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He's 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: renowned actor, best known for his role as neighbor Chuck 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Larabee on the long running comedy Last Man Standing opposite 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Tim Allentt Tim Allen Boy, I gotta talk about him. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: The series is moving from ABC the Fox this fall 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: and premier to great ratings, which we will talk about. 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: He began his acting career by studying theater at Carnegie 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Mellon University and went on to appear as Henry Walker 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: on NBC's American Dreams as Dr Daniel Goodman on Bones. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: He has also made notable recurring appearances on Women's Murder Club, 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Revenge Castle Dollars twenty four in hell Cats, Please work 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: with the money making conversations, Jonathan Adams, Hey, how you doing? 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Come on? You know I don't sound like that man. 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: How are you just gonna just blow over that great voice? 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna just a little scratch you trying 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: to get by voice? Hey? How you doing? How you 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: doing there? I'm very good? That good? Well. First of all, 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. Thank you for 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: being the an entrepreneur, a guy who hasn't had a 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: career and he's having a career. And also, congratulations on 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: the amazingly high ratings for this series, uh that you're 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: starting on with Last Man Standing with Tim Allen's I know, right, 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean that was so good. I mean, I just 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: really really appreciate the fans of this show. I'm just 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm just over the moon. It was really good. That's 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: why you know, you do something good, something bad shocks you, 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and then you get picked up. Let me just tell 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: you if everybody was happening with Last Man Standard, uh 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: for six years it was on ABC. Okay, it debated, 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: It debated the seventh season on Fox Friday Night Friday 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Night Now with Tim Allen. Let'sa come rocketing past this 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: previous season high numbers on ABC. Okay, ABC said we're 53 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: done with it, Last Man Standing averaging one point eight 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: ratings and adults which is the key demo eighteen to 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: forty nine and eight million viewers and at PM. By comparison, 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: check this out. The season six premiere on ABC drew 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: at one point one rating and six million viewers. By 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: this season as a whole, on one point two rating 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: and six point four million viewers. In fact, the last 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: time the series drew over eight million viewers was back 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: in season four, and the last time I drew at 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: one point eight rating a better was in season two. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: It did both of those this past Friday. Hallelujah. Come 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: on now, I'm Jason Jonathan. I know how to put 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: the show together. Brother. I'm not gonna just bring you 66 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: on this show and not have my facts because because 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: you talked to Click, you talked to click. If you talk, 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: if you if you talk me out, everybody gonna understand 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: what you said about me. Right those numbers numbers don't live. Brother, 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. And it was the most 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: watched comedy on any night in nearly seven years on 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Fox excepting NFL nights, and was my father top rated 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: comedy show on a Friday night. Congratulations, congratulations, so much time. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm really happy to be a part of it. Well, 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, well how did you become a part of it? 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about you know I read earlier about 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: how you got started. Here's the deal about me. I 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: got started in stand up comedy, but my degree was 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: in mathematics. Okay, but you this is something you wanted 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: to do. Correct, dude, you sound like someone after my 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: own heart. I never met you. You had your degree 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: in mathematics. Math was my favorite subject in school. I nearly, 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: nearly like was a math major. Loved calculus. Calculus was 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the world when I was in 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: high school. UM loved it. And uh, I just got 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: into acting, just you know, through side sideways. And I 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: got into this show kind of sideways because Um, I 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: auditioned for a guest star in season two, and uh 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: that guest star they kept asking me back, and then 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: they cast me back again in season three, and then 91 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: and see and four they asked me to be a 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: regular on the show, which, by the way, it was 93 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: one of those seasons you mentioned with one of the 94 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: best ratings. So I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no, no, 95 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: you're nonimating conversation. You start, Okay, I don't care about 96 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: my boy Tim Allen. Who who I know Tim Allen 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: because when I was doing New Orleans Punch Bunch Line 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: he was the headliner. And that's when I met Tim 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: Allen way back then, and we performed the worst week 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: that you can perform in New Orleans to do stand 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: up comedy Martin, We're a week. Oh wow, why is 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: that the worst week? Because nobody's there there, there in 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the streets, getting drunk there in the streets. Part you 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: do not pay this. Here's somebody tell jokes when you 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: can hear those same jokes free in the streets. Okay. 106 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: So Tim and I go way back, and and I 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: know his career. I followed his career, and I feel 108 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: feel that he gave me excellent advice about being myself. 