WEBVTT - I Smell Pop Culture: 24 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.080 I Am all In again. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:12.240 Oh that's just you. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.320 I Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen, an iHeart radio podcast. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.640 Hey everybody, it's Eastern Allen. This is the I Smell 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.200 Pop Culture edition of I Am all In, a podcast 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.800 hosted by Scott Patterson. He is not here right now. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.200 I am here. You're stuck with me. My name is Easton. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.040 Scott Herzer has ordained me to host this episode here. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.400 Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to explore the 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.680 pop culture references, the moments, the legends that are referenced 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.800 in Gilmour Girls, and we're gonna go so deep. We're 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.839 gonna get to know these people. We're gonna hear the 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.640 stories that make them pop culture icons. We're going to 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.200 find out who they are, how they became, who they are, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.040 what they created. It's so much fun. We're having the 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.120 time of our lives over here. This week is so special. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:05.720 I know I say that every time, but this week 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.959 I really really mean it. Okay, this is a really 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.200 special guest we have this week because this person wasn't 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.680 just a pop culture reference on girl More Girls or 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.120 her role she was in Gilmore Girls. She was in 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.520 one of the best moments of Gilmore Girls. If you 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.600 ask me, here's what we're doing. We're talking to mary 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:30.360 Lynn Rice Cub. She was Chloe O'Brien in twenty four. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.479 I know you love twenty four. I love twenty four, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.600 but she was also in Gilmore Girls. We'll talk about 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.080 that in a second, but first I got to tell 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.280 you what these references are. There's two references to twenty 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.479 four that we have found in our research, going back 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.119 and rewatching the entire show before we did this episode. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:54.680 In season seven, episode nineteen, laurale I says, be right back, Yeah, 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.880 you know how Jack Bower should torture terrorists make them 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.000 go car shopping with their exes. Jack Bauer is, of course, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.040 the main character in twenty four, which is a drama 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:09.560 thriller that was told in real time. I remember when 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.240 this came out. It was such an exciting thing, like 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.720 it was like this this is going to be The 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.160 season is twenty four episodes, and each episode is an 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.239 hour of the day, and it's the craziest day you 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.120 could ever imagine. Twenty four started in two thousand and 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:31.160 one and ran until twenty ten, with eight seasons. A 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.840 couple mini series in there, an iconic show. I mean, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.840 if you haven't seen twenty four, you gotta watch it. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:44.079 It's really like legendary. Key for Sutherland again in the 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.520 Star twenty four was mentioned also in Gilmore Girls. When 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.760 we let's fast forward to a year in the Life Fall, 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.720 the Netflix revival, Luke and Laurli are working on the 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.280 guest list for their wedding and we find out that 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.560 Lucas friends with key for Sutherland, the star of twenty four, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.040 and Laura Le says, the real key for Sutherland Chloe. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:05.720 The Canisters are already armed. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:06.040 Damn it. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.359 I can't do these lines, Scott. I can't be in 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:13.280 Gilmore Girls. This is embarrassing. But the Chloe that Lurlai 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:18.720 references in that moment is played by mary Lynn Rice Cub. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.399 She is so funny. She is a comedic actress. She's 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:27.320 so funny. But she was the counter Terrorism Units analyst. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.239 Get this, everybody, she was in twenty four. The only 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.760 other person who was in more episodes of twenty four 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.600 is Key for Sutherland. It's Key for Sutherland, and then 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.080 Marylyn Rice Cub as Chloe. She was in one hundred 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.800 and twenty five episodes of twenty four. It's really incredible. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.520 So we're gonna talk to mary Lynn here in a second. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.960 But I think you already know where I'm going with this. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.800 Mary Lynn was in two episodes of Gilmore Girl. She 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:56.560 played two different characters. One of the characters was She 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.280 appeared alongside our beloved Sean Gunn in film by Kirk, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.880 one of the best moments in Gilmore Girl's history. She 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.280 played Kirk's girlfriend in that short film, that black and 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.520 white film, What do you have to offer? 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:10.440 Who? 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.640 I love your daughter? What do you have to offer her? 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.720 That is Marylyn Rice Cub in that short film. We're 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.480 gonna talk to her all about it. She also returned 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.039 in season six as the Town True as one of 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.480 the Troubadours. When there's the town is overrun by Troubadours, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.120 she is playing at guitar. She sings about her eighty 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.240 nine volvo. It's an original song. It's a great moment. