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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. We have got a bevy

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Speaker 2: of stories to track with you. Drama in the House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives as the speakership of Kevin McCarthy is potentially

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Speaker 2: in danger. We will continue to update you throughout the

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Speaker 2: course of the program as that plays itself out. But

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of different stories to discuss. But

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Speaker 2: crime is right now on the top of many people's minds,

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Speaker 2: particularly crime in Washington, d C. And other cities where

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Speaker 2: crime has continued to skyrocket. Buck, I'm reading from Lucas

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Speaker 2: Tomlinson's report that he put out earlier this morning. Lucas

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Speaker 2: Tomlinson is a Fox News correspondent. He said, in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 2: the average murder suspect has eleven prior arrests.

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Speaker 1: That is, according to police.

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Speaker 2: Violent crime is up thirty eight percent this year over

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Speaker 2: last year in DC. By the way, Buck and I

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Speaker 2: will be in DC in two weeks for multiple days

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Speaker 2: as a part of our new affiliate I believe is

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Speaker 2: it one oh four point seven that you can listen

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Speaker 2: to us, and many of you are listening right now

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Speaker 2: all over the Washington, DC area.

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Speaker 3: As hopefully I'll be a personal security detail in the

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Speaker 3: word hopefully, hopefully we will be safe. I went to

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Speaker 3: college there. Buck has lived in d C. Thirty eight

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Speaker 3: percent increase in crime and a lot of attention. As

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Speaker 3: Muriel Bowser, who is DC's mayor, says, DC, how much

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Speaker 3: short do you think they are of how many cops Buck,

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Speaker 3: they need to be able to run effectively the police

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Speaker 3: presence in Washington.

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Speaker 4: D C.

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Speaker 3: I'm am sure they are short, hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred, she says. Remember DC was one of the

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Speaker 2: capitals of the defund the police movement. Well, now they're saying, look,

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Speaker 2: we got a lot of policies. It turns out that

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Speaker 2: makes it hard to hire police officers. You've got a

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Speaker 2: Democrat congressman who was carjacked and outside of an apartment

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Speaker 2: building that is very popular with congress people to be

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Speaker 2: staying there when they're traveling for work. But listen to

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Speaker 2: DC Mayor Muriel Bowser say, yeah, we're four hundred cops short,

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Speaker 2: and we're having difficulty recruiting them because the policies we

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Speaker 4: We need more officers, we don't have the officers that

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Speaker 4: we need and Sadly, we've lost three to four hundred

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Speaker 4: in our schools, and we have policies that make it

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Speaker 4: difficult to create recruit new officers.

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Speaker 2: How predictable is this buck that the defund the police movement,

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Speaker 2: which I think is the single dumbest political argument of

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Speaker 2: the twenty first century, has led to skyrocketing crime rates.

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Speaker 2: And now people in many of these cities with skyrocketing

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Speaker 2: crime rates want more police, but they have put in

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Speaker 2: place policies where police say.

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Speaker 1: Why in the world would we ever work there.

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Speaker 3: This is the cascading effect that you see from these

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Speaker 3: bad decisions. What happens when, in order to play Kate,

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Speaker 3: for example, a anti police mob and any jurisdiction in

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Speaker 3: injustice or society's ills or whatever. All the other cops

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Speaker 3: get into a force en force situation. Heather MacDonald, who

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Speaker 3: we've had on the show many times, term this the

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Speaker 3: Ferguson effect, where police do less because they know they

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Speaker 3: Tie goes to the criminal in essence, if you will,

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Speaker 3: You also add to that then the early retirements and

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Speaker 3: cutting things down at both ends. You're cutting the tree

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Speaker 3: And that's not even a criminal matter. That's something that

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Speaker 3: can happen because of departmental discipline. And you might have

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Speaker 3: because of a video that someone takes. If you wrestling

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Speaker 2: They're going to edit, by the way back to the

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Speaker 2: twenty seconds that make the police officer look the worst. Right,

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Speaker 2: You're not even going to see the full fruition of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you also are seeing Look, I always I

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Speaker 3: had nothing to do with anything. That was an inhumane

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Speaker 3: and idiotic position that they were taking. But it is

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Speaker 3: it is noted by many people that You've seen a

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Speaker 3: CBS News in New York there was this long time

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week in New York, city.