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: And I was not just trying to be a middle 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: act when he was the headlining act. So I know 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: being around him, he's given you tremendous career advice. Tim 112 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Hallen has correct absolutely, you know, Tim, Yeah, he really has. 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: He's given me great advice in terms of my Crida 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: also has, uh, you know, kind of opened up my 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: eyes and you know, how you know comedy works and 116 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: how the you know, the business of comedy works. We 117 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: get to I get to work with not only Tim Allen, 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: but you know Jay Leno occasionally, who is also a 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: comedy legend, and it's just like it's like a dream 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: sitting there with um, you know him and Hector Alisando 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and Jay Leno I get to have scenes with those 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: guys like all the time, and these dudes are total legends, 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: and I'm just sitting there soaking and I'm I mean, 124 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm not young, but I'm just soaking it all up 125 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and like trying to trying to glean whatever I can 126 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: from these guys. Welle. The thing about it is that 127 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: because when you look at the show, you do see 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: prominent resumes acting resumes on the screen, you know, absolutely, 129 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I love about it. But also 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I love the fact that it's it's there's a love 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: about it because you know, Hollywood, Hollywood, you can't really 132 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: make your car payment or your horse rent, or your 133 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: kids education on a on a on a television or 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: a film gig, you know, because you know, just because 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: it premiers or somebody said you've been picked up for 136 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: a show, that doesn't mean they're going to stay on 137 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the air. Absolutely, that's the fear of Hollywood, because they're 138 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: don guarantees. And the fact that you've been on the 139 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: show there was four years roughly, and then all of 140 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: a sudden you get counseled. Walk me through that steps 141 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: of it being counseled and then it being picked up 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: talk about that, Okay, well we'll see. I really think 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it was, like I said, it was a business decision. 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: And you know, you got there's people online and people 145 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, all over the place who want to say 146 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: it was a political decision. I think it was a 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: business decision on ABC's part in terms of the show 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: being Fox you know Fox Network, I mean Fox Studios 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: show and on an ABC on ABC, and so they 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: want you know, it streamlined your money and this very 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: very very tough television age where there's so much content 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: twent there and there's so much other things for people 153 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: to watching, people to seeing people to do. They needed 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: to they needed to, you know, like you said, Like 155 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I said, streamline there you know their money, who who 156 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: makes it, and where it goes and how it comes from. 157 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, you get a double dip if it's an 158 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: ab STU ABC Studio show on ABC network as opposed 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: to having to take money out as it goes along. 160 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I think it was a business decision and I was, like, 161 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I was devastated personally about it. Did you see it? Comment? 162 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: Did you see it happening? Are you he was? It 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: might not get picked up, no, but I always suspect 164 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: that it will. Do you know what I mean, if 165 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: you've ever been on television, or if you've ever been 166 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: do you know I know that you know it's already 167 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: a rough business because as a writer, you know, they 168 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: bring us on board in June, we're wrapping February, so 169 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: you have to fend for yourself between between March two 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: to matt you know what I'm saying, right right right, 171 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: get with your brother because you don't have a job. 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: And so it's interesting. But to see that this is 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: a show, it's with stars, prominent stars all over it, 174 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: and they get counseled and then what was one of 175 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: your what did I do next? I'm just trying to 176 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: get people understand that world that you're in because everybody 177 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: wants to be an actor. Everyone wants to come to Hollywood. 178 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to say, hey, I'm the next big thing. 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: You know, you're an actor. We're gonna talk about later 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: about the flourishing varse over because I really think that's 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: the next level that everybody thinks they can do just 182 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: because they sound good, and that's not true. So so 183 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: so you're so you already got some multiple strings of 184 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: incomes out there, working for yourself, but this really is 185 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: one of your dominant income lanes here being on Last 186 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: man Standing, talk to us about to being counseled. What 187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: did how did you react to it, and what were 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: your steps. Here's the thing I, my wife and I 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: have in through this before with some being Uh. I 190 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: was in the first season of Bones and Bones, as 191 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, went on for nine seasons. I was not 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: expected to me that they would, you know, get rid 193 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: of my character and changes to somebody else. But we've 194 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: been through all this before. I was in American Dreams 195 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Henry Walker on American Dreams, and that was canceled whatever. 