1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Mmmm. First of all, how are you, man, it's been 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: a while since we talks. I'm good. I am good. 3 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: It's it has been a while. It's good to kind of, 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: um get a break from from the craziness it was 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: that season and kind of just enjoy basketball without having 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: any kind of emotional attachment to any of these games 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: and just watching um greatness as it's been. It's been 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: pretty great games going on. How is the vacation and 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: it looks like you're all settled back into regular life now. Yeah, 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, the vacation was great. That said like it was. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to say I'm happy the Lakers lost, 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: because that's obviously not the case, but it was a 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: little bit of a blessing in disguise because man, when 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I was on that trip, uh, you know, with the 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: East Coast time and you know, because it's a you know, 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: it's an island, so you're starting early in the day, 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: it just was one. It was one of those things 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: where like, it's hard for me to even fathom how 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: that would have worked for me, And you too, have 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: consistently done those those postgame shows, so you know, it 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of it kind of worked out in that regard 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: because I didn't actually watch a ton of basketball. I 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: watched some, but not a ton while I was over there, 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: just because it was chaotic and his vacation and um, 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: obviously with all these games and shows, it was nice 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, spend some time with my 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: wife and just kind of get some distance from it. 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: But I'm happy to be back, and I think there's 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: quite a bit to talk about because we didn't even 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: get to do really a a postseason show, and so 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of what my goal is for today is 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: to do. I'm calling it a eulogy, but whatever it 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: is you want to call it, just a like a 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: remembrance of what this team was, what went wrong, and 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: then just kind of looking forward as to in a 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: macro sense, what they need to get better at, because 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: obviously it's hard to say for sure until the actual 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: off season and you get to see the really defined 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: list of targets and the cap situation and and all 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: those sorts of things, and when and when Rob has 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: more detail about you know, what Crusoe wants to do 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: and what Shrewder wants to do and blah blah blah 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: blah blah. Um. But we can have a general conversation 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: about what their needs are. And I think you can 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: frame a lot of that just from the way these 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: other playoff teams are playing. That that's kind of that's 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of what what I've been really taking away in 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: the last week. So I guess I guess a good 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: place to start is this, Like, aside from the obvious injuries, 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, which are out of the Lakers control, Um, 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: what did you think was the death nail for that 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: team in particular this Laker team, Laker team. Yeah, it's 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: kind of tough to separate like injuries from it, right. 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: So like in my notes, I was just looking at 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: the notes, and they have twenty five different starting lineups. Now, like, 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: that's fine if it's just like a few players going 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: out like three and d wings kind of about But 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: when you have like your main shock creators out like 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: Lebron and a D your main defensive acres out for 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: a long time, it really just changes the the change 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: the team, right, Like you need your main guys in there, 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: and you kind of separate the season into a few 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: different parts. So like that twenty one and six kind 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: of start is what kind of sticks out to me, 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: And from there, that's where everything kind of dropped off, 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: even with a d not being his his full self 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: to start the season. You kind of saw with the 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: theories that we talked about in the off season, and 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: that's mainly ly the thing that killed us to me 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: is like just not being able to have any lineups 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: with with our main guys in there. This team was 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: built around and elite defense to go around. It's two 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: stars to go around Anthony Davis to go around Lebron James, 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: and when you have one of those missing for extended times, 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: it's tough for your team to kind of be that team. 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: And it just like for reference here the Phoenix Suns 77 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: team we played, they they only had nine different starting 78 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: lineups compared to twenty five different different ones from US, 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul Devin Booker played in almost every single 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: one of those. I think both of those guys missed 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: two games total um during the season. Spells my main 82 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: kind of killer for me. What about you? What did 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: you think kind of derailed the season? So, I mean 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: obviously that that line of consistency was a huge part 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: of it. I'm not going to dive too far into 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: this next thing yet because I want to talk about 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: it when we talk more about the off season. But 88 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: I did think that there was a glaring example of 89 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: a lack of shot making and skill out of our 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: role players, something that other teams don't have an issue 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: with or as much of an issue with. Um. I 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: think that. You know, someone asked me last night on Twitter. 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: They said, well, I agree with you. So what's going 94 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: on across the hall, you know, with the Lakers, Like, like, 95 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 1: what do you think their deal is? And I said, 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, Lebron and a d being two of the 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: top five players in the league, and the fact that 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Frank is so good with his defensive scheming and coaching, 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that the roster just in general was 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: such a good defense I think covered for a lot 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: of those problems. And you know, again it's this is 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: not a catastrophe type of problem obviously, because they just 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: won the title and they took two games off of 104 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: that Sun's team. That's really good. Like we can look 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: back at the Sun's thing now. Like you know, I 106 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: talked throughout the season, I think myself in particular told 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: you that I was high on the Suns because I 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: thought the roster made sense as a playoff team but 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: they're even better than I thought they would be. Like, 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: the Suns are really really good. They do all the 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: things extremely well that you need to do to win 112 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: a championship. And with Lebron and a D on the 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: floor through the first four games, you know, not counting 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: that ridiculous attempt that he had in Game six when 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: his groin was basically useless to begin with, they were 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: plus nine point three points per one out of possessions 117 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: with Lebron and a D on the floor. So the 118 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: Lakers were doing damage to a really good basketball team. 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: They were healthy, so this isn't like a catastrophe. That said, 120 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: I do think that the lack of skill and shot 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: making from those role players is a key weak point 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: in the roster if you have to point to something, 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: And even some of the stuff like Carusoe shooting over 124 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: during the season and uh Kuzma shooting higher than he 125 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: did the last couple of years, some of that came 126 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: crashing down to earth in the postseason in a way 127 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: that made you feel like maybe it was a blip 128 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and not a trend um. Would you agree that that 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: that's a that's a weak point, Yeah, for sure, But 130 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: I think like it's kind of tough when like you 131 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: have two kind of guys on max deals, Like when 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: you're building your team around it's mostly going to be 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: of these like role players, and like these role players 134 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: are getting better and better, like we've seen in the playoffs, 135 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: like with Phoenix, there guys can pretty much score in 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: three levels, right you have like a Michael Bridges who's 137 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: not just like a three point shooter. You can also 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: put it on the floor. And I think that's where 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: they need to kind of improve the roster. I'm not 140 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: sure how they will, Like you need guys that catch 141 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: and also read like read on closeouts, read went to 142 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: attack and went to shoot. I'm not sure what to take, 143 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Like we talked about this a lot, Like I'm not 144 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: really sure what to take from the playoffs, like with 145 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: all those guys hurt and we we saw guys scared 146 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: to shoot, and I'm not sure if that's like a 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: confidence thing or what to do with that, or if 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: that's just like this season being kind of wonky. But 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I do agree, like we need more, we need like 150 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: people who can shoot. Man, we're singing in the playoffs 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: that that's such a premium. The Clippers are staying in 152 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 1: so many of these games because they just hit ridiculous shots. 153 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: They can hit threes and and I was over here 154 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: just praying that we can hit a catch and shoot 155 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: three pointer once in a while, and these dudes are 156 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: just flinging shots. So trying to get some more shooting 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: in him. But that's been the topic for for like 158 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons now, trying to get more and 159 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: more shooting um. And I think you can kind of 160 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: work with that, like you have a bigger margin for 161 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: error when you have your stars playing, but like when 162 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: you have one of them out, you need shooting. And 163 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: we saw the kind of important importance of that. Phoenix 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of won the math game so many times because 165 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: we just were shooting are open shots. So I do 166 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: agree with that. I just don't know how you do 167 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: that on like minimum heals and without just keeping your 168 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: players that you've had last year, because they're going to 169 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: be really strapped on the salary cap because you have 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: two guys already making the max the max money. So 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where they do that from. But I 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: do agree they need more any more shooting on this team, 173 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: and you can't go you can't be shootingcent a series 174 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: and expect to really win. So for starters, like the 175 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: cap situation is what it is. The it's important to 176 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge that teams like the Clippers also have two MAX 177 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: players and that you know, first of Paul and Devin 178 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Booker fetch massive salaries, and you know, Drew holiday In, 179 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: Jana Santana Coumbo and Chris Milton all take huge salaries. 