1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to you 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: climbing in heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: and fun. Okay, so life has been crazier even than usual, actually, 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: if that's possible. Not only is this time of year 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: when school's winding down and there's a million things on 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: the calendar, but I also just celebrated my first born 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: son's thirteenth birthday. I honestly cannot believe Skuy's old enough 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to be a teenager technically, and I have to say 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: it was probably the most extraordinary and heart wrenching, emotionally 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: draining experience. And I would say being a mom is, 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: of course, my absolute most favorite job and favorite thing 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I've ever done. So I wanted to share a little 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: bit with all of you about this big moment and 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: all the fields that go along with it, because I 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: feel like so many of you out there are going 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: through the same thing at different stage pages of your 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: children's lives. Happy Mother's Day, Oh thanks, honey, I say. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: Belated, but soon I am only I am but a 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: fir mom. I am but a firm them nonetheless, not 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: that that's not challenging at times. It definitely can be okay. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: So the title of this week's episode. You and I 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: have been talking about this for a while. I think 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: a lot of our listeners are most likely in the 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: same boat with you. There's a lot of kids that 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: are graduating. Whether you are a parent that's becoming an 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: empty nester and your child's going off to college that's 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: going to be brutal by the way that we're going 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: to medicate you for that, or your child has graduated 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: kindergarten or preschool and is moving on to that phase. 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: It's an emotional time for moms. And your sweet Sky 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: has turned thirteen. Yep. So I wanted to call this 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: episode where Did My Baby Go? Because we know so 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: much about you as a fashion authority, as a stylist, 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: as somebody who's in the public eye for your work 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: in fashion, your work in philanthropy, and you're pretty open 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: about sharing about your family and your children. You show 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: your kids on Instagram. Your kids are intertwined in everything 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: that you do, but you don't talk a lot about parenting, 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: right or the many emotions that come with being a mom. 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: And now you're the mom to a teenage son. So 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about that today, because again, 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: I think it's very relatable for a lot of listeners. 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, I get asked a lot of questions about 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: parenting and what it's like to parent boys. I think 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: because a lot of people even now still look at 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: me walking with my boys and are like, isn't it 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: weird to you that you don't have a daughter? 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: And what's so interesting to me is only just this 50 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: year year did I find total peace with the fact 51 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: that I don't. 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Yes. And I think I've been at peace with for you. Yes. 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: By the way, my mother too, my mother, being the 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: mother of two girls, has always said to me, stop, 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: just stop, because your boys, You've got a good thing going. Yeah, 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: And she was like, you don't realize it yet, because 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: I was too busy like chasing them and like, you know, 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: chasing them to get clothes on, and trying to make 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: them not crack their heads open, and you know, all 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the things which I'm finding, ironically enough, that i'm doing 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: again now because now I'm telling Skyler, like, don't even 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: sit on that bike or that skateboard or anything else, 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: that easy roller without a helmet. But I think what 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm realizing is that the universe gives you exactly what 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: you're meant to have and supposed to have. 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: And my boys are like, I don't know. 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: As I entered this sort of early teenage years, it's 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: all starting to make sense to me why I was given. Yes, 69 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: young little princes, young little men who look for me. 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: They do. 71 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: They look after me. We're best friends. 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: They don't have any resentment towards me because I'm trying 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to make them wear, you know, a dress with a 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: train on a big day, and you know, they want 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: me to tie their ties and button their jackets. And 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, even this mornings, guy's off from school and 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: he was going to a friend's house and he's like, 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: you didn't leave out my clothes, And I'm like, okay, 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: And then part of me is like, can't you put 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: it together? And then you put it together last week 81 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, nope, let me do that for you. 82 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: The stylist is always stylish. Yeah, And you know, listen, 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: I think I think it's hard because this is the year, 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: and this is the time I think for so many 85 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: parents where they jump from being a kid to a 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: teen and I would argue that it's probably the hardest 87 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: time for parents I haven't hid it yet because I 88 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: think Sky is young for his age, for his grade. 89 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: A lot of his friends are almost a year older 90 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: than him, and so on a maturity level and an 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: intellectual level, he's fourteen, but his body's thirteen, yes, and 92 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: so I think he's still a lot very much a kid, 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: which quite frankly, I'm holding on to for dear life totally. 