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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, it's almost famous.

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Speaker 1: OG's the podcast of goodness and it's one of your

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Speaker 1: hosts here, Bob Guiney.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: And thank you so much for tuning in and listening.

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Speaker 1: We have a very exciting podcast today. I'm actually super

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Speaker 1: excited because this is someone who came shortly after me

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Speaker 1: in the lineage of the Bachelors over the years, and

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Speaker 1: was the first year they put kind of a clever

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Speaker 1: twist on how they did the show, which we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk all about that. Let's bring him in. I

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Speaker 1: believe he would be Bachelor season six. It's Byron Velvick, Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: pro fisherman and all around awesome dude.

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Speaker 2: What's up Byron?

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Speaker 3: There he is, Bob Guiney.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. How about you? Oh man?

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Speaker 2: I am so good. Thank you so much for getting

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Speaker 2: on the show with us. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on the show. I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate the invitation.

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Speaker 1: When they called you for the show, and I want

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Speaker 1: to hear about all of it. I want to know

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Speaker 1: how they found you. All that kind of stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were already a big deal in the

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Speaker 1: professional fishing world, so this had to be kind of

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Speaker 1: a really cool situation, I guess, kind of bringing two

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Speaker 2: I mean, it had to just explode for you. I

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Speaker 3: Know, you know, Bobby, it was surreal because I'm back

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Speaker 3: East fishing, I'm on tour. I'm a bass gypsy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm literally sleeping at campgrounds and I'd never watched the

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Speaker 3: show in my life, and I had no clue what

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Speaker 3: The Bachelor was. But I was fishing all the tournaments

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Speaker 3: and one two US Opens. There's US Open trophy there

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Speaker 3: called Fishtails. I had a fishing agent, and after I

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Speaker 3: won my second US Open, she gifted me that pinball

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Speaker 3: machine as a congratulations winning my second US Open. So

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Speaker 3: I'm doing all this stuff. I'm a forty year old

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Speaker 3: divorced bass fisherman and my friends are watching The Bachelor,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, you need to be on this show.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even know what they were talking about, dude.

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Speaker 3: So when the Bachelor called, they wanted me to send

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Speaker 3: them pictures of me, you know, like like find out like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I know, do you wear a belt buckle? Do you

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Speaker 3: You know, they're exciting, they're stereotyping me as a fisherman,

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Speaker 3: and they're kind of apprehensive. I said, I got to

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Speaker 3: go to Kinkos, you remember, back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ride to Charlotte, North Carolina. That's the

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Speaker 3: all I have to send them from Kinkos.

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Speaker 2: That's funny. They're like, okay, you know what, they go,

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Speaker 2: We just we need pictures of you.

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Speaker 3: It was primitive internet, so there was no internet, have

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Speaker 1: Dude's I was going to say, yeah, because I was

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four. You were two seasons after me.

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Speaker 1: You were two thousand and five at least, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Was Jesse Palmer was right before me.

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Speaker 2: It was Jesse.

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Speaker 3: Where it was Jesse Palmer after you? Or was there

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Speaker 3: somebody else after you?

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Speaker 1: I was right, I was before Jesse. So I was

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three, two thousand and four, and then Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and four, which means

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Speaker 2: Then right now.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, right.

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Speaker 1: So when you get the call and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Is your family and your friends are they just like,

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Speaker 3: Well? I had never seen the show, and so my

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Speaker 3: friends were excited. My two friends in Vegas that were

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Speaker 3: And so they're they're telling the producers the casting directors

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Speaker 3: us and A. I was divorced, and I was much

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Speaker 3: older than most of the Bachelor's Dude, I was forty

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and at the time before you, I was

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Speaker 1: the oldest at thirty two.

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Speaker 3: If I remember, you were on Trista's show first, and

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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, I was like the region the lovable loser.

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Speaker 3: Awesome with me. They had they had the two guys,

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Speaker 3: I didn't get that. I thought at the very end,

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Speaker 3: When they were auditioning me, they I'm going around fishing

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know the deal.

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Speaker 3: There's a limousine, there's a driver waiting for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: at the airport and burbank and it's like, hello, mister Velvick.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, mister Velvick, like, my dad's not here.

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Speaker 3: And then they have to they have a little signage

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Speaker 3: And every time they ask me, they'd say, why are

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Speaker 3: I'm not you guys keep calling me. I've never seen

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Speaker 3: I'm not even trying out for this thing. See.