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Like the thing is is, like guys like Reggie Jackson, 181 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: they come available every year they do. Like a version 182 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: of Reggie Jackson comes available, you know, a Marcus Morris 183 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: or whoever it is. I'm just giving random example. Sometimes 184 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you have to do some you know, some uh, some 185 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, manipulation with salaries to make it work. Sometimes 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: you gotta throw in a second round pick. Sometimes you 187 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: got to get their teams involved. I'm not saying that 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to get you know, extremely 189 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: high quality skilled shot makers, but that said, I do 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: think that as a point of emphasis, instead of going 191 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: after the Drummonds of the world, maybe you go out 192 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: of your way to try to get the auto porter 193 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: type instead, you know, And obviously he didn't even become 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: a buyout guy. This year. But like the point is 195 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: is like that's the archetype that I'd like to see 196 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: them go after, because the Lakers added some suit like 197 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: under Drummond is a significant piece given their situation. And 198 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: so as we head into this offseason, I think, like, 199 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: you know, you and I talked a lot this year 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: about how deep the Lakers are, right, Like, they are 201 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: twelve guys that they could play on any given night 202 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: if you counted McKinney and eleven if you don't, So 203 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: death was never an issue for them, but it was 204 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: all depth that could play one way, you know, like 205 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: almost every role player provided mediocre spot up shooting, really 206 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: good effort and defense, and like not a whole lot 207 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: of off the dribble stuff, you know what I mean, 208 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: even there even from the guards, Like even a guy 209 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: like Caruso, like he could put the ball on the floor, 210 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: he could run some pick and roll that he wasn't 211 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: a guy like like when you had him running pick 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: and roll counter to campaign, campaign was ten times better 213 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,119 Speaker 1: and it ended up, you know, manifesting in the scoreboard. 214 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm saying is is like I'm 215 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: not saying you ditch all of that identity, but maybe 216 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: it's time to try to get a little bit more 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: versatility on that front and try to get it so 218 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: that maybe you have the ability to call an audible 219 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: and go to some more shot making and ploymaking and 220 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: things along those lines, just that you're more versatile. And then, 221 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: like you said, shooting just absolutely without a shadow of 222 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: a doubt. You know, the Lakers were able to overcome 223 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: their lack of shooting as a result of their freak 224 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: top end talent and the fact that they defended so well. 225 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: But I moving forward, especially with how good Brooklyn is 226 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: going to be when they're healthy, the Clippers kind of 227 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: figuring things out, Phoenix being on the radar now with 228 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: it with a number of good teams that are in 229 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: the picture now that worked in, I think the Lakers 230 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: simply have to be a better shooting team. That has 231 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: to be a point of emphasis. Um that That's kind 232 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: of where I'm at with it. So it's funny that 233 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: you bring up like Reggie Jackson and he's on a 234 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: minimum deal right and he's absolutely outperforming his contract. Um, 235 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: I think he kind of outperformed it last year as well. 236 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: He's ever he's getting like dirty points he had you know, 237 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the two biggest shots in the game 238 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: last night. But that's kind of what we envisioned kind 239 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: of Shrewder to be, right, like kind of like that 240 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: scoring guard that can hit big shots, who can attack 241 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: the rim um. I think we saw Shrewd as a 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: little bit more of attacker. But I think that's where 243 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: like the Lakers kind of poured their resources into right, 244 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: they gave up a first round pick, they gave built 245 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: Danny Green, who you know is very polarizing and Lakers Twitter, 246 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: but I mean he was a shooter and shot forty 247 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: pc from three this year, a good defender. Like that's 248 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: where they kind of poured the resource. Us is out too, 249 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: and again, like that's how I'm gonna remember this season 250 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: is like it's a very theoretical season. It felt like 251 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: every time one guy came back, another guy came out, 252 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: We're like, Okay, imagine now when he comes back, how 253 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: this will look. And then like he went out, like 254 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, Lebron, Lebron went out, and then a D 255 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: came back for a couple of games. We're like, oh, 256 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: imagine when Lebron comes back. Lebron game back. A D 257 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: wasn't himself, like, so it's it's really hard for me 258 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: to kind of judge like this roster. I feel like 259 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot of like hindsight, people are like killing 260 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: Rob Boblinka kind of for the roster, killing rob O 261 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Lincoln for the roster. Here went over the summer, you know, 262 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: they were kind of lauded as like they kind of 263 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: um killed the off season, you know, yet Kendrick Perkins 264 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: also saying stuff like, you know, they really laughed all 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: these other teams, and I feel like we never really 266 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: got to see it. And I feel like the drumm 267 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: And edition really we can kind of get into that 268 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: as well. The drum Edition really kind of derailed their 269 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: identity in my opinion, like they really thought a little 270 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: too hard to try to fit him in instead of 271 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of doing what they were doing to try to 272 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: build to the playoffs. It just felt like a lot 273 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: of like I felt like every game was just like, oh, 274 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: did Drummond kind of fit in? Years drum And kind 275 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: of getting used to it, and I feel like it 276 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of killed their identity there a little bit. Their 277 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: identity was like this hard nose, defensive kind of team 278 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: where the center would just you know, be like a 279 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: finisher a lot finishing and drum and obviously sees himself 280 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: more is that, you know, getting these post edges and 281 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: not blaming him. I mean there are a lot of 282 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: injuries around. It just felt like a really weird season. 283 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, Dennis Shrewder also coming in and out through 284 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: COVID protocols, Like it's hard for me to take what 285 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: he did as well in the play he's really struggled 286 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: once Lebron and a D when I was just a 287 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: really weird season, and like going after the GM and 288 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: all that, like they built this team around a defense 289 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: and the stars man and and we never got to 290 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: see it really, so I'm just wondering, like where they 291 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: where they go in terms of team evaluation, player evaluation, 292 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Like for you, how do you evaluate these players? I 293 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: guess that really struggled when the lights got right, so 294 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: and and this is you know, this goes back to 295 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: something that I think we have to come back at 296 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: a D four and and also to your initial point 297 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: at the beginning about continuity, because like the Lakers did 298 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: play with a D at five for the most part 299 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: in last post season. I think it was like six 300 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: of the minutes yeah, and then I think, I think 301 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: in his minutes in this postseason it was kind of 302 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: a similar ratio, but that's still just a little more 303 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: than half. And you know, you said something a couple 304 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: of seconds ago that stood out to me. He said, 305 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder was supposed to be our Reggie Jackson, And 306 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: yes he was, but he's Dennis Shrewder playing with absolutely 307 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: no space to operate. And meanwhile, I see a clip 308 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: in the game last night of Reggie Jackson isolating against 309 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert at the top of the key. There are 310 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: three help side defenders on the left and they're all 311 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: within three ft of their shooter because they can't leave them. 312 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: And Reggie Jackson mixes up Rudy Gobert gets him on 313 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: his hip, kind of jumps back into him a little 314 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: bit and does one of those you know, talent Horton 315 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: Tucker the reverse style layups, and and gets a finish. 316 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: We are setting Dennis Shrewder up to fail. We are 317 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: setting Roun up to fail because of the fact that 318 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: we are playing an archaic form of basketball. And it's 319 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: funny because yesterday I was I was talking around because 320 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking about some of the Lebron's great playoff 321 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: performances after you know, Kevin Durants amazing game the other 322 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: night and I came across the two thousand fourteen Heat 323 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: on the road in Brooklyn. They had just dropped game three. 324 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: This is that, you know, that really stacked but old 325 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Brooklyn team and Lebron just put on a masterpiece, like 326 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: a forty nine point masterpiece. You actually beat him with 327 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: a pass to to Chris Boss, which was funny, um, 328 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: but it was all bosh at the five with you know, 329 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: d Wade was the only non shooter, but d Wade 330 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: could by the end of there, had become such a 331 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: good cutter that it was he almost provided his own 332 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: form of spacing. Like the health defender had to be 333 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: so aware of what Wade was doing because he couldn't 334 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't lose him on a cut and h and Lebron. 335 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Lebron just was operating in a ton of space. And 336 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is seven years ago, man, seven years 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: ago that the that the Heat had figured out that 338 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: that small ball was the way of the future. And 339 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: and it just bothers me because, like you know, Jason 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: Maples has been getting a lot of crap on the 341 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: t l for saying that that A d should be 342 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: a full time center. He's right, he should be a 343 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: full time center. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be the 344 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: centers on the roster. There should be, but they should 345 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: strictly play in games when eighties resting or when eighties 346 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: off the floor, that's when they should be playing. The 347 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: Lakers need to embrace a modern form of basketball, and 348 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: the entire reason why they don't it is because of 349 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and his fear of guarding centers because he 350 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: thinks it's gonna wear them out. Meanwhile, on the other 351 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: end of the floor, he's playing in this like chaotic 352 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: scrumball where every time he puts the ball on the 353 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: floor there's three help defenders up on beneath him, and 354 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: he's landing on people and he's getting bumps and bruises. 