Speaker 1: I Am all In again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
Speaker 1: I Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen, an iHeart radio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Eastern Allen. This is the I Smell
Speaker 1: Pop Culture edition of I Am all In, a podcast
Speaker 1: hosted by Scott Patterson. He is not here right now.
Speaker 1: I am here. You're stuck with me. My name is Easton.
Speaker 1: Scott Herzer has ordained me to host this episode here.
Speaker 1: Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to explore the
Speaker 1: pop culture references, the moments, the legends that are referenced
Speaker 1: in Gilmour Girls, and we're gonna go so deep. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know these people. We're gonna hear the
Speaker 1: stories that make them pop culture icons. We're going to
Speaker 1: find out who they are, how they became, who they are,
Speaker 1: what they created. It's so much fun. We're having the
Speaker 1: time of our lives over here. This week is so special.
Speaker 1: I know I say that every time, but this week
Speaker 1: I really really mean it. Okay, this is a really
Speaker 1: special guest we have this week because this person wasn't
Speaker 1: just a pop culture reference on girl More Girls or
Speaker 1: her role she was in Gilmore Girls. She was in
Speaker 1: one of the best moments of Gilmore Girls. If you
Speaker 1: ask me, here's what we're doing. We're talking to mary
Speaker 1: Lynn Rice Cub. She was Chloe O'Brien in twenty four.
Speaker 1: I know you love twenty four. I love twenty four,
Speaker 1: but she was also in Gilmore Girls. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that in a second, but first I got to tell
Speaker 1: you what these references are. There's two references to twenty
Speaker 1: four that we have found in our research, going back
Speaker 1: and rewatching the entire show before we did this episode.
Speaker 1: In season seven, episode nineteen, laurale I says, be right back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how Jack Bower should torture terrorists make them
Speaker 1: go car shopping with their exes. Jack Bauer is, of course,
Speaker 1: the main character in twenty four, which is a drama
Speaker 1: thriller that was told in real time. I remember when
Speaker 1: this came out. It was such an exciting thing, like
Speaker 1: it was like this this is going to be The
Speaker 1: season is twenty four episodes, and each episode is an
Speaker 1: hour of the day, and it's the craziest day you
Speaker 1: could ever imagine. Twenty four started in two thousand and
Speaker 1: one and ran until twenty ten, with eight seasons. A
Speaker 1: couple mini series in there, an iconic show. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen twenty four, you gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: It's really like legendary. Key for Sutherland again in the
Speaker 1: Star twenty four was mentioned also in Gilmore Girls. When
Speaker 1: we let's fast forward to a year in the Life Fall,
Speaker 1: the Netflix revival, Luke and Laurli are working on the
Speaker 1: guest list for their wedding and we find out that
Speaker 1: Lucas friends with key for Sutherland, the star of twenty four,
Speaker 1: and Laura Le says, the real key for Sutherland Chloe.
Speaker 1: The Canisters are already armed.
Speaker 3: Damn it.
Speaker 1: I can't do these lines, Scott. I can't be in
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. This is embarrassing. But the Chloe that Lurlai
Speaker 1: references in that moment is played by mary Lynn Rice Cub.
Speaker 1: She is so funny. She is a comedic actress. She's
Speaker 1: so funny. But she was the counter Terrorism Units analyst.
Speaker 1: Get this, everybody, she was in twenty four. The only
Speaker 1: other person who was in more episodes of twenty four
Speaker 1: is Key for Sutherland. It's Key for Sutherland, and then
Speaker 1: Marylyn Rice Cub as Chloe. She was in one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five episodes of twenty four. It's really incredible.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk to mary Lynn here in a second.
Speaker 1: But I think you already know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: Mary Lynn was in two episodes of Gilmore Girl. She
Speaker 1: played two different characters. One of the characters was She
Speaker 1: appeared alongside our beloved Sean Gunn in film by Kirk,
Speaker 1: one of the best moments in Gilmore Girl's history. She
Speaker 1: played Kirk's girlfriend in that short film, that black and
Speaker 1: white film, What do you have to offer?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 1: I love your daughter? What do you have to offer her?
Speaker 1: That is Marylyn Rice Cub in that short film. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to her all about it. She also returned
Speaker 1: in season six as the Town True as one of
Speaker 1: the Troubadours. When there's the town is overrun by Troubadours,
Speaker 1: she is playing at guitar. She sings about her eighty
Speaker 1: nine volvo. It's an original song. It's a great moment.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to talk to Marylyn Rice Cub. It's
Speaker 1: the Icemail Pop culture podcast. Hi, mary Lynn, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for doing this.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. This is exciting.