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.680 We're so excited to talk to Marylyn Rice Cub. It's 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.480 the Icemail Pop culture podcast. Hi, mary Lynn, thank you 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:37.640 so much for doing this. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.240 Thanks for having me. This is exciting. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.200 So there's so much to get into. I mean, twenty 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.680 four your stam Up Special We're gonna be talking about 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.600 that so much great stuff, But we have to get 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.240 this out of the way. First of all, Gilmore Girls. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.240 You are in Gilmore Girls. You're in two episodes of 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:57.600 Gilmore Girls. Yeah, but the first one, season two, you 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.720 started alongside Sean Gun in a film by Kirk, one 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.720 of the greatest moments in Gilmore Girl's history. I got 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.360 to know how that happened, how'd that come together? 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:11.680 Yeah, that is the one that people randomly will recognize me, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.400 and it shows me how big of fans of Gilmore 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:21.040 Girls there are. Amy Sherman Palladino was always a long 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.520 time I mean I say was always because we know 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.719 what she became, you know, but at the time the 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:34.640 Gilmore Girls was fairly new, and she was a showrunner, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:39.000 but she was also she's always been a massive comedy fan, 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.600 and so she was really well acquainted with all of 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.040 us in the local LA scene. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.200 And you know, I just. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.000 Feel lucky enough to be in her orbit and that 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:52.960 she would ask me, And I mean that part was 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.960 pretty weirdly tailor made for me a film with Kirk, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:03.160 it made sense. It really needed some follow up. What 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.280 happened to the two of them? 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.000 Yes, I want to know what happened. Like, so, when 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.320 when Amy came to you to be in it, like 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.000 was it did she say like, Hey, we're doing this 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.080 like weird kind of like experimental film, we want you 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.320 to be in. How is it pitched to you? 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.839 Oh gosh, I don't even remember whatever it was. I'm 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.159 sure it was some version of what you just said 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.200 of like trying to explain it. But then you know 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.480 that was in my wheelhouse of like something that was 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.839 performance already, that was funny, that was not funny, that 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.520 was awkward. I mean, I don't think she explained it 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.479 much more than kind of how you just tried to 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.320 describe it. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.440 And I'm trying to remember. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.640 I think I remember being a little bit nervous because 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.599 it was so weird and open ended for that show 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.360 in terms of like wait, what is this? 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.280 How does this fit in? And there really was no 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:04.239 answer to. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.200 That, nor could there have been, But as an actor, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.120 you get that anxiety of like, wait, how does this 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.440 fit into the world, fit into the story? 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.680 Am I hitting the right tone? 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.680 It's like all that went out the window because it 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.080 was just such a weird, odd, you know, and it 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.680 felt weird and odd and it's like, oh, okay, that's how 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.480 it was supposed to be, and yes, great, you're happy. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.200 I'm happy. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.320 I'm glad that you know that it was as awkward 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.840 as it felt to do and weird and like like 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.640 non secretary and. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.480 What if you say it works, you're the boss. And 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.920 of course it was what it needed to be exactly. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.160 It hit everything that I just me personally if we 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:52.960 were making this just for Easton. It hit everything that 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.280 I love. I love awkward things, I love non sequiturs, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.800 I love stuff like that. So I was just on 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.360 the edge of my seat. I wanted more Have you 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.560 done a lot of like student films that were kind 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:07.680 of like that, have you done? 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:08.360 Actually? Yeah? 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.320 And a word to what you just said, I love 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.840 like awkward non sequord That makes me think of like 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:20.440 the brilliance of Amy is that she knows that and 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.640 she's able to insert it within the narrative of this 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:28.520 already in progress show. But she gives it to us 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.640 on a platter of like, well, you know this character, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.160 and of course he would be the He's the perfect 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.360 person to make something like this, and then you know 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.640 what I mean, Like she sees the audience's point of 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.360 view to just your point to enjoy on that level 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.880 of like all the townspeople being like, okay, well that 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.240 was a film by Kirk, Like it was just beautifully 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.400 done and the black and white and the casting of 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:58.000 it is hilarious and weird. And yes, I have been 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.720 in student films like that, and I have. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.120 You know, I came up in art school. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.640 I went to art school and I studied performance art, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.920 so and there there was a lot of crossover between 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.800 people who were straight narrative storytellers. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.640 But it's, you know, a place where you can blur. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.720 These lines and not have a script fully formed, not 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.959 even have an idea that's fully formed, and go ahead 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.679 and commit that to film or commit that to a performance, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.679 even if it's like a gesture or like some kind 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.520 of half assed thing that seems like way deeper than 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.200 it really is. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.840 Yeah, I was very versed in that. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.840 Wow, so you have a bad like you say, a performance? 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.800 Are I love that? Did that? Like when you got 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.920 into comedy? Did how much did that? 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:50.080 Like? 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.560 Train? Like, I mean I must have prepared you for 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.559 for like getting on stage and making people laugh, but 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.080 also like I'm just curious how that training kind of 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.760 worked into your comedic career. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.640 Uh, thank you for asking you are you are on point? 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:06.840 Because I was. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.760 I went to school for painting, and I it's a 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.200 very personal you know, as we all should. All of 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:19.360 our paths hopefully are personally, you know, psychologically and emotionally, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.960 and you know what you desire oriented if we're lucky enough. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.880 I got to kind of follow that path by going 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.160 to art school to be a painter because I didn't 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.360 want to just go get a job and I didn't 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.520 make it any big colleges and so I loved it, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.280 but I painting I was sort of imploding, you know. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.880 So I started performing and I did acting in high 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.200 school and as a child, and I really loved it. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.400 I just didn't think it was the thing that you 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.680 go to school for. So I was like, oh, painting, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:55.080 that makes sense. But then painting is such a solitary thing, 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.119 and I didn't really understand a lot of the critiques 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.920 and the way that people were building themselves up as painters. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.880 It just wasn't like I sort of had this like 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.120 energy that was busting to get out of me and 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.240 connection and I think I, you know, I was sort 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.720 of destined, and so I started doing performance art, but 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.040 a lot of that stuff mine was always comedic, but 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.760 I didn't realize it was comedic. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.160 But I also was just. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.200 You know, a weird art school kid, so I didn't 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:30.600 have the presence of mind to articulate socially or otherwise 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.360 like a stand up comic. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.080 I didn't relate to what a stand up comic was. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.559 So when I started doing performance art, I almost then 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.079 started making fun of performance art, and that's what pushed 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.280 me out of the art world and into the comedy world. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.040 So I just was able, long winded way of saying, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.600 I was just able to take an organic path with that, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.200 and a lot of the early performances that I did, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.679 I did not understand why people were laughing, but I 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.160 knew who I was funny, so it was fine figuring 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.800 out how I was funny, and I got. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.360 To do that through, you know, being a character on stage. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.360 It's so beautiful. I love like that style of exploring 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.160 how you're expressing yourself and how you're finding the type 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:15.920 of art you want to make. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.679 I feel very lucky that I was able to follow 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.040 that path like that. I really do, because if I had, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.920 you know, shown up with the stack of headshots like 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.839 it wouldn't taking that trying to take the straight path 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.880 that sometimes you're forcing something that you're not ready to do, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.640 or it's it's not really aligned with where you're coming from. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:43.080 And I think that's so important for anyone that's in 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:48.120 art of any kind. You have to, you know, figure 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.920 out what you can really be aligned with. I don't 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.199 know any more specific way to say that. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.839 No, No, it makes sense, true to it, I guess. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:12:59.520 Yeah. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.120 And you're speaking of making art. You when you return 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.160 to Gilmore Girls in season six, you're at the town Troubadour. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.559 You're playing some music. You got a guitar on Uh 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.320 do you play guitar? Do you have a musical background? 