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Speaker 1: now named it, Welcome to another episode of the Office
Speaker 1: Deep Dive. As always, it's me, that's right, your host,
Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner, coming at you with a very special end
Speaker 1: of the year edition of the podcast. Because we did it, guys,
Speaker 1: we made it through another year, and as a new
Speaker 1: Year's treat today, I've got another call in episode lined
Speaker 1: up for you, because look, I'll admit it, I can't
Speaker 1: get enough of you. That's what she said. Uh, but
Speaker 1: I mean that truly. It has been so incredible to
Speaker 1: hear from you and talk to you. So thank you
Speaker 1: all of you who reached out. We got so many calls.
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to connect with us.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm just gonna go right into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I would like to welcome right now you my listeners,
Speaker 1: to the very last episode of one an episode starring
Speaker 1: well you. So let's see who do we have calling
Speaker 1: in today? Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and
Speaker 1: Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every month, left
Speaker 1: over from the night before. How's it going, Brian? Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me on this show. This is very nice.
Speaker 1: It's lovely to see you. Anyways, I have a question
Speaker 1: about Kevin here. Throughout the whole show, Kevin got way dumber.
Speaker 1: You know, in the first one episode, not one episodes,
Speaker 1: one season, second season he was stupid, yes, slow, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he seemed to morph into this borderline mentally disabled person.
Speaker 1: And and I was just curious because that you not
Speaker 1: you call it out, but what Oscar and Angela called
Speaker 1: out when you're talking with the you know, why use
Speaker 1: big word when small word d trick? You know, he's
Speaker 1: gotten worse over the years. But I was just curious
Speaker 1: if that is it was an intentional thing done by
Speaker 1: either you or the writing staff, or if it just
Speaker 1: morphed over the nine years that you guys were on
Speaker 1: air into that, and if that was a conscious decision
Speaker 1: that you made to make him done more slowly, or
Speaker 1: if it just you kind of got more into the
Speaker 1: character as a story went on, and that was actually
Speaker 1: how the character was supposed to be played the entire time.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, thanks for having me on almost shake your hand, now,
Speaker 1: shake Jake, Jake, We just shook hands. Can you believe it? Mom?
Speaker 1: All right bye, we just shook hands. Nick. Thank you
Speaker 1: for your question. Look, this has been brought up a lot,
Speaker 1: especially if you go onto the deep dark web that
Speaker 1: is read it um. The original character description of Kevin
Speaker 1: when they were casting. The casting notice said, the only
Speaker 1: thing remarkable about Kevin is that he is remarkably unremarkable.
Speaker 1: So that's where we started from, and I think we
Speaker 1: found over time that there were, in fact some remarkable
Speaker 1: things about Kevin. So yes, Kevin morphs. Really it was
Speaker 1: the writing the writer's fell in love with, let's just
Speaker 1: call it Kevin's childlike sensibility. And so my nerdy I've
Speaker 1: talked about this before, but my nerdy actory justification for
Speaker 1: this was when the camera crew. When the documentary crew
Speaker 1: began to film dunder Mifflin, Kevin was very nervous and
Speaker 1: much more reserved. And then as he became more comfortable
Speaker 1: with the cameras being in the office, maybe he went
Speaker 1: out with a beer or two with some of the
Speaker 1: crew guys, more of his true personality came out. Now
Speaker 1: that's my justification. I think the reality was the writer's
Speaker 1: fell in love with that sort of childlike sensibility and
Speaker 1: leaned into it. Also, Kevin was used as one of
Speaker 1: the characters for physical comedy, which has a tendency to
Speaker 1: let's just say dumb up a character. Uh. And in fact,
Speaker 1: when Steve Carrell left, I was told by Paul Lieberstein
Speaker 1: and some of the other writers that they were going
Speaker 1: to even more lean into Kevin and physical comedy because
Speaker 1: Steve Carrell was gone, who was helming a lot of
Speaker 1: the physical comedy. So there's the answer. Nick. It wasn't
Speaker 1: really conscious, but it did evolve because of how the
Speaker 1: writers were writing the role. So he started as remarkably
Speaker 1: unremarkable and I think he ended, um, well, something quite different.
Speaker 1: But thanks Nick, and here's here's your handshake back. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 1: my name is Randy. I live in Santa Rosa, California.
Speaker 1: Big fan of the Office. Of course, I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you my three grandsons are also their ages twelve, fifteen,
Speaker 1: and eighteen. They also love the show. And Um, I
Speaker 1: was wondering how many takes typical scene would would be done,
Speaker 1: and I guess it would depend on the different directors. Um,
Speaker 1: there seems to be so much going on in a scene,
Speaker 1: so many different people involved in a given scene, that
Speaker 1: to do very many takes would be kind of hard.
Speaker 1: So what would you say the average number of takes
Speaker 1: was from scene? Well, thanks, Randy, And let me tell
Speaker 1: you on a personal note, the fact that you're a
Speaker 1: grandfather and you're a fan of the show, and you
Speaker 1: have grandkids that are fans of the show. I think
Speaker 1: that is well to quote Kevin awesome. You know, that's
Speaker 1: an impossible question to answer. It really depended upon the
Speaker 1: complexity of the scene. And as you said, the number
Speaker 1: of people, and actually the number of people that were
Speaker 1: in a scene increased the number of takes that would
Speaker 1: be required to shoot it because they needed to make
Speaker 1: sure that everybody was covered. Um. Largely it depended on
Speaker 1: two factors. One, how many takes were lost because people
Speaker 1: were laughing. That is just that is just the truth.
Speaker 1: And I my mind goes to the conference room scenes
Speaker 1: and Steve Correll, Michael Scott at the front scenes like
Speaker 1: prison Mike, those were incredibly difficult. The more improv that
Speaker 1: he and others did that caught the rest of us
Speaker 1: off balance. The smiles and the laughs came. So that
Speaker 1: was one and to how much improv was done. So
Speaker 1: because we were shooting the show for NBC, mega conglomerate corporation,
Speaker 1: you know, everything we said had to be approved. So
Speaker 1: the script as written was always shot because if it
Speaker 1: if it wasn't on the page, we may not get
Speaker 1: approval for it, and then we would be in trouble.
Speaker 1: So everything as written was shot because it was had
Speaker 1: been approved by the network and this band of people
Speaker 1: called standards and practices which ensure that nothing naughty gets
Speaker 1: on the air, or at least not too naughty. Um.
