1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: My project manager, Katrina. She and I when we would 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: run into a problem that we needed to solve, or 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm going. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: For a walk. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: She and I were walking this time along the Milwaukee River. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: I was telling her about my platelet donation. I said, 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, they called me up and I went in 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: and I was just telling her. I thought it was 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: really cool that they took the blood out and grabbed 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the platelets and put it back. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: And she stopped. 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: She looked at me, and she says, you know, if 13 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't for blood products and platelets, I probably wouldn't 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: have survived childhood leukemia and I wouldn't be here. So 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: there right in front of me was somebody who was 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: a recipient of something that I have the ability to give. 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: And that was sort of my light bulb moment, saying, 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: maybe you should go back in two weeks when you're 19 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: eligible and. 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Do it again. So I did, and I started. 21 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: That's kind of what started my I call it now, 22 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: I call it my grateful habit, because it's a habit. 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Now, Welcome to an army of normal votes. I'm Bill Courtney. 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach an 26 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: inner city Memphis, and the last part somehow led to 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: an oscar for the film they made about our football team. 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: It's called Undefeated. I believe our country's problems will never 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 3: be solved by a bunch of fancy people in nice 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: suits using big words that nobody ever uses on CNN 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: and Fox, but rather by an army of normal phones. Guys, 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: that's us, just you and me deciding Hey, maybe I 33 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: can help. That's what John Norman, the voice you just heard, 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: has done. John has donated platelets over one hundred and 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: sixty times, which is helping to save lives while sitting 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: in a chair for ninety minutes, something almost all of 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: us can do. I can't wait for you to meet 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: John right after these brief messages from our general sponsors. 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: John Norman from Port Washington, Wisconsin. Where in the world 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: is that. 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Just north of Milwaukee about fifteen to twenty miles. 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: Does that make you a Brewers fan and a Packers fan? 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: Packers fan for sure, Yeah, and a Brewers fan. I 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: don't watch a lot of baseball, but it's a fun game. 45 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: I got it at Bucks Basketball. 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Bucks for sure. 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Bucks and six, although not the last couple of years 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: we just got knocked out. 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, you got a superstar up there. Sounds like he's 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: not real happy to be up there anymore. 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: They've got their things going on. I also don't pay 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: much attention to the Bucks unless they're unless they're winning. 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a fair Weather fan. But I grew up 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: in Colorado and we did not at the time have 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: a We had a basketball we didn't have a baseball team, 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: so I never got into baseball right And I was 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: born in New Mexico and went to Alaska. No baseball 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: teams there either, so baseball was not a thing. 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: Let me throw one on you a Denver basketball Frian. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: One of my favorite players was Keiky Vandaway. You remember 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: that name at all? 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: That sounds familiar. 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh wow, he was. That was eighties he was. He 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: was a really good shooter. Anyway, not why you're here, John, 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: but thanks for thanks for flying down from Port Washington 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: and visiting with us. Alex, how do we find John? 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: You found us, I know, tell us about it. Alex 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: the producer will tell us how we found John. 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: He emailed us one day. Yes, this email wasn't boring. 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: His email wasn't born, so we responded to him, think, 71 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: sure you should say it was in the email, John, 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: it's better coming from you. 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I do remember sending this email because I'd kind of 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: discovered you guys, and I was donating platelets one day 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is pretty much a normal person 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of thing to do, and anybody can do it, 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: almost anybody. So I sent you a quick email just 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: saying just part of your part of your army, our army. 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that part, but I 80 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: put the y in parentheses and yeah, I just wanted 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: to call out that donating blood and platelets is an 82 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: important thing to do, and it's something that I thought 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: at the time this is just enough information for a 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: shop talk. Never thought i'd be called here to come 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: into an actual interview, but there was more that came 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: with it later on. 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: I guess, well, there's more to your story too, which 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get into. And it's cool that 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: we are now organically getting a lot of our guests, 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: which is why I want to tell a story, because 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: before even start, I want to remind everybody that at 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: the end of all of these things, we beg folks. 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: To send us ideas for shop dogs, beg folks to 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: send us stories of people they know, And you're living 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: proof that we're serious about that. And it is just 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: cool that we're getting organic guests from the show who 97 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: listened to the show tell stories, and you're emblematic of that. 98 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: Something else I think you're emblematic of is that we 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: really want to challenge people to think beyond massive five 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: OHO one C threes and beyond huge organizations, that an 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: army of normal folks can exact a great measure of 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: change just doing what they can and their neck of 103 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: the woods, seeing their areas and need and filling them. 104 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: And John, I mean that's what you do. 