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Speaker 1: Let's talk about national divorce. Every single time we talk

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Speaker 1: about this, it gets spicy, it gets interesting. People get mad,

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Speaker 1: people will agree, people disagree, people yell, people argue. That

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Speaker 1: means it's a good topic. Debate is good. Let me

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Speaker 1: just give it to you from where I see it.

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Speaker 1: This is how I see it, the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm assuming you love it. That's why

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Speaker 1: you're sitting here watching our special on I'm right, I

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Speaker 1: know you love it. But let's stop for a second.

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Speaker 1: We love what America has always been, do we not

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Speaker 1: the stars and stripes, the land and the free.

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Speaker 2: We're proud of our country. I am proud of my country.

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Speaker 2: I would die for my country.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably feel the exact same way, and

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. But we do have to always

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Speaker 1: have perspective. And it's very very difficult, very very difficult

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Speaker 2: Look at him, He's going to be a dirt ball

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Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to look at your own kid

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Speaker 1: You don't have perspective. It's hard for us to have

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Speaker 1: perspective on America. So let's have a historical perspective on America.

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Speaker 1: Nations rise and nations fall, they just do you want

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Speaker 1: to do a little thought experiment. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: of Europe five hundred years ago, not even ancient history,

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Speaker 1: Then look at a map of Europe today. Nations rise, fall,

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Speaker 1: And so we as Americans do always have to understand,

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Speaker 1: as much as we love America, there is an expiration

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Speaker 1: date at some point, at some point. No it's not tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but at some point the closed

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Speaker 1: So let's discuss.

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Speaker 2: Where we are.

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Speaker 1: Now that we understand that what I just said isn't

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Speaker 1: let's discuss where we are.

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Speaker 2: We are two different people.

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Speaker 1: Now I wish it wasn't so, I wish the cultural

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Speaker 1: Marxists hadn't infiltrated this nation the way they.

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Speaker 2: Have, but nevertheless they have.

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Speaker 1: You can accept this or not, but you share a

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Speaker 1: And they're not a tiny, insignificant minority. A large percentage

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be a significant percent of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America hates you and hates the country.

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Speaker 1: And you cannot and should not live in a nation

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Speaker 1: surrounded by people who hostile.

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Speaker 2: To you, who hate you.

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Speaker 1: These people, Look, let's talk about illegal immigration went off

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Speaker 1: the bat. Let's go down a list of and there's

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Speaker 1: five quick reasons illegal immigration. Securing your nation from illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration is a base part of being a nation. That's

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Speaker 1: not Republican or Democrat, it's not even American. Again, just

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Speaker 1: open a history book. Nations control who.

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Speaker 1: That's just kind of a basic way to run a nation.

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Speaker 1: How on earth are you and me supposed to share

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Speaker 2: And we need in this country. Forget the fact that.

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Speaker 3: The farm that our vegetables would rit in the ground

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Speaker 1: These people took power and they opened up the border

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about another one. This might be the biggest one.

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Speaker 2: Could you. I want you to picture this. I want

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Speaker 1: I want you to picture there is a child predator

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Speaker 1: Of course you couldn't. You would never think about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's how the communist thinks about your children. The communist

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Speaker 2: Over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: Again, the communist steps up on camera and claims, Hey,

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Speaker 4: there's no such thing as someone else's child, no such

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Speaker 2: Our nation's children are all our children.

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Speaker 1: How do you share that neighborhood? Look at the let's

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Speaker 1: stay on kids. If there was all right, we'll stay

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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. Across the street. Not a child predator,

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Speaker 1: you know, the gross super grows kind. But a child killer.

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Speaker 1: you have to go? I'm not going to let this

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Speaker 1: Women, Oh, I don't like it, I'll just kill it.

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Speaker 1: But we share a nation with lots of these people.

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Speaker 5: Or any restrictions on abortion, I don't I've always been thrimester.

