ball and finds a way 757 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: to come down with it. So what does that look like? 758 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: And he continued to take the next step going into 759 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: a contract here, which is another motivating factor for him. 760 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: And then how does Seedy Lamb play off of that? Right? 761 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb has been really good for the Cowboys after 762 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 2: the catch him just on quick routes where they get 763 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: the ball in his hand. Whereas you know, Pickens can 764 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: be the all right, we're going to try to take 765 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: a shot here kind of player where you go outside 766 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: the numbers and see if Dak Prescott put Ken put 767 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: the ball in the right spot. 768 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 5: I just think having a player like George Pickens is 769 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 5: going to be beneficial to your team and it's going 770 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: to help in every way, in every way on the offense. 771 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 5: And you know, looking at even a player like Camante Turpin, 772 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 5: I think the opportunities for him will be more abundant 773 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 5: this year because you are afraid of those two receivers 774 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 5: on the outside. And just based on the interview that 775 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 5: they did from Kyler Murrays thing over the weekend, it 776 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 5: felt like they're they're on the same page. They're feeling good. 777 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: That's granted, without actually practicing on football field. That's actually 778 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: without playing a game. But I just think it keeps 779 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 5: defenses honest. I mean, they are going to see exactly 780 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 5: what CD and George Pickens are talking about. They're going 781 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 5: to see CD on one side and they're going to 782 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 5: see George Pickens on the other, and you have to 783 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 5: account for that. 784 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And to your point with Turpin, it slots everybody 785 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: else into their role. Jalen Tolbert as a number two receiver, 786 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: I don't think any of us felt comfortable with him 787 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 4: being a number two receiver, but as a number three receiver, 788 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 4: as somebody who's the third option to make a play, 789 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 4: I think Jalen Tolbert's one of the better three receivers 790 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: top three receivers in the league right in terms of 791 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: a third guy on three yeah, third guy, third or 792 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: fourth guy on a depth chart. The depth now at 793 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: wide receiver looks fine. You are okay with it because 794 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 4: you have that second weapon, that second lethal, elite type 795 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: of pass catcher, because you still have the blanket for 796 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott and Jake Ferguson. You still have him coming 797 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 4: back from an injury. Now he's had an entire offseason 798 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 4: healthy work with Dak Prescott. You get that connection back. 799 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: Hopefully he takes a step back to the Pro Bowl 800 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 4: caliber season that he had in twenty twenty three. Then 801 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 4: you turn around and you look at Turpin as a weapon. 802 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: You look at Jonathan Mingo as a red zone target. 803 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: Tolbert had seven touchdowns last year. If people forget how 804 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 4: effective he was in the red zone, even goal line situations. 805 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: He was effective, had the game winning catch against Pittsburgh. 806 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: All of that plays a factor now that You'reeorge Pickens 807 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: is in the fold. If you didn't have George Pickens 808 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: in the fold, I don't think you could talk about 809 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: Tolbert and Turpin and Mingo in the same light as 810 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: you can now because. 811 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 5: You wouldn't be using him in their best practices. 812 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: Now you can use them where they are best utilized. 813 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: Exactly where they can line up in where they're comfortable, 814 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 4: where they're proof lies in their best spot. I think overall, 815 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 4: proven is a big, big word for it. I think 816 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 4: those guys can be proven as depth receivers on your roster. 817 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 4: And now the Pickens is in the fold, they have 818 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: an opportunity to fall into that and have an impact 819 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: just like they have previously, just in a smaller role. 820 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: Speaking of impact, can Tyler Geiden, Mozzi Smith show flashes 821 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: of taking the next step? Couple first round picks that 822 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: people have their eyes on. I saw Mazzi the other day. 823 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 4: I will say he looks the part of a possible 824 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: either one or a three technique. You could really kind 825 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: of put him in the middle of both of those, 826 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 4: maybe even like a two technique type of body. He 827 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: looks big, he looks like he's been in the weight room. 828 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: We'll see him a little bit more today without the pads. 829 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 5: On setting prs. Probably, dude, he looks massive. 830 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: He definitely does so. I think there's one thing to 831 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 4: step in the right direction. 