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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: And we continue now with part two of our conversation

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Speaker 1: with Meek and Tracy Taylor, right after these brief messages

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Speaker 1: from our general sponsors. So occasionally, not slavery, I'm not

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Speaker 1: suggesting anything about what I'm about to say, but occasionally,

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Speaker 1: going back to the fifties, sixties, seventies, occasionally there really

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Speaker 1: were places that these domestics and the families became very,

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of it, though, was work. Yes, that's it.

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Speaker 1: It was work. Okay. So, with that mentality that is

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so baked into our cultural experiences, all of

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Speaker 1: this history. How does David No, Okay, So we're going

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Speaker 1: to go to twenty fifteen. So with all of that,

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Speaker 2: Hadn't been in our home, not even David. He hadn't

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Speaker 3: I needed diapers and I needed milk. My husband was

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Speaker 3: still at work, so I packed him up. We went

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Speaker 3: in this little old white gentleman has been in this

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Speaker 3: late seventies, early eighties. You must have paid a pretty

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Speaker 3: penny for him, is what he said to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it took everything in me not to rise up

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Speaker 3: the gree black woman. But you know, I built this

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Speaker 1: And what did you even respond?

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Speaker 2: I did not, because you're not worth mine.

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Speaker 3: You're eighty, You're stuck in your waist. I don't have

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Speaker 1: Why did he mean it? And I mean this. You

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Speaker 2: But being new to this fresh I hadn't been a

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Speaker 2: But I thought it was just best just to walk away.

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Speaker 1: This is my house, my house, and you can now

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Speaker 4: Reassess what normal is like, especially in America, like we

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Speaker 3: But he came in and we thought we were done

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Speaker 1: And again his rights were giving up, fostered rights given.

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Speaker 1: The process of adopting. It was easier because he was black.

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Speaker 4: It was so cool, opposed to where with David it

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Speaker 1: Uh, even though it was because it was we we

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Speaker 3: We are very certain that it had a lot to

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Speaker 1: Oh, they kept yes, and then we say no, stone,

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Speaker 2: No looking for any family.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for anybody might take this kid, Let's send

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Speaker 1: We're friends that we do.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And we had a friend that adopted a black child.

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Speaker 1: Well did they go looking for a black family? Especially difficulty.

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Speaker 3: There's always the process where you have to look for

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Speaker 3: But there's also a timeline within thirty days, I believe.

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Speaker 3: Then it was within thirty days they have to come forward,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was just like, but when we got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had been placed in a foster home. The

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Speaker 3: to take him in as well?

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Speaker 3: He's a little strawberry blonde kid. Oh man, you yeah,

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Speaker 2: We prepared our children.

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Speaker 3: We prepared them, and luckily I work in the school

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Speaker 4: I went to the zoo with dealing with his class,

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00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: and one of his friends, uh walked up to me

445
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: and said, Dylan, Dylan is just your dad, and Uh,

446
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 4: Dylan was like, yeah, how's your dad brown?

447
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: And your.

448
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: Question a question, that's a fair question, right right, right.

449
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: So so I've gotten that a lot, you know, with

450
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 4: the kids, But for me, it's it's hilarious to me,

451
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: you know.

452
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: So from the kids that is actually almost endearing. Yeah

453
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: to me, I love it.

454
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: It's hilarious to me from the parents as well, you know,

455
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: from the from the older people, not just being but

456
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: the older people, but not endearing, you know what.

457
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Again, you know, I like to embrace opportunities.

458
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with a conversation, you know,

459
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: because I feel like some conversations need to be had,

460
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: because if you're.

461
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: God is love and we.

462
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: Can't keep love in a box. We can't keep God

463
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: in a box. And I think sometimes that's what we do.

464
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: We keep them in our little boxes. We think that hey,

465
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: once we can't go outside of this little square, you know,

466
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: because if we go outside this little square, things start

467
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: to give a little cloudy, you know. So I want

468
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: people to stop putting love in a box. You know

469
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 4: that you can love anybody in any position that you're in.