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Speaker 3: And he was with his girlfriend. Some guy came up

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Speaker 3: stabbed them to death.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just the.

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Speaker 3: Worst kind of you know, heinous, out of nowhere crime.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is an individual who, first of all,

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Speaker 3: you know, the whole thing is horrible, but was part

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Speaker 3: of the system with community organizing and the left wing

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Speaker 1: On the streets.

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Speaker 3: So now people are looking at this and they're saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean Nancy Pelosi another example of this

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Speaker 3: We haven't even mentioned yet. Clay Congressman Quaar Yep. Congressman

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Speaker 3: Quay Are, a mile from the Capitol building, was just

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Speaker 3: you know, and now I'm not even sure what his

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Speaker 1: But that's irrelevant to members of Congress.

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Speaker 3: We're getting carjacked in a nation's capital.

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Speaker 1: Here we have him talking about it. I think buck

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Speaker 1: cut two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just coming into my place. Three guys came

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Speaker 5: out of nowhere, and they pointed guns at me. I

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Speaker 5: do have a black belt, but I recognized when you

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Speaker 5: got three guns. I looked at one with a gun,

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Speaker 5: So they said they wanted my car, and say sure,

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Speaker 5: you got to keep common to those situations, and then

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Speaker 5: they took off.

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Speaker 1: They recovered the car play.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I mean a black belt. One guy

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Speaker 3: has a gun, one guy has a knife. You know

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Speaker 3: you're black belt. You're got John.

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Speaker 2: Wick here, right, You're not au Reeves and the matrix,

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Speaker 2: the idea of fighting off three people with guns is

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Speaker 2: a Hollywood fan of And he said he was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have zero, You have zero chance effectively, And

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Speaker 3: I'm glad. Look he did the right thing, which is

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Speaker 3: just to concede and give them, give them the vehicle.

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Speaker 3: You know, most important thing is to get off the

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Speaker 3: you and your loved ones safe. But you have a

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Speaker 3: member of Congress's carjack a mile from the capital, not

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Speaker 1: I think for people.

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Speaker 3: The these things don't have to be happening. And that's

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Speaker 3: why when you started with the number of times that

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Speaker 3: these individuals who are arrested for homicides have been arrested previously,

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Speaker 3: I will say there were Republicans who went along with this,

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Speaker 3: that our criminal justice system had just become a mass

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was.

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Speaker 3: Far too harsh on first time, low level, nonviolent offenders.

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Speaker 3: And somehow that in just the span of a few

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Clay, how.

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Speaker 3: Much more clear could the failure be And you know,

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Speaker 3: He knows. I think he kind of knew what was coming.

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Speaker 3: That's why he didn't get on the defund police train

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Speaker 3: like some others did. But for the Democrats, especially in

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Speaker 3: maybe the consequences are just the continued flight of people

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Speaker 2: And I also wanted to mention, so DC is getting

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Speaker 2: I just I mean, it is absolutely disgraceful. A thirty

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Speaker 2: a lot of time in Chattanooga in my life. Not

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight year old father of three.

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Speaker 1: Was in town for his high school.

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Speaker 2: Reunion, got shot and killed by a man in downtown Chattanooga.

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Speaker 1: He had done nothing.

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Speaker 2: The guy had been arrested sixty six prior times.

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute.

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Speaker 2: How is it remotely possible that you could be arrested

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Speaker 2: sixty six times, including for violent felonies firing guns that

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Speaker 2: Christopher Wright, just had he had an eight week old child,

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Speaker 2: three young kids, twentieth anniversary of his high school, Baylor

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Speaker 2: High School. And this guy's a career criminal. Sixty six

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Speaker 2: arrests buck and he just shot him right in the

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Speaker 1: Where are the marches?

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Speaker 3: Where is the organization that we saw? You know, George

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Speaker 2: From the front lines of truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 3: This is just back in March of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Play it.