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Speaker 1: And I think, honest to God, like when I talk

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I remember even at my first row ceremony, I remember

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Speaker 1: saying to the ladies, like, ladies, look, if you go

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Speaker 1: there's no uh, you know, we're not hot air balloon

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Speaker 3: They kept they kept scratching off the hard questions because

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Speaker 3: I've watched the Weather Channel, I watched Jesse James, Monster Garage.

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Speaker 3: They go, well, we're going to get you the cleanest

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Speaker 3: you ever done a dating service?

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Speaker 3: I go, I'm back east fishing. I'm around the country.

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Speaker 3: I all I do is fish man and but I'd

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Speaker 3: It's so weird, Bob, because it's like, I go. I

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't believe I even got this far.

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Speaker 3: Every single time they called me back, I'm like, my

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Speaker 3: mom lives in southern California. It's a chance for me

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Speaker 3: to go say hi to my mom. Signed the non

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Speaker 3: disclosure in it, but I go, I'm getting an all

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Speaker 3: them what I'm doing, can't tell them all I'm there

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Speaker 3: and seeing and Bob seeing Jay overby at the end

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Speaker 3: was weird because you know, you go to the hotels.

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Speaker 3: You remember when we're first auditioning, you see other guys

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Speaker 3: the same reason you are. But going across that line, right,

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Speaker 3: you're like, there's eight guys, ten guys, twelve guys at

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Speaker 3: it's crazy. And then Jay and I we were a

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, and I'm thinking, maybe the girls are

435
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,240
Speaker 3: there just to tell me some bad stuff on the

436
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,160
Speaker 3: girls that are in the.

437
00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 2: Show, right, all right, yes, that makes sense.

438
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,320
Speaker 3: And so of course the audience is like, oh my god,

439
00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,479
Speaker 3: it's Heather from whatever season and Mary from Bob season.

440
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 3: You know. So the joke was on me because they

441
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 3: have to tell me they're what's called Bachelor All Stars.

442
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 3: And they all start they go, We're Bachelor All Stars

443
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,919
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I have no idea what's going on?

444
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 3: And they go, well, we're coming back on the show.

445
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,439
Speaker 3: And I'm like, do the ten girls back home know

446
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,000
Speaker 3: about this?

447
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna know, Yeah, they're gonna know.

448
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,159
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a shark that's back there, like you

449
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 4: two girls are coming on, and they had they had

450
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,240
Speaker 4: I think it was Heather and she was like an

451
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 4: outdoor newsgirl and she worked in the fishing industry, and

452
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 4: then married Algato from your season and I didn't know,

453
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,160
Speaker 4: so that was that was wildly bizarre, and it was.

454
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 1: All that it was the first time they threw like

455
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 1: chum in the water, to use some fishing terms there,

456
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 1: I guess the first.

457
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 2: Time they ever did that. Thank you, buddy, thank you,

458
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 2: thank you.

459
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 1: But it was I had to I remember watching because

460
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,040
Speaker 1: I at the time, I was still watching the show,

461
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 1: like I don't really watch it as much as I

462
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,320
Speaker 1: probably should now, but as I remember watching the show,

463
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing because

464
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,080
Speaker 1: I loved Mary, you know, and I and I knew Heather,

465
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 1: but I didn't know her as well. But I was like,

466
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is gonna be so interesting because

467
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,199
Speaker 1: you had some great women on your season already, but

468
00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,200
Speaker 1: it was like to bring that wrinkling automatically. All the

469
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 1: women are going to know who they are, right because

470
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: they're probably all fans of the show. Like I could

471
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 1: only imagine going back to that mansion with those with

472
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 1: those ladies and tell.

473
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 3: So Jason Carbone, he said, the whole time they're getting

474
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,880
Speaker 3: to know me and I'm on the show, they're thinking, man,

475
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 3: Mary Delgado would be a great fit for this guy.

476
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 3: That's what they kept saying, you know, and so I'll

477
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 3: never forget Bob. I get out of this Austin Martin,

478
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 3: you know, downtown, and Jason grabs me. He was always

479
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 3: very dramatic with those big glasses, and he Goesron Byron,

480
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,199
Speaker 3: he goes, this might be the night that changes the

481
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 3: rest of your life. He goes, enjoy and I'm like,

482
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 3: I like, I'm by myself. What are you talking about?