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to be part 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: of that army and doing one thing at a time. 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Well you are. 108 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: But first, I think I gave you the actual email, 109 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: don't I? 110 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: Bill, What's that? 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: Isn't the email in your prep email the email that 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: John sent us originally? 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Maybe I think it's I don't 114 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: think it is. Really, Yeah, you didn't do your job 115 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: this time, Alex. I mean I always brag on how 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: good a job you do prepping me. Now I will 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: say that I watched the whole YouTube video. So that's 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: that was really nice that you spent the ten seconds 119 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: to attach that. Thank you. Okay, So John, sorry, alex 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: Is just sit in a corner. Hey, Passius, could we 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: get like a curtain like at the Wizard of Oz 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: and just pull it across his area so I don't 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: have to deal with him? Thanks, appreciate it. We'll install 124 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: that maybe next week. Awesome. I know that you know 125 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: you're giving back because you were I guess I'm going 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: to use a word I don't even know if it's right. 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: A scout master maybe, or what you were like in 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: charge of your So you volunteer doing stuff with your 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: sons and cub Scouts and boy Scouts, and that means 130 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: you're engaged with a bunch of other kids too. I 131 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: assume and absolutely all that and put a normal life. 132 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: And then one day your work hosted a blood drove. Yep, 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: what was that about? So? 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: I worked at a life science company at the time 135 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and I don't know so this this company 136 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: at the time, this is the part that I was 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: involved in. They worked with pharmaceutical companies and helped them 138 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: with things like their helpline. If you've got a drug 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and you got questions about it, you can call up 140 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and learn more about it. 141 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: We had people on staff there that would that were. 142 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Trained to answer those questions and at least triage them 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: and if if they didn't know the answer, could send 144 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: them to somebody that knew more. And I was only 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: working there because it was it was an IT job 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: that I could do. They offered a blood drive for 147 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the entire company. They said, We're going to bring in 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: a blood center Wisconsin and set up in our lobby 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and you're welcome to take time off of your day 150 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: and donate blood. So I think this is an easy one. 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: It's literally right down the hall. And I had not 152 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: given blood since maybe a couple times when we were 153 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: with the boy Scouts we were at some. 154 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Place where they offered it get blood. 155 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Probably no I was the adult forcing our kids somebody 156 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: to get blood. I'm like, I'll go if you go. 157 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: But that was years before, and before that, maybe in 158 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: high school, I had donated once or twice. So I 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: went and it was took twenty minutes and I was 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: back at work. And a week later I got a 161 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: phone call from the blood center and They said, you know, 162 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: you've got a really high platelet count and your blood 163 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: type is one that we would normally lead you in 164 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: this direction. Would you consider donating platelets? And I said, 165 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: what's the difference? How you do that for question? They said, well, 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: it takes a little bit longer. We'll explain it to 167 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: you when you get here, just playing on a couple 168 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: hours instead of twenty minutes. 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, that's cool. So when can I 170 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: do this? 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: How early can it because I need to come to 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: work afterwards. So I set up an appointment to go 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: into the blood center. I had to wait a while 174 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: because I had given blood and you have to wait 175 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: eight weeks after giving whole blood. 176 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: So I went in. 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: I set up an appointment at six o'clock in the morning, 178 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: and I walked in and I'm signing into their sheet 179 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: and one of the questions on the. 180 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Signing sheet was have you donated before? 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: And I answered no, And the person behind the counter said, well, 182 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: why did you just check the noebox? I said, well, 183 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: I've never donated platelets before. This is a new thing 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: for me. You said you'd explain it. 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: When I came from scouting, and one of the twelve 186 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: things has to be something to do with honest. 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: I think that was probably one of the ones I missed. 188 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Got a boy, Okay, go ahead. 189 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: Actually I don't think honesty is in there. It's kind 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: of implied before. 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: You drop this line. I want to divert real quick. 192 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: You're there signing in and they're like, why are you checking? 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: And you check. No, we'll pick up back there in 194 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: just a moment. I had a guest on that gave 195 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: me some demographics or some data, not demographics, some data 196 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: around blood donors, and it made Alex co give blood. 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: It was John that was the data was from John. 198 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: I pulled the data online. 