94 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: He still wants me to drive him to school, he 95 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: still wants to hang out with me. But he's incredibly social, 96 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: and I think the hardest thing for parents right now 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: is like on a Sunday when all you want to 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: do is lounge around your house and hang out with 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: your kids, and they're like, I want to go to 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: my friends. I want to go to my friends. My 101 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: friends are meeting here. And I think I remember that 102 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: so well, and I remember my parents taking me in 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: all these nice places, and all I would do is 104 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: sit there being like when can I leave? Right? When 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: can I leave? When can I go out with my friends? 106 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? 107 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: I just want to hang out with my friends. And 108 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: I think as a parent that's the most like heart 109 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: dagger in the heart, dagger in the heart feeling, because 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: you're like, what do you mean, we're a family, don't 111 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: you want to hang out with us? 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: So, like, all I want to do is hang out 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: with you? Right, you just want to hang out with me? Right? 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: And I think I'm at the tail end, I think 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: because this guy still really wants to hang out with us, 116 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: but also really wants to be with his friends. So 117 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: like we're in that moment. But I could see it. 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely going to be it's going to 119 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: be a thing. We're going to switch, and you know, 120 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to find that balance. I think 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: as a parent of being like the cool mom they 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: want to hang out with and have their friends over, 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: and then still be the mom that can like be 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: an authority and discipline and you know, do you. 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: And Roger a good cop? Bad cop? 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always the bad cop. Really, I 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: feel like I'm always the bad cop. I mean, Roger's 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: a bit stronger when he gets mad, you know what 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, he's definitely stronger when he gets mad. 130 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: But I would say I'm a bit more consistent, like 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: with rules and tone, and I do a lot of that. 132 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: I saw meme recently that made me laugh out loud, 133 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: where you like, are you this mom the one that 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: holds their arm and says, don't you dare and you 135 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: talk between your teeth and then you turn to like 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: the waiter and you're like, oh, hi, can I have 137 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: a cappuccino? So I think I'm definitely that mom, yes, 138 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Whereas Roger has no care or awareness for who's around him, 139 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: and he'll just lose a shit if like if Skyler 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: like does something bad and I'm like, you can't do 141 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: that right? 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, but different parenting styles typically or what's best for 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: a kid, because you know, you get different things from 144 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: different parents, do you Is there something that Skyler has abandoned, 145 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Like like a childhood thing he's abandoned that like makes 146 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: you sad, Like a routine thing, a school homework thing, 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: Like he's like he used to always do this and 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't do that anymore. 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Skyler's still, to me, the same silly kid that he's 150 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: always been. Yeah, he's still like, because. 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: My nephew won't like climb in bed with my with 152 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: my brother and sister in law really. 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Anymore, Skyler still will. But he would kill me for 154 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: saying that on this podcast, Like if he listened to 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: climbing and nails. 156 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so sky if you're listening, sorry, he still. 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: But I have to say that my nephew's twenty seven 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: will also still like he's a cuddler. We're a family 159 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: of like warm people. 160 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: Definitely. 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure Kaius is going to cuddle 162 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: us till he's till I'm gone. Yeah, like till I 163 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: am gone from the planet eyes. He's going to Laus 164 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: is what we used to call him. 165 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Yes, he's attached to your body. Well, I want to 166 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the party that you threw 167 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: for Skyler, because it was a wedding, a wedding, it 168 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: was extraordinary. It was so much fun and it was 169 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: no one will ever forget. But it was also a 170 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: very sentimental and touching experience. So all of your family 171 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: travel to be there, all of Roger's family traveled to 172 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: be there, several friends traveled from out Oftown to be 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: at this celebarration, and it really was I feel like 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: knowing Skuyler, you know, twelve eleven of those thirteen years, 175 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of him and how he carried himself 176 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: crushed it, how like strong he was and confident he was, and. 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: He said he kept looking out at the audience, and 178 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: he was so nervous, even though he did not seem 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: at all over us. He just kept smiling. And I'm 180 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: starting to think maybe his smile is like his nerve, yes, 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: because it was the biggest smile I had ever seen 182 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: with him. 183 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: Can I also tell you something that I was like, 184 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: I was so pleased with myself because where I was 185 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: sitting during part of this party, I was towards the 186 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: front because I was obviously took a ver of every moment, 187 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: and Skyler kept like looking towards the side I was 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: sitting on and smiling, and I was like, oh my god, 189 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: he sees emmy, he sees me. He's so oh my god, 190 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: he's smiling. And then I heard like a little snicker 191 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: snicker or something, and I heard a giggle and I 192 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: heard it whatever, and I totally forgot. 193 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: His friends were Skyler's entire friend group was behind me, 194 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: so he for sure was like. 