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Speaker 6: I believe that choice is between a woman, her doctor,

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Speaker 2: If she praised the one you would.

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Speaker 1: Veto any law with any limit on abortion, I.

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Speaker 7: Any additional restrictions on abortion that are sent to my

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Speaker 4: If a mother is in labor, I can tell you

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Speaker 4: exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the

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Speaker 1: How do we live in the same neighborhood with that?

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Speaker 1: We're different people, man, Look we have a different religion. Look,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. And it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: about you. They have a religion, and it's not just

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Speaker 2: Not they believe what they believe and you just get

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they're so angry with Christianity today?

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Speaker 8: This movement was the foundation for Januuary six They were

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Speaker 8: the moving elements that made January sixth and the insurrection happen.

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Speaker 2: And now we have a Speaker of the House who

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Speaker 9: Attack on trans people written large, because this is actually

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Speaker 9: a focus by the Christian nationalist movement on anything that

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Speaker 6: So they put their loyalty to Trump and God before

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Speaker 6: Constitution and country. I think it is the most heinous threat,

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Speaker 6: think of at any point in our country. Right now,

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Speaker 6: it's happening.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't live together anymore. We are different people and

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Speaker 1: we're just going to hurt each other. That's why we

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Speaker 1: should divorce. And that's why. Look, it doesn't matter whether

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Speaker 1: you agree with everything I just said. It may make

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Speaker 1: I'll explain next. Oh great, we have another continuing resolution.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we do more spending, more omnibus. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see what comes next. These people, Republican and Democrat,

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Speaker 1: they just don't.

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Speaker 2: Care about the value of our dollar.

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Speaker 1: They don't even attempt to save it, as we can't

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Speaker 1: let them blow that up. That's why you get gold

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Speaker 1: they make it easy.

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Speaker 2: It's laid back. You just make a phone call and

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Speaker 2: they'll walk you through all of that. Hey, how do

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 1: How do I get it in my physical possession?

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Speaker 1: Tell them I toty to call and they'll try reach

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Speaker 1: three nine nine five gold. All right, Now, I know

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Speaker 1: that was a lot of national divorce. Here's where our

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Speaker 1: differences are. Here are are irreconcilable differences. But let's let's

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Speaker 1: just talk about the basics, the brass tax of this

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Speaker 1: in some official way.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's always been a dream of mine, But it's never

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. The communists sit down with me and a

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Speaker 1: few other anti communists on the right. We just sit

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Speaker 1: kind of work out, Hey, who gets the kids, who

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Speaker 1: gets the car, who gets to find China?

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Speaker 2: That kind of a thing that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I know that, But let's move past that and talk

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Speaker 1: about what is already happening.

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Speaker 2: Not what you want, not what I want.

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Speaker 1: What is already happening. Divorce is already happening. People are

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Speaker 1: already and they're doing this by moving. You See, here's

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Speaker 1: the truth about humanity. This is not unique to America.

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Speaker 1: It's not unique to Red Blue anything like that. Human

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Speaker 1: is hostile to them if they have options. If you

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a positive aspect of all this, about

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Speaker 1: Governor Ron de Santus, of course, you know who he is,

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Speaker 2: The courage to be free governor. It was stunning to me.

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Speaker 8: And so the legislature finally passed a bill for me

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Speaker 8: And here's the thing. Glaine Maxwell is in prison in

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Speaker 8: go to Congress and ask them to legislate the release.

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Speaker 8: But my sense would be, hopefully we'll get some answers

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Speaker 8: with what Florida's doing. But I think there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of stuff in the federal government's possession because they were

442
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Speaker 8: involved in multiple jurisdictions, and as we know, justice was

443
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Speaker 8: never adequately served in this case.

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Speaker 2: No, certainly not.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine why hands on guy like Joe Biden

446
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Speaker 1: would want those files kept secret. But well, let's move

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Speaker 1: on and talk about another set of groomers. The Disney

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Speaker 1: World thing, Governor, it breaks myarhart. Ten years ago, I

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Speaker 1: took my family down to Disney World. Obviously, we had

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Speaker 1: a blast.