832 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: Tyler guid In another one. 833 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the two players that you look at, 834 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: and I think this is the second year in a 835 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: row that we've probably said, Okay, we want to see 836 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: more from Mozzie Smith. Of course, we want to see 837 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: him take that next step. And Tyler Guiden. It was 838 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 2: a roller coaster rookie season. It was I think more 839 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: down than it was up probably, but you know, with 840 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: that frame and the size that he's got, there's a 841 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: lot to work with there, and that's why you bring 842 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: in two guys who have been very good at developing 843 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: and taking guys to the next level on the offensive line, 844 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: and Clayton Adams and Connor Riley both at different levels. 845 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: Connor of course going from Kansas State where he's had 846 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: a lot of success on the offensive line with the 847 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: Wildcats over there, Couper bb being one of the examples 848 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: of that, and then Clayton Adams in Arizona when he's 849 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: had to work with some of those guys too. But 850 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: you know, the interesting thing with Mozzy Smith is when 851 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: Matty Reflucing his staff got here, I remember there was 852 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: a lot of chatter about, hey, we're really excited to 853 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: work with Mozzie Smith. Usually when you when you would 854 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 2: take this job, it's like, oh, we got Michael Parsons 855 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 2: to Ron Bland, Trayvon Dick, It's like that was excited about. 856 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: We're excited about Mozzi Smith and what we can do 857 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: with him. So that's not to say, all right, all 858 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: pro season for Missie Smith coming up, but I think 859 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: it's interesting that they pointed that out and that was 860 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: the first name amongst the many very talented players that 861 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: Dallas has on this defense. So another guy who's got 862 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: a good track record on the inside, especially with those 863 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: big one Texas, Aaron Whitecotton. You look at Quinn Williams 864 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: in New York, who you know. I think obviously Quinn 865 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: is a lot more versatile than Mozzy is than a 866 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: lot of the guys in the league are. But the 867 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: Jets had a pretty good defensive line and Aaron white 868 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: Connon was a big part of that. So if they 869 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: can take Missey Smith to the next level, then I 870 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: think you feel better about the defensive tackle position, because 871 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: right now, as it stands, I don't feel great about 872 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: defensive tackles at all, not at all. I mean, let 873 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: me let me read you the names the Cowboys have 874 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: at defensive It's. 875 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 4: Not even I'll let you read here in a second, 876 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: but it's not even an if they can take Mazzie 877 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: Smith to the next level. 878 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 5: It is a must they have to. 879 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 4: With the way that this lineup and the depth chart 880 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: is a defensive tackle or else, it's going to be 881 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 4: the same thing as they were last year. They're gonna 882 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 4: be thirty second and stopping the run. Teams are going 883 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: to gouge them up the middle, and it's going to 884 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 4: be tough on your linebackers to stay healthy all season. 885 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 3: Long read the list though, real quick. 886 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 2: So it's OsO, Dicky Zuo, Mazzi Smith, Good, Solomon Thomas, 887 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: j Doya, Tommy A King Besote, Justin Rodgers, and Denzel Dackson. 888 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 3: That's it. 889 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 4: Defensive tackle room, Osa and Solomon Thomas as three techs. 890 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 4: I feel okay about. I think that's a good one 891 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 4: two punch of three tech. I don't feel good about 892 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 4: anything else. 893 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: There no not and you should. I mean, until we 894 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: see you are. If you are coming into this season 895 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: relying on two seventh round picks to serve as important 896 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: depth pieces for you, that's not a great sign. I'm 897 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: not saying that Doya and a King Besota can't be 898 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: good for this team. They very well could, but that's 899 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: asking a lot of two rookies right off the bat 900 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: as soon as they get here. Yeah, and a team 901 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: that has struggled as much as the Cowboys do in 902 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 2: their front seven at stopping the run. That is, it's 903 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: a room that I think needs improvement. They can prove 904 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: me wrong, and that's fine. I mean, I'm sure the 905 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: Cowboys fans would want that, and the Cowboys would love 906 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: to see the growth in the next step. But there's 907 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: a lot to be There's a lot left to be 908 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: desired in that in that room. 909 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 5: I think it's not like there season oververse gets some 910 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: one of the best run running attacks in the NFL, right. 911 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: Nah, you know Saquon Barkley kind of oh guy, you 912 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 2: know two thousand yard season last year? 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All right, we're going through Tommy's article 978 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 4: five questions to monitor as the Cowboys began. OTA's great article. 