Speaker 1: But then we were always every scene we were given
Speaker 1: a free pass, a pass to play and improv. And
Speaker 1: depending on how successful the scene was working, depending on
Speaker 1: how successful actors were able to improvise or writers were
Speaker 1: able to pitch new jokes, the scene would happen more.
Speaker 1: But you know, because of that, that's why on the
Speaker 1: DVD s and now on Peacock, there are so many
Speaker 1: additional scenes that were that were cut. Our first assembly
Speaker 1: they called it was about forty five minutes, and when
Speaker 1: you think about running time on NBC, that was twenty
Speaker 1: two minutes. So on average we had a double episode
Speaker 1: shot and then they had to cut it down to
Speaker 1: twenty two. I know that's not an answer, Randy exactly
Speaker 1: how many takes? Just remember this the chili scene. One take.
Speaker 1: That's really all you need to know. Hi, Brian, this
Speaker 1: is Steve Schrader listening to your podcast today. I heard about,
Speaker 1: um your request here from listeners, So this is my
Speaker 1: first I'd like to say, I guess is one. UM.
Speaker 1: I love your podcast, big fan, obviously, big fan of
Speaker 1: the Office. UM you were also I've already pre um
Speaker 1: bought the book, re ordered the book, and UM, you're
Speaker 1: kind of enough to do a cameo for my wife
Speaker 1: for her birthday, I want to say, a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago now, UM with chili, So thank you. So
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. UM my question is to you,
Speaker 1: and there is no certainly no one besides you that
Speaker 1: could play Kevin. But I'm always interested in what the
Speaker 1: actor themselves think of who would they like to see
Speaker 1: try to play that character if it wasn't them, So
Speaker 1: that's my question to you, UM, if if it wasn't
Speaker 1: you playing Kevin? Hard to even think of anybody else
Speaker 1: playing it? Who would you think you would like to see?
Speaker 1: Or who you know? Maybe several people you would like
Speaker 1: to see like Kevin? Thank you, bye, Hey, Steve, thank
Speaker 1: you for your question. By the way, you hit the
Speaker 1: triumvirent all right, you're a fan of the podcast, which
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for. You now have the book.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. By the way, as I
Speaker 1: speak right now, four weeks in a row on the
Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller list. So I want to thank
Speaker 1: not just you, but everybody who has supported the book.
Speaker 1: It's so exciting to me per personally that so many
Speaker 1: people are are reading it, are reading what I wrote.
Speaker 1: And then of course cameo, thank you for your support
Speaker 1: there as well. So who else would I like to
Speaker 1: see play Kevin? George Clooney, I think would be my answer,
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Steve, that's so difficult. But I
Speaker 1: will tell you a story. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this. When Steve Carrell left the show, we had
Speaker 1: a big party and Alison Jones, are amazing casting director,
Speaker 1: came up to me and she said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was looking for some mementos to give Steve, you
Speaker 1: know now that he's he's leaving. I didn't find something
Speaker 1: that great, but I thought you would be interested in this.
Speaker 1: And it was a single sheet of paper with three names.
Speaker 1: It said Kevin Malone and then it was the three
Speaker 1: actors that in the end they were considering for the role,
Speaker 1: and it was myself, it was Eric stone Street, and
Speaker 1: it was Jorge Garcia. Eric stone Street obviously went on
Speaker 1: to Modern Family. Jorge Garcia went on to Lost, amongst
Speaker 1: other things. Um, and I framed that piece of paper
Speaker 1: and it is it is. It is in my office
Speaker 1: because I think it's so cool and I'm such a
Speaker 1: fan of both of them. So who knows? You could
Speaker 1: have had Eric stone Street or Jorge Garcia as Kevin
Speaker 1: Malone on the Office. Um, but that's who could have
Speaker 1: done it. Who I want, who I would have wanted
Speaker 1: to do it? Yeah, Yeah, George Clooney, Hello Office Deep Dive,
Speaker 1: And hello Brian, So good to talk to you. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the podcast, obviously a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the Office. My name is Kendrick, and I just
Speaker 1: had a question that I've always been wondering ever since
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, and that question is how do
Speaker 1: the actors and I guess anybody working on the set
Speaker 1: de stress after stressful moments during filming? Because I bet
Speaker 1: there was a lot of stressful times during filming the
Speaker 1: show and moments that people would feel stressed, you know,
Speaker 1: including you or any other actor. And I just want
Speaker 1: to know what your methods were, what other actors methods
Speaker 1: are when these times are stressful. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: just go to your trailer and meditate or do you
Speaker 1: do exercise? Like what do you do on set there
Speaker 1: when you start to feel stressed? Thank you so much, Kendrick,
Speaker 1: great question, Thank you for listening. Look, I might be
Speaker 1: a little different. I'll tell you this. How I d
Speaker 1: stress in my normal life now is I play golf.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion about me and golf,
Speaker 1: and I play as much golf as I can. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it's not as much as I would like. But but
Speaker 1: I always say that for the four hours or whatever
Speaker 1: that I'm out there, for me, I become singularly focused
Speaker 1: on one thing, which is getting the ball in the hole.
Speaker 1: That's what she said. I don't know that wasn't even intentional, um,
Speaker 1: but that's all I think about. So everything else that's
Speaker 1: going on in work or in personal life or whatever else,
Speaker 1: it goes away for the time that I'm out there,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as I'm done, I'm sort of
Speaker 1: back to it. So I tell you that because similarly,
Speaker 1: on the office, it wasn't about going and being alone
Speaker 1: or meditating, because I think my feeble brain would just
Speaker 1: ruminate on whatever was stressing me out. And and look,
Speaker 1: we were there twelve to fourteen hours a day for
Speaker 1: five days, which is a long time, and it becomes
Speaker 1: difficult to get anything else done. The fatigue sets in
Speaker 1: at times because of our schedule. We were doing twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen episodes in a row, which is very rare in television.
Speaker 1: It stresses everybody out. You know, you have to find
Speaker 1: ops for the next episode, the writers have to keep
Speaker 1: up with scripts. All of those things have to happen.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I played Madden Football. That's
Speaker 1: what I did. I played John Madden Football with John
Speaker 1: Krasinski over lunch. And that doesn't seem like a d stressor.