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.880 No, I had a comedy band with a friend of 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.880 mine at the time. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.280 She taught me how taught up. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:27.120 She taught me like three chords and right, and so 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.520 we just played this Eagles song. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.080 I think it was, I forgot what song it was, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.080 over and over again. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.200 Oh no, I think Ring a Fire was one of 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.560 the first, you know, these very awesome songs that I 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.240 only take three chords. And then we immediately started going 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.880 on stage, but it was more of a comedy act. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:53.160 She became much better at guitar than I ever did, uh, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.800 but I knew enough that I could, and even that 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.400 on Gilmore Girls, it was nerve wracking, you know, to 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.880 lay and sing is like so nerve wracking. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.439 But thankfully I knew that I was only. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.480 Gonna have to do it, you know, two to four 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.960 lines of that song, and that it'd be moving on. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.079 And that was That's also. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.240 Like the brilliance of it, because I was like perfect, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.400 Like if I I mean definitely I would if I 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.360 was like a Troubadour that was in the whole episode or. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.880 Had it like an arc, I would figure it out. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.920 But that was the perfect amount of like, oh, okay, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.080 I did that. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.320 You know, now did you who wrote the song? I 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.040 want to know that you wrote the song? All right? 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.400 And she let me do it, and you know, again, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.240 that's such a testament to her and her trust in 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:48.840 her vision and her trust in when she hires people 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.240 that she likes because she knows what she wants and 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.240 she knows what she likes and that in that instance, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.760 that's what it called for and that's what she needed 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.160 and she. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.680 Allowed me to do it. And it was so fun. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.080 I mean I remember it to this day just you know, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.320 it was kind of exhilarating. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.360 It's such a great moment too, and hearing that about 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.920 Amy Sherman Palladino is so excited. Like we've interviewed a 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.720 few people that have been on the show, and they 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.400 always tell us like, she has such a specific vision 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.960 for what she's doing, but when she brings people in, 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.880 she trusts them to do their thing, and that's why 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.240 she brought them in. I just think it's such a 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.280 cool balance of like having a vision but also being 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:36.480 collaborative and bringing other people in that are creative and 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.200 have an idea. It's really cool about that. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.200 And the nutshell is I mean, obviously her immense talent 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.160 and writing a thing, but but what you just described 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:51.840 I think is what makes you know, the most the highest, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:57.320 the most iconic creators I think have that you know, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.400 the specificity of vision and the confidence, but then also 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:06.440 the trust because it's such a like massive collaboration and 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.040 and just see over the years, like what she's created 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:15.360 it is just mind blowing, Like it's such a testament. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.360 It's like, wait, what you did that, and then you 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.480 did it again, and then you did it and then 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.480 you're just like are creating the most gorgeous, you know, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.080 just on all on all levels, on all layers, just 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.680 working at the highest, you know, integrity. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.600 She's it's just she's my favorite. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.720 It's it's tremendous. It's really sounding. I have to This 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.280 is like such a nerd question, but I want to 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.880 ask it because I'm curious. Do you think is the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.240 troubadour character the same as the girl in the film? 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:50.040 Is that the same? 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:55.120 Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I just wanted 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.800 to ask, because there's out there. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.800 If you could bend it and say she became he 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.200 went through some hard knocks and became a troubadour. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:09.120 But no, those are two very different people, Okay, innocence 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:15.240 of the girl and Kirk's film, the purity of that. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.960 Expression versus the grizzled I mean, the Troubadour is pretty 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.200 sweet and pure too, But but no, I would say 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.600 the Troubadour has seen some life. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:30.040 Yes, absolutely lived some life. Did you that the short 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.639 film moment? The audio from it, like went viral on 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.879 TikTok a few months back. I don't know if you 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.240 saw that, the like, I love your daughter, what do 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:37.959 you have to offer her? 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.240 I saw it. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.679 I posted a I did it, did one myself, but 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.280 that my friend found it and he. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.960 What is the actor's name who has the show that Jordan. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.480 Were saying, Brian Jordan Alvarez, a friend of mine is 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.720 a really huge fan of his, and he's like, so 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.040 I just kept seeing him do and I praised it 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.880 and he was like, good, then, oh, there you were, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.199 and and so that's how I found out. And he's like, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.359 you gotta you gotta post on this, and so I 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.639 did and it was super fun, like I felt like, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.960 you know it, it was a it was a fun reveal. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.639 Yes, it's so awesome. I uh, I just love that. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.720 You're like, you're the center of that. It's so cool. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.120 But you're also at the center of a world called 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.640 twenty four and we have we have to get into 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.760 twenty four. That is your that's a big connection to 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.600 Gilmore Girls too, and we're going to do that in 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.879 just a second. This is the I Smell Pop Culture Podcast. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:50.679 We're gonna hear some great commercials. Everybody, one second. It 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.359 is I Smell Pop Culture on the IML and podcast. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.320 My name is Easton Allen. We're hanging out with mary 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.280 Lyn Riis cub from twenty four from a short film 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.119 by Kirk a film by Kirk, but twenty four was 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.159 mentioned a couple times in Gilmour Girls. You know, we 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.959 love their pop culture references. But Chloe, Chloe O'Brien, your 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.480 character was specifically mentioned in the Netflix revival. It's in 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.880 fall and Luke and Lareli are working on the guest 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.840 list for their wedding and we found out that Luke 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:23.639 is friends with Keifer Sutherland. And to clarify, Laurel As, like, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.000 you mean the real keeper Sutherland, Like Chloe, the canisters 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.440 are already armed, damn it. And like Lucas, I guess it's 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.200 a real key for Sutherland. So twenty four, I mean 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.280 it went incredible. Run. First of all, I look this up. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.159 This is incredible. You're in the most episodes besides Keefer, 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.639 Like it's him, and then you wow, that's wild. What 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.000 one hundred and twenty five episodes? 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:45.960 It's unreal? 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:51.800 Unreal? Okay, so you joined in season three? How did 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.080 tell me? How that? How did you because you were 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.240 doing mostly comedy before this, Like, how did you get 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.560 into the world of twenty four? Into this? 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.879 Like Thrilla one of the producers had seen me in 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.040 a movie called Punch Trunk. 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.840 Love, and actually they are. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.880 I don't know who told who, but they the producers 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.440 called me in and they said, we like your quality 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.360 in this movie, this kind of overbearing bossy, and we 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.240 don't really the part wasn't really written yet. On the page, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.520 it was just yes, Jack, and they said, we just 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.639 wanted to meet with you. We like you for this role. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.880 It's not written yet, but we're going to develop it. 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.800 And it was one of those things where I just thought, well, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.440 that was amazing to just be recognized and call in 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:40.240 like that. 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.920 I didn't even necessarily think it was going to pan. 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:48.440 Out, because that's how everything goes, you know, some kind 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.840 of things that are a sure thing really are not. 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.159 And I was just happy to have the meeting. 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:59.639 And then it worked out, and I don't it just 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:04.680 started working somehow. I remember people being really annoyed. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.160 With my character at first. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.520 Because I was sort of seemed like I was getting 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.280 in the way and I was in know it all. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.960 And then the episode I don't remember specifically what the 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.840 episode was, but they they wrote me they revealed that 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.479 I actually helped Jack. So up until that point I 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.280 was just like this, like oh, look, I'm trying. I'm 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.040 doing it, Like, why isn't anyone listening to me? And 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.080 then when it showed that I was working with him 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.920 and I did something to help him, that's when everything changed, 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.760 because people loved him so much that it suddenly gave 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.720 this annoying character this whole like, oh wait a minute, 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.119 we didn't know that about her, so it kind of 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:54.600 gave this fun layer to the character that was unexpected 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.840 that I think just was fun. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.399 And then from that point on, we just like, you know, 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:01.199 roll with it. 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.560 Well, I'm glad that people came around on Chloe because 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.479 she's such a great character. 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:10.240