355 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: The play where he hurt is growing DeAndre and is 356 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: completely ignoring a center and standing under the basket and 357 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: and it helps side and it just you know that 358 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: that's like, that's been my biggest takeaway from this whole thing, 359 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: is like the Lakers were able to win playing of 360 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: their minutes in an archaic form of basketball because they 361 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: were so good defensively, because Lebron and a d were 362 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: so good, but they were actively handicapping themselves. And I 363 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: just I think that at some point someone's got to 364 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: have that tough conversation with him and be like many 365 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: centers like you have come before, including Chris Bosh, have 366 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: embraced this modern form of basketball. It's going to help Shrewder, 367 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: it's going to help Lebron, it's gonna help you man, 368 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: and and and and hopefully at that point they can 369 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: start to you know, start to see because the Lakers 370 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: offense has been a problem for both of these years, 371 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: especially in the half court. Even the Chain Beanship team 372 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: was a terrible half court offense. It's like a real 373 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: problem that everyone just forgets exists because they're NBAH champions. Yeah, 374 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: and we've kind of litigated this, like it's pretty clear 375 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis does not want to play center full time, 376 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and I just don't see that changing at all. Like 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: it's just sometimes this is what happens, Like he wants 378 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: to be the power forward and he feels like it 379 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: makes it easier on him, and I think that's what 380 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna move going forward. It's just like, I think 381 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: the main key for me next season is Anthony Davis 382 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: coming with a sense of urgency, right Like, I feel 383 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: like he never came with that this season, even when 384 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: the Lakers started really well. Um, he was basically he 385 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: was basically just a jump shooter. He was basically just 386 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: a spacer, right like. He was never aggressive attacking the rim. 387 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: And I think that's where the main thing for me 388 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: for him playing power forward, Like, if he wants to 389 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: play power forward, that's fine, it's just like I feel 390 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: like it really baits him into being just a pure 391 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: jump shooter or settling at the top, right, being able 392 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: to be defended by smaller guys. Um, he doesn't attack 393 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the offensive rebound the same way when he's not the center. 394 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that's all well and fine, but I feel 395 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: like your centers have to be guys who can either 396 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: protect the rim or be able to really switch out, 397 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: and I think that's where they need to kind of 398 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: find that kind of balance there. I thought Dwight Howard 399 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: was a really big part of that last year. That's 400 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: why the Lakes were so successful in my opinion, even 401 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: when Anthony Davis playing a lot of power forward, as 402 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: they had a center that was Dwight Howard's a really 403 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: smart high basketball like you guy really can protect the rim, 404 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: and that's where they need to look this season. I 405 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: don't see Anthony Davis playing center full time next year. 406 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. Like he obviously 407 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: has made that clear to the front office, to the team, 408 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: to the coaching staff that he does not want to do. 409 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: And I think there's ways you can kind of protect that, 410 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: but he's got to be more aggressive. I want a 411 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: sense of urgency next year, and I just don't think 412 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: we got that this season. And it's fine, he can 413 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: have a past for that he was injured, um, but 414 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: I want to see him attacking the rim attacks, which 415 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: is like and you need I want to lop through 416 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: at that center position as well. I think it's really 417 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: tough when you have a big guy who can't jump, 418 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: who also has a tough time catching. They can just 419 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: sit another center right there, and it just really forces 420 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: him into jump shooting, like litigating whether he can be 421 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: a center or power forward, like if he's gonna play 422 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: center when it matters, I think it's okay, Like I 423 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's fine. The Lakers are going 424 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: to live with that, but he has to be more aggressive. 425 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: We can't have this like jump shooting guy who's just 426 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: not engaged in most of the games, and I think 427 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: he will be next season. The one town side to 428 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: to the to that approach that I think goes glossed 429 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: over all the time is like, you know, the Lakers 430 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: had some stretches against Phoenix where they went small with 431 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: particularly in Game one, and they got they got their 432 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: ass kicked. And part of the reason for that, in 433 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, is like when you're so used to playing 434 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: one way all season, because a D refuses to play 435 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the five during the regular season except in very tiny bursts, 436 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: you don't get the reps that you need. And what's 437 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: crazy is like, you know, if if a D is 438 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: not doing any pick and roll coverage all season because 439 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: he's playing off ball and help, but then suddenly in 440 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: a high leverage moment he's asked to do that something 441 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced barely all year, I think that it 442 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: can manifest in them struggling and and have moments like 443 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: they did in Phoenix where they tricked off Game one 444 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: in a in a way that could have potentially cost 445 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: them the series. You know, and and it's just one 446 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: of those things that practice what you plan on leaning 447 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: on when the time comes like it. Maybe the compromise 448 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: here is instead of going sixty at the five in 449 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: the postseason in one a d at the four in 450 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: the regular season, maybe you go sixty eight at the 451 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: five and the regular season two and at least get 452 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: some or some percentage of it there, so that the 453 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Lakers at least are comfortable going to that option frequently 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: because they have the practice and the reps, and and 455 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: and they've leaned on it. In that regard, I do 456 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: agree with you that the Lakers center has to be 457 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: a vertical spacer and someone I can guard in space. 458 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: I hope that the bridge isn't burned with Dhite Howard 459 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: because he was a really good fit. The best case 460 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: scenario for that is the Sixers going down in flames, 461 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: because if they go down in flames, dwightes know Dwight 462 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: might miss what he had in l a um. The 463 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: trouble is is that the Sixers are gonna be able 464 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: to give him a raise on that veteran minimum without 465 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: affecting their cap situation. So it could be a matter 466 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: of a few hundred thousand dollars in whether or not 467 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: that ends up being a factor, but yeah, that's the 468 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: kind of guy that you'd like to see them go 469 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: after for sure with that spot. So so it can 470 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: be a vertical spacer or like a three point there, 471 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and which is why, like I thought, Marcusol was just 472 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: like that perfect fit next to a D. Right Like 473 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: we talked about this all over the off season as well. 474 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: It allows a D to be the five kind of 475 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: on offense, right like with Marcusol, he can be the 476 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: five on offense. And it was still still weird that 477 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: even in the even when those two played together. I 478 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: think this was more because of eighties maybe aggression early on, 479 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: but Mark was still the guy in the dunker spot 480 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: a lot of the times, which is kind of strange, 481 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: where a D was kind of the spacer there. I 482 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: thought those two should be switched, but I just thought 483 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: that would be the perfect fit. And we kind of 484 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: saw that to start the season even with those some 485 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: of those wonky lineups, even with a D not being aggressive. 486 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: I think they were like twenty one and six or 487 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: something when they when they started started the season with 488 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: those two being the two bigs and once a d 489 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: got hurt all that kind of drill, But I just 490 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: thought that was kind of the perfect fit. And they 491 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: really went away with that to kind of, you know, 492 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: go to the Andre Drummond experiment and try to fit 493 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: him in. And like I said earlier, I thought that 494 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: really derailed kind of their identity this season. Like I 495 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: love that fit with Mark. I thought it lets a 496 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: d B the five, not just a d B the five, 497 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: have a guy that finds him when he seals down low, 498 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: have another passer next to Lebron. So I hope I 499 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: will get into free agency maybe later, maybe another pod, 500 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: but just I hope Mark, and I know he's signed 501 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: for next year. I hope he comes back. I just 502 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: I would like to see those two kind of build 503 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more chemistry. I think those two only 504 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: played like twenty something games together this season or something 505 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: some low number. I'm not sure exactly how many it was, 506 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: but just to have another guy that can pass like that. 507 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think E. D S even played with another 508 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: big man that can pass like that as well, um 509 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: in his time in New Orleans or with the Lakers. 510 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: So just another guy there who can space the floor. 511 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: I think Mark out up to like as a three 512 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: point shooter as well. And and that's the only thing, 513 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: right when when we talked about a D five, what 514 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: do we mean, we mean that he's not able to 515 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: be at the basket, right. And that's where Mark kind 516 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: of flips that you get the size of a center 517 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: while also allowing a D being inside because Mark Hasty 518 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: perspected um from outside of like five five to ten feet. 519 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's where I kind of want to see. That's 520 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: the balance you can kind of fit. If you don't 521 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: have a lab threat, you can at least have a 522 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: guy that's space the three point line that gives Mark 523 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: like you were talking about, gives Dennis Shrewder driving lanes, 524 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: give Lebron driving lanes. Um, how many times do we 525 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: see that Phoenix just pinch, you know, right at the 526 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: nails and there's no room because you have drumming down low. 527 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Even when a d was playing, they don't they're not 528 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: really worried about him as a jump shooter in that series. 