979 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 4: Go check it out on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You 980 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 4: can see a little bit more in depth even to 981 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 4: what we're giving at the moment. We've gone through receivers, 982 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: We've gone through MICHAEH. Parsons. How about how involved will 983 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott be that's a big one right now. Where 984 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 4: do you feel like Dak Prescott's involvement should be at 985 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: this point in time coming back from the injury. 986 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: Seen him on the field a little bit, but not 987 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 3: like full speed. 988 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: There's no pads yet, you think he should be fully 989 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 4: involved or just pitch count. 990 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: At the moment. 991 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,479 Speaker 5: I think he's he's earned the right to do whatever 992 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 5: he needs to do on the field. I mean, obviously 993 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 5: they have him out there. You see him working out. 994 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 5: I mean I see him working out just about every 995 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 5: single day. He's out there, and he's active. 996 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: And see it on social media videos too. 997 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the social media videos. I mean he was 998 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 5: like catching puns out there, like just for fun, you know. 999 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 5: I Mean it wasn't anything serious at all, but like 1000 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 5: he's active, he's having a good time clearly out there. 1001 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 5: I think as involved as he wants to be in 1002 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 5: OTAs he will be. And I think he's already on 1003 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 5: the same page with coaches as far as like how 1004 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: in fault he's going to be. 1005 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: He's been like an extension of the coaching staff, Like. 1006 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, since he got hurt, even before McCarthy's era came 1007 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 4: to a halted in the middle of the year or 1008 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 4: in the middle of the off season. Now into the 1009 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: Schottenheimer era, he was a big proponent for Schottenheimer to 1010 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 4: be the head coach. Yeah, so he's going to give 1011 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 4: everything he can to try and help Shottenheimer. I think 1012 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 4: he's he's on the right track. He's putting in the 1013 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 4: work for sure. 1014 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean going back to Shotty, I mean, 1015 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott was a big reason that Brian Schottenheimer's name 1016 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 2: kind of got pushed to the forefront of the Cowboys 1017 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: coaching search. He was a big advocate for him. They 1018 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: have a great relationship and you know, Shoty talked about 1019 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: when he got the job that they've got a relationship 1020 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: to the point where they can have tough conversations too, 1021 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: and they can push each other in the right direction. 1022 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: Knowing Dak Prescott, excuse me, that's exactly what he's gonna want. 1023 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: As far as how involved he'll be, I think the 1024 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys need to be cautious with this in terms of 1025 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 2: you know, he's a guy that because he cares so much, 1026 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 2: and Mike McCarthy talked about it with us several times, 1027 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: he's a guy that can sometimes overwork and and do 1028 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: more than he's supposed to. And all great players want 1029 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: to do that. But when you're nursing an injury and you, 1030 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: like I said, have only been played fully hit Nick Harris, 1031 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: you got to can't call me during the show. 1032 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 3: I would say it's a bad idea, terrible idea. 1033 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: But you know, when you're coming back, like I said, 1034 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 2: two healthy seasons in the last five years, you got 1035 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: to be cautious and make sure that he's fully ready 1036 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: by week one because that's what matters. Like we talked 1037 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: about with Michael Parsons, like when he gets on the field, 1038 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 2: you know, you can debate that it doesn't really matter 1039 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: until trading camp. Dak Prescott, you can you can hang 1040 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: your hat on. Okay, we've seen this guy play. He's 1041 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: going into his tenth NFL season. He knows everything he 1042 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 2: needs to know about our scheme. He's in the room 1043 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: every day and he's still participating in practice. But we 1044 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: don't need to have him taking every rep or go 1045 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: on one hundred percent when he's still nursing back to 1046 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 2: full health. We want this guy at one hundred percent 1047 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 2: for seventeen games, so you can I think he played 1048 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: a little bit more cautious with Dak Prescott. 1049 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 4: No, yeah, I think you can. And it was a 1050 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 4: non contact injury to start, right. You don't want anything 1051 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 4: else like that to happen, So continue to get him involved. 1052 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be really involved, just like 1053 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 4: you said, based off of what we've seen. 1054 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 2: In the building. 1055 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 5: He's out there every single day. 1056 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 4: I think he'll be pretty much in the thick of 1057 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 4: it as you would expect at this time of the year. 1058 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 5: And when I say out there, not with the clipboard 1059 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 5: like he's run. 1060 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 3: Running around, got a jersey on and everything. 1061 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 4: Who can rise to the top in the running back 1062 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 4: and corner back rooms. 1063 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 3: Now we just. 1064 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 4: Talked about defensive tackle. These two spots concerned me significantly. 