Speaker 1: So there's so much to get into. I mean, twenty
Speaker 1: four your stam Up Special We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: that so much great stuff, But we have to get
Speaker 1: this out of the way. First of all, Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: You are in Gilmore Girls. You're in two episodes of
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. Yeah, but the first one, season two, you
Speaker 1: started alongside Sean Gun in a film by Kirk, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest moments in Gilmore Girl's history. I got
Speaker 1: to know how that happened, how'd that come together?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the one that people randomly will recognize me,
Speaker 2: and it shows me how big of fans of Gilmore
Speaker 2: Girls there are. Amy Sherman Palladino was always a long
Speaker 2: time I mean I say was always because we know
Speaker 2: what she became, you know, but at the time the
Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls was fairly new, and she was a showrunner,
Speaker 2: but she was also she's always been a massive comedy fan,
Speaker 2: and so she was really well acquainted with all of
Speaker 2: us in the local LA scene.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just.
Speaker 2: Feel lucky enough to be in her orbit and that
Speaker 2: she would ask me, And I mean that part was
Speaker 2: pretty weirdly tailor made for me a film with Kirk,
Speaker 2: it made sense. It really needed some follow up. What
Speaker 2: happened to the two of them?
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to know what happened. Like, so, when
Speaker 1: when Amy came to you to be in it, like
Speaker 1: was it did she say like, Hey, we're doing this
Speaker 1: like weird kind of like experimental film, we want you
Speaker 1: to be in. How is it pitched to you?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't even remember whatever it was. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it was some version of what you just said
Speaker 2: of like trying to explain it. But then you know
Speaker 2: that was in my wheelhouse of like something that was
Speaker 2: performance already, that was funny, that was not funny, that
Speaker 2: was awkward. I mean, I don't think she explained it
Speaker 2: much more than kind of how you just tried to
Speaker 2: describe it.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2: I think I remember being a little bit nervous because
Speaker 2: it was so weird and open ended for that show
Speaker 2: in terms of like wait, what is this?
Speaker 3: How does this fit in? And there really was no
Speaker 3: answer to.
Speaker 2: That, nor could there have been, But as an actor,
Speaker 2: you get that anxiety of like, wait, how does this
Speaker 2: fit into the world, fit into the story?
Speaker 3: Am I hitting the right tone?
Speaker 2: It's like all that went out the window because it
Speaker 2: was just such a weird, odd, you know, and it
Speaker 2: felt weird and odd and it's like, oh, okay, that's how
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be, and yes, great, you're happy.
Speaker 3: I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you know that it was as awkward
Speaker 2: as it felt to do and weird and like like
Speaker 2: non secretary and.
Speaker 3: What if you say it works, you're the boss. And
Speaker 3: of course it was what it needed to be exactly.
Speaker 1: It hit everything that I just me personally if we
Speaker 1: were making this just for Easton. It hit everything that
Speaker 1: I love. I love awkward things, I love non sequiturs,
Speaker 1: I love stuff like that. So I was just on
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat. I wanted more Have you
Speaker 1: done a lot of like student films that were kind
Speaker 1: of like that, have you done?
Speaker 3: Actually? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And a word to what you just said, I love
Speaker 2: like awkward non sequord That makes me think of like
Speaker 2: the brilliance of Amy is that she knows that and
Speaker 2: she's able to insert it within the narrative of this
Speaker 2: already in progress show. But she gives it to us
Speaker 2: on a platter of like, well, you know this character,
Speaker 2: and of course he would be the He's the perfect
Speaker 2: person to make something like this, and then you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like she sees the audience's point of
Speaker 2: view to just your point to enjoy on that level
Speaker 2: of like all the townspeople being like, okay, well that
Speaker 2: was a film by Kirk, Like it was just beautifully
Speaker 2: done and the black and white and the casting of
Speaker 2: it is hilarious and weird. And yes, I have been
Speaker 2: in student films like that, and I have.
Speaker 3: You know, I came up in art school.
Speaker 2: I went to art school and I studied performance art,
Speaker 2: so and there there was a lot of crossover between
Speaker 2: people who were straight narrative storytellers.
Speaker 3: But it's, you know, a place where you can blur.
Speaker 2: These lines and not have a script fully formed, not
Speaker 2: even have an idea that's fully formed, and go ahead
Speaker 2: and commit that to film or commit that to a performance,
Speaker 2: even if it's like a gesture or like some kind
Speaker 2: of half assed thing that seems like way deeper than
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very versed in that.
Speaker 1: Wow, so you have a bad like you say, a performance?
Speaker 1: Are I love that? Did that? Like when you got
Speaker 1: into comedy? Did how much did that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Train? Like, I mean I must have prepared you for
Speaker 1: for like getting on stage and making people laugh, but
Speaker 1: also like I'm just curious how that training kind of
Speaker 1: worked into your comedic career.
Speaker 3: Uh, thank you for asking you are you are on point?
Speaker 3: Because I was.
Speaker 2: I went to school for painting, and I it's a
Speaker 2: very personal you know, as we all should. All of
Speaker 2: our paths hopefully are personally, you know, psychologically and emotionally,
Speaker 2: and you know what you desire oriented if we're lucky enough.