Speaker 1: But again for me, during that thirty minutes, thirty to
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, my focus was just on beating John.
Speaker 1: That's it beating John and not there was nothing else
Speaker 1: going on in my head. So there's your answer. John
Speaker 1: Madden Football the greatest d stressor for this actor on
Speaker 1: the Office. Try. Thank you so much for doing the
Speaker 1: Office Deep Dive. It was fantastic hearing all the interviews,
Speaker 1: and I'm stoked to hear that you're coming out with
Speaker 1: a new podcast. Well, the Office meant so much to
Speaker 1: me because during my darkest times, with times when I
Speaker 1: was feeling down, the Office was my happy place. I've
Speaker 1: watched The Office all the way through, probably nine or
Speaker 1: ten times. I got to the points where I've stopped counting.
Speaker 1: But the one funny story or a really interesting thing
Speaker 1: that I really wanted to bring up is that for
Speaker 1: my thirtieth birthday, the Dirty thirty, I had no idea
Speaker 1: that this was happening, but I happened to be wearing
Speaker 1: my dunder Mifflin T shirt and my wife brought me
Speaker 1: over to my friend's house, who I thought was a
Speaker 1: party for somebody else, and it turned out that it
Speaker 1: was a surprise birthday party that was Office themed, had
Speaker 1: the banner that says it is your birthday. All the
Speaker 1: food was Office themed pizza, by Alfredo and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was fantastic. But the coolest thing,
Speaker 1: the icing on the cake, was that I had no
Speaker 1: idea that cameo was a thing. And my wife said, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got something for you, and they turned on the
Speaker 1: TV and it was a cameo video of you sending
Speaker 1: me a birthday message. And I don't know, I'm getting
Speaker 1: emotional thinking about it, but it was so cool. I
Speaker 1: had no idea that that was happening. And just to uh,
Speaker 1: to see your face and tell me happy birthday, Happy
Speaker 1: dirty thirty. That was fantastic and it really was a
Speaker 1: highlight of my life, really and I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you for that. And um, I enjoy the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks Sam, thank you so much. It means a lot
Speaker 1: for you to tell me that story. You know, people
Speaker 1: ask me about the work I do on Cameo all
Speaker 1: the time, and it's stories like that that that makes
Speaker 1: me keep doing it. Um, I appreciate it. Look, I
Speaker 1: what I try to do is is not making about me,
Speaker 1: but it's it's about It's about you, Sam. It's it's
Speaker 1: your birthday, it's your graduation, it's your wedding. And if
Speaker 1: that brings you to a moment in time that you
Speaker 1: remember the show, that you have fond memories about Kevin
Speaker 1: Malone nor any of the other actors or scenes or
Speaker 1: moments on the show. If that brings you to a
Speaker 1: happy place, well, Sam, then I'm happy. So thanks for
Speaker 1: telling me that story. My best to you, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening. And yeah, we're gonna We're
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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Brian, So,
Speaker 1: I had a situation at work that arose the day
Speaker 1: after I listened to your Part three episode with Greg Daniels,
Speaker 1: and in that episode, Greg mentioned a situation that arose
Speaker 1: when Chili's said they would not let you produce the
Speaker 1: episode O if Pam was was drunk and intoxicated and
Speaker 1: I guess threw up in the episode. They said they
Speaker 1: would not let you produce that episode, and um, Greg
Speaker 1: turned to Steve, and Steve basically figured it out as
Speaker 1: a creative improv person. He said, Okay, we can do this,
Speaker 1: we can figure this out. So at my job, I
Speaker 1: am a theater artist and actually a dance teacher and
Speaker 1: a theater artist. And so we are putting together a
Speaker 1: dance concert for the weekend and we get some props
Speaker 1: from our technical director that just don't work, and we
Speaker 1: have a couple of days before the show opens and
Speaker 1: not a lot of time to rehearse with them. So
Speaker 1: I was starting to get very frustrated, and instead of
Speaker 1: letting myself get super frustrated, that that episode just clicked
Speaker 1: into my brain. It's like I had just listened to
Speaker 1: it and it went I thought, be Steve Carrell in
Speaker 1: this moment, figure out how to make this work? How
Speaker 1: can you make this work? So I said that out loud.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, guys, we have to go with the
Speaker 1: flow here. How can we make this work? And so
Speaker 1: my students and I came up with an option that
Speaker 1: actually worked better than our original option. We we modified
Speaker 1: the props ourselves, and we made it work. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to thank you for that interview, and the whole podcast,
Speaker 1: of course, is just amazing. I listened to it all
Speaker 1: the time, but that interview especially just made me a
Speaker 1: little less stressed that day. So I appreciate it, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to carry that with me. Thanks, Alyssa, between
Speaker 1: you and I and everybody listening, we could all be
Speaker 1: a little bit more like Steve Carrell every day and
Speaker 1: we'd be we'd be better off to remind people or
Speaker 1: let people know what Alyssa's talking about. Yes, were two
Speaker 1: three days into full production, days from shooting the first
Speaker 1: Dundee's episode at Chili's. The script had been written, the
Speaker 1: script was not altered, but there were some executives from
Speaker 1: Chili's who were there and did not like Pam getting
Speaker 1: drunk at Chili's and basically we're told you can't do that,
Speaker 1: And the entire episode, of course, with Pam getting a
Speaker 1: little tipsy and eventually kissing Jim, was a central central
Speaker 1: part of that episode. So yeah, Steve in the moment said, okay,
Speaker 1: let's absolve Chili's. Let's shoot a couple of times where
Speaker 1: she's not over served, but where she's stealing drinks, and
Speaker 1: let's have her be banned for life for doing that.
Speaker 1: And that ended up appeasing the good folks at Chili's,
Speaker 1: and um, obviously we ended up going to chile Is
Speaker 1: a couple of more times throughout the run of the show,
Speaker 1: so that all worked out yeah, you know, listen, Steve
Speaker 1: is to me the greatest improviser of all time. And
Speaker 1: that's why right there he does it when he's acting,
Speaker 1: his creative mind is always on story, in character and
Speaker 1: and better than what anyone else can come up with.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he saved that episode for sure, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad you were able to use that lesson. And I
Speaker 1: said it as a joke, but I really mean it.
Speaker 1: Watching Steve Correll, if you're an artistic person do what
Speaker 1: he does will make you a better artist or creative thinker.