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: Smiling and making little goofy faces that his friends, not 196 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: me at all. 197 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Yes, he was. 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: It's like when someone goes to high five you and 199 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: they're actually high fiving the person behind. Oh my god, 200 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: I was like, Auntie Burn. 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: Nope, I think he was looking right at you, like, 202 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: em are you so proud of me? 203 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: I think there was like one moment where he was like, oh, 204 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: Emmy's still recording, Like I'll give her a smile. But no, 205 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: it was very funny because I was like, oh my god, 206 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm such an idiot. Like his entire friend group is 207 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: sitting directly behind me. 208 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: He said that he went to He said that he 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: looked at everyone in the audience as potatoes. 210 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: So not we don't do their naked anymore, you say 211 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: their potato. For a thirteen year old to picture everyone 212 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: naked would be I think traumatizing, traumatizing and hilarious. 213 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to see everyone naked. That 214 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: absolutely never worked for me. No, I actually think that 215 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: would make me break down more on. So, I don't 216 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: know who ever thought of that there's potatoes as good. 217 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: I guess there's some psychological thing of like, oh, if 218 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: people are naked, they're vulnerable too, so you can like 219 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: match the vulnerability of the audience you're speaking to. 220 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: But like or if they're potatoes, then they all look 221 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: the same. 222 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't know. I mean, I guess 223 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: it worked for Skyler. I'm done It definitely worked for 224 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: him because he was cool as a cucumber. Seemingly he 225 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: did such a beautiful job. 226 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Beach was great. 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: He gave the most lovely. 228 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: Speech, beautiful, so beautiful. 229 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: I however, yeah, well let's get into that. So rewind 230 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: a little bit. Kaius also got up. Oh my god, 231 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: he was so Rachel's ten year old got up and 232 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: gave it a speech, and he was so well spoken. 233 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: He paced himself so great. Skyler Skyler Skyler. Yeah, that's 234 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: Kyia is his new thing. Rachel and I were saying, 235 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 2: we were laughing because he does the thing where when 236 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: he's gonna talk about Skyley goes Skyler Skyler Skyler, and 237 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: it's like it's like an old man say. 238 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: Like he's eighty five years old, Like what do I 239 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: even do with you? 240 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: Like he's so overwhelmed with this, the amount of things 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: you can say. 242 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: Skyler calling out his brother in a speech and saying 243 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: like kai Is, You're my favorite person in the world. Yeah, 244 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: that made me die. 245 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: It really is special and unique that you're raising two 246 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: boys pretty close in age. 247 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 248 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they really are besties. 249 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: They're obsessed. They missed each other when they're apart. 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: That's so wonderful, wild and rare. 251 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: I was not like that with my sister. 252 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like the age gap, like I feel 253 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: like parents think about this maybe when they're playing family, 254 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: they do about how much space we put between each child. 255 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: And I think you really did it correctly because they 256 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: do have very independent friend groups. They do they don't bleed, 257 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: which causes sometimes conflict and strength. Like my sister never 258 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: only a greater part. I can't even We shared a 259 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: lot of friends, so there's a lot of drama that 260 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: comes with that. 261 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Some guy's friends deal with that, like his competitives that 262 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: are brothers can fight over friends. 263 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think also the age gap between Kius 264 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: and Skyler is like perfect. And I mean Kyus crushed 265 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: his speech. He was so cute and charming and he's 266 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: if you can picture him. He's in like a three 267 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: piece suit with like a black silk tie and his 268 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: hair is like perfectly cold. He literally looks like a 269 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: little Wall Street Oh my god. 270 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: And he hit his hand in his pocket. That's his 271 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: new thing. Yeah, hand in pocket, like when little boys 272 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: have their hand in their trouser pocket and they talk 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: to you, Like, all I see is this Like older 274 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: business man like, yeah, trying to talk to people and 275 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here like you have such swagger. 276 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: Right now, like, hell did my baby go? Yeah, we 277 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: have to also talk about I want to get into 278 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: your speech. But Roger crushed his speech, just Guyl like. 279 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Roger gave one of the best speeches he's given in 280 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: the thirty two years that I know him. I think 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: that might have been in the top three. 282 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: And he's had some real, real doozy speeches days. He 283 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: did an amazing one at your birthday party a few 284 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: years ago. He did a milestone birthday. He did an 285 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: amazing one for your parents seventy It was my parents 286 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: seventy five and eighty five and eighty. Yeah, so Rogers, 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: He's had a lot of high pressure family speeches in 288 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: his life. Really, this one probably the most important for him, 289 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: and he crushed it. 290 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how he did that. 291 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: He was funny, he was emotional, he was. 292 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Very serious about the right times. Yeah, serious at the 293 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: right times. Funny, yeah, it was all the things. I 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: don't know how he did it. Because I wrote something 295 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: at four am on the morning Earth because I don't 296 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: typically use a speech ever, I was just writing it 297 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: so that if I fell apart, I would have something 298 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: to fall on, right, which in hindsight really needed right 299 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: And oh god, I mean it was awful. 