199 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: You pulled the data after John's okay, so it was 200 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: you pulled the data, all right. The data, to me 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: is what was so opening, And we're going to get 202 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: to it because I think there's going to be some 203 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: data about the next thing we're going to talk about. 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: But I want to remind our listeners what that data 205 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: is and I'm going to screw it up, So correct me, 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: all right, but I'm going to go for it. 207 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: You probably know better than I do, Alex. Alex should 208 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: remember I don't feel in any details with me. 209 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Please quite referring to the man in the corner. So 210 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: the data I think that is right is that only 211 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: three percent of the population donates blood. And okay, I 212 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: am sure there are low percentages of people in the population. 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: They do lots of stuff that should be done. But 214 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: here's where it really kind of was eye opening to me. 215 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: If you're in a car wreck and go to the yar, 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: you need blood. If you're a cancer patient, you need blood. 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: If you have any kind of surgery, you need blood. 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: If it's almost inconceivable that throughout life, you or someone 219 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: in your immediate family that you love or both will 220 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: not need blood more than one time in your life. 221 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: So here's the data that I siphon from that. One 222 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: hundred percent of every single person walking around in our 223 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: country today will need blood for themselves or someone in 224 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: their immediate friend, not a distant friend, their immediate family 225 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: that they love at least once and probably two or 226 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: three times before they reach death. 227 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: For sure. 228 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: One hundred and only three. So there's three out of 229 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: one hundred people in the world in the world are 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: supporting the entire medical community. 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: And it's actually less than well, I'm gonna I'm going 232 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: to back up on that a little bit. It might 233 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: be less than that because only sixty five percent of 234 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: the population are eligible to donate. Because what if you 235 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: already had cancer, or if you've got some blood or whatever, 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: your your high blood pressure, got a heart condition. 237 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: Only two out of every three people hand right, and 238 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: then only three percent of who came. 239 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that, Yeah, it might be a 240 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: lot less either way, it's a really small number. 241 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: Right, let me move the sheet back just a second, Okay, Alex, 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: you can speak now. Is that data about, right? Is 243 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: the adult population is the way they that's fair absently 244 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: adult population. But still it's nothing. It's nothing. And when 245 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: Alex did the data and we were talking to you 246 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: on the shop talk and your information, I think you 247 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: you went and gave blood like the next week, didn't 248 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: you know? 249 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: I mean it was almost a providence providancial thing. My 250 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: church just happened to be having a mobile you know 251 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: thing in the next week. So it's honestly, I can't 252 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: give myself too much credit. Like it literally was in 253 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: my backyard in the next week. 254 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, Well it was easy, wasn't it. 255 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: It was? Yeah? And I gave blood about two and 256 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: a half weeks ago because I said I was going 257 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: to deals. Yes, tell you that nice big deal. All right, 258 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: And now a few messages from our general sponsors. But first, 259 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: our next live interview in Memphis will be on June 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: twelfth with Father Mark Hannah. Father Mark and a team 261 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: of four other civilians saved over fifty lives on nine 262 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: to eleven and the rest of his team died while 263 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: trying to save more people. After nine to eleven, Mark 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: became a Coptic priest and hence the father title. 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We'll be right back. 269 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: So first to everybody listening right now, when we talk 270 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: about being an arman, normal folks, and you can see 271 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: an area need and fill it and you don't have to, 272 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: I mean, be part of any big organization, go give blood. 273 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: It takes. 274 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Minutes, maybe half an hour times. 275 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, I felt great after 276 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: I gave blood, Like I don't know, I was like 277 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: lost weight or something. I know that sounds stupid, but 278 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: that's exactly how I felt. 279 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: With blood. They take it, they don't give it back 280 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: to you. 281 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: So you're missing a paint stuff right right, and your 282 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: body feels it and your. 283 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: Body start doing more. I don't know why it feels 284 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: good afterwards, but I really feel good. 285 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: Not like maybe because I did a thing physically. 286 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: I actually felt lighter. It was weird, I. 287 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Think, so, well, you probably felt lightheaded. I mean, you're 288 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: missing it. 289 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what I felt, but it was great 290 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: and I'm going to continue to do it. And Alex 291 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: is too. 292 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: I think I heard somebody else on your podcast, to 293 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: your podcast that you had, the woman from Box. She 294 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: was saying that she had donated and she said it's 295 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: also kind of a health thing because you lose calories 296 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: when you're donating blood. 