Speaker 1: There is absolutely no doubt about that. Hi, Brian, this
Speaker 1: is Tom Elliott Oven UK with some thoughts for your
Speaker 1: listener feedback show. Now, you always ask your guests why
Speaker 1: they think that The Office is more popular now than ever,
Speaker 1: and I can't answer that question for the US, but
Speaker 1: I can maybe answer that question for a section of
Speaker 1: that audience over here in the UK, because my experience
Speaker 1: with becoming a fan of your show is an experience
Speaker 1: that I've had echoed over and over again by other
Speaker 1: British people in the last year or two. Because the
Speaker 1: UK version of the Office, it was a game changer
Speaker 1: over here, you know, it really changed the face of
Speaker 1: British comedy and pretty much everyone loved that show. So
Speaker 1: when I heard that there was going to be a
Speaker 1: US version, I, like a lot of other people over here,
Speaker 1: rolled my eyes and thought, oh, here we go. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't have high hopes for it, so I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting good things, but I thought, you know what, I'll
Speaker 1: watch the pilot and see how they do. And then
Speaker 1: I watched the pilot. Now I learned on your podcast
Speaker 1: why Greg chose to remake the British pilot to stop
Speaker 1: the network given notes. But unfortunately, as a British viewer
Speaker 1: watching one of our crown jewels of television being remade
Speaker 1: in that way, it instantly turned me off because no
Speaker 1: disrespect to anyone involved, but I think when something was
Speaker 1: so seminal and so perfectly done the first time round,
Speaker 1: whoever tries to then recreate that just as a huge
Speaker 1: mountain to climb in terms of winning an audience over,
Speaker 1: no matter how talented they are. So I, like a
Speaker 1: lot of my compatriots, turned off the American office at
Speaker 1: that point and didn't look back, and then promptly just
Speaker 1: forgot about it. So one day I put Netflix on
Speaker 1: my TV and I see that they've put the American
Speaker 1: Office on there, and I noticed that there's nine seasons,
Speaker 1: and I'm asking myself, how could they have made nine
Speaker 1: seasons of this thing? How is that even possible? But
Speaker 1: also my curiosity has peaked at this point because, as
Speaker 1: you know, the British show has twelve episodes and two specials,
Speaker 1: So what could they have been doing for nine years
Speaker 1: on the U S show? I guess they must have
Speaker 1: been doing something right. So I watched the pilot again,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was what it was, But it
Speaker 1: also been twenty years now since the UK Office, so
Speaker 1: I'm a little less precious about it, and I decided
Speaker 1: to just carry on. And I find that the fair
Speaker 1: that out I get from that pilot, the more and
Speaker 1: warm into this show and these characters. And now it
Speaker 1: wasn't so much about making a negative comparison to the
Speaker 1: British show. It was actually interesting to see where you
Speaker 1: guys would take it, to see your show evolve and
Speaker 1: take on its own identity until we're actually at the
Speaker 1: point where each version justifies its own existence because they
Speaker 1: are the same but different. But that original question, why
Speaker 1: is the American Office more popular now than ever? And
Speaker 1: as your guests have said there are many, many reasons
Speaker 1: for that, but I think from my corner of the world,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it's popular here now is
Speaker 1: that we almost had to forget about it two then
Speaker 1: rediscover it, and I guess we also had to get
Speaker 1: over ourselves a bit as well, because the existence of
Speaker 1: one takes nothing away from the other. And instead of
Speaker 1: having one classic show in the British version, we now
Speaker 1: have two classic shows because the American version is a
Speaker 1: classic too, so everybody wins. There's just there's just more
Speaker 1: of it to love now, and what's wrong with that,
Speaker 1: you know? So anyway, that's my thoughts on it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for a great show, Brian, and I look forward to
Speaker 1: many more episodes to come. Tom thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your thought for comments. Truly, I wish I had
Speaker 1: interviewed you before the book came out, and before that
Speaker 1: I did all of these interviews for the podcast. You're very,
Speaker 1: very insightful, you know. Look, we've talked about it quite
Speaker 1: a bit, but I think what you say is probably
Speaker 1: a spot on. I mean, you cannot believe and those
Speaker 1: of you who we're not watching the show are aware
Speaker 1: of what was going on back in two thousand four five.
Speaker 1: Maybe you weren't born yet. The amount of hate and
Speaker 1: vitriol for our show and the fact that it even existed.
Speaker 1: I mean not to bring up the sexiest man alive,
Speaker 1: Paul Rudd, but yes, Steve told me that when he
Speaker 1: told Paul he was coming in to read for it,
Speaker 1: Paul said, don't do it. Don't do it, and that's
Speaker 1: that wasn't rare. I mean, now it seems silly, but
Speaker 1: at the time there were people who would not do
Speaker 1: the show because of the British version and how loved
Speaker 1: and beloved it had become, not just in the UK,
Speaker 1: but over here in the States by the time our
Speaker 1: show was on the air. So I think it's very
Speaker 1: interesting Tom that that you talk about that distance. And
Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting your response to to the
Speaker 1: pilot episode, and that makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1: You know, now I go on a variety television show
Speaker 1: or you know, some program. It happened this week. Actually
Speaker 1: for me, I appeared on a show and so often
Speaker 1: people want me to recreate a scene from the office,
Speaker 1: and what I say to them is no, no, we
Speaker 1: we can't do that. What we what we have to
Speaker 1: do is if you want to nod towards it, let's
Speaker 1: nod lightly. People will get the joke, but let's do
Speaker 1: our own interpretation of that joke, be it sitting on
Speaker 1: Santa's lap or spilling chillle. For me to attempt to
Speaker 1: recreate that moment that exists is always going to pale
Speaker 1: in comparison, and so I think it's very interesting what
Speaker 1: you say, being so familiar, being such a huge fan
Speaker 1: in the UK of the British version to see us,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, try to just imitate that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure for you it would pale in comparison. So
Speaker 1: thank you for your comments. I still haven't discovered quite
Speaker 1: the reason why I think we've got a lot of
Speaker 1: great answers. It's probably a combination of many things, but
Speaker 1: your perspective from the folks in the UK are very
Speaker 1: very interesting. So thanks Tom for your comments and and
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Hey, Brian, my name
Speaker 1: is Selmia from New York City. I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the podcast, and I have to say that during
Speaker 1: the pandemic and during work from home, I'm pretty much
Speaker 1: have the office on in the background while I'm doing work.