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Speaker 2: Ride and the rides. It's freaking disney World. It's part

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Speaker 2: of America.

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Speaker 1: And now you get to go to Disney World and

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Speaker 1: watch princesses who have beards there. They decided they wanted

455
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Speaker 1: to teach your second grader about sex.

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Speaker 2: What happened and what did you do to these people?

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Speaker 8: Well, Jesse, I mean, I mean, I agree with you.

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Speaker 8: I mean I grew up in Florida and we lived

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Speaker 8: for a time. I actually lived in the Orlando area

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Speaker 8: as a young kid for a couple of years. Where

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Speaker 8: we were going, you know, based on where my dad

462
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Speaker 8: was working at the time and then and back then,

463
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Speaker 8: as a Florida resident, you'd go to a park for

464
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Speaker 8: like fifteen bucks and I'd go to Magic that back

465
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Speaker 8: then it was just Magic Kingdom and Epcot, but you'd go.

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Speaker 8: I wrote all the rides. I did so many times,

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Speaker 8: and it's just something that was important for our state

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Speaker 8: and really an all American brand. Uh. We had a

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Speaker 8: bill a couple of years ago in Florida to protect

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Speaker 8: kids and to protect the rights of parents when it

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Speaker 8: comes to indoctrination in the classroom. UH, with with the

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Speaker 8: sexual matters like transgenderism, and we took a position to

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Speaker 8: just say, we're not going to be telling elementary school

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Speaker 8: kids that their gender is a choice. We're not going

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Speaker 8: to be getting involved into teachers prying into these types

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Speaker 8: of matters. And I think that is something that the

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Speaker 8: overwhelming percentage of parents agreed with. You know, Disney, for

478
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Speaker 8: whatever reason, decided to fight us on that, came out

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Speaker 8: opposed to the build tried to kill the bill. A

480
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Speaker 8: lot of people thought I would have to veto the

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Speaker 8: bill just because they're the eight hundred pound guerrilla in

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Speaker 8: Florida politics and no one really goes against them. But

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm a dad. I've got young kids. I

484
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Speaker 8: got a first grader, I've got a kindergartner, and i

485
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Speaker 8: got a preschooler. And it's sad to say, but as

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Speaker 8: a parent, I now have to be concerned if they

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Speaker 8: put on a Disney program, you know what may be

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Speaker 8: trying to shove down their throat. That was not true

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Speaker 8: when I was a kid. It's certainly not consistent with

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Speaker 8: Walt's vision. But that, unfortunately what's happened. And you know,

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Speaker 8: we basically were in a situation where they were pledging

492
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Speaker 8: to overturn our law, they were going to sue on it,

493
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Speaker 8: they were going to do all this, which, look, I

494
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Speaker 8: don't think a publicly traded company should be getting involved

495
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Speaker 8: in this, but if they want to do that, fine. However,

496
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Speaker 8: they had all these special privileges that they had built

497
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Speaker 8: up over many decades, which is effectively the biggest corporate

498
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Speaker 8: welfare scheme in all of America. And so we undid that.

499
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Speaker 8: We took that away and said, you know what, you're

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Speaker 8: not going to be able to have this corporate cronyism

501
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Speaker 8: where they actually controlled the local government entirely in Central Florida.

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Speaker 8: So this is the one year anniversary of US imposing

503
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Speaker 8: a state control board over this district local government in

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Speaker 8: Central Florida. And the media when we did this said, oh,

505
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Speaker 8: it's going to be so bad. All this other stuff,

506
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Speaker 8: none of what the critics said have come to pass.

507
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Speaker 8: I had all these even establishment Republicans attacking me over this.