Speaker 2: I got to kind of follow that path by going
Speaker 2: to art school to be a painter because I didn't
Speaker 2: want to just go get a job and I didn't
Speaker 2: make it any big colleges and so I loved it,
Speaker 2: but I painting I was sort of imploding, you know.
Speaker 2: So I started performing and I did acting in high
Speaker 2: school and as a child, and I really loved it.
Speaker 2: I just didn't think it was the thing that you
Speaker 2: go to school for. So I was like, oh, painting,
Speaker 2: that makes sense. But then painting is such a solitary thing,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really understand a lot of the critiques
Speaker 2: and the way that people were building themselves up as painters.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't like I sort of had this like
Speaker 2: energy that was busting to get out of me and
Speaker 2: connection and I think I, you know, I was sort
Speaker 2: of destined, and so I started doing performance art, but
Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff mine was always comedic, but
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was comedic.
Speaker 3: But I also was just.
Speaker 2: You know, a weird art school kid, so I didn't
Speaker 2: have the presence of mind to articulate socially or otherwise
Speaker 2: like a stand up comic.
Speaker 3: I didn't relate to what a stand up comic was.
Speaker 2: So when I started doing performance art, I almost then
Speaker 2: started making fun of performance art, and that's what pushed
Speaker 2: me out of the art world and into the comedy world.
Speaker 2: So I just was able, long winded way of saying,
Speaker 2: I was just able to take an organic path with that,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the early performances that I did,
Speaker 2: I did not understand why people were laughing, but I
Speaker 2: knew who I was funny, so it was fine figuring
Speaker 2: out how I was funny, and I got.
Speaker 3: To do that through, you know, being a character on stage.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. I love like that style of exploring
Speaker 1: how you're expressing yourself and how you're finding the type
Speaker 1: of art you want to make.
Speaker 2: I feel very lucky that I was able to follow
Speaker 2: that path like that. I really do, because if I had,
Speaker 2: you know, shown up with the stack of headshots like
Speaker 2: it wouldn't taking that trying to take the straight path
Speaker 2: that sometimes you're forcing something that you're not ready to do,
Speaker 2: or it's it's not really aligned with where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: And I think that's so important for anyone that's in
Speaker 2: art of any kind. You have to, you know, figure
Speaker 2: out what you can really be aligned with. I don't
Speaker 2: know any more specific way to say that.
Speaker 3: No, No, it makes sense, true to it, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you're speaking of making art. You when you return
Speaker 1: to Gilmore Girls in season six, you're at the town Troubadour.
Speaker 1: You're playing some music. You got a guitar on Uh
Speaker 1: do you play guitar? Do you have a musical background?
Speaker 2: No, I had a comedy band with a friend of
Speaker 2: mine at the time.
Speaker 3: She taught me how taught up.
Speaker 2: She taught me like three chords and right, and so
Speaker 2: we just played this Eagles song.
Speaker 3: I think it was, I forgot what song it was,
Speaker 3: over and over again.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think Ring a Fire was one of
Speaker 2: the first, you know, these very awesome songs that I
Speaker 2: only take three chords. And then we immediately started going
Speaker 2: on stage, but it was more of a comedy act.
Speaker 2: She became much better at guitar than I ever did, uh,
Speaker 2: but I knew enough that I could, and even that
Speaker 2: on Gilmore Girls, it was nerve wracking, you know, to
Speaker 2: lay and sing is like so nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: But thankfully I knew that I was only.
Speaker 2: Gonna have to do it, you know, two to four
Speaker 2: lines of that song, and that it'd be moving on.
Speaker 3: And that was That's also.
Speaker 2: Like the brilliance of it, because I was like perfect,
Speaker 2: Like if I I mean definitely I would if I
Speaker 2: was like a Troubadour that was in the whole episode or.
Speaker 3: Had it like an arc, I would figure it out.
Speaker 2: But that was the perfect amount of like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I did that.
Speaker 1: You know, now did you who wrote the song? I
Speaker 1: want to know that you wrote the song? All right?
Speaker 2: And she let me do it, and you know, again,
Speaker 2: that's such a testament to her and her trust in
Speaker 2: her vision and her trust in when she hires people
Speaker 2: that she likes because she knows what she wants and
Speaker 2: she knows what she likes and that in that instance,
Speaker 2: that's what it called for and that's what she needed
Speaker 2: and she.
Speaker 3: Allowed me to do it. And it was so fun.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember it to this day just you know,
Speaker 2: it was kind of exhilarating.
Speaker 1: It's such a great moment too, and hearing that about
Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino is so excited. Like we've interviewed a
Speaker 1: few people that have been on the show, and they
Speaker 1: always tell us like, she has such a specific vision
Speaker 1: for what she's doing, but when she brings people in,
Speaker 1: she trusts them to do their thing, and that's why
Speaker 1: she brought them in. I just think it's such a
Speaker 1: cool balance of like having a vision but also being
Speaker 1: collaborative and bringing other people in that are creative and
Speaker 1: have an idea. It's really cool about that.
