1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Nesbitt is here. You can catch all of his 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: articles in The Athletic and give him a follow at 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Stephen Jay and has bit on Twitter. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Stephen, good to see you. Hows everything good guys? 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 3: How you guys doing. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. 7 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with the column you put together with Chad 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Jennings on contender schedules. The rest of the way we 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: obsess over schedules for these last few weeks. We do 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: it all the time. I get to read the schedules out, 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: what do you think? What did you write about? 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an exercise we started last year where 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 4: I find, as a fan growing up, like you're very 14 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 4: aware of your team's schedule and it matters deeply to 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: you when you get into the stretch run. And yet 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: it's pretty hard to keep track of what everybody's schedule live, 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 4: and so we tried to limit it to the teams 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: that have a realistic shot of the postseason. And this 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: was looking at the next two weeks. We'll do it 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: again in two more weeks and have the last two 21 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: weeks of the regular season and sort of a bite 22 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: sized way to look ahead and say, Okay, we're trailing 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: this team. By two games in the standings, but our 24 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: schedule looks a lot easier coming up. Let's take advantage 25 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: of this stretch and then maybe they'll have a hard 26 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: time moving forward. It's a good way to see that. Okay, 27 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: the Padres have a super easy schedule the rest of 28 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 4: the way, The Dodgers have an easy schedule. The Yankees 29 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: are gonna go through it right now, and then it 30 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: gets easy after that that. 31 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: The Tigers have a little. 32 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: Bit of a couple of tough series of the Mets 33 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: and Yankees coming up. So I find it as a 34 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: fun way to in sort of the dog days of 35 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: August and September, look ahead a little bit and consider 36 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: what we have coming up next. 37 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: Okay, So then I'll ask, can anybody outside the playoffs 38 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: use their schedule to their advantage to make a run 39 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: and get in the Rangers, the Royals, or someone having 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 5: a tough schedule like maybe the Mariners having a tough 41 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: schedule or the Mets having a tough schedule to make 42 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: a run and get back into this thing. 43 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 44 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: The playoff picture, unfortunately, is like pretty sewn up at 45 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: this point. I think the Rangers have a shot, and 46 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: that's probably it. I don't think the Guardians. I don't 47 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: think the Royals are probably gonna gonna make the run. 48 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: You know, the Mariners are certainly susceptible, and so if 49 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: we look at who they have coming up this live, 50 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: they got a tough road, right the Rays, Braves, Cardinals, Angels. 51 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, they have a good road. It's to the 52 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: wrong color here. The Mayor's a very friendly schedule the 53 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: next two weeks and one of the more friendly schedules 54 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: the rest of the way. 55 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: And if you look at the. 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: Rangers, they have Diamondbacks, Astros, good team, Brewers really good team, 57 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: Mets good team, and so that's a much tougher next 58 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: two weeks. I think we're seeing the twelve teams that 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: are going to get in. At this point, the National 60 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: League get not really a contest. I think the closest 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: team is the Reds, and there are maybe four back 62 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: of the Mets at this point. So I think we 63 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: have our playoff field essentially set. But we've been fool before, 64 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: even last year with the way the Mets and Tigers 65 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: closed things. 66 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Out thanks thanks to Scott. 67 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 5: Scott thinks the White Sox are getting in this year 68 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 5: because amis scheduled So thanks for because I asked this 69 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: question earlier on Twitter, so Scott. Scott said the White 70 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: Sox were in possibly because their schedule lightens up. 71 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know. I thank you, Steven. 72 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: With banana ball, they're in. 73 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: You can eighty nine games in one game, and don't 74 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: say that. 75 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 5: Because banana ball is legit. Banana ball is legit. All right, 76 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna switch topics here a little bit. As a 77 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 5: left handed hitter, you talked about Roman Anthony and how 78 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 5: they let him hit off lefties except for the first 79 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: game of his career where they pinch hit for him 80 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: against the lefty. Since then, they've let him hit. He's learned, 81 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: he's doing better. I know his numbers aren't as great. Listen, 82 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 5: no lefty is ever gonna hit as good against lefties 83 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 5: as they do against right He's no. There might be 84 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 5: a guy, okay, I know overall, okay, just because you 85 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: don't see him as much, it's a tougher matchup, all 86 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: that stuff, right, But what have the Red Sox learned 87 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 5: by letting him do this? And why aren't other teams 88 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: doing this? Like the Orioles with Jackson Holiday, they were 89 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 5: like I can't hit lefties right, and then all these 90 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: other teams like, oh, automatically, it's like platoon, platoon, platoon. 