300 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: This story goes back a little bit because I found 301 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: out about a week before this party that Rachel for 302 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: many years has been carrying a little bit of trauma 303 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: around speaking at this kind of event with evently with family, 304 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: and that she herself, when she was thirteen, was doing 305 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: the same type of speech and was so choked up 306 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: when she started talking about her relationship to her sister 307 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: Pamela that she got a knot in her throat, couldn't 308 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: finish the speech and had to tag Pamela in and 309 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: finish her speech. 310 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: True story. 311 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: So you have been carrying this, which is wild to me, 312 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: and it's anybody's psychological who knows you because you speak 313 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: publicly all the time we're on your podcast. 314 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I know I could speak in front of twenty thousand people. 315 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I could speak. I think the most ever spoke in 316 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: front of was in Vegas at this thing. I think 317 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: you were with me, Emmi, where I've showed up at 318 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: this big thing to do a public. 319 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Panel, like a convention. 320 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Panel, and I think I thought it was like two 321 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: thousand people and it was like ten yeah, and I 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: was like it was massive, and I just remember doing 323 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that and not being nervous and like yet there was 324 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: in front of like two hundred people and I literally. 325 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Learn that part was like even more intimate. 326 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't so Rachel, I couldn't get it out, was 327 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: feeling emotional. 328 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: She was with Roger and did did in fact tag Pamela, 329 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: and again I just I. 330 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: Read her speech to Skyler, I started crying. From the 331 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: minute I walked in the room. I had cried about 332 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: twelve times prior, so I think I was already like 333 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: I was already the very fine crystal glass that is 334 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: garathin and if you tap it it will break. 335 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: I already was that. 336 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: So I think once Skuyler started speaking with that big 337 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: smile and blue eyes, I just collide. It was done. 338 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: It's over, and that was the end of that story. 339 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: What if you could pinpoint what makes you literally start 340 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: the waterworks, what makes you get the lump in the 341 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: throat and the eyes start to well up. 342 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I cannot believe my child is I can't believe that 343 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: that little baby that was like in my hand, that 344 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: changed my life and in reality, like my boys. 345 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: Arm my life. 346 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that any parent knows there is 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: this like paralyzing, polarizing love that parents feel for their 348 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: children to a point where like you love them so 349 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: much it hurts. And I think my relationship with my 350 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: kids is so deep, and so I almost never fight 351 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: with them. They're such beautiful kids, Like they're such beautiful 352 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: little souls, and so what happens is when they say 353 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: these things to me, it almost makes you just break further. Right, So, 354 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: as beautiful as it is, I was already so emotional 355 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: not to mention all the things that went wrong leading 356 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: up to the event. So like, don't forget, thirty minutes 357 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: before I was going out there in front of everyone, 358 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: my dress wasn't at the hotel, it was at my house. 359 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: Guys, Rachel left her dress. 360 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: I left my dress at the house. I also left 361 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Skyler's bow tie. I left Kais took stylist to the stock. 362 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: I can't cannot style her family left her or herself 363 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: for that matter. 364 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: No, I mean we were the emotions are definitely so 365 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: definitely right. I think I was fragile. 366 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't think I had slept in a couple of 367 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: weeks so I think I think the adrenaline, the emotion, 368 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: the fragility, the love, the my father, my mother getting 369 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: up and speaking. My parents are eighty three and almost 370 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: eighty seven, so like they had only ever wanted to 371 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: be here for my kid, first guy to turn thirteen. 372 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: So I feel like when they got up to speak, 373 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: I get so emotional there. So every single thing was 374 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: a pylon to how I was feeling, and I typically 375 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: can start speaking yes in this situation. I think after 376 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Roger's speech and after Skyler, after Caius grabbed my hand 377 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: when he saw me welling up and said, crying is 378 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: not a sign of weakness. It's a sign that you've 379 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: been strong for too long. Oh my god, says my 380 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: profound ten year old says Aristotle says over Astotle, Well, 381 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: then I just cried more, and so I just h 382 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: It's almost like I had to just surrender rather than 383 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: standing up there trying to get a word out of 384 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: my body. I just I just yeah, it wouldn't come out. 385 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have stold everyone for much longer. 386 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I surrendered. 