297 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. So everybody listen. If you're thinking, 298 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: what can I hold it just one second? Cassius, have 299 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: you given blood? Yeah, Alice, Cassius is not giving blood. 300 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: Well he didn't hear our Shop Talk episode, so. 301 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: Well you heard it now, Alex. I mean, Cassius, what 302 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: you're going to do? Casius? Everybody, it's a challenge. This 303 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: is a twenty minute thing. And honestly, this is how 304 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: I reconcile it with me. I or someone of my 305 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: family is going to need blood. And my father in 306 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: laws had opened our surgery he had to have blood. 307 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: My son Max coated after a football accident. His spleen 308 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: blew up and they put seven units in him. Seven. 309 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: He bled out he'd be dead if somebody had neggaive blood. 310 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: How selfish would I be to be able to give 311 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: blood and people need blood and have had two very 312 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: close family members survive because of that blood, and not 313 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: retard the favor we need to give blood? So okay, 314 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: all soap box? You checked no? 315 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: I checked no, yep, I've never been here to give 316 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: plate No. Why'd you check that box? I've never been here. 317 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: So and again I'm like, you guys are going to 318 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: explain this to me when I got here. So I'm 319 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: just trying to follow the rules here too. And they're like, 320 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: but you've donated before. I said, no, I never haven't it. 321 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Ten fifteen seconds later, my twin brother walked in the door. 322 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: He also had a six o'clock in the morning Friday morning, 323 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: six o'clock appointment to donate platelets that day, and he 324 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: had started a few months before I did, and probably 325 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: for the same kind of reason. I don't know if 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: we ever talked about. It was just kind of a 327 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: freaky twin thing that happened that day, and I thought, yeah, 328 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm supposed to be here. 329 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: That's pretty that's very cool. And the same kind of 330 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: reason was you gave blood. They said your plate look 331 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: count was high and they looked good. 332 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: He's got the same blood type I do. 333 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: And your blood type is only what nine percent of 334 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: the people in the world have. Your blood, that's what 335 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: I understand be positive is and so yours is pretty valuable. 336 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: And so he did it, and you do it. You 337 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: bounce into each other and you're both giving platelets. Now 338 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: that's an interesting thing. That was cool. 339 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: So it kind of freaked. 340 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: There's actually a phlebottomus there who when we were both there, 341 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: she had she had an aversion, not an aversion, but 342 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: unconscious fear of twins. 343 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: And whenever we were there, she left. 344 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: Are you kidding? There's a phobia? There's a twin? Is 345 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: it really? 346 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: She was? She was super nice and whenever it was 347 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: just me, no problem. 348 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: That is so weird that some kind of vampire with 349 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: a phobia. That's weird. Okay, So let's talk about platelets, 350 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: because I didn't know anything about him until I did 351 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: a little research after knowing I was going to meet 352 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: with you. But blood can be stored. I think blood 353 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: can even be frozen, can't It not true? 354 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: I know it can be stored. 355 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: For a fairly significant period of time. Platelets can't. And 356 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: I'll let you explain it before we go any further 357 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: so that people understand what the world platelets is and 358 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: why it takes two hours instead of twenty minutes. But 359 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: just ninth grade biology, I remember that platelets are what 360 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: helps your blood. I think it's coagulate. Yep. Is that right? 361 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: So why don't you just let's before we go any further, 362 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: let's talk about why platelets are different than blood, why 363 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: they're so valuable, what they do, and then what the 364 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: process is giving them in why it's different. 365 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you hit the high point of platelets. Platelets 366 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: are the part of your blood that coagulate and and 367 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: heal your wounds. If you get a scratch or a cut, 368 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: that's what helps stop the bleeding at that point. And 369 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: that's because if you don't call out coagulate you just 370 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: just keep bleeding, right, So it's super important. And and 371 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: like you said, if you're in surgery, then it's blood. 372 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: If you are a cancer patient, you're going through chemo 373 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: or radiation, that'll knock down your blood counts but also 374 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: knock down your platelet counts and that puts you at 375 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: risk of bleeding out or having issues with that. 376 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: So platelets are so if you're if you're going through 377 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: chemo and god forbid, you get a car wreck or 378 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: something else happens where you need share of surgery. If 379 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: the chemo knocks down your platelet clown, they can't even 380 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: do the surgery on you because. 381 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: That might be the case. 382 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, wait out. 383 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: Or if you've got cancer and I hope I don't 384 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: say this wrong because I haven't I don't really know 385 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: all the answers to this, but if you're getting this treatment, 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: it'll knock your platelet counts down to the point where 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: they won't be able to give you other treatments because 388 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: your body can't recover. So the platelets for cancer patients 389 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: are are really really important. 