91 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: So what are the Red Sox showing the rest of 92 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: the league. 93 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a I think a very 94 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: unfortunate trend since I started covering baseball in twenty fourteen 95 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen is the prevalence of the platoon. No one 96 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: likes to see it. The players certainly don't like to see. 97 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: They fear it when they come up. They don't want 98 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: to turn into a platoon guy. And especially left handed 99 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: hitters are so susceptiblely getting pulled out, even if the 100 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: manager calls it a rest day, it's effectively the same thing. 101 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: You're shieldium from a left handed pitcher, often the very 102 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: best ones in the league, and you're hoping that one 103 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: of these guys that's a right hander who just excels 104 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: against opposite handed pitching. You know, your Rob Ruth Sneinder 105 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: is your Miguel Andrew Hars can come in off the 106 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: bench and spell that lefty. And I think it's extremely unfortunate. 107 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: I think you guys would have something to say about 108 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: this as well, but as well, but I understand what 109 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: the numbers say. I also understand, having just written about this, 110 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: how good left handed pitching is right now. This is 111 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: the best we've seen it compared to right handed pitching. 112 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: The lefty era across the league is three point eight, 113 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: the right era is four point three to one. It's 114 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 4: not particularly close. 115 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: Right now. 116 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: This is the largest golf we've ever seen in the 117 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: era era, which is going back to nineteen thirteen when 118 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: became an official stat And so lefty pitching is so 119 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: good right now, and left on left is as hard 120 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: as ever been. But the other thing we wrote about 121 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: in that story a couple of weeks back is right 122 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: on left ain't good either. The platoon split is basically 123 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: vanished for right handed hitters. Alex Bregman had good thoughts 124 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: on that they're getting pitched differently, and guys have more pitches, 125 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: they're throwing harder from the left side, they're willing to 126 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: go to different areas come inside on the right handed hitter. 127 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: So listen, if there's ever you know a time you're 128 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: going to give left handed batters a chance to actually 129 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: face both hands, I think it's right now. Let them 130 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: show they can do something, because if you are not 131 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: going to let them face that lefty. The one time 132 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: you face a lefty'll, you know, this week a left 133 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: handed starter. Good luck when you get to the postseason 134 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: and need Roman Anthony to face, you know, Tanner Scott 135 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: or one of these Yankees left handed starters. You need 136 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: these guys to have experience facing top level left handeds. 137 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: They're not facing them on the miners. And so that 138 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: was what this story came out of, was a conversation 139 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: I had with Roman Anthony, who I thought was so 140 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: smart on this topic, so thoughtful on it, where he said, 141 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: you know, the miners. My breakout year in twenty twenty three, 142 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: he won Red Sox Minor League Hitter of the Year. 143 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: And yet he did it batting I think like two 144 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: fifteen or so against lefties. He's like, my numbers like 145 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: hit it. They obscured the fact that I couldn't hit lefties. 146 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: And so I spent that whole offseason facing lefty pro 147 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: hitters down in South Florida where he's from, facing every 148 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: sort of angle pitching machine, the traject like everything that 149 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: was at his disposal. He went after it to try 150 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: to get better against lefties because he hadn't faced like 151 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: any of us. He didn't face any as a kid 152 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: and has been great against lefties ever since. And so 153 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: when he came up, the Red Sox were thinking they 154 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: would probably use him part time against lefties. And he 155 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: had some awful starts right he struck up four times 156 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: against Christopher Sanchez in a complete game for the Phillies lefty. 157 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: But then they gave him another chance against Franber Valdez 158 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: and some of these other lefties from the like Chicago 159 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: and the Cubs and some other teams like that, and 160 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: he's he's paid it off to paid off that opportunity 161 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: where he's got a nine hundred oh ps against righty's. 162 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: He's crushing righties. It's the reason he is in just 163 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: part of a season. Is in the Rookie of the 164 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: Year conversation. But he's also more than holding his own 165 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: against lefties. He's got like a one to twenty oh 166 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: ps plus. This guy can hit. He can hit for average, certainly, 167 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: and he's showing a little bit of power too against lefties. 