1065 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 4: When it comes to the Cowboys roster running back. I 1066 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 4: like the veterans that they've had. I think Jaden Blue 1067 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 4: can be a home run hitter at some point, but 1068 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 4: it's not likely that you're going to rely on a 1069 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 4: fifth round running back to be that guy off the 1070 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: jump and to be a starting bell cow back or 1071 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 4: even a change of pace back at this point in time. 1072 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 5: You say that, but I think that's a lot of 1073 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 5: people's expectations. I think I think that's the fans expectations. 1074 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 3: That's unrealistic to think. 1075 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 4: And I think it's it's great if it happens, yep, 1076 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 4: but the expectation of it would be unrealistic in my opinion. 1077 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 5: But I think we have to put it out there 1078 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 5: that it's like, I don't think you want to go 1079 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 5: into the season thinking that Jayden Blue is going to 1080 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 5: be your every down back because he was not that 1081 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 5: in college. 1082 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: Now he was not that. 1083 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 4: He never showed, but there's less tread on the tires, 1084 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 4: of course, in around some great running backs. He had 1085 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 4: a great run coach that's now coaching for some team 1086 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 4: up north that wears blue and has a cat on 1087 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: their helmet. There's a couple of things to kind of 1088 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: keep in mind with him though. Is he had a 1089 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 4: fumbling concern. He's not a physical back. There's a lot 1090 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: of speed element to his game and a finesse element 1091 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 4: to his game. He's gonna have to have to add 1092 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 4: some size. He's going to have to add some physicality. 1093 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 4: Pass protection is going to be a thing that they're 1094 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 4: going to be concerned about early in his career. 1095 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: Running back corner. I look at and I. 1096 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 4: Say, there are still holes here, especially until Diggs returns. 1097 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 4: He did put out a tweet yesterday that I thought 1098 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 4: was kind of interesting, saying that he was returning quicker 1099 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 4: than he thought. Initially, it kind of felt like he 1100 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 4: was talking about his initial injury, like the one from 1101 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 4: He was speaking in past tense, in past terminology, So 1102 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 4: I don't know if he was talking about the first 1103 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 4: time he had a major injury, but. 1104 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: This is a second time. 1105 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 4: So even if he does return earlier than expected, I'm 1106 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 4: interested to see how he's going to fit into the 1107 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 4: fold in this cornerback room. 1108 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, if he can return earlier than expected, 1109 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: that would be massive for Dallas because you know, you 1110 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 2: look at the cornerback room, You've got Deran and Bland 1111 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 2: in there, and then after that, it's really a lot 1112 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 2: of question marks, like what are the Cowboys getting out 1113 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 2: of Kyrie Elam who they traded for in the off season. 1114 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: You know, does a fresh is a fresh start what 1115 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: he needed to be more of what we saw when 1116 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 2: he was coming out of Florida. Savone Revel the third 1117 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: round pick from this year's draft. Is he ready to. 1118 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 3: Go and been there to starting like that? 1119 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 2: Right? But he's been off to the side. He hasn't 1120 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: been participating in any team activities and he won't as 1121 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: he continues to recover from attorney cl but he said 1122 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: he should be ready by training camp. So if he 1123 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: goes through trading camp and does well, does this staff 1124 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 2: trust him enough to start him on day one opposite 1125 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: to Ron planned? And then, you know, the biggest thing 1126 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 2: for me is who are you putting in the slot? 1127 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 2: You know, with Jordan Lewis leaving this off season going 1128 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: to Jacksonville, you know, do you look at Israel mcwamou 1129 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: is that a guy that you want to put in there? 1130 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 2: I know there's been some tretterary that's wherever he's out. 1131 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: I know there's been a lot of chatter about Deron 1132 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: Bland moving into slot. I don't see that happening. I 1133 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 2: think that's less likely, but I think you can still 1134 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 2: lay it out on the table. But those that position 1135 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 2: the slot corner especially is going to be the biggest 1136 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: question for me, just because I think it's a really 1137 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: important role in today's NFL. 1138 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 5: I think that's the one answer that you don't really 1139 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 5: find out until training camp. Until the start training camp 1140 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 5: and when you see uh Savon revol Savone Rebel, Savone REVL. 1141 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 5: I don't think it until he's healthy and on the 1142 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: field and you know, taking reps. I don't think that 1143 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 5: you really know the answer until then, because I think 1144 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 5: you're banking a lot on how he's going to produce. 