Speaker 2: And the nutshell is I mean, obviously her immense talent
Speaker 2: and writing a thing, but but what you just described
Speaker 2: I think is what makes you know, the most the highest,
Speaker 2: the most iconic creators I think have that you know,
Speaker 2: the specificity of vision and the confidence, but then also
Speaker 2: the trust because it's such a like massive collaboration and
Speaker 2: and just see over the years, like what she's created
Speaker 2: it is just mind blowing, Like it's such a testament.
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, what you did that, and then you
Speaker 2: did it again, and then you did it and then
Speaker 2: you're just like are creating the most gorgeous, you know,
Speaker 2: just on all on all levels, on all layers, just
Speaker 2: working at the highest, you know, integrity.
Speaker 3: She's it's just she's my favorite.
Speaker 1: It's it's tremendous. It's really sounding. I have to This
Speaker 1: is like such a nerd question, but I want to
Speaker 1: ask it because I'm curious. Do you think is the
Speaker 1: troubadour character the same as the girl in the film?
Speaker 3: Is that the same?
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for clearing that up. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to ask, because there's out there.
Speaker 2: If you could bend it and say she became he
Speaker 2: went through some hard knocks and became a troubadour.
Speaker 3: But no, those are two very different people, Okay, innocence
Speaker 3: of the girl and Kirk's film, the purity of that.
Speaker 2: Expression versus the grizzled I mean, the Troubadour is pretty
Speaker 2: sweet and pure too, But but no, I would say
Speaker 2: the Troubadour has seen some life.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely lived some life. Did you that the short
Speaker 1: film moment? The audio from it, like went viral on
Speaker 1: TikTok a few months back. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw that, the like, I love your daughter, what do
Speaker 1: you have to offer her?
Speaker 3: I saw it.
Speaker 2: I posted a I did it, did one myself, but
Speaker 2: that my friend found it and he.
Speaker 3: What is the actor's name who has the show that Jordan.
Speaker 2: Were saying, Brian Jordan Alvarez, a friend of mine is
Speaker 2: a really huge fan of his, and he's like, so
Speaker 2: I just kept seeing him do and I praised it
Speaker 2: and he was like, good, then, oh, there you were,
Speaker 2: and and so that's how I found out. And he's like,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta post on this, and so I
Speaker 2: did and it was super fun, like I felt like,
Speaker 2: you know it, it was a it was a fun reveal.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so awesome. I uh, I just love that.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're the center of that. It's so cool.
Speaker 1: But you're also at the center of a world called
Speaker 1: twenty four and we have we have to get into
Speaker 1: twenty four. That is your that's a big connection to
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls too, and we're going to do that in
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Speaker 1: is I Smell Pop Culture on the IML and podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Easton Allen. We're hanging out with mary
Speaker 1: Lyn Riis cub from twenty four from a short film
Speaker 1: by Kirk a film by Kirk, but twenty four was
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple times in Gilmour Girls. You know, we
Speaker 1: love their pop culture references. But Chloe, Chloe O'Brien, your
Speaker 1: character was specifically mentioned in the Netflix revival. It's in
Speaker 1: fall and Luke and Lareli are working on the guest
Speaker 1: list for their wedding and we found out that Luke
Speaker 1: is friends with Keifer Sutherland. And to clarify, Laurel As, like,
Speaker 1: you mean the real keeper Sutherland, Like Chloe, the canisters
Speaker 1: are already armed, damn it. And like Lucas, I guess it's
Speaker 1: a real key for Sutherland. So twenty four, I mean
Speaker 1: it went incredible. Run. First of all, I look this up.
Speaker 1: This is incredible. You're in the most episodes besides Keefer,
Speaker 1: Like it's him, and then you wow, that's wild. What
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five episodes?
Speaker 3: It's unreal?
Speaker 1: Unreal? Okay, so you joined in season three? How did
Speaker 1: tell me? How that? How did you because you were
Speaker 1: doing mostly comedy before this, Like, how did you get
Speaker 1: into the world of twenty four? Into this?
Speaker 2: Like Thrilla one of the producers had seen me in
Speaker 2: a movie called Punch Trunk.
Speaker 3: Love, and actually they are.
Speaker 2: I don't know who told who, but they the producers
Speaker 2: called me in and they said, we like your quality
Speaker 2: in this movie, this kind of overbearing bossy, and we
Speaker 2: don't really the part wasn't really written yet. On the page,
Speaker 2: it was just yes, Jack, and they said, we just
Speaker 2: wanted to meet with you. We like you for this role.
Speaker 2: It's not written yet, but we're going to develop it.
Speaker 2: And it was one of those things where I just thought, well,
Speaker 2: that was amazing to just be recognized and call in
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I didn't even necessarily think it was going to pan.
Speaker 2: Out, because that's how everything goes, you know, some kind
Speaker 2: of things that are a sure thing really are not.
Speaker 3: And I was just happy to have the meeting.
Speaker 2: And then it worked out, and I don't it just
Speaker 2: started working somehow. I remember people being really annoyed.