529 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: So that that's kind of what I want to see 530 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: this this offseason is a little bit more care on 531 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: that on that position. Um, it felt like they really 532 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: try to fit Andre Drummond in and I think that 533 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: experiment kind of didn't go as planned. I'm not sure, 534 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: and Drummond obviously doesn't want to be back on the minimum, 535 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: so I think that was probably the last game we 536 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: see him him and the liquor uniform. I don't know, 537 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: it'll it'll be interesting to see. I mean, it's clear 538 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: that he wants some port into the mid level exception, 539 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna come down to what is available, 540 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: because you know, honestly, if there isn't a reasonably reliable 541 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: perimeter player available, I think you have to take from 542 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: him because a d is gonna miss probably fifty games 543 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: next year. Uh, and they will play him at the 544 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: power forward a ton and you do need depth at 545 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: the center position. I think that's just the harsh reality 546 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: of the situation. I mean, but like if if someone 547 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: comes up in that mold of the of the knockdown 548 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: three point shooter who can do some you know, really 549 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: low level playmaking and hold his own on the defensive end, 550 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: I think you have to favor that. But it but 551 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: it has to be like a knockdown three point shot 552 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: like this, the Lakers have one guy on the roster 553 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: that you're scared of if he catches when he's open 554 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: and that's k CP. Everyone else, You're like, no, you 555 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: might make it everyone else. It's like, oh, Cruis has 556 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: been but you know when Cruiso shoots a three and 557 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: you're the other team, You're like, we can live with that, 558 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They don't have that that 559 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, that that Buddy Healed type of of just knockdown. 560 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: Like if he's opening, Seth Curry, whatever it is, he 561 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: catches it, you're panicking. We don't have that on the roster, 562 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: and so that needs to be priority number one. And 563 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: if that's not available, then I think you do have 564 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: to bring back Drummond for depth. Um. But you know, 565 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: like as far as the overall totality of the strategy 566 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: going into this summer, this is something that Darius Soriano 567 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: said from from like her film rooms the Laker Filming podcast. 568 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: He had said, you know, there's no point and this 569 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: is something you and I have said on and off 570 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: throughout the year. There's no point in overreacting to what 571 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: just happened because Dennis Shooter was playing really well before 572 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the COVID suspension. You know, I vividly remember I was 573 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: on a ski trip in in in Park City and 574 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: like literally like watching him just destroy the jazz, like 575 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: just destroy the jazz by himself. Um uh, just executing 576 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: and pick and roll, picking them apart with the pass 577 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: and finishing at the basket. Just looking amazing. And and 578 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: he was he was passing way better than he had 579 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: in his entire career, something that going into the season 580 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I talked about being kind of a little bit of 581 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: a weakness for him. You know, he's a little bit 582 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: of a tunnel vision guy. He had grown, you know, 583 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: playing with Lebron and seeing the floor a little bit 584 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: better as a passer, and he was really kind of 585 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: peeking on that end, on that end of the floor. 586 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: And then bam, go sit in your house for two 587 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: weeks and then come right back for for really high 588 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: leverage you know, playoff basketball. And that's that's tough. And 589 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: then the continuity stuff with with Lebron and all the guys, 590 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Lebron being a primary playmaker all of a sudden after 591 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: playing you know, roughly thirty games without him, there were 592 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: so many weird factors in there that made it's so 593 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: that it's hard to really gauge what their needs are. 594 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: I think there are clear obvious needs like shooting in 595 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: a little bit of shot making. But it's hard to 596 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: say for sure whether or not they need to overhaul 597 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: things because what you know, as Lebron said in his 598 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: postgame press or like we never got to see our 599 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: full team. You know, even when they were all out there, 600 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: it was they were still kind of they were like 601 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: in game one of that series against the Suns. You know, 602 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: the Suns are in like a well oiled machine, just 603 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: on the tracks, going full speed, and the Lakers are 604 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: like in training camp mode. Literally there. They might as 605 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: well have been in training camp. That's where they were at. 606 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: That's something that I talked about frequently. It's just like 607 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: a rhythm that you have to build up, Like even 608 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: for Lebron is like a jump shooter and like as 609 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: a ball handler and stuff. It's just hard to just 610 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: go from not doing it to just suddenly doing it, 611 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, at a really high level. And and that's 612 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: why it's too hard to to really gauge. And then lastly, 613 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: as far as judging that team, I think we can 614 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: all agree that the spacing was a legitimate issue that 615 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: made it really difficult to evaluate. Even something as simple 616 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: as how is Lebron aging because you're right, they were 617 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: just sitting on the nails in help side, and if 618 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: he beat his man to the to the to the 619 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: basket left or right, he had to like immediately spin 620 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: back or cut back or do something like that or 621 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: try to bowl somebody over. There was there was nothing 622 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: that resembled the type of spacing that the Clippers had, 623 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: and part of that as roster design, but another part 624 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: of that was literally, in my time launching basketball, I've 625 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: never seen a group of role players get the hips 626 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: as bad as the Lakers did. Because they are limited 627 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: in some ways, they aren't as bad as they looked. 628 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: That was an outlier. Crazy, just complete mental breakdown of 629 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: the supporting guest. Everyone played well below what their regular 630 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: season performance was, and some of that is like some 631 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: of that has to be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah, 632 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: for sure, it's kind of hard to tell like that, 633 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: this was a season full of like no fans as well, right, 634 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you get to the 635 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: playoffs and these stadiums are packed. I don't know if 636 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: that has anything to do with it. It's kind of 637 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: hard to judge. And like going off Dennis Shrewder. I 638 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: always say people are gonna totally forget that he had 639 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: like two awesome games in Game two in Game three 640 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: that the Lakers don't win out of those without him, 641 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Like he had like twenty points and he was getting 642 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: to the rack and those again, those games were next 643 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: to Lebron and a d and then obviously when those 644 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: two went out, I think in game game five he 645 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: had he went over nine and then in Game six 646 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: it was a blowout after the first quarter. But like that, 647 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: that's what's so tough, Like I feel like he had 648 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: a really good season and it's not like it's not 649 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: like this is his first playoffs, right, Like he's a 650 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: guy that um even lastly in the oil Cloma City, 651 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Like he had a good playoff run. It's not like 652 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: the light should be well. I was in the bubble 653 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: as well, but he's played in playoff games before as well, 654 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know how to judge it. Like he 655 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: went out with COVID twice, I think, right, I think 656 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: it was two separate times that he got he got 657 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: put into the protocols and every time he came back 658 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: he really struggled. And that's again as hard as judge 659 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: like where these teams go. And the Lakers are kind of, um, 660 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: kind of in a trap here because they can't just 661 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: let him walk and then like sign somebody with that 662 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: money as well, right, so like you're gonna have to 663 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: resign him, Like I don't think he's going to get 664 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: the number that he you know, got offered the extension, 665 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: but like they're gonna probably bring him back. And and 666 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: that's where like it's it's really tough to kind of 667 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: judge what happened in the playoffs, Like I don't I 668 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: don't want to go off of six games to ruin 669 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: the whole season, right, like six games going versus like 670 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: the regular season and that sample, I think it's kind 671 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: of more important. And and that's where they'll kind of judge. 672 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: At KCP, I think they kind of know what he has. Again, 673 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't think one bad series kind of mix up, 674 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: and he also wasn't healthy I think for a full 675 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: part of that as well, So judging all those guys, 676 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma as well, like it it's really tough. I 677 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: think they're gonna go into next year and try to 678 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: run not run it back, but bringing back most of 679 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: the players that they had and try to see what 680 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: happens was because they were shooting a well to start 681 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: the season and when you have the team healthy and 682 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: before Andrew Drummand came on, you know, like you talked 683 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: about the spacing a lot, Like I thought it was 684 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: great when you had marked out there with a D 685 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: and then Dennis Shrewder like that's that's what they kind 686 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: of switched out, right, They switched out a three and 687 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: D shooter and Danny Green. We all again, Danny Green 688 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: very very polarizing, but he is a spacer. He's a 689 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: guy that teams usually do respect, except in the finals, 690 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: but teams usually do kind of it would have been 691 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the second shooter that teams would have feared to leave 692 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: open without a doubt exactly. Yes, So he's a guy 693 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: that teams do do stay on. Like you talked about 694 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Alex Cruz as first that can hit for three, teams 695 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: are still going to kind of leave him open, right, 696 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: He's just not that kind of volume shooter. He needs 697 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: to be kind of wide open to take a three. 698 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Danny Green, people are gonna respect him on the shooter, 699 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: and they kind of switched it out for Denni Shrewder. 