Speaker 1: So in many ways, I feel like I work at
Speaker 1: dunder Mifflin. UM. I wanted to shout out the episodes
Speaker 1: you had with the hair and makeup team. I thought
Speaker 1: that was such a unique perspective and it was great
Speaker 1: to hear from some really empowering female voices that the
Speaker 1: fans don't get to hear from a lot. So I
Speaker 1: thought their stories were really touching and it's great to
Speaker 1: see how close they were with the cast. UM. My
Speaker 1: question for you is what's kind of next for this podcast?
Speaker 1: I know a lot of these interviews are going to
Speaker 1: be featured in your upcoming book. UM, but now that
Speaker 1: the book is coming out, like, what's next do you
Speaker 1: see the podcast continuing? Are you going to pivot into
Speaker 1: something else? Um? I know you have that sweet sweet
Speaker 1: cameo money, so you know you don't really need the
Speaker 1: day job. But what's kind of next for you? And
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Malone in two thanks so much. Hey, SEMMYA,
Speaker 1: thank you so much shouting me out from New York City,
Speaker 1: which I've been in a lot recently, so it's becoming
Speaker 1: my second home. In fact, thanks for your comments about Laverne,
Speaker 1: Debbie Kim, the hair and makeup people. They were some
Speaker 1: of my favorite conversations. And you know, look the hours
Speaker 1: that we spent together and the intense times that we had.
Speaker 1: As as they said they were, they were part therapist,
Speaker 1: part part confidante, part everything. It was great to be
Speaker 1: able to sit down and spend some time with them
Speaker 1: and hear their perspective on the show. What's next for two, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's simple. Off the Beat a
Speaker 1: new podcast right here. You can still find it right
Speaker 1: here on the Office Deep Dive feed. But as you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked to so many folks from the Office, and
Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk to some more. But really we're
Speaker 1: going to expand and talk about television, all of television,
Speaker 1: other shows in television Class six shows will start with
Speaker 1: some folks who had appearances on the Office, but focus
Speaker 1: on some of their other work. I'm interested in focusing
Speaker 1: on the moments that happened off the Beat, not the
Speaker 1: moments that everyone else has heard about two and fifty
Speaker 1: seven thousand times, but moments in their career or on
Speaker 1: their shows that we haven't heard about before. Because as
Speaker 1: a French director I once worked with told me that
Speaker 1: comedy happens off the beat. It's the unexpected moments that
Speaker 1: are often the most pleasurable and the most important. So
Speaker 1: we will be back right here, same bat channel, same
Speaker 1: bad time. I guess there's no time in podcasts, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep talking to folks in television and maybe
Speaker 1: some sports as well about the moments that happened for
Speaker 1: these people that you know and love that well maybe
Speaker 1: you've never heard before. Gree is Mr Bumgarner. My name
Speaker 1: is Marcus and I am a longtime fan of the Office.
Speaker 1: I actually stumbled across the show because when it was premiered,
Speaker 1: I already had the habit of watching must must sy
Speaker 1: TV on Thursdays back since Seinfeld was on, so I
Speaker 1: was a mediate fan. But one thing to do is
Speaker 1: you often ask your guests what makes The Office even
Speaker 1: more popular today than it was back then when it
Speaker 1: originally aired. Well, I was one of those people who
Speaker 1: bought the seasons on iTunes when they dropped back into
Speaker 1: two thousand's. I was in the U. S. Navy and
Speaker 1: I was in and out of the country quite a lot.
Speaker 1: I did miss big chunks of some of the earliest seasons,
Speaker 1: so I would often binge them over and over again
Speaker 1: on my laptop or or whatever I had access to.
Speaker 1: But even more important, when I was deployed to Iraq
Speaker 1: and Afghanistan multiple times between two thousand seven and two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, I didn't have reliable internet and streaming wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing. Um, I didn't have Netflix streaming anything like that,
Speaker 1: and I'd watch entire seasons on my laptop straight through,
Speaker 1: just from start to beginning, and then repeat every time
Speaker 1: I wasn't actually working. Imagine a dark tent, some dusty place, dirty, hot,
Speaker 1: miserable me lying on a cot, you know, or sometimes
Speaker 1: just a piece of plywood tucked in my sleeping bag,
Speaker 1: laptop resting all my stomach, headphones on, so hopefully I
Speaker 1: went and disturbed my neighbors sleeping only a few feet away,
Speaker 1: you know, watching Brian go for the records stuffing Eminem's
Speaker 1: in his mouth, or Stanley yelling. Did I stutter at
Speaker 1: Michael or Pam holding her first art show. I can't
Speaker 1: count how many times I stifled a tear or I'll
Speaker 1: definitely a laugh to not again not wake up the
Speaker 1: person next to me. But also, you know, watching these
Speaker 1: shows actually kept me saying, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with that whole. I think you've talked
Speaker 1: about a lot that office environment that just normal people.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to fill was normal. So thank
Speaker 1: you forgive us a peep behind the curtain through your podcast.
Speaker 1: And I have to admit your sibling podcasts as well,
Speaker 1: Office Ladies. Both of your shows have really introduced us
Speaker 1: to all the creative masterminds that came together like a
Speaker 1: perfect chilly recipe to make the office. Before I go,
Speaker 1: I wanted to say the two of my favorite episodes
Speaker 1: of yours where the conversations with Ben Silverman and the
Speaker 1: one especially with Debbie Pierce and Kim Ferry. Both are
Speaker 1: examples of how deep you really dove. Mr Silverman haven't
Speaker 1: been there at the beginning, and it was really great
Speaker 1: to hear his side of the story and how things
Speaker 1: really came together. But even more where else and who
Speaker 1: else would give equal time to make up and hair.
Speaker 1: I would just love to learn how their department was
Speaker 1: organized and the challenges they face, as well as their
Speaker 1: personal stories. You are a fantastic human being for sharing
Speaker 1: them with us. Thank you, sir, and I look forward
Speaker 1: to your next chapter. Marcus, you horror fantastic human being.