196 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: So at this point when we got Last man Standing 197 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: and it all started, uh, you know, really working out 198 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: for us, we made it, you know, our decision to like, 199 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, how most people need to have like you know, 200 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what what what do you tell people? 201 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: How much savings they should have? Like how much? How 202 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: long savings should they should have? Six months? Six months? 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: My wife and I said we need to have a 204 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: year and a half or two because this because my 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: business is not about you know, everything being consistent. It's 206 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: really it's it's feast or famine, and so what we needed. 207 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, we need to store in case of famine 208 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: all the time. And that's how we feel about this business. 209 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: So um, that's what we did. I mean we were 210 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: We want to explain to people why he goes to 211 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: a teen months because in Hollywood, you get paid and 212 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to say chunks of money. Yeah, and so 213 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: so that chunks of money will can force you to 214 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: elevate your lifestyle and and then sometimes that's good, sometimes 215 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: it's bad because if the income goes away, then you stuck. Now, 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: if you're live in a normal everyday life, tied to 217 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: a normal everyday check, then six months works for you. 218 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: But if you if you have been married to that 219 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: chunks of lifestyle living, then you better kick out eighteen 220 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: months because so many reasons why you might not work 221 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: again in Hollywood for a long period of time. It's 222 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: tied to what they've seen you in this series. They 223 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: feel they might typecast you, they might because age discrimination, 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: they might not be looking for an African American male here. 225 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: They might want them more characters. So it's a lot 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: of things that you have to really really start wrapping 227 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: your head around when you start making these these purchases 228 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: start making these decisions to move forward. I know that 229 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: because I did many sitcoms as a writer. Mini City 230 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: comes as a producer, and I also did a lot 231 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: of casting and all that comes into play, and those 232 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: decisions makes correct exactly. Man, you get, you get for 233 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: me I personally, I mean, I get burned once and 234 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: that's it. You know what I mean, you ain't gonna 235 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: burn me again, and that's I mean, that's how it works. 236 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: With the first series I was on, and then after 237 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: that I was like, no, we need to have a 238 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: certain amount of money, and we need to have a 239 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: certain number of investments and a certain amount, you know, 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: going forward, so that you know, I can we can live. Absolutely. 241 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: You set a lifestyle and you want to maintain it, 242 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: you can you maintain it. But here's the thing though, 243 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: with with my word plot, Johnath think want to bring 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: you back on on the phone with Chuck Larrabie. He's 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: plays the characters Chuck larrab the long standing comedy last 246 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Man standard. Right back more money making conversations. Hi, this 247 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Rashwan mc. This is rash I just left. That is 248 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: out and I can't talk like that with Jonathan on 249 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: the phone. He's a vos over expert. So welcome to 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. I'm your host. 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My guest 259 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: who's on the phone is a renowned actor, best known 260 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: for his role as neighbor Chuck Larrabie on the long 261 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: running comedy Last Man Standing. Let me share some good 262 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: news about Last Man Standard It Got was canceled on 263 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: ABC after six seasons. It was counseled stars. I'm gonna 264 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: call hi my good friend. Now you know good friend 265 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Tim Allen. Just upgrade my relationship with him. It debated 266 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: UH on Fox Friday this Friday night. It's seventh season 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: average one point eight rating an adults eighteen and four 268 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: to nine and eight million viewers airing at that a 269 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: PM time slot. By comparison, the season six premiere on 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: ABC drewing one point one rating in six million viewers 271 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: while they season while that season as a whole average 272 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: only at one point to rating in a six point 273 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: four million viewers. In fact, the last time the show 274 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: drew over eight million viewers was back in his fourth season. 275 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: That's when he officially came on board being the person 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: on the end of the phone that's a Jonathan, And 277 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: the last time the show drew at one point eight 278 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Rarely needs a Better was in season two. It was 279 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: also a Fox most watch comedy on any night in 280 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: nearly seven years, excluding Interfair nights, and was by far 281 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: the top rated show of all Friday nights. Please welcome 282 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: back to the show, Jonathan Adams. Hello, I delayed back 283 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: out there. Jonathan. You know I I know you got 284 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: a chopped liver. Brother, Thank you. I appreciate that. Now. 285 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: One thing that you know my producer answered the phone. 286 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: He said, wow, that guy has a smooth voice. Obviously 287 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: God gave you that voice. He gave a Sean his voice. 