508
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Speaker 8: What has actually happened is the district has cut taxes

509
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Speaker 8: for all the tenant businesses in the district about twelve

510
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Speaker 8: million dollars in savings, and then they've opened up bidding

511
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Speaker 8: for district projects competitively, so now local businesses in the

512
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Speaker 8: Orlando area can compete and get jobs. And so it's

513
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Speaker 8: a difference between operating a local government in the best

514
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Speaker 8: interests of the citizens rather than allowing one corporation to

515
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Speaker 8: control it for its own personal interests. And so it's

516
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Speaker 8: in a example of good governance that we were able

517
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Speaker 8: to unwind Disney's special privileges. And you know what, four

518
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Speaker 8: or five years ago, nobody would have thought that was

519
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Speaker 8: possible in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 1: Governor wrapping this up, you were talking about Walt Disney,

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Speaker 1: and it's fascinating to me how many of these wealthy

522
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Speaker 1: titans throughout history, not just American, how many of their

523
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Speaker 1: kids turn out to be useless commy scum from the

524
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Speaker 1: Fords and Walt Disney's to I mean.

525
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Speaker 2: The Chay's parents.

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Speaker 1: What is it about wealth and power as a parent

527
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Speaker 1: that it makes your child more likely to be a

528
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Speaker 1: piece of trash?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you raise an interesting question if you

530
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Speaker 8: look at some of these foundations like the Ford Foundation,

531
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Speaker 8: some of these others were really fell from a great

532
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Speaker 8: industrialists of the past, and now you go a few

533
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Speaker 8: generations forward and they are funding massive funding of hard

534
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Speaker 8: left causes that are functionally anti American and anti the

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Speaker 8: values that allowed their families to accumulate that wealth in

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Speaker 8: the first place. I've said that those those organizations are

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Speaker 8: things that we should look at for scrutiny because they

538
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 8: get massive tax benefits, they don't really pay taxes, and

539
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Speaker 8: yet they're really having a major political impact. It's interesting

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Speaker 8: when I was going through school, college, in law school,

541
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Speaker 8: you know, I was in some of these so called

542
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Speaker 8: elite institutions, and I was a working class kid. I

543
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Speaker 8: was a baseball player. A lot of the kids that

544
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Speaker 8: I played baseball or that were on the football team

545
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Speaker 8: that I knew from college came from more blue collar,

546
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Speaker 8: middle class families, and they were all very pro American.

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Speaker 8: The folks that had been legacies from these universities or

548
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 8: came from some of those multi generational families of wealth,

549
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Speaker 8: they tended to be the ones who were the most

550
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Speaker 8: anti American and were most left wing and their activism.

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Speaker 8: So it's interesting because they would fashion themselves as like

552
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Speaker 8: standing up for the working people. Yet I was one

553
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Speaker 8: of those working people, making minimum wage jobs to skate through,

554
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Speaker 8: and I actually believed in the values of this country,

555
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Speaker 8: and they had benefited so much from it, and they

556
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Speaker 8: turned their back on it.

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Speaker 1: Governor, appreciate you very much. I'm glad you're there. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll be moving there shortly. I'm sure, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: James Lindsey disagrees with me vehemently about national divorce. Thinks

561
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Speaker 1: it's a disastrous idea, and he might be right. I mean,

562
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Speaker 1: I love James very smart. Let's working out and me

563
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Speaker 1: and and I I don't know, into community college.

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Speaker 2: Next, Let's talk to James about all this. Do you

565
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Speaker 2: know why?

566
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Speaker 1: Because I learned from James and he disagrees with me,

567
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Speaker 1: vehemently disagrees with me. Joining me now, my friend James Lindsey,

568
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Speaker 1: he has a new book out that is available now.

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Speaker 1: I always tell you to buy James's books. I read

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Speaker 1: everything he writes, books, Articles of the American Child. If

571
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Speaker 1: you're a parent, potential parent, one of those children, this

572
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: is a manual you need to get so you understand

573
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Speaker 1: what these dirt balls are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: To your children. But we'll get to that here in

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Speaker 2: a few James, national divorce is horrible. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I say it is inevitable, though you say it's disaster.