168 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: The one thing that stands out there is velocity is 169 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: not a problem, but his eye just seems to be 170 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: more naturally geared toward facing right handed pitching. Where his 171 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: you know he has walked to strike out. Rachel is 172 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: much much worse. He's striking a lot against lefties. But listen, 173 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: I'd rather him go through these bumps as a twenty 174 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: one year old and throughout the course of his career 175 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: not getting platooned than just assume at twenty one years old, 176 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: platoon him now and hopefully he figures it out down 177 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: the road. No, let him figure out now. If you 178 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: can't do it in October, okay, you know, you make 179 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: a call then, but in August and September, give the 180 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: kid a chance. 181 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: But obviously, Roman Anthony is an elite prospect. Are we 182 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 6: going to even base on all the numbers that you 183 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 6: just said? Are we going to go away from this 184 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: because the game, I mean, are we going to continue 185 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 6: to get even worse platoon splits here because of how 186 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: cheap teams are. ROMEI Gonzalez will always cost way less, 187 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 6: and I know it's not a comparable position will always 188 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: cost way less. Rob Refschneider will always cost way less, 189 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: just on the Red Sox team. Both those guys have 190 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 6: a higher success, higher ops against lefties. So because teams 191 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 6: are going for the cheap, we're gonna go and get 192 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 6: somebody cheap and we're just not gonna need to play 193 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: those guys against lefties. Or does there have to be 194 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: almost like a whole MLB shift for this to change. 195 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: I think there's gotta be a larger shift than certainly 196 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: just Roman Anthony figuring things out right. Like, look at 197 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: all the top prospects we'd get, like a Jackson Holliday 198 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: to the major and they just don't hit the way 199 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: you thought they were going to the way they projected to. 200 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: Given their hit tool and all the production they had 201 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: of the miners and their prospect status, it is so 202 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: much easier to say, hey, Andrew har is out there, 203 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: we can pay five hundred thousand dollars to take on 204 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 4: the rest of his contract, and we have a guy 205 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: we feel comfortable in a corner of field, spot or 206 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: first base or DH and you can hit lefties. So 207 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: I think there are enough of those guys out there 208 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: that we will continue to see this platooning happen. I 209 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: am not at all forecasting the end of platooning. I'm saying, 210 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: in maybe smaller samples, the truly great left handed hitters there, 211 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: we're seeing it, you know, a sort of pivot point 212 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: I think in the game where maybe we've maybe we've 213 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: gone a little bit too far with how unwilling we 214 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: are to let them go through hard times against lefties, 215 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: and there needs to be a moment where you say, Okay, 216 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: we're gonna let him. We're gonna take a month here, 217 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: We're gonna let him face every left he we get 218 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: thrown in there. We'll rest him some other day and 219 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: we'll accept the numbers probably are not in our favor. 220 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: But in the long term, we need a Roman Anthony 221 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: or a Jackson Holiday to be able to hit left 222 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 4: handed pitching, and so you know, we can platoon part 223 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: of our lineup. 224 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: He's not in that part anymore. 225 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: We are going to have him be an everyday regular, 226 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: a left or right handed pitching starter, And so I 227 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: would I would hope we are headed in that direction 228 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: where at least we're a little more opportunistic with who 229 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: gets platooned rather than just sort of naturally assuming, hey, 230 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: everybody on the bench, all the ready's on the bench, 231 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: we're going to shuffle you into the lineup just because 232 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: that's you know, that's what you do against the left 233 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: handed pitcher. 234 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: FTFAM designer clothes can be expensive, but we want our 235 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: clothes to look good, we want to feel good. 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In my recent story? 262 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So the six that I had I had in 263 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: the east, Orlando, Raleigh, Nashville, and in the West. 264 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: I had thank you, thank you. 265 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: It's easier West, I had Salt Lake City, Portland, and Austin. 