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Discover the 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.959 Forest dot Org. Brought to you by the United States 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:43.240 Forest Service and the AD Council. Hello, everybody out there 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:49.320 in the podcast universe or pod verse as I just 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:54.120 now named it, Welcome to another episode of the Office 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.000 Deep Dive. As always, it's me, that's right, your host, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.800 Brian Baumgartner, coming at you with a very special end 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.680 of the year edition of the podcast. Because we did it, guys, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:13.760 we made it through another year, and as a new 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:18.360 Year's treat today, I've got another call in episode lined 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.480 up for you, because look, I'll admit it, I can't 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.600 get enough of you. That's what she said. Uh, but 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.680 I mean that truly. It has been so incredible to 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.959 hear from you and talk to you. So thank you 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.760 all of you who reached out. We got so many calls. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.280 Thank you for taking the time to connect with us. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.560 And you know what, I'm just gonna go right into it. Yeah, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.639 So I would like to welcome right now you my listeners, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:55.840 to the very last episode of one an episode starring 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:02.640 well you. So let's see who do we have calling 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:12.120 in today? Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:18.480 Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every month, left 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:32.679 over from the night before. How's it going, Brian? Thank 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.960 you for having me on this show. This is very nice. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.000 It's lovely to see you. Anyways, I have a question 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:43.320 about Kevin here. Throughout the whole show, Kevin got way dumber. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.920 You know, in the first one episode, not one episodes, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.840 one season, second season he was stupid, yes, slow, yeah, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:59.160 but he seemed to morph into this borderline mentally disabled person. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.560 And and I was just curious because that you not 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.800 you call it out, but what Oscar and Angela called 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.680 out when you're talking with the you know, why use 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.440 big word when small word d trick? You know, he's 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.640 gotten worse over the years. But I was just curious 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.480 if that is it was an intentional thing done by 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.440 either you or the writing staff, or if it just 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.719 morphed over the nine years that you guys were on 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.279 air into that, and if that was a conscious decision 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.320 that you made to make him done more slowly, or 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.080 if it just you kind of got more into the 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.960 character as a story went on, and that was actually 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.719 how the character was supposed to be played the entire time. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.800 Uh yeah, thanks for having me on almost shake your hand, now, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.719 shake Jake, Jake, We just shook hands. Can you believe it? Mom? 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:47.479 All right bye, we just shook hands. Nick. Thank you 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.000 for your question. Look, this has been brought up a lot, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.080 especially if you go onto the deep dark web that 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:02.479 is read it um. The original character description of Kevin 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.720 when they were casting. The casting notice said, the only 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:12.679 thing remarkable about Kevin is that he is remarkably unremarkable. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.240 So that's where we started from, and I think we 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.080 found over time that there were, in fact some remarkable 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:27.680 things about Kevin. So yes, Kevin morphs. Really it was 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.320 the writing the writer's fell in love with, let's just 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:37.520 call it Kevin's childlike sensibility. And so my nerdy I've 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:42.640 talked about this before, but my nerdy actory justification for 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.920 this was when the camera crew. When the documentary crew 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.160 began to film dunder Mifflin, Kevin was very nervous and 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:56.680 much more reserved. And then as he became more comfortable 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.400 with the cameras being in the office, maybe he went 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.960 out with a beer or two with some of the 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:08.640 crew guys, more of his true personality came out. Now 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.960 that's my justification. I think the reality was the writer's 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.680 fell in love with that sort of childlike sensibility and 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.560 leaned into it. Also, Kevin was used as one of 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:26.000 the characters for physical comedy, which has a tendency to 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.839 let's just say dumb up a character. Uh. And in fact, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.680 when Steve Carrell left, I was told by Paul Lieberstein 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.760 and some of the other writers that they were going 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:41.040 to even more lean into Kevin and physical comedy because 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.599 Steve Carrell was gone, who was helming a lot of 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.919 the physical comedy. So there's the answer. Nick. It wasn't 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.919 really conscious, but it did evolve because of how the 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.480 writers were writing the role. So he started as remarkably 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.400 unremarkable and I think he ended, um, well, something quite different. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.920 But thanks Nick, and here's here's your handshake back. Hi, Brian, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.640 my name is Randy. I live in Santa Rosa, California. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.600 Big fan of the Office. Of course, I wanted to 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.320 tell you my three grandsons are also their ages twelve, fifteen, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.200 and eighteen. They also love the show. And Um, I 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:25.600 was wondering how many takes typical scene would would be done, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.120 and I guess it would depend on the different directors. Um, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.640 there seems to be so much going on in a scene, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.320 so many different people involved in a given scene, that 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.160 to do very many takes would be kind of hard. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.160 So what would you say the average number of takes 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.360 was from scene? Well, thanks, Randy, And let me tell 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.120 you on a personal note, the fact that you're a 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.280 grandfather and you're a fan of the show, and you 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.320 have grandkids that are fans of the show. I think 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:00.600 that is well to quote Kevin awesome. You know, that's 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.320 an impossible question to answer. It really depended upon the 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.320 complexity of the scene. And as you said, the number 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.560 of people, and actually the number of people that were 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.840 in a scene increased the number of takes that would 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.600 be required to shoot it because they needed to make 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:23.240 sure that everybody was covered. Um. Largely it depended on 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:30.080 two factors. One, how many takes were lost because people 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.439 were laughing. That is just that is just the truth. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.760 And I my mind goes to the conference room scenes 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.920 and Steve Correll, Michael Scott at the front scenes like 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:46.560 prison Mike, those were incredibly difficult. The more improv that 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.400 he and others did that caught the rest of us 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.920 off balance. The smiles and the laughs came. So that 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.000 was one and to how much improv was done. So 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:02.400 because we were shooting the show for NBC, mega conglomerate corporation, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.040 you know, everything we said had to be approved. So 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:11.360 the script as written was always shot because if it 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.400 if it wasn't on the page, we may not get 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.240 approval for it, and then we would be in trouble. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.800 So everything as written was shot because it was had 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:23.240 been approved by the network and this band of people 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:28.880 called standards and practices which ensure that nothing naughty gets 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.280 on the air, or at least not too naughty. Um. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.160 But then we were always every scene we were given 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.800 a free pass, a pass to play and improv. And 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.320 depending on how successful the scene was working, depending on 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:47.319 how successful actors were able to improvise or writers were 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.760 able to pitch new jokes, the scene would happen more. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.160 But you know, because of that, that's why on the 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:58.000 DVD s and now on Peacock, there are so many 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:03.319 additional scenes that were that were cut. Our first assembly 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.679 they called it was about forty five minutes, and when 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.400 you think about running time on NBC, that was twenty 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.960 two minutes. So on average we had a double episode 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.439 shot and then they had to cut it down to 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.600 twenty two. I know that's not an answer, Randy exactly 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:27.360 how many takes? Just remember this the chili scene. One take. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.280 That's really all you need to know. Hi, Brian, this 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.040 is Steve Schrader listening to your podcast today. I heard about, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.000 um your request here from listeners, So this is my 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.800 first I'd like to say, I guess is one. UM. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.680 I love your podcast, big fan, obviously, big fan of 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.600 the Office. UM you were also I've already pre um 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.679 bought the book, re ordered the book, and UM, you're 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.679 kind of enough to do a cameo for my wife 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.920 for her birthday, I want to say, a couple of 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.640 years ago now, UM with chili, So thank you. So 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.320 I'm a big fan. UM my question is to you, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.839 and there is no certainly no one besides you that 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.840 could play Kevin. But I'm always interested in what the 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.959 actor themselves think of who would they like to see 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.679 try to play that character if it wasn't them, So 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.280 that's my question to you, UM, if if it wasn't 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.680 you playing Kevin? Hard to even think of anybody else 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.079 playing it? Who would you think you would like to see? 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.440 Or who you know? Maybe several people you would like 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:36.040 to see like Kevin? Thank you, bye, Hey, Steve, thank 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.360 you for your question. By the way, you hit the 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.480 triumvirent all right, you're a fan of the podcast, which 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.560 I can't thank you enough for. You now have the book. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.080 I hope you enjoy it. By the way, as I 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.800 speak right now, four weeks in a row on the 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.280 New York Times bestseller list. So I want to thank 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.480 not just you, but everybody who has supported the book. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.680 It's so exciting to me per personally that so many 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.960 people are are reading it, are reading what I wrote. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.320 And then of course cameo, thank you for your support 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.120 there as well. So who else would I like to 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:18.560 see play Kevin? George Clooney, I think would be my answer, 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.640 But I don't know, Steve, that's so difficult. But I 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.320 will tell you a story. I don't know if you 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:29.280 know this. When Steve Carrell left the show, we had 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.640 a big party and Alison Jones, are amazing casting director, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.199 came up to me and she said, well, you know, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.880 I was looking for some mementos to give Steve, you 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.040 know now that he's he's leaving. I didn't find something 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.719 that great, but I thought you would be interested in this. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.120 And it was a single sheet of paper with three names. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.960 It said Kevin Malone and then it was the three 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.160 actors that in the end they were considering for the role, 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.520 and it was myself, it was Eric stone Street, and 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.040 it was Jorge Garcia. Eric stone Street obviously went on 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:09.480 to Modern Family. Jorge Garcia went on to Lost, amongst 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.960 other things. Um, and I framed that piece of paper 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.280 and it is it is. It is in my office 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.160 because I think it's so cool and I'm such a 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:24.160 fan of both of them. So who knows? You could 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.959 have had Eric stone Street or Jorge Garcia as Kevin 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:33.240 Malone on the Office. Um, but that's who could have 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.240 done it. Who I want, who I would have wanted 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:42.240 to do it? Yeah, Yeah, George Clooney, Hello Office Deep Dive, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.560 And hello Brian, So good to talk to you. I'm 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.839 a huge fan of the podcast, obviously a huge fan 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.880 of the Office. My name is Kendrick, and I just 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.920 had a question that I've always been wondering ever since 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.760 listening to the podcast, and that question is how do 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.760 the actors and I guess anybody working on the set 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.880 de stress after stressful moments during filming? Because I bet 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.400 there was a lot of stressful times during filming the 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.439 show and moments that people would feel stressed, you know, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.760 including you or any other actor. And I just want 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.280 to know what your methods were, what other actors methods 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.160 are when these times are stressful. I mean, do you 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.880 just go to your trailer and meditate or do you 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.360 do exercise? Like what do you do on set there 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.040 when you start to feel stressed? Thank you so much, Kendrick, 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.760 great question, Thank you for listening. Look, I might be 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.960 a little different. I'll tell you this. How I d 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.880 stress in my normal life now is I play golf. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.720 There's been a lot of discussion about me and golf, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.720 and I play as much golf as I can. Unfortunately 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.400 it's not as much as I would like. But but 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.160 I always say that for the four hours or whatever 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:58.600 that I'm out there, for me, I become singularly focused 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.560 on one thing, which is getting the ball in the hole. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.240 That's what she said. I don't know that wasn't even intentional, um, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.720 but that's all I think about. So everything else that's 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.320 going on in work or in personal life or whatever else, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.120 it goes away for the time that I'm out there, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.320 and then as soon as I'm done, I'm sort of 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.120 back to it. So I tell you that because similarly, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.480 on the office, it wasn't about going and being alone 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.720 or meditating, because I think my feeble brain would just 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.480 ruminate on whatever was stressing me out. And and look, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:41.280 we were there twelve to fourteen hours a day for 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.400 five days, which is a long time, and it becomes 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.920 difficult to get anything else done. The fatigue sets in 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.200 at times because of our schedule. We were doing twelve 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.960 thirteen episodes in a row, which is very rare in television. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.880 It stresses everybody out. You know, you have to find 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.480 ops for the next episode, the writers have to keep 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.480 up with scripts. All of those things have to happen. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:10.360 But to answer your question, I played Madden Football. That's 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.880 what I did. I played John Madden Football with John 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:18.960 Krasinski over lunch. And that doesn't seem like a d stressor. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.560 But again for me, during that thirty minutes, thirty to 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:29.080 forty five minutes, my focus was just on beating John. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.960 That's it beating John and not there was nothing else 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.800 going on in my head. So there's your answer. John 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.840 Madden Football the greatest d stressor for this actor on 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.880 the Office. Try. Thank you so much for doing the 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.600 Office Deep Dive. It was fantastic hearing all the interviews, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.880 and I'm stoked to hear that you're coming out with 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.560 a new podcast. Well, the Office meant so much to 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.520 me because during my darkest times, with times when I 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.520 was feeling down, the Office was my happy place. I've 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.960 watched The Office all the way through, probably nine or 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.919 ten times. I got to the points where I've stopped counting. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.720 But the one funny story or a really interesting thing 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.119 that I really wanted to bring up is that for 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.920 my thirtieth birthday, the Dirty thirty, I had no idea 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.600 that this was happening, but I happened to be wearing 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.879 my dunder Mifflin T shirt and my wife brought me 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.560 over to my friend's house, who I thought was a 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.159 party for somebody else, and it turned out that it 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.320 was a surprise birthday party that was Office themed, had 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.600 the banner that says it is your birthday. All the 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:35.399 food was Office themed pizza, by Alfredo and all that stuff, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.200 you know, and it was fantastic. But the coolest thing, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.399 the icing on the cake, was that I had no 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.080 idea that cameo was a thing. And my wife said, hey, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.679 we've got something for you, and they turned on the 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.959 TV and it was a cameo video of you sending 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.879 me a birthday message. And I don't know, I'm getting 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.320 emotional thinking about it, but it was so cool. I 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.760 had no idea that that was happening. And just to uh, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.680 to see your face and tell me happy birthday, Happy 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.560 dirty thirty. That was fantastic and it really was a 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.199 highlight of my life, really and I just want to 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.560 say thank you for that. And um, I enjoy the podcast. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:19.359 Thanks Sam, thank you so much. It means a lot 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.000 for you to tell me that story. You know, people 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.560 ask me about the work I do on Cameo all 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:32.360 the time, and it's stories like that that that makes 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.680 me keep doing it. Um, I appreciate it. Look, I 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.280 what I try to do is is not making about me, 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.400 but it's it's about It's about you, Sam. It's it's 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:50.400 your birthday, it's your graduation, it's your wedding. And if 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.560 that brings you to a moment in time that you 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.280 remember the show, that you have fond memories about Kevin 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.000 Malone nor any of the other actors or scenes or 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.520 moments on the show. If that brings you to a 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.879 happy place, well, Sam, then I'm happy. So thanks for 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:15.080 telling me that story. 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All episodes of Next Question with Katie Couric 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.880 are available now. Listen on the I Heart Radio app, 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:33.919 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Brian, So, 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:40.680 I had a situation at work that arose the day 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.840 after I listened to your Part three episode with Greg Daniels, 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:52.080 and in that episode, Greg mentioned a situation that arose 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:59.520 when Chili's said they would not let you produce the 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:05.200 episode O if Pam was was drunk and intoxicated and 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.399 I guess threw up in the episode. They said they 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:12.199 would not let you produce that episode, and um, Greg 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:17.040 turned to Steve, and Steve basically figured it out as 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:21.280 a creative improv person. He said, Okay, we can do this, 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:25.320 we can figure this out. So at my job, I 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.800 am a theater artist and actually a dance teacher and 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.200 a theater artist. And so we are putting together a 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.520 dance concert for the weekend and we get some props 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.760 from our technical director that just don't work, and we 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.159 have a couple of days before the show opens and 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.880 not a lot of time to rehearse with them. So 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.680 I was starting to get very frustrated, and instead of 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:53.399 letting myself get super frustrated, that that episode just clicked 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.040 into my brain. It's like I had just listened to 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.920 it and it went I thought, be Steve Carrell in 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.440 this moment, figure out how to make this work? How 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.399 can you make this work? So I said that out loud. 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.639 I said, Okay, guys, we have to go with the 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.800 flow here. How can we make this work? And so 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.800 my students and I came up with an option that 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:22.119 actually worked better than our original option. We we modified 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.280 the props ourselves, and we made it work. So I 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.600 wanted to thank you for that interview, and the whole podcast, 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.320 of course, is just amazing. I listened to it all 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:36.240 the time, but that interview especially just made me a 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.760 little less stressed that day. So I appreciate it, and 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:44.000 I'm going to carry that with me. Thanks, Alyssa, between 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.080 you and I and everybody listening, we could all be 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:52.400 a little bit more like Steve Carrell every day and 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:56.440 we'd be we'd be better off to remind people or 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.520 let people know what Alyssa's talking about. Yes, were two 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:07.360 three days into full production, days from shooting the first 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.639 Dundee's episode at Chili's. The script had been written, the 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.320 script was not altered, but there were some executives from 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:19.720 Chili's who were there and did not like Pam getting 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:24.120 drunk at Chili's and basically we're told you can't do that, 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:29.280 And the entire episode, of course, with Pam getting a 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:35.840 little tipsy and eventually kissing Jim, was a central central 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:41.080 part of that episode. So yeah, Steve in the moment said, okay, 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.359 let's absolve Chili's. Let's shoot a couple of times where 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:49.600 she's not over served, but where she's stealing drinks, and 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.960 let's have her be banned for life for doing that. 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.240 And that ended up appeasing the good folks at Chili's, 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.639 and um, obviously we ended up going to chile Is 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.520 a couple of more times throughout the run of the show, 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.199 so that all worked out yeah, you know, listen, Steve 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:11.560 is to me the greatest improviser of all time. And 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.640 that's why right there he does it when he's acting, 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:24.320 his creative mind is always on story, in character and 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.840 and better than what anyone else can come up with. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:32.720 And yeah, he saved that episode for sure, So I'm 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.240 glad you were able to use that lesson. And I 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.080 said it as a joke, but I really mean it. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.360