390 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean blood is too. 391 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Most cancer patients will need both. Some cancer, depending on 392 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: the treatment, you might not need platelets is a cancer patient, 393 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: but most of them do. And the ones that I 394 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: end up running into because I'm donating platelets and telling 395 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: stories about them, those are the people that I've connected with. 396 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: But it's super important for that. But platelets are just 397 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: one part of your blood product. 398 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: But it's not easy. 399 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: You can't just sit there for twenty minutes and drop 400 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: it in a bag. It's something that takes a little 401 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: bit longer. 402 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: Tell me about the process. 403 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: So the process, it's very. 404 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Similar to giving blood. You sit in a chair and 405 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: they put a needle in your arm. This needle, though, 406 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: is a little different. It's hooked up to a machine 407 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: called an a freesis machine that will draw the blood 408 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: out of out of your arm and it runs it 409 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: through I'll just call it to simplify it, just a 410 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: centrifuge or a series of centrifuge that depending on how 411 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: it's set up, it knows all right, I'm gonna put 412 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the platelets over here, I'm and keep everything else and 413 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: after it's process that, then it returns the rest of 414 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: your blood back to your body. 415 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: That's interesting. Yeah, I thought that was the coolest thing, 416 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: sifting the platelets out. Yeah, and then. 417 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: That's weird that aunt bunch of little chipmunks in there going. 418 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: There's one it's like a magnet for platelets or something 419 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: like that. So it's collecting platelets. And but why's it doing. 420 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: Why don't they just take the blood out of you? 421 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: You know why they do that? So they used to 422 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: do that. 423 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: They used to use the machine. 424 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: They would take the blood out and then they would 425 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: separate it into their number. There's plasma and there's blood 426 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: cells and platelets, and they used. 427 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: To separate it out all in one shot. 428 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at some of the pictures, 429 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: you'll see multiple bags hanging from the from the rack 430 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: while I'm donating. 431 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: Now the only two. 432 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Bags get filled with the platelets. But they used to 433 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: also pull plasma and blood at the same time. The 434 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: technologies get just gotten better. They they'll do whole blood. 435 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: They'll do a double red is very similar, where they'll 436 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: hook you up to a machine and take and through 437 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: the technical process. 438 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: They'll pull out more red blood cells. 439 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: So if you donate double reds, you'll have a twelve 440 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: or sixteen week waiting process. 441 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: So you can donate again. It takes your body more 442 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: time to build what new blood cells than it does 443 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: to do platelets. 444 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: Oh, well that makes sense. So when they're putting the 445 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: blood back in you, it allows you to give platelets 446 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: more often because your body. 447 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: Is Yeah, exactly, it's exactly it. 448 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: Why does it take two hours, It's. 449 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: Just the process of extracting it from your blood. 450 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: Does it feel different you mean when it comes back? No, 451 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: when you're sitting there, the two hours that you're sitting 452 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: there is a sensation any different. 453 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: It does get a little different. 454 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: Listen, we're challenging people to go give plate lifts. Well, 455 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people have a fear of needles, a 456 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: reasonable fear of going and sitting in a chair and 457 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: talking to a vampire who has a twin phobia. Who's 458 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: going to them problem. 459 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: Just to be clear that I don't think most full 460 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: bottomists have that particular issue. 461 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: They're just straight vampires. 462 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: Oh are they just straight vampires? Okay, this is anyway. 463 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: But they're going to do this and and I mean, 464 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: if I'm considering giving to play, let's I think it's 465 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: valuable to know what the process is and how it feels. 466 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it does feel different in it, so that you're 467 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: going to get a little bit of pain when the 468 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: needle goes in and it's it's weird. You can feel 469 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: the blood being drawn out because it's under pressure. In fact, 470 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: there's a little there's a little screen where you can 471 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of see the pressure as it draws 472 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: the blood out, and then the bottomus the vampire will 473 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: stay there with you until the first time it gets returned, 474 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: because that's just as important. If the needle gets put 475 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: in the wrong spot and maybe maybe goes through the vein, 476 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: that's maybe not such a problem if you're just donating 477 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and the blood's flowing out and it's not coming back. 478 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: But if it if it comes back and the needles 479 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: has punctured the veins in muscle, it's really painful. And 480 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: and but I can I just have to put that out. 481 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't ever want somebody to stop donating platelets. That's 482 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: happened to me a few times. It hurts, they take 483 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: care of you, it heals. It's not life threatening. But 484 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: I have to point out you might run into that, 485 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: but suck it up, Buttercup, you're about to save up 486 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: to three lives. So what's a little needle stick and. 