700 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: And the point wants to bring another shot creator, a 701 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: guy who can create off ball screens, a guy that 702 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: can you know, run screen and roll with a D 703 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: and kind of get him looks that just didn't happen 704 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and continuity whatever you want to blame 705 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: it on, Like I think, I think it deserves kind 706 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: of another chance to kind of see it. I thought, 707 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Dennis is, you know, like his competitiveness really kept us 708 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of games. I thought his energy, like 709 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: when we were kind of dead, similar to Montres Harold 710 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: in a little bit a little bit lesser extent, but 711 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: like his energy and effort kind of kept us in 712 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these games. And I find with him 713 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of I think he'll be back for sure. And 714 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: I think that's where it's tough to kind of evaluate 715 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: who who played, who played bad in the playoffs and 716 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: who didn't. Just with this weird season and you know, 717 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: with the fans as well, Lakers were at like what 718 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: eight thousand will Phoenix had, like I think sixty thousand 719 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: or something like in all these kind of differences really 720 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: went into that series. And the Suns are really good. 721 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Like I was saying before, I think you said Lakers 722 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: in five and I was like, oh, man, I think 723 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: the Sun's team is super legit. I think it's gonna 724 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: be like six or seven. And they ended up winning 725 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: the series. But yeah, that's it's tough, man, when you're 726 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the seventh seed going against a really in a lot 727 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: of chemistry on that Sun's team. Man, wish that wasn't 728 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: I wish that wasn't the one thing that like, you know, 729 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: the core formula of Lebron and a D plus leape 730 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: defense clearly works because, you know what, whether regardless of 731 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: what is around that, you know, whether or not they 732 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: play a D at the five or at you know, 733 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: inferior shooting or really good shooting. Because even those two 734 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: games they won in this series, they didn't shoot the ball. 735 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: Well that was the crazy part. You know, Laker fans 736 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: kept falling back on this idea, like, hey, just wait 737 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: untill we start knocking down shots, you know what I mean. 738 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: And and so you know, I don't think you know, 739 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: include game two they won in Phoenix, and yeah, Chris 740 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: Paul didn't play much in the second half, but that 741 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: was because partially because campaign was literally lighting us on fire, 742 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and they were leaning heavily on 743 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: that I don't think they wanted to play two tiny 744 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: guards against that big Laker lineup. And like the thing 745 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: is is, like the silver lining here is that core 746 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: concept of the way that this team is built. You know, 747 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: healthy Lebron and a d elite defense is hard for 748 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: teams to deal with. And and you know, Phoenix might 749 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: not lose a home game this year. You know, they're 750 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: they're that good, and they're that good at home, and 751 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers beat them on their home floor, you know, 752 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: comfortably they want but I think they want by like 753 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: ten points or so. You know, like that was a 754 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, there are reasons to be optimistic, but like 755 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to talk about the off season 756 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: in a more detailed way later on um in a 757 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: few weeks. But I think the core principle needs to 758 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: be bring back everybody you can by by signing them 759 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: to their normal whether it's you know, player options in 760 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: the case of someone like Tread's, or it's a you know, 761 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar year contract with someone like Shrewder 762 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: or whatever you can get, CRUs so forth, whatever whatever 763 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: you can get. Just just get everybody under contract, because 764 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a bunch of those intermedior intermediate 765 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: contracts that you can put together into trades so that 766 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: if something does pop up that looks like an opportunity, 767 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: you know whether it is for someone like Buddy Healed 768 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: or like a C. J. Mccollumn or something. And I'm 769 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: just going random exam polls. I haven't really thought these through, 770 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: but the point is that you needed to peach a 771 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: piece together contracts. You need the contracts first. So I 772 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: think that I think the move is to sign everybody 773 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: and deal with the the cap consequences later. And and 774 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: that because the only way they're gonna be able to 775 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: improve the roster, because I don't think they want a 776 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: hardcap themselves. Again, the only way they're going to be 777 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: able to improve the roster is the smaller portion in 778 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: the mid level. Of the mid level exception veteran minimums 779 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: and trades. That's third, But that's the totality of their 780 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: their options here, and so I think I think that's 781 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: the smart path. Is there anything else you wanted to 782 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: touch on kind of surface level with this Laker season 783 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: before we move on to some of these other series. No, 784 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this was like a really frustrating 785 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of season. Um, just in totality, I feel like 786 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: the second or third most important thing was like HDS development, 787 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: which is funny, like you don't usually do that on 788 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: a championship level team, but it felt like his development 789 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of became one of the most important parts of 790 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: the season just the way it down. We'll see how 791 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: he kind of moves forward next year. I know you 792 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: have um different feelings about him, but like the Lakers 793 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: at least got something out of this season. I think 794 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: that's that was the main thing, and the next year 795 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: you hope that you know, you just stay healthy. Um. 796 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Injuries is a tough thing to kind of blame the 797 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: whole season on, considering there's like injuries every year, but 798 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: I just think this one was really frustrating. I don't 799 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: think we ever got Anthony Davis this year either. Maybe 800 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: that's just a tax that was a championship tax that 801 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: this season kind of went so, so you know what 802 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: we'll see next year. But yeah, I feel like that 803 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: that kind of puts a lid lid on the lid 804 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: on the Lakers here. Yeah, so rosen are going to 805 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: continue to do plenty of Lakers stuff throughout the off season. Um, 806 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: but obviously we're basketball fans, so we're going to continue 807 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: to do um as much of this kind of stuff 808 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: as we can throughout the playoff run. I wanted to 809 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: start with this, uh the Nets series, UM with with Milwaukee, 810 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: and you know, before we even get into the nuts 811 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and bolts of the series, I wanted to pay a 812 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: compliment to Kevin Durant because I don't think people really 813 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: lies just how big of a deal that performance was, 814 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: above and beyond the obvious, you know numbers. You know, 815 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: we've we've all heard the numbers. He had thirty one 816 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: in the second half. He assisted another eighteen, so he 817 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: scored or assisted on forty nine in the second half. UM. 818 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was awesome defensively, which is something that 819 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: I've been critical of him a lot, you know, compared 820 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: to his peers. I just never thought he cared as 821 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: much as his peers at the position. And and but 822 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: he showed in that game that he's will he's actually 823 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: actually capable of anchoring at the defense. I wish we 824 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: already knew, but he showed it again. And then you know, 825 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is like, like you know, there's a 826 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: chance that Harden gets healthy and there's a chance that 827 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: maybe Kyrie comes back in the finals and it's gonna 828 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: it might look easy, they might win easily. And I 829 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: think people are going to forget this game because this 830 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: is it kind of reminded me of Game six for 831 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Lebron in Boston in the sense that you know, they 832 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: kind of us through the thunder, kind of handled him, 833 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: not not not souper. It wasn't a blowout or anything, 834 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: but they kind of one relatively comfortably in the finals, 835 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: and people forget that, like it was that close to 836 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: falling off the rails in that Boston series, also because 837 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: of injuries, because that series was the series that Bosch 838 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: missed the beginning with an abdominal strain, and even in 839 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: that Game six he came off the bench. And you 840 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: can't put it anymore playing than this. If Kevin Durant 841 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: has forty instead of the nets probably a ninety are 842 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: like nine not just lose the game, they lose the series. 843 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: They lose they lose the series if he doesn't do that, 844 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: meaning they there are chances in you know, in this 845 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: series is still very much not over. There still is 846 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: a talent chasm here, and and we're going to talk 847 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about you know, some of the coaching 848 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: malpractice from from Mike Buddenholzer, But like, I just want 849 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: to take a minute to compliment Kevin Durant on what 850 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: was an absolute master piece, one of the best basketball 851 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: games I've ever seen any player ever play. And and 852 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: just remember that, like and it's you know, one more 853 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: thing that Darius Oriano actually from Blaker Phil Room said 854 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: this on a pod yesterday. He goes he goes the 855 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: path that Kevin Durant shows kind of concealed how great 856 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: he was over the last few years. And and it 857 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: just strictly because he never had to dig that deep. 858 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: And and what was so cool about that last night 859 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: it was it was the first time since two thousand 860 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: sixteen where he was in because like, you know, I 861 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it about those shots in Cleveland, 862 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, they were great shots. Yeah, he played amazing, 863 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: but like he could have he could have won out 864 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: there and had twelve points on four of seventeen shooting 865 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: their winning the series. Like they might not have won 866 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: that game, but they're winning the series. There was no 867 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: real pressure to those moments. And what he did in 868 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: that game was, you know, dig deep and do something 869 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: he absolute we had to do in order to to 870 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: keep his team alive. And I think I just think 871 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: that's really cool because that's the best part about the 872 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: NBA super the superstar experiences. The NBA Superstars are so 873 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: good and so much better than everybody else on the 874 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: floor that when they do dig deep like that, like 875 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: crazy magical stuff like that happens, And as a basketball fan, 876 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: I just thought it was so cool. And I think 877 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: that's what most like, like saying those Warriors titles don't 878 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: count is dumb, right, those those narratives that have been 879 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: talked about on all these UM Sports shows and first 880 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: taken all that where they talk about the Durant's titles. 