577
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Speaker 1: In fact, you wrote an article saying national divorce is

578
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Speaker 1: national suicide.

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Speaker 2: I have had the floor. I give it to you. Well.

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Speaker 5: I mean I like that we start here, that we

581
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: actually agree on a key piece of substance here, Jesse,

582
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Speaker 5: which is that it would be really bad. And the

583
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Speaker 5: disagreement is on whether it's inevitable, and if we accept

584
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Speaker 5: that it's inevitable, whether or not we move intentionally into it.

585
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Speaker 5: If we don't think it's inevitable, I think we should

586
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Speaker 5: resist it as long as we can. We should try

587
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Speaker 5: to keep these fifty states together. We should keep them

588
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Speaker 5: united as it is. We should defend the Constitution. And

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Speaker 5: I think you don't disagree with that, except that you

590
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 5: think that the American left and right, if I'm not

591
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 5: mis presenting, you have drifted so far apart that there's

592
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Speaker 5: no reconciliation. So we have less to disagree on, I

593
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Speaker 5: think than the viewers might fear. The fact of the

594
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Speaker 5: matter is that I see no pathways to a good outcome.

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Speaker 5: No pathways to a successful outcome for the right, or

596
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Speaker 5: what I called in the essay red state, if it

597
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 5: were to contrast it against Blue State, if it were

598
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Speaker 5: to break away and try to make a go of

599
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Speaker 5: an independent state. I don't think that communists will allow

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Speaker 5: an amicable divorce. I think what we'll find ourselves in

601
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Speaker 5: is immediately in the same situation that we found ourselves

602
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Speaker 5: in in the Civil War, where Fort Sumner, which is

603
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Speaker 5: off the coast of Charleston, South Carolina, was still a

604
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Speaker 5: US fort that remained part of the Union, while Charleston

605
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Speaker 5: or South Carolina had seceded, which sparked the actual war.

606
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Speaker 5: It led to Lincoln declaring war on the Confederacy. But

607
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Speaker 5: I think that that's going to be multiplied about a

608
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Speaker 5: thousand times over given nuclear weapons, given that many of

609
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Speaker 5: the states that are coded read on the map here

610
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Speaker 5: have nuclear weapon installations in other US military bases that

611
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Speaker 5: the United States government, which will be Blue State, it's

612
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Speaker 5: certainly not going to let go off. The international community

613
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Speaker 5: is likely to follow up come involved blue hats, Chinese

614
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Speaker 5: military coming in through Canada, probably through the southern border

615
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Speaker 5: as well to subdue these rogue states. And I think

616
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Speaker 5: it's a gameover scenario for the Constitution and a checkmate

617
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Speaker 5: solution or situation for the global elites who are trying

618
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Speaker 5: to overcome the US Constitution by any means necessary.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's all kinds of stuff I want to get

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Speaker 1: to with that. Let's focus on that last part. First,

621
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Speaker 1: overcome the Constitution. Haven't they already though? I mean, look,

622
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Speaker 1: I love the Constitution as much as you do, a

623
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Speaker 1: tremendous founding document.

624
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Speaker 2: But what is it anymore?

625
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Speaker 1: If they've decided that it's trash, that they hate it,

626
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Speaker 1: that they won't follow it anymore, then isn't it just

627
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Speaker 1: a piece of paper?

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Speaker 2: Well?

629
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Speaker 5: I mean, we could say, we could ask the same

630
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Speaker 5: question about the Bible. Is the Bible just a book?

631
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Speaker 5: Just a piece of paper? If there are no Christians

632
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Speaker 5: to stand up to defend it, then what Christians would

633
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Speaker 5: tell you? And I just came from a major pastor's

634
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: conference out in Arizona yesterday, and these men, of course

635
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: are on fire for the Lord, and they're on fire

636
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Speaker 5: for their beliefs. What they would tell you is that

637
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 5: it's time for the Church to be the Church again.