1145 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 5: You're banking a lot on his production during the season 1146 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 5: when you don't exactly know what he looks like in 1147 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 5: the defense here. 1148 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you can bank on anybody's production in 1149 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 4: the cornerback room period because if you think of Deron Blan, 1150 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs, those guys have been injured, they've been out 1151 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 4: of the lineup, they've been back and forth. Sure, Trayvon 1152 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 4: did what he did a couple of years ago and 1153 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 4: broke records with the interception. Same thing with Deron Bland 1154 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 4: too years ago. Now broke records with the pick sixes 1155 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 4: and had a great year. But they've had major injuries, 1156 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 4: sometimes multiple in the case of Trayvon Diggs going into 1157 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 4: this year, I don't think you can bank on any 1158 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 4: of those guys because everybody that's expected to be a 1159 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 4: starter right now had had some kind of injury last year. Bland, Digs, Carson, 1160 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 4: and revel At the college level, all four of your 1161 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 4: guys that could possibly be a starter in that room 1162 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 4: are coming off of some level of injury, sometimes major injuries, 1163 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 4: most of the time major injuries, and you're gonna have 1164 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 4: to fit them in with the expectation that they're going 1165 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 4: to be solidified in the cornerback spot. 1166 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 3: And I don't feel great about that. 1167 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 5: And that's exactly why I say I don't think that 1168 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 5: question reveals itself or or it gets answered in any 1169 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 5: way until camp. I don't think there's anything between now 1170 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 5: and camp that they do until we get there on 1171 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 5: the ground and then they start seeing. 1172 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 4: These You say the same thing, because I think I 1173 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 4: could say the same thing about running. 1174 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 5: Back that I feel like it. I feel like we're 1175 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 5: we're going to see something. I feel like we are 1176 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 5: where we're at with running back. I don't know that 1177 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 5: that change that all. I think it's you're going to 1178 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 5: lean on Javonte Williams. I think he's going to be 1179 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 5: your starter. 1180 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 3: Okay. 1181 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 2: I think Gavonte Williams is a little bit more juice 1182 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: and we're giving him credit for Okay, I'm not saying 1183 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: I would be. I'm not saying that he's, you know, 1184 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl lock or anything like that. But I 1185 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: think that he's got a little bit more left on 1186 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 2: the tank than people think. Obviously, the injury passed with 1187 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 2: him has been you know, really what what has changed things. 1188 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens obviously, But you know, when 1189 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: you look at a buy committee approaches, is what it 1190 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 2: looks like the Cowboys are going to have to rely 1191 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: on at least to start. I think Williams is your 1192 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 2: spearhead there and then everything after that is is kind 1193 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: of up for grabs. You know what kind of version 1194 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 2: of Miles Sanders do you get? Do you get more 1195 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two Philadelphia Miles Sanders or do 1196 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 2: you get more of the twenty twenty four Carolina Panthers 1197 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 2: Miles Sanders. Right, that's an interesting one to look at. 1198 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: And you know Jaden Blue watching him for since his 1199 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: high school days at Cline Kane and then going to Texas, 1200 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: you know, what he's able to do in the open 1201 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 2: field with his speed and as a receiving back is 1202 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 2: incredibly dangerous. And you know, in the open field he 1203 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: is one of the harder guys I've ever seen to 1204 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 2: bring down just because of what he can do. With 1205 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 2: his legs and you know, making guys miss one on one. 1206 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 2: But this is a guy who in his college days 1207 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 2: had one game with eighteen or more offensive touches in 1208 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 2: a game. So this is not a I'm gonna carry 1209 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: the workload type of running back. Yeah, this is a 1210 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 2: guy who you know, he can run in between the tackles. 1211 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 3: Think Tony Pollard coming out of Memphis. 1212 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can run in between the tackles, and he 1213 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: can slip out of the backfield on a wheel route 1214 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: or on a Texas route and catch and run for you. 1215 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 2: But he's not gonna be a guy who's gonna carry 1216 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 2: the ball twenty twenty five times a game, which is 1217 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: what it sounds like Brian Schotdheimer would be looking for, 1218 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: because based on how much he wants to run the football, 1219 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: he can give you the home run ability, but just 1220 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: in a different way compared to some of the other 1221 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 2: guys in the draft we were talking about, like a 1222 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: Traveon Henderson or an Ashton gent or something like that, 1223 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 2: just because his looks a little bit different. And it's 1224 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: a good different, I mean, because he's so fast and 1225 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 2: he can do once he gets the ball in space, 1226 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 2: you know, But it does he is he able to 1227 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 2: do enough and is he able to contribute enough? And 1228 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: what Brian Schotenheimer's trying to do compared to what Steve 1229 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 2: Sarkisian did a Texas to be able to find his 1230 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 2: fit here. That'll be the interesting thing to watch. And 1231 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: then of course Phil Maffa from Clemson is the other 1232 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 2: wild card there. He's more of the you know. 1233 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 6: Bigger bodies, sugger bodies, get the yard right, pass protection, 1234 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 6: and you know he's he's the thumper who can go 1235 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 6: in between the tackles and have more success there. 