Speaker 3: With my character at first.
Speaker 2: Because I was sort of seemed like I was getting
Speaker 2: in the way and I was in know it all.
Speaker 2: And then the episode I don't remember specifically what the
Speaker 2: episode was, but they they wrote me they revealed that
Speaker 2: I actually helped Jack. So up until that point I
Speaker 2: was just like this, like oh, look, I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 2: doing it, Like, why isn't anyone listening to me? And
Speaker 2: then when it showed that I was working with him
Speaker 2: and I did something to help him, that's when everything changed,
Speaker 2: because people loved him so much that it suddenly gave
Speaker 2: this annoying character this whole like, oh wait a minute,
Speaker 2: we didn't know that about her, so it kind of
Speaker 2: gave this fun layer to the character that was unexpected
Speaker 2: that I think just was fun.
Speaker 3: And then from that point on, we just like, you know,
Speaker 3: roll with it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that people came around on Chloe because
Speaker 1: she's such a great character.
Speaker 3: Well they were forced.
Speaker 2: To because they're like wait, and then it got to
Speaker 2: the point where it's like, well, he can't do that
Speaker 2: without her, And.
Speaker 1: Of course, do you consider yourself like a techie person?
Speaker 1: Was like learning all the jargon hard for you?
Speaker 3: Oh, it was really hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've told this story before where I on the
Speaker 2: first day of shooting, I, you know, the show was
Speaker 2: already massively popular, and as you had mentioned, I hadn't
Speaker 2: really done any dramas and I got thrown on this
Speaker 2: set and I'm a pretty quick study, and I felt
Speaker 2: like I had a handle on it, and I did
Speaker 2: for the first take, and then they go, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a show like that has done like a film,
Speaker 2: so there's long breaks while they relighte and you know,
Speaker 2: everything shifts, but you're still in the same scene. So
Speaker 2: we went back like twenty thirty minutes later, and the
Speaker 2: stuff that I delivered once where you know, I had
Speaker 2: limited experience in like little movies, live comedic sitcoms where
Speaker 2: you're in front of an audience, and so you know,
Speaker 2: I did that first take and I'm like, I nailed it.
Speaker 2: Not that I didn't know there was gonna be like
Speaker 2: other angles, but I just didn't realize that. My body
Speaker 2: and my mind were like bye, Like we did it once,
Speaker 2: like we're done, and like I lit it and I
Speaker 2: showed up and it just would not come out of
Speaker 2: my mouth, and I was and the you know, the
Speaker 2: more it didn't come out, the worse it got. And
Speaker 2: I just was like got really hot, like so humiliated,
Speaker 2: and we had to take a break and I had
Speaker 2: to go into the corner and like drill the line
Speaker 2: over and over again and kind of like shake it
Speaker 2: off and come back. We got through the day and
Speaker 2: then at the end of the day, the director said,
Speaker 2: don't worry.
Speaker 3: That happens to everyone.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's not And you know that the
Speaker 2: show was like so intense in the plot, yeah, so
Speaker 2: quickly that there were so many people over the years
Speaker 2: that would come on for one episode, two episode, and
Speaker 2: so you're you're all.
Speaker 3: Of a sudden, it's like and go.
Speaker 2: And so that made me feel a lot better that
Speaker 2: I wasn't the only one that completely was like, oh,
Speaker 2: because it doesn't your brain has nothing to hang on to.
Speaker 3: So I developed well.
Speaker 2: First of all, I was much more prepared in terms
Speaker 2: of working on the memorization instead of being like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a quick study. Because if something's like a natural
Speaker 2: way of talking, I'm like, oh, that's a natural way
Speaker 2: of talking.
Speaker 3: But when it's something that you can't, you don't know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So I started like drilling it beforehand so I would
Speaker 2: be over prepared. And then if I really couldn't get it,
Speaker 2: I developed like a mnemonic. I would just break up
Speaker 2: the word by sound, and I would associate the sound
Speaker 2: like you would do with my last name, like how
Speaker 2: do you you know? Like it's right, it's rice, So
Speaker 2: you pitt your like a rice and a cub. So
Speaker 2: it would take these like technical words and just break
Speaker 2: them down into sounds if I needed to, because sometimes
Speaker 2: there would be speeches where it would be normal, normal, normal,
Speaker 2: and then you'd.
Speaker 3: Have to say like four or five like the thing.
Speaker 2: And I can't even do like a fake example right
Speaker 2: now because they're weird and hard. But you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like just a bunch of technical stuff where
Speaker 2: if you're acting and you're in the moment again, your
Speaker 2: brain can just.
Speaker 3: Be like, mmm, does not I will not adhere to
Speaker 3: this because the.
Speaker 2: Weird thing happens when you're acting where you're like making
Speaker 2: it real and then it's almost like it wants to
Speaker 2: reject the words that it doesn't know. Even if you've
Speaker 2: studied and you go, no, okay, this word actually means
Speaker 2: this and you associate it with the thing. Sometimes that
Speaker 2: didn't work. So yeah, I would break it down into
Speaker 2: like sounds.