881 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: But I think that's the main thing that most people 882 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: are kind of annoyed about that is like it felt 883 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: like when Katie would drop forty on those, like, you know, 884 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: those Super Warriors teams, it felt more like an overload 885 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: instead of like him having to do it right. And 886 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: he totally can. He could totally carry a team like 887 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: this um for a whole year, like he just he 888 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: has that kind of talent. I feel like that's the 889 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: stuff that we kind of missed out on being on 890 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: this team. And I thought with him and Kyrie, I 891 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: thought it was awesome that he got another kind of 892 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: shot to do that, to kind of be the main 893 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: kind of score where if he doesn't score thirty five, 894 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: they lose, you know, that kind of not pressure, but 895 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: that kind of like where they rely on his scoring. 896 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: It felt like, you know, obviously he was the Finals 897 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: MVP twice. You can't take that away from him. It 898 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: just it just didn't feel the same, didn't have the 899 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: same kind of those points, didn't feel the same, I guess, 900 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: as they do in these games. And I thought kind 901 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: of the hard and trade kind of UM mass that 902 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: as well this season. But obviously with those two, with 903 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: Kyrie and Harden out, you're kind of seeing what he 904 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: can do. And to me, he's the greatest scorer I've 905 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: ever seen, like just personally, like his ability to come 906 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: off a screen and just shoot UM and no one 907 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: can really bother it. And I actually said, we'll talk 908 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: about with the coaching staff the opposite coady staff did 909 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: with him UM, which I thought was not practice as well, 910 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: but you know, him being able to just come off 911 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: down screens like I just never seen a guy at 912 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: that size like I think he's listed at like six 913 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: tent but like, I feel like he's a legit seven 914 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: foot of being able to come off screen, shoot handle, 915 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: you know, left to right, crossover, pull up, Like there's 916 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: just unguardable stuff, stuff that you just don't see from 917 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: guys that side. So to me, he's like the best 918 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: score I've ever seen, and it's cool to see him 919 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of get his flowers on this team. And he 920 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: really outplayed kind of honest as well, and you kind 921 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: of saw the difference in what kind of matters in 922 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Like we see what matters in the regular season, 923 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 1: and then once you get to the playoffs, like shot 924 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 1: making is the king. Like a guy who can create 925 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: his own shot is everything. And we can bring it 926 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: back to Lakers later, but like it's just you see 927 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 1: guys that's able to come off and pull up, which 928 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: I think is the most important thing in the playoffs. 929 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: You need a guy who can when everything is taken away, 930 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 1: when teams are locked in, um, you don't get open looks. 931 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: You need a guy that you can just give the 932 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: ball to and be like, hey, we need a shot here. 933 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: And Kevin Durant is one of the best ever at 934 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: that being just come off a screen and pull up 935 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: or you know, you know, isolation and just just rise 936 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: above anybody. And it was it was awesome to be 937 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: able to watch that and and see him just tear 938 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: a team's heart out. They had like a twenty point 939 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: lead and once they saw Durant kind of hit those 940 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: first shots, like that's really demoralizing. It's like, what do 941 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: we do? You know, you play up on him and 942 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: he drives by you. You hear in some weak drop 943 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: coverage and it's a layoup. That midirate and shot is 944 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: a lay up for him. Um, you kind of playoff 945 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: or you know, you drop back, you try to cheat 946 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: under the screen and hits at three. It's just just stuff. 947 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: That's three level scoring. That's just you know, the best 948 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: ever to kind of do that at that level. Yeah, 949 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: there was like a little jab step jumper on the 950 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: left elbow that he made in the fourth quarter that 951 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: was like he need to look easy. And I remember 952 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: sitting there thinking like this is one of the huge 953 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: advantages of three level scoring is that ability to um, 954 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, hit a stand still shot like that out 955 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: of a out of a face up that allows you 956 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: to get save your save your legs a little bit, 957 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: he got to the foul and a couple of times 958 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: driving along the right side, you know that there was 959 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: it just was. The variety is. Variety is what allows 960 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: you to to adjust and and have the ability to 961 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of be one step ahead of a 962 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: defense as elite as that as that Milwaukee Bucks defenses. 963 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: And you know, the last thing I'll say about KT 964 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: before we move on. You know, I think that if 965 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: you're putting you know, superstars in the NBA A on 966 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: tears and you know, I know a lot of people 967 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: think that this stuff is silly, but I think it's fun. 968 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: I think it's fun to rank players. You know, if 969 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: you're you're not into that sort of thing, I'm sure 970 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: you can find some other podcast out there. But like, 971 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: I I think that, uh, you know, Kauai, Steph Lebron 972 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: and and k D are all kind of on the 973 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: same tier as in, like the only four guys that 974 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: we are certain can be the best player on a 975 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: championship team. That said, like, I feel like there's an 976 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: obvious and discernible gap between k D and Kauai um 977 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: in the sense that, like, even when when KAD does 978 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: engage himself defensively, he's not as good on the ball, 979 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: but he's like a much better in help side. And 980 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 1: then that that level of shot making that he has 981 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: is even a clear level above what Kauai does. And 982 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: and what was crazy is I was I had been 983 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: thinking that before that game, and then you watched the 984 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: visible chasm that exists between him and Janice just like 985 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: a absolute like like it's jarring when you're watching the 986 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: game to see the difference between the two of them, 987 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: and you know, someone the thing that was making the 988 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: rounds yesterday was the last couple of days, was the 989 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: A D and Janice stuff again. And I think that 990 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: the A D. Janice stuff is the perfect example of 991 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: the difference between a floor razor and a ceiling razor, 992 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: because I don't think a D can hold a candle 993 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: to Joannice as a baseline superstar to build a team 994 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: around for an a two game regular season, as a 995 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 1: guy that can run a rudimentary regular season NBA offense 996 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: and score and create enough offense to to have a 997 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, fifty plus win season and at least get 998 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: you to the playoffs, I think he's just flat out 999 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: considerably better than a D at that but when things 1000 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: really grind down and scheming plays a role and the 1001 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: game gets into the half court and teams are are 1002 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: really cutting off everything that's easy in a way that 1003 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: they don't in the regular season, I think a d 1004 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: is considerably better. Like I think there's a chasm in 1005 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: the other direction. And so it's as simple as like, 1006 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: would you rather have him as a number one or 1007 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: a number two? And if I already have a Lebron 1008 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: or a James Harden, I'm picking Anthony Davis over Janice. 1009 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: But if I don't have that player yet, I'd rather 1010 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: have a nice and go after an elite high and playmaker, 1011 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: which is why it was such a huge mistake for 1012 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: them not to go after Chris Paul. Yeah. Absolutely, And 1013 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: like looking at you, honest, like he's like the like 1014 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: he gets blamed a lot for what the Bucks do 1015 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny look at his line after 1016 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: it's like thirty five, twelve and and like five. But 1017 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: it's like a difference in regular season and playoffs. And 1018 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it's really tough when your main creator can't shoot, 1019 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, like that's just a fundamental flaw like in 1020 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: your kind of team building. So it's tough when their 1021 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: perimeter main perimeter shot creators are like Drew Holiday and 1022 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 1: Chris Milton, and those are two guys like the Brooklyn 1023 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: that's just aren't worried about kind of beating them. And 1024 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: comparing a D and your honest, like it's tough. I 1025 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: think you honest has a much better motor in the 1026 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: regular season, Like he's a guy that plays, you know, plays, 1027 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: uh knows to the wall every single game, and a 1028 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: D just doesn't approach the regular season like that, at 1029 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: least he hasn't. Um Last year was a little bit better, 1030 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: but especially this year, like he's just not going for 1031 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: regular season kind of points awards and things like that, 1032 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: and that's where you honest really excelled. And when you 1033 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, everyone's kind of playing hard, and again, 1034 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: when you can't shoot, it's just really tough. We saw 1035 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: it last year. A d shot making was a huge 1036 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: part of the Lakers winning a title, Like it's we 1037 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: kind of forget, we forget after a game two, we 1038 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: were wondering if he was the Finals MVP. Like his 1039 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: his shooting, his ability to hit that midrange kind of 1040 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: jab step pull up, it's kind of what won them 1041 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,959 Speaker 1: a lot of the series against Houston. That's what changed 1042 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: the game. Houston went all and you obsolutely punish their switches, 1043 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: and you see Joannice Brooklyn goes small and Jannest just 1044 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: can't punish them at all either. Right, they are able 1045 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: to switch Bruce Bown on him, switch all these guys, 1046 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: Blake Griffin on him, like an older Blake Griffin, and 1047 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: he just can't do anything because like if he doesn't 1048 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: have any touch on a jump hook, and it's just 1049 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: just so funny, Like I was watching the Nets Bucks game, 1050 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,959 Speaker 1: just funny to watch John is like have zero touch 1051 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: on like a hook shot, right, like a plane hook 1052 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: shot from like two ft and you watch Katie get 1053 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 1: the rebound, dribble up and shoot a thirty five ft 1054 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: or that just switches in. It's just a funny, like 1055 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: just the contrast of like kind of skill level there 1056 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: that that's just a difference when you're shot creators. I 1057 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: think Billy has every bone head center in NBA history 1058 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,439 Speaker 1: has been able to make a two ft hook shot. 1059 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: And because they practice that, you could tell that the 1060 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: coaching staff isn't having him work on that enough. Right now, 1061 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: should get he's bullying down and he's getting within five 1062 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: ft of the basket and that's the shot they're getting in. Yeah, 1063 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: and there's no touch on it. No, And he also 1064 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: settles for these fade away jumpers. You know that Brooklyn 1065 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: absolutely throws a priddy any paray at anytime he takes 1066 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: and these like dribble up three is like, I think 1067 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: the dribble up threes are like kind of okay if 1068 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: you're up like fifteen, you know, like it's just like 1069 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: a like a like closed the door type of shot, right. 