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Speaker 3: I know this belies to common belief and when it

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Speaker 3: There actually is, so we all understand. The numbers speak

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Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking about the fact that Chattanooga arrested

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Speaker 2: what happened to the three strikes in your outlaw that

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton got put into law. You can do something

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Speaker 3: when your dad is president, you're facing federal charges. The

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Speaker 3: risks are just not very very high. There's just not

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Speaker 3: very high.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually on the gun charge. Fine, you know, bring it.

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Speaker 2: The real criminal danger to Hunter Biden, from my analysis, is,

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Speaker 2: as we talked about yesterday, the fact that he didn't

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Speaker 2: file tax returns in fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen. I

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Speaker 2: think all those years he'd either didn't file or he

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Speaker 2: didn't pay us full taxes. And I just submit to

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Speaker 2: everybody out there listening, how many of you would not

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Speaker 2: have been charged with a crime if you had failed

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Speaker 2: to pay millions of dollars that we know of in

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Speaker 2: federal income tax, and you would set up a variety

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Speaker 2: of shell companies and to receive payments from foreign entities.

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Speaker 2: To me, he should also be charged with FARA for

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Speaker 2: failing to register, like we have seen applied against Trump.

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Speaker 2: Are related in individuals, but every single one of us,

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Speaker 2: if we owed millions of dollars, the IRS would have

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Speaker 2: charged us with a crime.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I was a you know you and

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Speaker 3: I are both nineties because of our ages, which are

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Speaker 3: actually quite close. To spite all the jokes I make,

462
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Speaker 3: we're both nineties movies, guys. Yeah, Wesley Snipes correct, I

463
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Speaker 3: think very underrated actor. Really was it before the whole

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Speaker 3: Avengers Marvel universe took off? The Blade movie was was

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Speaker 3: one of the better, uh superhero you know, superhero movies,

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Speaker 3: the second and third one. I think they've made a fourth.

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Speaker 3: We're crap, but that often happened, but the first one

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Speaker 3: was actually pretty good for what it was. Major League

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Speaker 3: is one of my favorite nineties comedies. I think major

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Speaker 3: League the baseball movie, which has the Cleveland Indians.

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Speaker 2: They used to be the Indians, Yes you got that right,

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Speaker 2: this time, not the other team from Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've also changed their name to the Guardians, right,

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Speaker 3: which is right in the movie. I guess they're the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Indians. Yes, I don't think. I don't think you

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Speaker 3: can dead name a team, so I think we could

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Speaker 3: say in the movie, it's the Cleveland Indians.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I bring up Wesley Snipes.

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Speaker 3: He he for I believe he wasnt will full of

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Speaker 3: and I know he went to prison, but I think

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Speaker 3: it was you know, willful evasion of taxes for like

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Speaker 3: one year now it was millions of dollars. He did

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Speaker 3: twenty eight months in federal prison. Yeah, for you know,

484
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Speaker 3: this wasn't like over many years international oligarchs or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight months in federal prison for Wesley Snipes. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm a Wesley steps fan, so I feel

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Speaker 3: like this is truly unjust.

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Speaker 2: Willie mays Hayes one of the great characters in Major

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Speaker 2: League Did you remember his name, the Wesley Snipes character,

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Speaker 2: Willie mays Hayes.

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Speaker 1: I believe I remember correctly.

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Speaker 2: The Blade movies Demolish Passenger fifty seven. We were talking

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Speaker 2: about this the other day, wasn't he in Rising Sun

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Speaker 2: with Sean Conners? Well, I think we were talking about

495
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Speaker 2: off air about japan economy basically tanking starting in the nineties,

496
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Speaker 2: not really moving for thirty years, and whether that could

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Speaker 2: be a prelude for China. But yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: the gun charge is fine, and I'm glad that Hunter

499
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Speaker 2: Biden has been charged at least with one felony, But

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Speaker 2: the real significant felonies are for failing to pay millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars in taxes, and those charges need to be

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Speaker 2: filed immediately. Will they I don't know, but they certainly

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Speaker 2: should be. To me, there's no way to defend the

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Speaker 2: fact that they haven't been filed already.