470
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: Rather that be a parent, rather that be a guardian,

471
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: Rather it be adoptive, rather it be biological.

472
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Just love people, you know, Just love people and allow.

473
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: The opportunity for someone to love someone that looks like you,

474
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: even if they even if the person is doing the loving,

475
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: don't look like you. Just allow them to do that,

476
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think that's hard to do.

477
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. I think it's only fair. We're

478
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: not going to end on this, but we're at the

479
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: tail end of it. We're gonna end on something really cool.

480
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: But how does it come from black folks to you?

481
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Because that's from a whole different place that their questions

482
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: come from. Well, and it's only fair to ask that question. Yes,

483
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely.

484
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: I'll put it like this.

485
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: We have had, or I mentioned to my husband when

486
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: we brought David home, family members who.

487
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Gave me the cold shoulder.

488
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: You can tell they didn't approve.

489
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: They did not approve. And this is I mean, you

490
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: shake your head, but These are family members who endured

491
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, we're in the South. They do

492
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: it a little lot.

493
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Shaking my head to be clear, I'm shaking my head

494
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: because I feel that deeply for you. Yeah, just so

495
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: that you understand. Yeah, but and so they've endured a lot.

496
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: How could you?

497
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: How could you?

498
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it a I'm really asking this because I'm

499
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: not suggesting, I'm asking is it a you ain't doing

500
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: right by your race thing?

501
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

502
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, definitely, absolutely what it is?

503
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely a part of my family comes from Aami African

504
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: Methodist Episcopal church.

505
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: What it's what that idiot over in South Carolina walked into.

506
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: So it was a how could you do this to us?

507
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: You know, to us as a people, as as African Americans.

508
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: You're bringing in this little Caucasian baby when they're X

509
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: amount of black children in the system.

510
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, you could have chosen one of them.

511
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: But that was you.

512
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Tell that to someone who has never experienced a system,

513
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: you know, that was what? Oh gosh, David is nine.

514
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: That was probably that's when we first got it.

515
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was eight years ago.

516
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: Now, the same person every year she makes sure she

517
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: gets all three of our boys the best Christmas presents

518
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: they could ever, that's what love does, that's what time does.

519
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: More opportunity to your opportunity. That's right.

520
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: She's one of their biggest advocates now loves those boys wholeheartedly.

521
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: We'll go, We'll go to bat form and babysit.

522
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: You know, your family sits in the middle of an

523
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic word has the opportunity to educate and open minds.

524
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: That's right on both sides of the space.

525
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: Exactly.

526
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: The most important thing, it's the most helping people to

527
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: love one another regardless. That's that's the most important thing,

528
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: you know for us. And uh, I just think that's

529
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: a message that needs to be continued. You know, it's

530
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: a message that needs to be continued. Utilize your life

531
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Speaker 4: as a ministry, as a ministry to help someone else,

532
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: you know.

533
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Jesus said I'm going to disciple

534
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: to these folks and the rest of y'all stay over

535
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: there exactly no, exactly for call to Big Christ like

536
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: this is it. This is what it looks like in

537
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. You better get over your mammy talking selves.

538
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Get over, Yeah, get over, get over. And only people

539
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: in the South.

540
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Called it all.

541
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I am certain from a white perspective,

542
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: the whole mammy thing came out. I was wondering if

543
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: you got called Uncle Tom's or sellouts.

544
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: I got a whole post about it. Yeah, been called

545
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: it all but to live but all from Yeah for

546
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: loving a child?

547
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: A child?

548
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Has it praisen you?

549
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: It has grown us a lot. I'm certain it has grown.

550
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Us a lot.

551
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: Now I understand my wife, she's the one that's on

552
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: the social media. She sees a lot of it. She

553
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: tells me about a.

554
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Lot of it.

555
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: Now, there has been times where I was like, give

556
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: me that phone, let me, let me, let me respond.