387 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think to touch on a part of 388 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: your speech too, I think for people who maybe don't 389 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: know you as well, talking about the importance that becoming 390 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: a mother that happened obviously with sky doubled down with Caius, like, 391 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: it really saved your life in a way and changed 392 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: the pace at which you were living that could have 393 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: ultimately been really really detrimental. 394 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Percent Well, it was detrimental. 395 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: And I think that you're already fighting vertigo. I mean 396 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: you your body was already going through an enormous amount 397 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: of ye breakdown from the schedule that you were keeping, 398 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: when you were styling, when you had the show, when 399 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: you were at every fitting, at every red carpet, and 400 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: then you you found out you were expecting Skylar, and 401 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: everything kind of halted. Laser focus. Well, I think I. 402 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Think what happens is sometimes like the universe makes a 403 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: decision for you that you wouldn't have made for yourself. 404 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: And that's probably the greatest lesson I've learned over my life, 405 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: over my professional life, over my personal life, quite frankly, Yeah, 406 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: that sometimes there's something that needs to be done that 407 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: you can't pull the trigger on. Yeah. And I think 408 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: my career was in such a high, highly regarded place, 409 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: highly the stakes were very high. I was making an 410 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: exorbitant amount of money. Yes, I was working with probably 411 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: the most famous people in the world, from Brad Pitt 412 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: to Cameron Diaz to you know, An Hath. I mean, 413 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: it just goes on and on. And I think there 414 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: was so much pressure on me to perform, quite like, 415 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: to be the best at what I was doing. And 416 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: QUIT think that I always put that pressure on myself. 417 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't really someone saying you better be the best. 418 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: You know, but no one can really understand when you're 419 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: in these situations and people are paying you so much money. 420 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: There's so many big decision makers. You're working for the 421 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: most powerful people in the industry on all sides the 422 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: photographers that ultimately that balancing act without children is mental. 423 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 2: Right and it's too much without a family, correct. 424 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: And I think for me, I was going at such 425 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: a fast pace that I don't it was just what 426 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: I was doing. It was a seven day a week, 427 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: it was twenty four hours a day. I was flying 428 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: all over the world. I wasn't sleeping. I think I'm 429 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: someone who I don't let people down ever, and that's 430 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: a big thing for me, and that can be detrimental. 431 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: And I think I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm going 432 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: of kids I'm going of kids. 433 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm going of kids later next year, Extra next Dora 434 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: next year, and all of a sudden, you know, and 435 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: so yes, I got very sick. In two thousand and nine, 436 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I got vertigo, which basically was like the most polarizing thing. 437 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: I was fainting and fitting so I was laying down 438 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: in cars. I couldn't sit in restaurants, I couldn't fly. 439 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: It was insane. And then later shortly after that, I 440 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: got pregnant with Sky and I didn't really skip a beat. 441 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: I just kept working. I even worked up until the 442 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: very end. I styled Anne Hathaway for when she hosted 443 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: the Oscars, and we did I think ten outfits plus 444 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: red carpet. I had bronchitis in a sinus infection. I 445 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: was doing like three weeks, I think something like that, 446 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: and it's just what had to be done. It wasn't 447 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: like it was I loved my job, I loved my clients, 448 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: but I think I just wasn't loving myself. I never 449 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: stopped to be like, hey, this may not be good 450 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: for you right now. You know, you maybe shouldn't do 451 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: this right, And I just kept doing it. And so 452 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: then I was like I don't kind of a baby. 453 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't a time, a shower, And so I think 454 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: when I had Sky, you know, I think the love 455 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: for him and then Caius, I think that just flip 456 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: me upside down and backwards in every possible way. And 457 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I think I think it immediately made my decision making clearer, 458 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: right and easier. And I think for a lot of parents, 459 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: I think that we're similar. I know, I personally have 460 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: probably a handful of girlfriends that were the same and 461 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: had kids, and you know, now they work from home, 462 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: now they take their kids. 463 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's like you figure it out. 464 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: But I think, at least for me, I think about 465 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: what would have happened if I didn't become a mother, right, 466 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: and something bigger than me, yeah, like didn't take over, 467 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: Like what would it have been my priorities at my 468 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: heart and what I wanted to do and my perspective on. 469 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like what are you working for? 470 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Like you know exactly. 471 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: It's like I feel like it gives you such a 472 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: different outlook, like what you're building and you know who 473 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: you're doing it all for. 474 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, kids are soul sucking, like 475 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: financially draining, Yeah, exhausting, but yet the greatest love you'll 476 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: ever know. Yeah, the greatest love you will ever know. 477 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: And that is why sometimes it's hard to give a 478 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: speech right exactly why. 479 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: But I was upset with myself. I was really upset 480 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: with myself at the party because I was like, how 481 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: could you suck that bad? 482 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: I know you were beating yourself up. 483 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, how could I How could I not deliver 484 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: a speech at at my son's like permits. 