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Speaker 3: And we know, we know why they weren't filed, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is it couldn't be. It couldn't be

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Speaker 3: any any more clear or obvious. I also think, you

508
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Speaker 3: know that there's a lot of stuff that needs to

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Speaker 3: be aired out, the notion that we have for nonviolent

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Speaker 3: for nonviolent crimes on the federal side, some of these

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Speaker 3: really you know Sam Bankman freed, Yeah for it starts today,

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Speaker 3: which that trial starts today. That guy's facing one hundred

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Speaker 3: something years in prison. Yeah, he's facing one hundred something.

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Speaker 3: Now it wasn't very big fraud. I understand, and we'll

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Speaker 3: see how this ends up going. But you know, they

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Speaker 3: like to make examples of people for white collar crime

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Speaker 3: and fraud, and the tendency among Democrats has been let's

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Speaker 3: lock people up for more and longer. Well, certainly if

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Speaker 3: they're a Republican and we don't like them, Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and others, but also for things that would be kind

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Speaker 3: of white collar crime, right that fall into that category.

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Speaker 3: But violent crime, which is the first thing, especially in

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Speaker 3: jurisdictions where you can't conceal carry and you can't legally

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Speaker 3: own guns, and you know, you're just kind of left

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Speaker 3: to the whim of the state to defend yourself, you know,

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Speaker 3: true in La True in New York City. They want

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Speaker 3: to make violent crime less punished. That's been the trend

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Speaker 3: for not just really in the post George Floyd era,

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Speaker 3: that's been the trend now for over a decade.

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Speaker 1: And again, I think it's important to hammer home.

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Speaker 2: The only place in the only people in DC who

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Speaker 2: are being prosecuted the full six cent in the law

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Speaker 2: are the January sixth defendants. Over half of all felt

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Speaker 2: andies or immediately dropped to misdemeanors. Trump and the January

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Speaker 2: sixth defendants getting prosecuted the full extend of law. Everybody

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Speaker 2: else they're just pretending that there are no crimes at all,

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Speaker 2: and they don't even have the cops to be able

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Speaker 2: to enforce the law. And I believe they're already buck

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Speaker 2: staff look up at this because I saw this stat yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I believe, even as we said at October, DC has

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Speaker 2: over two hundred murders and they're already at a twenty

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Speaker 2: five year high, with still all of October, November, and

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Speaker 2: December to be able unfortunately, to continue to tally additional deaths.

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Speaker 3: One quick way to look at this numerically, how many

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Speaker 3: lives could be saved in DC based on the number

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Speaker 3: of murderers who they will or they have or will

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Speaker 3: arrest in that jurisdiction, who have been arrested more than

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Speaker 3: ten times. I guarantee you it's dozens. That may even

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Speaker 3: reach into three digits. How many lives have been saved

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Speaker 3: or could have been saved rather if they had just

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Speaker 3: said enough is enough, we're locking these individuals up.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, the average, if you missed it right

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Speaker 2: off the top, is eleven arrests. When they know who

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Speaker 2: arrested eleven prior times. This is not somebody suddenly snaps

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred two two two eight a two On those

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Speaker 3: phone lines, you're going to take some of your calls

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Speaker 3: on the crime issue.

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Speaker 1: Just want to tell you though.

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Speaker 3: Next hour, I'm going to kick us off with more

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Speaker 3: updates on immigration, both at the border and then up

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Speaker 3: in New York City. New York City has effectively been

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Speaker 3: turned into a border town because of what is going

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Speaker 3: on with the bussing and also just migrants who want

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Speaker 3: to be in New York City. We've got numbers, and

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Speaker 3: I can tell you there was for this last month

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Speaker 3: of September, pretty stunning stat all time record play, all

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Speaker 3: time record illegal crossing in one month. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to discuss that coming up here and I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what the number is. And just I think this is

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Speaker 3: the issue that could define the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 3: I think it honestly should in many ways define the

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Speaker 3: twenty two for election, so it really does matter in

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Speaker 3: every sense. Let's take some calls. We have Robert in

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Speaker 3: San Antonio, Texas, Oh, he's gone, sorry, Craig in Crystal, Michigan.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeh. I think there's a solution to these repeat

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Speaker 6: violent offenders, and it's an old solution, and it was

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Speaker 6: called being an outlaw. When the king declared you an outlaw,

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Speaker 6: you were no longer subject to the protections of the

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Speaker 6: kingdom and the crown, which would mean after a certain point,

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Speaker 6: you've committed enough violent crimes, you can never be a

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Speaker 6: victim of a crime in your community. Again.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I understand that argument.