638
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: It's time for Americans therefore, to be Americans again. We

639
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: have to do a revival of constitutional principles, and we

640
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: have to start advocating and fighting for them. We're seeing

641
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 5: some wins in court. It's gone from losing virtually everything

642
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: in court to winning about half of the things in

643
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Speaker 5: court at the federal and appellate court level, and I

644
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: think we have to keep pushing this. We need to

645
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: awaken our judiciary. We need to get our lawyers activated

646
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Speaker 5: and moving and funded to be able to fight against

647
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Speaker 5: entities like the ACLU. And we have to understand that

648
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: they're putting a full court press this year because this

649
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Speaker 5: year is for them everything, and so they're spending down

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Speaker 5: what seems like they're infinite amount of money as fast

651
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Speaker 5: as possible, and they're often discrediting them. So so I

652
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: don't give up faith or hope, but we have to

653
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Speaker 5: have a renewal of our belief in the constitution. And

654
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Speaker 5: it's probably going to have to start with individuals and

655
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Speaker 5: then move to localities, then move to states and work

656
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Speaker 5: its way up.

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Speaker 1: James, why do you say this year is there everything?

658
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I just wanted you to put

659
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: it into words for people. Why are they going all

660
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: in selling out every last bit of credibility they're pushing

661
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: all the chips to the center of the table.

662
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Speaker 5: Why well, partly, there are two main reasons. Partly is

663
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: the obvious reason, which is the election. The election is

664
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: a crucial election for themselves. They understand that if Donald

665
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 5: Trump or some you know, legitimate Republican were to take

666
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: the office of presidency, they're in big trouble. We're awake now.

667
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: We can fight back now, and we can do it legally,

668
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 5: and we can do it with a lot of effectiveness.

669
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Speaker 5: And there are plans and they're freaking out about those

670
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 5: plans to do that. And it looks like, if things

671
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: were allowed to proceed as they are, you know, in

672
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 5: illegal fashion, that Donald Trump is probably going to be

673
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: the president by a landslide. And that's very scary for them.

674
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: But secondly, it's not just that, you know, time is

675
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 5: running out for them, it's that our patience with them

676
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 5: is running out. Like if, for example, let's say that

677
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 5: a bird flies in the window and affects Jesse Kelly

678
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 5: with the next bird flu, and then Jesse Kelly completely organic,

679
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 5: you know, beginnings in this pandemic of a bird flu

680
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: starts this summer. We're going to blame the world Economic farm

681
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: in the United Nations. It doesn't matter about the bird,

682
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: anything really bad that happens, we're going to blame them.

683
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: And they understand that we no longer trust them. We

684
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: trust them not zero, but negative one hundred out of

685
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: one hundred. And so they are at the point where,

686
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: in a sense, as they say, the mask has to

687
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 5: come off. They can't trick people as well anymore. So

688
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: they have to just force it, which means pedal to

689
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: the metal. And it's all hinging on the election coming

690
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: up in November.

691
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad you bring up trust, James, because this actually

692
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: goes back to what where you and I probably do

693
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: disagree in the beginning of I say that we can't

694
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

695
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: You believe we can. And I'm not saying I'm right

696
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: and you're wrong. That's what I believe.

697
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: But it's the trust thing that gets me, James, because

698
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: you can't have a nation where the people don't trust

699
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: their institutions at all. That those two things don't go together. Well,

700
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: if the institutions aren't interested in earning back our trust,

701
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: then how do we get a nation again? Because we

702
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: must merge those two worlds again.

703
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: I look back again to the Civil War. I don't

704
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 5: think that we're going to have a pleasant coming period

705
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 5: of time. Years on the short term is going to

706
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: be very ugly. Decades are going to be very challenging.