485 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's like know thyself and you knew you couldn't. 486 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: Like Rachel was practicing when she was in glam and 487 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: she got the fus out and she was like, even 488 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: do this, And I was like, if you can't do it, 489 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fine. Like everyone there is close enough 490 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: to you, it knows you well enough. It goes like, 491 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: this isn't some shtick, This is really this is really 492 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: a situation where there won't be words coming out of 493 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: your mouth. And also like, she's not a girl a 494 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: few words. No, it's just not quiet someone who doesn't talk. No, 495 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: I've never, like, like you said, when have I ever 496 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: seen you speechless? Like never? 497 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: Never? So never. 498 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, But it was even though that was the case, 499 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: Pamela delivered your speech beautifully. Everyone was very touched. It 500 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: was great, funny, too amazing. And then it was party time. 501 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, it was party. It was 502 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: a time central. 503 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Yes, it was. 504 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 2: It was so fun. I have not been around a 505 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: group of thirteen year olds in a long time or 506 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: in years. When I tell you the level of hype 507 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: I would describe they like, I mean, I I don't 508 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: like mash pit kind of culture. 509 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: Did you see them holding Sky over their heads? Yes, 510 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: that gave me a panic attack. I missed it. 511 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: So I saw it on video. Gyler was crowdsurfing and 512 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: oh is that what that saying? Yeah, and like the 513 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: we're so excited. It's really it's fun to watch. It's 514 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: really fun to watch because they really let let the 515 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: person shine. I feel like they really made Sky I 516 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: feel really special. And it was just really energetic, Like 517 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: they have so much energy still, I'm like, oh my god, 518 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: please bottle it and share it with the rest of us. 519 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: So the thirteen year olds were like jumping up and down, 520 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: listening to hip hop and just vibing. I guess as 521 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: they would say. And then there's caius So at the party. 522 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Rachel had the genius idea of having casino games. 523 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: An led casino games led in the room. 524 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: So a lot of the adults, I will say after 525 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: the cocktail hour were around the casino games. I won't 526 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: drop names, but a lot of the adults that Rachel's 527 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: friends with were like, very excited to see that there 528 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: was casino games. I don't think anyone expected for Caius 529 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: to spend the majority of the evening at a blackjack table. 530 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: It's true he did. 531 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: Caius was learning the rules of blackjack at the age 532 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: of ten. 533 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: Was I think he loved the roulette. 534 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: He loved roulette, he loved I mean he literally there's 535 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: photos of Caius with aviator glasses on, by the way, 536 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 2: which is hilarious. By himself, he looks like he is 537 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: a professional poker player, or because he's in his suit, 538 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: he's wearing sunglasses and he's sitting at a blackjack table. 539 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: Truth, it was hilarious. 540 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: He's the one. 541 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's Roger. 542 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: He's Roger. He's Roger. Yeah. 543 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Like they love numbers, they love they love that whole thing. Yeah, 544 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: they just love it. Like you would never find me 545 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: at a casino table. Yeah, I just like dance floor. 546 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: Yes, if I have money, I'm gonna keep it, you know, 547 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: not a gambler. And I also don't love numbers, so 548 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 2: like I'll like win one hand and be like I'm 549 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: walking away. 550 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: By the way, I also don't win, right, I'm not. 551 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't you feel like the luck isn't on your side. 552 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: I just I'm not that person. I'm the person that 553 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have their dress thirty minutes before they wear it 554 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: they're supposed to wear it. Yep. 555 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: That's more my jam yep. And Skyler's bow ties. Yeah, 556 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: also that can't forget that. What was your favorite part 557 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: about the party, the actual the like, the like dancing, 558 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: just the dancing. 559 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: I think for me like looking around the room and 560 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: seeing all the people I love. Yeah, in my family, 561 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: my closest friends, the friends that have known sky since 562 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: he was born, you know who went through my journey 563 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: with me, who know my family well. And so for me, 564 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: I think that is the best thing because I find 565 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: you can be in the nicest place to have a party. 566 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: You can spend a gajillion dollars on an event, yep. 567 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: And if the love and the emotion isn't in the 568 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: room and the person is not adored then like it's 569 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: just another event and I feel like flat, yeah, falls flat, 570 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: and I think, like we left there and everybody I 571 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: got like a hundred texts the next night and day 572 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: just being like there was so much love in the room. 573 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I cried the whole time. I danced the whole night 574 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: or I you know, just and for me, that's like 575 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: the win. I just want everyone to have the best time. 576 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: And that's when I relax. Yes, And everybody's like, when 577 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: are you going to breathe? I'm like, I'm going to 578 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: breathe when I see sky on stage with a mic 579 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: and having the time of his life, and I'm happy, 580 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: right And when I know that my dad is on 581 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: the dance floor, you know, and he's flirting with all 582 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: my girlfriends. 