557
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: She'd be like, no, I don't even know who you're

558
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: responding right. Matter. So here's the thing, y'all, hashtag transracial adoption.

559
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: How do you do the I don't know how you

560
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: do it? Say the handle for everybody listening that wants

561
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: to look in on the social media and see who

562
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: y'all are and the amazing family that y'all have, by

563
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: hook or croak established, they.

564
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: Go to they can go to Instagram at Foster Wild

565
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: Black Fam or TikTok Foster Wild Black Fam.

566
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: And to be clear, you get a lot of people supporting,

567
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: but you've gotten some negativity there too.

568
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Of course, of course we have.

569
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Speaker 5: I mean, actually one story of h I saw you

570
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 5: posts that kid to reach out to you saying will

571
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: you adopt me?

572
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: Yes? What? Yes, I've gotten.

573
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: I get my d MS heartbreaking and I say the

574
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: screenshot and it's because he's in a foster care system

575
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: and I just looked at his profile and I can't

576
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: respond because he's a minor, you know. I can't even say,

577
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: let me speak to your foster, you know, but it's heartbreaking.

578
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: I get kids asking me, will you adopt me? I've

579
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: had mothers who want us to adopt their child, you know.

580
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: And you've had mothers call you.

581
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I've had mothers to DM me and I had

582
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: to redirect them to someone else who was in a

583
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: position that could though honored and humbled by it, but heartbroken,

584
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, because there's only so much that we can do,

585
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: and that's why we created the page and hopes that

586
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: our story will open up for others to foster into

587
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: it out.

588
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, would you given all of it, would you

589
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: do it all over again? And would you encourage.

590
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: Others to absolutely with that hesitation.

591
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: With doubt. It feels to me like your lives have

592
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: been enriched and fulfilled by absolutely exponentially. Absolutely.

593
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, the Johnny was rough, but it was worth it.

594
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: To have kids that don't see any difference in you

595
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: because you didn't see any difference in there means a lot.

596
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: It means a lot. It's uh. It gives us hope

597
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: for the future on that. Yeah for me, Yeah, Alex,

598
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: got anything else that I missed?

599
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: I'd be curious your guys encouragement to everybody listening to

600
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 5: consider adopting, fostering, whatever big picture messages.

601
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Like that you guys have.

602
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Every two minutes a child walks into the foster cure system.

603
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: Is that right?

604
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: Every two minutes a child walks into the system in

605
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: the United States? The United States? Wow, Yes, Over twenty

606
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: thousand children age out of the system.

607
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Those are the ones I've coached. Eight and thirty three years.

608
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I've coached eight kids that were in the foster system.

609
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: All of them aged out. And the statistics on the

610
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: people that age out of the foster system are devastating

611
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: as it pertains to drug use, jail time and prostitution,

612
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: and joblessness, homelessness. Homelessness also sorry, I forgot that. That's

613
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: the biggest one. Yeah, because where they go exactly and

614
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: they age out at eighteen, right at eighteen.

615
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

616
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: My hope, my wish, my prayer is that our family

617
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: story will encourage others to open their homes and their

618
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: hearts to children in foster care. Peter said that he

619
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: didn't know that black people African Americans could foster, could adopt.

620
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: He said, I didn't even know black people.

621
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes we can. Let's break that myth. You know,

622
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: yes we can, and they.

623
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Can adopt white children. They can, no matter and happily right,

624
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: no matter what.

625
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: We just want others to consider it. Put it on

626
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: the table, think about it, have the conversation.

627
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: It is absolutely true when you think of multi racial families,

628
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: you think of white parents with Black Asian Hispanic children.

629
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: Because that's what's on every pamphlet, that's what's on every website,

630
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: that's what's on.

631
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Television, on Christmas cards. That's why Peter ourselves raising cultures.

632
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: I am buried.

