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Speaker 1: It's I Do Part two.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kelly Bensimone, one of your celebrity mentors here on

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're here at iHeart Verbo podcast House with.

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Speaker 2: My new friend Pamelin, and we're absolutely loving this Italian

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Speaker 1: Pamelin, what's your favorite part of the villa?

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Speaker 3: The view?

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Speaker 2: The view is fabulous, the view, the pool, the tennis,

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Speaker 2: the exercise room, all the bedrooms, all the space. Incredible, incredible.

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Speaker 2: We had so much fun, it's like stepping into a dream.

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Speaker 2: last time the listener's heard from us and we talked

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Speaker 2: all about the kind of things each of us are

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Speaker 2: looking for as a partner and what we don't want

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Speaker 2: and what we do want. Then we headed out to

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Speaker 2: Bottle Rock Show and we kind of had some goals

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Speaker 2: in mind. So let's recap, all right, did we find

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Speaker 2: anyone that was attractive? No?

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Speaker 1: Did we have fun? Yes?

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Speaker 3: But let's like bring it back. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: mean to say no so bluntly. I think it was

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Speaker 3: just a unique environment, right, Like we're there to like

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Speaker 3: enjoy this concert, and you know, Benson Boone and justin Timberlake,

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Speaker 3: and so when your focus is on something else and

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Speaker 3: you don't truly have the experience of being at Bottle Rock,

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Speaker 3: so it was a little bit kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: like trying to you know, like do one thing but

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Speaker 3: still experience another thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was so great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the music was unbelievable, the food was finale.

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Speaker 1: I think we tried absolutely everything now.

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Speaker 2: And then the wine people were like sitting there with

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Speaker 2: their crafts of like the most beautiful wine, and.

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Speaker 1: Just the vibe was so it was it was just great.

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Speaker 1: It was sophisticated. Everyone looked great.

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Speaker 3: It was just so I wasn't looking at men because

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Speaker 3: I was looking at all of these women just in

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Speaker 3: the moment of amazing outfits and so creative and yeah stylish.

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Speaker 3: So I really love that.

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Speaker 1: I know, it was really fun.

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Speaker 2: I tried to situate us right near like the food

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Speaker 2: court area, where like there was people had to go

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Speaker 2: to the bar and get the food, so I was like,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of traffic for people.

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Speaker 1: You get a for effort. I tried, you guys, it's

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Speaker 1: really fun.

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun. We had a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. So do you think there was any flirting

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Speaker 2: or no? No, okay, did you did you have to

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Speaker 2: use Do we have to use.

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Speaker 1: Any code words?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, we did not have to use Yes, we did

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Speaker 2: not have to use any code words. It was funny

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Speaker 2: because there was one guy that was like, oh, he's

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Speaker 2: really good looking. You're like no, So I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. So I remember the one that was the

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Speaker 2: Spanish guy. He was very good looking.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that one.

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Speaker 2: The guy when you were getting the sushi and he

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, don't leave now, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's my Spanish accent. And he was like he was like,

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Speaker 2: don't leave. I was like don't okay, and we were like,

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Speaker 2: you're not looking at each other and We're like, we're

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Speaker 2: not leaving. We're in the line to.

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Speaker 1: Get sushi, Like yeah he was yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I like, there were, you know, a bunch

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Speaker 3: that was you know what. I there was a lot

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of couples.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there was that the two guys that made but

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Speaker 2: not have been marketing their T shirt line, which I

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Speaker 1: I thought there.

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Speaker 2: I was really going in because I was like, remember

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Speaker 1: No, it was crickets.

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Speaker 2: They were like just trying to promote their T shirts

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Speaker 2: and I didn't understand. I was like, because I really

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Speaker 1: I was more interesting.

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Speaker 3: The last people that would be buying us drink. They

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Speaker 3: that they're making to promote themselves, like they that's their promotion,

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Speaker 3: that's their marketing budget.

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Speaker 1: I actually thought they don't have money. To buy us.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought the one woman that was wearing the

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Speaker 2: those really cool hands on, they would have been like,

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Speaker 2: what kind of wine do you want? Yeah, let's hang out,

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Speaker 2: let's you know, just chill out and listen to music.