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: A little that we're going to get to. But I mean, 488 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: just go ahead. 489 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: If you want to know what it feels like, just 490 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: pinch your arm for a couple of seconds. 491 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: It was either on a video or maybe in the prep. 492 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: You said, sometimes you're you can feel your lips. 493 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they put some sort of I don't know if 494 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: it's a starch or some sort of material in the return, 495 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: just to help keep things flowing. 496 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: Well, like, that's how I understand it. 497 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: Anyway. 498 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's like it, but but that 499 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: will give your lips sort of a tingly feeling. Some 500 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: people get that make metallic taste in their mouth, and 501 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: that's why some people say I just can't do it. 502 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: I can't stand that. 503 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: But again, and that's personal, right, But yeah, it feels 504 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: a little different. And sitting there for two hours, isn't it? 505 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: It's two hours total. It's usually maybe an hour and 506 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: a half for me. I have a friend, though it 507 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: totally depends on your body weight, your your heart rate 508 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: and other things. 509 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: He's done in an hour. For me it takes an hour. 510 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: And okay, but yes, it's different. 511 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 3: What do you feel like when it's over? I mean, 512 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: don't need to do anything? 513 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: No, they well, I use this to my advantage. 514 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: They tell you not to over exert yourself during the 515 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: day and like lift weights and lift heavy things and 516 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: stuff like that. 517 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: So you're happy to go sit on the couch. 518 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: That's why I do it a Friday, and my wife 519 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: will say that I'm worthless on Friday nights. I totally 520 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: use this as my excuse to just I donate a 521 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: platelests to day. I saved three lives, so I'm just 522 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: going to sit and relax, and. 523 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: They told me not to exert myself. 524 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: Something else about platelets is they can't It's not like blood. 525 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: They only last what three. 526 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: Four five days, five days, five days, So you got 527 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: to use it when you got them, and if you 528 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: need them, you need them. 529 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: So that makes platelets even even more important to donate 530 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: because you can't store them and just keep them on 531 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: the shelf for a while. 532 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: I think about Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital here in 533 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Memphis and all those children that have answer and research. 534 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: I've gotta believe they're constantly backing for the platelets. With 535 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: a hospital full of huldren, I would think so, I 536 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: would think. 537 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: So. 538 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I know our blood center provides, We're they've got a 539 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: five state system, but all the blood essentially goes local us. 540 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: It's really a need that's near enough they can get to. 541 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: You kind of have to got to have a good 542 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: organization to logistically handle getting all that stuff around. 543 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: So it's cool. But there's this there's this weird synergy 544 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: that happened in your world is you get platelets and 545 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: then a face gets put on your giving for you. Yep, 546 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: we'll be right back. So that I think it's interesting 547 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: how a name gets a face gets put to your 548 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you're giving platelets, you're giving blood. Clearly 549 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: your brother's doing it. That's awesome. But something happens it 550 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: kind of changes it. 551 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: So that was the first time that I donate platelets 552 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: when I ran into my brother there at work, my 553 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: project manager, Katrina, she and I when we would run 554 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: into a problem that we needed to solve, or just 555 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of run into a roadblock mentally for something I 556 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: was working on, I would I would say I'm going 557 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: for a walk, and she would come with me. 558 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: Every once in a while we'd go get a cup 559 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: of coffee or whatever. 560 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: But our our in our office literally took up a 561 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: city block, so sometimes it was just walking around the block. 562 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: A few times she and I were walking this time 563 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: along the Milwaukee. 564 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: River, which is very close to where we were, and 565 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: I was telling her about my platelet donation. 566 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: I said, you know, they called me up and I 567 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: went in and I was just telling her. 568 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool that they took the 569 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: blood out and grabbed the platelets and put it back. 570 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: And it was and it took a while, but it 571 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: was it was really kind of a neat experience. 572 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: And she stopped. 573 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: She looked at me, and she says, you know, if 574 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't for blood products and platelets, I probably wouldn't 575 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: have survived childhood leukemia and I wouldn't be here. And 576 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: I'd been working with her for a while. I cared 577 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: about her quite a bit, and I so there right 578 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: in front of he was somebody who was a recipient 579 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: of something that I have the ability to give. And 580 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: that was sort of my light bulb moment, saying, maybe 581 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: you should go back in two weeks when you're eligible 582 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: and do it again. So I did, and I started. 