288 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: You know you know you got the voice. How do 289 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: you keep your voice in shape? First of all? Or 290 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: do you do anything to sound the way you sound. Um. 291 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Actually no, But here's the thing though, I hate you 292 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: you more. You know, here's the I stopped smoking and drinking, 293 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: So I don't know that years ago, right, Yeah, no, 294 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I you know, it's just that, I mean, I don't know. 295 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: People are born with what you know. People get what 296 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: they get. You know, when you get, don't get upset 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: and then deal with it. Right. But here's the thing 298 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: about it. You're a voice over business correct, Yeah, very 299 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: good at it, so as and entertain a business manager 300 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: represented talent. All my life, people are always coming up 301 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: to me talking about they want to be in a 302 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: voice over business. I get two things coming to bed. 303 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: What somebody wants to be in the music business or 304 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: they want to act or they want to do voice over. 305 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Is there a plan or there is there a way 306 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: that a person could break into the business as a 307 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: voiceover artist. You gotta keep working at it. It really 308 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: is one of those places of especially voiceover, that people 309 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: people end up hiring who they like and who they 310 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: worked with before, and voices they know. And it's a 311 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: very difficult business to break into. And it's one of 312 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: those things where you have to keep plugging at it. 313 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: You can't stop because what you mean if you they 314 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: I spent you know me, you mean you you heard 315 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: my voice. I spent six months a year just auditioning. No, 316 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe even longer than that, maybe like a year and 317 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: a half before I got anything of any substance, you 318 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And uh, you you have to 319 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: keep keep working at it. And I would also even 320 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: suggest taking a few workshops, because it's not really necessarily 321 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: about um uh, the the the the education that you're 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: gonna get from the workshop. It's sometimes it's about the 323 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: connections you're gonna get from the people at the workshop. Oh, 324 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: I was in a workshop with so and so, I 325 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: was in a workshop with whatever, and blah blah blah 326 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and um, I remember you 327 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: from this, that and the other thing, and it becomes 328 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: you become part of the community, which is really what 329 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: you need to be. Right. So let me ask you this. 330 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Do you have an agent? Yes? I do, Yeah, I 331 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: do have an agent. I have a voiceover agent, uh 332 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: and in my voiceover and commercial agent, and I have 333 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: a manager for theatrical and everything. Okay, So just going 334 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: through the stick with the track about to be a 335 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: VARs over because like I said, it always gets asked 336 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: to be and you know, I'm a guy who has 337 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: produced talent voice over. I don't know where to sen 338 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: you what like you you caseuper limited tested. First of all, 339 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: is that gonna happen overnight? And like you said, look 340 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: at the quality of listen to the quality of mab vos. 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't like I just walked to the room and 342 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: just they signed me up. It's tied to relationships and 343 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: also position yourself where people can recommend you exactly you 344 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: got it exactly right. And so that's that's what you 345 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: gotta do and you can't and and it's very frustrating. 346 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: It is. It's a frustrating business. You spend a lot 347 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: of time going, oh man, I'm just this is never 348 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: gonna wear or you sent me out on that I 349 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: don't know. And I have a um, I have a 350 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: booth in my house now basically where I not. I 351 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: don't work from it, but I do have I do 352 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: all my auditions from that booth. So uh, if someone 353 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I'll get a script from my agent and i'll i'll 354 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, read it to my do it on do 355 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: it in the booth in my house and then send 356 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: it out to the MP three to my back to 357 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: my agent and they take it, they send it to 358 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the clients. Ask you this other because it's a very 359 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: serious question here because uh, you know, I'm connected as 360 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, and so how would I want in our 361 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: opportunities for some of the military type commercial promotions around 362 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: the country. How would I get you to not only 363 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: just maybe not even just audition, but just recopy so 364 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: I can present it to them. Um, you would call 365 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: my agent what you do, or you could even start 366 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: with my publicist, which which you guys have, and they'll 367 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: get in touch with you. You know. This is what 368 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna do today. You'll be here from Roshan McDonald today. 