483
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 3: Like we're shooting b roll here, aren't we We're shooting

484
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 3: bole or something like like there's nobody with me, and

485
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 3: he goes, I'm just letting you know tonight's night that

486
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 3: might change your life, because he said through the course

487
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 3: of the show, he kept saying, Mary, Mary, you know,

488
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 3: we should really bring back Mary, And it was I

489
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 3: think they were kind of they were looking for a

490
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: successful bachelor, you know, they were and the older and

491
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: they were a successful show, a proposal and everything.

492
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: I'll never forget the night that I let Mary go

493
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: on my season of the show. And I don't know

494
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 1: who was more heartbroken me or Carbone, honestly, because he

495
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: was like he was like, I just think he's like,

496
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, for me, it was to be really honest,

497
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I remember thinking Mary was more emotionally mature than I was,

498
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: to such a degree that she was she was ready

499
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 1: for that next step, and I was like uncertain, you

500
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

501
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: And so I was like, I don't know how I feel.

502
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: And that's why I ended up dating after the show

503
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: instead of proposing, because I was still at this place.

504
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: You were in your thirties. I mean, look, you were

505
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 3: ten years younger than me, so I had lived that life.

506
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: I had dated. I'm like, I don't need to play

507
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 3: that field or the rock star card, Like I'm not

508
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: going to fall into you know, I'm not going to

509
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: come off the show and just start, you know, like

510
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: I've been there, done that, and I just forty years old.

511
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: It'd be nice to have a great relationship. And that's

512
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: where they they did. Yeah, they said this guy's legit.

513
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 3: I proposed on the show and we lasted yea for

514
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: four and a half years.

515
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is amazing.

516
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 3: I mean, tried to make it work.

517
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: They needed the show, and I.

518
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: Think you're right, you know, I think from the standpoint

519
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: of the show needed a proposal, because if you think

520
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: about it, they they did not get one out of

521
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: Alex Michelle the first guy, or did they I don't think.

522
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they the interned is, but I know

523
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: they didn't get one out of they did with Andrew

524
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: fire or they didn't get one out of Aaron Burgie.

525
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: They got one with their Andrew Firestone, they didn't with

526
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: me right, and then Jesse didn't propose, and they and

527
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: so they needed someone who was serious about it.

528
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: Not that the other guys weren't serious, but you know,

529
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: it's like it's like you get a lottery ticket.

530
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I've said this a few times when

531
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: talking about the Batch, like you get this lottery ticket

532
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: in life, where all of a sudden, here are thirty

533
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: women who all could be potentially great for you, you know,

534
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's like right, but they might not be right,

535
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: and so you're not going to know until you go

536
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: through the process. And I was so excited when you

537
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: and Mary, you know, ended up together on the show.

538
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously four years together, five years

539
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: together by today's standard, that's a great relationship anyway.

540
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: But you go to a TV show.

541
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: That's that's next level, man, that's like Silver Anniversary style,

542
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, from a TV show data, you know, situation,

543
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean obviously you guys didn't end up

544
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 1: getting married, but had a great relationship, had a great

545
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: run together. I think, you know, when people look back

546
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: at the show, they look so favorably upon your season

547
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: because it was a return of someone who they loved

548
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: from a season before. But it was also the women

549
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: got to choose the guy, you know, because that's the

550
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: other part about the show that is interesting, right, Like

551
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: all these women get out of the limo, you know,

552
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: most seasons, they don't know who it's going to be.

553
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Yet now they do pretty regularly, but back then they

554
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't know they get two guys, right, and now they've

555
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: got the ability to instead of just hoping for a rose,

556
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: they get to give the row. It was almost like

557
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. First episode was the Bacherette, the rest was

558
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: a bachelor.

559
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: You know.

560
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: It's kind of great, right, And what was cool they

561
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: actually I saw something come up years later that said

562
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: it was the most romantic proposal because I knew her

563
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 3: mom and dad didn't speak English, you know, that's from Cuba,

564
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: and they spoke Spanish. And I told the producers and said,

565
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna learn I want to know exactly how to

566
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: say will you marry me? In Spanish so her family,

567
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: her mom and dad, hear it, you know, without subtitles.