583 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: That's kind of what started my I call it now, 584 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: I call it my grateful habit, because it's a habit. 585 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: Now. I think, well, Alex has very lately provided something 586 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: that I think is very interesting. Every two seconds, someone 587 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: in the US needs blood and or platelets. Approximately twenty 588 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: nine thousand units of red blood cells are needed every day, 589 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: every day, twenty nine thousand, and only three percent of 590 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: our population is providing it. And I do know that 591 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: in a mass housery event, they almost always run out 592 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: of blood and the last folks of the hospital die 593 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: because they don't have blood. Sure, just think about that 594 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: next time we have to endure a school shooting or 595 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: some jack doing something horrible. But these mash caasty events, 596 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: they run out of blood. 597 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can only have so much on hand 598 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: and well and have enough. 599 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: Nearly five thousand units of platelets and sixty five hundred 600 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: units of plasma are needed every day when they pull 601 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: it out of you. How many units is that? You know? 602 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: How many units you give per time? 603 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: So when I donate generally, they'll they'll they'll call it 604 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: a triple. And so to me, I think that's three. 605 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: It can be used by three different people. It's enough 606 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: to be used by three people. 607 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: That means if five thousand units of platelets are needed 608 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: for use a triple, that means we need about seventeen 609 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: hundred donors a day just to meet current demand. That's 610 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: a lot. That's a lot. A single car accident, victim, 611 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: chemical workuire as many as a hundred units of blood. 612 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: Blood and platelets cannot be manufactured. They can only come 613 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: from donors. That's stark if you really think about that 614 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: and understand that you or someone you love will be 615 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: in that position one day. So it puts a face 616 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: to giving platelets. And so you go back and you 617 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: start giving platelets a lot. Interestingly, your undergraduate degree, in 618 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: an odd way, starts to have a place in this 619 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: whole platelet thing for you, kind of because you spent 620 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: four years learning about storytelling and at some point you 621 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: decided storytelling could be part of this journey for you. 622 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of get I would say retriggered. 623 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: That's I've got these books on the on the table. 624 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was I think it was 625 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: early on in my platelet donating process. This is this 626 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: is before COVID that I started, but just poking around 627 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it was that made me 628 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: see it. Just stumbled up on this on a Facebook 629 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: page or something. This woman Gracelynn in California and her 630 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: aunt Melody were working on a photo project. Her aunt 631 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: Melody had survived childhood leukemia two and they were building 632 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: a photo project of they wanted to get a hundred 633 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: people who had survived cancer. And that's where this book 634 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: came from. Beyond Remission And it's is that her book. Yes, 635 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: this is their book that they published. It was just 636 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: a photo project at the time, and then they turned it. 637 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: This was the first thing that they published. 638 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: And Melody Lomboy, Melody Lomboy Low and Graceland Bateman yep. 639 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: And it's words of advice for thriving and it's lots 640 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: of stories, small story, small stories with big pictures of 641 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: cancer survivors right. 642 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: Yep, exactly. And this is these are just people in 643 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: their neighborhood, I mean, and around where they live in California. 644 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: So so this I thought it was a cool idea. 645 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: Then I also read what is it? 646 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: What is the purpose bond that book? 647 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: Behind that book? 648 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: The purpose behind that book is like, if you're going 649 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: through cancer, it's it's going to change it alone, it's 650 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: going to change your life. You're not alone, It's exactly it. 651 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: And it's worth celebrating that you're in remission. Not everybody 652 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: gets to that point. Or maybe they do and cancer 653 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: comes back. You should celebrate that you're that you're at 654 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: that point. 655 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: You should, but it's okay to hurt too. You're not alone. 656 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: Other people are going through the same thing that you are. 657 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: So you thought it was a cool I thought it 658 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: was a cool idea, and just it was just a 659 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: little trigger saying maybe I could tell some stories too, 660 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: But it was really it kind of started more going in. Initially, 661 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, somebody else is out there that's going 662 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: to this stuff, and I started trying to find a 663 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: specific person that I could sit there in the chair, 664 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: pray about, think about and focus on the fact that 665 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: they might need what I've got to give, knowing that 666 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: I can't dedicate it directly to them. Well you never 667 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: know that because it's all because of privacy rules and stuff. 668 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: But somebody while you're sitting there, while I'm sitting there, 669 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: so now, why you're giving platelets. 670 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm using one hand to type my story. I should 671 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: have thought. 672 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: About that, think about maybe somebody you're focusing on actually 673 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: who you might could be helping exactly. 