Speaker 1: Thank you one for your service. It's incredible to me
Speaker 1: knowing you were stationed abroad Iraq, Afghanistan fighting for all
Speaker 1: of us back home. And the visual image you paint
Speaker 1: of lying there on your cot in a hot and
Speaker 1: dusty place getting some degree of joy out of our show,
Speaker 1: it is moving to me. It is incre incredible. It
Speaker 1: makes me so incredibly humbled and grateful to have been
Speaker 1: a part of a show that was able to give you,
Speaker 1: specifically Marcus, a respite for what you were, what you
Speaker 1: were enduring at that time. So thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your call. And yeah, Ben Silverman is the man,
Speaker 1: there is no doubt about that. But you know what,
Speaker 1: Debbie Pierce is the man, and Kim Ferry and Laverne
Speaker 1: Karacus Milazzo and everyone was important. And that is what
Speaker 1: we have tried to show on this show, what we
Speaker 1: wanted to have you experience. All of the good people
Speaker 1: in every position down the line. Everybody had a part
Speaker 1: to play. And so thank you. The fact that those
Speaker 1: two episodes are what you called out. I love that.
Speaker 1: That gives me such incredible joy you can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: So Marcus, God bless you. Thank you again, and uh
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening. And keep listening. And by the way,
Speaker 1: whenever we do this again, Marcus, you have the bat
Speaker 1: phone whenever you want to call if you have anything
Speaker 1: to say. Uh, you're on my friend. God bless and
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Speaker 1: and Teen, I really love your show and look forward
Speaker 1: to it every week. In listening to the Ed Helms
Speaker 1: Part two episode, he mentioned that the most common question
Speaker 1: he gets about The Office is why he thinks the
Speaker 1: show is so popular with kids and young people. His
Speaker 1: response was to ask them, I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you could do an episode where you
Speaker 1: talk to young fans about the show and explore why
Speaker 1: they like it so much and why it resonates with them.
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing the podcast. Well, well, well ask and
Speaker 1: you shall receive. Thank you, Elizabeth. Honestly, so many of
Speaker 1: you called in to talk about just that why the
Speaker 1: Office resonates so much with young people, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: it warms my heart that the question that I asked
Speaker 1: so many of my guests is one that you all
Speaker 1: have thought about too, So I guess, um, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a little taste of some of the
Speaker 1: theories that came my way. Brian bom Gardener, Oh my goodness, hello,
Speaker 1: everybody at the Office Deep Dive Team. I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: teenager and you often ask your guests on the show
Speaker 1: why they think young people watch it. I feel like,
Speaker 1: not only is it an obviously an amazing comedy with
Speaker 1: jokes that hold up, but I feel like it is
Speaker 1: set up like the lives that the current kids today live.
Speaker 1: Children today constantly have cameras in their faces and are
Speaker 1: talking to cameras um and I feel like The Office
Speaker 1: is relatable to their generation. For this, it almost runs
Speaker 1: like a YouTube show where you have so many doing
Speaker 1: silly things and then performing for a camera, which is
Speaker 1: also what kids, I feel like, deal with in their
Speaker 1: own homes. It's medicine. There are so many times that
Speaker 1: I've watched The Office when I've needed a laugh, or
Speaker 1: I have anxiety, or I'm sick, or there's just nothing
Speaker 1: else that sounds good on TV. I have been watching
Speaker 1: The Office since I was six years old. The Office
Speaker 1: has meant so much to me um over the years.
Speaker 1: Any time that I was going through something really hard
Speaker 1: and I could not bring myself to smile, I could
Speaker 1: always put on the Office and it was just so
Speaker 1: familiar and comforting and safe and pleasant. And even moments
Speaker 1: where I was in deep depression shin or sadness or
Speaker 1: pain and nothing could make me smile, I could sit
Speaker 1: down and watch The Office and get at least one
Speaker 1: little grin out of me. And I think it's because
Speaker 1: it's so real. A lot of these times these days,
Speaker 1: people just want that real connection. It's hard to find
Speaker 1: that with social media and everything, and the Office They're
Speaker 1: just they're just real people, and people really connect to
Speaker 1: that and also like really romanticize his office life the show.
Speaker 1: It does. I feel like I didn't picture myself working
Speaker 1: in office before, but now I do, But even I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know what I would do with that office.
Speaker 1: I just pictured myself. They're just because of the office.
Speaker 1: I think that kids are whatever varying age, identify with
Speaker 1: that because it's kind of like what growing up is
Speaker 1: like that you don't always have a say in what
Speaker 1: you're subjected to, and you don't always have control over
Speaker 1: your life, and you feel like even how if it
Speaker 1: right or wrong, who knows, but that you you just
Speaker 1: know you're ryan what you want and need in that
Speaker 1: moment is right, and that you can't help the situation
Speaker 1: the outcome, regardless of your position or desire, whatever it
Speaker 1: is at the moment. So I think that's why kids
Speaker 1: like it and and and identify with Jim having to
Speaker 1: roll his eyes at Michael's ridiculous nous or the insanity
Speaker 1: that is Robert California's you know who knows what he's
Speaker 1: pulling out at the moment. Anyway, Thanks lovely podcast. It's
Speaker 1: been absolutely fantastic and huge fan um and yeah go Braves,
Speaker 1: Wow you guys. Thank you so much to all of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Zeffie, thank you, Katie av thank you Kayla Cela.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you and Tyler, Go Dodgers. But thank you
Speaker 1: for calling in and well for giving me your thoughts
Speaker 1: as to why the show is so relatable to young people.
Speaker 1: You're all, well, you're always smarter than I am. Hi, Brian,
Speaker 1: my name is Sarah Atkinson, and I'm sharing with you
Speaker 1: my answer for a question that you often asked your guests.
Speaker 1: Why do these young children really love The Office so much?
Speaker 1: What is it about it that makes them love it?
Speaker 1: And my answer is pretty simple. It's straight up indoctrination.
Speaker 1: Let me explain. I watched The Office what was airing
Speaker 1: on TV, and I was in junior high, high school,
Speaker 1: and then college. By the time it wraps, The Office
Speaker 1: just became my go to show. Much like Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1: I always have it on. It's on in the background
Speaker 1: while I worked during the day. I listened to it
Speaker 1: while I clean or while I'm out exercising. It's something
Speaker 1: that I can always depend on for a laugh and
Speaker 1: to make me feel good. That means that when I
Speaker 1: was pregnant with my children, I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: the Office, and in utero, Sty did too, so all
Speaker 1: of my babies were born knowing the theme song. They
Speaker 1: would respond they recognized it. When we would be holding
Speaker 1: him and watching the show, the theme song would play
Speaker 1: and they would perk up and they knew the song.