568
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: They want her mom and dad to hear me and

569
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: propose to her in Spanish, you know. And even now

570
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: kind of gives me some chills.

571
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: I love that you did that.

572
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: At the time, I'm like, I want to say it

573
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: in Spanish, so most importantly her mom and dad and

574
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 3: her hear it in their native language and they can

575
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 3: subtitle it. But but I wanted it to be special

576
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: because I went on that show. Bob and I had

577
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: a couple dear, dear, close people, one of which is

578
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: my grandfather, you know, the real I was talking about.

579
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: My grandfather always wanted me to have a great relationship

580
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 3: and always kept asking my mom when is he going

581
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: to find a good woman? When's he gonna find a

582
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: good woman. And then my dear friend Steve Oliver, I

583
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: had like a brother of mine, Jeff Oliver, when they

584
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 3: both passed away shortly before this thing, and they both

585
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: used to say Jeff was a Bachelor fan and he

586
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: always told his dad Steve, my mentor he goes Byron

587
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: needs to be on the Bachelor Byron needs on the match,

588
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: and then tragically I had at twenty uh, and it

589
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: was oh, my gosh, died at twenty and he was

590
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: a Bachelor fan. And my grandfather passes away, and then

591
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they start calling me, and I'm thinking,

592
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: this is like, I'm gonna be weird here, but that's

593
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: like divine intervention.

594
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: I was going to say divine invention. I was just

595
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: going to say.

596
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: That there's something at the end of this experience where

597
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to take it very serious. If they picked

598
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: me and I become the one, I'm not messing around

599
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: with this. I took notes at night after the dates.

600
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I would take notes back in my little room my dogs,

601
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: and my dog Sabrina was there, but I was taking

602
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: I had a whole I had all these diaries because

603
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, for you, you weren't in that place. But

604
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: at forty years old and being divorced, I was totally

605
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: in that place. Like I was totally in that place.

606
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: And and my two people that were the closest to

607
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: me that passed away, I'm like, this is happening for

608
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: a reason. Maybe the one is at the end of it.

609
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: And I wanted so badly for the one to be

610
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: at the end of it. And uh and so yeah,

611
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: when I proposed to Mary and those you know, the

612
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: beginning of that relationship, I was one hundred percent convinced

613
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: that this was our this was our destiny. And The Bachelor,

614
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: like Trista and Ryan, this this show put me Arey

615
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: and I together, brought you guys together. Yeah, because because

616
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 3: why else would I be on The Bachelor unless Grandpa

617
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: and Jeff Oliver. You know, we're handing me an opportunity

618
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: to meet somebody. I wasn't gonna meet him fishing. I

619
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: wasn't a campground in Mississippi.

620
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: I love that, man, Byron, I love that story. I

621
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: did not know that. I love that. I think that's

622
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: so special man.

623
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: That shows you know why your sincerity really, you know,

624
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: really showed through because you were in this right place

625
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: of mind. And I mean, you know, nothing like heartbreak

626
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: to set you up for for you know, love, right,

627
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you had this heartbreak that really made you

628
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: kind of do a gut check on yourself where you

629
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: were in your life.

630
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: I love that. I absolutely love that. Now.

631
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: I saw Steve Oliver right aftering that show. Steve was

632
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: the dad Steve was Jeff's dad, and uh, right after

633
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: the show, when when we got to come out from

634
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: under our you know, NDA and everything, Yeah, yeah, I

635
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 3: gave him a big hug and I said, you know,

636
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: this is Jeff Jeff. I want to get emotional, you know,

637
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: I go, you know, Jeff, Jeff, that's Jeff making this happen.

638
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: And we both had tears in our eyes and we're

639
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: just like, yep, that's that's Jeff and Grandpa and they

640
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: made they they made this happen. Because how does how

641
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: does a guy get discovered, you know, out of the

642
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: left field back east, just fishing professionally and get called

643
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: up and ABC turns him into the Bachelor. So so

644
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: I to this day, I was like, that was meant

645
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: to be something. What a life?

646
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah change, And you know what, I think there's different

647
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: levels of success for for relationships too, Like you know,

648
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: your relationship was a success even though it didn't you know,

649
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: culminate in forever, it doesn't mean it didn't have a

650
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: huge impact on your life and your heart and and

651
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: where you are today.