583 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: Ronnie loves to dance. 584 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: He loves to dance, and he's almost eighty seven years old. 585 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: And god, Skyler was so nervous he was going to 586 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: get mashed in the mashpet Oh gosh, I know. 587 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: I know. He's like, Mommy, watch Papa, Well, I saw 588 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: you nearly get trampled. Thank god Roger moved you just 589 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: in the nick of time. But Rachel almost got absolutely 590 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: not maliciously by any means. But a group of kids 591 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: were moving and Rachel almost got knocked over. That's also 592 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: why I don't go to concerts. Oh that makes sense. 593 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: That definitely makes me. You're a mash fit. It's never 594 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: a good thing, no, no, no. But the party was epic, 595 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: like you said, the love in the room was palpable, 596 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: and it was just a good, positive, joyful event. 597 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear everybody's questions about parenting and emotion 598 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: and how to deal with things, because I do find 599 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: when I do ask me anything on my social I 600 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: get so many parenting questions. Yeah, And I think, like 601 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: we're all navigating this together. And I will say this, 602 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: every kid is different, yes, and every parent is different, 603 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: and every relationship is different. But I do think we 604 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: all deal with the same things at different intervals, and 605 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: I think we. 606 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: All have to, like we just have to stay together, 607 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. 608 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: And I think, whether I know you or not, whether 609 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: it's our friends, whether it's our families, Like you know, 610 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I think we're all trying to find that balance of 611 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: being our kid's best friends, being an authority, yes, being 612 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: a safe place yep, having them tell us everything. 613 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: But then don't freak out. 614 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and sky so far still tells me 615 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: everything and I don't want that to change. 616 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like, at some. 617 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: Point he's not going to tell me everything right, and 618 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: that might be a okay, but like, but we have 619 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: to learn to trust. 620 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's your biggest advice for parents going through 621 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: any sort of like change or transition with their child 622 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: in terms of age or school or life. 623 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: Don't judge, don't judge them. Don't judge them. It's really 624 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: hard because Skyler has that terrible hair that all of 625 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: his friends have right now. And as someone who like 626 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: just wants to see his face, Yes, because and by 627 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: the way, did you see how he pulled through in 628 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: the end? 629 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: I tell me it was sweet thing. 630 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Ever, and that's it's the little wins, to be honest, 631 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: And that was such a good example for me of 632 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: like how to deal with your relationship with your teen Yes, 633 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: because I know as someone who was such a teen 634 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: that if my mom said don't wear black, the only 635 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: thing I would wear is black. 636 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd also put your nails black hundred percent. 637 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: So then I find with sky I'm very gentle with 638 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: my asks. But then if he doesn't. I'm sort of like, sky, 639 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: come on for me, like please, we just push your 640 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: hair out of your eyes for this night. Yeah, and 641 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: then when you get on the dance floor, put your 642 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: fluffy hair and cover your eyes. That's fine. And for 643 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: six months he was like no, no, no, no no no 644 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: no no, I don't want to do that, like da 645 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: da da. Five minutes before the service, five minutes before 646 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: that kid pushed his hair out of his eyes and 647 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: to the side, and he's gonna hate it. I wanted 648 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: to push it up so it looked a little more 649 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: like Chris Hemsworth, but he wouldn't let me come at it. 650 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to tease it. 651 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: I want you to touch it. 652 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I want me to touch it. So he had to 653 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: do it. And in hindsight, he's gonna be like, mom, 654 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: you made me wear a nerdy side part. I'd be like, no, 655 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: you actually made the nerdy side part. Wouldn't let me 656 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: push it up. But whatever, we saw his beautiful face, 657 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: we saw his beautiful eyes, and he did his mom 658 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: assaulid solid and not to me. That also made me cry, 659 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: just so you know, that was almost worse because if 660 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I had gone and mad at him, it would have 661 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: been easier for me not to cry, sure, but I 662 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, he did the right thing. 