Speaker 1: And all those late nights and late night feedings, I
Speaker 1: would pop on the Office. Why I fed my kids?
Speaker 1: And I think that we really just from the start
Speaker 1: gave them a reason to associate the Office with comfort
Speaker 1: and peace and safety and laughter and enjoy. And now
Speaker 1: my three year old knows the Office. She announces when
Speaker 1: anyone comes over that we're watching the Office because we're
Speaker 1: always watching. And my one year old, when the theme
Speaker 1: song comes on, immediately begins to smile and dance. And
Speaker 1: they don't understand the jokes, but they know the characters.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's brainwashing. We've indoctrinated them. That's definitely why
Speaker 1: all these young kids like the Office now. And I
Speaker 1: do have one question, Brian on Peacock the home of
Speaker 1: the Office now. Uh, They've started releasing the super Fan episodes,
Speaker 1: which are longer cuts, putting in deleted scenes, and I'm
Speaker 1: curious if you've watched the Superfan episodes and if you
Speaker 1: have any thoughts some of them. The deleted scenes inform
Speaker 1: or maybe even shift storylines a little bit. And I'm
Speaker 1: curious if you have an opinion on breaking Cannon or
Speaker 1: if that's just an addition and giving us more light
Speaker 1: and insight into all of these characters. Thank you for
Speaker 1: what to do, and I'm gonna go and watch more
Speaker 1: of the office. Uh, Sarah, I love your indoctrination theory. Um,
Speaker 1: let's go with it. I love it. Uh. The in
Speaker 1: utero late night feedings that they associate with comfort and happiness,
Speaker 1: that is well, that's awesome. So then you have a
Speaker 1: really great question about the extended episodes. So look, the
Speaker 1: short answer is no, I have not gone to Peacock now.
Speaker 1: So in doing all this preparation for the podcast, for
Speaker 1: writing the book, I went back and watched everything in order.
Speaker 1: I watched the run in order and then watched uh
Speaker 1: some episodes. When I was about to talk to somebody,
Speaker 1: I would I would watch some of their sort of
Speaker 1: signature episodes again, either episodes they've written or directed, or
Speaker 1: or important acting episodes for them. So I watched it
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I have not gone back, but I
Speaker 1: have seen on the DVDs they released a lot of
Speaker 1: deleted scenes and some extended episodes. Your question about the canon, though,
Speaker 1: is where I'm going to focus because Greg Daniels had
Speaker 1: the same question as we were shooting. Does a webisode
Speaker 1: does does information that you get from a webisode? Does
Speaker 1: that become part of the cannon? Does a scene that
Speaker 1: was shot but never aired? Does that become a part
Speaker 1: of the cannon? Now, I think in some cases scenes
Speaker 1: that were shot, and I would say this is a
Speaker 1: rare exception, But in some cases a scene that were
Speaker 1: was shot maybe didn't make it because we weren't sure
Speaker 1: we wanted that information to come out about the character,
Speaker 1: or we we didn't want the character to necessarily go
Speaker 1: in that direction, or maybe it felt sort of inconsistent
Speaker 1: with the character that that had been created it, or
Speaker 1: that was going to come up in the future, Uh,
Speaker 1: something different for that character. So, um, that doesn't really
Speaker 1: answer the question. But I will tell you that there
Speaker 1: was a bible, a show bible that had the answers
Speaker 1: to all of those things up in the writer's room,
Speaker 1: and when they had a question about something, they would
Speaker 1: go back and one find out where a character may
Speaker 1: have stood on a particular issue in the past, or
Speaker 1: you know, what a character's arc or journey had been
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the show. And there were mentions
Speaker 1: as to whether or not that information had gotten actually aired.
Speaker 1: It may have been written, it may have been shot,
Speaker 1: it may have been even in the first cut, but
Speaker 1: it was impossible for me, by the way to even
Speaker 1: remember for Kevin if something had actually aired or not.
Speaker 1: So I tended to. I think Greg tended to for
Speaker 1: the most part, fall on the side of if it
Speaker 1: was shot, then it's part of the Bible. So I'd
Speaker 1: be interested though, to know if you or any others
Speaker 1: have found moments that have been added back in that
Speaker 1: now bring up inconsistencies. That would be interesting for me.
Speaker 1: Thanks Sarah Brian. My name is Maggie. I'm a high
Speaker 1: schooler and I'm from Fairport, New York. UM. The Office
Speaker 1: means so much to me. I really think it's one
Speaker 1: of the comfort shows I go to, and it got
Speaker 1: me through COVID, and I'm probably one of the biggest
Speaker 1: fans I know. I love the show. I know everything
Speaker 1: about the characters, and I just love it so much.
Speaker 1: My question for you is, when Michael leaves, he shows
Speaker 1: Kevin the poster of the chair. Do you still have
Speaker 1: that poster and if so, where did you put it? Anyways,
Speaker 1: I would love to be featured on your podcast. And
Speaker 1: I'm just such a huge, huge fan and it would
Speaker 1: make my world if I got a chance to speak
Speaker 1: with you, Maggie, thank you so much. I do have
Speaker 1: a poster, um I haven't, I will admit to you.
Speaker 1: I have a box of some memorabilia that has not
Speaker 1: actually been framed or hung on a wall as of
Speaker 1: yet that falls into that category. But I know I
Speaker 1: have it because I remember the discussion that I had
Speaker 1: when I took it, which was someone asked if I
Speaker 1: wanted a copy of the poster, and I said, no,
Speaker 1: I want that copy of the poster. And it was
Speaker 1: the poster that Steve Well, that Michael Slash Steve had
Speaker 1: had ripped in half. And they didn't want to give
Speaker 1: it to me because see, the prop people, they believe
Speaker 1: that any prop that's ever used will have to be
Speaker 1: used again. So there are warehouses. I mean maybe now
Speaker 1: they've gotten rid of it, or maybe it's in the
Speaker 1: office experience in Chicago there where any prop that was
Speaker 1: used in an episode. They thought, well, maybe we'll need
Speaker 1: it again, and so they didn't want to give it up.