Speaker 1: It's so fascinating because like I mean, I've never acted,
Speaker 1: I likely will never act, but like it's it's such
Speaker 1: a like muscle memory part of it. But you also
Speaker 1: have to, like, you know, put in this creative expression thing.
Speaker 1: And we hear about this on Gilmore Girls, a lot
Speaker 1: because with Gilmore Girls, you have to talk very fast,
Speaker 1: and there's like a lot of you know, you have
Speaker 1: to and there's there's no improv you have to see
Speaker 1: exactly what they wrote very fast. And so I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: like in twenty four, could could you improve it all?
Speaker 1: Could you go off script? Like how loose were they
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: Not really and you but honestly, I imagine it was
Speaker 2: looser than you would think.
Speaker 3: It would be interesting, like in terms of.
Speaker 2: If you got if you didn't got to turn a
Speaker 2: phrase wrong, or you maybe added a couple of words
Speaker 2: and it made sense and felt right, they wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not improvising whole scenes on twenty four.
Speaker 2: But sometimes things weren't like word per or very occasionally
Speaker 2: sometimes you'd skip something and you like truncated something by accident,
Speaker 2: and they're like great.
Speaker 3: I mean, Keifer was somebody who really.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a testament to how to be a
Speaker 2: lead to the show because he was also very conscious
Speaker 2: of like the movement of the show. I mean, the
Speaker 2: directors and camera would do this, but he often would
Speaker 2: take the lead on like let's drop those two lines
Speaker 2: are expositional, you know, because sometimes from the writer's room
Speaker 2: to the floor, the writers are like, we have to
Speaker 2: say this.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, let's lose that one line and we're
Speaker 3: on the move.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be walking and I'm gonna be taking
Speaker 2: the thing as I'm saying it. So he was always
Speaker 2: a big proponent of like, how can we make this
Speaker 2: if any you know, his instincts of like if it
Speaker 2: feels like it's slow or not necessary, he and he
Speaker 2: had the instinct and the power and the talent to
Speaker 2: push that stuff through.
Speaker 1: Wow, what was it? I mean, what's he like? What's
Speaker 1: it like working with Keiper Siloly? You could be honest,
Speaker 1: no one will hear this. You can just tell me.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's amazing.
Speaker 2: It's probably what you would imagine. It's probably what you
Speaker 2: would imagine it's like working with him. He can be
Speaker 2: very intense because I think like anytime you see him
Speaker 2: speak in an interview, he's sort of you can see
Speaker 2: all the components that make up him. He's intense, he
Speaker 2: cares a lot, he wants it to be good. He
Speaker 2: has integrity, but he also can be goofy and sensitive
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 3: To play around.
Speaker 2: He also can be angry and passionate, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's all these things, which is what makes him a superstar.
Speaker 1: Now, this is something I like to ask people, and
Speaker 1: this is a hard question, but like you twenty four,
Speaker 1: you were such a big part of twenty four, so many,
Speaker 1: so many episode. I mean, as we said BEFO one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five episodes. Do you is there a
Speaker 1: memory like when you look back on your time on
Speaker 1: twenty four, is there a memory that like jumps out
Speaker 1: at you right away, like like like wow, I can't
Speaker 1: believe we did that, or like something you like to
Speaker 1: revisit when you think about twenty four, like your I
Speaker 1: don't want to say favorite memory, but like, is there
Speaker 1: something that happened during the show that just you you
Speaker 1: visit in your mind a lot. I'm most curious about that.
Speaker 2: I Mean, I don't really think about it that much anymore,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 3: I will say that coming out of twenty four it
Speaker 3: was a big adjustment.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure this is like this with anyone who's
Speaker 2: been on a substantial show for a long period of time.
Speaker 2: Is that it gets very hard to because there were
Speaker 2: many many things in my memory like that if I
Speaker 2: think about it now, because all the time on that show.
Speaker 3: We were in weird locations.
Speaker 2: Of course for me, I was indoor on the computer,
Speaker 2: but I but I have a lot of memories of
Speaker 2: hours and hours and hours that we would spend in
Speaker 2: that you know floor, on that floor and the counter
Speaker 2: terrorist unit, especially in those early days where it was
Speaker 2: so new to me, the pacing of a drama and
Speaker 2: the intensity of it, you know. So I have tons
Speaker 2: of memories of like little moments of having to deliver
Speaker 2: this exposition and we're in and we've got the screens
Speaker 2: and we're just having these serious talks.
Speaker 3: But then I also have many.
Speaker 2: Memories of action stuff of being you know, out on
Speaker 2: a dock with all these shipping containers or in just
Speaker 2: just like in weird, crazy locations.
Speaker 3: Like there was so much stuff about it. I was just.
Speaker 2: Uh memorable and intense, and you know, it was serious,
Speaker 2: but it also was it was fun because we all
Speaker 2: loved it and we were all crowd to be on it.