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Speaker 2: I think the solution is violent criminals should just be

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Speaker 2: put behind bars. I don't think we need to go

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Speaker 2: to old English law and just, you know, let people

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Speaker 2: get gunned down in the streets because they're not going

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Speaker 2: to be protected anymore. I don't know where the number is,

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Speaker 2: but for those of you just gotten in your car,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about this awful killing of a completely innocent

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Speaker 2: guy in Chattanooga, Tennessee, father of three who's there for

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Speaker 2: his twentieth anniversary of this Baylor school, which is a

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Speaker 2: prominent high school in the Chattanoogay area. He gets gunned down,

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Speaker 2: He's got an eight week old kid, and the guy

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Speaker 2: who shot him has been arrested sixty six times. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the numbers should be, but we did

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Speaker 2: have three strikes in your out back in the day.

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Speaker 2: If you get arrested sixty six times, like you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been able to be arrested sixty six times. You

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Speaker 2: should have been in prison already.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at legislation in a lot of

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Speaker 3: these cities that are experiencing this, if Democrats are in charge, Clay,

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Speaker 3: they continue to push even more in this direction. Right,

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Speaker 3: you would think that they would be moving in the

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Speaker 3: direction of law and order and doing everything possible, but

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Speaker 3: that's actually not what they do. They still think, you know,

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Speaker 3: cashless bail and all these other procedures which have been

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Speaker 3: disastrous should be replicated again. Because I think that this

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Speaker 3: has turned into it it's it is like a religious belief.

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Speaker 3: It's this is we have to purge ourselves of our

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Speaker 3: historic injustice, or of our systemic insufficiencies or whatever by

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Speaker 3: having higher crime rates in cities and having more people

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Speaker 3: get shot and killed, because that's just the reality. This

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Speaker 3: is like to the to the left, this is the

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Speaker 3: price we pay. To the Soros DA's, it's definitely the

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Speaker 3: price we pay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Two things.

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Speaker 2: Buck One, the price is being paid by prim primarily

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Speaker 2: inner city residents, so it is yes, because they're overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: the victims of violence. Second part of this, from a

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Speaker 2: purely political perspective, what George Soros did was brilliant. Again,

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Speaker 2: purely from a political perspective, he realized that with a

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Speaker 2: relatively small amount of money that is influencing these DA

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Speaker 2: elections in so many cities, he could fundamentally transform the

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Speaker 2: way that we dealt with crime in America. And when

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Speaker 2: you look at what it costs to, for instance, win

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Speaker 2: a statewide Senate race, it's oftentimes thirty forty million, depending

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Speaker 2: on where the state is. Certainly in any big state,

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Speaker 2: you could fundamentally transform policing and prosecution in this country

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Speaker 2: by spending a few million dollars because typically these races

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Speaker 2: don't cost very much for who's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be the DA.

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Speaker 3: And it's fascinating. I have friends who ask me. They'll say,

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Speaker 3: why would Soros or anyone affiliate with him? Why would

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Speaker 3: they want to do this, and this is where I

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Speaker 3: get back to the religious sense of there's a purification

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Speaker 3: of our society that needs to happen through increased crime rates.

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Speaker 3: That's how we pay for our historic misdeeds or something.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, but you can't make sense of it other way.

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Speaker 3: What do they think they're doing.

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Speaker 2: I think Buck they thought that these guys were being

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Speaker 2: over punished and they could put them back on the

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Speaker 2: streets and crime wouldn't change.

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Speaker 1: And they've been proven to be one billion percent wrong

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Speaker 1: on that