1236 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 2: He's had a little bit better. He's a much better 1237 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 2: history in terms of ball security compared to Jayden Blue, 1238 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 2: who has really struggled with that. So it's a it's 1239 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 2: a wide open room. I think behind Javonte Williams. But 1240 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: like I said, I think Davonte Williams, I don't think 1241 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 2: we've given him enough credit just yet. I hope you're right. 1242 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 4: I hope you are because I think he did some 1243 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 4: things in Denver that was worthwhile, and and yes he 1244 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 4: dealt with injuries there too and kind of had it 1245 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 4: up and down ending. I just still don't feel comfortable 1246 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 4: with either one of those positions, running back or corner. 1247 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 4: I think so somebody from running back will emerge as 1248 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 4: the guy. Now, does that mean they can't go get 1249 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 4: some outside help or go sign somebody else. No, that 1250 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that that's going to end that. I think 1251 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 4: it would take somebody being just through the roof for 1252 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 4: that to be out of the equation. 1253 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 5: But aren't you at least a little bit surprised of 1254 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 5: what they've done so far at running back? What do 1255 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 5: you mean this offseason? I just mean, like, isn't any 1256 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 5: of this? Is any of this surprising to you? What 1257 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 5: they've done with the running back positions? 1258 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 4: Really really drafted a guy late, added two veterans. I 1259 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 4: mean they've added veterans before. I think Javonte Williams is 1260 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 4: probably the best of the veterans that they've added. Research 1261 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 4: for think about guys like Royce Freeman and I'm trying 1262 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 4: to think of even some of the other guys they had. Yeah, 1263 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 4: like that was an undrafted free agent, Yeah, the same 1264 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 4: kind of They. 1265 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 5: Haven't spent guys that are not gonna like blow you away. 1266 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 4: Correct, they haven't done the big move at running back 1267 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 4: in since drafting Zeke. Really that was the last time 1268 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 4: they did a big move at running back, and am 1269 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 4: I saying you have to make a big remove at 1270 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 4: running back. No, but you need somebody that's gonna sit 1271 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 4: up there and run the football behind a revamped offensive 1272 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 4: line and give you some confidence in pass protection, to 1273 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 4: get your quarterback some time to throw, and to give 1274 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 4: you a pass catch option out of the backfield. If 1275 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 4: these three guys Blue, Javonte Williams, Miles Sanders can get 1276 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 4: you that, then I think will feel Okay. I'm not 1277 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 4: looking at this with the expectation of those three guys doing. 1278 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: That, though. 1279 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 5: Which of the guys most likely to do that? 1280 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 3: For probably Williams, Yeah, I would say Williams, and then. 1281 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 4: Blues probably in the second the competition with Sanderss guys 1282 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 4: on a similar tier, mostly because Blue is gonna be 1283 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 4: on a rookie deal. He's got a younger, quicker background 1284 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 4: to him. He's also got a pass catching element to 1285 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 4: his game. Sanders was almost exclusively a pass catcher out 1286 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 4: of the backfield for Carolina last year. 1287 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 3: Was really where the majority of his production came. 1288 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 5: From, which is something that the Cowboys desperately needs They 1289 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 5: need to incorporate in their offense. Non existent. 1290 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, then that's where the running back by committee can 1291 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 4: can work. But man, there's a lot that can fall 1292 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 4: apart too, because what you might get in a positive 1293 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 4: element from one player, you may give up in a 1294 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 4: negative element in that same player exactly. It's kind of 1295 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 4: inconsistive and take yeah, yeah, So that's gonna do it 1296 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 4: for us though. 1297 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 3: Here on Talking Cowboys, I hope you had some fun 1298 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 3: with us here. 1299 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 2: Over the last hour. 1300 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 4: Started the show making the joke that we won't be 1301 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 4: back on the air until next Tuesday, and all of 1302 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 4: this stuff's gonna happen between now and then. While that 1303 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 4: is serious, and we'll be back next Tuesday. Be sure 1304 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 4: to keep up to date Dallas Cowboys dot com. 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