707
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: But I think we do have the opportunity to break

708
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: the spell of this cult and to remove its villains

709
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 5: from power. Not easily, but I see the opportunities. They're

710
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 5: backing off from ESG. We've toxicified DEI, the big lawsuits

711
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 5: are coming, It'll get heard by the Supreme Court. They're

712
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 5: getting desperate, and so we have the opportunity to start

713
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: turning our institutions. And I look not just to the

714
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: Civil War, but to the Revolutionary War, where forty percent

715
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 5: of the population on this continent were loyalists and only

716
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 5: three percent were actually full blown patriots that were involved

717
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: in fighting the Revolutionary War and liberating this nation from

718
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: British rule. And so, as a matter of fact, I

719
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 5: think that it doesn't take everybody being on board. It

720
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: takes a few people on board, and then what happens

721
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: is is things move over time in the other direction.

722
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 5: The people who follow the winds as the winds blow

723
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: will follow in that direction as well. I think that

724
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: we actually can have institutional reform. It will take a

725
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: while to earn back the trust and in the meantime

726
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: we're like an airplane that's instruments have gone out, but

727
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: competent pilots could still land such a plane.

728
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you think Red states could survive on their own?

729
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: And I understand about the world getting involved and whatnot, but.

730
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: They are so wealthy and powerful.

731
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: A state like Texas, they have an economy the size

732
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: of Russia's. Of course that it could be its own

733
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: thing if it wanted to be. Again, not cheering for it,

734
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: but economically it definitely could.

735
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's true. There are a couple of issues.

736
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Speaker 5: One is that if it's deemed a rogue actor by

737
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: a very desperate global conglomerate, it's going to be in

738
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: a lot of trouble. It's not going to be a

739
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 5: nice divorce and amical divorce. There's not going to be

740
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 5: the ability for this state to organize itself quickly, to

741
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 5: get itself on its feet. Economically, maybe it's already on

742
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: its feet, but the rest of the politics, foreign relations,

743
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: all of the rest is going to be a big mess.

744
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: But then it's also the fact that Texas is not

745
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: this red monolith. In fact, Texas is a big project

746
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: for the left to flip it blue. Texas's cities. Dallas

747
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: is a disaster, Austin is a disaster, Houston is a disaster.

748
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 5: San Antonio is a disaster. So what's going to happen

749
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: is you've got a very divided, internally divided Texas. And

750
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: so you just take the same game and play it

751
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 5: again internally. And I guarantee you that the sleeper cells

752
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 5: not from coming across the southern border, but that too

753
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: are already there to make sure that the internal agitation

754
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: of a new state of Texas that would say is

755
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 5: independent from the United States is going to be a

756
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 5: serious hot mess. And so the situation for Texas will

757
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: not or anything that seceeds off is not going to

758
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 5: be stable enough to be able to mount the kind

759
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: of defense against the global pressure that it's likely to receive.

760
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Speaker 1: How do you address the fact that people are already

761
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: doing it? I guess that's really one of my main

762
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: arguments is it really doesn't matter whether you support or

763
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: don't support national divorce. It's obviously nobody's going to sit

764
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: down and have an amical divorce and divide things up.

765
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm not naive, but people are already doing it. They

766
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: don't want to live in New York, they don't want

767
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: to live in Hell. They're moving out. They're moving to Florida,

768
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: the moving to Texas. People are voting with their feet.

769
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: You can't stop it. It can't be stopped. What your

770
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: opinion on it is or mind doesn't really matter. They're separating.

771
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I agree. There is definitely what has

772
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: been referred to as a big sort happening in the

773
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 5: United States. Red people are moving toward red things. Blue

774
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: people are also moving toward red things. Blue people are

775
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 5: not moving toward blue things, primarily because blue things suck.