1070 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't like those when you're down or 1071 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: when the game is close. Like he's just too Brooklyn 1072 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: has zero into kind of defense to really stop them. 1073 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: And I like I was going with, like I think 1074 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: Philly has this issue too, where their main kind of 1075 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: perimeter shot creator, because I think that's really important in 1076 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like I think their main perimeter shock creators 1077 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: like Tobias Harris, right, and uh yeah, like Tobias because 1078 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons just stayed in the ducker's part and it's 1079 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: really tough just to give you give the ball to 1080 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: Jewel and beat every time who's a really good jump shooter. 1081 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: It's just I think when he takes those mid range 1082 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: fade away jumpers. I think, you know, Atlanta is fine 1083 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: with that. So it's just like that's a tough part 1084 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: when you don't have star levels shot creation. Um, I 1085 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: think in the playoffs really tough when we're seeing that 1086 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: with Milwaukee as well. Um, when with the honest trying 1087 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: to just give him the ball and he's just running 1088 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: his head into a brick wall every time, and sometimes 1089 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: he breaks through the wall like sometimes he does. You 1090 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: can see it's taxing. It's tiring to just run in 1091 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: the paint against three dudes every time and trying to score. 1092 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: Like he gets worn down at the end of these games. 1093 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: You see him stop attacking that way. He doesn't want 1094 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: to get to the line. To me, the free throws 1095 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: is the bigger issue here. I don't know if you 1096 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: agree with that, but the free throws to me is 1097 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: the biggest issue for him over the jump shot, over 1098 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: the post game, Like his aggression level drops because he 1099 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get to the line that you know, 1100 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: that allows Brooklyn to get even more into the pain. 1101 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: Like it's just a domino effect for me for him. 1102 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: So that's where I kind of see these Bucks net 1103 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: series um going here, Yeah, well and allowing your player 1104 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: to sit there and think about the free throw that 1105 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: he's not good at shooting for ten seconds before he 1106 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: shoots is just like, whoever, yeah, whoever approved that in 1107 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: that organization? That needs to get fired. But you know, 1108 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: the thing is, and this is why the series is 1109 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: not over. The You know if Lebron, if Lebron was 1110 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: on the Bucks even at age thirty nine, what he's 1111 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: doing in the game is he slowly bringing the ball 1112 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: up the floor every possession he's finding James Harden and 1113 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 1: he's either getting Chris Middleton on him, or he's getting 1114 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday on him, or he's doing something along those lines. 1115 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: And he is slowly trying to suck the life out 1116 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: of you for playing a lineup that he knows can't 1117 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: beat him. And what was so missing from the Bucks 1118 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: in that game is that calming, steady presence that can 1119 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: make those decisions. Because even Drew Holiday, who's the point 1120 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: guard of that team, like in the fourth quarter, was 1121 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: breaking off and isolating against Kevin Durant, and you're like, 1122 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Man? You know Chris Middleton doing 1123 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm like, this is the only guy 1124 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: on the floor you shouldn't be going at and like 1125 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: and just in general, there are some obvious you know 1126 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: that you know, I have a buddy who plays on 1127 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: my little men's league team that I play with on Sundays, 1128 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: and he played basketball Wisconsin back in the day, and uh, 1129 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: and so he's a big Bucks fan and I was 1130 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: talking to him about this at length, and he's and 1131 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: it's all the same stuff that you've heard. It's it's 1132 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: the for some reason, Harden and Katie are playing more 1133 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 1: minutes than than any other book stars. The Bucks are 1134 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: making absolutely no attempt to make hardened garden space that 1135 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to post up Harden. You want to 1136 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: make him Guarden space because that's where his hamstring is 1137 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: going to be useless. And you could tell when you 1138 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: watch him play, he's basically a decoy out there. He's 1139 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: playing the Jason Kidd role. You know, I'm gonna knock 1140 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: down spot of threes and make basic basketball decisions. Then 1141 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: you have the fact that they continue to play Brooke 1142 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: Lopez Um, but in the same exact issue that we're 1143 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: seeing in this Clippers series with Um, with Rudy Gobert, 1144 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: you're using a rim protector against a five out lineup 1145 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: with shooting, and so for for Gobert, he what he 1146 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: kept doing is he kept getting sucked in on a 1147 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 1: drive and then his wide open three point shooter causes 1148 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 1: the team to rotate, and then he stays in the 1149 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: paint and doesn't get back out to the three point line. 1150 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: The same thing is happening with brook Lopez. He's on 1151 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Green, he's helping on a drive. He's shutting off 1152 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: the paint. That's great. The Nets aren't trying to score 1153 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: at the paint. They're kicking it out to Jeff Green. 1154 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: If he's open, he's making seven out of eight, and 1155 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: if he's not, he's moving it around to the next piece. 1156 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: And guess what, brook Lopez is still in the paint, 1157 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: and it's like at a certain point and he and 1158 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: brook Lopez isn't even even in the same you know, 1159 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: stratosphere is Rudy Gobert. So I just don't understand the 1160 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 1: trade off there. But there's just some basic strategy stuff 1161 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 1: here that the Bucks can kind of just kind of 1162 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: calm down and understand they have a talent advantage and 1163 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: attack them properly. They should win Game six and they 1164 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: should be favored going into Game seven. They just have 1165 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: to pull their head out of their ask. For lack 1166 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: of a better expression, I'm glad you brought up the 1167 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: Rudy gobert Um kind of brook Lopez, because I just 1168 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: didn't understand playing brook Lopez. It just felt like once 1169 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,919 Speaker 1: he once he came in, like Hatie just soft food, 1170 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: and Katie was in full inferno at this point when 1171 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: the quarter started, and then yet brook Lopez in and 1172 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: this like like it's okay if you want to play 1173 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: a job kind of coverage, but I feel like it 1174 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: has to be a little bit more aggressive. Like brook 1175 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: Clubs was already in the paint while Katie is behind 1176 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: three point line, and now Katie's just walking in and 1177 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: I saw someone tweet at me, well, that's a contested jumper. No, 1178 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: it's not like brook Lope his hand comes up like 1179 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 1: five seconds late. Um, that is not a contested shop 1180 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 1: for Katie. So those kind of things just confused me. 1181 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: I feel like you have to trap him, you have 1182 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: to get the ball, has to get to Bruce Brown. 1183 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: Like brook Lopez, I see him worried about the cut 1184 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: from Bruce Brown, Like, now you've got to get the 1185 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: ball out of Kim Durant's hands. And then with Rudy 1186 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: Gobert as well, Um they're trying to hide him right 1187 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: like to me, like, if you can't punish the Clippers 1188 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: inside for playing small, like I feel like you're going 1189 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: to lose even without Kawhi Leonard because they're shooting is 1190 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 1: just too good. You have to make them play Zoobach 1191 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: and the Jazz just don't because Rudy Gobert takes three 1192 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 1: seconds when he catches the ball to you know, gather himself, 1193 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: dribble and then try to shoot. And by that time 1194 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: he's either stripped, he's either fouled. Like they need to 1195 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: be able to punish him. They have Nick but Tom 1196 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of switching on him and they don't care at all. 1197 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: And if you can't punish them going small, same with Brooklyn, 1198 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: if you can't punish them from going small, I feel 1199 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: like you're going to lose. It's just it's just too tough. 1200 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: You have to kind of make them go big with you, 1201 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: and the JAD just can't do that, and neither can 1202 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks. Round Brook Lopez catches in the posts, they're 1203 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: not scared of him shooting a jump. Brook Lopez is 1204 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: spacing like they're using him as a spacer. He's out 1205 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 1: like thirty five forty feet while Janice tries to barrel 1206 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: himself to the rim, and they're just not worried about that. 1207 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: Same with Utah. To me, it's like they doesn't care exactly. 1208 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: And also like Gobert needs to be a force inside. 1209 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: He got some offensive rebounds last night, but I thought 1210 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: it was a little a little too late to me. 1211 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: And those offensive rebounds just don't aren't going to force 1212 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 1: the Clippers to go big either. They're trying to hide 1213 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: him on Terrence Man, hide him on Nick Patum, and 1214 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: we saw Terrence Man kind of dunk on him yesterday. 