652
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, we all meet the.

653
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: People we meet in life for for for different reasons

654
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: and for different times, you know, and and good for you, man,

655
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: I love I love that story, and I love hearing

656
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: about your connection to your friend and your grandpa and it's.

657
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: It was touching.

658
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: It was touch and touching.

659
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the life experience, you know, you go, you

660
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: go into this place where you lose our, your anonymity,

661
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: and boy, you realize how pressure it is to be anonymous. Like, yeah,

662
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: you go back, you know, you when you finally get

663
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: back to the point where people aren't recognizing you, and

664
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: I got God, I really feel bad for Heather Locklear

665
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: and you know, or Brad Pitt or Jen Aniston or

666
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: you know all those all the people that lived under

667
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: that light the whole time because forever. Yeah, yeah, I

668
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: can't imagine, because I really enjoyed it. When I finally

669
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: stopped being you know, I went back into fishing. I

670
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 3: didn't want to become anything else. Besides, we'll go right

671
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: back into professional fishing and share you on TV shows

672
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: on ESPN and all that stuff. And so it was

673
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: a springboard form of more fishing television, which is where

674
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: my heart was at right.

675
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: No, I love that.

676
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I love that, and it's what a better entree to,

677
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, go back to where you were, just going

678
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: back with a little bit even more, not that you'd

679
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: already had huge success in your industry, but now you

680
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: go back a little more notoriety and maybe can bring

681
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: some fans from other walks who didn't know about professional

682
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: fishing or as much about what you had done already

683
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: and accomplished already, and now they do. And yeah, I

684
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: love I love the whole thing, man, I think it's

685
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: so awesome. Now.

686
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: I know you have a daughter, right so yep.

687
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: And thirteen thirteen years old. She'll tell you she's fourteen

688
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: and a half and she's every day to that. She

689
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: got to say it. She's fifteen and every day I

690
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: take her to school and every day I drop her off.

691
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: And right now, the reason we're perfect at one thirty is,

692
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: you know, at three thirty I turned into a dad

693
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: pumpkin again. I think she either has put vaulting this

694
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: afternoon or she's a pole vaulter and a volleyball player.

695
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: So I know, at fourteen you just run them around

696
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: to their sports. But I'm single dadding it, so yeah,

697
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: full blown single dad and spend all my time, you

698
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: know now really just kind of working on some fishing stuff.

699
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: I do the podcast. I work with my sponsors, and

700
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: but everything is based here in San Antonio because my

701
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: daughter goes to school every day, you know, six miles

702
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: away from my house right here.

703
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

704
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, so I know you you you know you're

705
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily you're not married any longer.

706
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: Are you dating now? Are you? Are you?

707
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Are you out there?

708
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: And what's it like to be the former Bachelor and

709
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: to be dating?

710
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Is that crazy?

711
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: Dating isn't easy because when you have a minor child,

712
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: it's difficult because you're focused on It's like I always said,

713
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: who really wants to see you? When you have you know,

714
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: you don't have I don't have anybody else sharing custody,

715
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: and it's not like I have babysitters and you know people,

716
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: so ultimately it's it's difficult. Dating is really difficult and challenging.

717
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: And I knew early on when I had to quit

718
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: my career and come home when the divorce started and

719
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: it came out of left field at twenty sixteen, I

720
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 3: had to leave a very lucrative job because by then

721
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: I was doing television, I had sponsors, I was working,

722
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: I had because of the Bachelor. The TV thing exploded

723
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: in outdoor programming. And then suddenly I realized the wheels

724
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: were coming off back home, and I had a five

725
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: year old daughter at the house, and I'm like, I

726
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: got to go home. So I was in the middle

727
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: of my I was at the beginning of my season.

728
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: I had just fished Florida. I was on my way

729
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: to South Carolina for the next tournament, and I finally

730
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: got the wake up call that I I gotta I

731
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: gotta call my sponsors everybody and drive home and and

732
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: circle the wagon and become a full time dad or

733
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: or you know, get into that thing with dad where

734
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: it's like so once you do that, Bob, it's not easy, man,

735
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: because suddenly you got this little girl. It's like, you know,

736
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: it's who are you going to bring into her life.