266 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: And so if I'm power ranking them, I'm thinking it's 267 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: gonna be one from the East, one from the west. 268 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: But I'll just do it all as one. 269 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: Austin I think is last on my tier, mostly because 270 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: they don't have sort of terribly organized effort. There is 271 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 4: starting it, but it's sort of it's a couple of 272 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: entrepreneurs who are starting the effort. It's not like it's 273 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: a huge corporation. It's not like it's in set Lake 274 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: City they have all the money that they're like, hey, 275 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: we're starting the effort. No, it's a couple like guys 276 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: with a dream. And so Austin sure has a lot 277 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: of things in his favor, but not the organization so far. Orlando, 278 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't think baseball is crazy about another team in Orlando, 279 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: they could get relocated. I suppose if the Rays end 280 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: up as they get sold deciding they don't want to 281 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: get that ballpark or can't get that ballpark in Tampa 282 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: or Saint Pete, so I put them there. So I 283 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: have left Nashville, Raleigh, Salt Lake City, and Portland, who 284 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: it's close for all those, so actually ridden them separately 285 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: because it doesn't make sense to do them together. I 286 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: think if Portland is less likely than Salt Lake City. 287 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: Salt Lake City has every piece, as I wrote in 288 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: that piece, like it's it's as turnkey as you're gonna 289 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: get for an expansion franchise. They have a stadium site 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: that's already shovel ready or getting very very close to it. 291 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: They have all the money in the Miller family that's 292 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: willing to bankroll this. They have bipartisans support everyone locally 293 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: or so many people in local politics and state politics 294 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: over there in Utah want this to happen. That's really 295 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: big part of this that doesn't get talked about as much. 296 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: They have public. 297 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: Funding for half the ball parker or so Portland I 298 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 4: think is close behind. I think they just don't quite 299 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: have all of those things. They don't have the keystone 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: investor there, and so I think Baseball MANJ League baseball 301 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: would work both places, but I think Salt Lake City 302 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: has to be considered the front runner at this point, 303 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: and in the East. I think that was maybe what 304 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: surprised people most from the reporting I did was that 305 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: Raleigh seems to be a much more realistic option than 306 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: they believed. And as I wrote, the reason they're realistic 307 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: is they have the money lined up. Tom Dundan, who 308 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: owns the Carolina Hurricanes and also just was part of 309 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: a group that's buying the Portland Trailblazers right now, he 310 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: wants to make it happen and bring baseball to North Carolina. 311 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 4: There is also support from in local politics and so 312 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: in some of the ways that Nashville has not been 313 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: so public, baseball players would love to have it in Nashville. Generally, 314 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: that's the city that wins running away when we ask 315 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 4: players in various polls about where they would like to 316 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: see an expansion franchise, Nashville is it. But they don't 317 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: have the money yet quite yet. They don't have public 318 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: funding quite yet, they don't have a stadium site quite yet, 319 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: so that all can still come together before baseball goes 320 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: public and ask for bids to come in. 321 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: But at this very. 322 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 4: Stage, I would pick Nashville because I think there's still 323 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: a lot of momentum there, but they have a lot 324 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 4: to figure out, which makes Raleigh a pretty intriguing number 325 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: two option in the same way that Portland's pretty intriguing 326 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: behind Salt Lake City. 327 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Steven, before that, you wrote about your realignment plan. And 328 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I know it's been a minute now that this has 329 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: been a topic of conversation, but it has been a 330 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: hot topic of conversation. So instead of asking you for 331 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: your whole plan, which we went over in a segment 332 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: on our show, how has it received? 333 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: What kind of feedback did you get? 334 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: And if you could go back and rewrite anything, would 335 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: you No. 336 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: I wouldn't change anything, and not because I'm unwilling to 337 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: do it. I just think it really worked. It really 338 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: made the map make more sense, and the feedback was 339 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: overwhelmingly positive. So Ken Rosenthal was texting that day with 340 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: just text he was getting from people around the league. 341 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: I said like, Hey, can we get your guys plan 342 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: to be the plan, which is I'm not taking that 343 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: much credit because Jason Stark literally wrote this exact same 344 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: thirty team alignment thirty two team alignment in twenty eighteen. 345 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: I didn't realize until after. 346 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: I've finished mine, So it's not like I'm the first 347 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: one to say any of this, But it's well received 348 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: because I took the NFL model and they re aligned 349 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: in two thousand and two the Broaden in Houston, Texans. 350 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: They were able to re align in a way where 351 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: so you know a handful of teams got pulled into 352 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: the new South divisions, but other than that, they didn't 353 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 4: really rock the boat that much. He didn't cause that 354 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: many ripples and waves. You know, one team here changed conferences, 355 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: a team here changed divisions. But really it was like, 356 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: how do we take the existing structure, take out those 357 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: teams that are going to head to the South divisions, 358 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: and try to make the map just like more common sense. 