674 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: It's my motivation, motivation and reminder to keep going in. 675 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes I go in though and I got to tell 676 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: you it's it's hard sometimes because I might not have 677 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: the energy. 678 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: But that's why I'm glad. It's a habit too. 679 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: And you'll see if you read through my posts every 680 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: once in a while, you'll find one that's like, you 681 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: know what, I don't have a story to but I'm 682 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: still here because somebody needs these things. But over time 683 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: I started to get connected to people that I knew 684 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: that were directly it let people I worked with, but 685 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: also through people like Graceland and Elodie who I've never 686 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: met personally but we're connected and still chat a lot. 687 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: They connected me to other people who had cancer. I mean, 688 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people in here. Some of the 689 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: people in this book I've told a story about or 690 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: shared their shared their experience as part of donating my platelets. 691 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: And I've kind of got there's several goals. One life saving, right, 692 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: It's who wouldn't want to save life. I'm not qualified 693 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: to be an EMT or a doctor or a firefighter 694 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I could sit there in 695 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: a chair and have blood taken. Another thing that I 696 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: want to do is honor the person that is going 697 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: through that cancer journey. 698 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: I watch my dad and my mother and I'll go 699 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: through it. 700 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know that I fully appreciated at the 701 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: time the amount of work that was for them, and 702 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: for my mom and for Michelle's dad and these people 703 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: and their families. It completely changes your life, and I 704 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: want to spend a little Instagram limits the number of 705 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: characters you can put in right, so I can spend 706 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of time honoring their journey at the 707 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: time while still being there in the chair and trying 708 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: to do something worthwhile. 709 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I'm sorry. 710 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say. 711 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: My other goal though, is to use that story to 712 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: maybe have somebody say, wow, I'm going through that too, 713 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: or I know somebody who's going through cancer. But the 714 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: main goal is, or the end goal is maybe I 715 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: should try and donate too and give it a try 716 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: like you guys you've tried the first time. Now after 717 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: finding out about it, I'm hoping that there's a whole 718 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: bunch of people out there who said I'll do that. 719 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 3: I can do that. So you talk to people first 720 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: and hear about their stories, and then just say I 721 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: give platelets. I father out of cancer, my father, I'm 722 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 3: all ot of cancer. I have very close friends who 723 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: had childhood leukemia that survived cancer, and I want to 724 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: respectfully put your story out there to encourage other people 725 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: to both fight through cancer and those who don't have 726 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: cancer to give. 727 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 2: That's pretty much. Yet I don't. 728 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: One thing that I consciously don't do is try and 729 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: put myself in the I know what you're going through mode, 730 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: because I don't know what they're going through. But I 731 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: always I never share somebody's story without talking to them first, 732 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: or messaging or whatever. 733 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: So do you have this community now? 734 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: I do? Now? 735 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: I think am up to maybe it's been eight years 736 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: and I've counted somewhere ninety to one hundred different people 737 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: that I've connected to because of these stories, all over 738 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: the country, all over the world. You know people in 739 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: New Zealand and England and other places that talk back 740 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: to me and we share messages. Some it may have 741 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: been a story and then I never heard from them 742 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: again or I didn't reach back out to them, and 743 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: I feel guilty about that as I was going through 744 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: I always I try to type it up and I've 745 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: got a Google doc that I use for it. 746 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: So reading back through those. 747 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I wonder how Steve's doing, and I 748 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: look back and Steve died two years ago, and it 749 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: made me cry because I don't I wish I could 750 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: keep track of and keeping contact with everyone. Some I'm 751 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm really super close to it and spend a lot 752 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: of time messaging back and forth, sometimes late at night, 753 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: which which Michelle is like, just go to bed, but 754 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: it's so Yeah, it's like a second family to me. 755 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: And I've connected with some really amazing people who are 756 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: inspiring the way that they handle. 757 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 3: This year, and the followers of family and all of 758 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: that creates kind of this thing you've got online too. 759 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I mean it's it's organic. 760 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't go I haven't gone out shouting to the 761 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: world or anything. Look what I'm doing. I just try 762 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: and share it and try to make it about them, 763 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: and it ends up being about me just by default 764 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: because I'm sharing my page. But that's not what I 765 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: wanted to want it to be about them and about 766 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: the need for for people to come in and do this. 767 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: And that concludes part one of my conversations with John Norman, 768 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 3: and you don't want to miss part two that's not 769 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: available to listen to together. Guys, We can change this country, 770 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: but it starts with you. I'll see you in Part two.