737
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to ask her there just to help

738
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: raise her, and I don't want to put put that

739
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: on anybody or have a relationship that's not worth anything

740
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: except that my daughter loves the girl, and the girl

741
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: loves my daughter. So now you can't you know, you

742
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: can't even value how that relationship is because you're so

743
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: busy say well, my daughter loves her, she loves my daughter,

744
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: so even though this thing would have never lasted under

745
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: normal circumstances. Now I'm gonna let this thing, or what

746
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: if the girl just doesn't like me and leaves and

747
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: breaks my daughter's heart? There were hearts, Yeah, you know,

748
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: there was too many moving parts. So I said, I

749
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: got to protect my kid. And dating with a minor

750
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: child is not a good, not a good, not a

751
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: good situation.

752
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could imagine it'd be tough too, Like you

753
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: don't want to parading random's in, you know, And yeah,

754
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: I totally understand that.

755
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: Dude, she didn't even know I was on The Bachelor.

756
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: I kept it a secret until she was twelve. Seven.

757
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: Is amazing people would come up and recognize me, And

758
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: you said this earlier. You know, when people come up

759
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: and they recognize you, you hope they say, aren't you

760
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: the Fishermen? And then you feel this connection, right, but

761
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: they aren't you? And they said the Bachelor. You're like, uh,

762
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: because then they're going to ask you about the current show,

763
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: which I haven't watched, or yeast season, and I go,

764
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: I never watched it after I left the show. It's

765
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: just sorry, but I didn't have a podcast or aning.

766
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: I had no reason to watch it, so people think

767
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: that you're following the franchise. And I'm like, I was

768
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: in and out. I was in, I did the show,

769
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: and I was back to fishing.

770
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that to me the other day. You're like,

771
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it before I was on it, and

772
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it.

773
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: After it since.

774
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: But my daughter's twelve years old, Bob, and she's had

775
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: her little swim thing and the coach is there, and

776
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: the coach's daughter comes running out to the parking lot

777
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: because the coach, my daughter's swim coach tells her daughter,

778
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: who's back from college, Byron's the Bachelor. This little girl

779
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: comes right off to the parking lot. I'll never forget it.

780
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, oh my god. She goes,

781
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: my mom just told me you're the Bachelor. And my

782
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: daughter's twelve. She goes, what what And the girl goes,

783
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: you're the Bachelor. I go, no, no, no, I'm a

784
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: fishing guy and I did a segment on that show.

785
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: And she goes, no, you weren't, No, you weren't your

786
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: Bachelor season six, and cam my daughter goes, my mom

787
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: watches that show. She says, her mom watches that show.

788
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: They're not even anymore. And I'm like Camber and so

789
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: about twelve years old, she found out I was on

790
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: the Bachelor. Took seven years.

791
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you.

792
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: Know what, you're a better man than me. My son.

793
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: I will literally take my son and both boys. I

794
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: have a seven year old and a four and a

795
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: half year old, and I'll take both boys to McDonald's playland,

796
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: right and they'll be up there playing and the little

797
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, a fifteen or sixteen year old kid working

798
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: will come over with the tray with milkshakes and French

799
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: fries on them, and my son will yell from the place.

800
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Cape, yeah, that's him. He'll take a picture with you.

801
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, and my youngest ago, my youngest to say

802
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: he's Bob the Builder.

803
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: Bob the Builder. I love it.

804
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: So the oldest one knows, the oldest one knows about

805
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, but it's never seen it. And then the

806
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: younger one, Uh, the younger one thinks I'm Bob the Builder.

807
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: So you know, from that perspective, I guess we both

808
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: have done a pretty decent job of shielding him from

809
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: some of that stuff.

810
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, nice shot, nice job, man. I love hearing that.

811
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: Story. Yeah, I got a daughter that he doesn't need

812
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: to watch it, you know. And I only found out

813
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: just recently that you can actually see it online because

814
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: I was always told you couldn't see the early episodes.

815
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know you could. I've never found.

816
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: Out last week that apparently they show up on two

817
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: B or something like that, like you can. I had

818
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: no idea that they released the early episodes. And I'm

819
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: giving it away now and I'm sure my daughter is

820
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: now going to go watch it, but she's never seen it.

821
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: I have DVDs, dude, all I got to the DVDs.

822
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Same, Yeah, so if my mom has them somewhere, I

823
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: don't even know where they are.