359 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: And there's some things that happened that don't make sense. 360 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Colts are in the South and the Miami 361 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: Dolphins are not. That type of thing will happen because 362 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: the Dolphin and said we don't want to go. So 363 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: baseball could have that very thing happen as well. But 364 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: right now, I said what's the easiest way we can 365 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: We can put the map together and try to limit 366 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: how many teams we have crossing the leagues, and you 367 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: come away with an option like, okay, that like that 368 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: that cluster of teams is together. We're keeping almost everybody 369 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: in the same leagues. I was switching, just the Rays 370 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: and the Rockies switching leagues. And I think people realizeeing that, like, oh, 371 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: realignment doesn't have to be earth shattering, it doesn't have. 372 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: To completely. 373 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: Turn over what I thought the leagues looked like. I 374 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: don't have to learn all that much new stuff. Where 375 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: the the alternative, as I'm sure you talked about the 376 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: other days alternatives, you rip up the American National League 377 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: and you say, we're just going geographically. 378 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: We're like the NBA. 379 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: We want the four or five teams closest to each 380 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: other to be in the same division, or the eight 381 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: teams close to each other be in the same division, 382 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: and you just split basically at the Mississippi. I personally 383 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: don't think that's the way they're going to go because 384 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: the American National Leagues are so established and there's so 385 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: there's so much history there. Baseball loves its history. It's 386 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: sacred in so many ways that would the owners really 387 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: vote just to you know, the example that the commissioner 388 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: gave when he was in the Little League Classical, it 389 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: was like, oh, that ten pm game in the playoffs, 390 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 4: we get like West Coast team and an East Coast 391 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: team and nobody's happy. It's like, would you really blow 392 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: up the American National leagues because of that. 393 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: Ten pm game? 394 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how much money is on that one, 395 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: but that would surprise me if that was the number 396 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: one motivating factor. And so I think they keep the 397 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: American National Leagues. And that was my proposal, was to 398 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: do that and make as few changes as possible, and 399 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 4: I think it really works. 400 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: Okay, well, good stuff. 401 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will get into it more in the offseason too, Steven, thanks. 402 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: For stopping by. Man really appreciate the insight. 403 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Everyone check out all the articles that he's been working 404 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: on in the Athletic Appreciate you. 405 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: Thanks guys. 406 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: Mark, what's up? 407 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 7: What's up? Scott? How are we doing? 408 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: Got lost his ear? So I want to know why 409 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: your Diraftneckmark, That's what I want to know. 410 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 8: So I know it's hard to believe, but I was 411 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 8: about fifty pounds lighter when I was in college when 412 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 8: I got started, and my neck looked a little bit 413 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 8: longer and thinner based on how much less weight I had. 414 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 8: I'm at a healthy spot right now. But before it 415 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 8: was kind of goofy looking. 416 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 2: You were fifty pounds lighter. 417 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, fifty pounds lighter. It was kind of crazy 418 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 8: to think about. 419 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Wow, what did you do? 420 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: Did you, Jim? 421 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: Did you go on the Aerocrat's diet plan? No? 422 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 8: Honestly, like just being healthier, I think not being in 423 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 8: college and eating the dorm food and you know, having 424 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 8: some late night activities. 425 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 7: I think it was. It was one of those situations. 426 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, well you look good. How 427 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: do you feel right now? 428 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: As one of the hosts of Mets up about this 429 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: Mets team, like what is the current pulse of where 430 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: you're at? As of course, you know, the team heading 431 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: into the season had the highest of expectations. They carried 432 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: that for a while, they had the lulls, and now 433 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: with the youngsters coming up, are you back? Want to 434 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: say on the bandwagon, you watch every pitch, but where 435 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: are you at? 436 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 8: I go back and forth every single day with this team. 437 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 8: I can watch the games one day and be so 438 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 8: back in and then like a Mets fan, watch them 439 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 8: play one bad game or one bad series like they 440 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 8: did against the Marlins and think, well, I don't really 441 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 8: know how much noise we can make. 442 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 7: I don't know. 443 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 8: It's it's a bizarre team in that the young guys 444 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 8: being called up has made me really excited. 