1215 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: We saw Reggie Jackson like hunt him out, which I 1216 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: thought was kind of crazy to see Reggie Jackson look 1217 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: for the Gobert switch, which I thought was just a real, 1218 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: real funny thing to watch. But yeah, those two teams 1219 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 1: have some issues there. They need to be able to 1220 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: punish inside. If not, I feel like the shooters for 1221 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: both they're just are just too tough to kind of 1222 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: kind of stop well. And and that's the thing, like 1223 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 1: you want to set yourself up with those rotations to 1224 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: to kind of have the math work out right, So 1225 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: like if like the way the Clippers are guarding the Jazz, 1226 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: the way the Nets are guarding the Bucks, it's a 1227 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a really simple concept, you know, Like particularly with 1228 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: the Clippers, you know, we have these five mobile perimeter players, 1229 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: and if at any point someone has to help the 1230 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: whole team two ships and whoever was guarding the ball 1231 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: handler that got burnt, he kind of gets into that 1232 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: shift and and and finds the next available guy. And 1233 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: because everyone's mobile, there just tends to not be anything open. 1234 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way that their their defense works. Well, 1235 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, are of one of the guys 1236 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: that I follow is uh he runs Jazz film room. 1237 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: Ben daw said he did a bunch of film analysis 1238 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: last night. He's he keeps pointing to these road attians 1239 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: where you know, Clarkson's getting lost and and things along 1240 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: those lines, and and and one of the things that 1241 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,439 Speaker 1: I think is getting glossed over there is the math 1242 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: is off because Gobert is in the paint. So now 1243 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, instead of it being five guys 1244 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: rotating to five guys, it's four guys rotating to five guys. 1245 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: Because Gobert is now in the paint because he helped 1246 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: on the drive and the driver has already run back 1247 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: out to the three point line, but Gobert has stayed 1248 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: in the paint. And and now you're kind of running 1249 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: like almost like a four out one end zone. And 1250 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: but if there's five shooters, and if they if they 1251 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: rotate the ball well enough, they're still getting open shots. 1252 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: And and and that to me is like, you know, 1253 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: I think, I think this is something that I did, 1254 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: something I tweeted last night. It's something I believe. You know, 1255 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: the Rockets got kind of roasted for their switching defense 1256 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen for it being for being kind 1257 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: of gimmicky, um and something that was uh, you know, 1258 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: not just Anibal and and and it and it wasn't 1259 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: because you know, the the greatest offensive team ever picked 1260 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: them apart at the end of the day. But I 1261 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: do think like switching is the future right now as 1262 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: of right now, that there's always gonna be there. There 1263 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: will be another shift where the we're switching will get 1264 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: attacked too well by NBA offenses. But NBA offenses haven't 1265 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: quite figured out how to properly attack a switching defense 1266 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: yet other than isolation. And so because of that, like 1267 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: I think, I think, like, look at how well the 1268 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: Nets and the Clippers are playing, and there you're too 1269 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: heavily switching teams right now. It is it's very obvious 1270 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: that that works right now in the league. And so 1271 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: I would actually, you know, just temporarily bring this back 1272 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: to the Lakers. I'd like to see them do that 1273 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And it's something that they can 1274 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: only do in a d S at the five unfortunately. 1275 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: But there's something to be said about switching in the 1276 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: way that it stagnates another team causes guys like Drew Holiday, 1277 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, you know, Donovan Mitchell to lose their minds 1278 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: a little bit and not know what to do and 1279 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: resort to just throwing up bad shots. Like I can't 1280 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: tell you how many times in the fourth quarter of 1281 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: both those games, either Mitchell or Drew Holiday or Chris 1282 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: Middleton threw up a bad shot, sometimes even early in 1283 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: the shot clock. And it's because like all of their 1284 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: offensive you know, motion attack is based on you know, 1285 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: teams playing a traditional defense and they get up the 1286 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: floor and they run that first action and it's a 1287 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: switch and They're like, what do I do now? Well, like, 1288 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: I think I can. He's kind of giving me a 1289 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: little bit of space, like maybe I can just elevate 1290 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: over the top, you know, or shoot a step back 1291 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: or something. And and so I do think I think 1292 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: that this this playoff run has been kind of a 1293 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: case study in the fact that going a bit smaller 1294 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: in favoring switching defenses, favoring shooting, doing traditional drive and kick, 1295 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily driving to get all the way to the rim, 1296 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: but driving to get that first defender so that you 1297 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: can get out to an open shooter. That stuff works 1298 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: really well even in a playoff setting. And I think 1299 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: that I think that that's been something that I just 1300 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to abandon your identity if you're the Lakers. 1301 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: But I'd like to see them add that as like 1302 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: a VERSTI like a like an audible that they could 1303 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: go to if that makes sense. No, for sure. And 1304 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I like that you brought out Houston because's kind of funny. 1305 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Last year, like we forget like Houston was really successful 1306 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: with their switching defense, right they they won Game one 1307 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: I think by like twenty points or something like that. Um, 1308 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 1: And how did the Lakers beat that they had Anthony 1309 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Davis right, they were switching these small guards and I 1310 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: think that's the only like bad thing about switching is 1311 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: that the other team can kind of hunt who they want, right, 1312 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: So we saw Lebron as well hunt Brussell Westbrook every 1313 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: single time because like Houston, Robby switch everything, so Lebron 1314 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: can kind of get the magic he wants, or Anthony 1315 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Davis kind of can get the magic he wants. That's 1316 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the only thing was switching. And I feel like for Utah, 1317 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: like you talked about it, like you have to be 1318 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: able to punish when they switch, and I think that's 1319 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 1: where Mike Conley has really missed for them. Like Mike 1320 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Conley is a big part of them being able to 1321 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: attack because obviously Utah, like with all their shooting, the 1322 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: main like the easy kind of defensive scheme is to 1323 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: switch everything. Right, they want to shoot three, so just 1324 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: switch everything. And that's where I think you need another guy. 1325 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, you know, did a great job. I thought 1326 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: this series really keeping them keeping their head above water. 1327 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Um scoring forty points thirty five points on pretty good 1328 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: efficiency other than last night. But um, that's where Mike 1329 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Conley is really missing on the guy who can not 1330 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: only attack swhich is but really can find Gobert down 1331 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: low and really feed him. Loves Donovan Mitchell is a 1332 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: is a good pastor. He's not. Mike Conley is the 1333 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: guy who's actually looking to get others involved, which I 1334 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: think is a difference there. And he's a guy that 1335 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: can really beat you with speed, get to the rim, 1336 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: hit threes, and I think they really missed that against 1337 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: this Clippers team. Like you, I feel like it'd be 1338 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: tougher to switch if we have two guys that can 1339 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: really punish you the Clippers. The only guy that're worried 1340 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: about Donovan Mitchell. I don't worried about Bogdanovitch beating them 1341 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 1: and switches or you know Royce O'Neil getting to the 1342 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: basket a few times. Like it's really Donovan mitchell um 1343 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: doing that. And Drew Holiday as well, you brought him up. 1344 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 1: He's another guy that he's a good score, but he's 1345 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: not like his skill isn't to shoot off the dribble, right. 1346 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: And that's where Brooklyn like switching really baits you into 1347 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,439 Speaker 1: that based players into trying to match up um Matt 1348 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: trying to go in isolation when they maybe that's not 1349 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: their skill set, so that that's where switching kind of 1350 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: hurts them. And I think these two series kind of 1351 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: have played that out. Unique guys who can punish you, 1352 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: especially when you're a big man, can't be honest and 1353 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,479 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert not to compare them, but those two really 1354 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: aren't punishing the other team inside, and so the teams 1355 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: can continue switching, continue staying small, skill ball small ball, 1356 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: still be able to stay small and space out five out, 1357 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: and it's just that's really tough. You lose the math 1358 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: game there, m M. Yeah. And you know what's what's 1359 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: exciting about potentially playing a little bit more of that 1360 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: style with the Lakers is they can attack switching defense. 1361 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Is they have the skill set in their roster to 1362 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: do that. Um, you know. And one of the reasons 1363 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: why it's kind of in the same way that that 1364 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant does. The the ability to put your back 1365 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: to the basket or attack and face up, or attack 1366 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: and pick and roll or attacking like the ability to 1367 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: go to a bunch of different styles of of isolation 1368 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: offense with Lebron and a D gives you the ability 1369 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: to attack both ways. But you know, I know, we 1370 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: gotta get you out of here, UM because of work. 1371 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we, UM, you know, 1372 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 1: stay consistent with this stuff. Maybe either uh, you know, 1373 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: after tomorrow night's games or sometimes sometime this weekend, we'll 1374 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: do another one of these spaces after the game. UM. 1375 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: But I wanted to get back and and kind of 1376 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: do like a little recap of the Lakers season. Everyone 1377 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 1: who hopped in. I have this recorded, so I will 1378 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: post it on our podcast feed if you missed any 1379 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: of it, and you can check it out in its 1380 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: entirety here, probably within the next twenty minutes or so. 1381 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: But Roger, I appreciate you taking some time before work 1382 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: today to hang out. I'm glad to be back. I 1383 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: look forward to doing this for a long time with you, 1384 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for this offseason and and hopefully another 1385 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: UM running a championship at some point in the future. Yeah. Man, 1386 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: it feels good to be back to like a week 1387 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: to pe a list off. So it's nice to be 1388 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: back in the fold again and talking basketball. Even if 1389 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: it's not the Lakers, we can really get into these 1390 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: teams as well, so it's a lot of times to 1391 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: be back. It's cool to be back, all right, everybody, 1392 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed the rest of your Thursday, and stay tuned on 1393 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the podcast feed and and Roger and I'll see you 1394 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: at some point before the end of the week. Appreciate everyone. 1395 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: Thank you.