Speaker 1: I convinced them, in this particular case that they could
Speaker 1: rip another one similarly enough if for some reason it
Speaker 1: ever had to make an appearance on the show. But yes,
Speaker 1: I have the chair of poster. I have the Cheryl poster.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Maggie. Hey Brian. My name is Adeline
Speaker 1: and I'm from Rochester, New York. And We're going on
Speaker 1: maybe the fourth time trying this, just because I'm terrible
Speaker 1: at recording things like this. Um, I'm twenty four and
Speaker 1: I started watching The Office um as it aired, so
Speaker 1: at the time, I was probably in fourth grade, and um,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget watching the finale. I put it off
Speaker 1: for a long time. Um. It wasn't the same year
Speaker 1: that I graduated high school, but I think it was
Speaker 1: maybe getting close to when I was going to be
Speaker 1: graduating and just a big change and knowing I'm going
Speaker 1: to go away to college, and feeling like a chapter
Speaker 1: of my life was ending, and feeling like I grew
Speaker 1: up with the Office and grew up with it by
Speaker 1: my side, and I had it there for everything, you know,
Speaker 1: and when I knew it was coming to an end,
Speaker 1: it almost felt like I was going off on my own,
Speaker 1: um and starting starting my own you know, life, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have the office to lean back
Speaker 1: on almost in a way, and you know, you are
Speaker 1: trying to answer the question, and you know, why is
Speaker 1: it so popular right now and why do people love it?
Speaker 1: And the obvious answers the fact that it's more popular
Speaker 1: now because it's more accessible on Netflix, and well, I mean,
Speaker 1: now it's not on Netflix, but it was on Netflix,
Speaker 1: and now it's on Peacock and you can watch it
Speaker 1: and you can binge it. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the real, kind of deeper answer is that it makes
Speaker 1: you feel like you're a part of something and you
Speaker 1: go to it because you know what you're gonna get,
Speaker 1: and you get that comfort, and you get that stability
Speaker 1: of feeling like it's always going to be there for you. Um,
Speaker 1: it's your support system if you need to cry, you
Speaker 1: know which episode to watch obviously, if you need a
Speaker 1: laugh and you need to feel good. But yeah, just
Speaker 1: I thank you for doing this podcast us because it
Speaker 1: allows me to continue getting that same emotional connection that
Speaker 1: I had with the show. It's just, you know, more
Speaker 1: content in a different way. And I think it speaks
Speaker 1: to me now being an adult and how I consume
Speaker 1: the content, you know differently in this different part of
Speaker 1: my life. So thank you. Um, you all mean the
Speaker 1: world to me, more than you will ever know. Well, Adeline,
Speaker 1: the third time was the charm. Thank you for your
Speaker 1: incredibly thoughtful and moving message. I appreciate your thoughts and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling me that the podcast has brought
Speaker 1: you back in a way to experience the show in
Speaker 1: a new way, in a deeper way, like it's the
Speaker 1: first time again. So thank you so much. God blessed.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, Adeline, and here's uh, here's
Speaker 1: for more in twenty twenty two. Hello, my name is
Speaker 1: Cecilia Boyle and I'm from New Jersey. I am ten
Speaker 1: years old and will probably one of the youngest kids
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Um. My favorite scene with Kevin Innitt
Speaker 1: is where he goes when Oscar comes back and after
Speaker 1: Michael kisses him, and then Kevin goes, how is your
Speaker 1: gay cation? Aw scoo And um my question to Kevin
Speaker 1: slash Brian is if you could change anything with any
Speaker 1: of Kevin's relationships with his coworkers, or even change something
Speaker 1: about Kevin's backstory, what would it be. Well, Cecilia, thank
Speaker 1: you for calling it. I think you've done it. I
Speaker 1: think you broke the record. I think ten is the youngest.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being such an articulate fan and uh,
Speaker 1: such a big fan of the show. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that I would change about Kevin's backstory?
Speaker 1: I don't know about his backstory story, but I wish
Speaker 1: that I wish that Kevin had found a little more
Speaker 1: loving and I'll just phrase it like that. I really
Speaker 1: liked those episodes, particularly the storyline around Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: uh finding Lynn. I just feel really fortunate about the
Speaker 1: moments that I was able to play where Kevin has
Speaker 1: a small victory. So I wish that for him. I
Speaker 1: don't know so much about backstory, but I wish that
Speaker 1: for him. And my hope for him now is in
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve one to two. I hope that he
Speaker 1: is behind his bar, let's call it Malone's in Scranton,
Speaker 1: and he's serving drinks, maybe having a few, and having
Speaker 1: an absolutely great night. That's what I hope. Thanks Cecilia,
Speaker 1: all right, everybody? That is that for today's call an episode? Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too cheesy, but when you
Speaker 1: work on something, really on any creative project, all you
Speaker 1: can hope is that one that people will see it
Speaker 1: and that they will respond to it. But the way
Speaker 1: that you fans have responded to the Office, I never
Speaker 1: even dreamed that that was possible. Never in in mine
Speaker 1: or any of our wildest dreams did we believe that
Speaker 1: was possible. So thank you so much for sending in
Speaker 1: your thoughts, your stories which are so moving, your comments,
Speaker 1: and of course all of your love. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: feel it, I feel the love, and I am sending
Speaker 1: it right back to you. Having an incredible week, well,
Speaker 1: have an incredible rest of the year. Really be safe
Speaker 1: out there, and hey, guess what, guys, I will see
Speaker 1: you next year in two The Office. Deep Dive is
Speaker 1: hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our
Speaker 1: executive producer Langley. Our producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia.
Speaker 1: My main man in the booth is Alec Moore. Our
Speaker 1: theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by my great friend
Speaker 1: Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by Seth o Landscape. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Hillary Clinton and I'm so excited to be back
Speaker 1: with a third season of You and Me both. When
Speaker 1: I started this podcast, we were going through some tough times,
Speaker 1: and let's face it, we still are. And here's what
Speaker 1: I know. We cannot get through this alone. So please
Speaker 1: join me for more conversations with people who will make
Speaker 1: you think, make you laugh, and help us find a
Speaker 1: path forward. This season, I'll be talking about the state
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Speaker 1: the ground. We'll draw inspiration from some amazing people like
Speaker 1: Olympic star Alison Felix and Grammy Award winner Brandy Carlisle.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into the hard stuff with writer Cheryl
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Speaker 1: join us. Listen to you and me both on the
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Speaker 1: King was shot, the all black security detail normally assigned
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