445 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 7: With Tong and McLean, I think they. 446 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 8: Were a little bit of a youthful spark that this 447 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 8: team needed, brought some energy, and they're some of the 448 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 8: best pitchers on this team right now. The offense is 449 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 8: finally clicking, but the pitching is really scaring me. With 450 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 8: Manaiah and Codei and even Peterson struggling a little bit, 451 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 8: those guys just simply need to better be better if 452 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 8: we want any chance at all at making her run. 453 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: All right, well, then let's I mean, let's dive into it. 454 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 6: I mean, you start with the most recent where Carlsmandoza said, 455 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 6: we're not really sure where we're going with Senga, Like, 456 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 6: do you believe that the route is blow up the rotation. 457 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 6: Have everybody go for a month of try and say, 458 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 6: whoever does the best in the next month is our guys? 459 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 6: Do we trust. Do we trust anything besides David Peterson 460 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 6: and the rookies. You gotta start start with Sega. Do 461 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: you agree with Carlos Mendoza? 462 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 8: I do, Actually, I think right now, with what we've 463 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 8: seen from Sanga, it's pretty tough to rely on him 464 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 8: to be a game two, game three starter in the playoffs, 465 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 8: and we know that he's had some up and downs 466 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 8: with injuries. He's had a bit of a weird couple 467 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 8: seasons with the Mets with you know, missing time. But 468 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 8: at this moment, right now, with how funky and kind 469 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 8: of hyper specific, code I seems to feel within tune 470 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 8: to his body. He's talked about it after the game. 471 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 8: He's like, I'm working extra hard to make sure my 472 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 8: body's working right. It doesn't seem like everything is going 473 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 8: properly for code I Senga this year, and if he's 474 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 8: not one of the three best pitchers, especially because the 475 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 8: Mets look like they're gonna be playing in the wild 476 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 8: Card Series no matter what, I don't think you can 477 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 8: confidently throw him out there in a game that has 478 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 8: so much importance until he shows you something. And luckily, 479 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 8: the Mets do still have a month left and we 480 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 8: have a little bit of a cushion. We still have 481 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 8: the Reds, you know, at the end of the week here, 482 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 8: which could change things. But if CODEI steps up, I 483 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 8: have no problem putting him back in that you know, 484 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 8: game two, game three role, But at this exact moment, 485 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 8: I don't really trust him to get big outs in 486 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 8: the series right now. 487 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: Well, the Mets trusting him last year against the Phillies. 488 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: They ran him out there and pitched all year. 489 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I don't choice. 490 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 5: Now did you ever think that the big bad Mets, 491 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: with their seven hundred million dollar payroll, we need to 492 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: rookies to step in and save them. They were supposed to, 493 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 5: you know, Frankie mont Toss and this guy and that 494 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: guy and all these people they signed, and then it's 495 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: McLean and Tang and I came up and to save him. 496 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 8: Listen, I'd still rather have the seven hundred million dollar 497 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 8: payroll and still make the playoffs than have that disappointing 498 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 8: season like the Braves did this year and look. 499 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 7: So horrible, like at least we're still there. So it's 500 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 7: one of those things where it's like. 501 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 5: I'm a White Sox fan, Mark, Okay, So let's just 502 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: say there's no disappointment. 503 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: They're having a way better than they did last year. 504 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 8: Actually they've got some home players Coles to Montgomery, but no, seriously, 505 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 8: like the uh. I didn't expect the young guys to 506 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 8: have this much importance, and I don't particularly like it. 507 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 8: I'm glad that McLean has stepped up and shown that 508 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 8: he's able to pitch in big moments and be one 509 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 8: of our better pitchers. And I'm glad that we saw 510 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 8: Tom come up and he looked pretty good against the Marlins, 511 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 8: the only win we got against him in that series somehow, 512 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 8: but I wish that the pitching was a little bit better. 513 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 8: Just the fact that Manaia and Sanga, like you mentioned, 514 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 8: being the guys that are supposed to be the frontline starters, 515 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 8: and even looking at Mantas who was supposed to be 516 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 8: a big part of this rotation, the fact that we've 517 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 8: gotten almost nothing out of them. And I'm code I 518 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 8: a little bit more than Manaya, but the fact that 519 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 8: right now we're kind of getting nothing out of them 520 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 8: is terrifying as a Mets fan, something I do not 521 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 8: feel comfortable with at all. 522 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: Okay, KP, this is your first arena club experience. We're 523 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna open a slab pack together. So first off, we're 524 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna buy one of those twenty five dollars slab packs 525 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: and we get to see what is in the pack. 526 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: There. 