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He's 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.240 renowned actor, best known for his role as neighbor Chuck 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.680 Larabee on the long running comedy Last Man Standing opposite 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.600 Tim Allentt Tim Allen Boy, I gotta talk about him. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.679 The series is moving from ABC the Fox this fall 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.399 and premier to great ratings, which we will talk about. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.280 He began his acting career by studying theater at Carnegie 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.440 Mellon University and went on to appear as Henry Walker 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.600 on NBC's American Dreams as Dr Daniel Goodman on Bones. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.600 He has also made notable recurring appearances on Women's Murder Club, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.600 Revenge Castle Dollars twenty four in hell Cats, Please work 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.800 with the money making conversations, Jonathan Adams, Hey, how you doing? 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.120 Come on? You know I don't sound like that man. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.120 How are you just gonna just blow over that great voice? 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.880 You know, I'm gonna just a little scratch you trying 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.120 to get by voice? Hey? How you doing? How you 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.120 doing there? I'm very good? That good? Well. First of all, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:02.840 thank you for coming on my show. Thank you for 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.360 being the an entrepreneur, a guy who hasn't had a 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.040 career and he's having a career. And also, congratulations on 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:17.000 the amazingly high ratings for this series, uh that you're 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.359 starting on with Last Man Standing with Tim Allen's I know, right, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.760 I mean that was so good. I mean, I just 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.600 really really appreciate the fans of this show. I'm just 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.040 I'm just over the moon. It was really good. That's 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.000 why you know, you do something good, something bad shocks you, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:34.880 and then you get picked up. Let me just tell 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.800 you if everybody was happening with Last Man Standard, uh 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.440 for six years it was on ABC. Okay, it debated, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.800 It debated the seventh season on Fox Friday Night Friday 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.000 Night Now with Tim Allen. Let'sa come rocketing past this 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.320 previous season high numbers on ABC. Okay, ABC said we're 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.359 done with it, Last Man Standing averaging one point eight 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.519 ratings and adults which is the key demo eighteen to 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:01.160 forty nine and eight million viewers and at PM. By comparison, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.120 check this out. The season six premiere on ABC drew 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.680 at one point one rating and six million viewers. By 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.280 this season as a whole, on one point two rating 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.240 and six point four million viewers. In fact, the last 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.079 time the series drew over eight million viewers was back 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.720 in season four, and the last time I drew at 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.200 one point eight rating a better was in season two. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.520 It did both of those this past Friday. Hallelujah. Come 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.600 on now, I'm Jason Jonathan. I know how to put 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.520 the show together. Brother. I'm not gonna just bring you 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.720 on this show and not have my facts because because 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.000 you talked to Click, you talked to click. If you talk, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.240 if you if you talk me out, everybody gonna understand 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:46.960 what you said about me. Right those numbers numbers don't live. Brother, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.920 That's all I gotta say. And it was the most 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.800 watched comedy on any night in nearly seven years on 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.680 Fox excepting NFL nights, and was my father top rated 0:03:55.880 --> 0:04:00.680 comedy show on a Friday night. Congratulations, congratulations, so much time. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.760 I'm really happy to be a part of it. Well, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.840 you know, well how did you become a part of it? 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.600 Let's let's talk about you know I read earlier about 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.680 how you got started. Here's the deal about me. I 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.920 got started in stand up comedy, but my degree was 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.400 in mathematics. Okay, but you this is something you wanted 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.080 to do. Correct, dude, you sound like someone after my 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.800 own heart. I never met you. You had your degree 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.239 in mathematics. Math was my favorite subject in school. I nearly, 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.320 nearly like was a math major. Loved calculus. Calculus was 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.000 my favorite thing in the world when I was in 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:38.279 high school. UM loved it. And uh, I just got 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.960 into acting, just you know, through side sideways. And I 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:47.000 got into this show kind of sideways because Um, I 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:52.080 auditioned for a guest star in season two, and uh 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.880 that guest star they kept asking me back, and then 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.400 they cast me back again in season three, and then 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.279 and see and four they asked me to be a 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.200 regular on the show, which, by the way, it was 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.039 one of those seasons you mentioned with one of the 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.080 best ratings. So I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.719 you're nonimating conversation. You start, Okay, I don't care about 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.159 my boy Tim Allen. Who who I know Tim Allen 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.080 because when I was doing New Orleans Punch Bunch Line 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.560 he was the headliner. And that's when I met Tim 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.760 Allen way back then, and we performed the worst week 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.760 that you can perform in New Orleans to do stand 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.520 up comedy Martin, We're a week. Oh wow, why is 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.039 that the worst week? Because nobody's there there, there in 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.520 the streets, getting drunk there in the streets. Part you 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.839 do not pay this. Here's somebody tell jokes when you 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.760 can hear those same jokes free in the streets. Okay. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.320 So Tim and I go way back, and and I 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.920 know his career. I followed his career, and I feel 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.360 feel that he gave me excellent advice about being myself. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.520 And I was not just trying to be a middle 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.880 act when he was the headlining act. So I know 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.840 being around him, he's given you tremendous career advice. Tim 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.120 Hallen has correct absolutely, you know, Tim, Yeah, he really has. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.200 He's given me great advice in terms of my Crida 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.680 also has, uh, you know, kind of opened up my 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.240 eyes and you know, how you know comedy works and 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.160 how the you know, the business of comedy works. We 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.240 get to I get to work with not only Tim Allen, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.760 but you know Jay Leno occasionally, who is also a 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.960 comedy legend, and it's just like it's like a dream 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.880 sitting there with um, you know him and Hector Alisando 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.520 and Jay Leno I get to have scenes with those 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.239 guys like all the time, and these dudes are total legends, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.360 and I'm just sitting there soaking and I'm I mean, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.360 I'm not young, but I'm just soaking it all up 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.200 and like trying to trying to glean whatever I can 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.960 from these guys. Welle. The thing about it is that 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.280 because when you look at the show, you do see 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:53.080 prominent resumes acting resumes on the screen, you know, absolutely, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.120 And that's that's what I love about it. But also 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.240 I love the fact that it's it's there's a love 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.440 about it because you know, Hollywood, Hollywood, you can't really 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.080 make your car payment or your horse rent, or your 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.240 kids education on a on a on a television or 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.720 a film gig, you know, because you know, just because 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.120 it premiers or somebody said you've been picked up for 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.960 a show, that doesn't mean they're going to stay on 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.920 the air. Absolutely, that's the fear of Hollywood, because they're 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 don guarantees. And the fact that you've been on the 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.240 show there was four years roughly, and then all of 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:28.040 a sudden you get counseled. Walk me through that steps 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.440 of it being counseled and then it being picked up 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:36.360 talk about that, Okay, well we'll see. I really think 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.360 it was, like I said, it was a business decision. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.080 And you know, you got there's people online and people 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.680 you know, all over the place who want to say 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.560 it was a political decision. I think it was a 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.760 business decision on ABC's part in terms of the show 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.000 being Fox you know Fox Network, I mean Fox Studios 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.760 show and on an ABC on ABC, and so they 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.000 want you know, it streamlined your money and this very 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:06.320 very very tough television age where there's so much content 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.040 twent there and there's so much other things for people 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.760 to watching, people to seeing people to do. They needed 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.400 to they needed to, you know, like you said, Like 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:20.760 I said, streamline there you know their money, who who 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.000 makes it, and where it goes and how it comes from. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.640 You know, you get a double dip if it's an 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.600 ab STU ABC Studio show on ABC network as opposed 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.640 to having to take money out as it goes along. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.679 I think it was a business decision and I was, like, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.160 I was devastated personally about it. Did you see it? Comment? 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.599 Did you see it happening? Are you he was? It 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:45.440 might not get picked up, no, but I always suspect 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.839 that it will. Do you know what I mean, if 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.960 you've ever been on television, or if you've ever been 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:56.240 do you know I know that you know it's already 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.640 a rough business because as a writer, you know, they 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.200 bring us on board in June, we're wrapping February, so 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.200 you have to fend for yourself between between March two 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.240 to matt you know what I'm saying, right right right, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.240 get with your brother because you don't have a job. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.960 And so it's interesting. But to see that this is 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.560 a show, it's with stars, prominent stars all over it, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.440 and they get counseled and then what was one of 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.000 your what did I do next? I'm just trying to 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.600 get people understand that world that you're in because everybody 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.000 wants to be an actor. Everyone wants to come to Hollywood. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.080 Everybody wants to say, hey, I'm the next big thing. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.719 You know, you're an actor. We're gonna talk about later 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.600 about the flourishing varse over because I really think that's 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.319 the next level that everybody thinks they can do just 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.560 because they sound good, and that's not true. So so 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.160 so you're so you already got some multiple strings of 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.760 incomes out there, working for yourself, but this really is 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.720 one of your dominant income lanes here being on Last 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.640 man Standing, talk to us about to being counseled. What 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.440 did how did you react to it, and what were 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.599 your steps. Here's the thing I, my wife and I 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.000 have in through this before with some being Uh. I 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.240 was in the first season of Bones and Bones, as 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.800 you know, went on for nine seasons. I was not 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.200 expected to me that they would, you know, get rid 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.959 of my character and changes to somebody else. But we've 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.880 been through all this before. I was in American Dreams 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.440 Henry Walker on American Dreams, and that was canceled whatever. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.720 So at this point when we got Last man Standing 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.199 and it all started, uh, you know, really working out 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.679 for us, we made it, you know, our decision to like, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.160 you know, how most people need to have like you know, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.400 I don't know what what what do you tell people? 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.920 How much savings they should have? Like how much? How 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.120 long savings should they should have? Six months? Six months? 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.440 My wife and I said we need to have a 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:49.880 year and a half or two because this because my 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:55.960 business is not about you know, everything being consistent. It's 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.800 really it's it's feast or famine, and so what we needed. 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.920 You know, we need to store in case of famine 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.400 all the time. And that's how we feel about this business. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.560 So um, that's what we did. I mean we were 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.959 We want to explain to people why he goes to 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.040 a teen months because in Hollywood, you get paid and 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.400 I'd like to say chunks of money. Yeah, and so 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.200 so that chunks of money will can force you to 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.040 elevate your lifestyle and and then sometimes that's good, sometimes 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.960 it's bad because if the income goes away, then you stuck. Now, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.880 if you're live in a normal everyday life, tied to 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.480 a normal everyday check, then six months works for you. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.600 But if you if you have been married to that 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.960 chunks of lifestyle living, then you better kick out eighteen 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.959 months because so many reasons why you might not work 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.719 again in Hollywood for a long period of time. It's 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.640 tied to what they've seen you in this series. They 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.800 feel they might typecast you, they might because age discrimination, 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.719 they might not be looking for an African American male here. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.760 They might want them more characters. So it's a lot 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.200 of things that you have to really really start wrapping 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.680 your head around when you start making these these purchases 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.600 start making these decisions to move forward. I know that 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.880 because I did many sitcoms as a writer. Mini City 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.199 comes as a producer, and I also did a lot 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.640 of casting and all that comes into play, and those 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:24.120 decisions makes correct exactly. Man, you get, you get for 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.880 me I personally, I mean, I get burned once and 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.600 that's it. You know what I mean, you ain't gonna 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.520 burn me again, and that's I mean, that's how it works. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.559 With the first series I was on, and then after 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.680 that I was like, no, we need to have a 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.600 certain amount of money, and we need to have a 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:46.280 certain number of investments and a certain amount, you know, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:51.320 going forward, so that you know, I can we can live. Absolutely. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.160 You set a lifestyle and you want to maintain it, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.480 you can you maintain it. But here's the thing though, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.400 with with my word plot, Johnath think want to bring 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.440 you back on on the phone with Chuck Larrabie. He's 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.240 plays the characters Chuck larrab the long standing comedy last 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:11.120 Man standard. Right back more money making conversations. Hi, this 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.760 Rashwan mc. This is rash I just left. That is 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.200 out and I can't talk like that with Jonathan on 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.760 the phone. He's a vos over expert. So welcome to 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.280 money Making Conversation. I'm your host. You can hear me 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.679 live in Atlanta Charger every Monday on Busy Level eighty 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.920 and also can be heard on our heart radio podcast 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.599 Serious XM Channel one for the one h U R 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.920 Voices and Voices and on Series XM Channel one for 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.559 the two, which is on all HBCU campus. And always 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.480 tell people if you have Alexa just enabled money making 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.839 Conversation and I started delivering the good news about being 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.240 successful in the world of entertainment and entrepreneurship. My guest 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.320 who's on the phone is a renowned actor, best known 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.240 for his role as neighbor Chuck Larrabie on the long 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.480 running comedy Last Man Standing. Let me share some good 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.959 news about Last Man Standard It Got was canceled on 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.760 ABC after six seasons. It was counseled stars. I'm gonna 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.200 call hi my good friend. Now you know good friend 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.000 Tim Allen. Just upgrade my relationship with him. It debated 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.520 UH on Fox Friday this Friday night. It's seventh season 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.400 average one point eight rating an adults eighteen and four 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.360 to nine and eight million viewers airing at that a 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.760 PM time slot. By comparison, the season six premiere on 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.000 ABC drewing one point one rating in six million viewers 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.800 while they season while that season as a whole average 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.880 only at one point to rating in a six point 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.720 four million viewers. In fact, the last time the show 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.520 drew over eight million viewers was back in his fourth season. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.000 That's when he officially came on board being the person 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.400 on the end of the phone that's a Jonathan, And 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.400 the last time the show drew at one point eight 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.840 Rarely needs a Better was in season two. It was 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.440 also a Fox most watch comedy on any night in 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:51.160 nearly seven years, excluding Interfair nights, and was by far 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.120 the top rated show of all Friday nights. Please welcome 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.840 back to the show, Jonathan Adams. Hello, I delayed back 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.520 out there. Jonathan. You know I I know you got 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.040 a chopped liver. Brother, Thank you. I appreciate that. Now. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.000 One thing that you know my producer answered the phone. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:13.720 He said, wow, that guy has a smooth voice. Obviously 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.840 God gave you that voice. He gave a Sean his voice. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.560 You know you know you got the voice. How do 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.640 you keep your voice in shape? First of all? Or 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.560 do you do anything to sound the way you sound. Um. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:31.840 Actually no, But here's the thing though, I hate you 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.680 you more. You know, here's the I stopped smoking and drinking, 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:42.480 So I don't know that years ago, right, Yeah, no, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.960 I you know, it's just that, I mean, I don't know. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.320 People are born with what you know. People get what 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.760 they get. You know, when you get, don't get upset 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.840 and then deal with it. Right. But here's the thing 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.080 about it. You're a voice over business correct, Yeah, very 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.880 good at it, so as and entertain a business manager 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.800 represented talent. All my life, people are always coming up 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.200 to me talking about they want to be in a 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 voice over business. I get two things coming to bed. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.960 What somebody wants to be in the music business or 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.120 they want to act or they want to do voice over. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.120 Is there a plan or there is there a way 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.960 that a person could break into the business as a 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.840 voiceover artist. You gotta keep working at it. It really 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:31.120 is one of those places of especially voiceover, that people 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.760 people end up hiring who they like and who they 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.960 worked with before, and voices they know. And it's a 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.040 very difficult business to break into. And it's one of 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.760 those things where you have to keep plugging at it. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.560 You can't stop because what you mean if you they 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.360 I spent you know me, you mean you you heard 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:59.120 my voice. I spent six months a year just auditioning. No, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.960 maybe even longer than that, maybe like a year and 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.240 a half before I got anything of any substance, you 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:10.840 know what I mean? And uh, you you have to 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.959 keep keep working at it. And I would also even 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.879 suggest taking a few workshops, because it's not really necessarily 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:27.320 about um uh, the the the the education that you're 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.359 gonna get from the workshop. It's sometimes it's about the 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.520 connections you're gonna get from the people at the workshop. Oh, 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.520 I was in a workshop with so and so, I 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.440 was in a workshop with whatever, and blah blah blah 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.359 blah blah blah blah blah, and um, I remember you 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.280 from this, that and the other thing, and it becomes 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.200 you become part of the community, which is really what 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.840 you need to be. Right. So let me ask you this. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.600 Do you have an agent? Yes? I do, Yeah, I 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.520 do have an agent. I have a voiceover agent, uh 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.800 and in my voiceover and commercial agent, and I have 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:01.280 a manager for theatrical and everything. Okay, So just going 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.960 through the stick with the track about to be a 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.359 VARs over because like I said, it always gets asked 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.280 to be and you know, I'm a guy who has 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.640 produced talent voice over. I don't know where to sen 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.600 you what like you you caseuper limited tested. First of all, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.320 is that gonna happen overnight? And like you said, look 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.760 at the quality of listen to the quality of mab vos. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:22.879 It wasn't like I just walked to the room and 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.399 just they signed me up. It's tied to relationships and 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:31.200 also position yourself where people can recommend you exactly you 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.879 got it exactly right. And so that's that's what you 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.200 gotta do and you can't and and it's very frustrating. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.880 It is. It's a frustrating business. You spend a lot 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.120 of time going, oh man, I'm just this is never 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.679 gonna wear or you sent me out on that I 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:54.600 don't know. And I have a um, I have a 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.280 booth in my house now basically where I not. I 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:02.119 don't work from it, but I do have I do 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:07.120 all my auditions from that booth. So uh, if someone 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.200 I'll get a script from my agent and i'll i'll 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.199 you know, read it to my do it on do 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.560 it in the booth in my house and then send 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.080 it out to the MP three to my back to 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.080 my agent and they take it, they send it to 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.200 the clients. Ask you this other because it's a very 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.800 serious question here because uh, you know, I'm connected as 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.520 you know, and so how would I want in our 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:36.359 opportunities for some of the military type commercial promotions around 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.400 the country. How would I get you to not only 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.879 just maybe not even just audition, but just recopy so 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.040 I can present it to them. Um, you would call 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.840 my agent what you do, or you could even start 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.120 with my publicist, which which you guys have, and they'll 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.240 get in touch with you. You know. This is what 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.760 we're gonna do today. You'll be here from Roshan McDonald today. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.240 Just this eye works on money main conversation. So you 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.080 call for an interview, you're call for you're about to 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.119 hear the change change in your life now because of 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.439 a Sean McDonald but black. But like I said, you 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.560 know the thing about it. But that's how opportunities come 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.840 your way. That's what I'm saying. And that's what people 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.160 need to understand. It's not ever plan, it's never, it's never, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.679 but you gotta be ready. Like you said, you have 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.600 a booth in your house, that's what Maybe I heard that. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.840 Let me said, you're making a job out of this. 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.200 So if you if you didn't say that, then I 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.440 don't I don't go to this next conversation about hey, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.119 if I send you some copy, can you cut something 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:37.760 for me so we can I can let some people 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.320 here and recommend you for this. So what what? What? 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.800 What presented that idea? What? What made you invest in 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.000 yourself like that to put a booth in they call 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.840 it loop and you can look things in your house 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.200 and the sound proof room. Talk about that, let people here. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.800 How you have to invest in your career for opportunities 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.560 that you may they even see coming right right right, Well, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:05.720 you know you said it exactly correctly. You know you 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.320 have to you present yourself. You you put yourself out 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.040 there for opportunities. You're not you're not sure you're gonna happen. 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.320 But I had actually been working as a voice over 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:20.480 actor a great deal, and my my I moved out 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.920 to I moved like out of town a little bit, 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.640 Like I'm forty five minutes from downtown where I live 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.240 right now, and so it gets really hard to get 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.200 to my agent's office and I thought, you know what, 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.919 since I moved out here, I need to have the 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.760 ability to to send stuff in via MP three and 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.159