824
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is when we were in

825
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: the mix, we were doing so many promotions that I

826
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: never really watched the show, like, yeah, truly, I've never

827
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: sat and watched the DVDs. And you know, and now

828
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: that I know it might be streaming, like I never

829
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: ever watched the show, and a crazy thing happened. I

830
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: don't know if you experienced this, but like maybe eight

831
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: years ago or whatever it was, VH one aired the

832
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: whole franchise. Do you remember that?

833
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

834
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: And so suddenly you were probably getting recognized again. I

835
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: was getting recognized again because VH one was airing The Bachelor,

836
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: So it's like all of a sudden, people were like, Hey,

837
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm watching VH one right now and your seasons on.

838
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: Don't tell me who you picked, Like, don't tell me

839
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: who you picked? Hey, did you ever have the experience?

840
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: So I'm walking through an airport and people are like, hey,

841
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: don't pick don't pick Jennifer next week, like the show

842
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: was live. You're like what And They're like, I don't

843
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: know how you gave cart Carritt Kathy a rose, but

844
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: don't pick Jennifer. She's no good. And I'm like, dude,

845
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: that show was This is not a live show. It's

846
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: not in real time here. I'm not gonna put on

847
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: a suit next Wednesday and go back and give out

848
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: more roses. Well, that's funny.

849
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: That is so funny. I did. I used to get

850
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: it all the time. In fact, it was kind of interesting.

851
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: You know, my season was I think I'm not sure

852
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: how yours was at the end, but I noticed that

853
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: they at the time, they still liked to make it

854
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: look like it was going to be the other person

855
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: that you picked. So the edits toward the end were

856
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: really pushing that relationship, and then all of a sudden,

857
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you propose to the other one.

858
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: So the crowd goes, oh my god. So I'll never forget.

859
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: The next day after the finale aired, and I chose

860
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: a woman named Estella, and Estella and I are on

861
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: our way to the airport and in the in the

862
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: on the radio, they're like, you know, can you believe

863
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Bob picked her? I mean, we thought for sure. And

864
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I felt so bad. I was like, you know, that's

865
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: just editing, right, It's.

866
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: Just that, Like I was because I felt so bad

867
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: because it was just editing.

868
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she she and I had a great relationship,

869
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: but I had a great relationship too with with the

870
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: with I mean really my whole Final four, but with

871
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Kelly Joe in particular, and Estella, I felt like, I mean,

872
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: it was just it was so difficult, you know, at

873
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: that time. But yeah, look, man, it's so fun to

874
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: have you on and nice to connect with you. I mean,

875
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I've heard just a nice stuff about you forever, and

876
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: it's so great. You know, when you meet somebody and

877
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: you hear great things and it's all true.

878
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: So I love. I love that I get to meet you. Man,

879
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the pod.

880
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, I appreciate it having me on.

881
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: And like I said, if anybody wants to cross over

882
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: and check out a podcast, I'm still every week I

883
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: do fishtails. You know, it's just a little it's probably

884
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: be boring to them unless they're like fishing, but it's

885
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: it's kind of fun to do that and it's keeping

886
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: me busy. And I just appreciate you guys calling to

887
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: have me on. And man, it's cool to talk to

888
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: one person that lived it. It's been years year. Aaron Bergie.

889
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: When we did a game show a million years ago,

890
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: Aaron was the only other person I could talk to

891
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: about the show. Man.

892
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: He's a great one too, isn't he. I love that dude, cool, great, Yeah,

893
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: absolutely love him. He Actually when I was still living

894
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: out in Seattle, he and I connected. We ran into

895
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: each other at the Kentucky Derby and yeah, and he

896
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, we need to get together. And you know,

897
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: people say that kind of stuff all the time, right,

898
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: and and then all of a sudden he was like, Hey,

899
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: my wife and I are going to come out to Seattle.

900
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: Can we you know, can we can we get together?

901
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, stay with us, and he did.

902
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: They did.

903
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: They came and stayed with us at our place and

904
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: we just had the greatest time with them. And and

905
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: so I meet it when I I mean it when

906
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: I say this to you, Byron, the invitation is open.

907
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: If ever you're coming to Michigan, please man, please keep

908
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: my number, give me a call and uh, and let's

909
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: get together and we'll have some fun and I'll show

910
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: you around some some spots over on the west side

911
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: of the state, which I'm sure you haven't seen too

912
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: much of yet.