527 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: It is the Grail, which is the best card in 528 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: the pack and worth the most. There are some other 529 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: cards that we're chasing, and you can see the entire 530 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: lineup so that you know what you're in the running for. 531 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: There's the Yamamoto signed card. Now let's open up our 532 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: pack and see how we do. We have ourselves a 533 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: really cool graphic and then a show Heyo Tani fifty 534 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: to fifty card from last year. What do you want 535 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: to do? Should we sell it right back to them 536 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: for sixteen or should. 537 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 2: We keep it? 538 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: You should give it to me, I'll. 539 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: Keep good answer, fine, I will give it to you. 540 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Since the Blue Jays didn't getto Tani, you can get 541 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: this fifty to fifty card instead and use the code 542 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: foul foul to get yourself twenty percent off your first 543 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: slab pack or card purchase. Yes, you get to keep 544 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: that card if you want it. They send it to 545 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: you foul at Arena club dot com. 546 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: Slash foul. 547 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: Set it out there. 548 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 6: You brought up the game game three starter for the 549 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 6: playoffs today, nothing changes. Everybody just kind of middles their 550 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 6: way through. Soto has one hundred RBIs in the month 551 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 6: of September and the Mets make the playoffs. Tell me 552 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 6: your game one, two, and three star. 553 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 8: I think right now it's got to be Peterson game one. 554 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 8: I think game two would be Noel McLain, and then 555 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 8: I think you just go all hands on deck, like, 556 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 8: can we get one time around the order from Sean Andya? 557 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 8: Can we go Jonah Tonk one time around the order? 558 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: Like? 559 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 8: We do have the option because of how the playoff 560 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 8: format is, where if we were to get to a 561 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 8: game three, everybody has to be available, and the way 562 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 8: that managers handle the postseason typically they do go kind 563 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 8: of a little bit crazy, and if you start to 564 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 8: struggle at all, you come out of the game. The 565 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 8: Mets will have a lot of arms. If Peterson McClain 566 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 8: continue to do what they can do, obviously you know 567 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 8: you're gonna use some bullpen two in those games. Things 568 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 8: would change, But game three I would be leaning crazy enough. 569 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 8: I think Tong based on what we've seen right now, 570 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 8: I feel more confident with him than I do Mania 571 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 8: or Sanger right now. 572 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: Okay, so essentially you're looking for about eighteen innings in 573 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: three games from your bullpen, and we haven't even brought 574 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: up your bullpen. 575 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 8: Well we you know's That's another scary thing that's going 576 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 8: on here, is that a lot of the guys that 577 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 8: we brought in, specifically Ryan Helsley, have been just really 578 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 8: struggling to get any sort outs, especially in big moments. 579 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 8: Tyler Rodgers been good, but he is still giving up runs, 580 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 8: whether it's donky hits or bloops or anything like that, 581 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 8: still runs that are scoring. Like there just hasn't been 582 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 8: anybody that can get consistent out in this bullpen that's 583 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 8: not named Edwin Diazer Brooks Raley. 584 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Right now, all right, let's move to SODO. 585 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Thirty six home runs, had a career high six RBIs 586 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: in that big win over the Tigers yesterday. 587 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: He's a stolen base machine these days. 588 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: That number is already a career high from him at 589 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: what is it twenty six, and even for the Homers 590 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: it's a tougher park day at Homers in and he's 591 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: at thirty six. His career high was last year at 592 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: forty one. When you look at his first season as 593 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: a New York Met How would you sum up his 594 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: performance and contributions to the team. Should Mets fans be thrilled? 595 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 7: Mets fans should be thrilled. 596 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 8: I think he's never going to be able to live 597 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 8: up to the seven hundred million dollar contract. 598 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 7: It's impossible as a baseball player show Heo. 599 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 8: Tani, who can literally pitch and hit and do things 600 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 8: that we've never seen before. But for Soto, offensively, he 601 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 8: is basically the same guy that he's always been. He's 602 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 8: having one of his best seasons offensively. If you look 603 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 8: at all the numbers around baseball, he's top six I 604 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: think in WRC plus in terms of run production, even 605 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 8: if you're looking at war for a guy who's horrible 606 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 8: and right field defensively, he's still top fifteen in the league. 