Speaker 3: You know, so there was an investment level.
Speaker 2: It was special in that way where sometimes it was
Speaker 2: hard and you got on each other's nerves, but everybody
Speaker 2: cared about the show, and everybody was proud of the show.
Speaker 1: It's such a It's one of those shows like that.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at all of television history,
Speaker 1: it really like I remember when it came out, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's going to be told in real time, like every
Speaker 1: episode it's an hour. I was like, oh, whoa, you
Speaker 1: can do this? Oh my god. And they started thinking
Speaker 1: about like what's going to be the most boring hour
Speaker 1: of the day for this one, Like is there going
Speaker 1: to be a part where everyone's just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: around eating lunch or something like that. Yeah, now we
Speaker 1: talk about like like Gilmore Girl's references twenty four, But
Speaker 1: also this happened in real life Project Chloe at the
Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. Do you know about this?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a program for drones to defend against infrared missiles.
Speaker 1: How did that feel when you found out that you
Speaker 1: were your character was named after a or there was
Speaker 1: a program named after your character.
Speaker 3: That was disturbing?
Speaker 1: Yes, crazy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Very bizarre. And the extent that like.
Speaker 2: People in the in the in the where that worked
Speaker 2: in the government were crazy about twenty four Like that
Speaker 2: I meant, I met a lot of people that had
Speaker 2: the equivalent of our job that were like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't things don't move that fast, you know. Actually at
Speaker 2: the time, it's like we don't have the technology to
Speaker 2: do even half the stuff, right, So it was fun
Speaker 2: but kind of disturbing to know that that was named Chloe. I.
Speaker 1: Mariy Lynn Rice Cub is with us. This is the
Speaker 1: Ice Smell Pop Culture Podcast. We're going to take one
Speaker 1: more quick break. We have more to get into. I
Speaker 1: have a question for you about your past, and we
Speaker 1: got to talk about your your new special road gig.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. Stick around everybody, We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: It is the Icewell Pop Culture Podcast. This is Easton
Speaker 1: Allen hanging out with mary Lynn Rice Cub. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: so confident in seeing your last name now I shout
Speaker 1: it from the rooftops. So I read that you worked
Speaker 1: at the movie theater inside the Beverly Center. Is that right?
Speaker 3: That is true? I also worked at the Hard Rock Cafe.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I worked at that movie theater and I
Speaker 2: was not good good research.
Speaker 3: I was not concession stand material, that is what I
Speaker 3: told me. So I got.
Speaker 2: Reduced to taking tickets because they didn't trust me at
Speaker 2: the concession stand to interact with the public.
Speaker 3: And more than just taking a ticket.
Speaker 1: I had the exact same experience.
Speaker 3: What do you mean.
Speaker 1: I worked in a movie theater too, and I worked
Speaker 1: my way to the concession stand. But I was that
Speaker 1: I had to take the tickets and clean the theaters
Speaker 1: and tell people like, uh oh, open water would be
Speaker 1: up to your right theater five.
Speaker 2: We both did that, Thank you cleaning the theaters. Who
Speaker 2: knew there was like a real hierarchy at the movie theater.
Speaker 1: Right, it was crazy like and then the people in
Speaker 1: the box office forget about it. Those were like untouchable.
Speaker 1: But did you ever find anything really weird when you're
Speaker 1: cleaning a theater or like, like, what was the craziest
Speaker 1: thing you found? If you can remember anything?
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything. I don't think that job lasted
Speaker 2: very long for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember eating some leftover candy. Wow, right, you know
Speaker 2: desperate times. Yeah, I get it, get candy and I
Speaker 2: needed it to get through that shift.
Speaker 1: I was jealous the people that worked in movie theaters
Speaker 1: inside a mall, because I'd like the one I worked
Speaker 1: at was in a shopping center. It wasn't the same.
Speaker 1: And I loved fast times at Ridgemont High and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like that kid, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: the girl at the pizza shop across the wall. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted that experience. But you have a new special out.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. It's called road Gig. You filmed it
Speaker 1: at Zanies. Tell us about this comedy special. What can
Speaker 1: people expect from that? Why should they watch it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really proud of this special. I talk
Speaker 2: a lot about I touch upon my career a little bit.
Speaker 2: I talk a little bit about twenty four I talk
Speaker 2: about being a parent, being a woman in the world.
Speaker 2: It's a little raunchy. It's I had one night to
Speaker 2: do it. One show. The audience did not know I
Speaker 2: was doing a special. Wow, so and it was a
Speaker 2: particularly they were a great audience, Like we really got rolling.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you watch this, you'll feel like you're.
Speaker 2: Hanging out with me, and you'll get to know me
Speaker 2: and get to know stories that you can like sit
Speaker 2: back and be like, Okay, that are you know, relatable
Speaker 2: and unique. But also the audience piped up to talk
Speaker 2: to me quite a lot, especially doing a taping.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be like, this is my special. In fact, within.