913
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: I would love it if my daughter and I are

914
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: ever out that way. You know, who knows where travels

915
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: are gonna take us, but I would love to check

916
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: out Michigan with you. So hey, same thing with you.

917
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: If you come to San Antonio and you're gonna see

918
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: Riverwalk again, you know we're not. We're thirty minutes from Riverwalk,

919
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: so we'll come see you.

920
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: I will.

921
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually add San Antonio to your contact on

922
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: my phone because I want to. I want to make

923
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: sure I reach out to because I absolutely love that area.

924
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it's so cool and it's such a great

925
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: area and you know people are great down there.

926
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, well thank you man, thank you for joining

927
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: us too.

928
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for coming on the pod.

929
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like I said, my brother in

930
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: law and his i'll say his name, I'm Phil Maher,

931
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: my brother in law Jadie Tomorrow and Film Maher. They

932
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: are big added listeners of yours and they love the show.

933
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: So so when I I told him I'm not even

934
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: kiddy man, it was like they got is like all

935
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I told him I was talking to Elvis.

936
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: They were like so fired up.

937
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, They're like, told, we need to get him

938
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: into a walleye. We get him into walleye though we

939
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: got I'm like, all right, I'll let him know.

940
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: I need to have one of them on as a guest.

941
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: I could have Bob Guiney's brother on as a guest

942
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: on Fish Tank. That would be that would be a

943
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: nice full circle.

944
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: He will talk your ear off. I'm telling you, he's

945
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: he's he makes us look quiet.

946
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good tie in Bob. I mean,

947
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 3: it's like every week we have a different guest. Why

948
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: not have him on and say that the connection with

949
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: this guy is it's Bob Guiney's brother. I did Bob's

950
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: podcast and now I got his brother. I'm talking and

951
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: we do fishing like or dude, I'm not. I will

952
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: one hundred percent do it because right now the sponsors

953
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: are saying, yeah, we do a bunch of bass stuff.

954
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: We did one saltwater guy who has a TV show.

955
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: He used to be a guest on my show when

956
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: I have a saltwater show on ESPN. So now he

957
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: has a show on ESPN call Unfathomed. And so we've

958
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: done a little bit of salt water. But I would

959
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: love to have your brother on Fishtails. If he's oh

960
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: my gosh, he will lose his mind. So I'm not joking,

961
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: Like if you text it and say okay, and then

962
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: I'll tie you. Yes, I'll say, guys, this is cool.

963
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Because Bob had me on his podcast. We got to

964
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: talking about it and here's Bob Guiney's brother and let's

965
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: talk Walley. Dude, I'm not joking it.

966
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna text you. I'm gonna text you right.

967
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: At the end of this so that we can we

968
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: can connect about this because he would lose his mind.

969
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: I would love it and then I got my first guy.

970
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: It's my fast.

971
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: He will probably he'll probably want.

972
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: To pull in his buddy Phil, because Phil is even

973
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: more more of an avid guy than.

974
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: I wanted to be. Like you remember the Great White North,

975
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: you know.

976
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: The on I want you on his friend, I want

977
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: you in the studio, and then it's gonna be like like,

978
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 5: you know, how you doing?

979
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: Good?

980
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Dog? I used to love that show.

981
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: Remember s c TV. Yeah, yes, it was amazing.

982
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that you know they always say that's

983
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: what led to uh Bill and Ted, that's what led

984
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: to all you know everything. So yeah, Bob and Doug

985
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: McKenzie from brother Doug McKenzie from the Great White North,

986
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: I love it is.

987
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: Your brother and his friend are gonna be wileye guests.

988
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: So this is oh my god.

989
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm in all right, I'm gonna connect with you after

990
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you so much for joining us almost

991
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: famous the Ogs ladies, gentlemen, A true o g and

992
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: a great a great, great guy man Byron. Thank you

993
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: so much, brother, and and let's definitely connect off.

994
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: Air, all right, Bob, thank you for having me on.

995
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: All right, guys, there you go, iron velvick Og super

996
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: cool guy man, I love that, dude. I hope, I

997
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: hope you'll all, uh any of you out there with

998
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: their fisher people jump on his podcast, fish Tails and

999
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: make sure you check it out.

1000
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: Take care, everybody, Thanks for listening.

1001
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: A