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Speaker 3: Better chance of women buying us a drink. And those

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Speaker 3: two men, for sure, did we get a phone number?

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Speaker 1: No, we faiund We found miserably we had fail. We

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Speaker 1: would have just everything we were just like we weren't

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Speaker 1: good enough. We failed.

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Speaker 2: Definitive you know, just wasn't good enough means there's possibility

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I this like reminds me so much

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Speaker 3: Like we wouldn't remember one other person that was actually

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Speaker 3: so that's like the same thing that always happens to me,

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Speaker 3: And so it was like we were trying a little

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Speaker 3: which was sweet. But I think in real life, at

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Speaker 2: What I think was good is that, like because we

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Speaker 2: so much fun. Sure, I mean the two guys with

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Speaker 2: I tried to, like I tried to like wave at

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Speaker 1: Probably we danced. I mean I did the whole night.

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Speaker 1: We dance. We would a man, but I did the

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Speaker 1: whole night. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I took you into the pit or like walking through

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Speaker 1: You're really cool.

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Speaker 3: I think you're just like this just tall, just wonder

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Speaker 3: like walking through this crowd and they just like split

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Speaker 3: it was the most clear path ever.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go this way, let's go that way.

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Speaker 1: I was very it was warm in there too. It

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Speaker 1: was like it was very It was really we needed

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Speaker 2: Heat, we needed big sweatshirts. But you know what, we

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Speaker 2: had so much fun. I literally loved it. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we we really you know, we talked before that we're

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Speaker 2: not really attracted to the same kind of guys and

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Speaker 2: like you were like, I like suits, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is not a place for any suits. I think

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Speaker 2: one guy in tennis shorts on. They were bougie tennis shorts,

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Speaker 2: but I did not see one suit.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, it was definitely not the and

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean I love a guy too, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: Not have enlisted Tamara with some advice as to what

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Speaker 1: To She was like, what are you talking about about

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Speaker 2: Just in general, Like I'm just trying to get guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was I had a mission. I was

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Speaker 2: me laugh so hard. She was like telling it, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not how it works. She's like, I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: What does she want you to do?

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Speaker 1: She did, She did say she didn't give me advice.

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Speaker 1: She was just like, don't dance. I was like, should

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Speaker 1: I dance? She's like no, no, no, don't dance. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: She's in this gorgeous had this gorgeous dress and like

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you think we should do?

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Speaker 1: She was like, not what you're doing. I was glad, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, fun when you try too hard sometimes

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think we're naturally organic.

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Speaker 2: And we were in the car with the girls for vaccination,

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Speaker 2: like it was just because I was really like, I

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Speaker 2: just loved this morning when you were talking about like

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Speaker 1: You are just makes people feel good. Yeah. So like

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Speaker 1: when you're like, so what tonight? What made you feel happy?

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Speaker 3: Music makes me feel so happy, especially you know, music

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Speaker 3: that takes you back to like certain times. So Justin

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Speaker 3: Timberlake does that for I think so many people, especially

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Speaker 3: you know, in our like era. Yeah, so it was nostalgic,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's like eye blast music all day long.

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Speaker 3: It's my therapy. It's like anywhere from you know, Whitney

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Speaker 3: Houston to Teddy Swims, like all day long.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It takes your mind to a different place.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 2: So which one was your favorite? Did you like Justin

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Speaker 2: or did you like Benson better? Justin Timberlake or Benson Boone.

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Speaker 3: I saw Benson Boone already, like his full concert.

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Speaker 1: I took the girls. Oh so that was so fun.

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Speaker 1: We went to Nashville and.

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Speaker 3: I never saw Justin Timberlake perform until tonight, so I was, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was excited to see to see him probably more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just like iconic, you know.

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Speaker 1: Is that he's going to be there because he's going

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Speaker 2: And No, it just was like refreshing to hear, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know it's going to be great. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because it was like serendipitous to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so fun. It was so fun. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We need to hear more from Pamelin.

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Speaker 1: We need to know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you guys again like some

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would love to hear like you know what's

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Speaker 2: happening in Tennessee. So yay, thank you so so much

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you for having me, yay.

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Speaker 2: Having a Wingwoman has been so much fun. Are you

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Speaker 2: ready to date again, not having the best luck, tired

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