776
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 5: It's just a fact of the matter. They're fleeing, they're

777
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 5: fleeing the catastrophes that they have and bringing their bad

778
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: politics with them, primarily, and that's its own problem that

779
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: reflects on what we're talking about overall. But the fact

780
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: of the matter is that there are a lot of

781
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 5: people who are staying and fighting. We've got Aaron Friday

782
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 5: putting up a ballot initiative to fight back against the

783
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 5: gender and queer theory stuff in California. We've got Gary

784
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 5: Tan who is you know, y combinator guy that is

785
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: basically doing a single handed battle for the city of

786
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: San Francisco and not doing badly. You have groups in

787
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: New York City that are fighting for their city. You

788
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 5: have a Cacagny being the Chinese Americans there in particular

789
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: are doing a fabulous job. And you know, then there

790
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 5: are the grassroots organizations in every blue state that I

791
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: visited that are as fired up as anything, and they

792
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: understand that the writing's on the wall. So some people

793
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: are staying in fighting and the fight that they're putting

794
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: up is actually considerable and admirable. And I don't want

795
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: to discount those people either. So you know, I don't

796
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: want to see a star come off the flag. I

797
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: understand that things are happening, things are moving, but I

798
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 5: don't want to also lose track of the people that

799
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: are putting up the boldest and bravest of the fights,

800
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 5: you know, risking their own children, risking their own futures

801
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: in order to do that in these heavily conquered places.

802
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 5: Just not that it's the US, but Canada is the

803
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 5: same situation. The whole province of Alberta is basically fighting

804
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 5: back now and making a real stand. That's really admirable.

805
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: James, tell me about the Queering of the American Child.

806
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 5: I actually luckily received my own copies today, so I

807
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 5: have like five, and so I can show you a copy.

808
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: The Queering of the American Child is a new book.

809
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 5: It's out now. It's available now and queeringbook dot com

810
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 5: if anybody wants to go have an easy landing page

811
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: for it. The idea was to communicate to parents. It's

812
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: about queer theory. What is it, why is it a cult,

813
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 5: why is it Marxism? And how did it get into

814
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: the schools? And so then it's focused almost entirely on

815
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: the queer theory and critical education theory pipeline into trying

816
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 5: to capture children. The basic summary of the book would

817
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: be that queer theory is a doction of a religious cult.

818
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: That cult is based on sex. It primarily targets children,

819
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 5: It has very little to do with being gay, and

820
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: in fact, it can be stopped, but we have to

821
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: understand it to stop it. And so the book lays

822
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 5: out in easily accessible terms. The other guy that the

823
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 5: main author, Logan Lansing you see on the cover there,

824
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 5: who wrote it wrote it. So that his blue collar

825
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 5: dad would understand every single paragraph, and it is. All

826
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 5: I've heard from people who've read it early is how

827
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 5: easy it is to read, and how it's a true

828
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: page turner. And since I didn't write it, I can

829
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: brag about that. It's really an accessible guide for parents

830
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 5: and grandparents and teachers out there who need to understand

831
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: what's happening in their schools and what's happening to their

832
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 5: children and how they can protect them.

833
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: They can still brag about your own writing, James, I

834
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: do it all the time.

835
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: I reviewed my own book. I thought it was phenomenal.

836
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: Oh, I reviewed this one too. I gave you a blurb.

837
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, James lindsay it is queeringbook dot com. Go get it, James,

838
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: my friend. I appreciate it. All right, final word, last

839
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: word with me?

840
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: Next. All right, let's wrap this up.

841
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't expect you to be happy about this, about

842
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: this special, about everything we just talked about. I'm not

843
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: happy about this. It's hard seeing a new future. It's

844
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: hard letting go of what you've always known, what your

845
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: parents have always known. I don't celebrate it. I think

846
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: it's just terrible. I hate that this is the period

847
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: of time that you and I that we've been given.

848
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: But this is the period of time we've been given. No,

849
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't think my dreams of sitting down and working

850
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: it all out and dividing up the assets and liabilities,

851
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's going to happen. But we

852
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: are separating, just a matter of.

853
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: How and when. All right, all right, we'll do it again.