607 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 8: And what he's been able to do this past month 608 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 8: and going into September now really helping carrying this offense 609 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 8: is exactly what we paid him for. He's on pace 610 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 8: to maybe even have a forty one hundred and thirty 611 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 8: sole in base season. Like we don't see that kind 612 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 8: of stuff from players very often. I think Bonds and 613 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 8: Griffy are the only guys to have those kind of numbers. So, yeah, 614 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 8: Wan Soto has been one of the most valuable players 615 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 8: I think in baseball this year. If you take him 616 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 8: off the Mets, this team doesn't even sniff the playoffs 617 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 8: at all. 618 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 6: Who's next? Who's the next guy? Who's the next most 619 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 6: valuable because I don't think I think it's a distant 620 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: second place. But who do you feel like is the 621 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: second most valuable player in this offense? And that's indispensable 622 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 6: the stretch run here. 623 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, offensively, I think it's Peter Alonzo, as much as 624 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 8: I think Lindor is probably a more valuable player overall, 625 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 8: I think offensively, Pete Alonzo is the next most valuable guy. 626 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: Just I mean, even the numbers he's putting up this 627 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 8: year still really good, A top twenty offensive player in 628 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 8: the league. The powers incredible as it always is, one 629 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 8: of the best home run hitters in the game. And 630 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 8: when he's not chasing, which he goes through spouts where 631 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 8: he does chase a lot and he looks to hit 632 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 8: the ball the other way a little bit too often. 633 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 8: When Pete's on, he's a tough out, a tough at bat, 634 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 8: and with Soto in front, of him and Lindor in 635 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 8: front of him. There's always guys on base, which is 636 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 8: what you love to see. 637 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: If you're Pete Alonzo, Mark good stuff man. Great to 638 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: have you on. 639 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, we ain't done with him yet. 640 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: We ain't done with him yet. 641 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: I said final call, final. 642 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: You didn't say final call. 643 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 5: You said next And I didn't get the answer because 644 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 5: you said, whoa, whoa, Let's let him go. You got 645 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: a helmet behind you. Okay, we know you love the Cocks. 646 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: Buzz is Lenora's Sellers a real Heisman candidate? Because I 647 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: watch your game against Virginia Tech. I mean, eh, And 648 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 5: are you sold on Shane Beemer? 649 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: Oh? I love I love Beamer. I love Beamer. Of 650 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 7: course I have to love Beemer. 651 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 8: You don't understand. I got to South Carolina twenty fourteen. 652 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 8: From that moment on, they were horrendous. They never even 653 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 8: came close to being good again. So this is the 654 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 8: first time in over ten years that they've like sniffed 655 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 8: really being a good prominent college football team. Big reason 656 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 8: Beemer in a big reason is because Leonora Sellers, who 657 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 8: I do think is a legitimate Heisman candidate. I don't 658 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 8: think they wanted to show their hand too much against 659 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 8: Virginia Tech. They ran that deep ball to Nick Harbor 660 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 8: late in the game, easy touchdown. 661 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 7: That's all we need to see. 662 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: Wow, good. 663 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I can't say anything. 664 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: You really you literally can compete for the SEC this year. 665 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: I mean Alabama look like dog poo. 666 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: That helps. That helps a lot. 667 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: Do you think Georgia, Tennessee, the rest of them, LSU, Florida, 668 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 5: do you think they're better and can get to the 669 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: SEC championship game. 670 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 8: I think we have a chance. I don't think we're 671 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 8: the best team in the SEC. But when you look 672 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 8: at like the most impactful players offensively and defensively, I 673 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 8: think Dylan Stewart is one of the best defensive players 674 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 8: in the country, and I think offensively le Norris is 675 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 8: one of the ten best players in the country. So 676 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 8: college football it's about who's the best, And if we 677 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 8: got two of the better players in the country, I 678 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 8: think we have a shot. 679 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, would you rather have Belichick or Beamer? 680 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 7: Beamer give me Beamer all day. 681 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh what a homer. 682 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: Carlos Mendoza. 683 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 7: Carlos Mendoz, that's who we want. 684 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't know who you're talking about. 685 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: About we talked about I listened, look at. 686 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 7: Us go exactly. It's a game cock right there. 687 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: And the over Belichick for UNC always. 688 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: That was a whoopings. 689 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 7: That was bad. That was really good. 690 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: Mark, This was awesome, man. Thanks for stopping by. 691 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Of course everyone check out Mark's content draftneck Mark on 692 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: that side of the equation on YouTube and that's up 693 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: uh him and Jane running point here you go multiple 694 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: times per week recapping every single series, the most. 695 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Dialed in on the Mets. 696 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: It's Mets Up wherever you get your pods and on YouTube. 697 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, talk 698 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 7: Soon, man, Thank you guys, appreciate you.