369 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Just this eye works on money main conversation. So you 370 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: call for an interview, you're call for you're about to 371 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: hear the change change in your life now because of 372 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: a Sean McDonald but black. But like I said, you 373 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: know the thing about it. But that's how opportunities come 374 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: your way. That's what I'm saying. And that's what people 375 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: need to understand. It's not ever plan, it's never, it's never, 376 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: but you gotta be ready. Like you said, you have 377 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: a booth in your house, that's what Maybe I heard that. 378 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Let me said, you're making a job out of this. 379 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: So if you if you didn't say that, then I 380 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: don't I don't go to this next conversation about hey, 381 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: if I send you some copy, can you cut something 382 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: for me so we can I can let some people 383 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: here and recommend you for this. So what what? What? 384 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: What presented that idea? What? What made you invest in 385 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: yourself like that to put a booth in they call 386 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: it loop and you can look things in your house 387 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: and the sound proof room. Talk about that, let people here. 388 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: How you have to invest in your career for opportunities 389 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: that you may they even see coming right right right, Well, 390 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: you know you said it exactly correctly. You know you 391 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: have to you present yourself. You you put yourself out 392 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: there for opportunities. You're not you're not sure you're gonna happen. 393 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: But I had actually been working as a voice over 394 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: actor a great deal, and my my I moved out 395 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: to I moved like out of town a little bit, 396 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm forty five minutes from downtown where I live 397 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: right now, and so it gets really hard to get 398 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: to my agent's office and I thought, you know what, 399 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: since I moved out here, I need to have the 400 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: ability to to send stuff in via MP three and 401 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: not have to to slep all the way down to 402 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: UH down to Hollywood to um to get my to 403 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: get my auditions in and just you know, they send 404 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: me stuff and it and it works. And but you 405 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: do have to invest in a good microphone and a 406 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: good set up in some places where and find a 407 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: place that's quiet in your house and make sure that 408 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: that place stays quiet and then sound proofn blah blah 409 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, bah blah blah blah. So yeah, 410 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it became a necessity for me because of hers. First 411 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: of all, because my location, but also it's a business move. 412 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: But before we go, I want to talk about a 413 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: balanced life. You're a native of Pittsburgh, your happy mare, 414 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: and you have two beautiful daughters. How have you been 415 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: able to balance all that over the years? You know, 416 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: because like I said, there have been peaks and valleys 417 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of uncertainty and you still have 418 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: you happily married and you have two beautiful daughters. How 419 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: have you been able to balance that? I've been married 420 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: for twenty five years and uh, you know, yeah, I Uh, 421 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: I was gonna say blame, but I really, you know, 422 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: like my wife is the one who really helps me 423 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: out there. She'll she'll you know, she'll get me there, 424 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: she'll get me going, She'll get me understanding that you know, 425 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: we need to take a vacation and we need to 426 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: do this, and we need to do that. And you know, 427 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: I just say yes year because she's almost n right, 428 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: So you know it's uh, it's you know, it's all 429 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: about her, and I really try and keep that, keep 430 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: that relationship going. You know, twenty five years is a 431 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: long time, especially in Hollywood. That's like that's like seventy 432 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: five years after the world. You know, I want to say, 433 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: I want to follow up on that because Hollywood, unlike 434 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: any other business, is driven on fear because you know, 435 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: you just never know when you might miss. It kind 436 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: of holds you hostage because you leave town, you you 437 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: feel you might miss an audition, you know, relationship or 438 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: being somewhere. So you always on that little rabbit, that 439 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: little rabbit trail, that little rabbit trail for opportunities and 440 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: then leading that and I did that. I'm willing to 441 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: tell anybody. I did that far too long, but a 442 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: lot of success came out way, don't get me wrong. 443 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: But I also know that I could have done it differently. 444 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: I could. I could have done it different I could 445 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: have slowed down. I could have I could have believed 446 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: in myself a lot more, in the in the in 447 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the places that put in place a lot more. And 448 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: I congratulate you, my friend. Uh, I hope that you. 449 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: We will be hearing from my own my representatives about that. 450 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I was very sincere about that audition opportunity because I 451 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: am that type of person that have opportunities for people 452 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: of certain talents, and I created money making conversations to 453 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: bring to the world your type of talents. And you're 454 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: respectfully saying, do you keep winning, my friend, keep doing 455 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: any things that you're doing. Bless you, brother, Thank you 456 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it. You need to check out 457 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the wireless earbuds from Recon. 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