663 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna cry more. So I do think we 664 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: have to. 665 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: I think it's very much on us how we communicate, 666 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: how we hold our judgments, whether it's about what they're wearing, 667 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: what they're eating, what their hair looks like, what their 668 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: nails like, oh whatever, who their friends are. There was 669 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids. I was telling Sky not to 670 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: hanging out within the beginning of the year. I said, 671 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: you're going to get associated with these kids and their 672 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: trouble kids. 673 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: Yep. 674 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: He's like, Mom, they're really nice, they're just not parented 675 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: very much. Lo and behold. Six months later, he's like, 676 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: you're right. Yep, you're right, Mom, You're always right. But 677 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: I had to figure it out myself, and I said, Okay, 678 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: that's fair. 679 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you. 680 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: You can take it or not. 681 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: Right, but I'm going to support you and I not 682 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: judge you. 683 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I think as parents we have to somehow maintain being 684 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: their safe person and making sure they very clearly understand 685 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: and that the truth will save them, and that we 686 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: are their safe person no matter how we feel about 687 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing. I think with mental health being so 688 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: horrific right now, the state of it fourteens especially, Yeah, 689 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: we have to maintain our judgment and relationships and make 690 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: our kids feel safe and heard no matter what we think, 691 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: and whatever we think, we can vent it to our 692 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: safe people behind closed doors. But like to your kids, 693 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: it's all good. Tell me, share me. I'm going to 694 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: help you. I'm going to fix it. 695 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: Safe person, hold your judgment. 696 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's the techoe and I think that's the teenage formula. 697 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's also the reason why the universe gave 698 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: you boys. I think it's way easier for you to 699 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: hold your judgments because you. 700 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Have two boys, girl more and more. 701 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Yes, well, you talked about ask Rachel, and I had 702 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: a couple questions come in, so I thought we would 703 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: jump to that to close out the episode today. This 704 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: question actually came in twice, which made me laugh, and 705 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: I once I read it and then looked, I was like, Oh, interesting, 706 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: two people, where is Goldie Sunshine. We haven't seen her 707 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: in a bit. 708 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh, she's here, she's here, She's here and vibrant. 709 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: And I guess you haven't posted Goldie in a minute. 710 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: And the Goldie Sunshine fans are like, God, where is 711 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: the Queen? 712 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: I've been so focused on my kids I have I've 713 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: had my eight hundred jobs and my children. Okay, I 714 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: will share more Goldie Sunshine. And so she is alive 715 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: and well and furry and kicking. 716 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: She got groomed today. Actually she looks gorgeoup. 717 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: She gets her hair blown every Wednesday. 718 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: I love that. God, she's a deve. Okay. Next question, 719 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 2: if you could only wear one designer for the rest 720 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: of your life, who would it be? 721 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: For? 722 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: Like everything? Formal, casual, fitness, fitness, well, you know, fitness, 723 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: like you know. 724 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: It's different though for evening, you know, for evening. 725 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: But you can only pick one. 726 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: Valentino, maybe Chanel, Chanel, It's probably still I'm still Chanel. 727 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm still Chanel to be honest, Yeah, I'm Chanel. 728 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. 729 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: But it provided includes archives. 730 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh so the full run okay, so yeah, the full 731 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 2: that's ever been created. 732 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Penelope Cruise gallons and stuff. 733 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, And the last question was a 734 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: beauty question. What's your favorite eye shadow right now? 735 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: I have a few, honestly, I love Pat McGrath. Yeah, 736 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: pot McGrath. I shadow palettes are really really beautiful and 737 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: they stay on and they're very pigmented and they have 738 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: a lot of pigment and they're very velvety, and I 739 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: love velvety. I don't like dry makeup products like they 740 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: go on very smooth like I do. Yeah, it's it's 741 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: more it's a powder, but it's very like it's not rich. Yeah, 742 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: and it goes on very smooth and not like it 743 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: just blends really nicely and it has some sparkle. And 744 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: I love the colors. In terms of liners, Victoria backroom 745 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: liners are my favorite. I have every single color. 746 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: I know you really do. 747 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: You turned me on to those, like the multi use 748 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: like I like using it as a shadow. Like I 749 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: can carry one Victoria backroom liner and use it in 750 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: the waterline under and then on the lid to like 751 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: smudge it out and smoke it out. And that's why 752 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: I like it, because it's velvety. 753 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: And the pencils have a great smudgeer on it. I do. 754 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 2: It's good, great smudge. 755 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 756 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: Well that was our ask rat jel. Well, Happy belated 757 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 2: Mother's Day to all the moms out there, all the 758 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 2: maternal energy, step moms, all of the kind of moms 759 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: that are celebrating, and I guess congratulations to all of 760 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: the graduates or all of the. 761 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Prom graduates, elementary, all of cool. 762 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: Call the events that people have going on, congratulate, Congratulations 763 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 2: to tunes. 764 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to Climbing in Heels. 765 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: If you haven't already, please subscribe on the show to 766 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the iHeart app, or wherever you get 767 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: your podcasts, so don't miss a single episode this season, 768 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: and be sure to follow me on Instagram at at 769 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: rachel Zo and the show at Climbing in Heels pod 770 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: for the latest episodes and updates. 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