633
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm throwing out all these hashtags, all these names of

634
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: accounts on social media you can find. We're changing the platform,

635
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: We're changing the of transracial adoption because it's important. To

636
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: know that there are others that look just like me,

637
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: they reflect me, that mirror me, that are fostering, that

638
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: are adopting.

639
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is, let's be honest. If we don't view

640
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: it that way, we're eliminating half of the potential families

641
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: adopt exactly. That's stupid. Yes, if we're going to be

642
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: an army of folks changing the world, the army has

643
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: to include everybody. That can include everybody. They can. What

644
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: we're saying one.

645
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 5: Thing we barely touched out with Peter, but I've seen

646
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 5: you've kind of touched on it to me is there

647
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: may be two million families waiting to adopt a child,

648
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: but they almost all want to adopt babies.

649
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: Yes.

650
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hence all these kids are still in the system,

651
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 5: and you're encouragement for people to consider older kids.

652
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Yes, the older kids need our love and attention just

653
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: as much as the babies. Everybody goes towards the babies.

654
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: But these teenagers who need family, who need structure, who

655
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: need role models, they're the ones who are crying out

656
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: for the most.

657
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: Let's go out there, let's research. Let's reach out to.

658
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: Your local Department of Children and Family Services and see

659
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 3: what need you can meet. Even if it's not fostering

660
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: or even if it's not adopting these kids, you can

661
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: always do something. You can support, you can donate, you

662
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: can sign up, you can volunteer. There's something we all

663
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: can do, you.

664
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Speaker 1: Know, they say it. You know, it takes thirty days

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Speaker 1: to form a habit or break a habit.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think if again, like she said, if you don't

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Speaker 4: want to adopt foster child, you know, for a small

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Speaker 4: short period of time, could change.

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Speaker 1: That child's life for the rest of their lives, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so just using that, utilizing that as an opportunity,

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Speaker 4: you know, to change a life, change the course of

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Speaker 4: a child's life. You can have a child that could

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Speaker 4: be on down, going down the road of drug use, alcoholism,

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Speaker 4: may have you never know. But they come into your

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Speaker 4: home and they see something different for a short period

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Speaker 4: of time could change them for a lifetime, you know.

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Speaker 1: So go adopt, go foster, you know, dare to be different.

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Speaker 5: Actually, one thing I see, I saw you post about

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Speaker 5: Isaiah one seventeen house. Yes, who was in here round A.

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Speaker 5: Paulson did an interview with us. Oh really and even

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Speaker 5: like on an even smaller level, like with what she's doing,

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Speaker 5: like half the kids in that Isaiah one seventeen house

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Speaker 5: for twenty four hours a week, like let them see radical.

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Speaker 1: Love exactly, yeah, exactly Yeah. So there you have it,

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Speaker 1: Mick and Tracy Taylor, crazy people who looked at the

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Speaker 1: norms and said we can break those for the good

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Speaker 1: of love and understanding. And one more time, those who

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Speaker 1: want to listen to those who are listening, that want

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Speaker 1: to see in on you tell me the handle some more.

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Speaker 3: Time, they can find us on Instagram at Foster Wild

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Speaker 3: Black Fam and on TikTok Foster Wild Black Fam.

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Speaker 1: Y'all check that out and celebrate two extraordinary people who

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Speaker 1: are part of an extraordinary six person family who are

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Speaker 1: happy to teach and love and explain and be part

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Speaker 1: of the solution to a very dire problem in our country.

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Speaker 1: Nick Tracy, honestly so good to get to know you,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for taking the time to come join us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us, thank you, thank you so much, and.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us this week. If Meek and

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Speaker 1: Tracy Taylor have inspired you in general, or better yet,

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Speaker 1: to take action by fostering adoption or getting involved with

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Speaker 1: one of the foster and adoption, nonprofits we've featured, or

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Speaker 1: something else entirely. Please let me know I'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear about it. You can write me anytime at Bill

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Speaker 1: at Normalfolks dot us, and I guarantee you this I'll respond.

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Speaker 1: grow an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney. Until

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