Speaker 2: The first minute there's a guy pointing at his friend
Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, like he.
Speaker 3: Has his hand raise I'm just starting.
Speaker 2: The show, like okay, yeah, and we left it all in.
Speaker 2: He goes she was on twenty four and so I
Speaker 2: had a whole conversation with this woman who worked a
Speaker 2: day on twenty four was killed, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I got you, like I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: You know, like, oh yeah, I'm gonna shout out.
Speaker 2: I'm like I am, like I do have a microphone,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you were on it for one day.
Speaker 2: I was on it for about eight years. May I
Speaker 2: please continue with my show now? But it was very
Speaker 2: and there were a lot of things that happened like
Speaker 2: that where I was interacting with the audience. But it's
Speaker 2: a very fun show. I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 1: Doing stand up, you get Heckler's you get you know,
Speaker 1: like or I don't know. There's a weird line between
Speaker 1: like someone like trying to be combative or like aggressive
Speaker 1: and then people who think they're like gonna be part
Speaker 1: like that's there's some many people who think that's how
Speaker 1: comedy shows work. Is like I'm gonna yell something at
Speaker 1: the stand up and they're gonna interact with me, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you handle that kind of thing, like when
Speaker 1: someone just starts yelling at you from the audience.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's many different ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's like a case by case thing,
Speaker 1: but like, do you like to kind of go back
Speaker 1: and forth with them? Do you want to shut it
Speaker 1: down right away? Is there something like you have an
Speaker 1: instinct to do?
Speaker 2: I think when I first started touring on the road,
Speaker 2: I probably and occasionally I'll be like, Oh.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get through. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: do my material.
Speaker 2: Like there are there are nights where I'm like frustrated
Speaker 2: because the audience is because it can take you in
Speaker 2: a different direction. But for the most part, I've accepted
Speaker 2: this and it just becomes part of the show.
Speaker 3: And most of the.
Speaker 2: Time people are nice and they don't realize that they're
Speaker 2: interrupting momentum or they're stepping on a punchline. But I'm
Speaker 2: to the point in doing this where it's just it
Speaker 2: just can be a free for all. And I really
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that because I don't invite that, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's almost like I've jumped the shark
Speaker 2: on hecklers, because I've dealt with so many hecklers. Like
Speaker 2: I just did a show in Arlington and I think
Speaker 2: I turned it back on. I was like, well, what
Speaker 2: did you whatever it was the topic they were piping
Speaker 2: up about.
Speaker 3: I ended up saying to this guy like, well, what
Speaker 3: did you do in the relationship?
Speaker 2: And the guy's like like he felt like he was
Speaker 2: put on the spot, and I was just laughing.
Speaker 3: I was like, we are all in support of you.
Speaker 2: We just started like, but now, like he left some
Speaker 2: like it was something about, you know, going through a
Speaker 2: divorce or a breakup where he said something juicy but
Speaker 2: he didn't say it, so I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, we have to know, and then he felt
Speaker 3: like put on the spot.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's it's to the point where I'm
Speaker 2: just none of it really even throws me in any way.
Speaker 2: I Mean, certainly there are nights where there's a momentum
Speaker 2: and I want to keep it going and I'll.
Speaker 3: Just be like blah blah blah, like shut it down
Speaker 3: with like a comment or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know that's the thing with live performance,
Speaker 2: it just goes where it goes.
Speaker 1: Do you have a do you have a favorite club
Speaker 1: across the country that you like look forward to playing.
Speaker 2: I mean, Zaniews is pretty fantastic, uh, legendary. I like
Speaker 2: performing in New York. I don't get the chance to
Speaker 2: do that very much.
Speaker 3: You know. I love the Comedy Store in LA.
Speaker 2: I love like most of the clubs in the La
Speaker 2: that the Improv and the Left Factory.
Speaker 3: I just did Tulsa Looney Bin.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic at the Dallas Comedy Club recently, so
Speaker 2: you know, it's discovering new clubs as well. The punchline
Speaker 2: is fantastic. Side Splitters Florida as a classic one for
Speaker 2: me that I revisit. You know, when I first started
Speaker 2: doing the Road, that was one of the first clubs.
Speaker 3: That I did.
Speaker 1: Well. If mary Lynn Risk is coming to your town,
Speaker 1: go see her, and if not, go to YouTube. Put
Speaker 1: this on the big screen. It's called road Gig. Watch
Speaker 1: this right now. Everybody turn off this podcast immediately before
Speaker 1: the more ads start playing. Go watch this video. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for doing this. You're so cool. We're
Speaker 1: such big fans of you. And thank you for being
Speaker 1: in a Kirk by a film by Kirk.
Speaker 3: Yes, we got to get we got it. We need
Speaker 3: the full movie. The fully film of Kirk, Film by Kirk.
Speaker 1: We need a theatrical release.
Speaker 3: Thank you, East and I really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You're just the absolute best. Thank you so much, Dotty everybody,
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